LIVE AT 2PM ET: This week, CERN fired up again with the goal of piercing the veil into other dimensions and summoning who knows what back into ours. Could this be why, the very next day, the Georgia Guidestones—a monument detailing a diabolical agend...
LIVE AT 2PM ET: This week, CERN fired up again with the goal of piercing the veil into other dimensions and summoning who knows what back into ours. Could this be why, the very next day, the Georgia Guidestones—a monument detailing a diabolical agenda to reduce Earth’s population to 500 million people—was reduced to rubble? Was it God’s wrath? Were they burying the evidence? Or was it just another bizarre ritual? What’s behind these two events, and what do they show us about the sinister beliefs of those who rule our world? Join me live today for a mind-blowing interview with my very good friend and incredible researcher, Rob Counts from Edge of Wonder. You won’t want to miss this show!
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse, coming to you live. So folks, it's been another crazy week. Every day, these so called elites are becoming more and more brazen in their evil and hubris as they not only slander and ridicule God, but seek to become gods themselves. So this week, CERN fired up again with the goal of piercing the veil into other dimensions and summoning who knows what back into our dimension.
Speaker 1:Could this be why the very next day, the Georgia Guidestones, a monument detailing a diabolical agenda to reduce Earth's population to 500,000,000 people was reduced to rubble? Was it God's wrath? Were they bearing the evidence, or was it just another bizarre ritual? Who's behind these two events, and what do they show us about the sinister beliefs of those who rule our world? Not for long, though.
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Speaker 1:So we have had some interesting things happening from the green skies out west, which we're gonna talk about, to crazy weather in Switzerland, to the destruction of the Georgia Guidestones, which they're saying has been an explosion, but there's a lot of things that make it look like maybe it was an act of God. And I couldn't think of a better guest to have on my show today to talk about this than Rob Count. So Rob is one of the founders of Edge of Wonder, which was one of the great, great YouTube channels that really taught me a lot that I've learned about the deep state and communism and even weird stuff like UFOs and the occult. And up until there's this one Hunter Biden laptop thing, maybe you've heard about it. It was the day that that story was gonna break that Rob and his partner Ben, they saw their account get wiped off of YouTube.
Speaker 1:And so here we are back on YouTube again. So just don't tell YouTube that Rob's on my show, because they'll probably kick me off of YouTube as well, because Rob's one of those guys they don't like. So without further ado, let me go and bring on Mr. Rob Counts. So Mr.
Speaker 1:Rob Counts, welcome to the Man in America show.
Speaker 2:Hey, everybody. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1:Oh, so it is it's it's good to have you, man. And, you know, while a lot of my topics I I cover more, you know, geopolitics or finance or, you know, those types of things that that's where I happen to find myself at these days. When these types of events happening, you know, with, like, the CERN, which is already kind of crazy and weird, we're gonna be diving into that. But then the Georgia Guidestones collapsing, like, this is the conversation I was excited to have with you. So what do you think about what's happening?
Speaker 2:Honestly, like, in all honesty, I really think the tides have turned finally. I think that it's been a really long time. It's looked hopeless for a really long time. And we can see now that the forces of good have been creeping in because evil can only stay evil and command for so long before there is pushback from the other force in this cosmos, which we all know is the actual hand of God, which we saw a video of actually a few minutes ago. It was showing you that hand of God that appeared a couple of days before CERN arrived out in Canada.
Speaker 2:That was Saskatchewan that that hand appeared, lightning coming out of it and everything. And I think either, with the Georgia Guidestones, we're gonna get into this, but either that is them hiding the evidence because they're about to do something crazy or that was none other than the tides having turned and finally things are changing for the better. And, you know, I'm holding on to that second one, think. The latter is more appealing to me.
Speaker 1:So let's pull up I've got an article about the Georgia Guidestones here. I've got we have a few things to show, but why don't you walk us through, like, what are the Georgia Guidestones? Like, you know, was this built by Native Americans as like a winter solstice thing? Or was it built by John D. Rockefeller?
Speaker 2:Well, you know, it's actually, they call it, what do they call it? The modern day or the American version of Stonehenge or something, right? Which is actually, to be quite honest, that's an insult to America and it's an insult to history because no one even knows what those ancient structures are. But here we have a modern structure that has basically trash written on it. We've got a structure that was put up very mysteriously in Georgia.
Speaker 2:It happens to be almost six sixty six miles from the UN. And the text on the guidestones appears a very, very similar, like, eerily similar to the the twenty thirty sustainable development goals by the UN.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Let's scroll down here. Why don't you so these are the, like, walking through what the text says. There's, like, almost, like, what, 10 commandments. Right?
Speaker 1:On
Speaker 2:each Yeah. It's, correct. So, you know, the the a lot of people say that this these are the things that need to be up if there's a post apocalyptic world, but but I disagree. I argue that there have been secret societies for a very long time, at least since the crusades that have come about that have really meddled in trying to create a world that is suitable for the top 3%, let's say. And in order to do that, they started looking at things like, how many people are using up all of the resources that we have here on planet earth, which was that first one of the Georgia Guidestones, which was maintain the population to 500,000,000 people, which I mean, think about how many people that would kill.
Speaker 2:I mean, we were to do that, so we're talking about like the first one blatantly referring to some form of eugenics, where these elites or whoever it is has control over the population, the amount of people on the planet, why? So that they can keep the resources to themselves. I mean, none of that really makes sense. That that that's actually a slap in the face to just humankind in general.
Speaker 1:So basically, real quick. So these so on these stones, they have these kinda 10 commandments, which you can see right here if I zoom in a bit, that these 10 commandments are on these stones, which detail things like, you know, maintain humanity under half a billion in perpetual balance with nature, which is strange. But then what's crazy is that these are on like what? They're in eight different languages?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Well, and it's not just it's not just languages. These are ancient languages. We're talking about Babylonian, you know, like ancient Babylonian, we're talking about ancient Greek, Sanskrit, like these are like the big languages that were here before the dawn of time. And then English, which is sort of like a guide to the others, which is kind of strange.
Speaker 2:And some of these things like look at number three, unite humanity with a living new language, a common language that everyone is using. They seem to really echo a lot of what the UN is trying to do in their 02/1930 goals. This idea of diversity on there, don't forget, these Georgia Guidestones went up in 1980. That was the year that I was born. I think you were a couple of years after that, Seth.
Speaker 2:But 1979, there was a proposal that went up to resurrect these or erect these guidestones. And it was by an anonymous man who, his name was RC Christian, okay? He maintained his anonymity. No one was allowed to know who this was. And he only talked to two people, someone helping him arrange the guidestones and then the mason who put those up, the professional- And then benefactor
Speaker 1:that was helping you know, finance it locally, then the guy whose family owned a well, because I guess what like that region of Georgia is I think one of the world's largest quarries for this particular kind of stone.
Speaker 2:The best granite in the world. Yeah. The best granite in the world. So the quarry was there. And, and yeah, and what's strange is that for someone who does a lot of research into the occult, you give me a name like RC Christian, and I'm like, come on.
Speaker 2:Because like basically the Rosicrucian order was developed by a man named Christian Rosencrutz. Okay. And so RC Rosencrutz, right? Christian, you just like, you're swapping the name. So this was someone in the Rosicrucian order, obviously.
Speaker 2:Like, we're not stupid. So You know?
Speaker 1:Give me a quick, just brief on who who were the Rosicrucians? Like, what is it like, like, Romanati order or what is this?
Speaker 2:Well, okay. So well, in in it's easy to it's okay. Let's back up to the the great the crusades that that took place. Okay? During the crusades, we had a bunch of righteous Christians going over and and fighting a war for what they thought was, you know, bringing Christianity to the to the world.
Speaker 2:Right? But they ended up in a place that they weren't prepared for. They ended up in the Middle East where there were very, very different stories about what happened in the Bible than they read in the Bible. You know, they had, they had people telling them stories back that actually now you've got it flipped and Lucifer is a good guy. And actually he's the God of the earth.
Speaker 2:And, you know, so they're like listening to all of this stuff. And it's not just that they're seeing things, they're seeing new like magic in something like, so what you could call magic, you know, maybe it was just new to them. They had never seen anything like that. People doing different things, different ways of healing. And it was kind of in a way opening them up to see new things that they had never seen before, but they kind of got duped in the act.
Speaker 2:Because if you think about it, what was Jesus flipping tables for? I mean, He was here and He was seeing all of these, and Moses too, you know, we see these people, you know, they have false idols that, you know, they can't even go like a couple of days without starting to, you know, it's just crazy.
Speaker 1:I remember as a kid watching the movie on Moses, when he goes up to and receives the 10 commandments, and he comes back down, there's like orgies and false idols. It's like, it's like it's almost like you leave, like, a, like, a three year old in a room for an hour with, like, a bunch of cake and candy. You come over, and there's there's, like, somebody who has poop on the wall. You know what I mean? Like, that's what he came back down to.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And, you know, this is human beings. This is actually who we are. It's important to recognize where we've been and those stories in history were left to us specifically to avoid those things. And we're not learning.
Speaker 2:Clearly, we're not learning. So, you know, with the, so what happened was when these Knights Templar went over there and they got opened up to all of this stuff, they came back to their countries of origins and wanted to talk about this stuff, but knew that they would be hung or killed for talking about it because, you know, anything that appeared even remotely satanic would have gotten mixed at that time. That's how the world was. So what did they do? Well, they created these secret societies and they were pretty much two main secret societies at the time.
Speaker 2:One was the Knights Templar kind of bleeded into Freemasonry. And I could describe that, but it's a long story. But you've got Freemasonry, excuse me, and you've got the Rasocrucians. And the Rasocrucians were sort of like, depends on who you ask, but the Rosicrucians were sort of a Christian wing of the Freemasons that blended eventually hermeticism into the whole thing. And I can tell you from my research, not a lot of people will agree with me on this, but when you really look into it, this hermetic stuff is behind some of the most evil stuff in the entire world.
Speaker 2:We're looking at the foundations for things like communism, for a lot of the different things that have just killed lots of people all over the world. And then now I don't even have to tell you that, but look into the origins of things like communism, of the Illuminati, of like all of these different secret societies. And there's always this like very strong connection to Hermeticism in all of them.
Speaker 1:And a lot that Hermeticism really ties into things like Stonehenge, the solstice, there's a lot of pagan rituals. Because even these guidestones were so accurate. Like, you could walk up and how they they'd have holes in them so that the sun would be shining through, and it'd show you exactly what day Date it was. That it was. Right?
Speaker 1:Actually, let let me pull up something really quick. I found this old article, and it's interesting because if if now if you look at the guide stones, you go research them, all the more recent media coverage of them, they talk about it as if it's like Mount Rushmore. Like, all this very significant, you know, like, American Stonehenge. It's like, that wasn't it at all. So let me read a little bit from this article.
Speaker 1:So this was back from this is in Wired back in 02/2009, which is interesting because you can tell that it was before the media really kind of took on this crazy agenda. So what it says, I'll read through a few parts I highlighted, is that the Georgia Guidestones may be the most enigmatic monument in The US. Huge slabs of granite inscribed with directions for rebuilding civilization after the apocalypse. So that was really weird is that, like, one of the main purposes of these guidestones were to serve as guidestones, like, literally stones that would guide humanity after an apocalypse. So if we if we kinda come down here a little further, it says, so what's most widely agreed upon based on the evidence available is that the guide stones are meant to instruct the dazed survivors of some impending apocalypse as they attempt to reconstitute civilization, which that's kinda weird.
Speaker 1:Yes. But what it continues is that so you know, and and talking about how this would work. So Christian, right, R. C. Christian, who's a guy that was supposedly behind this, he had the plans.
Speaker 1:He's the one that had the finance backing it. So this guy explained that the structure he had in mind would serve as a compass, a calendar, and a clock, but that it would also need to be engraved with a set of guides written in eight of the world's major languages, and it had to be capable of withstanding the most catastrophic events so that the shattered remnants of humanity would be able to use those guides to reestablish a better civilization than the one that was about to destroy itself. Like, talk about
Speaker 2:So then how did it blow up?
Speaker 1:Yeah. Exactly. It's like, it's meant to survive an apocalypse, yet some teenager with a pipe bomb just took it out. Right?
Speaker 2:Sorry. An m 80 didn't do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So coming down, there's some other weird stuff here I wanna I wanna bring up. Let's see. So in talking about this, so it was built in this small little town in Georgia, and what they say here is, as word of what was being inscribed spread, right, because the first thing is basically limit the population to half a billion, that's a really weird thing to be memorializing this giant kind of tomb like structure.
Speaker 2:Yeah. As number one, by the way.
Speaker 1:As the first rule. Yes. It said that the the Martin recall so Martin was the banker you mentioned, that even people he considered friends asked him why he was doing the devil's work. So a local minister, James Travistead, predicted that occult groups would flock to the guidestones warning that someday a sacrifice will take place here. Those initially inclined or those inclined to agree were hardly discouraged by Charlie Clamp, the sandblaster charged with carving each of the 4,000 plus characters on the stone.
Speaker 1:So listen to this. This is the stone carver. So during the hundreds of hours he spent etching the guides that he said he'd been constantly distracted by strange music and disjointed voices. So there's some really weird stuff here. But let me go ahead and bring up, Rob, a video.
Speaker 1:Let me bring this up for you. This is the
Speaker 2:actual is like a Man in America watch party of, like, occult object getting blown up.
Speaker 1:Exactly. So, like, so get out your popcorn. Everyone talks to, here here's your popcorn moment, folks. Right? Exactly.
Speaker 1:So here are the Georgia Guidestones, and boom. Right? So this is the footage that was released by the I think it was, like, the Georgia Police Department. And then supposedly, there's this this car fleeing. Now I I just so happened to have a silver sedan with a sunroof, and I was in Georgia around that time, but it wasn't me.
Speaker 1:Just just trust me. But here's so here's what I wanna bring up just so that and I wanna get your thoughts on this. So this right here, this is an aerial drone view of the destruction. So they're they're pitching the story. They're trying to tell us that this was a bomb that went off.
Speaker 1:Alright. So you can see here the structure. So it was five main pillars that were supporting this what they call a capstone, which is a 25,000 pound stone that sat on top. Now, one of those pillars was blown up, as you can see. Right?
Speaker 1:And you look at a different angle, you can see let me fast forward here really quick. So you can see that one of the pillars I'll pause it right here. So one of the pillars was blown up right there. Now here's the question I have is that if there was a bomb that was put that was placed that could blow up one of these five pillars, and literally, like, if you look at the videos of it, there's debris hundreds of feet away. So how would you how would you blow up one pillar, yet the other four pillars are perfectly intact, still standing?
Speaker 1:And so there's a lot of people that are actually saying that this was a lightning strike. This was some sort of act of God that did this. And I tend to want to agree with that because this doesn't make sense. And what do you think about that?
Speaker 2:Yeah. It's, you know, I'm not an expert in in blowing things up. I didn't grow up in Ohio. I wouldn't be able to answer that like you. But like, the thing that's important here is that granite is very, very sturdy.
Speaker 2:Like that's the stuff that is going to last an eternity. Like if you want something that'll last thousands and thousands of years, granite really will play that role. So it being that dense and sturdy and heavy, you'd have to really know what you were doing in order to blow that one tablet up. Talking about bombing here, right? I imagine you'd have to do it just right.
Speaker 2:And it doesn't even look like the other stones have much damage. So I don't know. It's a it's a good question. It's something that should be looked into. It's even weirder that instead of looking into that more, they just took the other guide stones down, which I'm happy about.
Speaker 2:You know, they took them all down now because it was a safety concern. I mean, obviously, bomb goes off, one of them gets affected. You don't know if that's gonna fall on someone. Right? So it makes sense why they did take them down.
Speaker 2:But, you know, if you replay that video, it does look like the explosion is coming from the bottom and and shooting out. So it's hard to say. I don't I don't would think I think that that was a bomb. I think that was a calculated thing, but I don't know by who and for what reason.
Speaker 1:Yeah. It's there's something behind it. But, you know, one thing that the the occult or, you know, whatever you wanna refer to, the cabal, the evil people in this world, they're all about symbolism. And it's it's these types of, you know, statues and monuments that that there's so much inner meaning. And and and pretty soon, we'll go on to the discussion about CERN, and we can show some of their opening ceremonies, and you can see how dense they are with their meaning.
Speaker 1:And so, like, the fact that they built this structure to blast the apocalypse and to be there, like like, it's almost like this was what symbolically represented the destruction in the apocalypse that they probably planned. Right? But then it represented them taking control after the apocalypse through these guidestones. So it's just like, if you look into what this means, like, to me, what this shows is that there's this destruction happening, but they're no longer in control of it. And the fact that they're, like, main kind of monument that was built to memorialize that process was just destroyed.
Speaker 1:I feel like that it's like what you said that there the tides are turning on this. You're muted.
Speaker 2:Sorry about that. I have to agree with you. It's actually kind of exciting just because, you know, I wanna say like that doesn't mean that the next several months to a couple of years is going to be easy. I still think that the effect that this parasite on the planet has had is really going to have an effect for some time. It's gonna take time for humanity to recoup.
Speaker 2:But the fact that these things are changing even a little bit indicates that, hey, maybe the worst, you know, from that end is over, and we're going to actually start seeing, you know, some righteous forces coming in.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it's about I think it's about time. I think that
Speaker 2:is about time. Totally.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Well, it also makes me just reflect on this this time period in history. And, like, a couple of years ago, I would guess that most people did not even know what the Georgia Guidestones stood for, or even that they know that they exist. But, you know, like, I I saw this information. Like, I'm not I went on to Facebook, and I'm still on there because I, you know, obviously promote my man in America, and it's it's a really useful way for me to tap into what a lot of people that I grew up with are thinking about.
Speaker 1:And I saw multiple people I went to high school with sharing articles about how the Georgia Guidestones were destroyed. And so the fact that this stuff has become so mainstream and that people are celebrating it, I think it does, that there's a shift that's been happening.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah, think so. And I do think it's interesting that it's one of those anomalies in America that people, like, have heard stories about. Like, they're aware of it even if it's more in the background. So when something like that happens, everyone's kind of getting behind it, you know.
Speaker 1:So what's crazy is that the timing of all this because we just had seen that they just started back up CERN, which I've got a short video here. It's just a maybe a minute and a half or so that just gives like a little bit of an explanation as to what CERN is because it's kind of a crazy thing you have to see to believe. But let me go and pull this up and play this because this is gonna be helpful. This is CERN, the nuclear research laboratory on the border of France and Switzerland. It features the most powerful particle accelerator on Earth, the Large Hadron Collider, or LHC.
Speaker 1:What does it do? Well, it accelerates and collides particles at 99.99% the speed of light. And maybe it could produce the very first lab grown black hole. How big would that black hole be? What So they're saying in this is that it could produce this black hole, but I wanna bring up an important article here because I know that you and I were getting ready to dive down some sort of rabbit hole of could this be opening up portals to into other worlds or opening up a a, you know, portal to hell.
Speaker 1:But I I just wanna save ourselves some time because Snopes has already done the research for us. And so Snopes has told us that, no, CERN didn't open a portal to another dimension. So we're gonna go and end the show now because there's not much really to talk about anymore.
Speaker 2:Wait, Seth. Before you end the show, if Snopes said it didn't happen, that means it did 100%. So just reverse anything Snopes says, and you've got the reality, right? So maybe there is something to look into here. Thanks thanks for giving us a lead Snopes.
Speaker 2:Now that you said something, I know to look into it.
Speaker 1:It's funny because, you know, whenever I'm researching a topic, it happens all the time. Google really prioritizes these fact checkers in their algorithms. So I might look up something about the JAB or something about CERN or the Georgia Guidestones, and it's like you instantly see there's, like, 15 fact check articles, and it's like, oh, okay. So this is exactly what they don't want us to look at.
Speaker 2:Exactly, exactly. And that's how they are. I mean, know, CERN, that guy kind of summed it up, right? But it a little bit more sensational what he was saying. Because if you really start digging into what the scientists at CERN are saying and things like that, you get a very different picture based in physics and all of that stuff, quantum theory, string theory, electromagnetics, all of the relativity type of things that we all kind of grew up hearing about in our advanced science classes.
Speaker 2:But what's crazy is like, I have to ask you a question. It's sort of like, okay, there are on earth, probably the most dangerous substance arguably is a nuclear bomb, or like the most dangerous weapon is a nuclear bomb. In outer space, the most dangerous thing that you can possibly think of is what? A black hole.
Speaker 1:A black hole. I'll say the black hole or like a sun or I guess the sun collapsing becomes a black hole.
Speaker 2:Right. So why don't we just go ahead and take those particles that are extremely dangerous and blast them into one another at light speed to create microscopic black holes so we can study the results. That just sounds like an amazing idea, just tampering with the most uncontrollable substances in the universe. And this is what they're doing over there. They have, Seth, they have a thing in Switzerland called the anti matter factory, where they create something called anti matter, which is much more dangerous than a nuclear bomb.
Speaker 2:A small amount of this substance would equal, like a very small amount of this substance would equal something like 20 Hiroshima bombs. Now, they claim that they're not able to make a large amount of this antimatter, but they are transporting this most dangerous substance in the entire planet around in trucks.
Speaker 1:You know, this makes me think even more so that, like, here's more proof that God is looking over us. It's like, how have we not destroyed our entire world by now? Like, humans are like there's a reason that humans, you know, they say, like, okay. We're only using 10% of the brain. Well, there's a reason for that.
Speaker 1:Because if we could use all of our brain, we probably would blow up our whole world, you know, a hundred times over by now. So, again, the fact that, like, they're not causing mass chaos with this is, like, I think that we're really lucky. And to me, it's just another sign that, you know, God is looking over what's happening in our world.
Speaker 2:Well, I think like we're getting the benevolent treatment right now. The only thing that's happening right now is that as soon as CERN started back up, I mean, right away in Switzerland, there were terrible, terrible hailstorms, terrible flooding, right? I mean, these people are being given signs, you know, like, and I honestly think if you're not looking at omens, you really like, look, the world isn't what you've, it's not what scientists think that it's just this matter and particles and stuff. Like, these things happen. Everything is alive around us.
Speaker 2:For it to not react to something because it's alive would be madness. Like, you're alive. I'm alive. Do you not react? Does your body not react if you get cut?
Speaker 2:Of course, it does. Right?
Speaker 1:Well, let's talk about this. This is something you sent me. Is that these green skies that start appearing in South Dakota. Now they're saying it was right before this storm, but this is really insane. So look at this.
Speaker 1:This this is the same day that CERN is activated. These are unedited images right here, right? These are just images people are posting on Twitter.
Speaker 2:Yep. There's a lot of them. You know, it's supposed to be that there's a very specific type of storm that's combined with a sunset. What's that?
Speaker 1:A derecho?
Speaker 2:I think that's call it. The derecho storms. But, like, look at this. It's like insanity.
Speaker 1:Like, have you ever like, I my whole life, probably like most of our listeners, I've observed weather my entire life. Right? Like, I've gone outside since I was a baby and noticed what's in the sky. I have never ever seen, like, a green cloud from hell like this.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It looks straight out of stranger things. And look at the left side. It looks like there's a that could be the photo, but it looks like there's like a red line
Speaker 1:coming coming down. Yeah. Weird. Yeah. Well and so let's also talk about this video, this hand of God, because this is something that's as you mentioned in the beginning, so can you explain what this is and, like, where this happened?
Speaker 2:Yeah. This is a this is a storm cloud formation in Saskatchewan, which is in Canada, you know, up north. And somebody recorded this. And if you play the video, you can see lightning shooting out of the hand. Here it comes.
Speaker 2:Boom. Man. I mean, I don't think that that was the Steapuff marshmallow man doing that on the set. Like, you know, this is a just look at that. It's like just a day just a day before CERN, you know, reboots.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I mean, how do you how do you make sense of this? Like, and again and I think that I think that what's happening is that as this stuff gets brought to the surface, like, you know, we live in a realm of illusion. You know, we can't see. It's like, are there angels and demons?
Speaker 1:Well, you have to have faith because you can't see them. Right? Like, is God real? Well, it comes down to faith. Is Satan real?
Speaker 1:It comes down to faith. Because for whatever reason, we're not allowed to see these things. Right? But what you see happening is that the real, like, the tangible manifestations of the divine. And when I say divine, it's both, like, good divine, but also the evil representation of demons and Satan.
Speaker 1:Like, they're manifesting. Like, they're absolutely manifesting. And something makes me really wonder is, like, what are they doing with CERN? Like, are they accessing something? Like, have you seen the opening ceremonies that they've done with CERN?
Speaker 2:Yeah. We've covered it on edge of wonder. You know, they have a statue of Shiva, which, depends on which part of Hinduism you look into as the god of destruction. And it's just hanging out right in front of CERN. And then you've got these strange rituals that they're doing before they run the particle accelerator, which means that this isn't just science.
Speaker 2:They're actually combining this with some sort of like strange occult belief that they have. And I'm not talking about the scientists working there necessarily. It could be above their pay grade, but it is very bizarre.
Speaker 1:Well, because, like, the video I showed you that introduced CERN, it feels kinda cool. It's like, wow. This is some really cool particle collider, and it's looks really high-tech. You look at the videos of it, and it looks like something out of, you know, Ant Man or, you know, some of these new comic book movies. But so I'm gonna pull up I'm gonna pull up one of the videos of one the opening ceremonies, but just a quick I want you to really quickly tell people where they can find you on Edge of Wonder because you guys have dug a lot into this, and you like, it's like, I pushed the bar to about here.
Speaker 1:You guys take it, like, way, way further in what you explore. And also just so you know, the links to Rob and Edge of Wonder are in the the description below. So if you wanna go follow, subscribe to their their Rumble channel, it's all in the description below. So where can people follow you that Rob?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Well, you guys, our our YouTube channel got taken down. As Seth stated, the morning that the Hunter Biden laptop story broke, I think they were afraid we were gonna say something about it, and it was a little close to Which you would have. I'm not gonna say we wouldn't have. I mean, it was a big drop, wasn't it?
Speaker 2:And so, you know, it was a little mysterious that, you know, here we are just minding our own business, really trying to just report on facts and truth that we're finding. And then they're afraid of that. Why? Why would anybody be afraid of that? Shouldn't we be educated people that understand these things?
Speaker 2:And like Seth said, like, you know, the reason why we started Edge of Wonder is because we were just tired of the mainstream media really holding back a lot of stories. Like it just seemed like the corporate interests of these media companies were dictating what people are looking into. And then why is everybody hiding so many things? So why not just look into these things, give it a shot, see if they're true or not, and then have a discussion, hold a discussion about it. And we're on Rumble now, so you can subscribe to us on Rumble, please do.
Speaker 2:It would really help us a lot if you subscribed and watched us on Rumble. Another place that we found solace is actually strangely, I started a TikTok account last month and videos there are going viral. People are thirsty for truthful information. They wanna know what's behind some of these stories like Stranger Things. I have a video on there that covers the Montauk Project, which is what the Stranger Things story was based on.
Speaker 2:And I go over exactly what happened with the Montauk Project and what potentially what the government has been hiding from us. And, you know, that video has gotten over 550,000 views now on TikTok. It's been spread around like people wanna know about this stuff, you know? So please follow me on TikTok. You can follow us on Rumble.
Speaker 2:And please, if you can subscribe to rise.tv where Seth and I actually have our home. Rise.tv is, it's the future of what I think is, you know, I know there's a lot of other places doing this, but for, I think, alternative content where we need more people digging into these things and finding the truth, that's how you can support us. We're not, you know, necessarily on Patreon or something like that. We're on rise. Tv.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Exactly. I'm gonna go ahead and pull up this video that you guys have covered. And this is just this is insane. So ask yourself.
Speaker 1:So this is what this is is it's the opening ceremony to one of the tunnels that's part of the CERN kinda infrastructure, which is massive. But, you know, you might think of CERN as a science experiment, but ask yourself, why would they be doing this weird stuff at the opening of a scientific institution if this science experiment was not in some way tied to some sort of devious agendas. Let me go ahead and pull this up for you. Now it's It's like a weird
Speaker 2:one of those, like, weird Super Bowl halftime rituals.
Speaker 1:Exactly. It's it's frightening. It gets actually scary, but what's crazy is that in this video, which I'll pull here's the I'll I'll play it soon. If you look to the side of the video, it's like they have stadium seating, and there's all these people in suits. Like, there are, like, all these business professionals that are watching this.
Speaker 1:It's just like, what kinda weird? Like, if this is what they do in public at the opening of, like, a science facility, what do these people do behind closed doors? I don't I don't know. So let me go and play this for you. And I apologize for the audio of the podcast listeners that you don't get to see this horrific display, and there's just kind of weird noises.
Speaker 1:So there's gonna be about two minutes of odd sounds and noises. And maybe Rob and I can give a little banter and commentary because it's it's quite interesting to watch. Train car half naked. It's definitely the best thing. She's hot.
Speaker 1:She's hot. It's like Marty. And here's some some of this machine.
Speaker 2:The challenge here is really, really negative. Look at, like, the destructive forces of nature in the background on the screen.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Look at this. So I'm gonna pause this really quick. So this is this is literally a and I apologize for the nudity here. It's a topless woman hanging from the ceiling with some sort of strap on her to kinda hold her up.
Speaker 1:It looks like some sort of like kind of BDM or whatever that weird, like the gimp stuff from, you know, a pulp fiction. And she's got this she almost looks like a Lady Gaga figure, but she has these giant angel wings strapped to her arms, and she's wearing a mask of like a cyborg alien looking baby. Like, just watch this.
Speaker 2:I had no idea that ewogs were gonna be in this. It's like those things from dark crystal.
Speaker 1:Why is he laughing?
Speaker 2:Doesn't it? Like, honestly, Seth, if you were here, what would you be thinking? Like, you and I would just be, like, laughing at one with one another.
Speaker 1:I I well, this is the last scene I'll play, but look how evil this is. It looks like there's some sort of demon woman hanging from the ceiling and being, like, worshiped or something. Just watch this this scene. And look at now look at this. Now you got people marching, holding animal skulls, like like ram skulls and deer antlers.
Speaker 1:It's it's the same stuff. If you're if you've seen those pictures of those, like, supposedly, those Illuminati parties where, like, the Rockefellers and stuff, they're wearing these deer heads. And, you know, and and again but look at this. Sitting in the back is a row of people in suits. These are probably like world leaders and politicians that are watching this.
Speaker 2:Yeah. This is like oh, and look at that guy on the left. He almost looks like like, what what is he wearing? That's so strange.
Speaker 1:I it's yes. Okay. We've had enough of the video now. That's I think it's quite enough of that.
Speaker 2:But I think I need to go take a shower. I'll be right back.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I need to go throw up. But but this is so this is what really gets me because, you know, I think that we touch on a lot of topics that you could say border into the conspiracy. And, you know, if you were to tell someone say you're to tell your friend that, know, watches not even, like, watches CNN, maybe just watches Fox News and, you know, reads the New York Times or whatever. And if you told them that all of these scientists in, you know, in Switzerland have built this massive thing, and if you were to say that they're doing really evil experiments and maybe trying to access other portals and access demons, they would probably think that you were a nutcase.
Speaker 1:But if you showed them this video, if you said, okay. Hold on. Maybe you think I'm crazy. But just watch the opening ceremony for one of their tunnels. How could anyone watch this and not think that these people are either like completely insane or worshiping Satan?
Speaker 2:You know, that's a great point. Like, imagine this ceremony being done in like the 1950s, what people would think, or the thirties or the twenties or back even a little bit more. Like, they would just be like, you need to kill those people. They're satanic. That's what they would say.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Let let alone during the witch the Salem witch trials.
Speaker 2:And, Seth, we haven't even talked about this yet, but there's two really interesting quotes from people involved with CERN and quantum computation that I wanna talk about here. So one is quantum comp I'm gonna read the quotes. Okay? So quantum computation will be the first technology that allows useful tasks to be formed, to be performed in collaboration between parallel universes. This is by David Deutsch, I think his name is.
Speaker 2:All right, now this is from someone at CERN. Out of this door might come something or we might send something through it. Sergio Bertolucci, director of research and scientific computing at CERN. They're trying to open the door.
Speaker 1:Director of research that they're trying to open a portal. And again, that that goes in what we were talking about. Right? Is that, you know, do angels exist? Do demons exist?
Speaker 1:Well, it seems like they're trying to use science to open a portal, but my guess I'm just going on a limb here. Is my guess is that if they perform that kind of ceremony and they open a portal, you're not gonna have these angels waltzing in that are, like, playing harps and blowing trumpets and saying, oh, mankind, we're here to to serve you. Like, you're gonna get you're gonna get Satan with, like, some sort of half dog, half goat creature, and it'll probably gonna eat everybody in the audience.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It's gonna it's gonna be a rehash of the last battle of Lord of the Rings, basically.
Speaker 1:But, like, what? So but here's okay. Obviously, there's this there's this insanity. We've we have the guidestones. We've got really everything that we've seen.
Speaker 1:We've seen the pandemic, like all this insanity. And and, you know, topping it all off is these demonic ceremonies at CERN. And, you know, people say that, you know, our our world is run by, you know, Lucifer worshiping pedophiles. And I I have to say that some of this evidence seems to point towards that. Right?
Speaker 1:But what do you think like, what's the purpose of this? Like, why are they doing these crazy scenarios? Like, you guys at Edgewater, you've you've deeply gone into the occult, you've gone into symbolism. What's behind this?
Speaker 2:I really do think like it's not an it's not a it's not a quick answer. It's not a simple question. The issue is that you really like it's like, if you go back to asking the question, well, like, who's in charge of Vanguard really? Right? And you really start digging into that, you start seeing these tentacles involved in all kinds of strange things.
Speaker 2:And with science and modern art and things like that, they've really set this situation up for themselves where there's no accountability, there's no way for them to be held accountable for the destructive forces that they're working with, and how they're going about operating. Kind of leads to the question, if you're atheist, which most scientists are, I mean, it's just it's a fact right now, right? If you're atheists, and you're blowing particles together, what is the point other than destruction? Because all scientists showed us pretty much over the last one hundred years is destruction. Their entire mode of operation is based around killing and destroying.
Speaker 2:Oh, let's blow these particles together and see what happens. Let's kill all of these animals. Let's test all of these new drugs on them and see what happens. Let's like cut off some limbs and try to grow them back. Like, it's all just like destroy, destroy, destroy, destroy.
Speaker 2:And why would you do that unless you were really trying to do something, you know? And there is a direct correlation between what guys, what occultists, you know, back in the day were doing and today, you know? Like, it's not that hard to find. I mean, you go back and you start looking at some of these like Golden Order of the Golden Dawn and like all of these things, and they were trying to blow open particles. I mean, open doorways.
Speaker 2:Like they were holding rituals to blow these doorways open. And maybe they're just, they're looking at this as like science is a way that we can do that. Because otherwise, you know, why do that? And if you look at these families, like if you really start digging into what is the belief system behind these families, you start finding some strange things and you start finding some strange whistleblowers. And some of these whistleblowers were killed, flat out killed for talking about some of this stuff like the Illuminati and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:Why kill them if they're crazy?
Speaker 1:Don't kill someone who's the German banker. I forget his name.
Speaker 2:That was really sad.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And can you give a little bit of background about him? Because that
Speaker 2:was really Well, one, I can't there's a lot of bankers, but there was a particular German banker who was exposing just child pedophilia in that entire culture. And he was weeping about it because he to endure and sit through some of that stuff and he wanted some reprieve from it. It was really sad. So those things really do exist. I'm actually not sure if that gentleman is still around right now.
Speaker 1:No. He's dead. But they're
Speaker 2:yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:He actually, his name was actually, sorry, he was Dutch. His name was Ronald Bernard. He was a Dutch banker. I think that he ended up he was in Florida at the end of his life, I think that they found him hung just, you know, coincidentally. But yeah.
Speaker 1:Because I remember him, and that that video has been scrubbed from the Internet, but I remember seeing a video of him, you know, in tears.
Speaker 2:Cannot watch him weeping and think that's in tears.
Speaker 1:Well, because I remember he's talking about because he was one of the bankers for a lot of these families, these wealthy families in in these big organizations. And he was going he got invited to their parties, and he was it was kinda strange for him because at first, they were like regular parties, then they were orgies. It was very sexual with lots of nudity, but like actual orgies, like eyes wide shut type stuff. But then he said that they brought the children out as at a certain point. And he started talking about some of the sacrifice, and he was weeping.
Speaker 1:You could see this guy was not an actor. He was describing what was happening. And if you look at these organizations, like, if you look into say who's funding CERN, let alone if you look at CERN's logo, which is basically six six six. I'll pull that up in a second here. If you look at that, it's like there's an evil agenda.
Speaker 1:And, you know, actually, I was so I was at an event with your co host, Ben, and we were down in Texas for an event, and there was a guy that was at the same event. It was a Patriot Voice event. And he came and he found Ben and I, and he he'd been watching Edge of Wonder for a really long time, actually. And he goes, look. So this guy at one point was a really, really, really high level employee, and I think he was under, I'm not gonna say, maybe it was it was a Microsoft type incorporation.
Speaker 1:He was very careful with what he said, but and he said that he was actually, like, his particular skill set was so valuable to this company, and that he kept getting promoted, kept getting promoted. At a certain point, he was on the verge of getting like a massive promotion over in Europe. And he said that he went out with these these two high level gentlemen that were at the company that were kind of grooming him for this promotion that my guess is it would have made him like a multi multi millionaire, like extreme success. And he said that he was at dinner with these guys talking, and all of a sudden, they started talking about sleeping with children. And he was really put off by it.
Speaker 1:Like he was like, Woah, woah, like, okay. And then he kind of passed over it that first time. And then he just thought, okay, what was that? What was that? What was that about?
Speaker 1:And then like, you know, he kind of laid low. And then short time later, I think was a couple weeks later, he had another meeting with them. And they started talking about it again. And he like that was when he drew a line. He refused to go forward with that.
Speaker 1:And he actually left the company very quickly and moved to a different country, like, I think in South America, and they were tracking him. It goes really, really crazy, but he was saying that that that was like it was he could only get there was a glass ceiling with what he was doing in his with his career. And the only way to cross over that glass ceiling was if you stepped into that realm of Epstein, like all the crazy stuff that we're seeing in the world today.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And you find you find similar similar experiences being retold about the music industry and other industries too, just working your way up. And, you know, one of the reasons for these secret societies was specifically to test people to see if they could maintain a secret or not. And if they could, they would get promoted. And if they couldn't, they would stay at whatever level they were at.
Speaker 2:And then only the people at that 33 degree or whatever it is were, you know, enlightened into the higher forms of whatever, you know, secret arts that they had. But, you know, like, this was being retold in Stanley Kubrick's, Eyes Wide Shut, and, you know, he's no longer with us. Why?
Speaker 1:Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. So, folks, it's a few minutes till three eastern time, and we're gonna now start heading over to Rise TV. So there's actually there's a is a handful of questions I still wanna ask you, Rob.
Speaker 1:But because we're still on YouTube, I can't ask you these questions because Yeah.
Speaker 2:Be careful with that.
Speaker 1:Exactly. But so we've I've got some some juicy questions for you, but we also wanna do a q and I sorry, q and a for the audience. If you have any it's not just actually questions. If you have any comments on this stuff that you wanna share with us and talk to us about, that's also a place for us. And look, folks, if you want to come join us on Rise TV, there is a free trial in the link below.
Speaker 1:And not only is Rise TV an incredible entertainment platform, we've got hundreds of videos. I mean, the Edge of Wonder library over there is insane going into the deep state and false flag events and stuff that actually got you kicked off of YouTube, like, literally. Not only is that, but it really though, by joining, you're supporting us on our mission. And we all recognize so Rob is maybe you don't know this, but Rob is actually one of the founders of Rise TV. And he's been on the front lines of trying to tell the truth and being really, really heavily persecuted for it, like kicked off of things, financial stuff shut down, like massive loss of income.
Speaker 1:But Rise TV is a platform that we built because we believe that this information still needs to get out there. And actually, so, you know, if you've been watching this video on YouTube or Rumble or Facebook, we are still trying to produce as much content as possible on the public platform so we can get this information out to people. But Rise TV is what allows us to do that because we're not making money on YouTube. Rob, you know, you know, if someone has a successful say you're a liberal content creator on YouTube, you've got a million followers, you could be making a hundred or $200,000 a month. Like, that's how much YouTube pays.
Speaker 1:But I think that my last check from YouTube was like $37, and I'm lucky I even got a check from YouTube. Yeah. Good job. So that's why we built Rise
Speaker 2:I'm surprised you didn't have to pay them 37 for
Speaker 1:Yeah. Exactly. And so just another reminder that in the description below the video, a, there's the link for a free trial. There's also all the links to where you can find the Man in America podcast. I really encourage you to to subscribe to whatever, you know, app you're using for podcasts, And you can find the link for Rob's and Ben's Edge of Wonder channel on Rumble, which is where they do a lot of amazing coverage.
Speaker 1:So, Rob, before we hop over to Rise, do you have any last thoughts for the public channels?
Speaker 2:I just wanna thank everyone for watching this. And there's actually a lot more where this came from. I mean, we really just touched the surface of a lot of these subjects. And I think if you're really interested in content like this and trying to figure out what's going on and even delve into some of those weirder things, like, check out our all content section on rise.tv. You won't be disappointed.
Speaker 2:And, you know, Seth and I are gonna be doing more and more stuff together. You know, we have fun on these shows, so be looking forward to that.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Also, Rob, we just we've got over over 4,000 people watching us live right now.
Speaker 2:That's Hey. Thank you guys very much
Speaker 1:for watching. We really appreciate that. And Rob, thank you for bringing a lot of this research together as well, which is really helps to make a great show. So alright. So folks, we're now gonna head over to Rise TV only.
Speaker 1:Again, if you wanna join us, I hope that you do join us over there. We'd love to see you, but there's a link in the description below for a free trial. Come check it out. We hope you're
Speaker 2:gonna Oh, and hey, Seth. One more thing. Yes. I'll just bring up that when we go over to Rise TV, I'm gonna reveal something that I've never revealed before because it's really sensitive about some the research that I did about one specific whistleblower named John Todd, who revealed some things. He ended up dying as well for revealing a bunch of stuff about, you know, the Illuminati or whatever.
Speaker 2:And I'm gonna actually go into that and some of the agenda over there. So if you wanna come join us, we'll reveal some of that stuff and get a little bit more into it. I think it's more appropriate for the Man in America audience who is kind of attuned to these things. So we'll bring it up there.
Speaker 1:All right, great. All right, so thank you all for watching us. Dom, you can go ahead and cut off the public streams, and we're now gonna jump over to Rise TV. So just remember, folks on Rise TV, if you have a question or even if you have a comment and you just wanna share your thoughts, write comment in your your your post. That way, you know, it'll get collected so Rob and I can see what you're commenting.
Speaker 1:But also then we're gonna be talking about the any questions that you have. So let me go ahead and pull up this information here. So alright. So now we're home on home on Rise TV.
Speaker 2:All right. What's up, everybody?
Speaker 1:Oh, and Rob, are you guys are going live tonight, right, on Rise and Rumble and everything? Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. We're gonna we're gonna actually do do an episode on the Georgia Guidestones a little bit more on CERN and hit some Stranger Things content over there as well. Because the Stranger Things, the final two episodes just dropped. Everybody's talking about it. So we're gonna kinda go through some of that as well.
Speaker 1:Great. Okay. We we've already got some cool questions. Alright. So from Eye of Agamotto, he says, ever wonder what would happen if this year a huge mass of people would march onto Bohemian Grove during their yearly ritual?
Speaker 1:Maybe if we all dressed as Alex Jones, we can get in.
Speaker 2:I think that's an excellent idea. I think Alex Jones is the costume you wanna be in for any type of work that you're doing when it comes to trolling the deep state. It's basically a get out of jail free card, and it's a get into any event card as well.
Speaker 1:That's true. But actually, Rob, before we go further with the questions, now that I know I've got confirmation that we're off the public streams, I wanna dive so I've I've listened to some of John Todd's stuff. I know he did a lot with the music industry. My wife, Kate, actually, she was the first person that shared his information with me. So why don't you go and dive into this this information on John Todd because you've really piqued my interest.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll premise this with a couple of things before I say this, because this is very sensitive. And so one of the reasons why I haven't brought this up. And what it is basically is that, first of all, with what I'm telling you, this has nothing to do with my beliefs of what a person chooses for themselves. Everybody makes their own decisions, and, you know, it's up to everyone to kind of make those decisions. And I don't have anything against any person of any belief, okay?
Speaker 2:So I just wanna say that. But one of the things that was pointed out, and what's interesting is this was in the late, this is in the late, in the eighties or something like that when John Todd was kind of rolling with all of this stuff, you know, my ears might be a little bit off just because I haven't like looked into this for a long time, but he was talking about several different things. And one of them was, he was emphasizing like, look, it doesn't matter whether or not you at home believe what they believe, but I need to tell you what they're doing. And this is what he was saying. And he brought up this book called the Necronomicon.
Speaker 2:The Necronomicon is like this like book of the dead, this like Bible that they have. And there's only three in existence. Actually, this movie called The Ninth Gate was like all about this whole thing. And actually you can look into it. And it was even accuracies and where the books were in this movie, right?
Speaker 2:And the book actually goes through and kind of tells what they think their origin story is, like where they came from, how they look at things. You know, they even bring up like different beings, like these hobbit beings and different things like that. But what's interesting is even before any of this was a thing, he was like, Look, he's like, What you have to understand is that the sign for Lucifer is a rainbow. So if you see a rainbow somewhere, the sign for Lucifer is the rainbow. That's what they do because they want this idea of all the colors.
Speaker 2:Lucifer represents everything. He's the god of this world kind of thing. This is what they believe, right? And what's strange now is that we have these flags that are being flown by people, and they don't even realize that they're representing a flag that's an agenda that's being pushed in society that's by these people. And it's in plain sight.
Speaker 2:And the only way you'd know this stuff is if you have enough time like you and me to start looking into these things and really dig in. And we're all just being taken for a ride right now. Everybody's waving these flags and they have no idea what those flags mean or where they came from. They think the flag maybe means like all the colors, like this kind of thing, this like hippie kind of thing, but actually, no, it's like a direct representation of this God that they worship and they're laughing in our face. We're talking about the occultists here, right?
Speaker 2:And now, again, I don't believe this. You don't have to believe this, but if that is what they believe and it could hurt us or affect us, like, it's in our interest to look into these things. I mean, certainly, like
Speaker 1:Crazy. What I I also what you see is that they try to overtake the whatever was given to us. Like, they wanna they wanna soil it. Right? And I think the the best example of that is the human body.
Speaker 1:Right? It's like the the human body is is God's greatest or one of God's greatest creations. And so it's, you know, with them, even with with their vaccine and and the patent o six zero six zero six and Luciferase, like, they they want to basically, they want to destroy the beauty that God has given us. And the rainbow, that was that was the promise. Right?
Speaker 1:Like, the the rainbow came from God after the flood. It was this beautiful sign. I mean, look, like, if you if you're walking outside after a rain, you see a rainbow or a double rainbow or a triple rainbow, it's like it's the most amazing sight ever. And I'm always like I'm always like especially as I get you know, as a kid, it's kinda cool because like, oh, rainbow. Wow.
Speaker 1:That's cool. But as an adult, I look at that. I'm like, this is a miracle. Like, this is the most beautiful thing in the world is this giant streak of color in the sky. And so the fact that, like, to me, it makes perfect sense that in their occult agenda that they view the rainbow as a sign of Lucifer, because we know that it was actually a sign of God's promise.
Speaker 1:And so the fact that they've taken that rainbow flag, and they've attached it to the the the trans and and the the gay agenda. It's really it's the agenda that, you know, maybe start off as being just for gays. But what it's turning into is is is actually the destruction of Yeah. Of children and everything. It's it's It's insane.
Speaker 2:I don't mean to put my head on my hand, but like, that is this conversation right now, which is, you know, the trans agenda. When we talk about that, if you really look into the occult side of this and you look into hermeticism, which is what we were talking about before, the entire idea revolved around hermeticism is a transformation of something, transformation of energy. The Hermistaph, this like snake with the coming in with the wings and stuff that they use for health that different elites use in their crests and all of this stuff, that's the rod of transformation. And you can just look like sacrifices, you know, we were talking about those bankers earlier, sacrifices and energy transfer can happen in a number of different ways. One is like actual sacrifice.
Speaker 2:And, you know, they do these like sexual nuptial rituals and stuff like that to gain all of this energy. And another one is like actually transforming your body into something else is considered a ritual. They can obtain the same types of energy. It's not me saying this is them, right? Like buy this stuff.
Speaker 2:So if that's true, what the heck? I mean, we're not living in the world we think we're living in. It's a much different world with many different nefarious forces that are all kind of like stacked up against us. The other thing is like, coming back to CERN, exactly. Why are you studying those particles unless your goal is to destroy God's creation?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Why are you doing that? Like, really think about it. Like, this doesn't, this is, that's
Speaker 1:not
Speaker 1:a
Speaker 1:small
Speaker 2:Like
Speaker 1:why CRISPR in gene editing, you know?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. Like we're looking at the most powerful substances in the entire universe and you're playing God with them, which is essentially a modern day Tower Of Babel. Is. Building that tower so high, what do you think is gonna happen?
Speaker 2:Of course, there's gonna be storms. You idiots. Like, why aren't you like, think through what you're doing. Be responsible people. You do have to be accountable.
Speaker 2:You know, like, it's so simple and it's so in their face and they just refuse to look at it because of this layer of atheism that they've basically shielded themselves with. It only lasts for so long. I mean, you know, also Seth, it's also something we haven't revealed yet. I haven't even revealed this on any of the shows. If you look into some people that are really excited about CERN, really obsessed with CERN, they're kind of eccentric about it.
Speaker 2:They've gone to Switzerland. They've gone and they've visited CERN or joined their team. There's this thing that all of the scientists around there talk about called CERN sickness. And like the guy got sick when he went there, right? He ends up being like, Yeah, I actually don't feel really well.
Speaker 2:I'm like nauseous and stuff. And people were laughing around there and they're like, Yeah, it's just CERN sickness. You'll get used to it eventually. And it's like, if you're getting sick around this thing, the biggest machine in the world, you know, like, what is it like, how long are you going to live? Who knows what even radiation is in there?
Speaker 2:You know, it's really bizarre. I can find that article for you later. But this is like all the stuff I've just been in the weeds in over the last, like, few weeks, you know?
Speaker 1:Well, something I wanna pull up on the CERN thing is just their logo.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Six six six. So obviously.
Speaker 1:Well, not to mention, it's a crappy logo. Like, it's a terrible logo. It's one of the worst designed logos I've ever seen for something with, like, a, you know, multi billion dollar, you know, budget. But it's like, they're not even hiding it.
Speaker 2:They slapped Optima in some sixes. That's what they did. It's terrible.
Speaker 1:Like, it's so obvious that six six six. It's like, if you're building a machine that is potentially accessing portals to other dimensions and your logo is six six six, and you do these demonic dances when you open a new tonal, it's like, well, may you know, maybe you're trying to access hell through technology to bring something into this world.
Speaker 2:And and I think it's like actions speak louder than words. Yeah. Right? And by your actions, you're a bunch of knuckleheads because your word I don't care what they're saying Yeah. Like, physics and stuff of this, whatever you're excited about, like, actions are, like in a way murder.
Speaker 2:Like who knows? Like you don't even know what's on those particles or what's in the microcosm or what other dimensions you could potentially be affecting. And you're just haphazardly ramming particles into one another and trying to track the results. Like, dumb are you really?
Speaker 1:I know. I know. So let's let's dive back into some of these questions and comments. There's some good ones here. So Luna's Ma asks, who owns the property in which the Georgia Guidestones were erected?
Speaker 1:So the guy that represented the wealthy financiers that built it, this guy that was, you know, CR Christian or RC Christian, he purchased that land and the ability to build it from a local family. It was actually a cattle grazing field. He then allowed them to have their cattle still grazing there. And also the family that owned the land was a they had a construction business. And so they they got the contract to help clear the land and prep it for the site.
Speaker 1:So that's but Rob, maybe you have some information about The
Speaker 2:the rumor is that RC Christian or whatever his name is was actually Ted Turner.
Speaker 1:I've heard that too.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So now we don't know if that's true. There's like no way to corroborate it because everyone's keeping silent about it, right? But what's interesting is that people that know Ted Turner claim that the beliefs on the tablets and everything about him, it would make sense because he's a very like kind of eccentric guy, it matches his attitude and all of that stuff. So if it was him, I mean, we know Ted Turner, big, big billionaire, very connected person to Media.
Speaker 2:Know, the usual suspects.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Right? Yeah. So just it's interesting.
Speaker 1:I think it's just kinda crazy because I'm I'm not sure if you saw that. There's a recent video going around of Nicole Kidman eating these bugs. Do you see that? Yes. Like
Speaker 2:It's going everywhere. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I think that, you know, it's it's kinda funny because it's like, what what it is is it's people are seeing that the elites are evil. Like, there's there's no like, they can't hide it anymore. They've been evil for a really long time. It's like, well, how are they all evil? It's like, well, they're evil because there's a structure of control that only allows you to get to the top if you're evil.
Speaker 1:We talked about that with the glass ceiling and the guy I mentioned, you know, the pedophiles. So these people, it's like, it's not like they all turned bad in the last ten years, like when Lady Gaga came out. It's that this has been this has been a very long time of generations and generations of evil that have had a lot of control of the world. But the thing is that before you never saw it. Like, you know, John Rockefeller was a hero.
Speaker 1:The Rothschilds, in a lot of ways, were heroes to earlier generations. But now you look at our own celebrities that we thought were heroes. But now it's like they're we're seeing the truth of it. And again, it goes back to the theme of this discussion that good and evil are really starting to reveal themselves in this world. I have to say, I'm just thankful that I positioned myself on the good side.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. Wouldn't want to be them when all their tricks run out. Let's put it that way because they've been hiding for a long time. Exactly.
Speaker 2:And there's only so long before you have to, you know, pay. Have to pay. And actually, I think also one of the things I want to point out is, you know, not always is history accurate. I mean, we hear things about some of these old families. We think that they were heroes back in the day because it was written like that.
Speaker 2:But actually back in the day, people hated these people. They like threw stuff at them. They thought they were crazy. They thought they were evil people, you know, like the Rockefellers and like their entire, that first Rockefeller, can't even remember his name anymore, but you know, with the creation of the entire oil industry. Yeah.
Speaker 2:So, you know, it's the victors write history. That's the thing. And then that's why research is so important. That's why these shows are so important to people is because we need to find out what's really going on.
Speaker 1:So there's a quick question from typing girl who says, what particular stone's message was blown up? I actually don't know. I mean, I do know that after the explosion, like, you know, they they demolished the entire stones. So I'm not sure which one in particular was targeted. It a good question, though.
Speaker 2:I wonder too if it was the English stone or not. I would imagine it would have been the English stone, but I wanted to look into that myself. I I didn't I wasn't clear on which one. But yeah, it's all destroyed now. So yay.
Speaker 1:So Christy of the Cosmos, she gave us a comment, and then she also had a question, and she donated $15. So Christy, thank
Speaker 2:you so much. Christy.
Speaker 1:Her question was or sorry, comment first. She said, this is actually quite nice. She goes, you inspired my husband and I to buy our own homestead out in the country. We move in a month. Can't wait.
Speaker 1:That's awesome. That that right there brings me so much joy. And actually, saw Kate, who's over in the in in this the control room, when she read that comment, I saw her send it over to me. She has a giant smile on her face. So that that's really nice.
Speaker 1:You know, that's yeah. That makes me smile.
Speaker 2:So That's awesome.
Speaker 1:So Christy also go ahead, Rob. Yeah. She said I had a dream where everyone was pointing up at the sky. They were having a moment like they were seeing Jesus, but it wasn't. Do you think they're planning on using holograms?
Speaker 1:And how do we discern what is real and what isn't? Here's a good question. What do you think, Rob?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is a good question because technology has pushed so far, right? But I really think that they're not going to just use something like that. It's actually like, I actually believe like it's against the rules here to do something that's too outside. So if you can count on if, like, if there is something crazy happening in the sky, like for real, can almost count on a % that being like the actual hand of God, because I don't believe that they want to do, like there's no reason for them to do that. It would blow their entire story out of the water.
Speaker 2:This story that they've been faking for so long about evolution and science and all of this stuff, it's gone. It's over in a second. Like they're not going to do that. So if you see something up there and it looks real and it, you'll know. Yeah.
Speaker 2:You will know deep That's
Speaker 1:the thing is that I would tell someone is that if you see a real angel in the sky or you see God or Jesus in the sky, your entire, every cell of your body will know that's real. Like, my guess is that it'll be an experience like you've never experienced before, but if it's a hologram of Michael Jackson moonwalking across the sky with, like, a UFO behind them, you know, you'll probably be able tell it's a hologram. So so here's a question that both Pleasant fifty six and Cynthia Remain had, which is what about the time capsule with the Guidestones? Like, what is it? You know, who owns it?
Speaker 1:Do you know any information about that?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Sorry, guys. I didn't I actually didn't look into that for this episode. I had in a in previous times looked into that what was in there. And I think it was like, you know, your basic stuff for after the apocalypse.
Speaker 2:But I don't remember. So don't quote me on that.
Speaker 1:I heard it. There was it were some some of Bill Gates' baby pictures.
Speaker 2:Probably. Yeah. And probably a bunch of syringes with vaccines in them.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Actually, Scott Monson has a great question for you, Rob. Do you think that Nicole Kidman is a lizard person?
Speaker 2:You know what? I actually feel really bad for Nicole Kidman. I feel like she was born into a cabal family and that she's been basically like Britney Spears her whole life and that she doesn't really have a choice of her own. I think she was really in love with Tom Cruise and that was a contract, like a Hollywood contract and probably broke her heart. And I just feel like she just does stuff based on what they ask her to do.
Speaker 2:And just seems like a sad example of that, to be honest. I don't think a lot of these Hollywood people have a lot of power. I think some of them maybe a small portion, but they're usually behind the scenes.
Speaker 1:It's true. Yeah. Even the video of her eating these bugs, it's like, why would any Like why
Speaker 2:do that unless you're trying to humiliate her? Exactly.
Speaker 1:Exactly. So here's a comment. This is from chicken coop lady who has been AWOL. Chicken coop lady, where have you been? And who says, love seeing you guys live again.
Speaker 1:Have you ever had any of these secret behind the curtain people come after you? Any stories?
Speaker 2:None that I'd like to retell here. That would take a long time. And there are some, I just think that there are sketchy people out there. There are sketchy people out there. You know, there's infiltration, I think, in the community that Seth and I operate in, you know, like just use your discernment.
Speaker 2:That's the main thing. I think like, you know, they don't have to necessarily come after you. They can just shut all of your businesses down. So that's what they did. I mean, they just shut our YouTube channel down and tried to shut us up, but we were luckily a few steps ahead.
Speaker 1:Well, you also, you had Rachel Maddow do a hit piece on you guys. That's
Speaker 2:You know, when an ex member of the Friends cast comes after you, I mean, you know, it doesn't really bother you that much.
Speaker 1:Who was she on there, Ross?
Speaker 2:She was no. No. She was Chandler. She looks exactly like Chandler. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Spitting image. What's his name? That actor?
Speaker 1:Matt not Matthew Perry. Yeah. LeBlanc? Joey LeBlanc? Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:Matthew Perry.
Speaker 2:She looks like Matt she he, she, he, it looks like Matthew Perry.
Speaker 1:And to answer that question, I had a when when Trump first shared the video, the Potlace of America, I had a lot of strange characters coming after me and people driving by my house even taking pictures, which was weird at one point. And I did it one the scariest thing for me was like, got a very threatening letter from Dominion's attorneys. Because these were attorneys that were retained by Bill Gates on behalf of Dominion. Like, actually, Lynn Wood told me on the phone that that Bill Gates was funding the Dominion attorneys, which is kind of an interesting conversation. But that was that was kind of that was frightening to get that.
Speaker 1:Because I'm like, I'm just some little dude in my basement. And here I've got I've got this company that's like, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars behind them, like coming after me. It's like, what do I do?
Speaker 2:Yeah, actually, so my equivalent of that, Seth, was when I wrote a piece, it was an episode on the history of Bitcoin and how, like my theory was that it was built basically to hide a secure way to make human trafficking trades online. And I like, you know, that's part of it, right? Obviously, that's not the whole story, but it was very thorough and it dug into a certain foundation that kind of manages Bitcoin and who was in charge of it. And it wasn't long before, you know, somebody took video down and put it up on a platform that we didn't want it on. And then we ended up getting a cease and desist.
Speaker 2:I actually had to take the episode. It was kind of similar spooky, like, but, you know, what's going on here? And, know, it was like, the weird thing is is, like, it was all backed up. But when someone has, like, infinite funds, you know, you're not gonna win in a legal battle. I mean, you're not.
Speaker 2:It's that's not how this works. You know?
Speaker 1:Actually, here's a is a good question from q trooper and who makes a comment. And I'm glad that that q trooper, I'm glad that you've minced this because I wanted to talk about this exact thing. So he says in the comment, if it was a bomb, it doesn't negate the hand of God in the destruction of the Georgia Guidestones, does it? Right? So he's asking is like, well, okay.
Speaker 1:Is if it was lightning, is that the hand of God? And if it's a bomb, is that the hand of man? And I'll share my thoughts quickly because I actually I've talked a lot with my wife about this, and I think that actually, I think it's it's one and the same. Because whether man is carrying out something on earth or whether God is carrying out something on earth, like, to me, it's one and the same because, like, God uses whatever, I believe, whatever is on earth to carry out what needs to be done. Right?
Speaker 1:And so even if you look at, say, a a a you know, say, say there's a man made virus that was released, and it killed a lot of people, hypothetically. It's like, would you say that that was was that God's will to have that happen? Well, it's like, well, in my opinion, God allowed it. So or say there's a say, you know, here's a good discussion with this is, you know, geo manipulation. Right?
Speaker 1:The weather modification. If the geoengineering, if they engineer a really bad storm, like one of the hurricanes over New Orleans, for instance, and they use their technology to make that hurricane cripple that region, it's like, well, was that man acting? Or was that an act of God? Because it was man acting. It's like, well, to me, it's like anything that happens on Earth, like this is ultimately, this earth isn't Satan's dominion, this earth is God's dominion.
Speaker 1:And so anything that happens still is done within the control of God. What do you think about that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is a complicated, this gets into a lot of paradox ical type of conversations here. But what I would say is like, you as a person, you need to make sure you're doing good. So like, first of all, is like, make sure you are looking inside and that your conscious is clear and you're not doing anything wrong, hurting another person, anything like that. Like violence is, don't, you know, there's a time for war, but that's not what we're talking about, right? So that's the first thing.
Speaker 2:I think that this is a very complicated situation right now. And, you know, it's sort of like there's a story that I always reference in Chinese about the monkey king trying to jump off of the Buddhist palm. And no matter how far he jumps, he even jumps like through outer space and he's on the other side of the cosmos and he gets to that end, you know, and he like pees, you know, just to kind of be like, I did it. I'm off of the palm or Like just
Speaker 1:did it the palm
Speaker 2:of the Yeah. Then he finds out that he's on the finger or something. And then he gets like, gets basically not damped, but he, you know, he gets put into like, into prison basically for it. So like that's the thing is like, you never really jump off the palm of God. And that's what the evildoers don't really understand with everything that they're doing is that even though that they may be controlling things for a period of time, that it's all going to play into a greater symphony that is conducted by the man upstairs.
Speaker 2:And so that's the thing that I hold onto. At the same time, man has been given, you know, his freedom to make decisions. And sometimes those decisions are poor, we've been given a lot of examples of that. I mean, look into the story of like Sodom and Gomorrah and what happens when kings make the wrong decisions for enough time. And then finally the reign of terror from God comes down from the heavens and just wipes everything out.
Speaker 2:I mean, you you really are only given so many chances before that happens. And I think right now, the fact that we're here, that we have a chance to do good and to improve ourselves in this like short period of time before something crazy happens is a blessing and we should take it because, you know, if we're looking at the quality of human beings on the planet right now, probably we shouldn't be here. I mean, no offense, but it's like things don't look good out there. You know, it's worse than it's ever been. And so, like, it's only a matter of time before we make that change or something happens.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I agree completely. Here's a question from Soo Pooh. And so we'll take one more question after this because it's it's 328. We're nearing our our, you know, 03/30 conclusion.
Speaker 1:So Soo Pooh says, who is the artist behind the CERN production?
Speaker 2:Yeah. That was there was a there was a I can't it's in my notes here somewhere, but there was a, like, a mason basically who who is responsible for erecting them, and and it was the only other guy that knows who the financer was of that, but he's not talking.
Speaker 1:Oh, no. No. This is the the artist behind the CERN production.
Speaker 2:Oh, CERN. Oh, CERN. Sorry. What what was that?
Speaker 1:Who was the artist behind the CERN production?
Speaker 2:Yeah. I don't know.
Speaker 1:Like, probably I also guess, like, Marina Abramovich.
Speaker 2:Abramovich. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Is that yeah. That's that's my guess too.
Speaker 2:Looked like one of her things.
Speaker 1:It looked like something she would do. It's like that with, like, Lady Gaga. I'm surprised Lady Gaga wasn't singing some sort of song at that event. And that's just that's just one of many ceremonies. There's been other ceremonies.
Speaker 1:They have these big digital screens. And we didn't get into the whole Travis Scott thing. And the fact that Travis Scott's concert that, like, where everyone died, it looked like there was literally a CERN on stage. Actually, Kate just found for me in the notes that the opening ceremony was choreographed by Volker Hess. Volker Hess.
Speaker 2:Some European art art dance or a modern art group or something because that was very just like trashy modern art stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah. It was. It was. Alright. So last comment, which was the phone in with.
Speaker 1:This is from oak c eighty eight. He says long time follower from edge of wonder days. Rob, bringing Seth onto the platform was genius.
Speaker 2:Yeah. We're lucky to have Seth. It's been great. It's a dream working with your best friends on a platform. So it's great.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. And actually, Rob, I mean, Rob was one of the main inspirations for even getting into this, you know, like the fact that I knew these guys, Ben and Rob, that I'd always known just to be Ben and Rob, and I saw what they were able to do with Edge and Wonder and get in front of get in front of a camera and reach a lot of people. And it was just like that you guys paved the way for me to realize
Speaker 2:it's possible to And I have to say, you know, Seth and I have worked together for a long time. Like, this isn't the first time and Seth's really influenced my life a lot. So I don't even know if Edge of Wonder would have been possible if him and I weren't working together when we were. So it's another one of those beautiful paradoxical things.
Speaker 1:It is. It is. Alright. So folks, it's 03:30 now. We're gonna end today's show.
Speaker 1:But I just wanna thank everyone that came on here. And we've got 270 people watching live on on Rise right now, which is fantastic. You know? So everyone, if you're new here, welcome. Thank you so very much for coming over.
Speaker 1:Make sure that you poke around. Even after you finish this video, go up to the all content tab, and there's a button on the menu, and just scroll through, and you're gonna find so much good content. Rob's done a lot. I've done a lot. If you wanna watch the most recent Man in America series that wasn't released on the public platforms, it's called Deep Insight.
Speaker 1:Click on the man in America, you know, on the homepage, you can go and see that. Just look for it. It's called deep insight. That's a great series. Ben and Rob just released their big oil series, which was excellent.
Speaker 2:You guys, check out the big oil industrial complex. If you wanna know about what's happening now, why your gas is affected the way that it is, and you wanna go deep dive into history and, like, look at all of that, please go check it out. It's amazing. You'll love it. It's like classic edge of wonder stuff.
Speaker 2:It's beautiful.
Speaker 1:And also tonight at 07:30, you and Ben are gonna be live, which will be on on Rumble as well, but you're gonna have the the q and a portion afterwards only in Rise TV. So you might as well watch on Rise TV in general. And then every Friday night is F and L, which is Friday Night Live. This Friday, I'm not gonna be part of it because I am actually gonna be traveling. I'm I'm I'm going to the Reawaken America tour this weekend in Virginia Beach.
Speaker 1:I'll be speaking on Saturday evening. So that's gonna be live streamed on my Rumble channel, so I won't be here for FNL. But I think actually, Rob, you're hosting it with a famous director. Is that right? Well,
Speaker 2:John Paul Rice. John Paul Rice is a good friend and he's a director. He's directed some movies about the children's situation and just a beautiful human being and always had great conversations with him. We're going to be talking about all kinds of internal things that we're struggling with right now. And yeah, the conversation is gonna be great.
Speaker 1:Fantastic. So all right. Well, thank you again so much for joining us. And we're so thankful to have you because you are literally the reason why we can do this.
Speaker 2:Yeah. We yeah. We need you guys more than you need us. So
Speaker 1:Yeah. That's true. That's true. So alright, folks. Well, well, you know, you'll see Rob tonight, and then I'll be back again next Tuesday, and we'll go from there.
Speaker 1:So thank you everyone for being here. Have a wonderful, wonderful day. Have a great weekend. Stay away from large guidestones that have evil messages on the They
Speaker 2:might fall.
Speaker 1:They might fall get blown up. Yep. And if you see green skies, just just head inside. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Rub the other way.
Speaker 1:Stuff. Probably some weird chem trails. So Yeah. Alright. Well, thank you.
Speaker 1:And, Rob, thank you for joining me on the Man in America show. It's great to have you.
Speaker 2:Thanks so much for having me. I really appreciate being here. Love you guys so much. Thanks for, you know, it just feels like home here. So thank you.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And I have a feeling we'll be doing a lot more together. It's just a feeling.
Speaker 2:I have feeling you're right.
Speaker 1:All right. Thank you, everyone. Take care. Have a wonderful day.