We Brewed A Beer!

In this episode of The DC Beer Show, hosts Michael Stein, Jacob Berg, and Jordan Harvey kick off the New Year with a slew of upcoming events in the local craft beer scene.

Jake sits down with Austin Eason and Justin Broady from Strange Fruit Brewing to discuss their rapid growth and collaboration with DC Beer to brew a Hazy Pale Ale with the help of Favio Garcia at Dynasty. They share their experiences with different beer styles, including their expansion and distribution partnerships, and plans for future beer releases. 

The hosts pay tribute to Erika Goedrich and the impact of her Craft Beer Cellar on the community. 

Tune in for a lively discussion on the evolving beer landscape and the exciting developments in the craft brewing world.

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Host

Jacob Berg

Jake’s beer education began when his dad brought home a 6-pack of Brooklyn Lager in the mid-90s. It was love at first sip.

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Jordan Harvey

As a born and raised Georgian, lover of music, and HBCU advocate, Jordan’s affinity for craft beer kicked off after being exposed to the craft beer scene in Pennsylvania and the legendary beer scene in Europe.

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Mike Stein

Michael Stein is President of Lost Lagers, Washington, DC’s premier beverage research firm. His historic beers have been served at the Smithsonian’s National Museum of American History and the Polish Ambassador’s residence.

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Richard Fawal

President of DC Beer Media LLC and Publisher of DCBeer.com and The DC Beer Show

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Jacob Berg [00:00:05]:
Welcome. We are at DC beer. Dcbeer.com. You know what to do. Jordan Harvey, what are you drinking from this lovely, not at all Wet, rainy.

Jordan Harvey [00:00:17]:
Well, you know, I thought I was just starting the New Year off kinda how I ended the last year. So, just having a wonderful, tasty 4th anniversary, other half beer. They've, they've been releasing a lot of their other half anniversary hazings here. Over the past, several weeks, and they have been wetting my whistle, if you will. So, enjoying that and, making 2024 as filled with hops as beer. 23 was. Mister Stein, what's in your Stein tonight?

Michael Stein [00:00:47]:
I'm enjoying Bristol export ale, Which is a beer I brewed with Favio Garcia, Dynasty Brewing Company. We brewed it for Mount Vernon, and we threw a ton of hops. We threw hops in the kettle. We threw hops in the hop back. We dry hop the beer, but the beer is so malty and we use so much malt here. The hops are just disappearing and losing to the malt, which is in fact a good thing because the malt is doing this wonderful, like, Courvoisier brandy figgy stone fruit thing, and it's just it's really hitting. Here. Jake, what are you hitting on this evening?

Jacob Berg [00:01:29]:
I am gonna go even higher gravity. I had a wild east dark mild earlier here. Well, I was making dinner, but having eaten digested dinner, I figured it's time to move the heavier stuff. I have here, 1 8 Distillings, untitled whiskey number 13. It is a, sourced, although I don't know from where, it's The high rye bourbon has been aged in sherry and perhaps also cognac casks. And so, you know, rye gives you, like, a little kind of peppery snap, a little bit of dill, baking spice, and then, you wanna hit it, with those sweeter notes, here. Kinda balanced things out. But, yeah, 10 years old.

Jacob Berg [00:02:12]:
Nice. You get a little bit of oak. You still get, like, that nice kinda, like, damp grain character. It sucks that 18 isn't around anymore, but it's good that I have these bottles. So thank you, Sandy. Thank you, Alex, the distiller over there. Here. Good good times.

Jacob Berg [00:02:29]:
Alright. We got a couple events coming up. And, Mike, I believe yours is happening

Michael Stein [00:02:37]:
January 18th.

Jacob Berg [00:02:39]:
There we go.

Michael Stein [00:02:40]:
Thursday, January 18th, We are doing a panel discussion on reviving historic beer. We're calling the panel Mount Vernon's Dynasty. And the reason we're calling at that is because we have Steve Bayshore from Mount Vernon, who is the distiller at Mount Vernon, and we have Favio Garcia, who's the owner and head brewer at Dynasty. And at Church Key, we're gonna be discussing the styles that Favio and I have been brewing. Favio brewed the majority of the beer, but we have one style that I love is Bristol export ale, and I've been DMing and emailing all my English, here. Irish and Scottish friends like, hey. Have you had Bristol export? And they're like, Stein, what are you talking about? So I'm looking forward 13th. Is that right?

Jacob Berg [00:03:37]:
That is correct. Not Friday 13th, but Saturday 13th over at other half, and this is part of the women's brew culture club. Shout out to Brandy. Under the weather, hopefully, Better by then.

Michael Stein [00:03:53]:
We love you, Brandy.

Jordan Harvey [00:03:54]:
Yeah. Yeah.

Jacob Berg [00:03:57]:
Beer attribute sensory tasting. And so it's a ticketed event, and it's designed and we're gonna say this. This is wild and crazy. Some beers are going to be dosed and spiked with off flavors, and then Matt Splain, friend of the site, Other half GM is going to lead this guided tasting and learning experience, and so we'll peek out detect. Oh, hey. Why does this beer taste a little bit off? What's a little bit of the chemistry behind that? Why does this beer taste a little bit like butter, which speaking of Bristol export ale, that would be fine by me in a Bristol export ale, probably less so in a hazy IPA for today.

Jordan Harvey [00:04:47]:
Would agree with that. Yeah.

Jacob Berg [00:04:48]:
Yeah. But, again, Saturday 13th at other half Details, dcbeer.com, and tickets to the dynasty event at Church Key. Also, that information is dcb.com, access to our events page. Those are the 2 big January events except for, here. We've got one more. The biggest, bestest January event is coming up. Two box for emphasis. Lou lets you know that we're being serious here.

Jacob Berg [00:05:21]:
We brewed a beer at Dynasty with Strange Fruit Brewing. I'm here with Austin Easton and Justin Brody from Strange Fruit Brewing. Welcome back to the show. Last we were here here. Chatting about 6, 7 months ago, you all had brewed an IPA over at DCBRAU, and it was available at mile 20 in Herndon. What's changed since then?

Justin Broady [00:05:49]:
Where to start? A lot has changed, I guess. We've since released another beer, German Pilsner, and we're in about almost 40 places now. So we've, we've been making some moves throughout the summer and, on into the winter. And one of those big places, it's total wine. I know we'll talk about that a little bit later. But, yes, we are available at a lot more places than mile 20. Our beer is still available there. There's still huge beer.

Justin Broady [00:06:17]:
And everything of us there and, so appreciate it. But, yes, made a lot of progress.

Jacob Berg [00:06:23]:
You are licensed not just to brew beer under contract at various facilities. You're looking for a taproom at some point, but you're also a distribution company, and you can sell in both DC and Virginia. How'd you go from 1 place in Herndon, Ear. Shouts to mile 20. It's up 40. What's the secret?

Austin Eason [00:06:46]:
Man, I mean, there's a lot of things, but, I mean, Justin can probably attest to this More than I can, since he's boots on the ground, but, you know, a lot of it is, you know, support from the folks that we here. Have in the area. You know, I although I'm on the West Coast, I I'm from the East Coast. I have a ton of friends beer. Saw out there, and they all came to the party. They're really excited to support us. Justin, you know, has lived there his entire life and has a ton of support. And So I think for us, it's, wanting to get more beer into people's hands.

Austin Eason [00:07:18]:
And, you know, from the get go, once we pivoted away from having A brick and mortar location. We knew that, okay, we have the support locally, but how do we get more beer in more people's hands and and accomplish the mission that we, You know, and set out to do. So, Justin, I know you have a lot more context to add there.

Justin Broady [00:07:37]:
Just to piggyback on that, a lot of it's come from, relationships, working in the brewery industry, having some friends at bartend, that are that have just made, you know, straight introductions and stuff for us. Some of it has been us just dropping off samples, following up, you know, things like that, but, it's everything's been well received. And, Now there's been a few places that are saying, you know, hey. Why don't you go across the street? I know those guys like to support crab breweries, and, Uh-huh. You know, so they would, you know, definitely wanna pick your product up. So a lot of it's been word-of-mouth. Some of it's been Just strapping the boots up in the grassroots campaign. Just dropping samples off and following up.

Justin Broady [00:08:19]:
So

Jacob Berg [00:08:20]:
Cool. Alright. Can you say a little bit more about total wine? Because that is a very large account. You know? It's it's one thing to be at mile 20. It's one thing to be at Dominion Department of Beer and Wine, but Total Vine, large chain, Many locations.

Justin Broady [00:08:39]:
Yeah. That was, definitely huge for us, and, that relationship kinda came about. We were doing a tasting at Barrow and Bushel, And, a lady came and, tried our subtle nod, and she really liked it. And she worked for Total Wine out of Maryland. We exchanged email addresses, shot a couple emails back and forth, and she put me right in contact with the people to get us to the door. So right now, we're in all 11 locations in Northern Virginia, all the way from Gainesville, all the way down to here. Arlington. We'll be up in Virginia Beach, Richmond, Williamsburg, Portsmouth, Petersburg, all that stuff, over the next Couple weeks.

Justin Broady [00:09:19]:
So this has definitely been a huge account for us. They, they kinda cleaned out our cleaned out our coal box. So Total Wine, 11 locations all around Northern Virginia. You can order it for delivery or for pickup. And, yeah, hopefully, we can get some more beers in the door. We'll be doing some tastings and stuff Over the next few weeks and throughout the, throughout the year with our beer, so you guys can check, our social media accounts thank for those.

Jacob Berg [00:09:46]:
Excellent. And so that's Strange Fruit Brewing. Check their social media. So have you all had to scale up a bit in terms of beer brewing. If total wine has come knocking, are you brewing more and larger batches in the area?

Austin Eason [00:10:03]:
Great question. We were just talking about that earlier today. We were talking about, you know, the partnerships that we have with, You know, the the mile twenties of the world and all the way up to total wine, and, there are a couple other things that we have in the works. And so we, You know, kinda come back with one another and and decided that there there is a need for us to, have a faster brewing schedule Because we do need to keep up with demand from our larger partners who we hope, decide to take, You know, have larger orders, and we we're confident that will be the case. So we need to be able to meet that demand with the supply. And so, brewing more at a larger scale is is what we're going into 2024 thinking about, pretty heavily, and we'll take action on here in the next couple weeks, actually.

Justin Broady [00:10:52]:
It's a good problem to have. It's a good problem to have, and, we're just rolling with the punches, and, our beer has been Really successful. The demand's been really high, so now we just have to meet that with the supply.

Jacob Berg [00:11:05]:
So speaking of supply, we, as in DC Beer and you, Strange Fruit, have a collaboration coming out.

Justin Broady [00:11:12]:
Yes. Yes. Very excited. Excited for this.

Jacob Berg [00:11:15]:
You wanna tell the good folks at home a little bit more About this? How it how it came to be?

Justin Broady [00:11:21]:
Yeah. So, I was just hanging out. I think it was around Thanksgiving, and mister Stein, shot myself and Dynasty an email and just told us about how you guys used to brew, beers and do collaborations and everything pre pandemic, And you guys were looking forward to getting kinda back to that. And, we shot some ideas back and forth. We met up at Dynasty, chopped it up with Favio, Sampled a lot of beers and, kinda, you know, decided, like, yes, this could definitely be a partnership that we want to, move forward with on both ends. You guys have supported the hell out of us over the last 6 months that we've been a company. But yeah. No.

Justin Broady [00:12:01]:
So we we sat down. We talked about a couple beers. We decided to go ahead, move forward with it. Naturally, we wanted to work with Dynasty on that because I know that you guys have a really good relationship. Favio's a legend, in the brewing community around here.

Jacob Berg [00:12:15]:
So that's where favorite brewer.

Justin Broady [00:12:18]:
Yes. Yes. So it it it was, it was great to be able to work with him, on base. So that was really cool. I met Favio for the first time at Beltway. So it's for the relationship to kinda come full circle. That was pretty cool. So, Yeah.

Justin Broady [00:12:32]:
You know, we talked about it, decided on the beer, started talking about some names, you know, got down with the label and everything, which is Just now finishing up, and, I can't wait to show that to people. And, yeah, we brewed a pretty Pretty good beer for you guys, and we can't wait to release it.

Jacob Berg [00:12:51]:
So the release is gonna be the last weekend in January at Dynasty. Details over the Strange Fruit socials, the DC Beer socials as well. It's gonna be a pale ale, and here, and it's gonna have a little bit of haze to it. How did you all decide? Like, well, you know, we've done this hazy IPA. It comes in north of 7%. Here. That's about where you see the hazies these days. Then you went a little bit lower.

Jacob Berg [00:13:17]:
German pills, 4 a half, 5%. Maybe it's just north of 5. And alright. Where does the hazy pale fit in for Strange Fruit?

Austin Eason [00:13:27]:
Honestly, when we first started the company, you know, we had a a pretty extensive list of beers that we wanted to brew. And, you know, Justin and I are fans of all styles, but, you know, we wanted to brew something that, You know, it's approachable for people who may not love IPAs and want to be lower ABV and, you know, something that has, you know, some good flavor And have some some more depth to it than, you know, what some other beers out there might have. And so a hazy pale ale was, you know, in the top 3 of our list. It went IPA to make a a splash, then Pilsner, and then now a hazy pale ale. You know, I personally have always been a fan of hazy pale ale. Sometimes I don't I don't wanna drink, beer. You know, 6a half to 7a half percent beer, but I want a lot of that that flavor and and, you know, know I can have 2 or 3 and still here. Good and sit up on my ass.

Austin Eason [00:14:20]:
But, so, that was kind of where where things Started in yeah. We think it made sense to not only, you know, have this be the first one that we do with with DCB here, but also to to add in our our future arsenal.

Jacob Berg [00:14:34]:
Justin, your thoughts on all of this in terms of, like, where you all are as a brand? Like, did the IPA, did the pills. To me, a pale ale kinda hits that sweet spot. You keep it, like, you know, at just under 6. And as Austin said, Something you could have 2, maybe on a weekend, 3 of.

Justin Broady [00:14:55]:
Well, yeah, kinda like, Austin said, it was Kinda like naturally next in our line of beers that we wanted to release. We released subtle nod. That was a the hazy IPA, And but we brewed that to kind of shadow that line between a PLL and an IPA. So for people who like to say, you know, they don't like really Danky beers, bitter beers, we kinda brewed that to introduce that to the market is something that's more subtle. No pun intended. And, then our next beer, the German Pilsner, we kinda wanted to cover all of our bases for the people who don't really like hops at all. So the light beer drinkers, the The core is originals. I wanna be careful what beers I've compared this to because definitely more flavorful.

Justin Broady [00:15:41]:
But, but yeah. But so we thought that the PLL, was next to go back kinda to that hoppy side and, Fully show that we can, we do have some versatility and stuff in our arsenal and that we're able to brew a variety of different styles. So, The pale ale, that also being Austin's favorite style of beer, that was naturally next for us to do.

Jacob Berg [00:16:04]:
I wanna pick up on something that you just mentioned with regards to dankness because I know that when it came time to for hop selection, this was the topic of some discussion. When I'm drinking a pale ale As opposed to an IPA, I'm looking for probably a lot less dankness. And that when it comes to an IPA, Yeah. Absolutely. People famously say that, like, Bella's hop slam tastes like a cat, like, you know, Pissed on a Christmas tree because, like, it's got these, like, weird tiny, catty, danky notes. I think of, like, the old DC brow corruption where it's like it feels like Kinda like you're mowing the lawn while also smoking a joint. Yep. Yeah.

Jacob Berg [00:16:45]:
And the pale ales are not like that. Like, it's very rare that you would come across, like, a 6%, 5 and a half percent dank pale ale.

Justin Broady [00:16:55]:
Well, I feel like that's kinda where pale ale started, though. If you, In my opinion, like, when you think of kinda like Sierra Nevada, things like that, those mainstream beers that were parallels that kinda, Again, shout on that IPA ish line. But yes. No. We wanted we wanted to cater, and we're really trying beer. To show people that beer has depth. And when it comes to beer, it's like everything else. There's different Styles.

Justin Broady [00:17:21]:
There's, we have, you know, East Coast IPAs. You have West Coast IPAs. The West Coast IPAs are the ones that people tend to So, yeah, I don't like it. It's too bitter, too danky, too hoppy. So we wanna show people that there's an entire Other side to that. And, no offense with Austin being on the West Coast. But we, on the East Coast, we like our beers a little bit more Tropical, a little bit more fruity, a little bit more, you know, less hoppy. So, again, that's what we wanted to show with the pale ale.

Austin Eason [00:17:55]:
We do too out here. Just because it's called the West Coast IPA doesn't mean everybody likes to drink it. You know? That's true.

Justin Broady [00:18:01]:
Right. It originated over there. I'll give you that. Yeah. They have been like great hazy's out there too. Austin sent me some pretty good shit from out there too.

Jacob Berg [00:18:10]:
Yeah. And, like, and, like, one of my favorite hazy pale l's Comes from, Radiant out in Orange County. Bunch of brewers, X Brewery, here. Do a hazy pale ale comes in at about 5 a half percent. Hazy, not dank, but, Like, the malt and, like, the structure is there in a way. It's got a little bit more to it than, some of your other hazy IPAs where like you've got, like, just enough malt, just enough of that bread toast where then, like, you could hit with a bunch of hops. To me, pale ale, like you said, Little bit like a little bit more structure and depth complexity to it, and you can kinda go back and forth there.

Justin Broady [00:18:50]:
Yep. And it's, yeah. And we definitely wanna be able to flex that and show that. And, I think the hot variety we use, people are gonna be very happy with it. They're pretty well known when it comes to, that hazy East Coast style.

Jacob Berg [00:19:05]:
Yeah. I thought we did a really a real nice job with southern southern hemisphere hops, a couple classics in there too because you gotta have them. Yeah. But I was like, yeah. Going going through the hops is very interesting. I think that we were we all just kinda immediately figured out, alright. This is what we want. This is what we don't.

Justin Broady [00:19:20]:
Yep. Exactly. I mean, because when it comes to those things, there's certain hops that I mean, you know, when it comes to, I guess, having, you know, so many Year. Different opinions and things people like to, you know, they like they like what they like, and I think we did a really good job with not forcing Anything in there, you know, it was definitely we had some discussions about it, and, I think we settled on the perfect hop combination, And I'm excited to see what it, what it tastes like. Favio sent me a couple pictures. I haven't been able to stop by there and try it, but I know we will be shotgunning you on the canny line, once we're canning it.

Jacob Berg [00:19:58]:
Yeah. There'll be a couple low fills that, you know, we'll have to we'll have to pull those out out of, the The wholesale retails, you know, and Yep. Kind of test those ourselves.

Justin Broady [00:20:08]:
Yeah. You you guys gonna have to just, subscribe to DC Beer to see that behind the it's what it's too, by the way. So So

Jacob Berg [00:20:14]:
you got beer 3 is in the tanks, this pale ale. What's next after that?

Justin Broady [00:20:20]:
Oh, man. That's something that I was in and out, actually. Like, didn't

Jacob Berg [00:20:25]:
you know that have been done? To be answered now. There could just be discussion.

Justin Broady [00:20:29]:
We're we're gonna leave a little bit of mystery Mhmm. There, but we do have a couple things up our sleeves, a couple other collaborations that we're gonna do. We have A few other styles that we wanna be able to introduce, but we do understand that we've created a following and everything for the beers that we've Already created, and subtle nod and approachable guys. So we're we're gonna see. We're gonna see. 2 2024 has a lot, has has yet to be seen, and we have a lot up our sleeves for that.

Austin Eason [00:21:01]:
I mean, I will say that, you know, the first thing that I mean, That the next beer that we're brewing is 1 we've already brewed. You know, with the the, support that we got for approachable guides, and, you know, we're We're talking about, brewing that again, like I said, in the in the next couple weeks, hopefully, and getting that ready. And then from there, you know, figuring out what the next, Not just 1 beer is, but the next 2, 3 beers are so that we're prepared and can go to, you know, our contracting partners and and get that done so that we're, You know, you know, not running low on inventory ever, and and we have, like, a more, consistent output. So, yeah, definitely stay tuned. It'll it'll be a fun Fun ride.

Jacob Berg [00:21:44]:
Excellent. See, this is the kind of positivity we want in 2024. Brewers strategizing about how they can brew more beer, and then turn around and immediately sell it. Nothing wasted. Nothing sits on the shelf. This is this is what we wanna see. Alright. And, Justin

Justin Broady [00:22:01]:
Yes, sir.

Jacob Berg [00:22:02]:
We will see you on January 27th at noon at Dynasty.

Justin Broady [00:22:08]:
Can't wait for that. Can't wait for that. We have a, it's gonna be a good time. It's gonna be a

Austin Eason [00:22:12]:
good time.

Jacob Berg [00:22:12]:
Absolutely. Alright. Austin, Justin, thank you all so much. Here. We'll be chatting again soon, I believe.

Justin Broady [00:22:21]:
Absolutely. Pleasure. Always a pleasure. Thank you, guys. Yeah.

Jacob Berg [00:22:24]:
Thank you, guys.

Austin Eason [00:22:24]:
For having us. Appreciate you.

Jacob Berg [00:22:26]:
Thank you so much to Favio for lending us his expertise. Thank you, Ethan. Thank you, Austin. Thank you, Justin. We will see you all on the 27th, Saturday, 2 PM. Four packs available, other beers available, a DJ, food trucks.

Jordan Harvey [00:22:47]:
All at Dynasty Brewing in Virginia. So, yeah, go ahead and make the the trek out to Virginia, and and to learn more about the event on it, again, on our website at dcbeer.com/ events. And you can also learn more about what's going on with with DC Beer and all the women's brew culture events and all the other spectacular beer events we have, here. By being a supporter of our Patreon, we have a number of partners that we have that have graciously provided Air. Various discounts on taproom sales and to go sales as well. So, shout outs to all of our partners. Thank you guys for year. Your continued support, and looking forward to making 2024 not only a happy new year, but a fruitful Year.

Jordan Harvey [00:23:30]:
New year. Get it with strange fruit and everything else. Hey. But a fruitful new year with, with new friends and and and many more collaborations, to come. So, yeah, check us out on Patreon, and and definitely check out the page.

Jacob Berg [00:23:45]:
I don't wanna end the show on, like, a dour bummer note, but I'm going to. We already just had our 1st beer related closure of 2024. We lost a real one in Erika Goedrich and the craft beer seller. Their last day was, earlier this week. There will be a liquor store moving in. Although when, I don't know. I hope they keep the beer focus. I hope that they have Half of the beer expertise, half of the caring that Erika has for craft beer.

Jacob Berg [00:24:20]:
The good news is that she's now free, to come to more beer events, and hopefully, we will we will see her around. Jordan, Mike, any parting thoughts on Erika on the craft beer seller? I know that you've both here. Worked with her.

Jordan Harvey [00:24:33]:
Yeah. You know, I hate to see any business go under, especially, I think a business that was so important to the community, and just, you know, H Street as a whole, but not just H Street. You know, the DC Beer community, you know, is where, You know, we're we're beer nerds live and have fun. Right? You know? So, I was fortunate to work with her throughout 2023, with, you know, 2 different Fundraising events on behalf of, the Harper Wilder Scholarship Foundation as well as, you know, just being able to, host beer tastings for the Artemis 5 release we did with, Astro Lab Brewing, but also with the homecoming release we did with Third Hill Brewing. So here. She's she's always just been a a a great friend, great business per partner, and and just, you know, CBC will be missed for sure. I I actually had to grab a a shirt so I can always wear my my CBC merch. May it live on here.

Jordan Harvey [00:25:28]:
In memory, if not, you know, in in the physical space on 8th Street. But, yeah, I decided to see her go, but I I am happy for, you know, the the next chapter of, here. What she has coming in. And the fact that she cannot come to trivia at other half. So, you know, small wins.

Michael Stein [00:25:44]:
Yeah. I'll follow it up and say, I'm super excited to see Erika at the next DC Beer Share. And I don't know if it's gonna This next one or February, March, whenever, but we look forward to that moment. H Street, Great Street. I still believe that. That's here. Still true, in our hearts and minds. You know, Erikais freed up now, which is a wonderful thing because I think when you're a small business owner, It's a blessing, certainly, to be in business for almost 8 years, seven and a half years.

Michael Stein [00:26:15]:
Erika has been doing it. But it's a burden too, Especially when what you're doing is curating so many good beers from so many different sources. If you head on over to dcbeer.com, you can see what what's been said about her from her friends and colleagues. So I'll just add briefly what Emily Brown, the beverage director, at Andy's Pizza told us. And she said, I believe this closing has nothing to do with how Erika here. Ran that shop and everything to do with things entirely out of her control. There's a lot that's outside of our control in this world in our lives, and so it's important for us to keep track of what's within our control and what's not. That being said, I think, we have to recognize that within her control, Erika had every single black owned beer brand in DC, here.

Michael Stein [00:27:09]:
Sankofa, Soul Mega, Urban Garden, she really walked the walk when it came to inclusivity. He thought Erika did great because she sent him a questionnaire with specific pointed questions that answer about views and policies against sexism and harassment. Here. And that's the world we wanna live in. We wanna live in a world with less sexism, less harassment, more inclusivity. So, cheers to to Erika, and, we're looking forward to seeing you, at trivia, at the next share, or just around town. Pint on us.

Jacob Berg [00:27:50]:
Well said. Trivia. Other half, Wednesdays with Jordan. On that note, We are at DC Beer across the socials, dcbeer.com. Check us out. Thank you again to Favio, to Strange Fruit for having us. I'm an honor to be a part of it, and we will see you around town. Happy dry January if you're drying out.