EP 27 | Oktobearfest

In this lively conversation, Grizz and Ice Bear explore a variety of topics centered around festive beverages, particularly focusing on Oktoberfest beers and sour ales. They share their experiences with different beers, discuss sports, and delve into the implications of performance enhancers in athletics. The conversation also touches on winter weather challenges, the unique Vibram toe shoes, and the joys of pairing beer with food, especially Korean BBQ. With humor and camaraderie, they wrap up with their ratings and thoughts on the beers they sampled.

HOSTS:
Grizz: https://www.instagram.com/senpaistrength
Ice Bear: https://www.instagram.com/_._icebear_._

UNTAPPD ACCOUNTS:
http://untappd.com/user/IceBearBeer
http://untappd.com/user/GrizzlyBearBeer

CHAPTERS:

00:00 Introduction to Festive Beverages
03:27 Exploring Oktoberfest and Its Significance
06:23 Citrus Dawn: A Sour Ale Experience
09:34 Sports Talk: Mariners and Seahawks Hype
12:29 The Debate on Performance Enhancers in Sports
15:25 Beer Reviews: Oktoberfest and Hazy IPA Tasting
21:13 Exploring Beer Varieties and Preferences
27:26 Memorable Beer Experiences and Gimmicks
29:28 The Dynamics of Buying Rounds at Bars
36:26 The Quest for Podcast Recognition and Awards
40:29 Controversial Opinions and Rage Baiting
41:26 Imaginary Pugs and Key to Success
42:24 Beer Reviews and Tasty Treats
44:28 Perfect Pairings: Snacks and Drinks
46:24 Korean Beer Mishaps and Language Fails
48:30 Winter Woes: Ice and Snow Stories
56:23 Vibrams and Unique Footwear
01:01:29 Final Thoughts and Ratings
01:03:42 Episode Outro

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Grizz

Texas never saw a more hefty bear.

Host

Ice Bear

The fairest bear in all of Maple Land

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Grizz (00:36)
Ugh.

Ice Bear (00:36)
What a flaccid little pop mine was. That was disappointing.

Grizz (00:41)
I thought I said we'd let baby.

Ice Bear (00:42)
That

was, that was, it happens to lots of cans. That was bad.

Grizz (00:45)
⁓

This was interesting.

Ice Bear (00:51)
Don't worry, it happens to lots of cans.

Plenty of cans have that happen, it's fine.

Grizz (01:00)
The loud cracks, the loud cracks hurt.

Ice Bear (01:00)
It has stopping power.

look at that look at that bad boy

Grizz (01:06)
⁓

Ice Bear (01:11)
Look at that bad little boy.

Grizz (01:14)
Look at this ombre. Look at this opaque ombre.

Ice Bear (01:19)
You know,

you know what I would do with that ombre? You know what I would do with that? I would drink that ombre. I dare say I might even chug that ombre.

Grizz (01:28)
Yeah ⁓

⁓ man, it sounds like a Pokemon. ⁓

Ice Bear (01:35)
Now

Chalombre.

For the inevitable Mexican region that will come out some point. ⁓ Now, Grizz, what do the people call me?

particularly this time of year.

fine fine be bashful they call me a little pumpkin slut but i thought you know that's predictable that's too predictable at this point so i thought no more pumpkins let's do something also a little festive but maybe not pumpkin so this week i introduce coming from the aisles of ⁓ gernsten malt this is a october fest from

Grizz (01:58)
pumpkin slot.

You

too predictable.

Boom.

Fuck.

Ice Bear (02:28)
Pauliner München, the original Munich Oktoberfest. Yeah.

Grizz (02:31)
Yeah.

People died

there.

Ice Bear (02:39)
Oktoberfest? Probably. Probably there too. Yeah, I think they've they've died in many a place, but let me tell you, it's been a while since I've had a little festival of October and I'm excited for it.

Grizz (02:41)
Munich. There too, probably, actually. Yeah.

I like it because they spell it with a K.

Ice Bear (02:59)
What was the K? October?

Grizz (03:01)
Yeah, isn't it?

Ice Bear (03:03)
Yeah, that you know, you're right. That does make it oddly more festive.

Grizz (03:08)
Right? It's cool.

Ice Bear (03:10)
It is cool.

What you drinking?

Grizz (03:13)
So here, you know what?

I hear you with your octobers and I hear how you being festive but you sometimes

Sometimes you just gotta wait till the sun comes out and realize there's a big ol' orange and you gotta realize that sometimes we just lost. my lord, ruined my thing. God, my loud. Did you hear that? Or did the microphone pick it up or no?

Ice Bear (03:48)
Not really.

Grizz (03:49)
⁓ picked it up on my side and it was... injuring. Anyways...

Ice Bear (03:54)
you

Grizz (03:56)
Just fuck me up. alright, citrus done.

Ice Bear (04:01)
segue over just look at it. Look at the citrus on. I like this. Who's the urban family?

Grizz (04:05)
Look at it.

I don't know, but I imagine they're from a city and they're conjoined by blood. This right here is Citrus Dawn. This is Saurio with Caracara Orange in orange zest. You see this, you realize that this planet's...

Ice Bear (04:15)
a sour ale

Grizz (04:28)
I this isn't the flavor they're going for, but do you remember that candy sixlets? They remind me of that.

Ice Bear (04:28)
Now forgive

You're gonna have to forgive my ignorance. What is is Karakara in context of this? Is that a type of orange?

Grizz (04:43)
Yes. I believe it's kind of more of a bitter orange, if I remember right.

Ice Bear (04:48)
I...

You know, if I had a hundred oranges in front of me, I would not be able to identify one of them. I would go, that's orange.

Grizz (04:57)
There's

yeah, I think of the Karakaras that they are like almost more grapefruit looking because they're like, they're slightly more like pinkish on the inside.

Ice Bear (05:10)
It seems like false advertising. They should call it ⁓ orange pink. Pink orange or something something else in a Crayola box.

Grizz (05:16)
No.

They're lower in acid and higher in

antioxidants, offering a sweet complex flavor with notes of berries in a vibrant slightly floral taste.

Ice Bear (05:26)
Well,

While I eagerly await to find out if that's an accurate description.

I'll tell you one thing about this here Oktoberfest. I can understand why the Germans need pitchers, because one would not be enough.

Grizz (05:55)
It's kind of like a juice box. It's very refreshing.

Ice Bear (05:58)
Interesting. Now wait, a juice box beer or like a juice box in your lunch pail as a tot?

Grizz (06:04)
⁓

okay. Actually, they're not the juice box IPA beer. No. No, like, like, yeah, like a juice box. So like, a juice box. Okay, it's you take a big old swig of your juice box after you ate a sour candy.

Ice Bear (06:08)
Okay, that's that's what like just a juice box.

I think I'd like that a lot. That sounds very good.

Grizz (06:23)
You know what I'm talking about? It's really

good. Which at this ABV it better be good because it's a weak boy.

Ice Bear (06:31)
What is it? What's yours? What's yours? What's yours? Do we have a bear sink?

Grizz (06:35)
Yeah, it's a

five. It's a 5.5

Ice Bear (06:39)
Oh no, no bear sink. Oktoberfest is a 6.0. The Germans could not teeter down to the fives. They said six. Six, yeah?

Grizz (06:45)
Ooh.

But it's great.

Ice Bear (06:53)
Do beast however you say good. I can't remember

Grizz (06:54)
They don't.

do do us. That's all I know. Isn't it isn't isn't it do us do that ramps the ramps ramps nine song that do do host do host me. Right. Sounds about right.

Ice Bear (07:02)
Do, do us?

Sure, may- maybe.

⁓ shit. That makes sense. That

makes sense. We're tracking. We're tracking.

Hmm. Well, are your ⁓ are your ⁓ fellow Seattleites happy campers? Seahawks doing well? Mariners in the playoffs?

Grizz (07:32)
with them.

I think it's funny here because like again, I don't see much Seahawks things like today I saw one Jersey and one at I was like, shit cool But here I think everybody's fucking Huge for the Mariners. I got to see manner sure everywhere and they're super high because again like ⁓

Ice Bear (07:52)
hype for the Mariners.

Grizz (07:59)
They haven't done this good in like how long.

Ice Bear (08:03)
a bit by the way

Grizz (08:04)
Yeah, so like everybody's the Jays.

Ice Bear (08:09)
One one AL East got the by. Oh, yeah. Now, the real question is, did AI predict the World Series because it's looking pretty likely.

Grizz (08:14)
Damn.

I really hope so. This can be amazing. We we call it here first.

Ice Bear (08:26)
I just, if it gets the score

too...

Obviously simulation theory is right at that point, right?

Grizz (08:34)
Yeah, we screen chatted it, didn't we? Or do we? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's going to be fucking awesome to revisit it.

Ice Bear (08:37)
We did. It's in an episode. It's in an episode and I

definitely took pictures. We go back in and all the files are corrupted. episode one is scrubbed. YouTube deletes it for like language enforcement or something.

Grizz (08:45)
Yeah, yeah, ⁓

That's why they're crowded.

We know, we know why. It's the globe heads, the globe heads are... The globe heads are getting us.

Ice Bear (09:03)
They saw that ice wall and they didn't know what to do with it.

Grizz (09:08)
My favorite thing is Alex Jones when he's like in mid rant talking about how like the ice wall stupid. He's like, if the ice wall are like flatters, those really whatever you just see, you just see the, what do say? Or he's like, let me just be the wall over there. You just be a bunch of cats knocking shit off. Like he just, he just threw that. He threw that in there mid rant. It's like, you just like throw in a little joke and it's fucking hilarious.

Ice Bear (09:33)
⁓ yeah, that's yeah. Well done. Well done. ⁓ I should preface. go ahead. Sorry.

Grizz (09:41)
but that,

But the birds, the other birds, the bad birds, they freaking pulled it out of their bird buds today. was like, holy shit, that was a fucking good game.

Ice Bear (10:04)
Wait, which bad birds?

Grizz (10:07)
My bad birds. Yep.

Ice Bear (10:09)
The Ravens?

I thought they lost.

Grizz (10:16)
Yeah, no, I'm talking about I was I was gonna go to that. I was setting it up. No, was setting it up because like there was a thing when they were like up by three, they were down for long time, they're up by three. I was like, ⁓ my god, they fucking brought it back. We good. And then I could take a shower and I looked fucking lost.

Ice Bear (10:19)
I thought you meant like they came back in. ⁓

⁓

God damn.

Grizz (10:37)
I was like, ⁓ man, nevermind.

Ice Bear (10:41)
Cause I was going to say like my mom was all happy cause she's a chiefs fan, but she also occasionally doesn't realize that like NFL network will play repeat games. Cause sometimes she'll like call me on a Wednesday and she'll be like, Trav, the chiefs won. It was a great game. And I'm like, what? It's a fucking Wednesday. They just played like Monday. What are you talking about? And then she's like, yeah, it was snowing. I'm like, I, I think you might've been watching a classic. I don't think that was live.

Grizz (10:51)
⁓

You

You

You

That's fucking awesome. Oh yeah. Oh my God, they the second hour. Yeah. The Motherbirds haven't been too good. They won the one game and I was like, fuck yeah. And they've lost everyone since then. They're one in three right now.

Ice Bear (11:14)
They hit the tower strap. They hit the towers.

Yeah, I mean, luckily, they're in a division. a shit show because my my Bengies have no burrow for like three months. And the the only team that's got a winning record right now is the Steelers, which, by the way, did you see their game against the Vikings over in? Where was it in Dublin?

Grizz (11:39)
Nope.

No, I did not.

No.

Ice Bear (11:54)
So, so it one of those weird, you know, like they send it over to Europe game. So it was at like nine 30 this morning, our time. And, uh, in the middle of a drive, Aaron Rogers, like eating, smelling salts. I'm like, that is insane to watch just mid drive. And like, it seems like something that there probably should be a real rule for, but I guess there isn't because he was not shy about it. He was like, and he threw a dart to Metcalf afterwards. It was very impressive.

Grizz (11:58)
Yeah, yeah.

there.

That ones.

I mean, hey, you just know, I'm talking before a big old lift.

Ice Bear (12:29)
You know what? They should they should be legal like everyone should do it. All the quarterbacks should just constantly.

Grizz (12:35)
Yeah, it's f**king dumb as f**k.

I just imagine somebody on the fucking like on the line just rips a smelling salt and just fucking lays them on the fucker out.

Ice Bear (12:48)
Oh my god. Do you imagine Parsons before before a blitz? Just going to town.

Grizz (12:59)
I imagine it's like when Batman sees Bane getting buffer. I think it's the same thing. Same effect.

Ice Bear (13:06)
Yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah. What is that? What is that thing? They've come out with where it's like the Olympics, but they're encouraged to do gear You know I'm talking about

Grizz (13:15)
All right. Like it's open.

Yeah. Had a whole thing with the tiger about it. Cause she's like, it's going to convince is going to make people do want to get on gear more and just all this other stuff. And I'm like, they already do it. just cycle. you're not, you don't pop. They already do it. Like, let's just let them do it. Like, I don't see why, like if people want to push their bodies, which is on every single sport already does do it.

Ice Bear (13:30)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Grizz (13:45)
Just let him Like like just let him do it let it freakin like let him not worry and see how far they can actually push themselves Dope as fuck to me. I mean like there's untested and tested power lifting like and both are dope as shit Like let's see let's see some cool shit

Ice Bear (13:47)
Yeah.

My, my only concern

is if it gets really big, which I certainly I can imagine it getting pretty popular fast, especially given there's like, I think prize money anytime a world record gets broken, like substantial prize money. ⁓ I can see your youths, like teenagers that don't really understand, or like get how to cycle. And that I kind of have a problem with.

Grizz (14:26)
Like, but they're already, but yeah, which is, yeah, which would be my argument. also too, like they're gonna, they're highly more likely to cycle because they like Sam Sollick than because some fucking dude did the thing. You know what I mean? Like, it's like, I got, it's, it's nominal again to me. It's like, is, is not, is doing hair, is not doing hair in.

Ice Bear (14:28)
But at the same time, you could say the same thing about any drug.

Yeah.

Grizz (14:53)
Is the only thing stopping you from doing heroin that the fact that it's illegal? No, you're not, you don't want to, you're not doing cause you don't want to do it. Like, will there be people that are stupid enough for like in like natural selection will take us course? Sure. Yes. Right. But like realistically, how much gym bros at the gym are actually on gear and don't look like it because they don't do shit outside of.

Ice Bear (15:21)
Can you imagine being on gear and like no one ever accuses you of it? I know. I know.

Grizz (15:21)
You know what mean?

But there's a lot of fucking people like, yeah, yeah. Cause I know

I've known people that fucking cycle and like, and I'm like.

Ice Bear (15:32)
I

know.

Grizz (15:36)
It's like, bro, what the fuck?

Ice Bear (15:37)
Yeah.

Yeah, I just, I remember my first in depth conversation with someone on gear about it was one of my co workers at ⁓ Dish Network when we're installing satellites and the guy was big. And he looked good, but he was kind of explaining like, how when you're off cycle, how depressed you get, and how much it messes with your confidence. And I was like, that sounds awful. He's like, it is. And he's like, it's very expensive to

Grizz (15:41)
That would hurt my feelings so bad.

yeah.

Ice Bear (16:06)
And he's like, not so much the actual like gear, like, obviously, that is pricey. But he's like, the amount of food you have to eat to keep up with it. He was like, I'm spending like 400 bucks a week on groceries. And this was 10 years ago. So I can't even imagine now.

Grizz (16:07)
yeah.

That yeah that and then also just

Yeah.

Yeah, it's that but it's also like all the other stuff to help prevent side effects. Some people do some sort try to like keep their hairline. Because again, it's one of those things like you don't really know how your body's gonna side effect some people, their hair doesn't get affected. Others does. There are just random things like that. So it's yeah, I mean, it's a lot. I'm just like, I don't know. I think

Ice Bear (16:40)
Yeah.

Grizz (16:49)
Wasn't there that meme where the guy's crying? The guy's crying and it's like, she's like, ⁓ I'm glad you're not like ugly and big like those other guys that go to the gym. he's like, he's just there like soul crushed crying.

Ice Bear (17:08)
⁓ God. Yeah. that would be brutal. Absolutely brutal.

⁓

What's what's what are your what are your thoughts? How are you enjoying that bad boy over there?

Grizz (17:25)
Come on.

I'm telling you, man, to me, it's it's like just slamming a juice box after I eat some sour skittles. The residue from the sour skittles is like in my mouth. So I'm just like drink a drink of fucking juice box. That's what it tastes like. It's fucking it's great.

Ice Bear (17:48)
You know what?

Grizz (17:48)
I'm already on my second

half of my my bare 16 ounce.

Ice Bear (17:53)
You know what, you know what old, yeah, I'm almost done. You know what old Octoberfest from Polliner reminds me of? It reminds me of a above average bowling alley beer. Like this feels like something I should have in a bowling alley. And or a dive bar with billiards tables. Like it's kind of like, it's kind of, it's kind of Pilsner-y, but it's,

Grizz (18:06)
family.

Interesting.

that I love see like

Okay.

Ice Bear (18:23)
good

and refreshing and real easy to drink. Like this is, can already say it's like a solid B minus. I'm happy I got it. Oktoberfest is fun. Nothing to write home about, but it's definitely good.

Grizz (18:35)
I can't remember the last October for his BRFED, to be honest.

Ice Bear (18:43)
Yeah, B minus.

Grizz (18:47)
I'm conflicted on this one to be honest. Cause it's, it's a really good beer. It's not a great beer though, but like. If a six pack was like 12 bucks, I'd buy it. And I'd be happy about it. Like, like it's one where I hope it's around when you come to a whole Fentland and like, you know, and like, can, we can enjoy it. Cause I think you're going to really, really like this one. Cause it's really nice, really bright.

Ice Bear (18:59)
Yeah.

Ha ha ha!

I do like a sour.

Grizz (19:16)
Really easy to drink. It tastes fucking great. Like, you know, it makes me happy drinking it because I'm talking about it and I'm smiling. Like it's it's good. It's I think I think a B plus I don't I'm not comfortable giving you like an A but like a B doesn't feel right. So to be plus this is most definitely B plus solid, solid, solid beer.

Ice Bear (19:25)
That's good. That's all you can really look for in a brusky.

I like it. All right. Now I'm I'm inclined. I don't want to start without you, but I'm thirsty. Like I want to crack my second one.

I've it's a slightly bigger tall boy. I do I have your blessing to crack it early?

Grizz (19:56)
Let's do it. Let's get wild with it.

Ice Bear (19:59)
You know, you

know, you know, sometimes like I get a little I get a little overeager. I get a little I get a little too excited. And I just think to myself, you know, hey, hey, look at that beer. Look at that beer. Give me, give me, give me, give me, give me, give me, give me that hazy IPA. So this is from Big Rig Brewing. This is give me, me.

Grizz (20:04)
Bzzz

I like Big Riggs.

Big Riggs branding is also really good because the couple of you had from there, their cans are always fucking cool.

Ice Bear (20:25)
They're fun. ⁓

The instructions, for lack of a better term, which by the way, I just noticed the little hands begging for more of it.

are Gimme Gimme Citra, Gimme Gimme Amarillo, Gimme Gimme Simcoe, Gimme Gimme Mosaic, Gimme Gimme Chinook, Gimme Gimme Hazy IPA. So.

Grizz (20:49)
Damn, Simcoe's not bad, but friggin' Mosaic and Citra. Top two, top three picks there, yeah. It's like top two of my favorite three. There's two of my top three.

Ice Bear (20:56)
You're a happy little camper.

⁓

Grizz (21:13)
That looks good.

Ice Bear (21:13)
Now after the

Oktoberfest, I'm very excited for an IBA.

And also just like it's nice to have something that smells interesting. Because that I think, you know, that might be my biggest gripe with Pilsners and like feists and what is an Oktoberfest technically? What is its beer classification?

Grizz (21:26)
Hmm.

Yeah.

It's not isn't

that is it not it has to be a Pilsner or a logger Pilsner I would imagine right it looks like a Pilsner

Ice Bear (21:46)
Probably, yeah, I would think so. But they never smell like anything. They're always just kind of like urinal cake.

Grizz (21:51)
Yeah.

I

was gonna say like, it's those very much like when people say like shitty beers piss water. I'm like, yeah, they're talking about filters. They're talking about like, you know,

Ice Bear (22:03)
That's what they're talking about.

Yeah, 100%. 100%.

Grizz (22:11)
Yeah, like...

just thinking of all like the shitty light beers like, you know, like Coors, Keystone, and Natalie, all those. And then I remembered HUB came out with their own like shitty light beer.

Ice Bear (22:28)
Heavy light.

what's it called?

Grizz (22:36)
That's

for you.

Ice Bear (22:39)
Frio?

Grizz (22:41)
Yeah, but like, so like Spanish, like frio is cold. So yeah, so it's frio. You know, F-R-I-O.

Ice Bear (22:45)
like, hold us. I was thinking like free like,

gotcha. Rio

Grizz (22:54)
And it's just like, and it's funny because I know if it's self-aware, like, because I know what they're making because it's just a light blue and silver can. Like, you know what I mean? Like it fits in all those perfectly, like Bush, Keystone, that you're like, it just fits in there perfectly.

Ice Bear (23:03)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

If I have to drink one of those, by the way, I'm going, I'm going Coors, because I like, I like the mountain gimmick. I like my color changing mountains.

Grizz (23:23)
The amount of

gimmick is So of course I actually do like... ⁓

Ice Bear (23:31)
The banquet.

Grizz (23:32)
I don't like it as much. Yeah. I don't, I don't, don't like it as much as, I don't like it as much as like China, but, ⁓ I had a session drummer for a while and all he fucking drank was Coors banquet.

Ice Bear (23:34)
The champagne of beers.

Grizz (23:48)
He'd show up to practice. He'd show up to practice with like a fucking 12 pack all the time. Of course banquet, does it go to beer? And so we drank enough of them to him like, it's not that bad, know? Maybe I was wrong about you, Coops.

Ice Bear (23:48)
Elegant man.

You can deal with this.

That's how I got for a while. got that way with Molson Triple X. I was like, you know what? This is okay. For a Walmart beer, this is okay.

Grizz (24:19)
I don't think I've ever had a Molson.

You know, and like,

Ice Bear (24:24)
Yes you have.

Never. Not once.

Grizz (24:29)
I don't think so.

Are there, is there Mulsons in Texas?

Ice Bear (24:33)
You're telling me during your dad's moose head phase he never once picked up a Canadian.

Grizz (24:46)
Muslim beer and malsam, what the fuck?

Ice Bear (24:53)
What? Hold on, what came up when you looked at Muslim beer?

Grizz (24:59)
a Muslim guy with a beer.

Ice Bear (25:02)
you

Grizz (25:04)
A guy of Arabic descent with a beer.

Monson Canadian

Ice Bear (25:09)
Very good. Very good

indeed.

You've never had one of these.

Grizz (25:16)
Yeah, Muslim Canadian. I'd say, let's just do this. Where the fuck you at, Gemini?

Do they sell Molson beer in South Texas?

Ice Bear (25:28)
They absolutely have to.

Grizz (25:33)
Very so liquor depots in Dallas do have them The Morrison Coors beverage company operates in United States and while not a core part of his product expansion in Texas with you Okay, that makes sense because like in late 2020 so 2021 you yeah, it was a yingling Yingling right right that beer yingling yingling

Ice Bear (25:42)
I anywhere that.

I've had yingling at

a yingling. It's from Pennsylvania. Yeah.

Grizz (26:02)
Yeah. can see England like, yeah,

that beer came to Texas in 2021.

Ice Bear (26:10)
Wow, really?

Grizz (26:11)
Yeah, I was never in Texas until it and so So yeah, so like it's mentioned that makes sense that probably wasn't Wilson because the same parent company Just both

Ice Bear (26:21)
Y-Yingling is

one of those things that, ⁓ in the mid-Atlantic, that's like a, a normal, like, chain restaurant thing to have on tap. Like Budweiser Coors, like, yingling will be on tap for sure. Any, any Applebee's or like Texas yingling's on there.

Grizz (26:33)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, Texas, it's Shiner and Lone Star are always on tap.

in both Texas though, you know.

Ice Bear (26:54)
those those are both better. I would much rather have either of those

Grizz (27:01)
I still remember those as he's a play at this until like when we were a young and a young and band we used to play a lot of bars and bonds double seven rock bar was a place we played a lot and had two floors and it was cool as fuck. But they had a special and it was a giant fucking cup like this big, like like a big like a big gold cup. Right. And it was a big gold cup full of long strap for five bucks.

Ice Bear (27:26)
Nice.

That is a bargain. A big gulp of Lone Star for five bucks.

Grizz (27:36)
So we would fucking

just be getting those. We'd get two of those and you'd be toasty and you'd be great. That was fucking awesome. 10 bucks, toasty. So every time I think of Loan Star, I think of bonds and I'm like.

Ice Bear (27:44)
That sounds quite nice.

There was a place near my university that on on Thirsty Thursday, they would do bucket of bows like Natty bows with like the Pringles can kind of logo. Have you ever seen that?

Grizz (27:54)
That's good.

Mm-mm.

Ice Bear (28:05)
natural natural bohemian, but they call them natty bow round Merlin. ⁓ And so yeah, you would get a bucket of them. So it was like ⁓ five of them on ice in like a like a Fisher Pail bucket for five bucks.

Grizz (28:08)
Mmm.

Yeah,

beautiful. Love it.

Ice Bear (28:22)
Yeah, yeah, it was was a steal. It was a steal.

Grizz (28:30)
I love like the whole bucket of beer sinks. Yeah.

Ice Bear (28:30)
And we're talking bottles, not cans.

Yeah, it was nice.

Grizz (28:38)
I do like the gimmick of like a bucket of beer.

Ice Bear (28:38)
And it was a really smart move.

Yeah, it's a good, it's a good concept. And also like they knew it's a college town, right? So you give average college guy five beers. By the end of that, you're probably drunk. If not, you're teetering on it. And then they had like a lineup of very interesting shots that were all pretty overpriced. So like, I'm sure they made it back in spades just with guys that like they order their bucket of beer.

Grizz (29:03)
Damn, that's smart.

Ice Bear (29:06)
They're feeling good now, you four or five shots later. Now that $5 tab is 70. She just had a bunch of stupid shots and you probably bought some of them your friends or whoever else's bar. So yeah, was, it was, was a good gimmick.

Grizz (29:17)
Yeah, true. I don't know if there's ever been.

Yes, Mark, because I don't know if it ever been in time for been at a bar where I didn't buy around.

Ice Bear (29:28)
Right? mean, it's like, unless you're really like there to just be the sad guy in the corner and stare at the bar, like, you're probably getting at least one.

Grizz (29:41)
Yeah, cause like I, and I think, guess it's kind of communal too. Cause like even like with friends or when we go out, even like, I can say is I got an older and like in other cities, it's not as prominent or I haven't noticed it, but at least back home, it's always you go, go out with a group of five guys, every guy, each out of the five guys are going to go and buy around for the group.

Yeah, and so it's like five beers like I bought five drinks it all balances out right because we all have five we have but it's just like the gesture I guess, you

Ice Bear (30:18)
Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Now here's my question.

Grizz (30:22)
Like if I'm gonna go buy one

already. What's the question?

Ice Bear (30:27)
The question is, when you go up and you buy your round, are you leaving a tab open or do you close it down immediately?

Grizz (30:36)
I will typically leave a tab open.

Ice Bear (30:39)
Me too. Me too. It's I think the concept is and now that I'm older and I've I've heard this, this thing on like, tik tok and various platforms, I'm probably going to start shutting them down. Because I guess oftentimes, if you look friendly enough, people will just like point at you and be like, yes, it's on his tab. And like bartenders won't question it.

Grizz (30:40)
Yeah, I don't see the point of close closing. I'm going to get another beer.

Ice Bear (31:06)
And so you just wind up with a random drinks on your tab. So I'm like, I can see that happening to me.

Grizz (31:13)
I was never happened to me, but then again, I think about it. I'm not friendly looking so like This probably go. Yeah, it's never happened to me like

Ice Bear (31:19)
That's true.

You are an aggressive little lad with your your toast running to class. Chris- Chris- Chris- Chris-

Grizz (31:25)
Yeah.

Hahaha!

Right, is it? No, is this?

⁓ no, but you want me try again?

Ice Bear (31:56)
yeah, shit. Yeah, he had it. You had it. Now, here's my follow up question to you. As we've been recording this on your end, have you been turning black and white periodically? Or is that just for me?

Grizz (31:57)
Love and peace.

I think it's just as it has happened yet.

Ice Bear (32:17)
So like

my my own screen of myself has been totally normal the whole time. And not blurry, but you probably maybe five times as we've been recording this have just gone black and white. And then sometimes you're like, almost like, can you think of those like, what are they called the screamers were like, it gives you like a puzzle to look really close at the screen. And then like, a weird like close up of Michael Jackson would pop up and it would like scream at you.

Grizz (32:31)
⁓

Yeah.

Ice Bear (32:48)
So it like freezes your frame and you go to black and white and then it blurs itself and it kind of looks like one of those. But then it goes right back to normal.

Grizz (32:54)
Interesting

interesting. I there's been a couple times where you got like a tidbit blurry But like not not I don't know we're gonna let this room with me I'm gonna get my second beer

Ice Bear (33:06)
fucking Oktoberfest.

⁓ please, please do. Please do. Hold on. All right. You're here. All right. Well, now while he's gone, folks, here's the important thing to consider. ⁓ I think that was easily my best

Grizz (33:10)
I'm gonna take a beer.

Aww.

Ice Bear (33:35)
work yet when you stepped away from the computer. I'm genuinely very proud of it.

This

is one of these things that I cannot wait to, in a week's time, listen to this in the car as I'm commuting. Like, I'm so excited to hear myself in that interim. And I'm so excited to get the text from you when you're editing this. And you're like, God damn it, that was hard. Where's our fucking Grammy?

Grizz (34:01)
You

I gotta...

Ice Bear (34:11)
Did they have Grammys for podcasts yet? Where's our recognition? What is the award ceremony? Can you imagine? We get an email. And it's like, hey, we need you to come to Bangkok. Look, you're nominated for a...

Grizz (34:16)
Yeah, where's our recognition guide?

Thailand when you're gonna give us a when you give us an award

Ice Bear (34:35)
Give me something Thai other than Bangkok. Like I'm sure I can think of scooters, little scooters, street massages. ⁓

Grizz (34:46)
Ladyboy.

Ice Bear (34:48)
No, stop. No, no, no. No. All right. Actually, probably yes. Harp on that. We're probably going to get to 27.

Grizz (34:50)
Ha

Ice Bear (34:57)
of

But yeah, like Thailand's just going to invite us and they're really like, guys, like you're nominated. We appreciate your efforts. And we get there and we have to graciously turn them down because we don't agree with the system that leads to the awards. They just want to give it to foreigners for clout. That's not our thing.

I would gladly accept the award anyway.

Grizz (35:28)
Yeah, I was gonna say, think I was still gonna accept it.

Ice Bear (35:31)
Yeah, we would take it. would put it on. We would have to share it. We'd have like six months every year. Like you'd like mail it to me and then I mail it back to you.

Grizz (35:34)
being gracious.

Yeah, that'd be great. It's perfect. It's bonding.

Ice Bear (35:42)
I also

have to get a mantle to put it on.

Grizz (35:47)
this trip me too. Now, and then we'll go to Thailand.

Ice Bear (35:47)
So I'll get a mantle first and then we'll just display it six months out of the year.

Hold on, in this scenario, they're just mailing us the award before we ever go there.

Grizz (35:56)
There you go.

No, no, we're gonna

we're gonna get a mantle so we can be ready for the series. Yeah

Ice Bear (36:05)
in advance, like we're

gonna go there. We're gonna go to the ceremony. We're look guys good news. Both of us have a mantle now. We're ready. And then they're like, you're a distant seventh place. Sorry. Sorry, boys.

Grizz (36:24)
Ha

So here's the thing.

I don't know what the hell you said when I was gone, but did you hear what I did when I came back?

Ice Bear (36:35)
I did not know. I was too busy tooting my own horn.

Grizz (36:37)
it's spooky.

Ice Bear (36:43)
What'd do?

Grizz (36:46)
I came back and I did.

That's being spooky.

Ice Bear (36:54)
I thought that was like a weird effort. The. The fucking Twilight thing.

Grizz (37:03)
Where you been at loka? No, that's not that.

Okay. It was a

Ice Bear (37:12)
⁓ well done. Very, very good segue. Two sours in a row. Who are you? New Grizz, who this?

Grizz (37:14)
I was doing a dark him.

Dark sour nail with raspberries.

Ice Bear (37:28)
shit. I've got to be honest with you. I had I love this can. I really like this.

Grizz (37:29)
Spare ease

Right? This is so fucking

cool.

Ice Bear (37:38)
That's very good. Well done, Urban family. I now like to think this is just Keith Urban's nephew, and he's just got a brewing company.

Grizz (37:49)
Damn Phil, you're doing good.

failed urban.

Ice Bear (37:56)
⁓

Oh, oh, oh, that was a good one. That was a provocative crack. That brings Yeah, it brings all the boys to the yard. So who

Grizz (38:02)
Did that fizz come through?

Did I tell you she makes sauces now?

Night Lady, the boys to the art lady.

Ice Bear (38:18)
The who?

Grizz (38:20)
The other thing goes to mom actually brings on a bone for now and they're like and better than Yeah, yeah, she makes sauces

Ice Bear (38:24)
You did. Yes, Kellis. Yeah.

You did that's that is fascinating and good for her for branching out Because sometimes once your milkshake has already like eventually all the boys are in the yard So like what are you gonna do once all the boys are there you make some sauces and you sell them some sows

Grizz (38:34)
Yeah, I bet them sauces bring out the grocery.

And then what you do sell some sauce.

Ice Bear (38:49)
sell them some sows. So

Grizz (38:51)
my lord.

Ice Bear (38:55)
that is a very dark little number. And a thick head on that bad boy.

Grizz (39:02)
⁓

this smells like fucking raspberry overload. Holy shit.

Ice Bear (39:10)
I'm excited for you. I think I would love that. That looks great. ⁓ I'm also like

Grizz (39:13)
My mouth's watering, honestly.

Ice Bear (39:19)
Okay, here, full disclosure, I could have a third, if prompted. ⁓ And it would, it would, it would be right in line with yours. So I'm pretty tempted after I finished mine to go grab it regardless.

Grizz (39:34)
So here's the thing. Now I can do a bear thing or I can, you know what, let's do a third. Cause I have a third. I'm going to omit my second half and I'm going to go get a third.

Ice Bear (39:43)
Okay.

Okay. Okay, I like it. I like it a lot. I like it a great deal. Bless you. ⁓ So it's it's funny, because every now and again, we'll get to a point where I'm like, all right, that was that was a good chuckle or two. You know, when we when we get into post production, like that could be that could be a thing we could put on the old interweb people enjoy that. But I just I would generally prefer

Grizz (40:09)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Ice Bear (40:17)
to be positive, but I was talking to the seal and she was like, you know what you boys need to do? You need to rage bait people. I don't know if I can bring myself to do it, but you, you seem like a rage baiter.

Grizz (40:29)
Like what? Like...

I'm an I can.

Ice Bear (40:35)
You have some controversial opinions.

Grizz (40:38)
I'll play any side to piss people off.

Ice Bear (40:40)
I know you would. It makes me want to just pick one hot button issue a week and just watch you fucking devils advocate it. Murdering puppies? Well, the fucking puppies had it coming.

Grizz (40:42)
Hahaha

Just saying.

You know, it also depends what kind of puppies, to be fair.

Ice Bear (41:08)
What kind of puppies are you okay murdering?

Grizz (41:11)
Look, I'm just saying if I had to watch like a bag of like husky puppies drowning or a bag of pugs drowning, I'm saving the huskies.

Ice Bear (41:18)
you

Grizz (41:26)
I'm going to just let them dry out of sync and I'm going to go save the...

Ice Bear (41:26)
Okay, okay.

⁓ no, ⁓ no, I hate when I'm proven wrong so quickly. She's right, that is the key to success. Just that fucking 45 seconds of you murdering imaginary pugs for no reason.

Grizz (41:49)
You

I would just say did you get closer to that bag and you hear that you're like open the bag

Ice Bear (42:04)
You know what?

You guys aren't going to make it much longer on your own anyway. That face was not meant to exist in reality.

Grizz (42:11)
See ya.

Ice Bear (42:16)
The shorter a face gets on a dog, the further it strays from the wolf.

Grizz (42:21)
Yeah.

Remember, why you came back.

Ice Bear (42:39)
no. ⁓ fuck. That thing was so good. Fuck!

Grizz (42:40)
You

Well, it's so good.

Ice Bear (42:56)
Okay, ⁓ sidebar, ⁓ the the gimme gimme

Grizz (43:03)
Who how was it?

Ice Bear (43:04)
I'm glad I have given myself the gimme gimme. This is quite tasty.

as a little pumpkin slut. can't give this an A because I've had too many good tasty pumpkin A's, but I will give this a B plus.

And it deserves every bit of the plus. It's a damn good beer.

Grizz (43:24)
Okay? Okay.

Alright, I'll take that.

Ice Bear (43:32)
And it's also

just like, it's a nice change of pace to have to have the the dankitude, the dankness.

Grizz (43:38)
That, yeah,

it's true. That's very true.

Ice Bear (43:42)
It's pleasant.

It's pleasant every now and again.

Grizz (43:48)
⁓

Ice Bear (43:51)
you

Grizz (43:52)
You ever think like sometimes you're drinking like a really good beer the you think I ever think like

For me, it's specifically salami, but you can say it's a secretory reward, guess, if you're like wannabe thing. But, you know, sometimes just having some salami and drinking beers, I think is a good move.

Ice Bear (44:13)
just like a little salty meat snack.

Grizz (44:17)
Yeah, it's like you're like, you know, you got some fucking Calabrese spicy salami slices while you're sometimes I'm drinking like sours. I'm like

Ice Bear (44:24)
Like, don't get me wrong.

Grizz (44:28)
be nice.

Ice Bear (44:30)
I would I would absolutely tear that up. That does sound delicious. But normally if I'm what I'm craving is something like ⁓ you know what it would be most of the time, especially like as the inebriation level grows. Just something real simple like a bagel bite. Like just like a sausage bagel bite warm, cheesy, salty.

Grizz (44:53)
Bagel bites fucking hit. Bagel bites hit.

Yeah, bagel bites hit. I can do bagel bites.

Ice Bear (45:01)
But

salami, ⁓ you know what another really good one is? Actually, this is probably just like some fucking Korean fried chicken.

that when you're drinking that, is just such a good taste.

Grizz (45:18)
Yeah, yeah. Like that's like the fruit jelly go to john kind of glades that they have on some of it sometimes. ⁓

Ice Bear (45:27)
Yeah,

Grizz (45:33)
Outside of that.

Ice Bear (45:33)
Karage. Karage's real good.

Grizz (45:38)
Yeah, I'm getting crispy. know what I also like.

Ice Bear (45:40)
Actually, you know what?

I don't think but like anything at like a KBBQ place when you're when you're drinking is fantastic like any just like meat on grill. Simple. So good.

Grizz (45:50)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Meat on grill is good,

but if you add those little pickle radish balls.

Ice Bear (46:03)
⁓ those are so good.

Grizz (46:05)
You know what I

mean? you, you, know, like that.

Ice Bear (46:08)
The,

know what? That is what the rest of the world's fucking up on. Asia wins as a continent for the random fucking veggies at every meal. Just random pickled veggies is such a good addition.

Grizz (46:20)
Yeah, because it's just

Yeah, because like, and Mexican restaurants, you can get the pickled like carrots and jalapenos. And that's that's good. It hits here and there. Or like, it's like, it's like the sliced red radishes and two like, that's cool. It's good. But like, it doesn't hit it's not as like, it's not as refreshing, you know, it doesn't have that crisp bite. They're like, this pickled radishes that Korean spots get.

Ice Bear (46:36)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah.

No. No.

Have we told the people... I feel like we may have, so you're gonna have to cut me off if this story has already happened. Have we told the people the error of my pronouncing a very popular Korean brand beer on this version yet? I know I've told you, but I don't know if we've told...

Grizz (46:52)
This is so good.

Yeah, I don't think you have.

I don't think we have.

Ice Bear (47:17)
Okay, all right. So here, let me regale the tail.

I need a little liquid courage because I'm so embarrassed. No, is just like this. No, this can is just massive. Like this is a fucking giant can. This is a 20, what is this, a 26, 27? Like this is a normal can. It's just a big can. Okay. So, add a KBBQ.

Grizz (47:23)
Is that a new beer?

Is that your new beer?

⁓ shit.

⁓ okay. Gotcha.

Ice Bear (47:48)
getting ready to order a pitcher. I've already had a pitcher of Cass and I see one that's spelled H-I-T-E. So I, being ⁓ a gentleman that likes to pronounce my vowels properly, I'm thinking, all right, this is a Korean word. It's probably not ⁓ sounding like American. It's probably heate. So I'm like, hey, can I get a pitcher of heate? And the waitress is looking, like I have five heads and like.

Grizz (48:17)
Huh.

Ice Bear (48:18)
this one and she like I'm like pointing out she's like a height and I was like oh I I'm sorry I'm a buffoon I did not know that's how you say that fucking word and then they brought it out and I had that delicious crisp Korean brewski yeah you say it fucking height don't be an asshole like me

Grizz (48:30)
Yeah

The thing is like you read it like romaji, right you read it like Basically, yeah cuz like in romaji likes like in Yeah

Ice Bear (48:44)
Well, like in Korean, an I is an E too. Like, it's

not like a Japanese word, it's a Korean word. But like, still like the vowels would still work roughly the same.

Grizz (48:56)
I'm trying to think of like, no.

Ice Bear (48:57)
but it's not like it's not Korean.

What happened? no. no, this is scary. All right. I'm going to keep talking in hopes that he returns. If he doesn't, you will now get to watch me enjoy this beverage slowly but surely.

Yes. Good indeed. Here's what we're going to do, We're going to we're going to

give that old grizzle biz a little texticle. We're gonna see if he's alive. You know what I'm guessing happened? I think that guy was on his laptop tonight. I bet that frisky so and so I bet his laptop battery died. I bet he saw it. I bet he saw the battery alert. He said, no, no, my battery is dying. And then he

probably is just in terror right now, just scrambling to get back to us. So in the meantime, ⁓ let's, what do we want to talk about? I don't know. There's so many things we could talk about. We could talk about a biz ball.

bizball season wrapped up today my glorious Toronto Blue Jays winning the AL for the first time and I think like a decade so good for the Jays. I'll wet my whistle a bit. ⁓ I think the Yanks and the Red Sox snuck in there so I hope they both implode and don't make it into the latter rounds. As we talked about ⁓

Grizz (50:53)
Well, that was weird. I guess I fucking, I just got booted out.

Ice Bear (50:54)
Did you you did you

did your battery die on your laptop?

Grizz (51:01)
Did for whatever reason I mean it's charged bill and drug or not apparently But look at that old gris back in action Old gris back in action there we go. That's better

Ice Bear (51:11)
I was

debating leaving, but then I thought, you know what? Also, I don't know if you care, but it says you joined in portrait mode.

You may want to tell them to switch to landscape orientation so it matches yours. I have told you I have informed you. I love it. You just side. No, you're just sideways now and I love it. This is this is maximum. I I whatever happens, no matter how bad my rambling was until you got back.

Grizz (51:41)
Why did that, that didn't work?

Ice Bear (51:55)
Leave this unedited. Also leave yourself sideways unedited. This is peak 2b2b.

This is what the people want. Bless you. Also, just I would say switch it back around. This is very weird.

Grizz (52:05)
You

Thanks.

Ice Bear (52:15)
Yeah, I would say, I like this kind of kind of a split the difference.

Grizz (52:23)
I like that. I like that very much.

Ice Bear (52:24)
I like this a lot.

Uh-huh. So wait, what are you on now? Are you on a phone or something?

Grizz (52:33)
Yeah, I'm on my phone, I have my, I have this USB microphone connected to the phone.

Ice Bear (52:40)
This is, this is, I, this is, love this. This is very good.

Grizz (52:40)
some cheese and a mic

This is is

Borillo this is Borillo Warfare.

Ice Bear (52:51)
⁓ and you've had a lot of that little raspberry, haven't you? You rascal.

Grizz (52:59)
that half of a six pack.

Ice Bear (53:01)
Wait, did you have the whole raspberry thing? Did you beat me somehow to the end of the second beer?

Grizz (53:06)
Well, I only had this. I didn't do. I didn't do the second one. I've only had.

Ice Bear (53:18)
I've only had an eight ball and a little bit of heroin and some Fent.

Grizz (53:18)
Six ounces, I guess.

I've had some Citroen Downs and I had some Doc Hams

Ice Bear (53:31)
Very good.

I like everything about it. You know, I kind of like this. This feels like, this almost feels like an interview now. I feel like I'm in the studio and I've called you and now you're the man in the field reporting about a blizzard that's about to happen or maybe a sinkhole behind you or something.

Grizz (54:00)
We've got reports of black ice.

Ice Bear (54:06)
You joke. You're fucking three months from a shit show. You're lucky you walk to work.

Grizz (54:14)
Dude, that's true. So I have heard like there are things where people I've saw like, or people update where people try to go up the fucking hills over here when it's like icy and the cars just fucking I am so glad that I pay for garage parking. And so my vehicle is off the streets.

Ice Bear (54:28)
Dude, you-

Yeah.

You're also lucky that the city will salt the sidewalks.

Grizz (54:42)
I can only imagine.

Ice Bear (54:43)
because there are

places in Oregon and even Washington now that I think about it, where like the towns don't necessarily have the funding to salt sidewalks all the time. And once or twice a year, like it is, you just get a fucking half inch of ice. So that day and a half, two days until it melts, it's just the most treacherous shit in the world. It's so bad. You're just walking on a frozen pond basically.

except it's melting so it's a little bit worse like it's just really really awful.

Grizz (55:18)
Yeah. I mean like there's times where it gets like when the whole Delosco stuff happens, there's times like trying to walk through the parking lot when it's just like encased in ice. Like that does suck. I remember one time I got hung up with the tiger and I was like, Hey, I got to get off. I got to like focus on this because I was going to a store and my friend was going to load pallets into my truck bed so I could get a little bit more grip. But I had to walk into the store.

Ice Bear (55:46)
⁓ God. Yeah.

Grizz (55:49)
Right. I backed up and I started walking to the store for this slippery. And as soon as I hung up with the tiger, I fucking ate shit. Just fucking fucking just ate shit. And the tiger was so pissed off on me because I hung up before I ate shit because she wants to hear me in pain, apparently.

Ice Bear (55:57)
⁓ man.

Dude.

Do you remember a couple winters ago when we had that like, I want to say it was like 27 inches of snow followed by a day that was slightly over freezing. So it melted and we just had like the our entire yard was just an ice rink. And every time I think I fell like six times in like two days. I was definitely concussed. It was bad.

Grizz (56:23)
Yeah, I remember.

I remember when like your work parking lot was just fucking in case too.

Ice Bear (56:40)
That was nightmarish.

Grizz (56:41)
Like I

really remember that shit.

Ice Bear (56:46)
so stupid. So stupid. Yeah, because there's certain times here where it just they can't keep up with it. Like I will give even the most rural town in Ontario is like hats off to these guys. They are fucking great plowing insulting. But the nature of our weather here, there's just times where you're getting like eight inches of snow, like in two hours, it's just they can't keep up with it. There's just no way. And so because of

Grizz (57:04)
Mm-hmm.

Damn.

Ice Bear (57:15)
how quick they are to salt the roads and put the treatment on the roads like it will start to melt but because of that when it's negative fucking 25 it also freezes real fast so it doesn't matter how well they're keeping up with it you just wind up on an ice rink and it's yeah it's it's stupid

Grizz (57:22)
Mm-hmm.

Ice Bear (57:37)
But the good news is...

Grizz (57:38)
Yeah,

can't imagine having to drive.

Ice Bear (57:40)
If driving's terrible, just can't like, everyone has winter tires here. So you can kind of drive on ice if you go slow enough, walking is the hard part. But the trick I've learned is you don't walk. You just pretend you're skating and then it's fine. You just like skate through the parking lot. And if you have rubber soles, you're fine.

Grizz (57:59)
Yeah, I didn't mean

to do that.

like some nice vibrams.

Ice Bear (58:08)
Hmm. ⁓ yeah, little toesies. Little toesies out.

Grizz (58:16)
Does someone about to fall? Good. You ain't falling.

Ice Bear (58:18)
Didn't Vibrams do a collab

with someone? I feel like they did a collab with some boot company. Columbia maybe?

Grizz (58:28)
Well, mean, Vibrams makes souls for like a lot of boots in general. you know, like some Vibrams souls are actually very popular with boots. But Vibrams also makes toesies, toesies shoes.

Ice Bear (58:37)
Okay.

Yeah, the the toes issues are the most interesting things for me to every time I see them in the wild, especially at the gym. I'm like,

Grizz (58:49)
I haven't seen,

to be fair, I haven't seen him in a long time. When's the last time you've seen a good old pair of fucking Vibramtozis? Thinking about it, I haven't seen, I haven't seen him in a fucking, like, for me it's been years.

Ice Bear (58:58)
Like a week ago.

No, like a week ago.

Grizz (59:07)
Damn. Is it the purple color?

Ice Bear (59:08)
Beca-

⁓ i don't remember the color but i just remember seeing the the toe spread and it freaks me out every time

Grizz (59:19)
Yeah.

They're the monkeys.

Ice Bear (59:22)
But

it's one of those things that I get it. Because if I was running distance still, I think I might invest in a pair. But I'm not. So I have no desire to do it.

Grizz (59:37)
I do.

Yeah, I do really like, cause if I ever makes like the like, the like Shido Fookies or some shit like that, I don't know what the fuck they are. the name, but it's like these roll up origami shoes that you just put your foot in and you like strap around your foot. And I see those and they look kind of futuristic, but like, I'm like, okay, I can fuck with those. Cause I think you just have a lot of some roll up pair. You just roll up the pair and you put it in your bag or whatever. Like those look dope.

Ice Bear (59:59)
I need to look this up. That sounds cool.

Grizz (1:00:11)
Those I can get behind.

I've almost bought a pair a couple of times to be honest.

Ice Bear (1:00:20)
⁓ these are cool. I've never seen these, but I like these a lot. These are kind of like, you know what these remind me of? These are kind of like our notorious lifts a little bit.

Grizz (1:00:23)
Right?

Now these are cringy.

Okay.

Yeah, but these are fucking cool. I like these a lot.

Ice Bear (1:00:37)
Because for those that don't know, ol'

Grizz and I have matching notorious lift, deadlift slippers, not by choice, just purely purely because the words both stylish as fuck.

Grizz (1:00:52)
Yeah, cultured.

Ice Bear (1:00:53)
Yeah, these are great. I love these. I've never seen these before. I need a pair now.

Grizz (1:00:59)
Yeah, and they just roll up in these small little rolls.

Ice Bear (1:01:03)
This is the most upsetting thing I've ever read. So I'm looking at the description. Free shipping, free shipping on all orders except Canada, Hawaii and Alaska. Well, fuck you Vibram.

Grizz (1:01:17)
Well, I he's got a super over here and he had a he's got to come visit over here

Ice Bear (1:01:18)
I'm not buying anymore.

I just start sending all the shit to your house and I just come and collect a carry on luggage worth of wardrobe accessories. That's the way to do it. That's the way to do it. My god. Well, we tell you.

Grizz (1:01:29)
Yeah.

Yep.

Ice Bear (1:01:45)
The question is, now that you've gone guerrilla mode and you're on the phone, are you done your second one?

Grizz (1:01:53)
Yeah, I finished it.

Ice Bear (1:01:56)
And that was what, a B plus for you.

Grizz (1:02:00)
dark. Yeah, it's a B plus. Because it's it's better. It's better than citrus dot

Ice Bear (1:02:09)
Ooh.

Grizz (1:02:10)
No, it's an A minus. It's in anyways, it's than Strasdon. It's an A minus. I am reticent to give it a minus because it's still weak boys of 5.5 like the other one.

Ice Bear (1:02:12)
very, very nice.

Mm-hmm.

Grizz (1:02:26)
But it is, I gave Citrus Dawn a B plus and I think it's very worth it.

But Dark Hymn is better. And it's easily better.

Ice Bear (1:02:45)
Octoberfest sticking with B minus good piss water gimme gimme ⁓ B plus i was i pleased with it but i've just i've had too many good pumpkin beers to ⁓ give it an A

So with that in mind, mean, are we feeling frisky or because of the technical issues, should we just wrap it here?

Grizz (1:03:08)
around me.

I think we should. I think I think because the technicals will will wrap it, but will be frisky.

Ice Bear (1:03:27)
I agree. I like this.

Grizz (1:03:29)
Right. OK.

Ice Bear (1:03:31)
So I'm going to say reverse countdown. Three, two, one, skibbity-dont.

Grizz (1:03:40)
Beep-bop.