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Hello, and welcome back to the pretty passionate podcast. I'm your host, doctor Ruth. And today joining me again is my best friend, Jen, and she is very excited. Hello. Hello.
Speaker 1:I'm back.
Speaker 2:Very excited.
Speaker 1:Yeah. To discuss the reunion episode for Love is Blind season nine, aka Love is Blind Denver. And we've got not as much to unpack as I thought we might have at this point, you know, like, just certain things happening. And I'm like, oh, gosh. Wait till the reunion.
Speaker 1:Wait till the reunion. Do you feel like that? Mentally, like, felt in my head, I had such a buildup for what this reunion was gonna be.
Speaker 2:Hated it. Hated it. Not I can't even say that there was one part of it that I liked. It was absolutely a waste of time.
Speaker 1:But let's let's let's yeah. We'll we'll start at the top. Okay? I'm gonna tell you. Okay.
Speaker 1:So Nick and Nick and Vanessa, her outfit was better this time. His outfit was better this time. But they still have this way about them as reunion hosts that annoys me because they don't I'll get into some examples later, but they just I know they're not journalists, but there are some times where they just leave so much meat on the bone. You know what I mean? Where something is going on, and they don't, like, ask a probing another question.
Speaker 1:Clarify that point. Make them talk about that more. You know what I mean? Just push back a little bit. You know?
Speaker 1:They don't do that. And I just feel like it's
Speaker 2:They did. They needed Andy Cohen. They needed Andy Cohen.
Speaker 1:It was like
Speaker 2:They were dry.
Speaker 1:Thank you. And they don't ask follow-up questions, and I'm sitting there going, well, why? Why do you think that? You know what I mean? And I'm sitting here screaming at my TV, and I'm just like, nine seasons in, I think what we definitely know is that they need to have a professional, like, hosting this reunion or a super fan.
Speaker 1:Right? Someone who is really I feel like because I'm like, do y'all even watch the season? Because there's questions that, like, you just left on the table completely. Like, they're like, what do I need to know?
Speaker 2:They lacked charisma. Yeah. They they just lacked so much. And then when they were asking the questions, they were just allowing them to be like, no.
Speaker 1:No. What do you mean?
Speaker 2:Would take their
Speaker 1:full check back. Thank you. I was like, did they get paid for this appearance, or was this like, I don't know, the way they were behaving, you wouldn't think they were got paid for it. Like, every time I'd be like, well, okay. Follow-up.
Speaker 1:Follow-up. Follow-up. Give me more. And no. And I think that was, like, thing number one for why it just was a very dissatisfying reunion.
Speaker 1:Right? Actually, no. Thing number one was why the hell were they outside?
Speaker 2:No. Did you
Speaker 1:know I mean, like, they were actually outside in a park somewhere.
Speaker 2:I did notice that. I was very confused.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Breathe.
Speaker 2:There was a basketball court. I mean, what were we doing here?
Speaker 1:What? Okay. We're doing Love is Blind Denver. Why was there an LA Clippers player there? Can anyone tell me?
Speaker 2:Why was Chris Paul there, period? Why? Why was there a basketball?
Speaker 1:Was there a basketball? What was happening? I don't know. I was like, of all the things we could be discussing oh, sorry. What just happened?
Speaker 1:Hold on. Jesus.
Speaker 2:Oh. Oh, hello, cleavage.
Speaker 1:Was like, of all the things that we could be spending time on right now, why are we spending time talking about Casey and Patrick playing basketball in the damn pods? We have so much more to discuss even with just those two people. Right? Like, it just
Speaker 2:That was the least important fact of the whole
Speaker 1:Of the whole thing. Couple. And it it felt like if that and again, I'm gonna blame I mean, also, why do we waste time watching some concert at the beginning? Like, did you I don't remember. Who was that again?
Speaker 1:I'm gonna lie if I say I remember who this this artist was. Was it I can't I didn't write it down. And I've heard the song, mind you.
Speaker 2:Well, know what? Thank goodness they had an artist. Yeah. Thank goodness they had somebody to do something because they did nothing.
Speaker 1:I mean, I I've heard the song and I like the song. I just don't understand what it had to do anything with, like, what we were here to do today. Like and I was like, you guys, like, have bravo in your world. Right? You you do have Bravo TV and Peacock available.
Speaker 1:Go watch, like, any of it and see how a reunion should be done. Period. Like you said, somebody should have copied Andy Cohen's homework. Like, it was insane that this many seasons into it Mhmm. You still don't have them taking a more journalistic, curious approach to interviewing these people and getting down to the bottom of, you know, some of the stuff that would happen behind the scenes, some of the stuff they alluded to that, you know, oh, like, just it felt like I'm gonna say over the overarching principle, it felt like everybody was just being given a chance to get the world off their back.
Speaker 2:100%. It was like, I'm sorry session. Nobody wants to see an I'm sorry session. And, no, you guys are not sorry for all those things, so stop. Stop this.
Speaker 2:Stop.
Speaker 1:What you're sorry for is that you can't post on TikTok now without a thousand hate comments, Casey. I'm talking to you. Like, that's all. And what's crazy is she actually wasn't even sorry. Because when it came her turn to like, Patrick was like, Casey, I'm trying to help you out here.
Speaker 1:Just say you didn't communicate properly. I'm sorry. He's like extending you, throwing you a bone to help her, I don't know, get less hate and death threats. And she's like, don't tell me what to say. I was like,
Speaker 2:He was also doing too much for an apology that he knows she doesn't mean. So what are we doing here?
Speaker 1:So what are we doing? Who cares? I I mean, that was the only time that he pissed me off this whole time was I was like You
Speaker 2:begging for an apology. Who begs for an apology when you're not even in a couple? You already saw what happened. You know why she doesn't like you. Just forget it.
Speaker 1:Just forget it. She's obviously a jerk, and she doesn't have remorse. She you if you have to pull the remorse out of somebody, it has zero value.
Speaker 2:And he wanted the ring back so bad like it was his grandmother's ring. I don't understand that part either. Like, it wasn't And his
Speaker 1:that was actually an interesting little tidbit. I didn't know that Netflix buys the rings. Did you
Speaker 2:know that? Not until this season.
Speaker 1:Right. Until the
Speaker 2:But you know what's funny is that when you look at the sizes of the rings too, I feel like they are mirroring the income of the couple or of the man that's buying it because somebody's ring was extra large, and somebody's ring was extra small and flat.
Speaker 1:I agree. I agree. I think Ali's ring was kind of booty. Not booty. That's you know?
Speaker 1:But it was just it was not it wasn't very and then there was someone else who had,
Speaker 2:like Nick's ring was big. Did you notice that? Yeah. Then sparkle Megan's ring was not big.
Speaker 1:No. It was more modest. Interesting. Right? And I'm thinking I'm trying to think of who else.
Speaker 1:Yeah. You're right. Because and I'm thinking about past seasons too. Now some Calabria's ring was small too. And I'm, like, thinking about past rings that have been bigger and nicer.
Speaker 1:Like, way nicer.
Speaker 2:I feel like they were mirroring, like, a real life situation outside of the pods based upon the Income. Suitor. Mhmm. The suitor's income. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. They probably, like, had a jeweler come with, like, a box of, like, you know, okay. These are the the these are the rings. Right? What is the what did you what do you think she likes?
Speaker 1:And then all after style points, it's more like, okay. Well, I think the traditional thinking is supposed to be, like, three months salary or something like that. So they're like, okay. What's three months of your salary? And probably were like, okay.
Speaker 1:You could choose from these little 5,000 or that you could choose from these 20,000, you know, depending on I don't know. But yeah. Right. Yeah. But the thing is him wanting the ring back, I didn't fully understand since he didn't pay for it.
Speaker 1:But I saw something on TikTok where Marshall from, like, a few seasons ago, he was doing a dance band, like, give me my ring back so I can pawn it because it's meaningless.
Speaker 2:Well, hey. Yeah. I mean Yeah. He was like, I
Speaker 1:should be able to pawn that shit, and he was doing this dance. Like, it's like, so I can pawn it. And I was like, I can see that. Because, like, what do you because, really, what does she need it for? Except somebody wants to pawn it.
Speaker 2:Right. Unless she's gonna, yeah, probably pawn it like, this is a love is blind ring. It's gonna be worth more money because someone's gonna want that love is blind ring or something.
Speaker 1:Especially their ring and what all happened with them. Maybe she felt like maybe both of them feel like it has some kind of value that we're just not aware of beyond just the diamond and the metal. But yeah. I mean, since we're on them, we might as well, you know, just talk about them. She is a phony loser and a crazy person who I don't understand anything she said in her defense.
Speaker 1:It just was useless. I was like, so what you're saying is you are a liar and a jerk because you said one thing to the producers and then turned around and behaved like a spider monkey jumping all over him talking about She did.
Speaker 2:She surely did climb on him like she didn't wanna leave.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Oh, I know.
Speaker 2:Legs around him.
Speaker 1:Thank you. And I was like, okay. You did that, like, three times.
Speaker 2:And kissed him in the mouth.
Speaker 1:If you're
Speaker 2:not attracted to him, you don't like him. What are we doing here?
Speaker 1:Thank you. I was like, you did lie to him. You lied right to his face, and that is that is dishonorable. You should have taken your lumps right then and there and told him the truth and not had him expecting fully. He said he was fully expecting to talk to her when they got back to Denver.
Speaker 1:And she goes Right.
Speaker 2:She goes to Denver. She's like, I wasn't ready.
Speaker 1:I wasn't ready. I
Speaker 2:wasn't ready. For what?
Speaker 1:I needed some time. But then you were sure ready to bust it open dating everybody else in the cast you thought was interesting.
Speaker 2:I loved when they were just talking about who she ran through and or who ran through her. And she was like, that's not true.
Speaker 1:That's not true. Who else did you date? She was like, And, and go off sis. Like, that's what I don't like about her. I'll be like, own your stuff.
Speaker 1:Own your stuff. Be like, you know what? I thought I could be into him. I thought, you know, he was gonna be more my type, and he wasn't. So oh, well.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry if that hurt or upset people. I am a single woman, so I can date whoever I want. All this, like Fuck. Her. I think I feel like, you know, I know she's been getting a lot of hate and probably people making horrible comments, which I think is wrong and no one should ever do.
Speaker 1:But it still was so irritating for me for her to come on here and just be trying to tamp down the hate instead of, like, actually tell her truth.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it was just all whack. I think she was just delusional. She was trying to portray who she was not. It didn't work. She didn't like him.
Speaker 2:She wasn't attracted. Love was not blind for her in this situation. Just own it. It's fine.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Made it worse for herself trying to still be like a good per perceived as a good person made you a big guy. Gave it 37. Girl. She was like
Speaker 2:Thirty seven. She was like, deuces. How do I get out of here?
Speaker 1:That reveal when she was like, producers. Mm-mm. Mm-mm.
Speaker 2:She probably thought she was getting some sort of a surfer boy because of his voice and
Speaker 1:how he talked. I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 2:Yeah. She didn't think he was gonna be that ethnic. That's what it really was. What it boiled down Oh
Speaker 1:my god. I didn't even think about how his voice contributed to that because he doesn't give California vibe.
Speaker 2:And I would have never been able to get past his voice. I would have been like, this is gonna be a very boring life. I'm gonna come out of here, and it's gonna be very just Manila, and I don't want that. So no, thank you.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. I can I can see that actually now? I mean, I still don't I still think she's a a jerk. And Yeah.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. She's a whole a 100% jerk. Yeah. I can see because I was like, what was she expecting? The man told her he was a like, he was, like, Chinese and Taiwanese or something.
Speaker 1:He was very Asian. There was no white in him that he was sharing with you. Like, oh, my dad's from Switzerland and my mom is Chinese. Like, what did you have in your head besides an Asian man? So actually the
Speaker 2:boy An Asian model is what she thought an Asian model, love is blind, they usually scout on all the sites. They usually do come up with some very, very good looking men. And maybe she thought that this was going be some really chiseled jawed, maybe a little tan, you know, those types of features that were a little bit more distinct, maybe a little sharper. Maybe a little more lean. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And and some muscles and some you know?
Speaker 1:We don't we never saw his body now. He's tall. So I feel like he probably has a nice body under there.
Speaker 2:It's not giving. It's not giving. Nice try.
Speaker 1:Leave my Patrick alone. I really still I've I I like him, but I can definitely say that he I didn't like how hard he was working to get her off the hook, but I understand it because he's just a nice guy.
Speaker 2:Let me tell you why I hate her. I hate her because he specifically said what happened in his life and some of his triggers and some of the things that really upset him, and she went and just did them all.
Speaker 1:Just did it exactly Yeah. To
Speaker 2:And said things that he, you know, he's gonna see when he watches the show. And you know, it just reiterated what he was trying to avoid and she truly was the demon child.
Speaker 1:Literally the reason he came on the show.
Speaker 2:100%. Like I would have faked it just because of what he said. Yeah, there would I just would had a heart. I would have just sacrificed myself and just gone along with it. I mean, I might be wrong for doing this, but I would have just tried a little bit.
Speaker 2:I may not have been as intimate because I just don't work like that. I couldn't do it. Mhmm. But I would I would have come up with a better reason.
Speaker 1:Better reason. If you if you were my thing is, if you were so concerned with public opinion and you were so concerned with not looking like a jerk, then definitely that wasn't the right strategy to And I wouldn't even something else.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't even be concerned about myself. I just as a human Not wanting to hurt him. Exactly. Like, I would not have wanted to hurt him because of the way he looks. He's still a person.
Speaker 2:He still said the same things. You fell in love with whatever he was talking about.
Speaker 1:That's what's crazy. She didn't even give it a chance.
Speaker 2:Like, you felt you did Two seconds.
Speaker 1:Feel something for the voice and the soul you connected with. Girl, I could go on about her. She's Yeah. She's going to hell.
Speaker 2:Yeah. She's going to hell. That's
Speaker 1:it. She's just such a bad she needs to really sit down with herself and a therapist and think about, like, what are you chasing? Because there's this apparently, the guy that she had broken up with was, like, some hockey player. And so it's like, what are you chasing in this life? Because it's obviously not love and companionship with someone who cares about you.
Speaker 1:You're chasing something else, so go talk to a therapist about that. But Right.
Speaker 2:And as much as I hate them so much and I really wished, not hate them, but I hated them as a couple. But I really wished Patrick would have won the basketball game.
Speaker 1:Know. I was so irritated that she won.
Speaker 2:Exactly love.
Speaker 1:So you could just be like, can you make it worse?
Speaker 2:It just made it worse, and it made it worse that they've said, okay. She won. You need to get a ring back.
Speaker 1:And he was like, I'll think
Speaker 2:about it. Maybe back in Denver. I'm like, Patrick, throw the ring. Throw onto it. That ring had too much power.
Speaker 1:I know. It was like, my precious. That was the only funny thing Vanessa did. I mean, she was like but, like Yeah. Was Paul who asked you to interject that into the a bet into the thing.
Speaker 1:Who asked you to do that? Like, he had got the ring back. It was finished.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:I digress. What? Markle Megan. We were right around one I was like, wait. What?
Speaker 1:So she went No. She got pregnant.
Speaker 2:She fast. Oh, she was
Speaker 1:So I did some timeline because I was like, woah. What? So this show was filmed a while ago. Like, it was filmed a year and, like, some months ago.
Speaker 2:But she said it was three months?
Speaker 1:Yeah. It was a three month courtship. But I was thinking it was, like, you know, maybe only nine months ago this was filmed. You know what I'm saying? And I was just like,
Speaker 2:had just popped the baby's
Speaker 1:dress right up? How does this timeline work? And then I was like, oh, okay. But yeah. So she met this guy somehow after breaking up with
Speaker 2:Jordan partner.
Speaker 1:Being devastated, then dating Mike for a little bit, realizing he's definitely not the one. Then she finds this guy, and within three months, they're, like, living together and pregnant.
Speaker 2:Listen. Sparkle Megan was just I mean, I sprinkling glitter all over the place real quick.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I love the, you know, the baby part because I from?
Speaker 2:God. Like, what? Listen. She went from crying to saying that she would doesn't even know if she could be a mother to just Full on. Us in a while.
Speaker 1:Preg pregnant? Baby boy is here? You know what I mean? You're so stupid. Listen.
Speaker 1:I just was
Speaker 2:like Go ahead. Go off. Go off, Sparkle.
Speaker 1:Think I'm happy for her. Obviously, I love babies. So, you know, you're never gonna get me to say anything negative about that. But I do wonder if her decision to move forward with this guy so quickly was, like, reactionary a little bit. I mean, is he really, like, her one?
Speaker 1:Is it likely that she just found her one right after that?
Speaker 2:Well, don't know because the terminology partner could go either way, right? Because to me it sounds like partner is not necessarily with Yeah. That person right I mean, like she didn't say this is my boyfriend, this is my fiancee, This is anything. So I don't know if they're actually together.
Speaker 1:I think though some people, women of a certain age, don't like saying boyfriend for some reason. They think it's, like, frivolous and childish sounding. So they say my partner, which I thought, I just feel like that makes it sound stupid. So
Speaker 2:Right. So it makes it sound like, okay. You guys entered into some sort of contract.
Speaker 1:A little bit. I mean, back in the day, it used to definitely mean, like, for LGBTQ couples. Right? Like Right. They would say partner because they couldn't say, like, husband or wife because of the law.
Speaker 1:Now really uses partner because, you know, since the marriage equality act passed, You know what I mean? When people are married. But
Speaker 2:but it sounds yeah. It like a cowboy.
Speaker 1:I guess people, like, do still say my life partner, but yeah. It's just a was it's an interesting word choice, and it's not one I would use. But I I know people use it because they don't like the word boyfriend because they think it sounds real juvenile.
Speaker 2:I call my husband my boyfriend.
Speaker 1:I get you. You know? I tell my husband boyfriend? I know. I tell my husband I like my boyfriend.
Speaker 1:I I'm I'm going out with my boyfriend tonight.
Speaker 2:Right, exactly. Spice it up a bit. But you do, I am happy for her. I am happy because I actually feel like she found her purpose, right? Because the money alone was not her purpose.
Speaker 2:Everybody knows she didn't need anybody. Everybody knows that she has made, she has done very well for herself. Go ahead, sparkle Megan. Great And she did, she needed somebody that was going to meet her where she was, that was going to be able to, you know, go on those trips and do those things. But I do wonder now how she feels having a newborn and understanding that you might have to taper that down a little bit and be sedentary for a little bit.
Speaker 2:Or you think that Italy trip is really gonna be great when you have that infant on your chest? They hammered that home different.
Speaker 1:To her. They were like, so no 10AM golf. Right? Like, yeah. That's an unrealistic thing to expect someone who has a child.
Speaker 1:And I think she even kinda she capitulated on that. She was like, yeah. I was not being realistic or speaking from the perspective of someone who knows anything about what it's like to have a kid. Like, she just
Speaker 2:Well then I wonder because if she said that she loved him so much, why not revisit that if now that you've realized like, hey, that piece that really I thought was breaking us up, which I know it wasn't, there's probably more. And I think it was his inability to even meet her halfway because he acted like he was a single dad and had the child seven days a week. But I want to play devil's advocate of his disease, what if he does go into a diabetic shock? He doesn't want to be halfway across the world. You know, he probably wants to be right there and is probably fearful that he'll be out gallivanting, limiting his life while his son's alarm goes off.
Speaker 1:True. You're you you know what? I didn't even think about how the diabetes plays into that decision because I was like, he doesn't have him full time. Why can't he up and travel with Megan, you know, maybe, you know, once a month or so. You know?
Speaker 1:But, yeah, that to your point, you know, Quentin doesn't, like, want he doesn't want both of us to be out of the country together, like, away from the kids.
Speaker 2:I don't either. Yeah. I do not want to. I don't care if you gave me my dream vacation.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm not going.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I don't want to. Don't want a body of water separating me from the kids, and both of us are here. Yeah. And then we're both gone?
Speaker 2:No. Then I got orphan Annie at home.
Speaker 1:No. Yeah. He's like, no. His thing is if it's both of us, we gotta be able to drive or physically get back by overland.
Speaker 2:I did say I did that. I did that once where we did go away. And I'm not gonna tell you that it wasn't enjoyable, but it was not as enjoyable because what really brightened my day was that phone call where I could FaceTime them and things like that. Had they been there, yes, maybe we wouldn't have gone out at night time. Maybe we would have kind
Speaker 1:of You're adjusted not taking care of anyone, and you're able to go freely wherever you want. Right. But Important for vacation.
Speaker 2:Right. It is. But I could tell you, I would love to have my little monsters with me.
Speaker 1:But I feel like for her, I think maybe this guy, this, you know, Lex Luthor looking partner of hers, maybe Lex Luthor. He did. Didn't he? Mean, giving Superman villain. Like, I I think maybe that's the difference.
Speaker 1:Right? Because we didn't get to talk to him at all. Right. Like, maybe he is like, yeah. I'm super into being a dad, but I also wanna maintain this part of our lives.
Speaker 1:You know? And so Right.
Speaker 2:Or he
Speaker 1:could be the one
Speaker 2:with so much energy that he's like, yeah, let's take the kid. I got him, strap him on my back, let's go.
Speaker 1:Or let's go. They're both like, we're going to hire this nanny and they're both okay with it. Whereas maybe Jordan and her, and for understandable reasons, Jordan would never do that or something.
Speaker 2:And also, got to think about it like, also, if he goes out of the country, what if something happens to his son? He might not be The doctors that are used to dealing with this son that he's used to dealing with, they're not going to be there. It's going be very uncomfortable. You know, it's scary. What happens if the medication gets lost?
Speaker 2:Like, what are we going to do? So, you know, that's a lot. It is a lot. And I also don't think and I'm sorry everybody don't hate me, but I think that when it's not your own child and you come into the relationship and then not only do you have to deal with that piece but now you're dealing with the medical issues that you might not be fully equipped to handle, and it is a lot to ask someone whose bloodline does not run through that child. And I'm sorry, I might be playing devil's I mean, I might be the devil right now to some people, but it Yeah, is a lot for I think it's a lot for someone to come into that situation.
Speaker 2:One with someone else's child. You have to adjust to that. You don't have children of your own. There's a lot you have to learn. And they did everything so quick.
Speaker 2:You still are trying to learn him. Now you're trying to learn his, you know, his baby's mother, now the child.
Speaker 1:That's
Speaker 2:and then the sickness and how to deal with that. What if you make the wrong move when he's not home?
Speaker 1:Oh, goes to my point. I mean, I think last week where I said, I don't think that single I don't think parents should be allowed on the show. I don't think people who have kids should be allowed on the show because it's too much to take on responsibly and consider and really weigh it and then figure out if you get along with not just him, but as you're learning him or her, you also have to learn their the child's parent, then the child. Consider finding all the things you have to figure out in that short period of time is not an appropriate place to have single parents. Sorry.
Speaker 2:And on top of that, you also have to learn each other's families
Speaker 1:Correct.
Speaker 2:And brothers and sisters.
Speaker 1:On top of all of that. So it, to me, it's actually like a little crazy the idea that they would even include single parents. I don't think they
Speaker 2:I would be so angst in this situation with all of
Speaker 1:these things. Have so much. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Even when you're thinking about getting married in a traditional fashion where you have known someone for years and then you're still sitting there like, gosh, the wedding day, it's going to come, this is the rest of my life. Yeah. You still have the butterflies and the questions and all those things. So I can't even imagine Mhmm. Compounding all of those things.
Speaker 2:No. No. I would have to tap out. I'm gonna tap
Speaker 1:out early. Is meant to be a stepmom. That's why they have that evil stepmother trope because some people become step parents who should not be and they're horrible. So
Speaker 2:I think she would resent him. He already has his eyes shiny just for his son. There's no room for her for him right now.
Speaker 1:Not the level of room that she's looking for. There's a woman I'm and Jordan's a lovely guy, really, truly. I am certain that now that he's been on TV with his million dollar smile, there there is a woman out there who is just like, oh, plug me and play into this family. Like, I want in. And I I I think you'll find it.
Speaker 2:Million dolls smile. You are so gracious. I will leave that on the table. I will not. You will not take me there.
Speaker 2:No, nope. Not baiting you.
Speaker 1:You don't like his Absolutely not. Oh my gosh. I like his smile.
Speaker 2:You know what? Know what?
Speaker 1:It's charming.
Speaker 2:You have your phone? Yeah. You have your phone, right? Okay.
Speaker 1:Uh-huh. I'll show you. Smile? Your
Speaker 2:email. I'm gonna send you something. Smile. Good. Okay.
Speaker 2:Like this text that I send you and then you'll see how much. Oh my gosh. I'm just I'm just telling them.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:You'll see.
Speaker 1:Mhmm. I'll wait for it. So Oh my gosh. Wait. You're stupid not cracking your elbow.
Speaker 1:And this one? I didn't get it. Did you
Speaker 2:send it? I'm trying to send it. This is probably the lord trying to stop me.
Speaker 1:Hold on. From being mean. Okay. Even if I'm
Speaker 2:not being mean.
Speaker 1:Even if he doesn't have a million dollar smile, I feel like he's a decent looking guy was my point. He has a he's charmed. He's got his tats. Some woman out there is definitely gonna sign up hook, line, and sinker to be a stepmom to his kid and just wasn't Megan. So good for them both for figuring that out before they got to the altars, what I was saying to
Speaker 2:Mhmm. You about Mhmm. And and it it should be coming right now.
Speaker 1:Okay. Meanwhile, your thoughts on Kate and Nick and Annie Annie with the crazy hair. Her hair was a little better this time. Still look kinda dry. Her hair was a her hair was a little better for a hairdresser.
Speaker 1:I was like,
Speaker 2:Kate, first of all, Nick, I don't think he's come to the realization that he might not be playing for that team.
Speaker 1:Think so?
Speaker 2:I definitely think so. And I also think that that house in the mountains is like his mom's Airbnb.
Speaker 1:For sure. Oh, a 100% that is. That's he doesn't live there. No. There's no chance he's going.
Speaker 1:It was serial killer neat. And I know
Speaker 2:Speaking of serial killer. Oh. Did you just see
Speaker 1:me? What is this messenger, you idiot?
Speaker 2:Exactly. So there's your million dollar smile, and you leave me alone. Leave me alone.
Speaker 1:Where did you get this? Although I cannot. It's not even it's hard
Speaker 2:to see.
Speaker 1:Okay. That's a terrible picture. Oh god. No. It's no good.
Speaker 1:That alright. I just think there's something charming about him. Maybe it's the face has gotta be emotion, but Frozen like that, it doesn't look It's so I hate you.
Speaker 2:Look at that.
Speaker 1:Thank you.
Speaker 2:Hi.
Speaker 1:I was being That's
Speaker 2:coming to your bedroom.
Speaker 3:Bedroom near you.
Speaker 1:What might be attractive about him? Some. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:He's a sweetheart. I'm just being a jerk.
Speaker 1:Yeah. No. I mean
Speaker 2:He's a nice guy.
Speaker 1:He is a nice guy. And I'm just saying, you know, what might be attractive to some people, you know, because I don't know. I mean, that's a bad picture. Let's be real. The picture looks weird.
Speaker 2:But I'm just saying.
Speaker 1:As Nikki Nikki
Speaker 2:Alright. Leah, let's go back to
Speaker 1:Nick. Nick and Annie? I mean, I don't have much say about them. I I do feel like Annie, though, needs to, like He's psychologically evaluated? Yeah.
Speaker 1:To the fact that you girl, you did beg him. You were trying to get him to still marry you after he was horrifically, like, terribly uninterested. Like, embarrassing.
Speaker 2:Wasn't she Hooking up with people too afterwards? No? Or did that people
Speaker 1:Kate was. Right? I feel like there was a party that Mike had No. That everybody started, like, hooking up. And I can't I can't keep straight who all
Speaker 2:Patrick was like, I was not there. Don't ask me.
Speaker 1:Nope. Don't ask me nothing. I wasn't at Mike's party. But, yeah, I just feel like No. With Nick, I think he is you know, you may have a point.
Speaker 1:He's very religious, so it's possible that
Speaker 2:That's why I think he he doesn't wanna come out.
Speaker 1:I'm not gonna rule it out, you know, because he he does have that strong, you know, faith, and he there's something so there's something that's coming off like he's not living his true self. What we see in front of us is somehow something is missing, and I don't know what he's hiding or what he's suppressing, so I won't rule it out. How about that?
Speaker 2:He I just feel like I go back and forth with him. Right? Because I did. I want I was was rooting for him, and I didn't understand why all the other guys hated him so much. I wasn't quite sure.
Speaker 2:And I just thought maybe he was too you know, I'd say maybe he was too fake in the pods, like really talking about, you know, the money piece or what he does. I can feel like he would be boasting And a little they're like, we're just trying to hang out. Yeah. Nobody's
Speaker 1:interested in
Speaker 2:We don't care about your luxury, you know, status, your watches, all that kind of stuff. Right. Like your Rolex, we don't care. And I think that maybe that might have rubbed the guys the wrong way, but I know that he was very articulate. And I would hate to say that because he was articulate, well spoken, put together, a little bit professional all the way around, like even he didn't take it down a notch is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:So maybe everybody thinks that that's why he is fake and that he was plotting and planning. He had great answers.
Speaker 1:He was like a So major that's what I was gonna say. He almost because his answers at the reunion, honestly, I was almost like yeah. Was like, can you really still continue to hate this guy? Like
Speaker 2:Right. And he said he hated himself. Like, He hated what he saw.
Speaker 1:Yeah. He took I
Speaker 2:mean, and also, like, he's not gonna sit there and cry over you. No. He immediately knew, like, this was not gonna work. And I'm sorry. I feel like she raised a lot of red flags with the, do you love me?
Speaker 2:You don't love me? Say you love me. That's too much. I wouldn't want I wouldn't. I would've brought over that.
Speaker 2:Singer. Leave me alone.
Speaker 1:Literally uninterest I could never have I said that. I was like, he's weird and something feels off about him. However, I also don't blame him for not wanting to be with someone who was constantly like, but I'm all in. Are you all in? I'm not I'm all like, you still have four weeks left.
Speaker 1:He doesn't have to tell you he's all in in Mexico. That's crazy. And she got so mad at him for that that I knew she was like Sorta. And I was like, gosh. She was gone over him, and I was like, the desperation was there.
Speaker 1:I think she saw that back and was trying to play it off. But, like, girl, no.
Speaker 2:No man finds a desperate woman attractive. Like, that's not
Speaker 1:an attractive trait. It isn't. Bless her heart.
Speaker 2:Yeah. They I mean
Speaker 1:You know, I I mean
Speaker 2:Is she a hairstylist?
Speaker 1:That's right. She's a owner and looks like there are birds living in there.
Speaker 2:K. But owners and stylists, totally different. Right?
Speaker 1:You're right.
Speaker 2:I hope somebody else is in there doing the hair because if I saw her hair, I would just be like, I'm not coming here. I can't because you're gonna make me look like that. I couldn't tell if it was a track, a wig.
Speaker 1:It was something going on. And even on the reunion
Speaker 2:A Halloween costume.
Speaker 1:So dry. It didn't have any movement. It was just
Speaker 2:because it was probably plastic. It was not it was not a bundle, baby. It was not a bundle. Mm-mm. No bundles there, baby.
Speaker 1:Mm-mm. But you know what?
Speaker 2:O five treatment on whatever was on her head.
Speaker 1:But if you own a salon, you still shouldn't look like that even if you're not the stylist.
Speaker 2:No. Because your stylist should
Speaker 1:be able to hook it up.
Speaker 2:They should be telling you, ma'am.
Speaker 1:I mean, this was poor advertising. She had a national stage, some would say international stage, to advertise and market her business and literally dropped the ball so hard. Like, showing up looking like mommy drinks.
Speaker 2:Who done it? Who done it? She looked like she stuck her finger right in a socket.
Speaker 1:She looked like she overslept to get the kids to the bus stop. And it every time. And God bless her. Was like, imagine having that kind of exposure for your business, and that's what you show up like saying. Like, you're a dentist and you show up with your teeth with, like, just crazy looking teeth on.
Speaker 1:I don't know. It's just weird. But I know. Enough on her. Okay.
Speaker 1:Shall move on. Let's move on. Two more peep I think there's two more couples that I definitely wanna about. Calabria. Calabria.
Speaker 1:Okay. So gosh. Again, on the apology tour, I felt like they like, when she gave that I love Calabria. But when she gave that little speech trying to explain herself about, like, you know, how she feels after this whole experience, I was like I love you, baby. Baby.
Speaker 1:I really do love you. I care about you. Was just like, there was no new information being shared here about anything. And I just think, honestly, at the end of the day, Netflix owes Calibri an apology. She did not get a fair shake.
Speaker 1:She they they knew that he was she didn't get a fair shake at finding, like, a normal good guy. Like, it's not right. He's not he should not have been screened to just show. He's lovely for so many reasons, but he's not ready to be someone's husband right now.
Speaker 2:He was kissing the floor. Did we forget?
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying. How did they not catch that in the casting?
Speaker 2:Open mouth on the floor. Like, I would have been like, you set me up Netflix. He was licking and kissing the floor, and then you allowed him to come out and kiss me.
Speaker 1:My thing is this. Stop suing. They knew she was there was a social worker on there, and I feel like they set her up.
Speaker 2:Right. She was trying to fix it. She was going to fix it. That was her project, and she tried to fix those triggers that he had, and she wanted to be a good person. Yep.
Speaker 2:But I mean, there was no way that was a match.
Speaker 1:That was There was
Speaker 2:no way.
Speaker 1:And you know what? I actually went on his Instagram just like, maybe I'm wrong about it. Maybe he's just extra when the cameras are there. You know? Instagram?
Speaker 1:I did. I looked at his like, well, I don't know if it's his
Speaker 2:own name. Going to me. And now I have to go and
Speaker 1:see what bounces around, like, that jumping all over the place and rhyming stupid rhymes. And, you know, some people might find it super And I I feel like I could be his friend, but that's the thing. He's somebody who will probably live in most people's friend zone. So why Netflix put him on this show? I don't know.
Speaker 1:But more or less
Speaker 2:What is his what is his name?
Speaker 1:Edmond with an o. I don't know what he's
Speaker 2:I see him. I don't know if this is gonna take me to his page, though. Oh, Edmond Hart. Is it Edmond Harvey?
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah. That's it. Just bounces around like a rabbit on his page, and it's just very clear that
Speaker 2:He reminds me of a child.
Speaker 1:Like, I would have to take care of him. Little nerdy, like, kid. He's a skater. There's something about Edmund that you want to love and care for. But, again, husband material, no.
Speaker 1:That should have been a no from casting, period. That's And where I
Speaker 2:Oh, he's a realtor, right?
Speaker 1:Yeah. He's a realtor. And they say that they show him he's showing the houses. And and by the way, the exposure is probably great for him as a realtor.
Speaker 2:A 100%. But I love him. He's a he's a lovable person.
Speaker 1:And he has charisma and that's a lot of important characteristics to be. That's important to be a realtor, to have that magnetism, that peep, that likability. And he has that. He's just not ready to ever I mean, I don't know if he'll ever be, but he's not ready to be someone's husband now.
Speaker 2:No. He definitely reminds me of someone who needs a little bit more guidance as an adult.
Speaker 1:He will be someone's burden unless he goes deep with the work that he has to do.
Speaker 2:I just think that he really when she was drilling him about a protector and what she needed, he was like, security. He was like, no. Like, he has his hands on me. She was like he was like, mm-mm. No.
Speaker 1:I'm not gonna fight anyone.
Speaker 2:Not me. Check, please. Not me, baby girl.
Speaker 1:She's literally I looking at her will I will get I I didn't and you know what? I was like, I understand some men are not gonna always throw fists, like, right away. So I was, like, waiting for him to just say, I will step between you.
Speaker 2:Can you scream high pitch? Yo. He was about to blow a whistle. What's the things that you you get when you're, like, out on the street as a girl and then He had a whistle in his pocket.
Speaker 1:I thought I was, like, waiting for him to be like, well, I would step between you two and not let him put his hands on you.
Speaker 2:Like, nothing. Or say something to him in a more, I would say, aggressive fashion or just a deeper voice maybe.
Speaker 1:Maybe the guy doesn't see him. And, yeah, either way. I I mean, was clear they were not a match, but I I I think in the in the days that have passed since our last conversation, I actually started and I saw his Instagram. I actually started to get mad at Netflix for casting him at all. I was like, this was a trap for the social worker that they set, and it's not right.
Speaker 1:They knew she was gonna do this.
Speaker 2:Right. Yeah. That's yeah. Yeah. She she needs to come back next season.
Speaker 2:Like And get the return.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. I definitely think so. And okay. So with so with Calabria, she got her chance to apol.
Speaker 1:I feel like, you know, she got her chance to apologize for calling him the b word and kinda going outside of her character in that way, which
Speaker 2:Was her character. Get out of here.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And I was like, I mean, you were mad. I don't think we need to make that much of a federal case out of it. Like, I don't think it's right to call him the b word. That you can apologize for, but I just feel like she fell on her sword a little too hard for me.
Speaker 1:And that this is the devil of social media when it comes to these reality people. I almost wish they would film the reunion before people have had a chance to react to them. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2:Right. Yeah. Because now they're trying to, they're being very reactive to the comments. They're not being reactive to their true feelings. Like, hey, when I get mad, I might say certain things that I don't mean.
Speaker 1:Correct.
Speaker 2:I hate you. All sorts of things get said when you're angry. Like, I mean, even kids say things that they don't mean. I hate you, mommy. I wish you would just leave.
Speaker 2:Well, Macaulay Culkin, I wish you would all just disappear. Like, we get it. People say things. But granted, did he deserve to be treated like that? Absolutely not.
Speaker 2:Especially, you know, because he was not an aggressor. He's not that aggressive personality that I feel like he really brought it out of her No. Like that. But again, she was saying that he does certain things off camera.
Speaker 1:That's the only thing that I still don't feel like I got resolution on with them.
Speaker 2:Because we didn't see anything.
Speaker 1:What was hap and it annoyed me because I was like, so you mean to tell me, all this filming, the producers never caught anything? Never caught Mike, nothing? And then no one else on the cast could corroborate this? It was annoying to me that Right. You know?
Speaker 1:And then Nick and Nick push harder on it either. Like
Speaker 2:No. I think I feel like off camera, what is he gonna do? He's gonna like do the internal and cry and maybe like slap his head. That's what I see him doing. Like he's not the person that is going to get in your face and start saying things or yelling and screaming because he just told you he doesn't have it in him.
Speaker 2:Now the tantrum, absolutely, he's gonna throw a tantrum.
Speaker 1:Yeah. We saw that I know that they left it as resolved as it's gonna get, but it just felt like there was such a an absence of depth in terms of the hosts just probing a little further. And, like, are you really ready for do you think you're ready for marriage, Edmund? Do you you know what I mean? Like but it is
Speaker 2:They probably didn't want to push him because one, maybe he didn't have the capacity to really answer those questions because as we saw, the capacity that were that Calabria was looking for wasn't there. Yeah. You know, he wants to run high knees and roller skate. Like he's not there with the whole, yes, I want to have kids, I want to have a family, I want to do all these things. But I think mentally he's not mature enough to be in a spot to lead a family from my opinion.
Speaker 2:I want him to show a little bit more of leading himself because the moment that you cry because you're not getting any in the bed with me is the moment that I would have left. I would have left. That alone would have been it.
Speaker 1:Security, please. I'm You living my can get me another room or him another room.
Speaker 2:Right, because like, okay. My time of month, like, he's gonna cry for seven days, and both of us can't be crying. Okay?
Speaker 1:Yes. Like
Speaker 2:because I'm already gonna be crying in my emotional on those seven days where I'm angry. Leave me alone. It was
Speaker 1:it was it was as resolved as it's gonna get, I think, is where actually, I feel like that Yeah. That was a repeating theme with all these couples. Like, I think we were like it does like, Ali and Anton. I didn't get any resolution there at all. I was like, okay.
Speaker 1:So Ali,
Speaker 2:you're about them almost.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I was like, Ali, you you have no soul. You literally went by the word of a woman you just met as to whether he's a good guy or not.
Speaker 2:Over going to a strip club when he's single.
Speaker 1:When he's a single man.
Speaker 2:She's not gonna find anybody who has not been to a strip club as a single man at that age. I'm sorry. Did they not have bachelor parties or you know?
Speaker 1:No. But I'll tell you what. Here's what I think. In the back of my head, when that was going on, I was like, what is this? Like, the man is single.
Speaker 1:Who cares? And I said, was she using that as an excuse? Because really it boiled down to money. He didn't have enough money for her.
Speaker 2:She used that as an excuse. She used the drinking as an excuse. She was building this case and just defaming him, and he was like, you guys have never even seen me drunk. Like, what are we talking about?
Speaker 1:Literally, we've never seen the man slur his word, be real blotchy in the face, or look inebriated. And, yeah, maybe that means he holds his liquor really well. But, yeah, I don't think we she gave us enough there to side with her on the drinking thing. And then Right. Her friend is what was really damning for me with the money.
Speaker 2:What a jerk. She's a jerk. Then Was it donkey of the day? Who does that? That's Charlemagne.
Speaker 2:Charlemagne, the god.
Speaker 1:Donkey of the day.
Speaker 2:Give it to her. Here, hon. What?
Speaker 1:Your friend to me, I think any chance Ali might have had of denying that she broke up with him because of money, this friend destroyed. Because the company you keep, sister You know what I'm saying? Like, if I had you and Samurai at my bachelor party and we were talking about my like, I don't feel like you guys would be like, well, girl, does he have enough money for you? Because that's a broke person's job. Like, no.
Speaker 1:This is how you guys talk when no one is around. Your friend forgot that there was a camera, and she, you know, let y'all's true character slip out.
Speaker 2:And they and, you know, when they were talked about it, she's divorced unhappy. Both
Speaker 1:of Yeah.
Speaker 2:Divorced And and also, but we know what the real deal breaker was, remember? It was his feet. They did not have to do him dirty like Oh
Speaker 1:my gosh. And then afterwards, they rolled the footage of his feet and the way he walks. He does have, like, a, you know, walk like this. A lot of men walk like that, by the way. Well, I
Speaker 2:mean, especially in flip flops.
Speaker 1:Yes. And I was like, okay. Hilarious that they played those that footage of his feet. And I was like Did
Speaker 2:they say the cricket sounds? Like, when she was just staring at
Speaker 1:sitting there looking at his feet. But I was like, okay. Shots fired. But I was like, Ali, they were on a tropical vacation. Of course, he's gonna have on sandals.
Speaker 1:So you can't crucify the man for wearing sandals
Speaker 2:on the beat. For my feet. Poor guy. Like, you know what? You just gave me these feet.
Speaker 2:What is he supposed to do
Speaker 1:about it? And I didn't think they were that horrible. I hate all feet that are not
Speaker 2:horrible. See anything. She's definitely not gonna wanna date a basketball player or a girl
Speaker 1:athlete because woo. Baby girl. Feet are gnarly sometimes. I love LeBron, but I
Speaker 2:bet you his feet look like some who done it? Yes. Something
Speaker 1:like long crunched overtoes. Listen. Yeah. At the end of the day, you know, feet that don't belong to babies are disgusting. I hate feet.
Speaker 1:No matter how you slice it. Feet that belong to people over 10 years old are absolutely horrific. And so Gosh. Ew. You know?
Speaker 1:Like, after they lose after the feet lose that, like, baby pudge, they're just not Oh,
Speaker 2:I know.
Speaker 1:Then we we're not to discuss them anymore.
Speaker 2:Feet are unscathed. And now they're like, mm-mm. Once your feet have met the world, It's
Speaker 1:a deadbeat. So I felt like that was BS on her part because I was like, girl, did you really were you really checking this grown man to make sure he had beautiful feet? No. That was a deciding factor for you? Like, what a loser.
Speaker 1:I don't know. It just didn't I didn't like her whole demeanor on the show. It was very like, I'm that girl. I deserve better than him. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And when they asked him if he was dating someone, his girl was right there, and I was happy for him that that was the case. I I think she still expected him to still be pining over her. I think she was shocked that he has a girl already or something. I think you caught her off guard. Don't
Speaker 2:know if she was shocked in a good or bad way or if she expected him to, like, fawn over her, but it was clear that she did not want anything to do with him. So it's not like she wanted him back.
Speaker 1:No. But she's got she's that type of self absorbed where she wants you know, she would probably enjoy the idea that he's, like, heartbroken and pining over her.
Speaker 2:Oh, 100%. Like, she was the prettiest girl that he's ever seen, and he had a chance and had a shot, and now that she's gone
Speaker 1:Like boo hoo.
Speaker 2:Boo hoo. You're never going find anyone as great as myself. And I think that she was really shallow, really superficial. The company that she keeps, she needs to get rid of it because it's going to take her down, and she can be miserable with the rest of them. Miserable with money is not a good thing.
Speaker 1:Like, I mean, you know, not these people don't know the difference. But, yeah, I think I was like, his lifestyle like, going to a strip club with your friend is not a lifestyle. Like, it's just
Speaker 3:No. You have to, like, spend the
Speaker 2:$50,000 at the strip club and, like or never came home nights or
Speaker 1:Right. You know, any of Like, those maybe during that that what was it? Two weeks at home or whatever that, like, he was gone multiple multiple nights and then come to find out from the friend's girlfriend that, oh, he was at the strip club. That's what she made it seem like. Yeah.
Speaker 1:That and that girl is probably not even around.
Speaker 2:I loved his point about he really played her. Like, he what is it, clock it. He clocked her too because he was like, you really took advice from someone who moved in with a guy after what, a few weeks? Yeah. Yes.
Speaker 2:And obviously, he was she was still with the guy that also was doing the same thing, so it couldn't have been that bad.
Speaker 1:Putting the lie to what she's saying is the fact that she's here with him and talking about they're a happy couple. Right. So you want me to break up with everybody?
Speaker 2:It was shady. It was so shady that the moment that she walked away with this girl, she doesn't know that she decided to just go ahead and Say that stuff. Spew all this information out to somebody.
Speaker 1:Like why not say it at the table where he can defend himself? You know?
Speaker 2:Right. Absolutely. And as she's talking about him, sweetheart, you're still all also talking about the boyfriend that you
Speaker 1:live with. That you're still with. Like, she it was very, like 100%. It it did not give girls girl. It just gave Messi.
Speaker 2:And Which lends to the fact that Ali is not that intelligent to sit there and listen to that and not be able to decipher real from fake.
Speaker 1:Well, And she is. I think that's what I'm saying. That's why I think retrospect, initially, I was like, was she really, like, affected by what this one random girl said? No. In retrospect, I think that she was like, I can use this as a very convenient excuse to break up with him because I don't wanna She really did hone in on that.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And I'm like, you would never even witness anything. Like and why would he tell you in the pods, oh, and by the way, I went to the strip clubs when I was single. Do you care?
Speaker 1:If it was a big part of his life, it would have come up in the pods, I think.
Speaker 2:A 100%. And I think it would have come up when they were living together that he actually was at the strip club. And, you know, I couldn't understand why she was so worried about who came to the house. He was in the house?
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah. That is his best. I didn't understand that. Good friends. Like I I didn't I couldn't tell if she was being controlling or if she was trying to catch him lying about who drank the beers.
Speaker 2:Right. Yeah. I think it
Speaker 1:was And he kinda hedged and he was like, oh, no. He was downstairs. I brought the beers to him downstairs, which I was like, so your friend came, and you took the beers out of the fridge and went downstairs to drink with him in the lobby of your apartment rather than
Speaker 2:the apartment complex? Like, that's weird.
Speaker 1:Right. So
Speaker 2:Unless his friend didn't wanna be on the camera and the cameras were in the apartment, and then maybe they were
Speaker 1:Oh, maybe so. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Trying to talk about something. Who knows?
Speaker 1:Yeah. Maybe so.
Speaker 2:Either way, she's whack.
Speaker 1:She's whack, though, and she'll get what she's looking for. Her and Casey can form a superficial girls dating club, and they'll, land the millionaires they're looking for who won't care about their feelings, and that'll be the end of that.
Speaker 2:Exactly. She'll be just arm candy. And
Speaker 1:Yeah. That's if that's what you're going for, babe, good. Because don't come on a show like love is blind. Like, it's just what are we doing?
Speaker 2:Right. Right.
Speaker 1:And maybe it's just people who are just not self aware enough to know, like, actually, no, I am that shallow, and I really only care about how comfortable this man can help me become.
Speaker 2:Right. Exactly. I I really think she wanted a meal ticket. She wanted someone to pay her way through, you know, school. Then she was gonna get pregnant, and then she was going to pretend like she was planning on having this career, but now she gets to be a mother and stay at home.
Speaker 2:And she'll be one of those that puts the kid in daycare and goes out with her girlfriends and get their nails done and just burns the husband money while he works himself to death.
Speaker 1:Yeah, everybody sounds like they're going to be like super happy in that situation.
Speaker 2:Right, no. She'll be with her friends who are miserable, and she'll be miserable and they'll all be miserable little wenches altogether.
Speaker 1:And then when they yeah. Then they can compare alimony checks.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:But yeah, that's why it was kind of like just a not it pissed me off because in the beginning for, like, the first six the first episode drop that they did, I was like, oh, they're on fire. They're on fire. They got some good solid couples. Like, we're about to see some good stuff.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And I can't believe walking away from this reunion. We had no no one married, and everyone just showed up to this reunion to apologize and make themselves look better and get the Internet off their back.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It was like a whiny
Speaker 1:And let me explain.
Speaker 2:Let me explain. They were all just turned into politicians. I was like, stop.
Speaker 1:Thank you. They all had these almost like this rehearsed demeanor of like, okay. Let me deliver my lines.
Speaker 2:Right. I hate myself. I hated seeing myself like that.
Speaker 1:Calabria even pulled a speech out of her.
Speaker 2:She said, I can't remember anything. My memory is bad. Smoking. Girl,
Speaker 1:you should not be
Speaker 2:This was it was Denver.
Speaker 1:She she can't remember anything because she's in that droop. Listen. I I mean, maybe so, but I was just like
Speaker 2:She talks very calm all the time.
Speaker 1:She does have a demeanor that, like, yeah, is very calm.
Speaker 2:Sounds like she's sedated.
Speaker 1:She's very calm. But I thought that was the social worker thing where she just sits there and is like, tell me more.
Speaker 2:Until she tweaked out on that rock. I thought Edna was gonna push her off that rock.
Speaker 1:When I tell you, I was like, girl, don't you don't talk step sideways to a man sitting on the edge of tomorrow. Like, he could just They were like, cut. Listen. If this dude don't Sparta kick her off that cliff because when he walked away Yo. When he walked away, was like, I would be like looking behind me.
Speaker 1:Listen, before I said it, I
Speaker 2:would have got up. I would've said it. Thank you.
Speaker 1:Walking away from a cliff. That's why I feel like
Speaker 2:And I'd set it behind the cameraman.
Speaker 1:He was getting so mad. I was like, that dude's gonna come up to her and be like, this is Sparta. Dunk.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I thought he was gonna do one of those start breathing heavy then start hitting his head and growling. Yeah. I thought that was gonna happen. I thought that was gonna be the time.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Gonna great. Come out. Who he really is. Mhmm.
Speaker 1:You know, I'm sure he's lumbly, but yeah. I'm sure there's a there's a trigger button in there. And yeah. Woah. I can't think of that.
Speaker 1:Hits it.
Speaker 2:Yeah. That trigger button might be serial killer status.
Speaker 1:It's worrisome because he seems to deal with everything on such a, like, a more superficial level. The only thing that I will give him credit or that I will acknowledge that he said that felt a little deeper, but still, it was when they went to, like, piece it up in their hugging. And he was, like, basically, like, you know, I'm grateful for this experience, like, because I know that in the real world, there's no way I will ever get someone like her.
Speaker 2:I know. That was sad.
Speaker 1:I know. That hurt me so bad. I was like, oh, Edmund, you see But Kim. I like true though. Listen.
Speaker 1:Yeah. It's true. It is true
Speaker 2:because true.
Speaker 1:She gives kinda like Atlanta baddie somehow in Colorado. Yeah. And she got a
Speaker 2:body on her too? Like, that can't body can't be wasted on little Edmunds' high water pants.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And I was like, yeah. You're right. You probably would not ever land this woman in real life. No.
Speaker 1:He cannot handle her. So what he has to understand is his fame is gonna change things a little. It's gonna it's gonna How? Because some people change girls.
Speaker 2:He licked the floor, Ruth. He licked the floor. Because some people cried when he was not going to be able to get any.
Speaker 1:Because some people just wanna be famous. So they'll just date him now while he's still got that smoke. You know
Speaker 2:what I'm saying? Isn't fair.
Speaker 3:No. I feel like there's definitely women out there.
Speaker 1:I couldn't, girl. I'm talking about but there are women out there who would, like, date him for clout right now because he's still a topic of discussion. He's still someone people are aware of in this world.
Speaker 2:I feel like he can't give anybody clout though. Like what, you got clout because you dated the dude that licked the floor and that we know is not truly mature enough to handle life right now.
Speaker 1:It's the it's the exposure. You know? He's got whatever, $50 50,000 followers on Instagram. You know what I'm saying? It's like that exposure that I think there is some exposure hungry person who will just play with toy with him for a little might toy with him for a little while.
Speaker 2:10,000 of them are teachers of America. What? 10,000 followers.
Speaker 1:Like, said. They love him. They love him. Like,
Speaker 2:He's so sweet. Like, I guarantee you, I would follow him to be his friend because I feel like he's see? It's like a project. I feel like he would be someone that I would want to help and give him a makeover
Speaker 1:But he doesn't give him whole he doesn't bunch want a makeover. Stuff. But He likes his style.
Speaker 2:No. That's the problem. That's a number.
Speaker 1:I don't think he believes he needs any sort of kind of makeover. I think he thinks his style is primo.
Speaker 2:Okay. Yeah. And that's like saying, I believe that I shouldn't lose weight, but that's not true. K? Things are just not true.
Speaker 1:They're just not true. There are things that are simply not true. His style is I honestly could deal with the style more if you took the pick away.
Speaker 2:I think I could deal with the style more yeah. That pick has to go. And I think that I think he could get a better shape up haircut even if he was wanting to keep that, you know, retro box. Yeah. I feel like it could be a little bit more well kept.
Speaker 1:Keep in mind, my dude is in Denver, Colorado getting his haircut.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's true. There are but there are ethnic barbers in Denver.
Speaker 1:Okay. There's Hello? Ethnic barbers, and then there's a black barbershop.
Speaker 2:There's gotta be one.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of Hopefully, finds it. No. I'm just saying, like, to me, there's there's people who are like, oh, I'm comfortable cutting ethnic hair. And then there's, like, a black barbershop.
Speaker 2:Right. Who's gonna tighten it all the way up, get it right, and tell him what you need to do to this hair because you got some sharp edges up top, Yeah. Brother.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Bless him. Bless your Edmund.
Speaker 2:Well, Edmund.
Speaker 1:Well, that was it. That was that was a dumpster fire of a outdoor picnic basketball hoop.
Speaker 2:Was Brandon there? Brandon wasn't there, was he?
Speaker 1:No. Brandon didn't come Brandon wasn't there. Mike? I wanted Mike to come. I wanted Mike And Anna didn't show up.
Speaker 2:Boo, Anna. Anna quit on us. I'm not gonna be
Speaker 1:I would have loved for Mike to be there because of that party that became such a topic of discussion that happened at his house. It would have been nice to hear his perspective on it.
Speaker 2:That's probably why he didn't show up.
Speaker 1:No. You know why I think he didn't show up? Because I saw on TikTok that supposedly people are saying he has, like, a record of not play paying his employees. And also some controversy over you know how he was talking about he does biohacking and he does all this stuff for him? Like, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1:And he he has these these spiritual, like, groups or something that he's a part of, and people are call saying that he's in a cult.
Speaker 2:Oh, oh, that's deep.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I was like I mean, there are those men cults where they go on, like, those weird retreats and they, like, you know, get naked and, like, dance around in a circle on the beach and affirm their manhood.
Speaker 2:Can I go? Wait. Wait a second.
Speaker 1:You'd be in the middle of the circle? Like, what? I mean, they might need some sort of supervision.
Speaker 2:What are we talking about here?
Speaker 1:Yeah. You never heard of these things? I forget what they're
Speaker 2:I remember this from Housewives of or movie that this was in.
Speaker 1:Housewives of New Jersey, Louie, Teresa's husband, if you watch that, was like, there was footage of him doing something similar. Like so it's like a thing where these guys go on these, oh, we're gonna teach you how to we're gonna rejuvenate your male energy and teach
Speaker 2:you how to do that. And you have to be you have to, like, fish and hunt and
Speaker 1:do all these things. Sit around fireplaces and talk about their feelings and stuff. Yeah. It's like and how they wanna be a better man. You know?
Speaker 1:So I think I thought it was something like that, but some of this posts, actually a few posts were like, no, he's in a cult.
Speaker 2:Right. And they have to reconnect it with nature and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And I guess it could veer off of that into give us all your money. I don't know.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:Well, that'd be interesting to find out what cult he's in.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna do some deeper digging and figure out if he is in a cult because I actually have a small obsession with cults.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I'm trying to think if there's anybody else. Yeah. No. Mike didn't show up.
Speaker 2:Anna didn't show up. I feel like Anna didn't show up because she already said everything that she's had to say.
Speaker 1:She was like, I saw the writing on the wall. This was whack. By episode three, I was like, deuces.
Speaker 2:Right. And she was also like, you don't love me, and then you're proposing to someone else and then telling me that I'm the one. Because there's a lot of men who have just tapped out of a situation like that where they're like, no. I found the one. So if my one is leaving, I'm leaving too.
Speaker 1:Like Blake, which is why everybody loves Blake.
Speaker 2:Yes. Oh, Blake. I remember Blake.
Speaker 1:Because I think Anna was his one his number one, and then she left and he bounced.
Speaker 2:Right. Right.
Speaker 1:I get it. I go back and forth on this. Like, they are there to date each other and stuff, but I think when you start throwing around, like, Nick love bombing people the minute you meet them throwing around, oh, you could be the one. You could be the one. I think that's where it becomes like, alright.
Speaker 1:What is wrong with you? Like
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:You cannot have these three people all on completely equal footing. There has to be someone rising to the top. And there is a hierarchy. And maybe you're not ready to admit that for whatever reason, but, like, yeah, the idea that you just hold these three people in equal regard and you could be happy with any of them is, like I think that's a producer thing, I'm gonna
Speaker 2:say. Maybe he wants sister wives.
Speaker 1:Nick?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Maybe that's what he wants. Maybe he wants more than one wife.
Speaker 1:I don't know. He could be a king. We
Speaker 2:don't know.
Speaker 1:I'm my jury is out on him. He he definitely gave good answers that made him more seem more empathetic and at least reflective. But
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:There's something still off about him. Well, did you look
Speaker 2:up, Nick? Mm-mm. Neither did I.
Speaker 1:Boring. I just No. I mean But I'm bummed. Alright. Well, I think we covered all the highlights, all the high points, to be honest with you.
Speaker 1:I don't think there
Speaker 2:was mean, there were no high points.
Speaker 1:As there were no highlights. As in there was literally nothing that was like, woah. So amazing. And then they bring Blake out at the very end to pass out drinks. And I was like
Speaker 2:Wait. They weren't were they drinks? I thought they it was, like, soft serve ice cream.
Speaker 1:Or it was like Yeah. The ice cream to celebrate.
Speaker 2:Chicken chicken flavored ice cream.
Speaker 1:Yes. I was like,
Speaker 2:bro. Not chicken flavored ice cream.
Speaker 1:Yeah. It would wasn't chicken flavored ice cream, but it would they were talking about Jordan's chicken smoothie.
Speaker 2:So ridiculous. I don't understand why he doesn't understand that he can just eat the chicken. He could just eat the chicken and drink the water.
Speaker 1:Or he could better yet eat the chicken and drink the crystal light. Wash it down with some crystal light.
Speaker 2:It's Right.
Speaker 1:Literally the same thing, but only, you know, less disgusting.
Speaker 2:That was
Speaker 1:just It was like, the chicken is cooked, guys. I was like, is that what you think people's issue is? Right. No.
Speaker 2:We're just confused that you didn't just make the chicken like something,
Speaker 1:I don't know A meal?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Or if you were gonna do that, I mean, make it baby food or something.
Speaker 1:I think he's basically, his point is he blends this up and he can take it with him.
Speaker 2:Don't. Just don't.
Speaker 1:I don't
Speaker 2:Don't take that anywhere.
Speaker 1:Even if you could blend chicken up and tell me that that's something I should eat and you mix it with, like, I don't know, broccoli and something else delicious, the crystallite has thrown me so far off the scent. I I don't understand it. It's sweet. Like Stop. You got strawberry lemonade chicken.
Speaker 1:Like, what are we doing?
Speaker 2:Ew. Ew. The kind
Speaker 1:of flavors that Crystal Light was. You know what mean? It lemonade flavors. There was no chicken
Speaker 2:Green tea.
Speaker 1:Yeah. There was no chicken bouillon flavored crystal Chicken bouillon.
Speaker 2:It is so disgusting.
Speaker 1:Oh gosh.
Speaker 2:Wait. But that's just disgusting.
Speaker 1:Yeah. That's what Jordan brought.
Speaker 2:Now I guarantee you, you do you know how many people have tried that just to see what the
Speaker 1:I'm taste sure if we check, Instagram or TikTok TikTok. Yeah. I'm sure on TikTok somebody has been like
Speaker 2:It's a challenge now. It is definitely somebody's challenge. Right? See if you can drink that.
Speaker 1:Not me. No.
Speaker 2:Thank you. And it I'm it feels like that mixture after he drinks that, that his breath is just gonna be kicking. Ugh. I feel like he's gonna have pasty mouth. Those two things together is just gonna make his breath smell like dragon.
Speaker 2:Dragon. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Rinse it out with a lot of water. You know? Blistering. Alright, girl. Well, that lap that wraps up this reunion episode.
Speaker 1:I mean, honestly, I don't know. I I'm I'm gonna rinse this off with something good to watch because it was like like I said, it started it was like the show went like Right. You know? So I I know
Speaker 2:want they that time back. I want that time back in my life.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I if I'm being honest, like, you know, it was we picked it apart, but that's because I thought this reunion really sucked and what they could have done better. Just yeah. They just chose not to learn a single lesson from reunions past. And I'm I mean, season ten is supposed to be coming out soon.
Speaker 1:I I I think it's Austin they're going to. Austin's
Speaker 2:Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah. We'll see.
Speaker 2:Well
Speaker 1:The way this ended, I don't have yeah. But it's crazy because, like, the way this one ended, I don't have, like, the same anticipation that I used to have when they, like, announced even, like, a not great season with, like, couples I didn't fall in love with. I still didn't feel this disappointed at the reunion because there was so much to talk about that did not get discussed here.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I feel like it it can only go up from here. It can only go up.
Speaker 1:It must. And I think I I'm gonna, like I was like, I hope that Netflix understands the better thing to do is to film the reunion right after, not too long after the wedding. This waiting a long time for it to air and then people see everyone's reaction and I don't know.
Speaker 2:A mess. I know. A year and a half, that's a really long time. I would have forgot everything that happened.
Speaker 1:That's a long time for people to live with people's reactions to them, you know, and the fallout that may have occurred so that they come on being like total politicians, and it ruins the whole thing.
Speaker 2:Definitely. So boring. We could have skipped it. We could When have skipped
Speaker 1:season ten comes on, you're on my top list for guests. We'll bring you back and, you know, pick your brain about that.
Speaker 2:Thank you, darling.
Speaker 1:Of course. Thank you for joining us. Was fun. I know, right? Fun to It tear these people was so much fun.
Speaker 2:Can't wait for someone to criticize me.
Speaker 1:I know. It's great. I mean, that's really have you made it if someone is not kinda trying to pick you apart online? I think the
Speaker 2:Internet No. We've already been here. Right? We've been here. Please.
Speaker 1:Please. High school. Exactly. It's before the Internet. Okay?
Speaker 2:Right. Exactly. All we had was actually face to face torment. People picking you apart in your face. In your face.
Speaker 2:Real MVPs right here.
Speaker 1:Well, I will talk to you soon. Probably tomorrow. Talk to
Speaker 2:you later.
Speaker 1:I know.
Speaker 2:Just countdown. Bye.