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Welcome to Her Health Code, the podcast that helps women in midlife feel better in their bodies without the confusion or overwhelm. We’re two health coaches sharing real talk, personal stories, and our best coaching tips that help you reconnect with your body’s wisdom. Think of us as your health-savvy girlfriends, here to help you crack the code to feeling vibrant and strong again.
Jessica Franklin (00:00.748)
Welcome to Her Health Code. Thank you for joining us. We are so excited to have you here with us. We are women health coaches helping other women in midlife get through, their healthiest selves in their most vital selves. I am Michelle. I'm a certified health coach. I'm also a licensed esthetician and a certified yoga instructor. So I have been in the health and wellness arena for gosh, over 25 years, Jess, and I just love talking all things health.
I'm also a 50 year old woman going through the toughest time of my life and I have a lot to share. I want to help other women feel their best in their mind, their body, their bellies, and then have glowing skin while they do it. What could be better? I'm Jess and I too am a health coach and we have very similar backgrounds. I also have been certified in yoga for about 25 years, maybe a little bit more. And I have
certification as well in therapeutic application of yoga, breath work, meditation, and I'm certified in detox. So I'm also a detox specialist and I bring all that together to help women in this time of life, this perimenopause crazy time that we're in as moms, help women navigate their health and find what works for them to feel good in their bodies, their minds, their spirits, and
Also their hearts and just it's so important to feel good emotionally so that we can show up for our families, our work in our communities in the best way possible. Absolutely. Yes. And we are here together to bring not only our excitement and joy of health and healing and everything about health and healing to people who we know could absolutely benefit from our work.
from our experiences, from the trials and errors, but we're also friends that have had these conversations together for over six years now. We met on the baseball field when our sons were in second grade. Talking about snacks. Talking about those terrible Terrible snacks, right? Ingredients. my god. Who thinks it's okay to give kids donuts after a baseball game? mean, ridiculous. And I think at the heart of the matter
Jessica Franklin (02:24.44)
that nobody really thinks it's okay to do that, but we feel like kind of pressured and like, if that mom brought donuts, I better bring it on, some cupcakes. Make sure you got enough sugar in that treat. Make sure we've got that Gatorade going as well to top it all off. And so I think that we felt comfortable to make these comments to each other because I saw you bring a healthy snack and I was like, whew.
There is someone else here who is on the page and not afraid to be the outlier. Which I generally before that there's three years or maybe four years prior to that that I was the outlier mom who brought you know the apple slices and the orange and water. And it's weird that you're looked at terribly when you do that. Not only by other moms because you know it's crazy that other moms are looking at you.
like that for bringing apple slices. But really, let's be real, it's the other kids. Yeah, the other kids for some reason. Kids that, you know, they're expecting donuts and cookies and Oreos and Cheetos and all these other things. And it's just crazy. I really feel like what we need to do, Jess, and what we've talked about for years is really changing that dynamic, changing that environment. So it makes it easy for moms to just grab a
Grab a bag of oranges. Bring some orange slices to the game. Like no need to stress about what to bring or how, you know, comparing it to other moms, like sugary treats, but let's just keep it simple. Yeah. And I think that we're here to change the narrative. Absolutely. Amongst moms who are in this time of life and feel that pressure a little bit from their kids, from, you know, just kind of socially, what do I do? I don't want to be that kind of
You know, outlier who brings a healthy snack. Like let's change the conversation in a way where people are wanting it. of, know, we do want it secretly, but we're afraid to do it. Right? Like let's, we want it. Let's talk about it. Let's become brave enough to have that conversation amongst the other moms on our team at the beginning of the season. And I think today is a perfect day to start talking about.
Jessica Franklin (04:48.942)
this with our favorite topic, is food and ingredients. today's first episode is all about food. yes, we are going to specifically the ingredients. Yes. foods that are considered fun and convenient. Yes. And loved by kids everywhere. It has never been so confusing. Even for people like us that are immersed in nutrition and all things health. It is just the most confusing environment.
to try to navigate. And so today we are going to try to make that a little bit simpler for you so you can navigate in an easier way. And then hopefully maybe save some money too. Yeah, or at least break even. Right. You know, it might not be a less expensive endeavor to make your own and to have organic ingredients or whatnot, but at least we can kind of help you figure out how to best navigate breaking even at the
you know, at the very least so that it's not gonna be an extra expense because we know that that becomes a burden as well when food becomes, you know, like a sacrifice of something else that you enjoy having in life. So we want to demystify the ingredient list so that we can start having healthier snacks and healthier foods on our table.
And specifically, I want to address what's happening right now, because right now I think people are very aware that ingredients in boxes and things that are pre-made, so processed foods, anything that's in a box or has a label, an ingredient label on it, is considered a processed food. And that's a buzzword right now, processed food. And what do we do about all these ingredients? And navigating it becomes a...
a second job really. We've done it. We've literally done it. Yeah, but I personally think it's much easier to avoid them all together. I mean, I'm not saying I don't have a lot of treats because let me just tell you, I like treats. fact, sweets are my favorite. And in fact, Jess, I brought you a homemade treat because you know, I like dessert. So I actually made this homemade dark chocolate bark. It has goji berries and pumpkin seeds and walnuts and raisins, hemp seeds.
Jessica Franklin (07:07.246)
all the good stuff. And it literally took me three minutes to make. I... it's beautiful. Yeah. And it's beautiful. So it's beautiful. It's delicious. Your kids love it. I personally find it really, really stressful and difficult to go into the grocery store and just look at these labels. In fact, I brought an example because I will tell you, I live by the 80-20 rule. So when I show you this, my teenage boy, my son that's in college actually still loves these Trader Joe's granola bars.
But let me just tell you, the ingredient list is quite lengthy. And one of the ingredients, know, are, you know, there are things that I can't do you not love on there? You know, there's sodium bicarbonate, there's soylactanin, there's all kinds of like terrible seed oils like sunflower oil, canola oil, and- And things you can't even pronounce. Things I can't even pronounce. From Trader list is really long and Trader Joe's is actually supposedly a healthy grocery store, right? Right, mean, so healthier.
I'm not saying don't buy these things. goes in with the 80-20 rule. Like you're gonna buy that from Trader Joe's. It's better than the other options. It's better than the ones, say, at the regular grocery store. But I would still put this in my 20. For sure. This is still in a 20. And then this is the replacement. And then, yeah, this bark, this beautiful bark, would be my replacement for those granola bars. And you know what? I don't believe in...
looking at the calories anyways because I think it's more and it's so much more important to get that nutrition in your body, your kid's body, in your family's body, far more than counting anybody's calories. Right, yeah, and that used to be the topic at the top of people's minds was looking at not the ingredient label but looking at the calories and the fat and the saturated fat and we could, we're gonna probably need to have a different episode on that. don't even get me talking, I grew up.
80s. Yep. When I mean, free, was the thing. And let me just tell you, I ended up so sick. They had these talk about processed foods. They had Wow, Doritos. that comment below. Because if you me just tell you that
Jessica Franklin (09:18.478)
the most disgusting product on the market, but because it was fat free, I thought I could overindulge. What happens when you overindulge those things? Bad things happen, right? I mean, and I think on the back of the bag, it actually even says may cause anal leakage.
And I'm sure that we weren't reading the fine print when those things came out in our 20s, right? We were just like ooh fat-free that is healthy. Yes, that was our healthy Yeah back then was fat-free when I I mean because we grew up on packaged foods, right? We grew up on the convenient. I mean I my family did cook Protein and then our vegetables oftentimes came out of a can if yeah It was not seasoned to get it out of my grandfather did have an
Beautiful garden and we did you know enjoy garden fresh food when it was in season Yeah, but when it wasn't it was out of a can out of a can out of a can yeah veggies out of a can yeah and a lot of convenience like hamburger Yes, at least once a week. Oh totally yes Yes, and rice aroni. I mean the cereal treat yeah
Can't have regular rice. Right? Exactly. need to have these flavor packets. Which are filled with things that we might not consider to be healthy. Yeah, and I just think people get into these bad habits.
And really that's what it is. It's a habit. We grew up with those bad habits And we had to retrain our brains and our minds and our taste bud right training That's another episode right you can do it. You can do it. You can train yourself I will not talk about that today, right? You can train yourself. Yes, you can yes Yes, that is a huge topic and we need to put that down as like the next episode for sure because we could go on and on and
Jessica Franklin (11:08.206)
the process of doing that for ourselves and for our children for sure. But yeah, it's just like we have to kind of re-look at food from a perspective that is different than what we grew up on because it feels comfortable and it feels like what it's right to do and it feels healthy because it's rice, right?
And so, and it's a vegetable, but it's out of a can, so I don't know. You know, it's like, how do we get away from what we're, what feels good and cozy and right and convenient at the same time, saving us time and energy and get into a new perspective? I think it's really not learning how to have a PhD in ingredients. No, gosh, I can't even understand. would you spend in the grocery store? I've done it.
an hour or two hours in the grocery store, especially if you have a child with you. I have to say I probably have done that a few times. Who has that kind of time to in the grocery stores? Nobody, right? It becomes too stressful when you're trying to be an ingredient detective and then we're spending time reading books to learn all those ingredients or doing a course or bringing lists with us or now there's apps which that's a newer thing.
And that came out around this time where I feel like I was pretty solid on like knowing exactly what I'm going to buy and what I'm not going to buy as far as ingredients are concerned if it's in a box. But the Yucca app was something that came out and my son was like, ooh, let's try this. A friend's mom is using it for her groceries. And so I said, OK, let's put the on and go around the grocery store, give it a try.
You know, right, we were not at Sprouts or Trader Joe's. We were at a regular grocery store and I was like, go for it. Go do the box of cereal you just asked me for. And now you'll know why. And it was red. And so that's, it's fun. It's fun for a minute. It's fun to try but you know. occupies the kids for a minute. Yeah, but it's so time consuming. I really think my thought is to get women to...
Jessica Franklin (13:20.108)
because of course, you it is on you ladies, right? We are the keepers of our kitchen. You know, we basically are, you know, we are the ones that put these foods into our family's mouth. And so I personally think what really got me out of my rut is really to find some creativity, to have some fun in the kitchen. And really fun. Yeah. And not stressful and not put the stress on it. And so let's just take an example like
Rice-a-roni because I will tell you I have served my kids rice-a-roni because they actually like it. But there are a couple ways to do rice-a-roni different. The first being you could give them rice-a-roni. It's not gonna kill them. Right. It's filled with sodium so it's not gonna make them feel that great. The second way is to half and half. Do half rice-a-roni, half regular rice or half brown rice. The third way is to take the flavorings.
whether it be the chicken flavoring or the beef flavoring and try to recreate it with just homemade rice made in a rice cooker and be creative. And it actually is pretty simple. It comes down to bone broth or chicken broth and some parsley seasoning and some, you know, and some maybe onion powder and garlic powder. And you can create the rice-a-roni feeling that kids are getting from that rice they like. So I really think if...
we could get moms and show moms how to be more creative in the kitchen, I think they'd again, re-learn how to have fun again with food. Yes, because it has to be fun. It has to be fun. And maybe it's not even something that happens every day. Yeah. Right? It could be once a week with one item. That's how I started. For sure, I was not ready to do it all at once. Yeah. So the way that I did it, because I realized that stressing about
every ingredient and trying to make everything homemade all at one time when I didn't have solid ingredients, plans and systems for all of that. was overwhelming in the grocery store to like know all the ingredients to get. was overwhelming planning for the grocery store to, you know, have all the recipes and write down all the things that I needed. So it was like, I needed to take a breath and take a step back and be like, okay, stress isn't good either. I can't do this out of fear. I have to do it.
Jessica Franklin (15:36.084)
out of a place of just wanting to enjoy the changes that I wanted to make that week. So I started with one thing and then another and another and some weeks it was just like, I'll do what I know. I don't have time for something new this week. Maybe not even this month, I'll do what I know. Yeah, have like three recipes that literally you don't even have to think about. You literally put them together and they're made super, super easy. For me, I actually...
gave up recipes and I started literally because I have two teenage boys. have an 18 year old and a 15 year old that eat a lot. And so I gave up recipes and it was the best thing I ever did because now what I do Jess is I literally cook a couple proteins a week and I cook some starches whether sweet potatoes or potatoes or some rice. And then I have a ton of vegetables accessible and ready to eat. And that's pretty much how I feed my kids. in order to make it
really yummy for them, I create sauces or buy sauces or dips and that's what creates their wrap, their bowl, their plate of their food, whether it be lunch, breakfast or dinner. mean, it really comes down to what works for you and what works for your family and it doesn't have to be so complicated. No, it doesn't have to be complicated at all and on that note, going back to ingredients and like...
What do we do? There's not just one ingredient. It's not just, you know, the top of what's on people's minds right now. think the hot topic is red dye. Yes. Right? Red dye. So it's not just red dye though. That's the problem is like, okay, we're all talking about how horrible and terrible red dye is. it's, unfortunately, it's in so many foods that our kids are asking for because the box is attractive or their friends had it at school. It is not just red dye though. So
Okay, when they take red dye out of food or they ban it or something a year from now, right? Yeah. What then? There's so many others. So many other ingredients, parabens, all the things that are keeping your food fresh in that box. Not good. You all the preservatives. So it's really about how do we avoid those ingredient lists and all the stress and overwhelm when it comes to that. And I think that I'm going to say it.
Jessica Franklin (17:58.604)
And it might be kind of controversial. Tell me Jess. little controversial to say this, but come on now. Give me a break. you, you in order to actually make a change in what's happening with our health that is directly related to these ingredients in these boxed foods, we would have to, we really just have to stop buying them all. I agree. Because they're not going to ban all of these ingredients any day soon.
Right? So we really need to take ownership of just having enough awareness and talking about it amongst our friends, even though it might not be a popular subject. But to really talk about like, hey, it's not just the red dye. There's so many other things. We need to just start going back to the whole foods and create our menus based on real food. Here we are. We've been there, done that.
Decoded all of the you know simplified it in a way that works for us right where you have your system and we're here to share those simple simple systems that we've come up with and Help you get rid of all the trial and error and headaches Yeah, come with it because it can be frustrating it can be time-consuming to also have to figure it all out So we're just gonna bring you episode after episode that talks about not only what you can do in your home to like
you know, change whatever you're putting on the table and into your kids lunchbox or bringing as a snack to the baseball or the soccer field if it's your week, but also to talk about all of the polarizing, you know, opinions out there about health and about what's good to eat and you should avoid and, there, because there's completely, complete opposite. Yeah.
Discussions happening out there. confusion right now. So we also want to have those conversations to help clear the way and help make it easy for you to make choices that are going to work for your own health and your own family's health and schedule and budget. We really sympathize with you mamas out there because it is a really confusing time. So comment below if there's a specific meal or food that you want.
Jessica Franklin (20:20.046)
with and we will absolutely help you decode that. That is what we're here for. That's what we created this channel for is to truly help women out with all things health. So let us know if you have something that you're struggling with when it in regards to food or a meal or a snack or something. But I just know that if we continue trying to make this more fun, I know that you're going to get on board with this.
And really think and simple. Fun and simple. Because it can't be stressful. Can't be stressful. But I really think it starts with you women because, you know, if we're not doing it, the rest of our family is just gonna eat whatever we put in front of them. I mean, that's the truth of it. That's the truth. And I hate that, you know, it really sucks that all the pressure is on us. But that is life. it's life and...
And we can do it. We have the power to do it. we're here to help you create your own code that's going to work for your health because it's different for everyone. There's no one size fits all. And there's no specific right way or wrong way. No. There's lots of different variations. And we're here to help you figure out what's best for you. In fact, let's talk about cereal because that is one thing that I want to say is the
hardest meal for me. Yeah. And I know that everybody, lots of moms struggle with breakfast. of moms are struggling with this because of time. breakfast food becomes so crazy with just variety too, right? So cereal is the easy go-to time, energy. It's like, okay, cereal is happening today because I don't have time to make something else. And so for me, that is something that I have struggled back and forth with.
And I've had no cereal in the cabinet and just made breakfast every day, breakfast every day, make it, make it, make it. And then I'm like, okay, no, I got to try to make my own cereal. So I tried to make a granola because that was the main thing that my husband and my son would go to is granola, whether it's for cereal, to eat it as cereal or to go with a snack, yes. Or with a parfait with yogurt. And so I tried it. It failed. They did not like it.
Jessica Franklin (22:36.014)
ingredients I think I just failed on technique yeah and the other day when I came over you had shared with me yours yes I after a walk you made me a little parfait and I was like these are the same ingredients Michelle that I used in mine what is your secret so this is my homemade granola I've been making this for gosh like three four years now and my kids don't even call it granola they call it cereal they're like mom do you have more cereal and I literally make this
every single week and we go through this whole jar. So in my granola we have all things, nuts, seeds, oats, cinnamon, vanilla, mean really, really basic ingredients but there is a secret to this granola, to getting the clumps, which I had to share with Jess the other day. I didn't know. the clumps for kids are very important. Yes, so. Has to have the same texture It's all in the details, right has to have the same texture. So here is the secret, I'm gonna give it to you ladies.
You have to really press your granola down on your parchment paper, on your baking sheet. And after it cooks, you do not touch it. You leave it, let it cool to room temperature, at least 45 minutes, completely cool. Then you can break it up and put it in your jar. That's where I failed. I know, I know. I was in a hurry. But now I got you. I got you, girl. I And now your family has...
healthy homemade granola to enjoy. And this literally takes me five minutes. I made it last night because my kid was just like, mom, need cereal in the morning at 930 at night. And I was like, okay. It literally took me 15 minutes and that includes the cook time. So it is so fast. It is such great ingredients and it didn't cost me a ton of money. I mean, these ingredients, you can make many, many batches. And so this is...
my little health trick for the morning and to make my mornings quick and easy and no decision making because who wants decision fatigue fatigue in the morning? I mean, not me. It's It's so real. And I want to say that let's decode these ingredients because in a way that can be done on a budget because oats are so cheap. Oats are so cheap. So cheap. You can get them organic oats. Right? You can get them in bulk then at the grocery store if they have it available.
Jessica Franklin (24:50.478)
which is what I like to do because I love avoiding plastic. That's kind of my passion is learning how to avoid plastic at all possible, you know, times if it's available. But how healthy oats are. Healthy for you is also top of mind always, So healthy for your skin, healthy for your gut because it's got lots of fiber and you know, it does have some protein in it too and not a ton, but
It does. It's got a lot of nutrients and oats and it's just good for our overall wellness. And then you have people out there on the other side of the camp, Michelle, saying, my God, I would never do oats. Stay away from oats at all costs. And I feel like, again, that's completely polarizing. We've decided they're healthy. And here's how I make them into something healthy. Yes, oats by themselves. If you just put it in water on the stove.
to make yourself some oatmeal in the morning with nothing else or maybe like people might throw in some you know sugar, brown sugar or maybe some maple syrup or something to sweeten it up if they don't like it just plain but here's the thing yes that is going to spike your glucose it's not our friend especially at our age right? but here we go let's add in the things that are going to keep our blood sugar stable and the extra proteins that are going and fats
that are going to be fulfilling for us and good for us, right? So those pumpkin seeds. Pumpkin seeds, walnuts. There you go, the walnuts. The hemp seeds. The hemp seeds. With omegas as well. omegas, exactly. They add in your fiber, your protein, your good fats. Omegas, right? They're so good for you. And we also have some goji berries, which are great for your skin, your antioxidants. you're getting some goji berries in there.
We got some sea salt sprinkled on there. salt, so you have some minerals in there. Yes, as well some minerals and then I want to also say that the maple syrup has to be in there because you have to tighten it up. You have to tighten it up and it has to be a little sweet. Yeah, it has to be a little sweet. So maple syrup, I'm not hating that. Yeah, right. And the oil is coconut. Coconut oil, which is good for your gut. It is good for your gut. It is also a good fat. Yeah, and there's controversy.
Jessica Franklin (27:06.553)
controversy about that too. There are different opinions, different sides. We've done enough research to feel that for ourselves and our own opinions, it is not a bad fact. But I will tell you the difference between granola, homemade granola and cereal is my kid does not, well used to and passed because I don't buy it anymore, but
could not get full on cereal. He would have three, four bowls and he still wouldn't feel satisfied. Where if he has one bowl of granola, he feels great and he feels full and satiated and it's because of all those amazing healthy fats. Right, and fibers and proteins that are added to that Yeah. Right? And so you can also make your oatmeal on the stove with these ingredients. You can. Because that is actually how I use those exact ingredients.
on the stove to make hot once a week. But if I could make this and keep it clumpy, then it would be so amazing as well, because it's like a new meal. It's like a different meal. And you can add on the stove, I will say, that I like to add in some apples and some cinnamon. Obviously, you've got cinnamon there, but I do throw in the cinnamon in my pot as well when I'm making the hot oatmeal. And so there's your ingredient edit.
decoding all of these different nutrients that you can find in the ingredients that Michelle has in her granola. And I will say that, you know, what I've been doing for cereal, because I failed at my attempt.
So I found the healthiest cereal I could find because let's just be real that cereal is a good go-to snack after school, snack before bed when it's like 930 and my son is like, I'm hungry again. And I really don't want to go back to the kitchen to find or make something to put together for him. And it is a good, you know, go-to breakfast on those mornings where it's like, got to get out the door. I'm running a little late. So I found a cereal that I don't hate.
Jessica Franklin (29:11.689)
And it's, I like Cascadian Farms brand. I buy the, I buy this one that is hearty morning fiber. And it is 30 grams of whole grain and it has 11 grams of fiber and six grams of protein. So when paired with a grass fed whole milk, and I don't cheap out on that one, I do buy the expensive.
all the things A2, grass-fed, pasture-raised, because all of those good fats and nutrients are in that milk and it adds, you know, in its whole milk, it adds another eight grams of protein and the good fats for the brain that needs to think at school all day. So it becomes a decent breakfast or snack after school or before bed. So I also like that they have an environmental component with
one of the grains that they use. So one of the grains that they use is kind of a newer grain on the market. What is it? Honestly, this is my menopause moment. I cannot remember the name of this grain, but it is very sustainably grown. It doesn't need a lot of water. And I will put this in the description when we post it so that you know. But yeah, I just like that component to it as well because I always like to also find things that are sustainable and
friendly for the environment and Mother Nature who's giving these beautiful ingredients to us to nourish our bodies. think that's also very important. So I always just try to find the good in something like, okay, it's in a box, it's processed, it has minimal ingredients, doesn't have any seed oils, doesn't have crazy amounts of sugar in it, and it's also doing something good for Mother Nature even though it's in a plastic bag. So what we would like you to do, because this is all about
helping you figure out what works for you is try a healthy homemade granola and try cereal for your family, for yourself, and then see how your gut feels, see how your energy feels, see how your satisfaction is. Here's your health coaching tip, Michelle. That's my health coaching tip. I want you to pay attention, like try both, try both on your kids, on yourself, and then really kind of pay attention to how
Jessica Franklin (31:23.791)
how you're feeling, how your kids are feeling. Ask them after they eat. Did you have enough? Did you feel satisfied? Because that is really important. so play the health detective at home and let us know how it worked. Let us know which one you like better, whether it be a healthy store-bought box cereal like Cascadian Farms, like Jess suggested, or a healthy homemade granola.
You try, you let us know. And we will have to give these recipes. Absolutely. I'll post them down in the show notes. So if, if you want to try out my specific recipe, but just remember my key tip, let it cool completely because then you'll get your chunks. is the important factor. is the key, the key part in all of it. So, and my coaching tip for everyone today is just don't stress. Yes. 80 20 rule.
have to have grace with yourself because stress is an energy that is also not ideal for our health. is terrible. Yeah, and if we're feeling stressed it's because of either we're worried or we're feeling maybe fearful. And those are super low frequency energies and emotions that are also feeding our cells because our cells do...
feed off of our emotions. that is coming from my yoga meditation background here. And so that's my little coaching tip for you is just have grace with yourself. Don't stress, have fun and don't sweat it. Just keep it simple. I love it. And do the best you can today. Tomorrow's a new day. But make sure if you have any questions for us, list them down in the comments below and we will try to get to each and every comment because that is what we're here for. We're here to help you.
So we are so excited that you joined us today. Thank you for joining us. And we will be back with more episodes to follow in the future. So thank you again. And those of you who are listening on a podcast, I know that there are comments to make, but there are, there is a way to contact us either through YouTube. So you can find this video on YouTube or you can leave us a five star or a review and a five star.
Jessica Franklin (33:39.556)
Leave us a review. Leave us review. It doesn't have to be five stars. Yeah, you can leave us a review. Give us however many stars you think that we deserve. Yes. Hopefully it's five. Yes. And leave a review. And in that review, it could be like, you know, one thing that you liked about the show or that you want to say about the show to help people understand why you liked it and how it was useful and helpful to you. But also you can include your questions there if you're a podcast listener. So again,
Like Michelle said, thank you so much. We appreciate you. We're so grateful for you. Thank you for joining us and being part of this community of moms who are mindful of our health and our family's health. And we just want to do better and we are in midlife. So we want to have as little stress as possible because we are not able to manage all of that.
Yes. know craziness anymore. Yes. And we will be getting into all things midlife such as HRT, menopause, craziness, all the symptoms of menopause in future episodes. So just wait. Yes. And this is not just a podcast about food, although we will be dropping episodes about food very regularly, but we will be talking all things health related and especially things that are very popular right now that are out there with polarizing opinions.
So we thank you again for being here and we'll see you on the next episode. All right, see you soon.