EP 25 | Young, Bears, and Rich

In this lively conversation, Grizz and Ice Bear explore a variety of topics ranging from unique beer flavors and personal preferences to nostalgic childhood memories and humorous anecdotes. They delve into the world of seasonal beverages, particularly pumpkin spice, and share their thoughts on different dog breeds. The discussion also touches on sports, particularly football and basketball, and the scripted nature of entertainment in wrestling. The episode is filled with laughter, personal stories, and engaging banter, making it a delightful listen for fans of humor and casual conversation.

HOSTS:
Grizz: https://www.instagram.com/senpaistrength
Ice Bear: https://www.instagram.com/_._icebear_._

UNTAPPD ACCOUNTS:
http://untappd.com/user/IceBearBeer
http://untappd.com/user/GrizzlyBearBeer

CHAPTERS:

00:00 Introduction and Beer Cracking Rituals
03:33 Exploring Unique Beer Varieties
06:26 The Evolution of Beer Tasting Experiences
09:26 Reflections on Aging and Beer Culture
12:22 Self-Checkout Experiences and ID Challenges
15:23 Cultural Comparisons: Bucky's vs. Wawa
18:29 Pumpkin Spice and Seasonal Flavors
22:14 Maui Gyms and Austin Vibes
23:27 Soup Season and Comfort Food
25:23 Cooking Mishaps and Kitchen Antics
26:55 Describing Each Other: A Fun Challenge
28:31 Beer Tasting: Yay Ladybugs
30:31 Childhood Memories: Bugs and Nature
34:20 Negative Aura Moments from Youth
44:54 Cinematic Fashion and Iconic Performances
48:17 Debating Dog Breeds and Personal Preferences
55:47 The Quirks of Pet Personalities
58:24 NFL Insights and Game Analysis
01:01:22 The Scripted Nature of Sports Entertainment
01:08:07 Outro

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Grizz

Texas never saw a more hefty bear.

Host

Ice Bear

The fairest bear in all of Maple Land

What is 2 Bears 2 Beers?

"2 Bears 2 Beers" is a fun and laid-back podcast where two friends, often indulging in a beer or two, chat about anything and everything. From quirky stories to random thoughts, it’s all about enjoying great conversation and sharing laughs in a relaxed, no-pressure vibe. Perfect for anyone looking to unwind and have a good time!

Ice Bear (00:32)
now you'll notice I didn't actually crack mine. Why you ask? Why didn't I crack mine? ask? Well, let me tell you, because mine comes with instructions and instruction one is I become an anthropomorphic horse. Now I call the brewery. I already did that. I ordered this beer. Now I am supposed to, as a horse go,

Grizz (00:36)
That was a powerful crack.

Yeah, I should give you the all switcheroo.

Ice Bear (01:02)
Three times. Now I hold it crotch level.

people. And now and only now am I supposed to rocket pour this into the cup which scares me so this might explode everywhere.

Grizz (01:21)
Let's see this.

Ice Bear (01:21)
These

always freak me out. God, God, okay.

Grizz (01:37)
Wow, that was skill.

Ice Bear (01:43)
The fear coursing through my veins right now is intense. Also, I don't know what I was expecting this to look like. It is not that. This looks like a smoothie.

Grizz (01:55)
That's like fucking applesauce. That looks like pureed applesauce.

Ice Bear (01:59)
Alright, what do you have over there before I introduce this weird little thing?

Grizz (02:04)
So I was, so here's the thing, old ice bear, you just went and just put all the bits out to the public. You know, the funny thing about that is...

Ice Bear (02:12)
Ha ha ha.

Grizz (02:20)
You know, it's a power move. I'll give you that. But it's not the first time he's done that. He's done that plenty of times in our, since we've known each other so much so that that, that thing was called the icicle, icicle brewing. This this, this thing right here. And one thing about said icicle is that it's enchanting with enchantments or so I'm told.

Ice Bear (02:26)
you

⁓ very nice.

Grizz (02:48)
I'm not speaking from experience, but I've been told. And this is the Rotator series. It's a hazy Ipa, a 6.9. now. Number 23.

Ice Bear (03:03)
Hey now.

Grizz (03:05)
This hazy EPA features an exciting new hop variety called Anchovy with a Foog, delivering notes and aromas of watermelon candy, juicy citrus and tropical fruit. The oil painting depicts the Pusik Peak, I don't know if that's what it's called, rising dramatically above granite plateaus in radiant golden larches. The artwork is from Nathan Tremlin.

get Adam at NathanTremlin at MSN.com. I didn't even know that was still a thing.

Ice Bear (03:38)
The way they introduced that reminded me of galloping abs.

Grizz (03:43)
⁓ really is.

Brewing can by Icicle Brewing in Leavenworth, Washington.

Ice Bear (03:46)
pearlescent sperms.

Her towel is wet with water.

Grizz (03:57)
⁓

You

Ice Bear (04:01)
to Rolf.

Grizz (04:05)
The galloping abs things was fucking, it was a masterpiece.

Ice Bear (04:10)
Shimmering with so many orgasms. ⁓ Is that still up there on the old channel? If you want to have a hoot, people go back to the Sempai Strength podcast. that looks nice. And somewhere on there, what did we call that? Alonzo's Corner?

Grizz (04:16)
yeah, it is.

Alonzo's corner. Yeah,

Alonzo. Was it Alonzo Tigerheart?

Ice Bear (04:30)
Alonzo

Tigerheart. Yeah, that was fucking funny. ⁓ those were good times. ⁓ This is, and I say this not because I'm a little pumpkin slut. Not because I'm in the spirit of the season, but because genuinely I might have found another. This is really good.

Grizz (04:55)
That looks like straight up fucking like pumpkin puree.

Ice Bear (04:58)
Okay, so here's what this is. This SPBW, which by the way, I had to look it up. That stands for Small Pony Barrel Works. This is a smooth pumpkin, a red smoothie sour, aged in oak barrels packaged with pureed pumpkin, mango, brown sugar, vanilla and spices.

Grizz (05:23)
Mango and pumpkin, that's an interesting one.

Ice Bear (05:23)
It

It is good. It's I would say mango is the predominant flavor over pumpkin. But it's like if you took a mango smoothie, and then you added like a pumpkin spice packet and mixed it in or something.

Grizz (05:34)
Interesting.

interesting

Ice Bear (05:48)
Mm.

Grizz (05:48)
I've never,

I don't think I've seen a beard that's not like, like an imperial like cream stout, some shit that looks as thick as that does.

Ice Bear (05:58)
This is, it's very, it is clearly, it wouldn't surprise me if maybe that's why you have to shake it. Maybe it is kind of a smoothie.

Grizz (06:06)
Yeah, I've never seen a beard that requires you to shake it like that.

Ice Bear (06:12)
Yeah,

I've seen a couple like of the the nitro cans that want you to do it, but this would this would be the first one. Now, right off the bat.

Grizz (06:16)
Okay, yeah, that's fair. A little, yeah.

you

Ice Bear (06:26)
I will remove it from S contention just because it's a 5 % so we're in barely beer territory. But A plus is not out of the realm of possibility. It's very, very tasty.

Grizz (06:42)
Both of us were sub 7 boys today.

Ice Bear (06:45)
Mm-hmm.

for shame.

Grizz (06:51)
This one here is, it's very, very, very bright. And so I do like that. ⁓ It's not very happy, which is kind of, I guess it's more fruit forward, but even at that, like.

It smells more tropical than it tastes. And I'm a little sad that the watermelon didn't pop out as much as like it says it does, but it's not a bad beer. It's definitely not in a territory, but it's like, it's enjoyable. do. I got, I got a four pack of it and I'm not, I'm not mad about it.

Ice Bear (07:18)
Mm.

Okay.

Nice.

That's a common review of the icicle. I'm not mad about it. ⁓

Grizz (07:37)
I've actually heard it's enchanting.

Ice Bear (07:42)
The 6.9 % is fun. That's a happy accident.

Grizz (07:48)
It's the only thing better is the sell the team can. Yeah. It was like that. It was perfect. A little like cherry on top.

Ice Bear (07:53)
Yeah, the Luka 77. That's spot on. Yeah.

Oh, there. So we're, it's, well, it's the 12th now. We can talk about it again. Time's passed. There is one I saw that, what was it called? It was like twin, it was some twin towers thing. And half the pack was 9 % and the other half was 11%. And it was like, it was, I was like, this is, yeah, okay, it's fine. And the art was really funny. I'm gonna try and find it and send it to you later.

Grizz (08:23)
That's excellent.

It's, it's, I don't know.

I think, ⁓

You thinking that time's passed and 11 jokes are just fine ⁓ You know the funny funny one I think it wasn't that ⁓ I don't know how long it was like right after or like a while after But I'm pretty sure I may be wrong. I think it was from San Antonio. I think it was from my hometown. I'm not too sure For whatever reason I believe it is but there was like an old mattress

Ice Bear (08:40)
We're 24 years deep.

Grizz (09:04)
commercial like an old mattress. There was this whole thing. There's like an old mattress salesman thing. And they like lined up two mattresses and the guy went and knocked him down with these prices.

Ice Bear (09:16)
I'm fairly sure that was San Antonio, I'm pretty sure.

Grizz (09:20)
Yeah. ⁓ It's hilarious.

Ice Bear (09:26)
I think one of the things that says is that like, as a society, the healing process is done. Cause it's not like that's a joke or two. Like that's a pretty common thing to see on tippy-toppies and or reels now. They're pretty prevalent.

Grizz (09:43)
Yeah.

Yeah, largely so.

Ice Bear (09:48)
And I also think you've got a whole generation of meme makers that weren't alive for that shit, so they don't even know.

Grizz (09:54)
Which is the crazy thing to

think, right?

Ice Bear (10:00)
Yeah, we're that old.

reason hard.

Grizz (10:11)
I was looking at I was looking at I was checking out and I was buying a beard through a self checkout thing. And on there it says need to be what the fuck was it 2004. I think it's like you need to be 2004 to be 21. I was like, what the fuck?

Ice Bear (10:31)
my god.

People people that were born when I was in high school are buying beer now.

Grizz (10:37)
sans

sans sans y2k they're they're right that was like holy shit 2004 that's insane

Ice Bear (10:43)
That is bananas.

I don't like that at all.

Now I know I never get carded anymore.

Grizz (10:54)
Yeah, I can't so like I guess I'm that's really really crack down on it or whatever but like I'm in Carter so much over here. It's like I'm not used to this shit at all at all

Ice Bear (11:03)
Mm.

I don't get carded anywhere. Now, in fairness, I don't think I have been since I was like 25.

Grizz (11:14)
the other so like when I was like 17 in restaurants and shit I wouldn't get carded

Ice Bear (11:19)
I think if you have a beard, people generally leave you alone.

Grizz (11:22)
Yeah. ⁓ yeah, so it's, it's that beard tattoos and kind of like, know what I mean? This, ⁓ but yeah, like I didn't get carded for fucking ever. And then I cut my hair. I got carded a couple of times. Like it was such a thing that I was out with the tiger and we were at the Shabu Shabu place. No, not Shabu Shabu. We were at Hoppot. There's this Hoppot place and I asked for a beer and then she asked for my card, right? Like she was IDing me.

Ice Bear (11:41)
Mm-hmm. Okay.

Mm-hmm.

Grizz (11:51)
It did not click. I haven't been carted in so years. So it's like, I guess we're paying ahead of time. It's weird, but all right. It's like, give her my fucking, I gave her my fucking debit card. I she was asking for a payment. She's like, but no. And then it's like, Oh, and then the tiger's just like looking like I'm a fucking moron. And I'm like, I was so fucking thrown off. Like it's never fucking happened. And again, I would be out like at 17, 18 and like people getting drinks.

Ice Bear (11:57)
You

Grizz (12:19)
and people were getting beers and they'd be like one for you too. I'm like, yeah. You know, and like, so you know what? Why not? I'm not driving today. Let's do it. You know, you know, but like, I was so fucking thrown off about that. It was, it was weird.

Ice Bear (12:22)
Yeah, sure. Why not?

That's reasonable. That is very reasonable though to be confused by that.

Grizz (12:40)
Yeah, cuz like, I mean, here, I heard it everywhere except for like the bodega because he I've gotten there so many times. He's like, see you next time. Yeah. Yeah.

Ice Bear (12:42)
I think.

He knows he remembers you. Yeah.

⁓ I think here and some of the other places have lived, it's not to card you if you don't look 21. It's to card you if there's any doubt that you're not over, like, no, like 60. Like they want you to look old before they're, they're even going to consider not IDing you. So like if a grandma walks in, they're not going to hassle her, but like everyone else, sorry. Let's see it.

Grizz (13:05)
over 30 oh shit

Damn.

I

mean, I guess that's fair. guess I get like family stuff and everything like ⁓ dad used to, I think he just worked at this one. I don't think he was a manager, but anyways, he was part of this wine company in a small town in Texas. That was really awesome. Well anyways, what does it look like? TA.

Ice Bear (13:51)
Okay.

Okay.

Yeah. huh.

Mm-hmm.

Grizz (14:17)
Yeah, so the guy and he's like this foreign European like I think Spanish maybe French like in some type of like, you know some type of Latin based European country, I don't know where he's from, but he uh

Ice Bear (14:31)
Mm.

Grizz (14:35)
So he went nice kind of goofy old guy like he's one of those where he's he's like Mr. Bean. You know, has 10 tensions are well all the time. But like he kind of fucks things up a little bit. You know what mean? He's one of those kind of guys. But he's super nice. Well, well, anyways, this is painting the picture is a little lanky old guy. So he goes, somebody asked to buy a bottle of wine thing he goes, he charges them. It's all great. Whatever, right? He's like, thank you. This man. They leave the building and then they come back with a fucking cop.

Ice Bear (14:49)
Okay.

Grizz (15:05)
He's like, you just saw him going to a fucking minor. So they arrested him there. They arrested him. And so he went to fuck in the holding cell and he's like freaking out crying and calling the store. And my dad's like, I'll get you out. Don't worry. Like, I'm going to bail you out, whatever they get. He's flusing as she's free. Cause he's like, again, he's this dingus kind of guy, right? Like he's not, ⁓ he's not, he's not, know, criminal.

Ice Bear (15:06)
damn.

⁓ no.

Holy sh- holy shit.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Grizz (15:34)
Yeah, he got so you got popped for that. That was like that was a whole ass thing.

Ice Bear (15:38)
So hold on, at the start of this, said you were to self check out. How does that work? Do you like scan your driver's license or something?

Grizz (15:44)
⁓ yeah so like people go for self checkout I'll go you buy it and then it flags on the screen for somebody to come to help you and then from there they either they ask for your ID and then you manually type in your birthday or they just get in your ID but if they know you since I could go there all the time like since they know you they're like it's you and then just fucking you know push it through

Ice Bear (16:02)
Okay.

Mm. Yeah.

Got it. Have you switched over your ID yet?

Grizz (16:15)
because technically I'm not a resident in Washington yet, I don't have a, I don't have a, an.

Ice Bear (16:19)
⁓ true. Yeah, it's a pretty

long grace period. think you have like 90 days or something. Once you are. is it a month now? Okay.

Grizz (16:26)
I think it's a month.

So I figure when I actually sign the lease and stuff then I'll

Ice Bear (16:36)
Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense.

Now, first of all,

A plus. It's fucking great. If this was a higher percentage, or if there was any indication it was a beer, I would consider like S minus kind of territory because it really tastes wise it is outstanding. But if I did not know better, I would not think this was a beer. just I would think this is a weird kind of slightly sour smoothie. The thickness of the smoothie, they had the flavor.

Grizz (16:53)
8 plus.

Mm-hmm.

Ice Bear (17:22)
It's just good. It's just a tasty drink.

Grizz (17:26)
It's a spiked V8, fall V8.

Ice Bear (17:29)
Yeah, yes, honestly, that's what it that's kind of what it feels like and you know, it's like five is I Don't know I could have a six pack and probably be okay I'd like shit my brains out from all the pineapple and the mango and the pumpkin but

Grizz (17:37)
You know, you hate me.

Ice Bear (17:50)
That's tasty though. It's quite tasty.

Grizz (17:50)
wild. Tense!

Ice Bear (17:55)
And I am a little pumpkin slut.

Okay, I shit you not. The amount of pumpkin coursing through my veins this month is just stupid. I have anytime I see anything I have had like the the cold brew, the iced coffee, and the hot coffee. Pumpkin spice thing it everywhere I can find it. I've had all the Tim's ones I've had the McDonald's ones I've had the Starbucks ones. I love a ball.

Grizz (17:59)
Ha ha ha ha!

Ha ha ha!

Ice Bear (18:28)
It's just shades of greatness.

Grizz (18:32)
So funny.

do you, do you like like pumpkin pie on it too?

Ice Bear (18:37)
No, that's the, I don't, like,

I could totally leave it. I don't know what it is about, like, the combination of, like, pumpkin, cinnamon, nutmeg, like, all those fall flavors rolled into one is just like...

Grizz (18:51)
But isn't that a pumpkin pie though? Like isn't pumpkin pie like those flavors?

Ice Bear (18:55)
I get it. don't like I should I should really like but I just I do. It might be. Yep. No, it might be a texture thing.

Grizz (19:00)
Yeah. Is it a texture thing or is it actually just flavor?

Yeah, the mush, like it's... That's fair. I don't fuck with pumpkin pie. I'll eat it. But I'm not a fan of it.

Ice Bear (19:09)
Yep. Yep. Might be a texture thing.

Cause like, you give me a like, and I've had these already, if you give me a pumpkin spice muffin, I'll gobble that up. Yeah. A hundred percent.

⁓

Does, what is the Washington equivalent of like a Bucky's or a Wawa? They don't really have one, they?

Grizz (19:47)
I don't think so. I've seen some in Oregon and Washington. I think it seems like Sinclair, but it's not like what kids are all about. It's just I just don't see those in Texas or like New Mexico or Arizona, Utah, like any of the areas surrounding Texas.

Ice Bear (19:54)
It's not the same shit.

Yeah.

Did I know Texas is Bucky's land, but is Wawa out there yet? Do you have, have you ever been to one?

Grizz (20:11)
never now I've I know I've been to a while but I've never but there's there they're definitely not in I don't see him in any part in like central west like you know in Texas and like on because isn't it just like they're in some of the southern east states either Eastern states right like yeah

Ice Bear (20:20)
Okay. Yeah.

It's... Yeah, that's why I thought maybe

they made it out there. They started in like the mid-Atlantic, like Philly area. And they've, they've, they've, they've like... I mean, they are in Georgia now, but like they started in Philly.

Grizz (20:33)
okay. I thought they were like in like Georgia and shit.

Yeah,

I gotcha. Okay. I thought was that they were like the above Florida, like Georgia, like Georgia to the Carolinas. You know what I always thought they were in that area. Like they started in that area.

Ice Bear (20:48)
Yeah, no.

Because that's like, Maryland is like royal farms and Wawa like every town has the smallest town has one of each. And much like Bucky's, you know, it's like, they've got 24 pumps, you go inside and the foods like actually legit food, they've normally got like a pretty good deli. They have a handful of seasonal things. But the thing about Wawa is their coffee is dirt cheap. And it's on point.

Grizz (21:18)
My buggies got like 50 to 75 pumps, but you know.

Ice Bear (21:22)

Grizz (21:24)
Yeah, no, these buggy pumps are like Yeah, like it's

Ice Bear (21:28)
So

Bucky's is like, it's a thing. So you're never waiting for a pump.

Grizz (21:32)
Yeah, yeah, no yeah, that's...

Never. it's that. You got the beef jerky counter. can get, you know, their deli thing's solid. It's great. You can get Texas cutting boards, cast iron skillets, hunting gear. You can get, you know, like it's, basically everything, like everything you need there.

Ice Bear (21:37)
I like that, good for them.

Mm.

⁓ okay.

Grizz (21:59)
You some Dallas Cowboy merch? want some Texas Rangers merch? want Texas teams merch? What's there? You want, ⁓ you want like, it's not Oakley's. I forget what, ⁓ sunglass things are there, but yeah, this kind of got it. It got everything. Actually this right here, this right here, this Texas forever shirt, Bucky's. No, it just says Texas.

Ice Bear (22:13)
Maui gyms.

Does it say Austin always on the back?

Grizz (22:25)
forever in the year Texas was established 1845.

Ice Bear (22:28)
Clear eyes,

full hearts, can't lose.

Grizz (22:34)
Texas, Texas.

Ice Bear (22:36)
forever. Austin always. Shout out Pan.

that'd be great if there's just a comment. It's just like a sad little panda.

Grizz (22:55)
Write it together.

Ice Bear (22:55)
⁓

I gotta crack my next one, I'll do the same.

You got wait, are you done? Finish. I'll wait. Yeah. Yeah. You finished that. You chug that. I will delicately have my egg drop soup.

Grizz (23:04)
Hold on, know what? Let me check this and we'll do it. Okay.

What about here are things the chicken amadukhan right? You make that ramen you pull out the noodles and then while the broth is still boiling you drop egg in it like egg drop soup Then you pour on top fire

Ice Bear (23:27)
Mm-hmm. Yep. Mm-hmm.

Yep.

Yeah, we've had, serious been making a lot of soups. We've had, uh, A ton of a Rose called though, lately. It's just, it's the best time. A little, a little bit chilly. All the hot food tastes even better now.

Grizz (23:50)
Like when I was called those solid like the Mexican one it's not soupy though, so I like both

Ice Bear (23:57)
Mm.

Grizz (23:59)
Both of them are nice.

Ice Bear (24:01)
Did you just crack off camera, you son of a turkey?

Grizz (24:04)
I told it, I told it was.

Look at that, we both were off this time.

Ice Bear (24:11)
What were you doing? Were

you cracking something else?

Grizz (24:14)
No, I cracked it in here because I'm a little poor enough for the homie in here and then I'm going to.

Ice Bear (24:16)
Okay.

all

right, there we go.

yeah, here, I'll do it in this.

And all over my pants.

Grizz (24:31)
Okay, we just we

just synced again cuz I just dropped my shit. I didn't make any of it into the cooking class.

Ice Bear (24:42)
Well...

Grizz (24:43)
God, God damnit.

Ice Bear (24:45)
Well, we're we are an elegant and sophisticated bunch as always.

Grizz (24:49)
this homie cracking ain't working. I'm pretty sure that's.

Ice Bear (24:52)
That's a sign.

Grizz (24:54)
Alright, I got some.

Ice Bear (25:01)
I'm cold and wet with water from the shower, which made me wet. ⁓

Grizz (25:07)
You what from cracking homies, my bear.

Ice Bear (25:12)
This is how did I fuck this up so badly? Wow. Okay. Somehow like I felt like I only.

Okay. This is of anything that we need to make short of it is this shit.

Grizz (25:31)
You

Good.

Ice Bear (25:48)
Why are you being attacked by a plant?

⁓ man.

Grizz (25:53)
What the fuck is going

on?

Holy shit.

Ice Bear (26:03)
That was wild.

Grizz (26:04)
I didn't even touch that motherfucker.

Ice Bear (26:06)
I also really like the look of just pure disgust and disappointment when it hits you.

Grizz (26:18)
whether that was an omen from the fallen homie or not.

Ugh.

what we can say.

Ice Bear (26:38)
Bamboo for the buckaroo.

Grizz (26:41)
Oof.

Bamboo for the buckaroo is great.

That was good.

Ice Bear (26:52)
That's why they pay me the mid bucks.

Grizz (26:55)
The

Ice Bear (26:59)
All right, so

Now, if you had to describe me, your old pal, the ice bear, in four words, what would they be?

Grizz (27:26)
Suns out, buns out.

Ice Bear (27:29)
I like that. I appreciate that. Now, if I were to have the same task of describing myself in four words, it would be a little pumpkin slut. And that's why my second one is Bob Cajun Brewery's Pumpkin Spice IPA. This is a pumpkin spice West Coast IPA. 6.5%.

Grizz (27:40)
You

Ice Bear (28:03)
I hope this is one of those things that you know, like people get doxed like years later. I hope I have like a really good job. I'm like climbing the ladder like like the CFO is like knocking on my door like I think we're going to bring you on the board. And then and then I get an email in the morning. It's like we saw episode 25 of to be to be and we can't have a little pumpkin.

Grizz (28:11)
Like super high thing, yeah.

Ice Bear (28:31)
you

Grizz (28:37)
shit, god damn.

You know, when I think of little pumpkin slugs, there's only one thing that pops in my head. And it's, yay, ladybugs.

Ice Bear (28:46)
Pfft.

Yep, I see the transition, absolutely.

Grizz (29:00)
So from Urban Family Brewing Company, this is, yay, ladybugs.

Ice Bear (29:05)
That's a great cam.

Grizz (29:07)
Yay, ladybugs.

Ice Bear (29:10)
Holy shit. That's a great can. I love this.

Grizz (29:15)
It's the double dry hopped hazy EPO with Simcoe Citra, Idaho 7, and Cashmere. It's a 6.7. It's another small boy. But it sounds amazing. also, yay, ladybugs.

Ice Bear (29:23)
Sounds great.

I love the name. I love the can. Did your house ever get infested with ladybugs around this time of year? Like when the summer starts getting a little

Grizz (29:39)
You mean those, what are they like the Asian, she's shield beetles. Like back in the, like back in the day.

Ice Bear (29:42)
Not that Asian Beetle's like actual ladybugs. mean...

Like even, like... We still have it happen every year. Like...

Grizz (29:50)
I haven't seen, don't, I

haven't really seen a fucking ladybug to be honest. see more of those fucking Asian, whatever Beatles. Yeah. ⁓ then yeah, but I did see, I used to see them a lot. And I think probably it's the fact that I moved more North in Dallas instead of San Antonio. could maybe, maybe that'd be a thing, but I used to see, I used to see him growing up. used see him all the time.

Ice Bear (29:55)
⁓ the Beatles, okay. We get both. Every year.

Mm.

Grizz (30:16)
I used to love those things.

Where they, yeah, because I remember there was a tree that I used to climb all the time as a kid.

when so the the shitty like section eight housing place I told you about it was like it's like an open courtyard but it's just there's just one like dead ish tree right and it just it was just the one tree shout out shout out shout out to that tree you know uh I was gonna say shout out to the where if wasn't I'm like you probably probably shouldn't say that but shout out to the tree uh shout out to the tree um

Ice Bear (30:43)
Yeah. ⁓

Yeah.

Grizz (30:59)
But that thing on all the springs going into fall was covered in ladybugs all the time and that shit was fucking awesome. Cause it catches as much as we can.

We used to also catch slugs.

Ice Bear (31:11)
The only

thing I ever really enjoyed catching as a kid, bug-wise, was lightning bugs.

Grizz (31:20)
I never was able to. They weren't really there in San Antonio too much. Um, when I went to Dallas, they were everywhere. And so like, remember walking around the lake, uh, at white rock lake in Dallas at night and you see them everywhere and you're like, Oh, this is fucking awesome. This is what I see in the cartoon. And this is what I see in the, you know, it was awesome. But for me, I caught a fuck ton of bugs. Do you remember there was this candy, it was like a hard sour candy and they were bugs. They're a bug shaped thing.

And they came in canisters that had holes in the top and so it was for those for catching bugs. Like you eat the candy then you have a thing they put a bug in it or whatever. They were fucking awesome. They're fucking they were they were great. They're so cool. So we said get toes and catch bugs in that. or were you were back in the day? Did you get like one pound strawberries and like a little green, ⁓

Ice Bear (32:01)
No, but I want one now. That sounds great.

Grizz (32:17)
Like a little green plastic container that was like kind of like a net, like a cage almost. So one pound strawberries container. Yeah. Yeah. And then that one pound strawberry, one pound strawberries. That's God tier.

Ice Bear (32:22)
No, that sounds amazing. I want a one pound strawberry.

Oh, oh, yeah, I'm sure. But I'm not the container you're describing, but I'm sure we can head.

Grizz (32:40)
Yeah, so the container I'm describing though, we would use that to catch bugs. Like we would get bugs and we'd put a minute, right? It's like that. But we would catch lady bugs. We kind of fucked on a slugs because like, again, being in an apartment things, all the drainage from like the rain gutters would go onto these stone slabs, right? To disperse, right? So the water wouldn't like pull. And you lift those motherfuckers up and you can find a lot of worms and slugs and shit. So it's cool.

Ice Bear (32:43)
I'm on board now. OK. Yeah.

I was gonna

say, did you get worms for fishing? Yeah.

Grizz (33:11)
Yeah. And then

also just, just to have them regular. Cool. Yeah. ⁓ I used to kiss. I used to catch slugs, worms, ⁓ beetles, ladybugs, frogs because you catch frogs frogs for frogs were a delicacy in the sense. Like when you saw a frog and just like, you know what I mean? Like the, the, the only thing probably better than a frog was catching one of those fast ass lizards cause that was hard.

Ice Bear (33:15)
just to have worms.

How about frogs?

frogs are cool.

Frog.

⁓ yeah. Yeah.

Grizz (33:39)
So whoever caught a lizard was like, ⁓ shit, you know? ⁓

And then when I moved out to like more of the boonies, we caught a garden snake one time too. That was cool. But we lifted up a rock in the woods and we found one and we fucking caught it. And we put it in a tea jug and then we let it go. And then we went to go watch a horror movie. And then we came back and it was kind of And so we let it back into the wild so it didn't die.

But ⁓

Ice Bear (34:09)
That's very,

very considerate of you young men.

Grizz (34:12)
Yeah, we were sad. ⁓ And also my dad made us. ⁓ But when I got to like more of the boonies like the sticks and stuff. When I was like 10, 11, 12, we used to go into the ditches and there was a fuck ton of those little yellow scorpions. And we're like

Ice Bear (34:16)
you

the truth comes out.

Grizz (34:38)
those little scorpions like ain't no another non-currents have come to find out there's like a fuck ton of species of those types and some of them are poisonous and we didn't know but like we used to catch them all the fucking time like we used to dig with sticks into the sides and find them and fucking catch them

Ice Bear (34:47)
⁓ shit.

Grizz (34:57)
and did it for, yeah, that sure was fun.

Ice Bear (35:01)
Do you think you have powers from that? Maybe you got stung by one of them and you're like, that's what gave you your music talent.

Grizz (35:09)
I think if I ever did get talent from that, I like as a youth say negative auraed it when I got my own pet Emperor Scorpion and then named it Scorpion after my favorite Mortal Kombat character. Not realizing I just named it Scorpion Scorpion.

So... ⁓

I think I lost all the powers then. All those Corpia powers went away.

Ice Bear (35:41)
Did you watch the negative aura compilation thing I sent you yet?

Grizz (35:47)
on TikTok? Yeah. Yeah.

Ice Bear (35:47)
Yeah, with the guy that lost his pants. I have never

felt so bad for it because like I could tell he was just like nervous and wanted to get out of the way. Just that little sidestep and the pants come out like how how why I just all right. Give give me your most negative or a moment of your youth.

Grizz (36:02)
How the fuck?

It's so fucking funny.

Fuck. That's good. I do think the one where we mentioned before in Bears and, what was it? The Bear years and Bear Halloween. Where I got pantsed. It was the one time, I already made the switch. Be me, middle school, six year old. Made the switch to boxers. Got pantsed and tighty whities. ⁓ fuck.

Ice Bear (36:28)
Mm-hmm.

Oh, yeah. All right. Give me me give me give me another one, though. Yeah. Yeah, we won't do those.

Grizz (36:45)
I got, I got one eighth grade field day, right? Where does field day thing and the way that was here, it was basically like open school and like you just go to fuck it. And like it was dopest file. It was cool. Cause he would go to like just sections to do the activities. And if you don't want to, you can go out to the courtyards and it was fucking awesome. Super cool. So all of us edgy kids, we've gone to the courtyards.

Ice Bear (37:06)
Mm-hmm. Nice.

Grizz (37:14)
So then all of us were like, all right, let's have fucking relay races with our girlfriends kind of thing. Right. But like piggyback races. Sorry. So girl get on your back and you fucking run that. Right. So I am at the time, ⁓ probably, ⁓ some twat 12 because of eighth grade.

Ice Bear (37:21)
Okay. Okay.

Mm-hmm.

Grizz (37:42)
Yeah, 12. Yeah, I'm 12 turning 13 to 12. Yeah. Yeah, I'm 12 turning 13. So I'm between there. I'm a strap. I'm like 5'9". 5'8", 5'9". And in a whopping like 130, 140. My girlfriend at the time was a... whose name rhymed with my name, which is funny, but...

Ice Bear (38:12)
Judy. There we go.

Grizz (38:13)
Yes.

So, ⁓ she was like,

I think she was like 4'11 because she used to wear like those tall ass boots right? Anyways there was like three gothic girls in school and she was one of them kind of thing right? like so anyways we're there

Ice Bear (38:42)
this tracks.

Grizz (38:46)
Or take it up right now. I'm a fucking win. I'm a win this fucking race. I ain't gonna be emasculated. Right. So I'm like, hold on. So she's holding on. So I'm like, Let's go. So I fucking take off zooming the G force the on the unfortunate G force her her little hands couldn't couldn't withstand the force of the speed that old Grizz was going. She lost grip.

Ice Bear (39:06)
What are you saying right now?

Grizz (39:16)
And I'm there holding her legs. I'm holding her legs. She loses grip and falls back. And I'm still running. I haven't realized that she did it. She lost grip. So I drug her basically while I was holding her legs. And I ran a little bit while she was like, you know, and then I was like, Oh my God, I stopped and I see and I let her down.

And so I stop and I see his head out or down and that's how I dragged my school girlfriend in front of everybody.

Ice Bear (39:56)
I can't believe you fucking Emmett tilled your middle school girlfriend. That is insane. That is so insane. mine by comparison is going to be tame now. But that was that was definitely negative aura. Did you was she mad at you?

Grizz (40:11)
So that was negative aura. ⁓

Yeah, we broke up over the summer.

Ice Bear (40:21)
Okay. So mine, let me paint you a picture. Be me. Seventh grade. My, my, my best friend had just moved out of town. So it was a rough year because I didn't really have my normal emotional support human, if you will. It was ⁓ the start of when you had classes where you had like seven minutes between classes, but you went from room to room. Like seventh grade was the first year for that, where I grew up.

Grizz (40:29)
Boom.

nice.

Okay so it was yours like middle school like 7th and 8th grade and then okay yeah because mine is kindergarten to 5th, 6th through 8th, 9th through 12th.

Ice Bear (40:59)
So

no, middle school was sixth through eighth, but sixth grade, you were like in one class. Like sixth graders had like a little safe space to get used to the school.

Grizz (41:05)
Oh, okay. Gotcha. You know, it's

yeah, for ours was we had eight periods. Did you have four periods like four blocks or eight periods? Yeah, so I had eight to Yeah.

Ice Bear (41:14)
Eight, eight.

Yeah. So you had that small window that you had to get to class. And this was the period where I had to walk all the way across school. So I already had like a bit of anxiety because I never wanted to be late. I was very scared of that. It was a bit of a goody two shoes, if you will. And sidebar, to paint a further picture, this was where the old ice bear was at his chunkiest because I weighed what I do now.

And I was 5'4". So I was very rotund. I was a cute cherubic little shit. ⁓ But this was unfortunately accentuated by my desire to wear clothing like the Old Navy Tech Vest and glasses with not flattering and a bowl cut. So needless to say, I was a dweeby looking kid. Now on my way to this class, I did often look forward to it because I would

the girl I had a crush on. And as I was passing, so like, the halls were crowded, like it was busy. So like, there's kids behind you, there's kids in front of you, you're like, elbow to elbow, it's like being in a busy subway. And I'm almost class, I see the girl I wave, I'm I waved, and then I didn't realize my shoe had been untied. And I took a step, like we just crossed paths, and I tripped, and I dropped my books, my stuff went everywhere.

my shoes fucking flew off like in opposite directions and the whole is crowded. like, know, like this obviously kids are laughing and pointing and I'm like, my God. I went to try and collect my shoes and I didn't put them back on. just held them in my hands and I walk of shame to class.

Grizz (43:01)
That's the way to go. If you stand in the middle of the hallway trying to put your shoes on, it would have been even worse.

Ice Bear (43:03)
so I can.

Yeah, no,

I guarantee you had I tried it, I would have like missed the shoe, like in nervousness and like not been able to put them on.

Grizz (43:16)
Sad sad thing That is rough that is really Yeah, I mean you don't lose you know like it's bad, but you know you didn't drag yourself. It's In front of all the gear for yours and her friends

Ice Bear (43:18)
dark fucking times. Negative 1000.

⁓ hey, you had a girlfriend, so...

Grizz (43:40)
The funniest thing with this one though when ⁓ Her friend had told me that she didn't Was interested I was like you fucking liar. I didn't believe it. It's like you're fucking so you're fucking lying to me right now This is a fucking prank

Ice Bear (43:55)
I remember this.

⁓ yesteryear.

Grizz (44:10)
to be a Ute.

Ice Bear (44:11)
to be a Ute.

I wonder if the actor that plays that judge is still alive.

Grizz (44:17)
one day you're

I hope so.

Ice Bear (44:22)
Me too. Probably not though, he's old in that movie and that's like 91.

Grizz (44:25)
⁓ He was already

old. That's such a good movie. I'm still salty that the tiger didn't like that movie.

Ice Bear (44:33)
I'm... Does she not like Marisa Tomei?

Grizz (44:38)
Nobody dislikes Marissa Dome.

Ice Bear (44:42)
That was my favorite part about it because Sierra immediately had a crush on her. was like, nice. That's my wife.

Grizz (44:47)
See.

Fantastic.

Ice Bear (44:54)
The every

everyone's like wardrobe in that movie is fucking fire It's all so good everything everything about it's good

Grizz (44:58)
Exactly, yeah.

It's

It's the perfect movie somebody which I have come across people to tell me their favorite movie is my cousin Vinny I'm like fucking fair Fuck yeah

Ice Bear (45:10)
Mm hmm. Yeah, valid.

Absolutely valid. Hold on. Hold on. Guest appearance. Hold on. Guest appearance. Guest appearance. I need you to quickly in one word, assess Marissa Tomei and my cousin Vinnie.

She's very hot. Thank you. was many words and I love you. Yes, she has a Cerberus suit. be in your shirt. We were complimenting your shirt. Yeah, it's a very cool shirt. And so what happens when I'm doing laundry, I'll pull it out and I'll be like, ⁓ fuck, did I get this? Like, I think it's mine because it's something I want to wear and like small.

Grizz (45:37)
Was that a Cerberus Shiba Inu shirt?

That is one of the coolest things I've seen.

you

Ice Bear (46:00)
I folded and put it in her pile. But I really do love that shirt. It's very cool art.

Grizz (46:05)
I had such

a good shirt.

Ice Bear (46:08)
⁓ we've been talking about a lot lately, especially cause we tend to get the, ASMR Shiba Inu massage things on Tik Tok where they're like doing the little paw pads and the ting and the, the eye. Bro, you hit that noise exactly. Do that again. Do it again.

Grizz (46:16)
⁓ yeah and the pads and the end of yeah

Ha

Ice Bear (46:30)
That is a bang on impression. What the fuck? That is exactly what it sounds like. You can just do that into a mic for stop. Let's stop recording episodes. You just do that for 30 minutes. I'll put on a loop. That's amazing. God damn. But yeah, so we watch those and like we're like we're we're now open to the concept of a small dog because of Shiba Inus. They're so fucking cute, stupid looking.

Grizz (46:32)
You

They're

cute. They're cute. I like them. I know because you know, old grids have been debating like dogs. And it's hard because like I want a shepherd but there's a lot of like shepherd restrictions and I'm like

Ice Bear (47:13)
Doi chan!

Grizz (47:15)
Honestly though for for small dogs, like I was telling tiger, I'm getting a lot of fucking propaganda from the fucking like fucking docs and propaganda lately. Cause like I'm getting a lot of them and I'm like, these are kind of cool. Like, and so I was trying to tell her like, we can get one to name him Wilfred bro. Like, isn't it cool? Like, you know, and

Ice Bear (47:17)
Little weenie doggie.

You

You

Grizz (47:47)
because like it's one of those where Tiger's like, maybe you're trying to depict small like cause she's like, we'll get a Tobin gus and I'm like, I don't like flat faced dog. You're ugly. I like, I hated Toby when I first found him, but he grew on me. I like, I liked, I liked the dude now he's, he's, he's, he's a solid fellow. He grew on me. He's like, he's like, he's like fungus. He grows on you. You know what mean? Like it just becomes a part of you intrinsically. like,

Ice Bear (47:59)
Yeah, I'm with you.

Ha

Grizz (48:17)
He grew on me. I like him. He's a character. He's But I if I want one.

And then so like something in small dogs. I'm like, okay, if I can't have a shepherd, what would I want? I was thinking like, can get an Aussie, but then I was like, apparently they have like a two from like year two to like year four. They're fucking destructive fucking little Raptors. And I work a lot. So I'm like,

Ice Bear (48:28)
Mmm.

They

that's not one they need way too much exercise.

Grizz (48:46)
Yeah, and until

like, all the thing I looked at was like, they need even more exercise than like a fucking shepherd, other like bigger shepherd. So I'm like, definitely not definitely not able to do that. ⁓ The fuck is that?

Ice Bear (48:52)
Yes, they do. They do. Yeah.

dude get a click lie

You've never seen a Klee Klee are they they look similar to a Husky, but they're probably 25 pounds.

Grizz (49:12)
⁓ I think I have seen one. think I actually walk.

Ice Bear (49:14)
Their snouts are a

little bit shorter.

Grizz (49:19)
Yes, they look like husky mutts, but like more darker colors. So like, like white and black, right? Or like a dark, right? Yeah, okay. Yeah, I, there is one that typically when I'm walking to work around the time I walk to work, typically there's a person walking one of those and a person walking in Ozzy that I see all the time. And they're funny because they look like they look like ⁓ Brandon Frazier.

Ice Bear (49:24)
Generally black and white, yeah.

But

Grizz (49:53)
You know what mean? the way they're sitting like smile face. They remind me of Brandon Fraser.

Ice Bear (49:57)
Yep, they do.

They really do. ⁓

You know what you should do with as much as you work? That you probably can't do, but that's appropriate. That just wants to be in a chair all day. Fucking pit bull man. They like just sleeping the whole day.

Grizz (50:17)
That's, ⁓ I would want one again, this is restrictions. I was thinking of like looking at shelters to see if there's any of like,

Ice Bear (50:25)
See if you can get like a pocket pity, like something that's mixed with like, know, like a dachshund.

Grizz (50:28)
That's a bit.

Yeah. There's a fucking wiener bull. like, yeah, I'm thinking.

Ice Bear (50:38)
⁓ But then

you in private could call it the Wiener Bowl. Hello Wiener Bowl.

Grizz (50:47)
So like, it's, it's one more thing in that I think Dachshund is pretty high up there. I do like Shiba but Shibas are also high energy. I think they're perfect for you because like you already have Huskies and Huskies are wild. So like putting a Shiba in there's not any issue. ⁓ I

Ice Bear (51:08)
I'm gonna look up low energy dog breeds because now I've had enough beer that I can't think anymore.

Grizz (51:08)
Corgis are fine.

Yeah, corgis are fine, but the Tigers kind of like, like two or three of her friends have corgis and they're not well-trained corgis. So like, she's like, I don't want a corgi. So I'm like, fine.

Ice Bear (51:27)
Okay, these are actually really cute. Number one lowest energy dog French Bulldog. I know we just said no flat faces, but those are cute dogs.

Grizz (51:35)
Hold on.

Also the tiger hates the fur. So like I can't have mass shedding either. I'm like, so no Kirk, go to corgi.

Ice Bear (51:41)
⁓ yeah.

What about slobber?

Grizz (51:50)
A Mastiff?

Ice Bear (51:51)
St. Bernard.

Grizz (51:53)
same Bernard should go up with a giant, are they?

Ice Bear (51:56)
Yeah, all right, we need small. All right, small and lazy. Oh, English Bulldog, teach it to skate?

Grizz (52:02)
English Bulldogs.

I wouldn't be opposed to an English Bulldog. I don't like Frenchies. Because a tiger called me a Frenchie and it hurt my feelings.

Ice Bear (52:15)
What about ⁓ a bichon frisé?

Grizz (52:18)
I don't- ooh nah. For sure not one of those. I don't like this. To be honest, the tiger would've want one but like-

I miss Dahlia ⁓

Ice Bear (52:32)
Yeah,

she's very cute. She's a good little girl. She's a quality puppet.

Grizz (52:42)
Like she was a really good size too.

Cause like with dogs, could walk them before I go to work.

Maybe like have something somebody midday and then walk them and I get as soon as I get home

Ice Bear (53:00)
Okay, dude, this is not, this is not me. I promise. All I did was I was searching best low energy small dog. Number one on the list.

Can you see that?

Grizz (53:15)
That's a beautiful boy. A clay clay. A brown clay clay looks, that dude's.

Ice Bear (53:17)
Click like.

telling you,

⁓ Keski Terrier with the big mustaches.

Grizz (53:37)
I'm fine with the mud. I'm super cool with the mud. Look.

Ice Bear (53:43)
Mats are the best.

Grizz (53:47)
Yeah, speak to you. Muts are cool. Like look, my dog, Mac Daddy out for the dollar. He was the greatest mud ever. He was awesome. He was an ankle biter, but he was awesome. And I got him because my dad was kind of drunk and some pretty girl asked if he wanted a dog. And he's like, well, I don't want to leave them. So, okay, I'll take a dog. And he drove the dog across town to our house and he's like, you want this puppy? I was like, what the fuck? He's like, well, if you don't want him, I'm to let him out here.

You just took away from his litter. can't let you let him out. Look at that guy. I'll do the long haired ones are cute as shit.

Ice Bear (54:26)
Yeah.

I forgot Russian toys existed. They're such weird looking. They look like chihuahuas.

Grizz (54:37)
Russian toys? What the fuck is Russian toy?

Ice Bear (54:43)
They look like chihuahuas.

Grizz (54:46)
wow. I probably just assumed those were chihuahuas.

I do like Chihuahuas. I don't like the fucking apple-headed ones, but the deer ones. I fucking like those.

Ice Bear (55:00)
Like, ⁓ when I still had a talk, you get an Atari, get a York, get a York G, get a little wiggle worm.

Grizz (55:09)
Yorkies are cool. I like your tiger doesn't like your keys, but I like your keys

Ice Bear (55:13)
No, not a Yorkie, a York-chee. Half Yorkie, half Chihuahua. That's what Atari was. Yeah. Did you ever see Atari? I don't know. I don't know.

Grizz (55:16)
Ayorchi. Ayorchi. I've never. Have I? I don't think I've seen. Yeah, I

know of Atari because I know that.

Ice Bear (55:28)
I'll hit up Ice Bear, the mama. And I'll ask her for a picture of him.

Grizz (55:38)
A York Chi.

I can't imagine a Yorkie Chihuahua mix.

Ice Bear (55:47)
He's very cute. ⁓ The only reason he left is because he and Atlas are going to kill each other. Well, Atlas is going to kill him.

Grizz (55:49)
I imagine that.

because...

Ice Bear (56:00)
Because the Tari's a little shit and was trying to fight him and he's like 12 pounds and that was his atlas

Grizz (56:10)
Yeah, Alice is unhinged a little bit on the best of days. That's kind of hard. He's kind of hard to like, you know.

else is a good boy but he also killed me so yeah

Ice Bear (56:22)
That was so funny when I came back that day because he was immediately like and did not leave was just like, I was like, All right, well, I know it wasn't you.

No, you didn't murder your uncle.

Grizz (56:43)
You

Alice is so funny because Alice is like.

His personality just shines through everything, even through small clips of video or on-cam. He's such a fucking character.

Ice Bear (57:04)
He does wild shit. The other day he was like in between us. He had knocked over like one of the couch cushions because he wanted to be not on the couch, but on the the cushion on the couch. and then he like, he'll pull blankets on himself. Like he'll tuck himself into things. And he's just sitting there for 30 minutes, maybe 40, like a long time. Like he was comfortable. And then we were talking about him.

And then like, he realized we were talking about him. just did like, he does the most substantial side eye of any dog I've ever had. He knows. It's like, fucking talk about me. And just like walks away slowly. like, you disgust me. Filth. I'll come back to you when I need sustenance.

Grizz (57:58)
Think about what you did.

Ice Bear (57:59)
pretty much and then Titus will come over and just be like a cuddle sponge and then Atlas will see that and he's like no no no no no you still think I'm the best and then like get in between but only after he realizes that Titus is getting attention. It's a little shit.

Well, we've gone almost an entire episode without discussing... Michael Parsons. Did you see any of the Thursday Night Game?

Grizz (58:34)
I did not. I and my friends were working very late.

Ice Bear (58:39)
that, ⁓ yeah, you worked all the doubles this week. ⁓ Let me tell you, the Packers defense looks good. like, Mike is still clearly like working into it. But he, the way the pressure that he puts on quarterbacks scares them so much that they make stupid mistakes.

Grizz (58:41)
Yeah.

Ice Bear (58:59)
And this was like, this was Jayden. Like the commander's quarterback is not, he's good. Like they were obviously in the NSC championship like that as a talented young man, but he looked rattled just cause it was constant pressure.

Grizz (59:04)
Yeah.

I gotta catch on scams, man like ⁓

Yeah, honestly, I'm pretty excited for the season. think like, you know, the boys did far better on their debut than I fucking expected them to. So like. That was a damn good provide. I was fucking genuinely shocked.

Ice Bear (59:32)
Like, against Philly? That was a good performance.

And

were it not for ye olde Lamby Lamb just fucking forgetting how to play football, they would have won that game.

Grizz (59:43)
who I like. Which sucks

because I like Lam too. He's great. He played horribly. ⁓

Ice Bear (59:50)
I like LAMP too, but he... that was a terrible game.

Cause

like, I don't know if you ever, if any of your coaches ever said it or like when I was growing up, my dad always said, if you can touch it, you can catch it. that was, that was the rule. you can touch it, you can catch it. And like lamb had three touch it, touching the palms. Like they were in there. He just fucking flubbed them.

Grizz (1:00:12)
Yep.

Yeah,

it was bad. But overall, the boys looked really good. I was more disappointed with the Ravens game than the Cowboys game.

But that was a good fucking game too.

Ice Bear (1:00:33)
That was one of, so I don't generally like to watch full games outside of the Bengals. I watch highlights. But when I saw Bill's Ravens, I was like, this is going to be a good game. And I'm so glad I stuck with it because that was one of the.

Grizz (1:00:49)
RDH, hold

on a second. What is that? RDH?

I see that. Yeah.

There was a license plate with my name on it.

Ice Bear (1:01:07)
nice.

Grizz (1:01:09)
yeah, no, but that game was a it was a phenomenal game. So like the fucking one one point like Both games were close. So like that was I was more disappointed with the ravens game than the cowboys game ⁓ Yeah

Ice Bear (1:01:15)
Mm-hmm.

That's fair. That was a pretty bad collapse because they

looked like they had there was a couple collapse. This is the Vikings game also like the Bears looked like they had that well in control. And then McCarthy was just like, I'm going to show you why they fucking just bailed on all the other quarterbacks for me. And he looked phenomenal in the fourth quarter.

Grizz (1:01:41)
Yeah.

Yeah, it's...

I think this is gonna be a good season. I Think how good it started. I'm very very excited for it

Ice Bear (1:01:50)
Me too.

Yeah. Yeah. And also I have started, I've gone into this season with a new mindset and that is that I think it's scripted and I'm watching it like a show now. Like I'm watching it like it's a season of like WWE and I'm enjoying it a lot more.

Grizz (1:02:17)
What's funny is like I haven't I haven't.

Yeah, it's funny as I haven't got there with football. But I am there with NBA.

Ice Bear (1:02:27)
it's rigged. It's so clearly rigged.

Grizz (1:02:30)
Yeah. I can't look at the last year, the last two years and be like, this is, these are just people that are trying their best and like, yeah, I, at this point I cannot.

Ice Bear (1:02:34)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah

Yeah, also just the trades that make no sense and not just Luca. Like there's more than him. Like there's trades that just make zero sense and it's clearly they're building a story. Which is, I wish they would just come out and say it, because I'd be more invested. Because it's just a masculine soap opera, that's all it is.

Grizz (1:02:48)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

It's, it's, know sort of that WWE is people still like it because of the reason like, you know, doesn't take away from it. So like, it's, ⁓ it's one of those where like going from the Mavericks losing in the fucking finals and it being like doing fucking phenomenal up until the very end. And it was like, what it was like not the same team at all.

and no and so going from there all the way till the next thing year later the Luka stuff and just all like just even not even not just Luka it was Luka and a couple of other like good players and it's like i just don't see how

Again, I just don't see how it's not basically a scripted soap opera.

Ice Bear (1:04:01)
Which again, I'm fine with it because I'm wrestling is the prime example. Like that is still, if you're into it, it's no less watchable now than it was in the, and I really wished growing up I had known it was scripted because I would have appreciated it more. Cause like there were certain, like there were certain people that because they were the heel at the time, I hated and now going back and like watching clips on YouTube, I'm like,

This dude was a phenomenal actor. Like Kurt Angle in his heel days is amazing. Like the stuff that he said is hilarious. You're a boy and I'm a man and this is a man's world. And I'm going to tell no, no, no, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Grizz (1:04:32)
Yeah.

You

Ice Bear (1:04:52)
That's Super funny.

Grizz (1:04:53)
That clip is so

fucking funny I just love like the compilations of like those are just like what the fuck things and then like when people from the crowd like it makes it when they make it into like their yelling makes into the speech is just fucking hilarious

Ice Bear (1:05:03)
Yeah.

Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. I distinctly remember as a kid thinking that mankind was going to kill people when he did the mandible claw. I was like, no, no, Shawn Michaels is gonna die. I so scared.

Grizz (1:05:37)
That's so funny.

Ice Bear (1:05:39)
Well, let me tell you.

Grizz (1:05:41)
I'm just saying the one thing I'll say with Ron Michaels is that I remember back in the day in the 90s, there was a game. It was the Spurs. It was when Henry Johnson and David Robinson, Auduboyz were on the roster. They were playing the Utah Jazz. you remember them. And I remember during halftime, there's a couple of Utah Jazz players who were bullying the Coyote.

And I couldn't stand for that as a kid in elementary school. I could not stand for that. That was my friend.

And then from the Raptors, Shawn Michaels ran down and fucking jumped and double kicked a fucking Utah Jazz player. And he saved them and it was a heartbreak hit and it was everywhere. I was shocked that he was there for one, but also that he saved the Coyote from these fucking terrible players. He was my hero.

Ice Bear (1:06:40)
Okay, A, A, I love this story. B, I love that every time you tell the story, you forget that you've told this story before. C, this is at least the third time on the show that you've told this story.

Grizz (1:06:51)
no.

That's how impactful it was. That's

how impactful it was.

Ice Bear (1:07:01)
I really like thinking about our fine and ever-growing audience in Thailand and they're like, he's doing it again! He's doing it again! It's the Shawn Michaels vid again! And now we know why they watch us. They just love reminiscing about Shawn Michaels and the Spurs.

Grizz (1:07:21)
Look, any man defending a coyote, it's a good man. 1000%.

Ice Bear (1:07:24)
That's an honorable add. ⁓

Heartbreak kid? More like heartwarming kid. ⁓

Grizz (1:07:31)
Yep. That's a heartwarming man right there. Ain't nothing kid about that.

Ain't nothing kid about that.

Ice Bear (1:07:41)
⁓ do, do, ⁓ I feel like we're now at the perfect point to just end this thing on five big booms.

Grizz (1:07:52)
This is actually perfect.

Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom.

Ice Bear (1:07:56)
Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom.