(Shakyra) Hey, girl Shakyra Mabone
(Jada) Jada Vasser
(Anthony) And Anthony Brinson and this is all shades of chocolate where we bring
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(All three) black culture to MSU
(Anthony) almost approaching our one year anniversary. Crazy to think about like crazy. Again, I've told them many times off camera but I wouldn't be in this position without you two. So I want to say thank you both as Shakyra pat her head over there crazy these locks but I wouldn't have this opportunity without them. So I want to continue telling you guys thank you and it's crazy to even think about this pretty much been my year anniversary even though ours is the 26th you mentioned. So to everybody it has gotten us to this point. I mean, we've won an award in less than a year. We've built a fan base and we've had an impact on his newsroom and I will continue to hope that we have had that impact we have people like DeMonte who's in here and your office Hi students affairs reporter to him incredible job by the way like soon as he got here he has a positive impact that I'm very impressed by so but we go hopefully we go home awesome, very talented individual but we're here for and then this episode will be a little late. Thank you Michigan weather. Again, I Shakyra scratching the hair again. I'm about to take this wig off I'm sorry. But um, we're here for MLK Day and obviously thanks to the whether you noticed episodes a bit later than we would have published or want it to be published. It's going to be published like a week after we planned it too. But I mean, what can we really say like obviously we got this episode we got to talk but Professor Broman and shadow him great guy by the way, Jada he had an extra credit assignment that he gave and I'm like you know what, let me take this extra credit let me see if I'm gonna do I'm probably not gonna do it for and it was I ended up doing it because it was like described pretty much what MLK Day means to you. And I started off by saying like what all can we say like we could talk about a lot I can give you guys the floor to kind of start off because we was talking about Selma a movie that I unfortunately did not see but we go we'll get to it or I'm gonna get to that would have been great if we actually had please don't start Oh my god. But yeah, I'll let them start off about ourselves. And they were playing the John Legend song that hopefully don't get US copyright if they do actually. But mattify to actually go sing
(Jada and Shakyra start singing, lol)
(Anthony) but yeah, I guess I can start off by asking What does MLK Day mean to you guys?
(Shakyra) Reverend King, Jr. Okay. Preach My man. Reverend. He done a Macula job for the black community. You know. Don't be cute. But seriously, what Dr. Martin Luther King Day mean to me. I mean, he's just got us to a point where we are today without him. We wouldn't be here, you know? No, for real? Yeah.
(Jada) Yeah, I feel like MLK Day is definitely a day like remembrance. And I feel like that's what a lot of people are trying to make it now, which is a good thing. Because I feel like MLK Day was kind of the day everybody's like, Oh, we don't gotta go to class, or we don't gotta go to work. But it means like, if you know your history, and like you like pay attention, and you do the bigger research, it means so much more. So to me now, especially with all like, the protests that go on during the day, the marches the remembering part, like, don't forget, that's kind of what it means to me. It's just a day to remember and like embark on the chapter of where we were at then and where we're at now, because he said, there's a his dream now. Yeah, we live in his dream. He didn't say it is. It might not be spot perfect. But he did say to see his dream, and we hear. So what's the next dream? type stuff?
(Anthony) Thank you for saying stuff. Oh, my. Just can't beat em. But you know. Yeah, like I said, in the extra credit assignment I referred to, quite literally, we wouldn't be here without him. And I was telling him in that paper, like I, you probably wouldn't be getting this paper for me because think about it, we go to or I go to a predominately white institution. So if you don't have the steps MLK took to give us a voice. I wouldn't be in this position to be at this institution. You want to get this paper, etc, etc. Hey, he possibly may not even be teaching at a school like this. Because to think about the fact that we have a black professor of black students at a predominantly white institution MLK, it'd be proud, really. He would probably be disappointed in the fact that we still have a long ways to go but as it always gets mentioned, the journey doesn't stop and we always look at He moving forward
(Shakyra) Can I don't I'm just glad that he was one of the many, many people during the Civil Rights Movement to like, actually step up and do the work, as we just talked about, you know, you have to talk about the issue and things like that. And that's what I'm so grateful for, for, you know, very of Dr. King and things like that. So, yeah, it's just that we are the new generation now. And we gotta continue to, you know, put in the work and efforts, you know, basically, keep living his dream, you know, keep making it better, and things like that. So
(Anthony) And what's impactful? Is that, like you said, like, We're the new generation, and we have the opportunity to take those things that he started and set that foundation and still keep pushing for learning for ourselves and our rights and for our voice. And even though like I mentioned, Selma is not a movie that I own. Unfortunately, I haven't watched it. My friend Martin, I wasn't I was. I was one that they mentioned, they played every single minute. Oh, my gosh, and I bring it up to x. How did it feel learning about MLK day in school, especially as the older you got?
(Jada) Learning about it in school? Like when I was younger? Of course, you know, you can't really give like a youngin all the details. Yeah. So my school kind of did this thing where like, every Black History Month, we had to pick like a different person, and like, be them and like a show sort of kinda, but it was like an interactive way to get us to learn and like want to learn. So you have to do all this research. We have to write a script, and then we had to be that person. Is this high school and middle school, middle school, okay, farm, remember? Oh, yeah, middle school, middle school, yeah, to get us more involved. And it will be like a big show, like in the cafeteria that everybody will watch. And everybody will just be a different character. So that was cool. High School, I probably would have been more interested. I feel like high school taught us a little bit more, but they still tried to shun away from a lot of the details, more specifically details about like, just how really hard it was to stand up for what he believed in, and how back then the physical backlash she got, because of course, we will watch videos, we watch documentaries, but I feel like someone will ask the question what Okay, what did they exactly do to him? And then they were like, well, you know, he went through a lot of abuse. But people were like, Well, what was the abuse? Like, we want to get to the specifics. So I feel like if we would have went more in depth like that, instead of saying on more of a surface level, it kind of could have made MLK more like human earlier for me. And of course, now with me being older, and being a college, they go into it now, because they claim we're old enough, we're not gonna do my own research. But I feel like if kids or if it was put back then, especially for black kids, it kind of could have, it could have gave more impact to them. And I sure would have made a lot of more black kids care, just here and like, someone who persevered through the impossible, because to me, he went through the impossible and still came out. Standard 10 toes down, like yeah, my people gonna be free. Whether you like it or night, and women in jail, abused in the street, police brutality, some stuff that we still see to this day. I just wonder why we couldn't talk about it then. And it was even still a thing then. Because if we saw it out and open, why can we talk about MLK going through it? Or at least the history because it's still history? You know, you feel like if they did that part, it could have made it more not inclusive, but just more real. Yeah, made of a person
(Anthony) because one of the unfortunate parts about really learning Black history is they only go surface level. Yeah, and you even get nowadays where there are some states or some places that want to remove that like teaching or trying to tell about like how, for example, slavery benefited both sides quote unquote, and when it gets so muddied, or things thrown on a kind of lose sight at the main objective, or the main goal when talking about this, and crazy enough, literally and metaphorically is black and white. Like it's very simple what certain things happen and how Yeah, certain things took place as Chris shows our food and the back thank you so much Chris eliminated Chris out of Detroit with me
(Shakyra) but can I add on, this is why it's so important for us to fight to keep our you know, D I, you know, programs in schools because, as you know, they tried to take away our history, you know, by banning books and stuff like that. And it's like, one of the things on my notes. Oh, yeah. And it's like, it's It's bad enough that the younger generation under us don't really, you know, read and it's just like, we need to keep educating them and give them the whole story. Not some BS, you know, fairy tales. So, yeah
(Anthony) And um, I had a question about just losing my train of thought, but could you expound more upon on Oh, that's my question what? Di for all the time may not understand what that means or meet design?
(Shakyra) is diversity? equity inclusion? Is that like a closed period? Well, no, it's um, basically it's like a program. You It's okay. It's okay. But it's basically like a program for you know, we're us to be safe and nice workspace school, you know that source and things like that. Oh, yeah, basically. That's pretty dope. Um, do you think you could expound upon more about the Banned Books thing? Yeah, that was one of my notes. Well, I haven't read so much about it. Like on it. I just seemed like, you know, Twitter discussions and stuff like that and a couple of articles. But yeah, I guess it's a bill correct me if I'm wrong. I see the monta you know, look, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's a bill that's like being passed in Florida right now. That's trying to like bam, history books and stuff like that, like, mind you this been a thing but like, they tried to, like be more, you know
(Anthony) Oh, does that directly correlate to what I said about them? Trying not to, like Teach slavery? Yeah, okay. Yeah, that's why I brought it up. So yeah, it's insane. I mean, this I gotta get one gotta get political. But, again, I said to my dad, because it was, um, they were talking about it when I was at home one time and I'm like, You know what, okay, let's give you all that. Let's give us the benefits that we have from slavery. It's the ratio of benefits and hardship is not going to same. So let's talk about all the benefits is say, Hey, what's up? corrector? Oh, so Demonte just handed me his computer if I could turn to Shakyra. Shout out to my teammates. Love.
(Shakyra) Yep. Yeah. Critical Race Theory. That's what it is. Do y'all know what Critical Race Theory is
(Anthony) supposed to be taught in school? I know
(Shakyra) exactly. See, that's the problem. Critical is Yeah, so it's just a big mess. But that's why I said us, the new generation, we gotta keep striving to teach our young guns and you know, people who's not aware and young, we got young Ginsburg. My youngest sibling was born and literally like in 2019. So youngins
(Anthony) I was watching the NBA video. And it was a guy shout out DOM to KS NBA YouTuber he was reacting to older video is that was made in 2018, I started counting like, three or six years or so it's just crazy to think about, like where we were, and where we are now. And that perfectly segues to one of the other things I had in my notes just even if we joke about it, or even we mentioned it like Martin Luther King, his dream was this was his vision and us being in this position at a predominately white newsroom, predominately white institution to have a podcast like all shades of chocolate. So I want to ask you guys whether it was while you were younger or currently going to a PWI or were your dreams are the things you I want to free ourselves going into your life at each stage or whatever stage they
(Shakyra) To be financially free. Yeah, but no, seriously, like my dream was to have, you know, upstand a career you know, the whole American dream, I guess. And just be a better person for myself, you know? Yeah, just due to things that my grandparents great grandparents didn't get to do really? So great answer.
(Anthony) Dr. Vasser?
(Jada) Yeah, definitely financed as a financial stability man, especially in my ripe age of 20 but to be 21 financial stability these bills a no joke no joke now
(Anthony) to our actual youngins like stay young as long as you can Yeah, I did not bill I keeps I always tell people I was one of those people that did not believe when it was like oh I appreciate these years because they go by fast is taking so slow into the you know, junior high school junior and crazy and what are you doing Jada? I ain't wanna to cut you off?
(Jada) Oh no Yeah, no, that was one and then I my goals depend on like different areas of my life they vary so like right now or when I was younger, I just had to go to you know stick through with school finish it as much as possible get my degree and just really like do stuff that I like like I told myself for coming to college don't take a class that you know you're not gonna like nice and wasted money so I very intentional when I pick my class especially now with my new minor being a document production minor. Yes, thank you good except I didn't know you had to apply a whole nother thing but yeah, I just told my so you know stay intentional but now my goals will be to finish school because I'm too far to lose it I'm start the hunt to just getting like all my portfolio stuff together. Get everything have done together. And I've literally learned about dumb but I have like little goals like I want to go I want my Siberian Husky. I want not cuz I don't consider them like up there like get the degree get a dog
(Anthony) Oreo right?
(Jada) then the like little stuff like that like in a dog house hunt early because that market is crazy
(Shakyra) yeah I just can't wait my market
(Jada) keep my credit together because that credit report
(All three hosts) we are not that oh keep your credit together I remember those one the only economical parts in high school they did say like or at least my parents like don't take no credit card so you so that's why me saying the same thing but I'm like you need a homie that you want to show because you need credit for a car you need it for house art man asked like non college apartment. Yeah, specific score. So it's don't overuse it, but you need it to build the good credit.
(Anthony) So definitely what was your dream? Dr. Besser? Shakyra on that? So? Because I'm like my credit card. Yeah, I know. It sounds scary. But you got to room Yeah. But to answer your question my dreams, I got a few of them. So I've always or not always, for the longest time I can remember one of my biggest dreams was to make sure to be a voice for the voiceless. If people hear this, what I'm called back to the diversity rep. Campaign, me and Jay did it together. That was one of the things I said and it's one of the things I felt for a minute is just being the voice for the voiceless being able to be that beacon of hope and be able to just be a positive person in the world because I experienced things like bullying and went through depression at a young age and felt as though I didn't have those voices even when I was around people. So I would never want people to feel that at least for me if I interact with people often want to at least have that impact on them in that way. And then another morsel personal even more personal random dream of mine. I really I don't know when I started feeling this way but I really want a daughter and I want a son to absolutely just having like another version of meet us will be crazy. Just imagine another Anthony that you laugh like that hilarious. But I really want a daughter to be able to keep that kind of part of me because you're you're always heard like a man have daughters that's when they finally get their act together accurate and that goes sweet. That's a lot and I you never know. But I've always I've been told and I would like to think that I've been someone who's been more of a kind person so having a daughter I feel what kind of keep that in me and like strengthen it. And my one of my biggest dreams for a few years and I was just having that idea of like being able to take care of my wife and daughter and just to manifest and create that is one of my biggest dreams in terms of just even more personal life. And academically at the moment. It's just getting a bachelor's degree because I really am are master she wanted a few people or a couple people are caught doctor because you go be that one day Shakyra Go get her Master's. I don't know if you're going for any higher education after that. I wish Brian was here to show how close I'm getting to the camera. I do not like school bro.
(Shakyra) I don't like school. I just want some more degrees because one night it's just like, but you know, it is he fought like this. So why not take advantage? For us. And right here is one thing my granddad always told me to like my people, my family, they are very big on education. Like, they used to be so strict on me. Oh my god. I just told him that my GPA went down like last semester. They wasn't mad, but it was like yeah, he used to tell me like, listen, back then they didn't have all of this, you do take advantage of it. You know?
(Anthony) Like, that's phenomenal advice. And it could be bachelor's degree, master's degree. 80 degree like, type of degree. I always say I joke even I'm completely serious. I say that in a joking way. But I felt the only or one of the only ways I had to go for like higher education after a bachelor's degree is if there would be like a significant increase like my income. Yeah. Because even though I'm not a money person, if I were to go from like 80k to 20k I'm your school. That'd be Yeah, but like you mentioned people before as an added opportunity. So even at least even if I don't take the opportunity, we have the choice to go for a Master's PhD in multiple things, especially journalism is a very broad field. So just I have the opportunity to be great. Why not be great, right. Dr. Mike? Right. Go be great. Okay. And another one of the things I had in my notes, and it's a very interesting topic and shout out Kim she had an idea she has an idea for a future podcast episode that we hopefully be able to pull off but my say Michael Jackson Wow shout out shout the King of Pop Martin Luther King was he took the route of peaceful protest, he didn't choose the route of more violent things, and he had like his speeches to Chavez.
(Shakyra) But wait, no, no, he's he's a great, you know, influential person in the black community too.
(All three) Unfortunately, I have no idea who you're talking about Max. All right. Okay. Well, that perfectly segue. Just goes to show that I'm gonna keep it a beam. For the longest time, I barely knew stuff about Martin Luther King. They just say like, he had a dream about us. And he got he got he got shot, quote, unquote, die. So Mr. Luthor, Malcolm X, they didn't really at least I didn't really learn about Malcolm X.
(Anthony) And when I was building to the point, though, is which method do you think is more effective in terms of creating change? Because I do understand I am more if I were to give my answer. Give a spoiler my answer I do. I'm more sad towards like, the peaceful type thing. But I do understand the alternative. So
(Shakyra) because, well, due to seeing circumstances jado have made a good point, like in previous conversations, you know, we she was like, you had to be harsh in order to get heard. And you know, me, can be a little rebellious. But for the good reasons, though, for the greater good. So I mean, yes, you can be peaceful about it. But at the same time, you really got to, it's like, that's the thing about us black folks, like, we already have to show up with that bang in, like, in these spaces, because they're not they're not they don't see us, you know, so that's just my take on it, you know?
(Jada) Yeah, I think, I think it depends, like, I do think some instances pieces the way to go. Especially if you get in a situation where they're just not understanding, then that could lead to okay, we're going to talk about it. But if you come in buckin me, I'm gonna bucket you back. If you Okay, in a no.
(Shakyra) No, no, how old is like your grandparents is but well, Moss was kind of born during the civil rights movement
(Jada) was born in 1960.
(Shakyra) Okay. Well, our great great grandparents or other grandparents, they have that rebellious, you know, bone in a body. They was doing it, you know?
(Jada) Yeah. And then especially with the way like, protest, and being hurt is going now, you kind of don't have a choice, but to be violent, like peace can't get you some way. But at some point, you're going to see yourself repeating the same things. But I do see the title action. People could Well, I mean, you kind of take action the wrong way anyway. But people can take it the wrong way as you're just seeking violence, what it's like not doing it to seek violence. You're doing the change? Yeah. But we need that change. Right. Change doesn't come when you're just sitting down waiting, you have to make the change. Oh, that's what Michael Jackson. So make that change? What are you know, what you were talking about? Yeah, that felt like it. I feel like it depends on like, what your battle is. But I do kind of more so especially getting older side more with the, okay, we just gotta go, like, we just got to get it done. Can you see the US or it's just not gonna happen. And I feel like that was kind of the headspace loci for MLK, but he just still decided to do it with the respectful way until they really start to disrespect him. And then especially with him, like him, okay, Malcolm X, where he was just like, Okay, I gotta go into the pot, or you just not gonna give me the time of day confused, because even with both of them, they did it two separate ways, but it's still lead to the same result, they still assassinated, or they still you know, what I'm saying got those severe consequences when they didn't deserve it. But they still chose to separate methods. So is it really about your method? Or is it really about like, the consequences that you're gonna get afterwards? So this the same no matter what I do? I could walk up to you. Let's
(Anthony) Is it about is it about our actions or what we stand up for?
(Shakyra and Jada) The past, what was it 2020 protests? Oh, yeah. Black Lives Matter. protest? Yeah, yeah. That just got deadly roofer.
(Anthony) BLM. That's a whole nother combo.
(Shakyra) Yeah. Did you guys protests like in downtown?
(Jada) Yeah, I did it. Yeah. My school. It was funny. My high school held one and we walked downtown. Nice. Right, shout out. You see, I remember going to feel my classmates. But we made signs everything's pretty nice.
(Anthony) And even though I would say more to like the peaceful perspective. At the end of the day, people get tired and like black people get tired of going through the same stuff over and over and over again. So it really gets to a point where we like okay, you know what, let's talk about it. For less really get to a point where let's say we go say, let's say and unapologetically and let's talk about it. With that being said, another crazy thing speaking to Let's Talk About It So how to auto so I didn't this is another thing mentioned about um, MLK, a lot of things I learned about MLK wasn't in school. And one of the things that has been talked about is if he was a cheater, Did he cheat on Caretta? Gtalk. Right, what a white woman. So, at first I found outside I found that outside of school and I'm like, You know what I mean? He did so what can I say? That's crazy. Next thing I know this recently, I saw usually the Tick Tock on Twitter, one of the T apps your ex but one of those apps and they were talking about how they they're like this is just conspiracy theory that the FBI like made that up to kind of like throw dirt on MLK his name and demotic shaking his head I thought I'm like, way Whoa, that's a whole nother thing. And it's, it's even goes as far as such a loophole. And this is fact like a fact check. This one credit feels he never cheated, like credit to this day, or I don't know if he's still alive, but there's articles. She's no longer rip corretta but she said that she didn't feel Martin cheat on her. And if she's done in 10 toes I mean, she'll be didn't want to know it the most. So, um, that's it's just a crazy, like, Shakyra say, a rabbit hole to go down as far as like, what his legacy really was and what people want it to be. Because again, with the whole like, wild, gay, like quotation marks, y'all can't see him. But like him getting shot, apparently. I don't know if there's like a fact. But then he gets I heard he got killed in the hospital where he died. And that's what I heard. Yeah, it was. But yeah, like my friend Martin, for example. You would think he died from the shot because that's how Yeah, like, look crazy seeing the putting the kids movie, like, I get it. But like, do you think it's I feel like it's needed, though. But it's, like, six to seven year old like me? Yeah, yeah. When I was young, yeah, I remember in elementary school, so it's just, that's a bit early, but at the same time, I mean, a boom. And that's true. So, and I'm pretty good credit to go into a more funny perspective of it. So Mr. Jonathan major, it's really funny. How many Coretta Scott if I'm gonna be fabulous, if you know, you know, I'm not hip, unfortunately. But, um, yeah, this conversation about MLK, he had an impact. Even if we jokingly mentioned at the majors or even again, like you act, it depends on how you look at that situation, actually, very seriously. Not funny. But the more funny aspect of him being, I wouldn't say upset just so passionate about who Coretta was and how she held down Martin. Again, like I've just mentioned earlier, she don't feel cheated no matter what people say. So just having that compassion for a partner and then for Martin to have it for like the world. And I feel like it went as far I feel like Martin Luther King knew he'd probably be assassinated, or at least hurt in some way. So to have that in the back of your mind and still stand up for what you believe in. I mean, that's just reading
(All three ) It's so crazy, like in the history books. They purposely like make the you know, the pictures black and white. And like Ruby Bridges. You know, that is like the most fascinating story Ruby Burgess. I don't know why. I just really love her story so much. And she's I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Ruby Bridges. I'm sorry, I'm so sorry. I keep that in there. But no Ruby Bridges. She was a little girl who went to like a white school back, you know, way back. Oh, well, we are keep talking. You know, the people fight people. They was like really upset. Oh, yeah. My bed and they wanted they're kicked off to school. Yeah. Which one? Is it? Because it's so when I be like, Oh, no joke, somebody but like, Oh, it's so much of this. That happens. It's like yeah, it's so hard to remember each one especially. I know, like the event just not like by name. Yeah. Okay. So you say a black guy that went to the white school? Oh, yeah. I remember learning about what was that? Ruby Bridges? Nope. I don't know. What, whatever that is. But my foot was, it was so crazy. It's just crazy how they make it seem like it was so long ago. And it's just like, No, it wasn't long. Until I saw River Bridge, and she's still alive today. And she's my way it should be so random. Did y'all know why I can't believe I forget her name. The wonderful lady who wouldn't get up on the bus, Rosa? Parks. It's been a long day. Trust me, y'all. It's been a very long day. She lived in Detroit. She she passed away like back in 2005. Actually, so Did y'all know that she was allowed to see Shrek theory? Yes. So that Dad What did that guy do with anything? Random. She lived in a tree. Yeah, she lived on the east side. But we were technically alive with Rosa Park. Who's here walking around? Yeah, Ruby Bridget is my guy my age, by the way. But, and the thing how like, even when it'd be a talk, I just feel like the curriculum needs to change because it teaches it like it's like you said it's so we get in a talk about it. Let's talk about, like, it's making it seem like this stuff happened eons ago, when you look up the times and you do the math, it's like, well, oh, it's just now fighting those battles. It's like we're seeing this result. You know what I'm saying? I got
(Anthony) a question for y'all to prove your point. Or to prove this point. Do y'all have somebody or at least know somebody in your family who like was in slavery?
(Jada) I don't think so. No more. They recently passed away
(Anthony) like well, they were somebody in your family. And like I had a great grandma and Loki maybe even one of my grandmas are still alive. They said like they picked cotton. And when they told me that, like
(Jada) one of my great great grandma was was still alive. See, here you go. My great, great grandma was alive since he lived to see 104. Jeezy. Yeah. And I remember like when like my son, my femur was a younger they said they were asked a question all the time. And my mom even showed me some old pictures that she kept in hand. So yeah, I had her who was alive. And then like I said, my grandma was born in the 60s. So I feel like I have people in my family from all eras that my grandma says she grew up like Black Panthers protesting a child were her mama in the streets. The Detroit riots like to have people who are live to see those things. And it seemed like that was a everyday occurrence. Oh my every day Yeah. Specifically, like but Black Panther like riding outside of her house protesting like she would wake up, school would be canceled and they'd be out fighting like further for their rights. And I'm gonna you did that every day. She like yeah, that was the thing you just did it. You didn't think about it. You just knew this had to happen that will be in our discussion on the next episode, the you know, old school versus new school. But I'll just say that for later do so. Nevermind. But yeah, I feel like there's no need to change the way it's taught in general not even to make it more present because obviously it's 2024 but just it'll make it more real because even when you teach something they'll stuff are in the past. It sounds like a fairy tale. Or it sounds like something that could never happen then you think about a new like, okay, wait Rosa Parks died at oh, five we born in Oh, three. She was fighting okay. 60s 50s. But then like say you do that math, the time jump from those years aren't that big. So when you think about it, if you put the civil rights movement in the Now we could be the youngest doing that stuff. It could have been us making that fight. The time didn't matter. It's just the way they're teaching it. And then then with the book band is on to the teaching it to be that fairy tale, like it's not important. But oh, it's been 20 years. What are we talking about? It's still going on just in the different ways. We're still fighting. We're just not out there on the streets as much as they used to get us all they had. We have social media, we can fight do tags, we can call people like podcasts really, really reach people. So we're doing it the same way just in advance with technology stuff that they didn't have. Probably if they did have it was worked out in churches. Yeah, yeah. So imagine if they had this? Oh, we they'd be a force to be reckoned with. Okay,
(Anthony) Martin Luther King of Malcolm X had Instagram or Twitter or down a podcast together, talking. Content, the stuff they say. And it's crazy. Just the unfortunate part about these conversations is you say like, these, like the curriculum needs to change and there will be people who agree but in a different way. They say we don't we don't need to talk about those things. And like you said, just to have that fairytale image and it gets to a point where now Like Shakyra mentioned of the new generation it's up to us and whether we like it or not we'll always be in positions to have to talk about these certain situations as on demand say it gives another source man Sean DeMonte again says new Florida standards teach students that some black people benefit from slavery Yeah, let's see does Yeah, usable skills matter? Hey, let's give them that you want to know use was good taught us survival? Is he not a joke? I mean, he's real like our grandparents do. That's from it's from slavery. chama Excuse me but yeah, like you get them jokes. Grandparents be like this weather. I jumped school when this weather went on. Be trolling sometimes I think they know a little bit less.
(Jada) But a lot of it routes from Yeah. Okay, it's a useful tip. So what staying out in the blazing sun is useful so we can stay outside longer. Staying in the blizzard and cold is useful so we don't get cold as easily make a food out of scraps so we know to be useful when anything we got. Oh,
(Anthony) so it's like again, we could talk about these useful bye benefits, but we can be here all day if we want to really have a conversation. It's late in the day and even then, at least in my opinion not to get too political and they don't really I don't feel they necessarily care about how it benefited us. They just don't want to talk about it. Yeah. They don't want to take accountability for it, which if I treated and race of humans, like they weren't human for decades, or years on, I wouldn't want to talk about it either. But unfortunately, I'm black. Our lives have not changed as far as the impact that racism can have on black community. And one of the most unfortunate truthful statements my dad said, he said, like, son, racism is never going to go nowhere. And this like to think about it in 2024. It's like, wow, racism. I never go anywhere. One of our first episodes was about Tyree. Nichols was his name. DEF. Def, and it's like, that was sent out if you haven't heard that, shout out that. And it's like, what that was a year a little bit a year ago. And it's just like, even though we've came a long way, there's still a long ways to go. Which if it wasn't, I mean, what makes the journey fun. I mean, there's this comedian who made a joke he was asking God like God, slavery, bro. And, and got shut out a Long Beach Griffey. He was playing his God. He was saying like, Well, I mean, without slavery, what do black people got to fight for? And they had me sitting there thinking, Wait a minute, you got it. You may be you may not be cooking, but you may be cooking at the same time. So we didn't have to go to sleep. We could only do some things but again, without slavery. The world culture is just black people. But But that's all another conversation for another day. If I'm Jada Shakyra Have anything to end this off with and they definitely can. But I think there's there's not enough you could say about somebody who helped change our lives before we was waiting for was born. So
(Shakyra) all I have to say, now we have to be the change. We got to keep going on. Okay, that's all I have to say
(Each hosts hypes up MLK, lol)
(Anthony) I guess I ended up with this. Speaking of him being a junior, I didn't know Yeah, that's still alive.
(All three) Like yeah, his kids are. Kids want to ask. Yeah, Bernice, I know you have a granddaughter. I think that's Bernice. Okay. I think because she's on Twitter these days, you know, or he has bloodline that's still alive, which is great. Oh, no, that's his daughter my okay. Yeah, that is his daughter got kids want to ask crazy yeah. By corretta Yes. He have how many kids you see learn something new Aaron? Hey, yeah, he has bloodline so shout out remembering and then but then that's another thing that never taught every Martin Luther King the third Yolanda Bernice and Dexter King Dexter
(Jada) so technically his legacy is still here by blood still going it's still on this earth to so his changes spiritually through blood you know.
(Anthony) MLK, RIP to go man RIP to go MLK for you did a lot. And like we mentioned the beginning this episode. We wouldn't be making this episode without people like you Rosa Parks, my game Malcolm X, etc, etc.
(All three) Um, what's his name? Fred, I got it last night on my drink. I'm not gonna pray Hampton. Oh, no. Okay. But, um, yeah. And then again, even people like we mentioned Michael Jackson, the things you're talking about musically, would be things like that. I mean, Tupac Shakur
(Anthony) I mean, we can, the list can go on mean, like non black allies, like y'all are important as well. Yeah. And again, and I can end it off with that just, it takes a village not to just raise a kid but to continue to have change and
(Shakyra) community is important
(Anthony) If it was only black people fighting for our black lives. Unfortunately, we wouldn't get nowhere it takes us to accept the non person of color that wants to learn about us to try and get our voices out there to create one big family and and try to keep moving forward because it's not gonna be easy. And like my dad said, unfortunately, racism is not gonna go anywhere. And unfortunately, racism is taught. So if one thing is being taught, and one part of hate is being spewed or talked about, God need a positive side. I mean, the darkness doesn't exist without the light. So hey, man, that's a good one. Yeah, that's just shout out Genesis. Hey, but with that being said, very, very happy to be back. It's so crazy that we almost approaching our year anniversary season three, baby. Season three going on more. We'll keep this going as long as I have us and you Shout out to Monty again for listening in and helping us. Hopefully we'll have him on very soon. With that being said, this has been all say the chocolate where we've brought
(Shakyra) the sweetest
(Jada) the hottest
(All three) black culture to MSU
(Jada) And remember to stay sweet bye