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Mental health and Spirituality with a dollop of Comedy? We're UnBadding, Baby! One episode at a time. Dayna Pereira and Jessica Pressly, two sisters on two very different paths, explore what it means to "unbad". That Inner Critic in your head? We’re UnBadding it.. Societal pressure to make everything appear perfect? We’re UnBadding it! We’re UnBadding ALL the things, every Thursday. Join the journey! And don't forget to rate, review and subscribe!
UnBadding; A Mental Health and Spirituality Podcast
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Lyrics by Dayna Pereira
Bedding. Unbadding Hello,
Dayna pereira:Everybody, and welcome back to another episode of unbatting. I'm Dana Pereira. And I'm Jessica Presley. Jazz, I feel like, spring sports are upon us, and, I don't have, like, a second to breathe.
Jessica Pressly:Oh, no. Well, that's what you get for being a breeder.
Dayna pereira:Yeah. Exactly what I get for being a breeder. Just busy busy. How are you doing?
Jessica Pressly:You know what? We are hanging in there. We don't have spring sports happening, but we do have a very busy life. So in that regard, I definitely relate to you. I had spoken a little bit last week about, having been the solo parent for a week, So I feel like we are back in the swing of things of normal dual parenting life, which has been quite nice.
Jessica Pressly:But all in all, things are going pretty good.
Dayna pereira:So I saw this post on probably Instagram, but it was like, allowing yourself to have one lazy day a week, like, one day a week where you do nothing. I don't know. It's beneficial in some way, shape, or form. I honestly just saw the headline. Don't even remember the full thing.
Dayna pereira:But do you ever allow yourself to have just like a lazy day?
Jessica Pressly:Yeah. I do. I think I'm pretty good with myself about having lazy days. I think the thing that I struggle with is allowing my kids to have lazy days, and so I've been trying to be a little bit more intentional about that. Days where they can just, like, go and be and exist because I'm always like, you know, eat the right thing, don't watch TV, too much screen time, put the phone down, do something for your brain, move your body.
Jessica Pressly:You know, like, I always have these, like, prerequisites that they need to do if they wanna be lazy and do nothing. Yeah. So I'm trying to be a little bit better about giving them opportunity to be lazy.
Dayna pereira:So it's funny that you say that because there was another thing that I saw on TikTok. Oh, what? There's this really popular, like, mom TikToker who whenever she was young, her parents never let her watch TV or like eat sweets or do any of the things. And she was like, and now I'm like, an alcoholic that overeats my emotions and binge watches Housewives. Housewives.
Dayna pereira:She's like, so go off, Becca.
Jessica Pressly:Yeah. I mean, there there's gotta be balance in all things. Right? So, I feel like if I give them that one day a week, that maybe they won't be a binging alcoholic eating their emotions.
Dayna pereira:Yeah. And and binging
Jessica Pressly:housewives. Exactly. Exactly. Although back in my day, I did really love a good, full day of housewives or you know what my, big mom. Yeah.
Jessica Pressly:I was gonna say my big vice was teen mom. Fuck.
Dayna pereira:I
Jessica Pressly:loved that show.
Dayna pereira:I've always been into, like, Forensic Files or NCIS or, you know, something like that. But, yeah, you and Robin, our cousin, didn't you guys both love teen mom?
Jessica Pressly:I don't know if she watched teen mom, but I was definitely more the, like, I don't know, like, the the what's the word I'm looking for?
Dayna pereira:You have to edit it. TV? Yeah. It was reality TV, but it
Jessica Pressly:was all the emotion stuff. Like, I loved for I think I've watched, like, every episode of Intervention. I've watched all the teen moms or, like, things that had to do with, like, relationship and and, like, people I I don't know, their traumas and how they manifest in their life. I don't know. I've always been super into that stuff.
Jessica Pressly:But teen mom and any good pregnancy show, I was also addicted to, a baby story for a very long time. Do you remember that on TLC? Loved a baby story,
Dayna pereira:but that's because I wanted a baby so bad.
Jessica Pressly:I think I was always obsessed with the birth part of it because when it was like a c section, I'd be like, next episode. I didn't like that one.
Dayna pereira:What about the one that was I didn't know I was pregnant? Were there just, like, shitting
Jessica Pressly:out babies in toilets? Yes. That was a great one. Or, like, what was the other one? It was like my strange addiction.
Dayna pereira:Oh, where people would, like, eat soap and stuff?
Jessica Pressly:Yeah. Like the wall or, like, baking soda, some sort of cornstarch concoction. I don't know. Yes. I love all those shows.
Dayna pereira:Oh, you know what? Me too. In fact, I'm actually surprised that you're not watching love is blind because that is like a very juicy relationship based show. How are you not on the love is blind train?
Jessica Pressly:I think I'm just kind of like off the TV train. I go through waves. I, like, sometimes I'll read more. Sometimes I'll watch more TV. I feel like the last, like, juicy kind of reality show that I watched was, I'm not even gonna remember the name of it.
Jessica Pressly:I'm gonna have to look it up so we can put on the episode, but it had to do with, like, these moms and sons that went to this, like, resort in Mexico. And then the moms all dated each other's sons, and it was like cougars with the young boys, and it was
Dayna pereira:just interviewed one of those women.
Jessica Pressly:Yeah. It was so addicting. I could not stop watching. Dave was like, what the fuck are you watching? I'm like, no.
Cynthia Clark:No. No. No. No. No.
Cynthia Clark:You gotta
Jessica Pressly:watch this. It's so good.
Dayna pereira:I loved it. So perverse because they did not know at all that their sons were going to be dating.
Jessica Pressly:Right. They thought they were just gonna be, like, on this dating show. Right? And that yeah. I don't know.
Jessica Pressly:It was it was pretty wild, but it was very entertaining. And I really think that, like, some of the women were catching feelings, and the men were catching feelings too. I think some of it was just, like, to be on TV and, like, not be a one that lost. But Yeah. I think some of them made some real connections, but there was definitely I love to psychoanalyze people when they're, like, on these shows.
Jessica Pressly:I think that's why I like the emotionally charged ones. And I'm like, oh, she's got a father wound. He's got a mommy wound. I pairing them up.
Dayna pereira:Okay. So I'm going to go back to love is blind. You need to, because I do the exact same thing, but with all of the players on Love is Blind. I'm I think I watched the first
Jessica Pressly:season of that, and I think that, like, a black woman and a white guy got married.
Dayna pereira:Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah.
Jessica Pressly:Yeah. I watched that season. Yeah. That's a good It didn't sink me in for a number 2, but it was pretty juicy.
Dayna pereira:So, I mean, the first one, the they it gets wild. I'll just like, it's just it gets wild.
Jessica Pressly:There's Go back to round 2.
Dayna pereira:Crazy shit on all of them. But I love this because, we had a guest today.
Jessica Pressly:We did. It was so nice.
Dayna pereira:It was so nice. And and we were talking on the episode about how there are all of these distractions, like freaking reality TV. Mhmm. Mhmm. And how, you know, we need to kind of get back to simple.
Dayna pereira:Our guest today was Cynthia Clark, and she is a hypnotherapist amongst a laundry list of many, many other things.
Jessica Pressly:Yeah. She's a well qualified individual. And I will say that, even just talking with her, I feel like I don't know. Like, just her voice and her presence, it's all just, like, so soothing, so calming. Her energy is so grounded.
Jessica Pressly:It's just really nice to be to share space with her. So I'm really grateful we had her on today.
Dayna pereira:I love everything about her. She's been one of my best friends for over a decade now. And she is that person. She's, she's like home for some people. You know, like, she feels I know that I never have to worry about being judged with her ever.
Dayna pereira:Ever. I could spit out the gnarliest thing that I could think in my brain and should be like, Dana is,
Jessica Pressly:like, right, right.
Dayna pereira:So guys, she is running us through hypnotherapy and visualization on this episode, and it is a ride. Let me tell you.
Jessica Pressly:It is a ride. And stay on till the end because she gives us, like, a, like, a little technique or some tips that we can try at the end if you want to kinda do a little hypnosis on yourself. So I thought that was pretty cool too.
Dayna pereira:That was. So please enjoy Cynthia Clark. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Unbatting. And if you're watching this, you can already see that there is another face here today.
Dayna pereira:I have one of my best friends on the planet, maybe every other planet as well. I'm not sure because I can't remember visiting those planets. But today, we have Cynthia Clark.
Jessica Pressly:Hi. Hi. So excited to be here. Yeah. We're happy you're here.
Dayna pereira:Hi. Hi. So, Cynthia, tell everybody kind of what your gig is. Why are you here?
Cynthia Clark:Awesome. So I'm Cynthia Clark. I am a clinically certified hypnotherapist, Reiki master teacher, NLP practitioner.
Jessica Pressly:There's lots of little titles like that that keep going on, but that's not who I really am.
Cynthia Clark:I don't think that's we're not our titles. Right? And I wanted to kind of tell you guys a little bit about what hypnosis really is, what visualization is, and why and how it's so powerful, and how it's, really helped guide and train and change and transform my life and what it's done for my clients. So so
Dayna pereira:What what is hypnosis and visualization? Exact and are they hand in hand, or are they completely separate things?
Cynthia Clark:I believe that they are hand in hand. So hypnosis is a very natural state of being. So it's just a different brain wave. So right now, what we are in is called beta. You're listening to me.
Cynthia Clark:You're understanding what the words that I'm saying. Your brain is processing at at this brain wave. Right? So when you maybe sit down to read a book or you watch TV, You enter into a different brainwave, and usually that's around alpha. So everything starts to slow down.
Cynthia Clark:That's why when you're reading a book or when you are watching TV, you can have those emotions. You can feel like you are in there. Like, it's really happening. It's why you get scared. It's why you react.
Cynthia Clark:It's because your brain has slowed down to the point where your conscious mind, which is always looking out for what's going to kill me, what's gonna hurt me, what's gonna harm me
Dayna pereira:Danger. Danger.
Cynthia Clark:Yes. Yeah. Has calmed down and shut down to the point where where your conscious mind, everything is entering that point. So what you're watching, what you're reading becomes very real, and it goes straight into your subconscious mind. So then you can have those reactions.
Cynthia Clark:You can cry. You can feel scared. You can feel whatever is happening on that screen or in that book. So it's a very natural natural state.
Jessica Pressly:So quick question for you. The the thing that's coming up for me when you're saying this about, like, things going, like, directly into your subconscious mind, I'm like, oh oh my gosh. What do I wanna put in there? Like, am I sure I wanna watch this? Am I sure I wanna put this in my brain, in my body, in my experience?
Jessica Pressly:So as a hypnotherapist, and having this information, like, is that something that you're aware of when you are, like, opening yourself up to entertainment?
Cynthia Clark:A 100%.
Dayna pereira:A 100%. Gotten in trouble before, Cynthia. It's like, Dana, turn off your fucking true crime pod
Jessica Pressly:podcast. I'm always like, if it makes me scared, I don't wanna watch it.
Cynthia Clark:Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Cynthia Clark:I can't honestly, I can't watch any horror movies anymore because it just
Jessica Pressly:so with you.
Cynthia Clark:It's that, and then you wanna go even deeper than that, like opening portals and, like, there's all kinds of deepness that happens with that kind of stuff. So that's a whole another episode, but
Jessica Pressly:yeah. I wanna get into that one eventually. I know. I'm like, do tell. Yeah.
Cynthia Clark:What you're watching, what you're listening to, what you when you are in that state, you are so susceptible. And the powers that be know this. So, like, TV, let's why it can become that part of, like, the addicting to that point. Right? Because it's like a stimuli that's happening, and it goes right.
Cynthia Clark:You know? You see a commercial for In N Out, and then you want in and out. You
Dayna pereira:know? Every damn time.
Jessica Pressly:So how does that affect you as a parent on, like, what your kid consumes?
Cynthia Clark:So, honestly, she doesn't really watch. I our generation, that that generation doesn't watch TV. Right? So it's more of what is on their screens. When Aiden I have a 14 year old daughter.
Cynthia Clark:When she was young, I vowed, as crazy as it sounded, to keep her busy. And I took so much slack from lots of people around me when I put her into dance and competitive dance. So she was competing at a very, very young age. But I wasn't thinking about when she was 5 and 6 and 7. I was thinking about right now when she's 14 and 15 and 16 and 17.
Cynthia Clark:So she has something that is keeping her mind busy. She has a goal. She has something that she's reaching and striving for.
Jessica Pressly:Mhmm.
Cynthia Clark:And I think that that has done wonders because she's not consumed. I mean, this generation is consumed with their telephone. Let's be real.
Jessica Pressly:Oh, yeah.
Cynthia Clark:It's absolutely you can't get away from it. But she has another outlet that she's focused on where I don't I didn't have that. You know? So yeah. Absolutely.
Cynthia Clark:And I try to you're you're a mom, so she looks at me and she's like, oh, what you do is so weird. But then every so often, I hear the little driblets of seeds that have been planted coming through her language, and I'm like, okay. It's getting in there. You know? Yeah.
Jessica Pressly:Yeah. I love that. Yeah.
Dayna pereira:Yeah. So whenever, you're talking about, like, the TV or the reading the books, and that's whenever, you get scared or have emotion. And I know that there are some people out there that have no emotion reading books Or is it like different people, just get into it deeper or different people block it a lot harder or aren't open to it? What do you think that is?
Cynthia Clark:That's a good question. I don't know. Do those people even read books or watch movies then? I mean, you know, like, I I've never really heard of someone not being able maybe not experiencing the book like that, but everybody has sat down and watched a movie and been like, oh, wow. Scared or afraid or felt the emotions that whatever they're trying to convey through it.
Cynthia Clark:So Yeah. At some level, we're in that state every single day. Have you heard of highway hypnosis? That happens too.
Dayna pereira:What is highway hypnosis?
Cynthia Clark:So think of a time when you're so lost in your thought and all of a sudden you've exited the freeway and you don't even and then you're like, woah. How did I how did I even get here? Like, it's just automatic. Right?
Jessica Pressly:So They'll commonly refer to it as autopilot.
Cynthia Clark:Yes. Yeah. Same thing. So you're just in a different brainwave because you've been so in that thought process of what's happening, And then you enter into that state, and you just automatically go where you're gonna go.
Dayna pereira:That's really funny that you say that because just a couple of days ago, I'm driving my kids to school and I pull up, and I was so deep in thought that I actually was like, how the heck? Like my body was on such autopilot getting here deep in those thoughts that I was almost concerned. Like, was I paying attention? Yeah. But I mean, I know that I'm a safe driver and I so I felt like I was, but I also felt like I was not.
Dayna pereira:I was very consumed with the thoughts that were going on in my brain.
Cynthia Clark:Yep. Yep. And then you so when when I first go into a session with a client, what I like to explain to them is, you may hear me. You may not hear me. You may go into a state of what I like to call la la land.
Cynthia Clark:It's kind of the feeling of right before you go to bed and you, like, you start to fall asleep and then your mind starts to wander and, like, you start thinking weird thoughts. That's when you're first entering into that that deep theta brain wave. And from theta, you also access the parasympathetic mode. So that's where your body starts healing. Like, when you're getting a massage, right, and you start to fall asleep.
Cynthia Clark:Well, when you get up, you're already in that theta brain wave. You're already in that zone of, like, healing, doing something like like right before you go to bed. Right? So if you're seeing affirmations or if you're starting to visualize what you want to bring into your experience and co create, you can do that effectively right before bed too. So because you're starting to enter that theta brain wave, and then you start to think and feel and start to see what you want.
Cynthia Clark:And, also, it's like your brain is gonna slip into that other dimension almost right up into that gamma waves when you sleep. So thinking about what you wanna start creating the next day is going to leave your brain in that same frequency, so to speak. So, like, I love listening to, binaural beats of different frequencies. So my brain is constantly getting a frequency wave that's that's good for my brain while sleeping.
Dayna pereira:So what about sound machines? Because I've heard are sound machines good or are they No. Not I mean, like, the the white noise stuff?
Cynthia Clark:I would think so if I mean, you could always test it, I guess, and see what frequency is coming out of it. You don't so there's a whole thing about, like, radio music and that's, like, 44140, Hertz is not supposed to be really great for your brainwaves. But anything that's, like, 432 or, 5 what is it? 480 587, 582. 1 of those 2.
Cynthia Clark:Anyway Mhmm. There's all kinds of different ones that are different frequencies that are really good. So that I just go on YouTube and have that's all free.
Dayna pereira:You're like, what's the good ass frequency for my brain?
Cynthia Clark:Yeah. Exactly. Today.
Jessica Pressly:Okay. So we kind of, like, started a little bit into, like, the different brainwaves. Right? So let's say, like, you have a client coming into a session. What are the things that your clients are coming to you for?
Jessica Pressly:What are the things that, our listeners would consider hypnotherapy for?
Cynthia Clark:Yeah. So I see a lot of women that are kind of stuck spiritually or stuck and tired or, you know you have this bigger purpose in life, and you feel like you're kind of on this rat wheel. Right? So a lot of times, it's doing some I know you guys just had an episode on shadow work, and I love me some shadow work. So digging really deeply into, okay, what may be holding me back, and then how do we fill that gap to the other side?
Cynthia Clark:Maybe it's anxiety. I work a lot with anxiety, a lot with, trying to visualize what you wanna bring into your experience. So when I say visualize, think of it like this. If I were to ask you, how do you get to your house? You could automatically see it.
Cynthia Clark:Right? You would create it in your brain. You would see it. You would feel it. You would know.
Cynthia Clark:So that's the same it's like accessing part of your imagination. And that's what's so beautiful here is we're taught that our imagination is so fake and not real, but it's actually how we design and start to cocreate and really create the things that we're bringing into our life. Mhmm. Like, just like the room that you're sitting in, Dana, that was a thought in your brain before anything. Mhmm.
Cynthia Clark:You thought about it. You felt into it. You're like, wow. This would feel beautiful. This would feel great.
Cynthia Clark:This is what it looks like. So your thoughts, it's Tifar. Your thoughts become a feeling, and then your feeling becomes an action, and that action leads to a result.
Jessica Pressly:So when you're saying this to me, I feel like this could go one of 2 ways. Right? You can, t far your way into beauty. You can t far your way into hell.
Cynthia Clark:Boom. Yes.
Jessica Pressly:It's just a matter of, like, the awareness and choosing which way you wanna go.
Cynthia Clark:Right.
Jessica Pressly:And Or being intentional about it.
Cynthia Clark:Yes. Yes. So we are always creating. We are creator beings. So are we creating by default, or are we creating deliberately?
Cynthia Clark:That's the question.
Dayna pereira:So many people are creating by default because it, I mean, we just fall into this rat race and, like, what we're told is so important. The things that we money money money money money. You're not you haven't succeeded unless you are the manager, and then you need to be the general manager, and then you need to be the CEO. You have to constantly be climbing this ladder. And I get that, like, sure, it's nice to, like, have dreams like that.
Dayna pereira:But I do think that so many of us have forgotten, like, the the real, like, heart hitting reasons that we're here.
Jessica Pressly:Yes. So let's say that example that you gave Dana, like, about, like, climbing the corporate ladder. Right? So from what I gather, Cynthia is saying, it's like, you can climb that corporate ladder and create this, like, beautiful experience and life and internal dialogue about it that it feels really fulfilling
Dayna pereira:Yes.
Jessica Pressly:And is a part of your beauty, a part of what you've created. Mhmm. Or you can be like, my boss is a dick. I work all day every day. I hate my job.
Jessica Pressly:I hate my life. And it can become your, like, your real life hell. Yeah. Absolutely. Matter of, like, what what picture you're gonna paint.
Cynthia Clark:Absolutely. And then it's you mentioned just, like, having having awareness. So awareness of your thoughts. So your thoughts are just these patterns that start to happen. Like, literally, it's neuroscience in your brain.
Cynthia Clark:There are neuro pathways in your brain and your next best thoughts, even though it might not be a best thought at that point, is automatic. So it just chooses that same pathway in your brain because it doesn't know any other way. So once you kind of bring yourself out of the smaller picture, and I always tell people to take this eagle eye view. Right? You look from above and you start to be be in awareness and almost see yourself from this third person up here, maybe even your higher self.
Cynthia Clark:Right? We'll talk about that more later. But you start to see and then you're not in it, and then you can go, okay. I get to now question this thought. I get to say, is this really true?
Cynthia Clark:You know? Like, what's a horrible thought that most of us have? Right? I'm not good enough. This isn't good enough for this.
Cynthia Clark:Am I being a good enough mom? Was I x y z? All of these things, these core values that are there that maybe aren't even really that aren't really true. It's just something that you grew up with or that was implanted in you in those years of 0 to 7 where you're just a sponge. There is no conscious mind.
Cynthia Clark:It's all subconscious, and everything goes straight in there to create exactly who you are now. So a lot of the work that I do also is going back through the timeline and allowing people to access these I always call them these these small but big moments where something core happened and created this version of you or this thought pattern or something that's not even really true, but that you're still tying onto and holding onto the negative part of it, then that that then rules your life or your decisions.
Dayna pereira:That was that's something that I think about a lot because, you almost start to feel a little guilty whenever you have this understanding that your thoughts create your reality. Right? Because if you're starting to have thoughts where, you know, you know, you are thinking bad things and then bad things happen, you're like, oh my god. I did this to myself. So whenever you're trying to switch that you have, you know, good thoughts creating the good things and you have the bad thoughts creating the bad thing.
Dayna pereira:But what level of energy goes into each of those things? Because it's like, if my brain automatically is like, fuck you. Here's a bad thought for you. And I'm then I'm like, shit. I don't want whatever's coming from that.
Jessica Pressly:The good thing is is
Dayna pereira:that it
Cynthia Clark:takes a little bit longer than that. Right? Otherwise, we'd all be
Jessica Pressly:really, really fucked up.
Dayna pereira:Well, I mean, I have had some instant karma before.
Jessica Pressly:When I do notice a recurring negative thought coming up, again, like, you know, it all kind of stems from this, like, awareness. That's how we shift things. We first must become aware of it. But when I noticed that I have a recurring thought that's coming up, I will oftentimes give myself a counter thought. Like, when it comes up, I'm like if I'm like, oh, no.
Jessica Pressly:So and so is gonna get sick. I'm like, I'm so grateful we've been healthy this year.
Cynthia Clark:Yes.
Jessica Pressly:Yes. And that helps me feel like I'm not allowing the bad thoughts to do damage.
Cynthia Clark:Yeah. Yeah. Or if it's something that is a reoccurring thought, redirecting and then going back to it and going, okay. Where did this even come from? Like, is this even mine?
Cynthia Clark:Or is this my mom's? Is this my dad's? Does this even belong in my body anymore? Okay. Cool.
Cynthia Clark:Thank you. I've learned from it. I get to that, you know, that's part of integrating the shadow. That's part of it. It's really going, okay.
Cynthia Clark:Is this mine? Is this not mine? And do I get to love on myself even when I'm having those thoughts? What do I need in that moment? So then I can go, okay.
Cynthia Clark:Cool. Let's move forward and create something new working on those neuro pathways, which is NLP, neurolinguistic programming. It's the programming of your mind because our brains are malleable.
Jessica Pressly:So is hypnosis and visualization a form of what did you say?
Cynthia Clark:So they're honestly, I really feel like they all go hand in hand. So I always tell people hypnosis and visualization is like meditation with a purpose, with a goal. So you're sitting down. We're relaxing you. I take you I'm a theta practitioner also, so I take you into the theta brainwave.
Cynthia Clark:And then from there, we create your home base, which is your safe place, whether it's a beach, mountains, the desert, your own room. And Dana's like, yes.
Dayna pereira:I love this. Been there.
Cynthia Clark:And then from there is where we venture out into the work, whether it is timeline therapy and you're going down to the 7 year old you that, was embarrassed because she peed her pants and everyone made fun of her, and then you created this whole other persona and blah blah blah blah blah. Right? But it's still something so deep that you're tied to And being able to love on that little 7 year old and give her whatever she need in that moment is huge. And I see grown men, women, children go there, and there's just tears. There's these beautiful tears because they're really connecting because time isn't real.
Cynthia Clark:They're really connecting with that version of themselves, and there's something deeply healing in.
Dayna pereira:I did, I did your rebirth 10 week class
Jessica Pressly:Yes.
Dayna pereira:Where we did a lot of hypnosis, and there was a lot of that. You have seen me ugly cry more than probably anybody out. Because anytime we did it, it was just sobbing, sobbing, sobbing, sobbing, sobbing.
Cynthia Clark:And Dana is not ugly when she cries, though.
Jessica Pressly:She can't be ugly if she tried.
Dayna pereira:No. But I I specifically remember in in Jess, this is kind of funny, because whenever you and I weren't talking and I was doing this shadow work with Cynthia, you came up so much. And I remember one specific thing where, I mean, it was something that I was holding on blame to. And I don't remember, like, particulars of it, of what it was. But I remember having an immediate awareness and going, oh, she was on the like, this was what was going on for her.
Dayna pereira:Like, she had taken me into wherever I was at. And immediately I was like, oh, she was in this situation and I was in this and it, like, changed my perspective so much around that situation that I, like, came out and I was like, oh, holy fuck, this isn't a blame situation. And I I loved that class. I hated going to it. I'm not gonna lie.
Dayna pereira:Fucking hated going to it. But it was so worth it.
Cynthia Clark:It is. It is. And now look at you guys.
Jessica Pressly:I know.
Cynthia Clark:I mean, it's so beautiful. When Dana told me about this, I
Jessica Pressly:was like, yeah. Yay. Yeah. Yeah. So much, yay.
Jessica Pressly:So I have a question about, like, how open people have to be in order to, go under hypnosis. Like, if they're, like, unconsciously a little stubborn about it, like, are there ways to break down those walls, or do you just have to, like, find the openness?
Cynthia Clark:Yeah. Honestly, I kinda like those people. It's fun because
Dayna pereira:The challenge?
Cynthia Clark:Yeah. And not only that because, you can't I if I was given a penny for how many times I've been told, you can't put me under him, though.
Jessica Pressly:See, I feel like I'm the person that's like, I want you to, but also, like, I'm not sure it's gonna work.
Dayna pereira:Yeah. Right. I I think also people have an idea of what hypnosis is that they think it is, and that's not what it is. Like, you're
Jessica Pressly:not not like
Dayna pereira:bock like a chicken or pat the ground or like, you have you have awareness when you're under hypnosis. It's not like
Cynthia Clark:me explain that part, what you were just talking about. That is that is a hypnotist doing a performance. So a good hypnotist, he knows in that panel who he can take to that place. And guess what? None of those people are gonna go and cluck like chickens unless they wanna cluck like chickens.
Cynthia Clark:You're never gonna do something that is beyond your morality and your boundaries. Never. The people that aren't gonna do it, they're just gonna they're just relaxing. They're chilling there.
Jessica Pressly:That's it. Yeah.
Cynthia Clark:Yeah. So it's kind of the same thing. Like, when you're in the state, we're not taking you to the depths of where we're gonna perform surgery. So I actually learned from a woman. Her name was Marla Brecker, and she's in San Diego.
Cynthia Clark:She's amazing. She used to perform, like, take people, go into the surgery rooms with people, and put them under, and they wouldn't have anesthesiology.
Jessica Pressly:And my god.
Cynthia Clark:No anesthesia.
Dayna pereira:None. Oh.
Cynthia Clark:So that's how powerful your brain is.
Jessica Pressly:That's incredible.
Cynthia Clark:Cut off that feeling and to know. That's what we can access. That's what we can do. We're not taking you there in a hypnotherapy session, in a hypnosis session. We're not taking you that deep.
Cynthia Clark:We're taking you to where you're relaxed, where this person that comes in and says, I can't be hypno hypnotized or isn't as open as they want they want the results, but maybe they feel like there's some sort of block there. When they're opening their eyes, I don't know that I've ever had someone that is like, oh my gosh. I don't feel great. Like, everyone feels great. They're like, that was amazing.
Cynthia Clark:I feel so relaxed. I feel so good. But, also, I feel like people that come to this type of therapy and treatment, they've been through everything else. Mhmm. They've they've done it's like the like, please help me.
Cynthia Clark:Right? I'll do anything. And there's always some openness in that. Right? And you're gonna get the most beautiful results for yourself when you commit to yourself because it's not to me.
Cynthia Clark:It's not it's not me performing for someone. It's you doing the work for you.
Jessica Pressly:Mhmm.
Cynthia Clark:And you being open for you. And when your heart is open to that, that you can move worlds.
Jessica Pressly:So So I have one experience with, hypnotherapy, and, I went to this person because I really struggle with, a phobia. Yeah. And, I have lived my life with this phobia of vomit Mhmm. In, like, the most debilitating way. I've just, like it is I won't go on certain trips.
Jessica Pressly:I won't go on certain car rides, certain boats. I won't participate in things. Like, all of this I always just orchestrated my life around this thing. And so I decided, like, you know, the person that comes to you that has tried to do it all. Right?
Jessica Pressly:Like, somebody please just help me. And I went to this person with such an open heart and an open mind and, like, really so much hope that this would be, like, the answer. Right? And I definitely felt like I was in a place of deep relaxation. Mhmm.
Jessica Pressly:But I don't feel like I made any progress with this
Dayna pereira:particular one time?
Jessica Pressly:No. I think I was there for a few sessions. Oh, maybe 3.
Cynthia Clark:Yeah. So what I would say with that is that our healing is never linear, and so it's like this continual circle that starts to happen. And maybe there's something else under there that needs to be looked at. So it's different than going in, and I don't know what this this hypnotherapist did if she went in and she was just reprogramming things, or did she take you back to a moment? Because that's what I would have done.
Cynthia Clark:I would have been
Jessica Pressly:like reprogramming. She was like, are we are grateful when our bodies are sick because, you know, it helps us get rid of things that don't need to be in our body, you know, like, things like that that she would say. But I'm was like, mm-mm. Nope. Not me.
Jessica Pressly:I don't do that. Yeah.
Dayna pereira:It reminds me of the episode of Friends where he's, like, playing the tape in the background while he's sleeping, and then he comes out a woman.
Jessica Pressly:Yeah. Maybe that would work. I need a a voice going through my whole sleep session.
Dayna pereira:All all now.
Cynthia Clark:My first question to you, Jess, would be when you're in this state right here, right now, where does your mind automatically go to when you think about that? What what would have when did you first have that inkling and that issue? Like, where do you logically think that it came from?
Jessica Pressly:I don't know where it came from. I remember when it started, and it was whenever we had, like, younger brothers and sisters that would, like, get sick every year. Yeah. And that was just, like, awful for me.
Cynthia Clark:Was it awful because it was your job to go and clean or be around it?
Jessica Pressly:No. It was awful because I wanted to leave, and my parents wouldn't let me leave. There it is. Yeah. I felt like I wasn't in control.
Jessica Pressly:Where else does that show up in
Cynthia Clark:your life? What's that? Control. Where else does that show up in your life?
Jessica Pressly:What's that?
Cynthia Clark:Where you have felt like you're not in control and you wanna leave, but you haven't been able to leave.
Jessica Pressly:I don't know where that shows up at that point.
Cynthia Clark:Have to answer that right now. But when you think about, like
Jessica Pressly:Right. That I get when I think about, like, oh my gosh. If I'm on this party bus and somebody gets sick, I'm stuck here and I can't leave. I can't go anywhere. I'm stuck on this bus with somebody getting sick or I'm stuck on this boat or I'm stuck
Cynthia Clark:Right.
Jessica Pressly:In this room with this kid that I chose to be a mother.
Dayna pereira:That's true. Every time the trash goes out. Yeah.
Jessica Pressly:Yeah.
Cynthia Clark:I would have you question that too. So, like, does what is the big problem there? What is it? Are you really stuck? And if you are, is that really a bad thing?
Cynthia Clark:And then if you are, like, digging deeper and deeper and deeper, is this really true? Okay. If that is, then is this really true? Okay. If that that is, then is this really true?
Cynthia Clark:Like, starting to get to the core of whatever the fear around that is. But, also, I would have taken you back to that first moment that you know
Dayna pereira:just reprogrammed. So what it okay. Reprogramming, taking back to a certain I didn't realize there's, like, different techniques here to do different things.
Cynthia Clark:There is. So I was trained in cognitive behavior behavioral there, hypnotherapy. So cognitive behavioral hypnotherapy and then Ericksonian hypnotherapy and then also energy medicine techniques and then also NLP. And that was my hypnotherapy course. Right?
Cynthia Clark:So there's lots of different techniques. So then there the NLP is more of, like, situational things. So, like, if you guys were to close your eyes right now and I asked you just to see that situation and to see how big it is and then to shrink it down and then to shrink it down again and to drain all of the color on it out of it and then to throw it behind you or anything that you're keeping to running into, that's NLP. So doing something in your mind because our minds sees life in pictures, in frames, in picture frames. So something that is happening in your life that keeps reoccurring and keeps showing up could be something that your you have a big, huge picture of that you continually start to run into.
Cynthia Clark:And so your mind has made it this big, huge thing when really maybe it's not even that big, and you get to control that and shrink it all down and throw it behind you. Take all the power away from it, and then you get to paint this new picture.
Dayna pereira:I remember doing one of those
Jessica Pressly:with Yeah.
Cynthia Clark:Same with, like, a movie theater. That's really, really beneficial too. Like, seeing yourself watching the movie of your life and then backing up again and seeing yourself as the director watching the movie watching yourself watch the movie screen. Interesting. Then So seeing yourself watching blah blah blah.
Dayna pereira:Like,
Jessica Pressly:being means just like higher self. Higher higher self. Higher higher higher self. Right?
Cynthia Clark:Yeah. Yep. Because then you're out of that you're out of that box.
Dayna pereira:That little tiny thing that looks so big whenever like, sure. If you're at the movie theater and you're sitting in the front row, it looks humongous.
Cynthia Clark:Right.
Dayna pereira:But if you go to the middle, it's a little bit smaller. And then if you go to the very back room, it's a little bit smaller. And then, you know, you just keep backing up. That screen gets smaller and smaller and smaller.
Cynthia Clark:It's good stuff. It's good stuff. And kids, when I work with kids, because I work with a lot of, I mentioned my daughter's a competitive dancer. I work a lot lot with competitive dancers or, athletes, baseball players, soccer players. Kids are just so fascinating to work with because they're so creative.
Cynthia Clark:I always say that they don't have all the dead bodies that we have. Mhmm. So they're not, like, just dragging a bunch of dead bodies behind them. Right?
Jessica Pressly:I hope not. Yeah. Like, we are.
Cynthia Clark:Yeah. That's what
Jessica Pressly:we do.
Cynthia Clark:We drag
Jessica Pressly:them all our dead bodies
Cynthia Clark:behind and until someone teaches us how to let them go. And kids kids don't have all that baggage, and they have this instant access to this part of their brain where, like, I don't even have to take them very deep. It's kind of just like, close your eyes. We create this beautiful bright color around them. That's their confident color.
Cynthia Clark:And then from there, we kinda go down, ground them into the earth, come back up, and we create their safe place. And then from there, they tell me all kinds of wild things. Like, they're at a beach, and the ocean is purple, and the sky is pink, and there's a giraffe, and the lion is telling them how they're worth everything that they want. And their their, like, their purpose is this, and they can do anything that they put their minds to. And, like, these are their words.
Cynthia Clark:Like, nothing that I've told them, they come back with this information. And it's amazing.
Dayna pereira:They're just love kids so much. I'm, like, actually a little jealous right now if I'm being honest because I'm an adult that is so fucking logical with everything. I'm like, oh, well, my safe space has to have a comfy chair, you know, like, or a really big mug to hold my warm coffee. And they're like, I everything would be, very realistic
Jessica Pressly:Mhmm.
Dayna pereira:Rather than the ocean is purple and the sun is blue and there's a I mean, what a beautiful thing. Kids have this luxury of such a beautiful imagination that is kind of beat out of us when we grow up.
Cynthia Clark:It is. And, honestly, I think that's the big transition that we're going through right now is that we're going back we're breaking away from that logic, and we're going back into the truest, simplest forms of what's inside of us because that's where all the answers are. It's not gonna be from him or her or the TV or whatever. It's inside. And when we start trusting that deep intuition, that deep, deep knowing that is always there, always there, our life gets simpler and simpler and simpler.
Cynthia Clark:And everything, all the distractions, all the crumbling that's happening around us
Jessica Pressly:Mhmm.
Cynthia Clark:It doesn't affect us in the way that maybe it used to. So then you start to create this new baseline of what your your your baseline to life is. Right? So you're you're not dipping way down here anymore. You're dipping maybe here, and then you're dipping here.
Cynthia Clark:Because life's not gonna be perfect. You're not always gonna be way up here. There's still gonna be oceans. I always say there's there's a catapult effect that starts to happen, especially when you do this work. So you start to move forward.
Cynthia Clark:Right? And you're like, oh, things are great. I I'm having all this awareness with my thoughts and all this stuff, and then life happens. And instead of it looking like a a lot of people will come back and be like, oh my gosh. This is happening again.
Cynthia Clark:But it's just your healing healing like this, and maybe you're on the catapult. So you're going back to revisit it, and then you gain the knowledge, and then boom, you're ahead more. So it's almost like those dark nights of the souls. Those things that happen always moving forward. Always.
Cynthia Clark:It's what we do.
Dayna pereira:So what about when like, you you said, whenever you're getting in your it gets simpler and simpler and simpler, like, your your life simpler, simpler, simpler. But in order to kind of make it in this world or live in this world that we're in right now, there's so much chaos and it's filled with so much stuff. There's social media, there's TV, there's podcasts, there's just so many things like are how do we balance that? Like, how are we are we meant to balance that, or are we meant to just get simpler and simpler and simpler?
Cynthia Clark:So when I say simpler and simpler, I mean, it's simpler because your internal life and your internal mechanism is calm. That's that's your foundation instead of being in fight or flight all of the time. So you can take the information that's coming from the outside world. You can process it and discern it and go, okay. Do I wanna hold on to that?
Cynthia Clark:Or do I want to move forward with something that's actually resonates and that's the truth? So, like, a good example would be watching the news. Ugh. Yeah. Are we getting anything from that watching it every single day that we're taking that's bettering our life?
Cynthia Clark:Is knowing every single awful thing that's happening in the world helping you in any way? No. For me, it's not.
Dayna pereira:It's so hard. It's especially if, like, I mean, especially if you're empathic.
Jessica Pressly:Part.
Cynthia Clark:Yeah. Yeah. And so then what is the option? You're gonna find out about the things that you need to find out about. But can we take our power back in that moment and go, okay.
Cynthia Clark:Do I really need to know every single thing? And can I can I come back to having a little bit more silence in my life? Mhmm.
Jessica Pressly:Yeah. Whenever you're saying that, I'm thinking, like, you know, kind of back to where we started, like this idea of, like, programming the subconscious or what we're allowing in. And so whenever I let's say I'm in a deep scroll and I see something come on and they're like, you know, you're this is gonna happen or the fear mongering, like, all of these things, I have to think to myself, like, okay. Is this something that I wanna allow my body to generate feelings around? Because when I generate feelings around them, especially negative ones, it's kind of anchoring it in my body, and I don't wanna hold on to those things.
Jessica Pressly:So oftentimes whenever I feel those coming in, what used to be, like, my curiosity to be, like, oh, no. What's the terrible thing that's gonna happen that I need to be prepared for? Mhmm. Right? I might sit for a second and be, like, oh, that's generating some fear.
Jessica Pressly:Scroll. Like, on to the next thing. I don't because that's not a feeling I want. That's the feeling that, like, I'm doing all of this work to move through. Like, I wanna move through fear.
Jessica Pressly:I don't wanna keep, allowing the messages to come in and, like, leave me paralyzed in this fear state so that I'm not creating the most beautiful life that I wanna have for myself or the most open heart that I have for my for myself and for other people. So, yeah, I feel like when you're talking about, like, simplifying things, like, that's the goal. Right? Like, I wanna be in that place of calm existence. And so that the other things that are coming in, I can discern for myself.
Jessica Pressly:Like, is this something that I feel like I wanna carry with me, or is this not ring true for me?
Cynthia Clark:And it doesn't mean that you don't have to have empathy for what's happening because you absolutely do. That's part of being human, and I think that's part of the stage that we are starting to get to as our consciousness rises. That's another thing that's happening. But it's like, can I can I feel it and then move above it and see a bigger picture and know that there is literally divinity in everything, every situation?
Jessica Pressly:Yeah. Also, you know, I feel like whenever these, like, mass things are coming up that we're all watching. Right? Like, if you grab the attention of the masses and you're putting negative attention on this one thing, you are lowering everyone's vibration to that thing, to that frequency. And so we're all, like, getting more dense instead of more light.
Jessica Pressly:And so sometimes I feel like I'm doing my community service by, like, not playing into that. I'm, like, nope. I'm not giving my energy to that. I know this is a real thing. I know that this is happening, but I can choose if I wanna dig into that and live in that vibration or that frequency by giving my negative energy to that.
Jessica Pressly:And I'm like, no, I will send my love there, I will send my light there, I I feel for people who are going like, give my negative energy. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna build the power in that.
Cynthia Clark:Yeah. Don't perpetuate it. Right.
Dayna pereira:Right. Right. But what about the people that are meant to do that? I mean, I do think that there are people that are here that their calling is to do those things. Right?
Dayna pereira:Their calling is to pay attention to those things or to push forward in the world, whether it's, you know, the stuff that's going on war wise or whatever. Well, you think there's different people that are meant to do different things?
Cynthia Clark:I do, but I think here's my question. Is is the way that we've gone about change really to?
Dayna pereira:No. You don't even need to finish it. It's a new.
Cynthia Clark:So if we as a human race and as a consciousness understood how power powerful we are, how powerful our minds are, how powerful our souls are, and that we are not just a human in this body, there's so much more than that, I don't think we would fight against something. I think we would build to create something else. And we would put all of our attention there because we know how powerful we are and how we are and how getting everyone to focus here would literally dissolve everything that's happening there.
Dayna pereira:Yeah. Well, I mean, I think that's part of the reason that we do shows like this. Right? It's like one at a time, reach who you can reach. Somebody's going to hear this, and it's going to speak to them.
Dayna pereira:And I don't know. I think that that's that's kind of what we're all doing here.
Cynthia Clark:Yeah. I mean, that's what I always hope is, you know, it's it's the the shining light. As long as you're shining your light, someone's gonna see it. And then that light shines on someone else, and then that light shines on someone else. And then it's this beautiful ripple effect that happens while you're still doing your own inner work and and staying in your own lane and taking care of you and those things.
Cynthia Clark:But the it's like the dichotomy. Right? So it's like taking care of you, but then that allows everything to take care of themselves too because that what you're doing is you're shining everything everywhere else, and then that allows someone else to do it.
Dayna pereira:So true. Yeah. So talk to us a little bit more about some visualization stuff.
Cynthia Clark:Yeah. So visualization is basically accessing that part of your mind where your imagination is. Mhmm. So, like, when you're visualizing, it doesn't always have to be, oh, I can see this happening because there's a lot of people that aren't very visual. So maybe it's more and I like to tell people that when they're in session too.
Cynthia Clark:Maybe it's more of a feeling. You can feel it. You can see it. You can, be how you were when you were there. So, like, when I'm working with dancers or with athletes, if they're trying to better their stage presence or feel more confident, it's really helpful if they've had an emotion to tie that into.
Cynthia Clark:So, like, we're gonna anchor into the last time that they won first overall. Right? Or the last time that they walked off stage and not even having to win. When they walked off stage and they knew they laid it all out on that dance floor, they knew they killed it. That is the feeling that we're going for.
Cynthia Clark:And then we anchor that in for their next performance and then for their next performance. But that can be the same for anything else. So your feelings are just as important as what you're actually seeing. And if you're not seeing, your feelings are important too. So it's it's more than just what you're actually seeing in your mind.
Cynthia Clark:It's like the feeling that's behind it, the emotion that it creates, excitement that it creates. And that becomes an anchor for drawing that closer to you and making it more of a reality. It's just like, what's his name? Tiger Woods? He's talked about it.
Cynthia Clark:He does visualization every single time he plays. Like, that that's literally how he makes his game better is by seeing it actually happen, seeing everything exact. And he's talked about how that how that has played out. Like, what he has seen has played out in his game.
Jessica Pressly:So is there a level of, like like, the more detailed you are in your vision or you're feeling, like, the better the outcome? Like, if you can if it you stay in that state longer and you're visualizing longer, like, how do you become most effective at this?
Cynthia Clark:So I would say it's your the motion and the more the more, the more real that it can become for you. So, like, if you think about a moment right now where you were so happy you were elated, like, may maybe one of your most happy days of your lives. Right? There's an emotion that comes with that. There's a feeling that comes with that.
Cynthia Clark:Maybe there's a smell. Maybe you can see something like that happened there or there was a flower. All of those things are very real in your brain still. So that makes it more real for the outcome versus going, oh, yeah. This is what I want to happen.
Cynthia Clark:This is what I see. But if you put the emotion behind it, it becomes real to your brain and to your body.
Jessica Pressly:So if I'm say I am trying to visualize something that I've never done before, can I use a past experience that maybe would give me the feeling that I'm after and attach that experience to a new outcome?
Cynthia Clark:Ding ding ding. Yep. Yep. That's how powerful you are. Yes.
Cynthia Clark:Yes. Very cool.
Dayna pereira:So I'm not sure if I learned this with you or but one of the emotions like, one of the things that I do and I will actually get giddy, like, to the point where my whole body will go tingly and be like, oh, and it was I always go back to whenever I found out I was having a girl Like, that that feeling, like, that elation where my whole body just went fucking numb and I was just so happy. I can access that feeling like that immediately.
Cynthia Clark:Yep.
Dayna pereira:And it will immediately, like, my smile will go across my face. The whole body goes numb and tingly, and I'm like, oh, holy shit. It is amazing how powerful that one moment was Mhmm. That I could access it so quickly now.
Jessica Pressly:Yep. Yep.
Cynthia Clark:Next time, Dana, there's a state where maybe you're in fear about something or you're feeling anxious, access that instead.
Dayna pereira:It seems so simple whenever you just say it. Like, you're like, just do that. And I'm like, oh, shit. Yeah.
Jessica Pressly:Well, that's what
Cynthia Clark:I tell clients that. That is half of the battle is you can learn all the tools, but the real test is when you are in that moment, are you accessing them? Are you remembering to use them? Are you go are you creating those new pathways in your brain? That's that's way more than half the battle.
Jessica Pressly:So I guess my follow-up question is then, what is what would you categorize the difference between, like, visualization and manifestation? Is there a difference? Are they 1 and the same?
Cynthia Clark:I don't think so. They're all so interweaved and inter layered. Like, when I hear people talk about, gosh, even, like, even, like, stages of NLP and all it's all it's all so connected because you're accessing the same parts of your brain. And then another beautiful way is, like, through breath work or through embodiment movements and somatic stuff, somatic healing where you're actually moving the pain out of your body. Or EFT, which is tapping.
Cynthia Clark:You're you're touching on those points that that release stuck and stagnant emotions because our emotions get stuck in certain parts of our our bodies. So that's really powerful too.
Jessica Pressly:Love that.
Dayna pereira:Yeah. Yeah. Holy shit. Well, we have kept you for almost an hour now, and I really wanna make sure that we touch on your new show that you've just joined recently. Tell us about your podcast.
Cynthia Clark:Yeah. So the new podcast is it's actually season 2 of sovereign AF, and that is sovereign as fuck. As book.
Dayna pereira:My favorite word.
Jessica Pressly:Me me too.
Cynthia Clark:And, we're really diving into solutions. So if we haven't noticed, things are starting to fall apart around us in in the world, and that doesn't always have to be a bad thing. So when systems start to fall apart, we need other options. And I feel like a lot of things are going back to the simplest of ways. So homeopathic remedies, home studying, learning how to grow and and, can your food, sovereign solutions as far as healing and inner healing and doing your own healing work.
Cynthia Clark:I was telling you guys about becoming, like, understanding, like, state nationalists and your birth certificate and the meaning of that. And there's just so many different ways to be sovereign, And I think that's what we're shifting into right now is finding finding our own sovereignty again, and that starts with ourselves. It starts with our intuition. It starts with maybe not it starts with questioning everything, but then not going into that logical part of your mind and going into your body. Because the answers are always there.
Dayna pereira:I love that. And where where can people go to listen or to find you guys?
Cynthia Clark:Yeah. So we have a Facebook group. It's called Sovereign AF on and we go live every Tuesday at 5:30 PM PST. And then, I also have a website. I just rebuilt it.
Dayna pereira:It's a good time. So pretty.
Cynthia Clark:Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm adding more and more stuff. So it's like, it's getting there.
Cynthia Clark:Like, I need to add a page for the kids and all that stuff that I do with them. And that is called rise with cynthia.com. And I have a couple of cool things coming up too. I'm gonna do, like, a one day. I'm thinking 1 or 2 days in the next few weeks.
Cynthia Clark:I'll have more information for you of where I just teach the basics and we do a session. So maybe one day, we're gonna teach the basics of hypnosis and, even the the background of, like, what subconscious mind, those kinds of things. And then we're gonna do a session, and then the next day, we're gonna do another session. So maybe we'll focus on the cool thing is is that I get to tell people this too, is that you get to do all this work inside your own mind. Like, you don't have to sit there and have therapeutic conversations with me.
Cynthia Clark:Like, your mind is gonna take you where it needs to go to do the healing. You're never gonna touch on something that you're not ready to heal or to open or to peel back the layers on. So that's a beautiful thing. So that's gonna come up too, and I think I'm gonna keep that super, super, affordable just to get myself back out there. I've been doing this for 10 years now, which is
Dayna pereira:Yeah.
Cynthia Clark:Mind blowing. And life has happened in between there, and so now I'm coming back.
Jessica Pressly:Well, I love that. And I love also how you just, like, empower your clients to be able to do these things for themselves. You know, I feel like for so so long, we've been trapped in this wheel of, like, needing a facilitator to help us do things or get through things. And so I think that the beauty is, like, you know, teaching the man to fish. Right?
Jessica Pressly:Yes. Absolutely. Love that. You know what?
Cynthia Clark:Trick for you. So one of the easiest ways to put you yourself into self hypnosis, get a book, start reading super slow. So start reading every single word really, really slow. And as you keep going on and reading, you're gonna take yourself there. You'll start to feel yourself go.
Jessica Pressly:Yeah. And so would you set an intention prior to doing that? Mhmm.
Cynthia Clark:We didn't even touch on intentions.
Jessica Pressly:I know. I know.
Dayna pereira:We have so many
Jessica Pressly:messages to bring
Dayna pereira:you back for.
Jessica Pressly:I know. Love it. I'm definitely gonna try that. You're gonna hear from me later.
Cynthia Clark:Yeah. So you can, like, write out something like a script for yourself. Like, I am this or, this is what Cynthia has a $1,000,000 in her bank account. Whatever. But it doesn't have to be anything like that.
Cynthia Clark:It can be like Cynthia does, you know, is peaceful and calm and serene. All those things, just write yourself out of script or what you want your life to look like and then start to read it really, really, really slow. You're gonna put yourself in brainwaves.
Jessica Pressly:Alright. So should I write very excited. I know. I know. Hold on.
Jessica Pressly:I need one more clarifying question. You too. Because I gotta get this right. Am I writing I or Jess?
Cynthia Clark:So I would do both, actually.
Jessica Pressly:Oh, okay.
Cynthia Clark:So I've heard that I is very powerful, but then I've also heard recently that putting talking to yourself in 3rd person makes it almost even more real.
Jessica Pressly:Alright. I'm gonna try it.
Cynthia Clark:So might as well try both.
Jessica Pressly:Yeah. Right?
Dayna pereira:Yeah. For sure. I mean and I'm I'm thinking about it in my head going, well, you're only Jess in this lifetime. Right? So maybe saying Jess is very powerful because that's just you right now.
Cynthia Clark:I like that. I like that
Jessica Pressly:a lot.
Cynthia Clark:I'm But then again, there's all these other lives happening at the same time. So, you know
Dayna pereira:That's so many things there. I'm like, we just need to take out a notebook and start writing down all of the things that we touched on briefly in this episode that we absolutely need to come back to because everybody's like, what the fuck just happened?
Jessica Pressly:Yeah. Yeah. We go deep. Too many rabbit holes to go down. We go deep,
Cynthia Clark:baby.
Dayna pereira:This was about
Jessica Pressly:the weather here.
Dayna pereira:Yeah. Go, weather. This was so I'm so happy that you were finally able to come on. This was really, really fun, and I sincerely hope that we have you back on, like, a 100 more times.
Jessica Pressly:Oh, I love it. I love it. Thank you. Thank you.
Dayna pereira:And until next time.
Jessica Pressly:We're on bedding,
Cynthia Clark:baby. Yeah. On We're on a journey, baby. We're run batting, baby. We're run batting.