The Unfunded Podcast

In Episode 27 of The Unfunded Podcast, Lachie and Lleyton return with race stories, training updates, and plenty of triathlon drama. From birthday beers in Melbourne to race prep for Noosa and a first crack at the half marathon, the boys mix personal insights with hot takes on the state of the sport.

They dive into the corruption scandal around triathlon’s election process, inconsistencies in rules across T100, Ironman, and WTCS, and why the sport desperately needs a reset. Plus, a full breakdown of the latest WTCS Karlovy Vary, rising stars like Max Studer and Henry Graf, and how Beth Potter and Cassandra Beaugrand are shaping up for the women’s title fight.

Show Notes
  • Birthday beers, Melbourne footy finals & Port Macquarie reflections
  • Training updates: injury recovery, half marathon goals & Noosa prep
  • Noosa Triathlon – why it’s the “second World Champs”
  • Drafting pet peeves & riding etiquette rants
  • Triathlon politics – corruption in election processes & athlete protest rules
  • Why triathlon needs a universal rulebook across Ironman, T100 & WTCS
  • WTCS Karlovy Vary recap – Max Studer, Henry Graf & Luke Willian’s big race
  • Beth Potter vs Cassandra Beaugrand – women’s title battle
  • Kona hype & media nostalgia – Breakfast with Bob, posters, and triathlon mags
  • Predictions & quick picks for upcoming races
  • Wrap-up and what’s next on the pod
Episode brought to you by Official Beer Co.
Produced by Podfire.

What is The Unfunded Podcast?

Where triathlon meets real talk. Hosted by two seasoned triathletes and one Sarah, this podcast takes a deep dive into the controversies, challenges, and triumphs of the triathlete world.

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Speaker 1
Oh.

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Speaker 1
And welcome back, everyone. I'm trying to do better with that. Yeah, I know, it's good. It wasn't an all righty. So? So I'm happy. Trying to change. Welcome back, everybody, to episode 27 of the unfunded podcast. As always, I'm professional triathlete. Lachlan Jones is my good friend, Leighton Wall, also a professional triathlete. And we are brought to you by Official Beer Co.

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Speaker 1
Perfect. Did you have any on the weekend? Lucky yeah I did, I did not a fan a good boy. No I think I think it was our awesome. That was my birthday on the weekend. Yeah. So thank you to everyone for the birthday messages. Nobody from the podcast actually, but, I'll send you one. Yeah.

00;00;46;10 - 00;01;06;09
Speaker 1
We. Yeah. I'm like, fans. Okay. Although we have that many, but, yeah. No, I definitely did. Had a few J lagers, on the weekend, up in Melbourne watching the footy finals. Down in Melbourne. Down in Melbourne. Yeah. No I was it busy, busy. Yeah. Very Melbourne. Melbourne's chaotic. I've never been to Melbourne before.

00;01;06;10 - 00;01;25;17
Speaker 1
Oh, serious. Yeah. It's just I could live there. I could live there. Yeah. If I wasn't doing trough or maybe. Yeah. I feel as if it's more you're saying, you know, you like that trendy. Yeah. I felt like I was in London. Yeah. We were at one of these, like, rooftop bars in, like deep in the city.

00;01;25;19 - 00;01;42;29
Speaker 1
And I actually said that to one of the guys that I just randomly met. Yeah. In London. Yeah, yeah. I was like, mate, you even. He's like, the way he was dressed, he had the leather pants. So yeah, I guess it's it's very climate though as well. Exactly. It's pretty cold. Yeah. And it's summer coming into summer. Yeah.

00;01;42;29 - 00;02;09;26
Speaker 1
So, Yeah. No, I had a very fun weekend. Very special. I mean, I still haven't spent my birthday on the go. Well, yeah, I obviously I spent it in Australia this weekend, but, like, not home on the Gold Coast. Just doing nothing. So again, I'll just add Melbourne to the list of all the other places that maybe next year, maybe next year you can be like everyone else and just just have it in the whole coast.

00;02;09;28 - 00;02;28;14
Speaker 1
Pull me, pull me. Would you get up to anything? I went back to Port Macquarie. Yuck. Yeah, there's not much there. Oh. Going on. I thought, you know, maybe I'll go back and things might have changed, you know, get a bit busier. School holidays. Nice to know. And around. I couldn't believe how kind of dead it was.

00;02;28;17 - 00;02;46;15
Speaker 1
Oh, my, my grandma's there. Yeah. So for me, for me, it's a retirement place. You go there to to die. Well, it is the retirement village of the mid-north coast of Australia. But, yeah, I like, as I speak to anyone and they say, where are you from? Ago. Port Macquarie. They got. Oh, yeah, I know someone there was like their grandma.

00;02;46;15 - 00;03;08;25
Speaker 1
My grandma said they grandma lives there or although they went there on a holiday when their kids were five or something like that. Oh, great place to go and live when you're older. The great James Magnussen used to swim there. So yeah, he's got that. The basal body myself from there. Okay, baby jumper you got, you got the, the missile and and a couple little pistols, a couple of chocolate.

00;03;08;27 - 00;03;25;17
Speaker 1
Nah, all of the, I've said this before, I think on the podcast, all of the a fair few trophies. Try and claim that they're from Port Macquarie. I don't know why they'd be doing that. I don't know why. I think it's because I'm sorry. I'm in. And they're like, oh, when locals, it's like, no, you're actually two hours north.

00;03;25;18 - 00;03;41;12
Speaker 1
Yeah. You can't, you know, the local. No. Yeah. So there's a few of them. But, now it's good to go back, see the family and, you know, come back up here. But it was swiftly a bit of a quiet period, isn't it, at the moment. Just kind of like doing like I felt like at the end of last week obviously.

00;03;41;12 - 00;03;58;12
Speaker 1
Like we're both both in a bit of a weird we're both in weird spots of training, like you're recovering from an injury. I'm just coming off a big block and it's like almost a little bit of like, I don't know, just just from where you are. Yeah, I feel I feel like a lot of people kind of get to September and they're either.

00;03;58;18 - 00;04;19;03
Speaker 1
I mean, you're either Matty has are fighting for a world championship and you, you know, you're ready to go or. Yeah. All right. Let's just get this season over with so we can get to the next one. I just start working towards the next one. So yeah, it's a funny time. It's weird because it's like that lull before the summer high where it all peaks off and everything like ramps up and you're like, yeah, we saw that in Australia.

00;04;19;09 - 00;04;40;19
Speaker 1
Yes I'm fine. Australia a bit like new season kind of ramps up after summer. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, that's all right. Yeah. Do you have any races that you're going to announce that you're doing? Yeah. I guess you could probably do a couple of race announcements. Yeah, I'm just doing a fun little one this weekend. So we've got like, for anybody that doesn't know Australian triathlon are putting on like a little practice heat out for the people going to world champs.

00;04;40;19 - 00;04;59;23
Speaker 1
So, yeah, I'm basically just going there to everyone, all their confidence and just, okay, beat up all the 14 year old. Yeah, I think there's a lot of juniors there. So for me there's no if you get they there's not much to gain for me. But there's a lot to lose. So yeah you never know. Next, next week, next week's recording.

00;04;59;25 - 00;05;20;10
Speaker 1
I might be retired. Yeah, maybe. Like maybe, But. So that'll be fun to head out this weekend. And then, next weekend. Sorry. Yeah, the weekend after, I'll be doing my first ever half marathon. Oh. So. Yeah, doing a doing just a little local one up at, Cooley. Yeah. Okay. Cool. Jake G50. Yep, yep. So I'll do that one.

00;05;20;13 - 00;05;40;07
Speaker 1
I don't know how fast it is. I was looking at some of the times last year, like the course looks fast, but they want it in, like a 74 minute. Depends who goes sends you guys. Okay. So what, do you want to go there? I mean, I under 110. Yeah. I just wanted to go down to 110, but then everyone's telling me like 67, 66 somewhere easy.

00;05;40;12 - 00;06;06;22
Speaker 1
What's that? It's like it's like three tens. Okay, I think I think 110 is like, 320 is bang on. I'm pretty sure 320 is bang on 110. Yeah. So I think like, I think 312 is one six high, maybe around one seven. So I don't know, I'd, I'd like to go out. I'm probably going to try go out at about 315 pace for the first maybe 510 K and then try to pick it up till maybe 310.

00;06;06;22 - 00;06;24;02
Speaker 1
So the last ten uncharted territory though. Yeah. It's, it's I don't know. Yeah I don't know. So we'll say I mean you don't want to be blown up and. Yeah it's going home. Yeah. It's like yeah it's a tricky one. But yeah. And then I'll do Noosa Triathlon which is basically the second World Championships this year. Yeah.

00;06;24;04 - 00;06;40;06
Speaker 1
Everyone's here and it makes sense. Two weeks after two weeks after Wollongong. And I mean perfect timing. I think most people know what Noosa triathlon is. But for those who don't and you might not know it, it's the biggest triathlon festival in the world. It is still is it? Yeah. Yeah. No, it actually is. It's not. I'm not just saying that.

00;06;40;06 - 00;06;59;29
Speaker 1
It actually it is. I don't know the word logistically or. Yeah. Yes, yes. Participants. Participants and like, like overall participants in terms of all the that helps with the events. Yeah they've got the you've got the boat, you've got the cycling, you've got the swimming race, you've got the swim run race, you've got the teams, you've got the tiny tots, you got the tiny torches, the legends race.

00;06;59;29 - 00;07;15;27
Speaker 1
That's always really cool. Like it's a three day festival, I speak. Yeah, my mum got pretty pissed when she found out I was racing it because she's kind of claimed that as her weekend. Obviously I got a lot because you got to look after the dogs. She's pissed off. I'm not looking after the dog. She's like, well, I have to find someone now.

00;07;15;27 - 00;07;32;24
Speaker 1
I'm like, yeah, I just let me race all right, so that's mum's, that's usually mum's race for the weekend. Yeah, I love it. Hey, everyone loves it off at Noosa and it's just a three day bender. Yeah, it's a big party atmosphere, isn't it? Usually, usually. Especially for, like, I guess the professional saying it's like the end of our racing season.

00;07;32;24 - 00;07;52;01
Speaker 1
So a lot of people go and use that as their last race. Yeah. For the year. So, most prize money in Australia, most prize money is like, 15,000 USD or something. So, I mean, that's nearly a World Series, I think World Series of like 18, 19,000 USD. So it's pretty close to that. That's pretty good. It's not bad.

00;07;52;03 - 00;08;06;24
Speaker 1
On who will actually be on the start list I know Maddie House is doing it. I've heard that like a John Reid chase, McQueen's doing it. Cassandra, by Grant doing it in the women show, a couple of the T100 guys like, Jamie Riddle got me a few years ago. I hope not. That's just to be.

00;08;06;27 - 00;08;23;05
Speaker 1
It'll be pretty electric. That so annoying that the first time that I've like for someone ages that I've gone. Yeah, I'm going to really knuckle down for a new. So like it's my it's my main, sort of my main race in the next block. Yeah. And every minute is dogs decided to do it this year. So it's like any other year.

00;08;23;05 - 00;08;39;28
Speaker 1
And you go, oh wait, you always have a very good field. Yeah. But not this. Yeah. No, it's not as stacked as it is. This is probably going to be the best field we've ever had in the triathlon. And it's hard for a guy coming from short course, because if people don't know it's a triathlon, it's not drafting.

00;08;40;01 - 00;09;08;00
Speaker 1
So you could use your time trial bikes. Yeah. So it's not that I'll get dialed. I'll get I'll be talking it in, talking it in talking in talking in how fast? But now that yeah, that's my next couple races. How you got injury was, I have this week left of no running. Okay. And then, say big Bradby, and get assessed, and then hopefully I can start doing some light running, aqua jogging drills that kind of.

00;09;08;00 - 00;09;30;10
Speaker 1
Yeah, okay. That kind of stuff. So start jogging. Rehab. Yeah. Can't see. I can't wait to see you with the with the pool in the morning. Aerobics and scissor, scissor, scissor and kick kick. Arms up ladies. I'll be doing these once. I'll finish out, victory swim and all of the, aqua aerobics. Oh, ducks are over there.

00;09;30;11 - 00;09;49;08
Speaker 1
I might have to just jump straight from the O2 a little embarrassed. Well, I did that, actually. Yeah, I've got into the aqua aerobics arcade. Like, bit of aqua running now, so. Well, it's going all right. I'm back riding up. That still swimming. Yeah. And sorry I to this morning apparently. Yeah. You snubbed me on the bike. I can't believe it.

00;09;49;08 - 00;10;08;22
Speaker 1
Rodney. Vitaly. Craig. Look, he's just had headphones in. I did messages last night and said, hey, do you want to come riding in the morning? Anyway, I got snubbed, so I thought, oh, maybe he's a bit sad or whatever, you know, he's the AFO team. I'll make it into the grand final and the same riding over Tally Bridge and I'm going the other way.

00;10;08;27 - 00;10;31;04
Speaker 1
Yeah. Hey, lucky. Hey, you going? Nothing. Nothing blanked. Well, say I'm trying and I'm locked in that can't be that. God, mother. Effort. Not always. I always usually wave. But I honestly didn't want to say, you know? Okay, I didn't see, I didn't see. That's good. So I was always. Oh, yeah. Good. You should wave to everyone. Yeah.

00;10;31;05 - 00;10;47;12
Speaker 1
Every guy on the bike. I get annoyed if someone doesn't wave back at me. No. See, my biggest thing is when they draft off me if I don't know. Yeah, and you dropped in off me. Is that your pet peeve? That is my. I fucking want to pull over and just go. Get away. You can't. You're slower than me of going around you.

00;10;47;12 - 00;11;06;16
Speaker 1
I've passed you and you got my wheel. Yeah. Oh, there's nothing to fuck me as well. It's always all bosses as well. They're just sitting on my wheel drafting them. They. I don't mind that if they have a chat and go, hey my how are you? And then jumps on. No, no. Like okay, now because I don't want to talk to you and I also don't want you on my wheel.

00;11;06;18 - 00;11;28;16
Speaker 1
It just feels like I feel uncomfortable. Yeah. My space like this is my drafting is I get the cell. Very pretentious. Yeah, yeah. You know, you're not as good as me. You're like wank. All right, let's move into, let's move into some triathlon news. Yeah. What's broken? The advertising over. Here we go. Oh, God. Arbitration of sport.

00;11;28;17 - 00;11;52;25
Speaker 1
We practiced. We practice that. Now you go back to us. Advice of arbitration of sport have been involved with the election of the World Troy Committee. We talked about this briefly. Yeah. We did. Yeah a few weeks ago. And nothing really came from it. He still got elected. But they've come in and they've done an investigation and they've found that there was corruption in the process.

00;11;52;28 - 00;12;11;17
Speaker 1
I feel like we already knew that there was corruption. Yeah. So they've just gone like, oh, we're just going to clarify that there is, is we're not going to do anything to change it. And that was some conniving guy. I think he may have been the vice president or president of Triathlon Canada enabled it to happen. So there was another guy mixed up in it.

00;12;11;21 - 00;12;36;23
Speaker 1
At the end of the day, I just think there's a whole lot of politics going around within the sport of triathlon. We we kind of need to sort the shit out by if we want, if we want. And it's not even just in. We speak with, Aaron Royle a lot about it, and obviously he's pretty heavily involved in, I think he, he's a part of maybe the 100 or the, it might not be specifically, say, 100 or a part of some sort of athlete commission.

00;12;37;00 - 00;12;59;10
Speaker 1
Yeah. And, there's a few things that he's, you know, raised in terms of, even what was it? Well, the main one we're talking about, it was it was obviously revolved around how the world's shoe dispute. Yeah. And when Hayward came out and said, you know, I did use illegal shoes and whatnot, we said, oh, why are people protesting?

00;12;59;10 - 00;13;24;13
Speaker 1
That apparently is only a 15 minute window for people to protest after a race. So you so you have like so say Yellow Games wanted to protest that he's got 15 minutes from when he finished to file a protest or. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So it's like 15 minutes from when yellow finishes. It's like anybody who's race or race before knows that in that 15 minutes not thinking, you're not thinking straight, you're not looking at shoes, you're not going, oh, I need to put a protest.

00;13;24;16 - 00;13;47;15
Speaker 1
Like if he is, if days later someone's come out like we were talking about it in terms of, if you say like Rico Bogan, obviously this isn't true, but say this is theoretical, say Rico Bogan has a, a, motor in his bike. Yeah. If he, you know, has found it, that's okay. No one said in it's 16 the 16th minute.

00;13;47;15 - 00;14;08;00
Speaker 1
He could put his hand up and go, oh, I'm gonna make a lot of money on the black bus. Unlucky. 16, 15 minutes. Yeah. Yours? Yeah. Fuck you. Yeah. There's nothing you can do about it, so. Well, yeah. It's, And I'm saying that to not not again, not have a ticket. And that was just like, there's plenty of, there's plenty of rules and regulations that need to be assessed.

00;14;08;02 - 00;14;25;00
Speaker 1
Yeah. And rectify often. Yeah. I think like the sport is growing at a pretty rapid pace. Yeah. We need to really make sure that, you know, we have clean cut rules and regulations systems in place. So I don't yeah. Not just on the political side like we obviously there's it's all of it as a whole, triathlon as a whole.

00;14;25;00 - 00;14;44;13
Speaker 1
We need to just come together and really make sure that we are operating in a fair and just way so our sport can grow. And this is where I think the issue is you have so many different factions of the sport. Yes, the T100, the World Triathlon you have on man, you have challenge and they all have different rules like let's just say long course.

00;14;44;13 - 00;15;08;16
Speaker 1
The most simple one which changes between the two is the drop zone. Yeah. So what every every single race has different, different drop zones. Yeah. And why isn't it all just universal long course like we have. This is your drop zone. And I think that it's like the boxing world Championships. And we've talked about you have the Tae 100 world champion on man world champion, 70.3 world champion, challenge world champion.

00;15;08;19 - 00;15;29;29
Speaker 1
We don't need it. No. Just have one I think. Make it universal. Make it clean. Like the sportsmen belt to match. Yeah. To where it just needs to be cleaned out all the same uniform instead of being. I've also never kind of progress in a direct manner that's like, this is the line of triathlon. Yeah, that's where it should go.

00;15;29;29 - 00;15;52;20
Speaker 1
And nobody really knows. Sort of. It's even, like nobody really know. I think till you 170.3 an Ironman, I think obviously Ironman is is the main one. So like Ironman should be like that. That is the pinnacle challenges like those separate private races. Yeah. I can't think of any others. But like, like two, 100. That's a different distance.

00;15;52;20 - 00;16;14;19
Speaker 1
The 70.3 and the 70.3 is a different distance to Ironman. So like they're clearly the three big ones right now. Let's just go. It's tough to even say like T 100 world champion because it still is like a just a private event privately funded event. Yeah. Like I mean they are obviously partnered with World Triathlon now, but it's still like it's like super it's like Super League world champion.

00;16;14;19 - 00;16;32;07
Speaker 1
It's like it's like it's it's yes. You won the Super League series but like yeah. Are you the world champion. It's like the boxing. And we've said it before because then because I mean I don't think we've had one this year, but like a us super sprint world champs that's in. So we, I don't think we've had one.

00;16;32;07 - 00;16;51;12
Speaker 1
But usually it's in Hamburg and you have the super, super sprint world champs. For me that is the super sprint world champion. Yeah not Super League. Yeah. But obviously there's like great. It's close and it's confusing and it's just I get it. It's just people trying to make events and growth which is good. Great. That's awesome. But we need to maybe like clean it up a little bit.

00;16;51;12 - 00;17;11;10
Speaker 1
Yeah a little bit like all over the shop. Messy I mean money's money and there's like challenger off right. That's great prize money and like athletes we need to be getting paid. But yeah I don't know Rose. You can have different events and different organizations, but the rules within the actual swim bike run. Yeah. Need to be exactly the same.

00;17;11;10 - 00;17;34;15
Speaker 1
Yeah, I agree, I agree. Moving on, moving on. Y hi. That actually, did you watch it? I didn't neither, I watched actually, I watched the swimming bike. I watched the wrongs. It was a good time. It was in China. So yeah, I mean our road two difference in the two behind. Did the men and women race on different days?

00;17;34;18 - 00;17;50;03
Speaker 1
Continually. But I just got back from like I didn't was training and then I was like, oh 11:00 I was watching, I was on yeah, I was watching it on my birthday. And I kind of was like, I don't want to be spending my birthday at for. I was looking at a phone, you know, I was with the girlfriend too.

00;17;50;03 - 00;18;06;13
Speaker 1
And I think, that might have not gone down well. So I thought, I'll put this away and, you know, be a good sport. But, I obviously watched the highlights, and I think it kind of happened the way we thought. Yeah, came together. It came together. I mean, the men were what I like on off the men.

00;18;06;13 - 00;18;24;27
Speaker 1
What I saw there were two very distinct packs. Yeah. Kentaro really shit the bed. Yeah. Maybe wasn't. I mean, came out like a minute ten down on the swim and he was my pick to win. I think he could have done very well. And I think he probably could have won it if he was in that front pack.

00;18;25;04 - 00;18;50;07
Speaker 1
It's probably one of the fastest swimmers in the world. Sorry. Forces runners in the world right now. So, yeah, he needs to sort that swim out because it's going to be the thing that makes. Yeah, makes her break. It was weird because it was a runner race in the end. But then like, you had still front pack swimmers running the best of, you know, I mean, I mean, I think that's just the way it's gone.

00;18;50;08 - 00;19;08;03
Speaker 1
Henry Graff is kind of just come out of nowhere this year. Where is his weakness now? Where now? Like he can ride at the front, right off the front. Like he's weakness is the run. And he's just run himself into second. Yeah. You know runners race like you look at the people behind him. You go to John Rage.

00;19;08;03 - 00;19;29;09
Speaker 1
You go to Morgan Piers and Luke Wilson. Who else is that? Cantero was in six. Oh, he ran himself in the season. Yeah. Like, you know, runners field. Someone who we haven't really thought of as which runner. We probably should stop because he's run himself into fourth in at the Derby 3033. We spoke about 20s back off.

00;19;29;12 - 00;19;47;05
Speaker 1
Max Tudor like really not good. Like that's an impressive run. Yeah. So I mean, and again, like we said, he's 22. I know, I'll tell you what I'm scared for. And I feel as if this is a few years down the track when he goes to Long course. Oh he's going to be he's going to be was going to be a bogan isn't.

00;19;47;08 - 00;20;04;29
Speaker 1
Yeah. He's going to like everything Rico Bogan doesn't have. He has he has. Yeah. He can ride. He can swim and he can run just as fast as all of them. He'll be scary in like four years. Can you imagine him like the. What's that? He'll be able to put out on a time table. And he's tall. He's like six foot looking.

00;20;05;00 - 00;20;26;08
Speaker 1
Seven. Yeah. Massive. He's he's huge. Yeah. Like I remember when I raced in world champs on the 20 threes. What was that two years ago. Three years ago. And I think like I was with Oscar and like there's some pretty short people in the sport of triathlon. Like it's not really big units. And I remember walking into the briefing thinking, yeah, I'm one of the biggest guys here.

00;20;26;11 - 00;20;46;07
Speaker 1
The Germans came in and I was like, oh my God. Like they're all it was like him, Simon hence lot. And then I think it was the US, the Holt brothers and even their like six one, six two. I was like literally all just big Germans. I was like, fuck off. Now I probably I, but I was the big guy here.

00;20;46;10 - 00;21;06;29
Speaker 1
I can't believe he's 2002. He's my age. Far out. I can't believe you're 22. It's my little sister side. And so our winners for the men's Max Duda, his first, his second race of the year on the World Series stage. Oh, no. First World Series race this year. I just don't understand why he doesn't do more. Yeah. You're winner.

00;21;06;29 - 00;21;24;03
Speaker 1
Why are you not doing more? I don't know, he's just sitting in China training. So, Max, you know, one is, German. Henry Graf in second and John Reed in third. John Reed also his debut podium, which was pretty cool. Okay. He's got quite a few World Cup podiums, so I think it was probably he was probably due.

00;21;24;04 - 00;21;42;20
Speaker 1
Yeah. And still a great run. Only two seconds off studio in that run. Yeah. Well, credit where credit's due Luke Wilson. Well, yeah. Fourth. Yeah. Flying. Can't forget. Yeah, yeah. Fly, fly on the fire. Flying the flag for the Aussies. It was the only one there in the end. And, Yeah, I mean, look, he really is capable of something like that.

00;21;42;20 - 00;21;59;18
Speaker 1
Yeah. That's exactly we were. He's. And I think he's a bit of an unsung hero. He's probably getting, you know, not the limelight that he should. He's, he's he's having an incredible year. But because Matty has is just having the year that he's having he I think he's sitting in sixth overall in the series. We can check that off.

00;21;59;24 - 00;22;17;11
Speaker 1
I was speaking to somebody yesterday and it's like he's sixth in the series and he's got two fourths, two fours. And I think there's a couple other top take of top ten. So like he's doing very well. But because the house is doing what House is doing, it's like nobody's really saying that's what it's been like celebrated 100 years ago.

00;22;17;12 - 00;22;34;20
Speaker 1
Yeah, 100% like in the dark ages of Triathlon Australia. Like only a few years ago we were starting to lose like our Jake Bert whistles and Matty House wasn't doing. Matty has a things. It was like oh he killed for a six. Yeah. Sixth place in the World Series. So yeah, I think I think we've obviously given Matty Hauser a lot of love.

00;22;34;27 - 00;22;53;01
Speaker 1
Like we say, we're watching. What you doing? So good on you, mate. We'll have to get him on the pod. No, not, in the women's. It kind of went how we thought it would as well. Beth. Paula. Dominant. So I feel as if she was the pick there. She's been so good over the last few years.

00;22;53;03 - 00;23;16;10
Speaker 1
Lisa Hirsch was in second. Yeah. For me. For me, I can't remember. I actually can't remember who I picked now, but I kind of. I think we picked, Beth Porter and Lisa, too. Yeah, I think those two are pretty obvious. Tyler spar in fourth and honorable mention. And then Tanja Neubert. See, I think she's done some things before I, we probably could have researched her a bit more, but I think she's done some things in a World Cup level.

00;23;16;13 - 00;23;34;18
Speaker 1
The Germans just have people coming out everywhere, everywhere, everywhere. I can't even keep up. I can't even keep up with, like, who's done what anymore? Especially in the women. Like, I feel like we had a few of the, few of the German men maybe thought like we had you saw them, and hence lots. We haven't heard of Team Hell week in a while.

00;23;34;20 - 00;23;53;16
Speaker 1
Lesser priest? There's less of Lewis. So, like you would, the German men have kind of dropped out a little bit. And Henry. But then Henry Graf is kind of flying the flag. But, yeah, the women, honestly, the just seems to be a new German. There's there's heaps of them. Not in this race here. But remember when there was, like, four in the top six?

00;23;53;16 - 00;24;13;18
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, they're doing things. They're doing things. It's it seems like they've got their junior through to elite program done right because they are on a massive base, which is I think why we stole one of their we still coach is still one of their coaches. We got big Daniel Unger, on pool deck with us now.

00;24;13;18 - 00;24;32;06
Speaker 1
So, that's pretty cool up yours. Hopefully we can, replicate that. Yeah, that'd be cool. But, yeah, Beth Paul has done some things now, and she's gone and just equaled the. Yeah. So the World Series for the women, it's pretty much a race of two. Pretty much whoever wins in Wollongong will win between these two girls.

00;24;32;06 - 00;24;51;13
Speaker 1
Is Cassandra by Grant and Beth. Paula, what a run race equal. So that that's probably the most exciting one. It's tricky because as you go see who wins it, literally. But I mean, you can have, like, John, the head could come through. We're going to have to sit down sometime this week, put out a spreadsheet and go, who comes where?

00;24;51;14 - 00;25;10;18
Speaker 1
How does it for unfold? Yeah. Like the the men are obviously exciting because they're close, but I think like Matty. How's it doing? Yeah. It's tricky. Like this one literally is it's neck and neck like it's Tyler. Whoever wins between those two wins the series. Unless they have a stinker and Leah or Tash or someone. Yeah, that would have to crash it out.

00;25;10;18 - 00;25;30;23
Speaker 1
Yeah, something like that. Cassandra's done that before, so. Yeah. God, you just be on a rainy, a rainy day. It will. The going is not going to help Cassandra. And she's not she. She's scared of the corners. Like we've seen her be pretty timid on corners, especially in wet conditions. Matty has or is known for fucking doing something like that.

00;25;30;23 - 00;25;53;25
Speaker 1
He fell off last year in Torremolinos, like. Oh, just just let's have some people say that. Yeah. So. Paula. Cassandra by Grant, John le head. That's one, two, three so far. Top two. I'm tied in the late men. So we have Matt has are obviously full points. Miguel Hidalgo it's the same. And Vasco Henry Graff could actually sneak onto the podium.

00;25;53;25 - 00;26;16;03
Speaker 1
And, what are they, stronger. Oh, he's a he's 600 points back. Okay. I don't think he's going to make it. So I need him to win. Has to come second and then don't really care because and Luke's in six which is really good as well. So where's Hayden topping. That's probably no good 18th. Yeah. So he's not getting on the bike.

00;26;16;03 - 00;26;37;28
Speaker 1
Yeah. Now say I needed to see racing both again. Maybe end. I got word Alex here will not be on the start list in Wollongong. Yeah. So you should have done your homework, buddy, because that is a terrible pick. That was that was at the start of the podcast. You hit the bed for that one? Yeah. I mean, don't act like you've gotten any better.

00;26;38;01 - 00;26;52;22
Speaker 1
You still love picking your own Rogue One. Yeah, I love a Rogue One because you need it. Oh, it's just I'm not I Jane Luck you, mate. What do you mean? Playing Janet could literally get one to. No, I'm probably going to get one, 2 or 3, but houses I could have a hazard. And Cassandra on. I picked them both to win.

00;26;52;22 - 00;27;14;08
Speaker 1
Oh, that would actually be pretty big. Do it for me. In more news on man world champs in China. Yeah, I like Conor. Good spot. I can't wait to the like they both back. Both back in the kind of weekend like that. That's you can just park up watch come watch Conor and have like flip between the men in the women.

00;27;14;09 - 00;27;37;08
Speaker 1
Yeah. Have pro try and use put up that bit of a nostalgia. Yeah. That was cool. Really cool. Like kind of how. And obviously we weren't watching at that time. Like find out. Looked like it was in the 90s. Like like the 90s somewhere. But that was early days and I wasn't into that then. Oh, I wasn't even born in the 90s, so makes sense.

00;27;37;14 - 00;27;57;10
Speaker 1
But, yeah, that was a real cool look back at how the sport has progressed since then. Yeah. And the media behind the media behind it, and get a real good insight of what triathlon was like. And the hype around it and the hype around Conor. Yeah. It's huge. It's cool. Just as a triathlon fan to look at that and go, wow, like, that's what it used to be like that.

00;27;57;10 - 00;28;16;07
Speaker 1
Oh, I can understand where Jamie Riddle comes from now when he says, I saw Conor and I thought, that's the pinnacle, not the Olympics. Like, yeah, it's yeah, it's obviously been around longer. So I get I get that. Yeah. It's kind of like the birthplace of that crazy endurance. Yeah. I feel as if that's what set triathlon apart from other sports.

00;28;16;07 - 00;28;41;07
Speaker 1
It was like such a monumental achievement to complete an Iron Man who would do it. Yeah. That it's that especially that high. Especially in Kona too. Yeah. So hot. Yeah. What would you say then? You're like, what would you what did you first kind of media wise? Like look at in triathlon. Like who was like the first guy or the first magazine or anything like that?

00;28;41;09 - 00;29;03;27
Speaker 1
My mom was easily like the Brownlee brothers. I think because my first introduction to trough, was the 2012 London Olympics. So, that and then, like what? Kind of like, you know, maybe Craig Alexander, like, I remember seeing him on the front of, like, a tri mass. Oh, okay. The old reliable. Yeah. It was an all trials.

00;29;03;27 - 00;29;23;19
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So thanks to the power, I got Craig Alexander Crawley on a trial. Yeah, yeah. So that was my, like, kind of introduction into it right next to that V8. Yeah. Yeah. So I think I yeah I mean in terms of racing was definitely like the Brownlee at the Olympics. But then yeah the old the old tri mags or whatever cold.

00;29;23;19 - 00;29;42;04
Speaker 1
But like I think it was it was just traumatic. There was I think one called Australian Triathlete as well. Maybe it was that, but they, they used to be the old tri mags where you had like seeing him and it was like, Courtney Atkinson when he was real young, sort of popping up there, but oh yeah, I remember getting one and it had like this real mini.

00;29;42;04 - 00;29;59;15
Speaker 1
It was like a Garmin and it was the 50 cent coin, like, this is in a tri mag, like in advertising. I was like, that is so cool because it was like real tiny. It was only that big. And I was like, oh, mom, dad. Cool. I get that I got for Christmas. Like I still have it to this day.

00;29;59;15 - 00;30;21;04
Speaker 1
It's like off the back of the tri bag. Like I had to. I had a really embarrassing one because I had friends over that knew him. And this is it's embarrassing to say now because we're friends with him. But Kyle did a poster for one of them. I don't know which one it was, but there was, you know, those ones.

00;30;21;07 - 00;30;45;22
Speaker 1
You open the mag? Yeah. It was. It's a double spread. Yeah. You page. Yeah. And then you can hang it up on the poster. I did called poster on my because I himself always. Oh as a young kid when I was sort of that 14, 15, I was obsessed with Kyle World and like, it's funny that like friends with him today, but he did, and I think because I was very much like, he was a young talent coming up.

00;30;45;22 - 00;31;03;00
Speaker 1
He was pretty good with he's oh, he's always good with the social media. Like he had the. Yeah. The photos. Yeah. Yeah. He was a photographer and I obviously like copied him and bought my own cameras and stuff. And whatnot. I had this Kyle poster up my wall, and he had his tri suit down around his waist, and he would pour in a bottle of water on his head.

00;31;03;02 - 00;31;20;26
Speaker 1
It was like something like a 16 year old girl would have on her wall. But I had it. You? Yeah, I was pretty embarrassing. And I had some people like, what the hell is that? He's literally our friend. Like, that's funny. He's training down the road with me. I that's pretty impressive. They was he nerd. Try and he would have been 1819.

00;31;20;26 - 00;31;39;19
Speaker 1
They would've been pretty young at that time. I'll see if I can. We see if we can find it somewhere? We'll put it on the on the starboard wall, shirtless on my bedroom wall. That's funny. My favorite. You wouldn't know it because you don't really follow that kind of stuff, but. Breakfast with Bob. I love breakfast only because I've gone back and watched him.

00;31;39;20 - 00;31;59;13
Speaker 1
Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I loved him. No. My favorite part of him, he has, like, this little guy that I'm not little. Yeah, but the fat guy that can pull a ukulele, you have him as your, Strava before someone asked me the other day, and they'll like, was he Strava photo like this? This big hole. I'm guy.

00;31;59;17 - 00;32;22;16
Speaker 1
I'm like, they just like, oh you just a long story. Yeah. No that's cool. Well, we can't wait to, have it back in Kona. Everyone together? We'll go through our pics. Yeah. Who you going? Okay, I'll go see Charles Barkley. Yeah. Tyler Lane, Cat Matthews say, oh, I'm going to go Louis Charles Barkley as well. I'm a little bit nervous about it though, because she's done a lot of racing.

00;32;22;19 - 00;32;41;29
Speaker 1
And let me tell you 100 and I'm is a long way I one last time there. Yeah I'm still going to go losing Charles Barkley. And I'm going to go Cat Matthews in second. Yeah. And then I'm going to actually change it for what's on the ranch. I'm going to go Thailand. I'm in third. So I'm just going to salt your second third round because I didn't actually say talented on the starts list.

00;32;42;01 - 00;33;02;14
Speaker 1
Yeah I think so Cheryl. It's going to be really good. Yeah. The big thing that I want to say when Khan is back to men and women is the live stream. Not having so many ads where they just go, you know, buy venom race bike? I don't want to see so many ads chopping and changing and then they chop and change train the men and the women.

00;33;02;16 - 00;33;24;02
Speaker 1
I mean, I want to see like, yeah, I would love it if they had. I've, two separate streams or they like, they knew when something was actually happening in both races and then they can follow this for like a couple minutes and then they chop back to the women's. It's so it's so hard when two races are on one.

00;33;24;02 - 00;33;46;25
Speaker 1
No, but it's also like an eight hour race. It's so hard to like chop and change and make it exciting when it's eight hours. Like, that's true. There's not that much like I feel as if it was. But, with the men's this year without that many, ads, you know, falling your form. Swim goggles. Yeah. Bloody blood, nutrition from the feed or any other American brand that they have.

00;33;47;00 - 00;34;08;21
Speaker 1
Yeah, but that's my opinion. Yeah, I mean I it's it's tough to. Yeah. I guess they have to make money some way. Yeah. I mean we don't make that much. It would be hard to absolutely. You know keeps on entertaining for eight hours talking. Yeah. And there's only so much that happens. Yeah. Right. It's like oh he's made an attack call okay.

00;34;08;26 - 00;34;28;07
Speaker 1
What's next for the next seven hours he's going back to the back. Yeah. In other news or races going on, RoboCop woke up. Yeah. I feel like that's definitely just going to go under the radar. Yeah. I don't think anyone really knows or I mean, to me, if you're an athlete over there and you're able to get into it, right?

00;34;28;09 - 00;34;53;24
Speaker 1
Right. I mean, I say great timing. I've looked at the start list. Pretty red hot start list. So it's basically just like the people that aren't able to get on to like a world Champs team. Like there's some Frenchies here that are very like, this is where I kind of go. I'm very lucky that we're Aussie because these guys are some of the races that, like a Maxine Huberman burger and a Yana Cygwin that both won World Cups before.

00;34;54;01 - 00;35;15;22
Speaker 1
So yeah, think of like the results that they have as if they're an Aussie. They're in that. Yeah they're rising. They're rising world champs where they still can't get a star. It's crazy. It's almost like you got to win five World Cups and then get a podium that who means big. I heard today from Toby that he needed another win or something.

00;35;15;22 - 00;35;35;02
Speaker 1
Somewhere to even race a world Series. Yeah, which is crazy. Crazy? Yeah. We up another World Cup win? Yeah, we are pretty lucky. Well, we are, All right. For the men. Give us. You give us your top three. I'm going pudgy dos to toss. The Greek of. Absolutely. Yeah. Potatoes. I don't know it's first name, but potatoes.

00;35;35;04 - 00;36;02;02
Speaker 1
And then I'm going. So on the Norwegian metal Thorne. Yep. And then Antonio Serrat just thrown all the Spaniard. Yeah, yeah. Going demon. Now that I've just said it, I'm going to go see I'm actually. Oh I'm going to go Yana Cygwin. Yep. The French, I'm gonna go Yana Cygwin and then I'm going to go Vettel Thorne and then I'm going to go, now I'm going to go sorry.

00;36;02;05 - 00;36;26;02
Speaker 1
Yana. Cygwin potatoes and then Vettel form. Okay cool. In the women I'm gonna resign Nicole van K and Steinhauser. Let's get her first name. The, Italian. Yeah. Oh. Do you think the Italian is going to show out here? Yeah, in Rome, I reckon. Yeah, but last year the swim was canceled, I think. No no no, no, it was, it was on.

00;36;26;05 - 00;36;42;07
Speaker 1
I think they pushed it back for some reason. Oh, okay, I can't remember, but I remember it being like a really physical swim. Yeah. Especially in the men's. It was a really physical swim, and there was a lot of crashes because he'd been riding, on the hill. It was a bit of a hill, and they kind of went around the corner and a lot of crashes.

00;36;42;09 - 00;37;03;25
Speaker 1
So I'm going to go third place. I'm going to call van K, and then I'm probably just going to pick the same to you. I'm going to go to Larry Zain and then Steinhauser first. Okay. I think I'm just going reverse order there. Yeah. You have Steinhauser first, Zain second, and then vindicated. Cool. I think that might be Super League this weekend is or not.

00;37;03;27 - 00;37;22;22
Speaker 1
Oh, fuck. Who knows? I've kind of given up on super. Yeah, I can't remember. Sorry. Anyway, there probably is. Yeah. I'm not too sure. Was there a Frenchie last weekend? Let's not talk about that. We haven't. If there's a Super League, good luck to the table or anything. Super League, but we haven't really talked yet. Yeah, wrap it up there.

00;37;23;00 - 00;37;40;27
Speaker 1
Yeah. There's not much news, really, in this week's triathlon world. We hope to. We hope to bring more, next week we're going to try, get a real solid breakdown of world champs so we can have the juniors under 20 threes. And we've got the seniors a late, so we'll give a real good breakdown of that.

00;37;40;27 - 00;37;56;22
Speaker 1
We'll do our research and, give you, how we think races are going to play out. How many weeks? Two worlds. So it's not obviously not this weekend. It starts on like a Wednesday. Like, I know the junior men's are rising on like a Wednesday, so. So we'll get it out the week before. Yeah. Yeah. We'll get it out the way before.

00;37;56;22 - 00;38;18;18
Speaker 1
Yeah. So we'll do a breakdown next week. And then we'll announce some exciting things that we got in the pipeline. Yep. So the unfunded stay tuned is past nice. On off lucky. Thank you everyone for listening again. This is episode 28. Lions going to get swimming. This is episode 27 of the unfunded podcast, brought to you by official be.

00;38;18;20 - 00;38;40;06
Speaker 1
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00;38;40;10 - 00;38;40;19
Speaker 1
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