The Stand Outdoors

In this episode, Dottie Hayes, co-founder of The Stand Outdoors and Mike's wife of 47 years, shares her journey from filming hunts to becoming a passionate hunter herself. She discusses the unique challenges women face in hunting, offers practical tips on gear and preparation, and explains how hunting together has strengthened their marriage.

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What is The Stand Outdoors?

Our mission is to take a stand for Christ while hunting from tree stands and enjoying God’s great outdoors. On every adventure, if you look for it, God will teach you something about Himself. That’s what we want to share, a show about awesome hunting and an awesome creator who made it all possible.

Speaker 1 0:00
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Speaker 1 0:20
Dave, welcome back to the stand outdoors podcast, the show where faith and the great outdoors come together. My name is Dave Baker, along with the founder of the stand outdoors, Mike Hayes, and today we have a very special guest, the co founder of the standout doors, Dottie Hayes, Mike's wife,

Speaker 2 0:48
yeah, Dottie Hayes, Mike's wife, oh, my goodness, 47 years. That's crazy. And, yeah, it's been great. And Dottie, you know, we started this thing together, and Dottie started basically just filming me, but she loves the outdoors. You know, her dad was my mentor, my best friend. And we started. We decided we wanted to do this and and our passions were the outdoors and and the Gospel, you know, sharing Christ. So we put them together, and Dottie was with me right from the very beginning. Matter of fact, we used to call it the stand with Mike and Dottie, right? And then we decided to change it to the stand outdoors, because it was it would make it clear what it was about, right? And Dottie didn't mind. You know, she was okay with it, but, yeah, she's a special person in my life. You don't

Unknown Speaker 1:46
throw it well as well.

Speaker 1 1:47
Throw it to you. As you know, we have a special guest in the studio today, the co founder of the standout doors.com Dottie Hayes, and there are some unique challenges for women. Mike in the hunt area. It's a was in Ben for years kind of a male dominated sport, I should say, sure, but more and more women are getting involved in hunting today than ever before. Yeah, and your wife is no exception.

Speaker 2 2:13
Yeah, she, she, she's here with me now, and we're glad she is, yeah, there she is. Yeah, so, Dottie, we wanted to get, you know, some tips from you about, you know what? Let's start out with some of the main things that you like you know about hunting. You know, as a woman,

Speaker 3 2:34
I think one of the main things that I like about hunting is being together as a couple, not just that, but even getting away as a couple, going on trips, you know, getting away from the normal, you know, flow of things at home for us, we have 10 grandkids, and, yeah, we are super busy, especially this time of year. In the summer, we have a pool and a hot tub, and the kids are over practically every day, and it's nice to look forward to the fall when the weather starts to change. And Mike and I can you know, we have a steady trip that we usually take every spring that we look forward to, and that's our turkey trip. And we have this little yellow house up in the mountains that we just love going to. And we're up there for about three four days, and it's just nice to get away with your husband and spend some time out in nature. You know, just having that in common with each other is just really special. Another thing that I really love about that Turkey trip in particular is, I think 50% of the time we've gotten a bird each time.

Unknown Speaker 3:42
Yeah, I love Ben about 500

Speaker 3 3:46
I love being able to harvest the turkey and cook it up within hours of getting it for dinner that night. We've done that before, and it's so good, and it's just such a neat experience, coming right from being in the woods and going to the kitchen and

Unknown Speaker 4:01
table.

Speaker 2 4:05
Oh my dude doesn't see the freezer or nothing. It goes right there. It's still flopping a little bit in the frying pan,

Speaker 3 4:13
but we've done that, and that's been really special a couple times, even when I was not hunting years ago, I remember you and dad getting a turkey, and we were camping, I think, at the time, and we marinated it and put it over the fire. Remember on the Oh, yeah, that's right, that was really fun, yeah, but that's a that's a really big plus for me. I enjoy that, and not just the turkey, but the venison. And I love the health aspect of being able to go and get animals that and harvest animals that are, you know, they have grown up in the woods, and they're, they've not been processed in any way and and the health aspect is really good. We have a family of three daughters, and they just, they love that idea, too. So we're, we whatever animals we get, nothing. Does to waste?

Speaker 2 5:00
No, no, we got to get all kind of does, you know, I don't get enough. Those are always eating our, our meat, but, but, yeah, that's, that's incredible. We do enjoy that. And and upstate Pennsylvania, it's so beautiful. I remember when your dad breathtaking, my mentor, who's in the spring especially, yeah, but I remember, your dad took me up there. I'm a Florida boy. I was come from Tampa, Florida. Met Dottie down there and at Bible College. And for I knew it, she made me a snow bird, but, but I just fell in love with this state. Dad took me up to Upstate Pennsylvania, around Bradford County. I thought I died and went to heaven. I mean, I really did. I mean, all the colors, everything I said, this has been around all my life, you know, I had flat Florida, you know, and, but, but just being together and enjoying that incredible beauty You don't even a bird is a bonus, you know, yeah,

Speaker 3 5:55
another main thing that I love about hunting is it forces me to be Still. That is a big deal for me, a busy body, I got to be doing things be productive. And I know that there's so much in scripture that talks about, you know, being still and pondering and meditating and being in nature when you're hunting, you have to be still or you're not going to see anything, you know, so you have to be still and and just seeing the beauty around you is it just prompts you to go into a grateful state with the Lord, and just, you know, forces you to be still. And watching nature is just, to me, it's just the perfect way of being able to praise the Lord and for all that he's done and all that he's blessed us

Speaker 2 6:45
with. You know, I remember when you were, when you were, when you first started hunting with and it's so neat to take somebody that hasn't been because you were just enthralled and watching nature come alive, and not know that you're there. I know, yeah, you're going, what's that? No, she's hearing mice crawling under the leaves. Yeah. And the fall, my hearing isn't as good

Speaker 3 7:09
underneath the leaves. And I could, I could hear the mice like or the moles, or whatever they were, and Mike couldn't necessarily hear it. His hearings not as great

Unknown Speaker 7:16
as mine. Take it easy. Get back on topic here.

Speaker 3 7:20
But your eyes are really good, like, you have a trained eye, so you were able to see a lot.

Speaker 2 7:25
Yeah, it's funny. I would see after one, you know, looking a deer for so long, I would see him out there, and she's going, what are you looking at? I don't see him, like, right there. Look at that tree just to the right of that one tree. And then she go, oh my goodness, there he is, you know. And you get tuned in as a hunter to pick up that flicker of the ear or the tail or whatever, and you pick them out, and a non Hunter is just and then when you see it, I remember you. It's just so exciting. It made it more exciting for me just watching her like

Speaker 3 7:52
you're defying nature, you know? Because, yeah, animals are typically afraid of humans. But when you go out there and you camouflage and you're either up high or you're being real still, they you get birds that land on your blind window and all kinds of things that are so special. Another really thing that I love about hunting is the preparation. Going to all these festivals. We go to these festivals, to forksville festival, that's a big, I don't know if it's the biggest one in the world, or at least the country. I don't know, yeah, but it's a three day event, event that really helps you to tune in your bow, you know, get everything in order for the hunting season, so that you can make most ethical shot possible. And it's a lot of fun, you know, the camaraderie with everybody you know, going out and having meals together.

Speaker 2 8:47
Yeah, we go out with with Joe and Joey, father and son, team. We've been together with for 40 years, or whatever. I don't know how long it's been.

Speaker 3 8:56
Special relationship, yeah, with them, and we just have so much fun. Another main thing that I love about hunting is now that we have grandkids, is getting them involved. I went out hunting with Ty a couple times, and are blind, and it's just his first time to see in his face. You know? I think we did have a bird that landed on the window of the blind, oh yeah, yeah. And he was, oh, he just, he's the type of kid that just really is meant to be a hunter. He loves nature. The Lord has prepared him in advance. It seems like to be, you know, along with us for this ride. And

Speaker 2 9:31
I love that. He's, he's only seven. He just got his first I think he's eight now. Oh yeah, he just turned it. He has his first buck. Just got his first buck last season. Couple does. That's the only time he could get a buck tag, you know, as a as a mentored Hunter, and he got a doe before that. Yeah, next year he gets this nine point buck and with a cross, with a crossbow, yeah, and then he goes out and shoots a doe. The same year. Was whacking and stacking, and I didn't have anything, you know, it's like, but his name is Ty, Michael. I call him to Michael, you know, you know he was,

Speaker 1 10:09
you have a video, don't you, of one of the kills? Oh yeah, you're all waiting on the porch. I love that.

Speaker 2 10:13
Oh yeah. We did a little clip, first of the harvest, and then we, then we, you know, just when we, when we brought it up to the house, and that's what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 10:22
It was really cool with the whole family. Oh, on the standout doors, calm. It's fabulous. And then

Speaker 2 10:27
the actual video of the hunt was great, yeah. And, you know, that's on there too under you just go to the go to YouTube, and you'll see it on, on videos, yeah? But, but, yeah.

Speaker 3 10:39
So those are probably the main things that I can think of that I really love about hunting, there's a couple drawbacks that I think, not necessarily drawbacks, but just things that you want to be prepared for.

Unknown Speaker 10:52
Maybe some of the challenges is

Speaker 3 10:56
being in the stand or in the blind you want to be comfortable for a woman, to me, that's really important. I know for men, their passion sometimes, and even for some women, is so great that they'll, they'll put up with a branch in their side while they're in the tree or poking them, and they can stay out there for hours. But for me, I have to be really comfortable. My seat has to be comfortable the way that stand is placed in the tree so that I don't have, like, a big knot in my back from the from the tree. I have to be comfortable. I have to be in a position where I can sit for several hours and not be sidetracked by, you know, my body not not feeling comfortable. And then also, you started.

Speaker 2 11:37
You started, really, when we started the ministry, like, little over 10 years ago and and you were just filming, yeah, beginning. And she is the greatest camera person. Yeah, I've

Speaker 3 11:47
watched enough, honey. Yeah, right, that I kind of know what.

Speaker 2 11:52
You're so calm. I can't believe how calm she is. I'm freaking out when I'm filming you. You get more nervous, I do. I get more nervous. But she's so calm. And, yeah, but that's how you got started. But then you wanted to, you know, shoot,

Speaker 3 12:05
yeah. Then I started to get a little bit of a hunting fever. I wanted to give it a try, and I enjoy it. I wouldn't say that it's my main passion, but I do love it and, but I love the filming part too. That's that I would say it's, for me, it's 5050, for those two things. But you know, being in the woods is, is

Speaker 2 12:25
just that I love when you love to film, because I don't have to make two shots. Yeah? You know, getting the camera shot, and

Speaker 3 12:32
you've done a great job, though. Oh, it's hard, yeah, filming yourself. Another, another challenge would be blinds, because some blinds, well, you love the blind. I do love the blinds, mostly because you're so concealed. And I'm a fidgeter. I just, I have a hard time sitting still for long periods of time, whether it be in my CEO but I'm I, it's just my personality. I can feel it within me.

Speaker 2 12:57
She wants to knit and stuff, or, what is it? Crochet? Yeah, I can't do that. I let her crochet only camouflage, though,

Unknown Speaker 13:07
I have made a couple count.

Speaker 1 13:10
There are some long hours that I mean, you might as well my wife would be doing. Yeah,

Speaker 3 13:14
yes. And the blind is a great opportunity for you know, if you're a little restless and you're or you're having a night where you just know you're not gonna be able to sit still, your body's bothering you and you gotta, you know, move around. But they're wonderful for that. They're wonderful for the weather. If it's raining or no Ben leading, it gives you the opportunity to be out there. Matter of fact, I got my first buck in the rain. And we were surprised to go that night, and we decided to go and be in the

Speaker 2 13:47
episode two, I believe, right? Yeah, episode two, see Dottie get her first buck.

Speaker 1 13:51
Those are always the nights when you don't feel like going. They're always great night. Well, you know, we

Speaker 2 13:55
heard a buddy of mine got a his biggest buck, and it was in the rain the day, the day, day before. Yeah, we saw the church, and he said, they they move in the rain and and so let's go. Prompted us to try it. Okay, we'll go on the blind. And sure enough, they moved early. We were sitting there early eating potato chips, and we were thinking we had plenty of time, and he pops out

Speaker 3 14:17
surprises, but thought he was ready, yep. And I think I did give them get a good shot? Oh, it was a great shot. Yeah, yeah. So the blinds are really they can pose a challenge in a way, where you can't see as far, because when you're in a tree stand, you're up above everything you can see out above the branches and and and further distance in the blind, you're limited with what you can see. You can only basically see, you know, in front of you and wherever you've cut out some branches and stuff, but it's still a great way to be able to hunt in all kinds of how about clothing? Because I remember that was, that's a big deal with clothing. Well, Mike, you knew in advance what to set me up with, clothing wise, because that was so. Something I didn't know a whole lot about. Layering is important, you know, because you can go out with warmer weather, and you stay out till dark, and then the sun goes down and you're cold. So you got to have layers to, you know, take things off, put things back on, vests, hats, you know, all those things are important. I keep them in my backpack,

Speaker 2 15:16
but having the good stuff because, you know, husbands, if you want your wives to hunt with. Yes, you got to make sure that their experience, that they have a good experience, like you said, with a good tree stand, comfortable seats, good, yeah, foot warmers, all that stuff,

Speaker 3 15:30
you know, waterproof boots, all those things are really important, and it's a little bit of an investment in the beginning. But I'll tell you what, it lasts for years, that clothing is made very well, and it'll last you a good long

Speaker 1 15:42
time. And ladies who don't like to go out and just, you know, do some shopping, you know, Dick's Sporting, Oh, that's right. I mean, that's right, that's gotta be a huge

Speaker 2 15:52
blast. Yeah, we go to Cabela's, you know, and have a whole day of it, you know, eat some buffalo burgers.

Unknown Speaker 15:58
Things start going in the cart. You're going wait a minute,

Speaker 3 16:01
yeah, what's that? Yeah. Another thing too, that is a challenge is you want to make sure that you have the right equipment, especially if you're using a bow, a gun, whatever it is that you're using, you want it to be fitted for you. Borrowing something from someone else, where it's not fitted for you is for me. It's I don't have the confidence. I don't have the you know, I'm, I just need it to be fitted for my body, my bow, you know, the poundage, the draw, all those things that you know are important, the site, all the things,

Speaker 2 16:32
yeah, and to get it. And if you're, you know, if you don't have someone, if you're a woman out there, and you don't have someone like a husband, to show you whatever I was blessed to have. Your dad, he was my mentor. And you know, I encourage you go to an archery shop, make sure that you're fitted right to your bow or whatever you want to use, because it just makes all the difference in the world. Matter of fact, we go to that festival Dottie mentioned every stinking year since she was a little girl, since you've been shooting with us? Oh yeah, she gets there and she out shoots every one of us, all three of us, all three guys. She's incredible. She shoots that thing. I think it's you actually, she actually Robin hooded, one of my arrows. Our first trip, our first trip she get, you know, I put it right in the bullseye, you know,

Speaker 1 17:25
maybe she should be in charge of this show. I tell you what switch roles

Unknown Speaker 17:30
her

Speaker 1 17:32
video, and she could be the main exactly, but

Speaker 2 17:35
I think I got you two set up. You know, I did. Should have got, I should have messed up the draw something so she wouldn't be out she No, I'm just kidding. Okay, a couple

Speaker 3 17:47
of things that are challenges for the hunt is make sure women that you use the restroom before you go out to hunt. That's true for everybody, but it's a lot. It's a lot more difficult for a woman in the woods in that way, just make sure you use the restroom before you go out, because you're going to be out there for a few hours and and don't drink a big old glass of water before you head out. It's not a good idea. And also bring cough drops. A couple times, I've, I've been caught where I've had a tickle in my throat, and I've you know, needed a cough drop, because you don't want to be coughing right with that right before that. You know, dust comes with the the deer that are coming out and and scare them away with a cough, for sure. So those are some of the challenges that I have experienced in the woods.

Speaker 1 18:50
You know, as hunters, we spend a lot of time in God's creation. It's beautiful. You heard earlier Dottie and Mike talking about some of their experiences together and experiencing it as husband and wife. And today, we're going to dive into the question, how does hunting affect a marriage? Mike,

Speaker 2 19:07
that's an important thing. I'm gonna let Dottie do most of the talking here. But

Speaker 1 19:11
wise man, yeah. Wise Man,

Speaker 3 19:15
yes, no, I do have some things to say that I think are important. How does hunting affect a marriage? Hmm, well, if you're not hunting together as a couple, communication is huge. It's It's the key. Because in the beginning, you know, when we got married and moved to Pennsylvania, my father, who was an avid hunter, and I grew up with that in the family, um, turned mike on to hunting. And Mike just took to hunting like a fish takes to water. He just loved it. He loved it so much. He just, you know, like he said about, you know, upstate Pennsylvania, how beautiful it was, and he was just enthralled with it.

Speaker 2 19:59
And I. And I was your dad's first son, that's right, because he had three daughters,

Speaker 3 20:03
and he had, yep, you were like his first son, and baby, you were right there with him, you know, and all that that he loved you loved, you know, you both love the Lord. That was that was so beautiful for me to have that as my dad and my husband would be out there fellowship, and I knew that that was a big plus, but you had hunting that you loved together, and that was so special. But we did, did have some struggles, because with me not hunting and not, you know, being a part of it and home with the kids, it was, it was hard. We had some issues in the beginning. That's why I say communication is key without, you know, you got to control your emotions sometimes, when you start to get frustrated with his time away, in order to talk about it in a positive way and get the results that that are necessary. You know to have that. You know that unity in your marriage, because there's going to be all kinds of things through, you know, your marriages that are hard to deal with, and when you have different interests, it can pull you in different directions. And you don't want that to happen. So talking about it is really important. You want to agree upon how much time you know, he spends in the woods with, you know, without the family. How much money is spent on, on, you know, this hobby that he, he loves. I think all those things are very important and they need to be talked about,

Speaker 2 21:32
yeah, and that that's something that I was just going nuts with your dad. And we were, I was young and dumb, and Dottie was actually happy that I was, you know, because I moved from my family in Florida and came up here with hers. And so she was so glad that her dad and me were like, best friends, yeah, and so. And she loved that. But then it became like, where's my husband? And so I wish I would have handled that better, but the Lord, over the years,

Speaker 3 22:02
you're growing, and when you're growing, you start out in a state where you, you know you want to get out of and go into a state where you are able to work through things. And that's kind of where, you know, we had to realize that. And I the Lord gave us a lot of wisdom and gave you

Speaker 2 22:20
a lot of patience. But, but, but for all for young couples out there, you know that where the wife is not hunting, you know the husband is honey, you know, you got to talk about it. Don't do what I did. And get so, you know, excited about it, that you just go out there and forget about, you know, your wife and what she's thinking about all this communicate. It's real important. But then you

Speaker 3 22:47
started hunting with you, hunting with me. That happened pretty much after the kids were out of the house. Mike and I, you know, we love spending time together, we really do. And we've been very blessed that way. And I feel like 47 years, yeah, we just celebrate our 47 Yeah, that was just the other day. That's amazing. And how can that only 39 That's right.

Unknown Speaker 23:08
I don't know how

Unknown Speaker 23:09
that works. I'm only 31

Unknown Speaker 23:10
age, right?

Speaker 3 23:13
But when the girls are all married and out of the house, I wanted to, you know, we both wanted to do some more things together, and hunting was definitely one that I could participate in that would bring us, you know, closer with our time schedule and closer just with things in common, you know, and having things in common is really special, because you get to create memories that are in common. You get to talk about it. You get to reflect back on this experience and that experience, and it just kind of it just fills in a lot of gaps in in life as it totally enhances your marriage. Yeah, it's really a neat thing. And in the beginning, I was only filming, like Mike said, but then I started to get an interest in hunting, especially after one of the festivals, and seeing that I could pull back the bow and make a decent shot and and it gave me a little more confidence for that. But Mike is just so full of joy when I get an animal and and

Speaker 2 24:14
I get more excited about her getting one. I know you do. I can hardly keep the camera still, you know, I gotta put it on a tripod.

Speaker 3 24:21
But you know that those are the things that really bond you together as a couple, and and are really special, even

Speaker 2 24:28
the hard work. I mean, Dottie. Dottie has always been a tree climber. It's funny, you tell me, yeah, you got in trouble.

Speaker 3 24:37
I would take a handful of boards from the garage and a hand pocket full of nails and a hammer, and I'd sneak back in the woods and I'd hammer one step climb up, hammer another step up, until I was like 1520, feet in the air. And I just loved it. On a windy day, I just sit up there, and the tree would rock back and forth. You were a tomboy. I was a tomboy. She

Speaker 2 24:56
would go up. I couldn't believe how well she climbed these trees. So you. It helped me put in the trees, yes,

Speaker 3 25:01
or film you doing. And, I mean, there's stuff I would do, definitely

Speaker 2 25:05
doing it and just being together, even for the hard work. And you and I have done it, you know, Dave, putting it together. And I she didn't do some of the hard stuff we did, but, but we put in that stand where it said, takes four guys. We did it with just two of us. We're just animals, right? Well, listen, you too.

Speaker 1 25:22
You guys have grandkids, obviously, and I know for me, there's no greater joy than to have our grandkids part of our hunt experience. And you guys have already had that. We talked about it earlier with i So what's more joy? What kind of joy does that bring both of you to see your grandkids involved in this

Speaker 3 25:41
unspeakable, isn't it unspeakable? It's so special and and when one grandkid does, we have 10 of them, and there are, there's, there's, they're all around the same age in clusters, because we've had 10 grandkids within nine years, and the the oldest few in the family, they all like are so close in age, and we have a couple that are up and coming that I believe are gonna really have an interest. Also, a couple of them are girls, and I'll be able to be a part of that with them. And I'm really looking forward to that, seeing what becomes of that. See if they if they like it, you know, catch the fever. We already know. Ty is in the he's in the

Speaker 1 26:21
he's in the camp. He's, he's in the camp. Yeah, already he's in the camp. He's officially been anointed. Yes,

Speaker 3 26:29
it's, it's, actually, it's hunting with your husband. There's no right or wrong. It's, it's neither right nor wrong to hunt with your husband. And have that as a common thing, I feel like if, if you don't, you know the the key is communication, and if you do, the key is communication. But I would encourage women to give it a try, because may surprise you how close it will bring you as a couple, it's um, like I said, You'll have so much to discuss. Conversation will not be, you know, slim pickings. It'll really enhance your time together.

Speaker 1 27:09
And even even if you just go with him or her, yeah, symmetry, it can work the other way as well, where she's really into hunting and you're not, yeah, just go and sit with him, even if you're not hunting, yeah, maybe if you're not filming anything, just experience it with them, correct? I think that would be huge for women or men who don't love hunting but want to spend time with their spouses. I think it's great to be together in those experiences. I mean, think about it, you go on vacation together and you experience things together that you've never sit on the beach, right? Nature? Yeah. So I think it's great that that's an option for

Speaker 3 27:44
spouses that make her comfortable. That's important.

Speaker 2 27:47
And, you know, a comfortable seat, that's right. I wanted to bring up to how, you know, it's not good for man to be alone. You know, the Bible starts out with that, right? But isn't it neat how God made man? He knew man would not be it not, it's not, it's not like he didn't know that. But he made man first, and he made him totally alone so that man could feel that need that he had and watch the Heavenly Father provide him with the woman, you know. See, God could have made him together at the same time, and he never would have felt that need. And there's another verse that I want to look at you Well, you had one.

Speaker 3 28:27
Well, I mentioned before about it forces you to be still out in the woods. And like I said in the Bible, there's in Psalms, 4610, Be still and know that I am God. And when you're out there being still, and you're focusing on all that's around you there is to me. I just have to praise the Lord. I have to be I have to thank him for all that he's done. And that leads me into such a state of of thanking him for all my blessings, my my family, my my grandchildren, you know, my home, just all the things that he's provided for me, and it just puts me in a really great state. I leave the woods feeling like I've been at a retreat almost.

Speaker 2 29:12
And that, that other verse that we talked about, Ecclesiastes, four, nine through 12. I want to read that one, because it's really good. Says Two are better than one because they have they have a good return for their labor. If either of them falls down, one can help the other up, but pity anyone who falls and has no one to help them up. Also, if you if, if two lie down together, they will keep warm. But how can one keep warm alone, though one may be overpowered, two can defend themselves. A cord of three strands is not quickly broken, and you notice how it says three strands, and it's talked about two the whole time. Of course, we know who the third strand is, and that's the Lord Jesus. Is Christ, and it's not easily broken. And you know, the Lord has to be the center of your lives. And that's that's the main thing. And I think just being out in his creation together and experiencing that together will enhance your marriage. So give it a shot.

Unknown Speaker 30:17
Yeah, literally,

Speaker 1 30:20
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Speaker 2 31:34
and remember, stand firm in the faith and keep targeting the truth. You.