The White Stripes

Reverse Retro Night on LLN as the Leafs down the Sabres 5-2!! Roscoe / Suthy / Biehner / Darty

Show Notes

WELCOME BACK TO LEAFS LATE NIGHT! Presented by Inside The Rink

Roscoe, Suthy, Biehner, Darty

Tonight's Topics

• Reverse! Questions First
• THAT WENT IN!
• William "Styles" Nylander
• 12 Game Pt Streak
• No Worlds, Canada vs US

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Host

Biehner

Father - Husband - MechanicMaple Leafs Fanatic / Hockey HistorianCo-Host and contributor w/ The Leafs Late Night Podcast

Host

Suthy

Maple Leafs post-game podcast available everywhere with @FanalystSteph and Roscoe [e-mail]

Guest

Darty Brodeur

Court Jester @leafslatenight. Can’t shoot straight, yet I’m always shooting’ pearls😎🏒🥅 “Pain is Temporary, Leafs are forever” 🍁

Producer

Roscoe

Where it's Never Too Late for the Leafs💙🤍Presented by @inside_the_rink🎙️Roscoe @FanalystSteph @Andrew_jds @biehn25 @dartybrodeur🎙️Opinions are our own 😎

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[roscoe]: welcome back it is reversed retro night
welcome to leaves late night i'm your host

[roscoe]: rosco joined by dart broder surprised guest
here benner and southey well it's never too

[roscoe]: late for the leaves presented by inside
the rink and the reason i say surprised

[roscoe]: guests here in dartybrodur we're not on
video tonight

[Darty Brodeur]: yeah

[roscoe]: but he's rocking what i can only
call la elliot freedman car cast as i'm

[roscoe]: looking at him in a gym right

[Darty Brodeur]: oh

[roscoe]: now and

[Darty Brodeur]: h

[roscoe]: you can hear the

[Darty Brodeur]: h

[roscoe]: music pumping in the background and i
see this guy just going on a machine

[roscoe]: you want right

[Darty Brodeur]: this

[roscoe]: now

[Darty Brodeur]: is a sibexelyptical right it was the
quietest most modern and i think it's at

[Darty Brodeur]: least a

[roscoe]: yeah

[Darty Brodeur]: fifteen hundred dollar machine all right so
i figured

[roscoe]: uh

[Darty Brodeur]: if i was going to do multi
task i'd pick

[roscoe]: h

[Darty Brodeur]: something that wouldn't have too much interference
on our microphone and still get maximum caloryburnage

[roscoe]: i

[biehner_]: for

[roscoe]: love

[biehner_]: for

[roscoe]: the dedication

[biehner_]: for everyone that

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: can't see it just think of danny
hetley or jason speza from like the five

[biehner_]: o six senators post game

[roscoe]: this guy's just like it's headphones in
just going to town at i love it

[roscoe]: man i love that i love that
you're here from there it's great

[Darty Brodeur]: i've had this t shirt since great
eleven all right so

[roscoe]: yes

[Darty Brodeur]: you know it's it's old school it's
old school pump tonight

[biehner_]: yeah

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: your nipples are telling us that

[roscoe]: uh uh

[Darty Brodeur]: m

[roscoe]: oh

[Darty Brodeur]: banner

[roscoe]: buddy

[biehner_]: yeah

[roscoe]: okay

[biehner_]: you're a dad now you're not supposed
to be working out cut that ship out

[roscoe]: so because it's reverse retro night i
want to start with questions sound good we're

[roscoe]: gonna start at the end reverse style
so with the very first question here from

[roscoe]: t m l fan and van has
going marty or the leaps good southey you

[roscoe]: can start this one how's it going
leaves good

[roscoe]: yeah and i mean i know there's
a bit of a tongue in cheek to

[roscoe]: the question because there's it's not been
the most supported leafs regular season campaign so

[roscoe]: far as far as the the fans
and media goes it's been a lot of

[roscoe]: it's been a roller coaster eighteen games
so as simple as a four word question

[roscoe]: are the leaves good can be it's
there's some depth to it i think he

[roscoe]: knows that next one from aran at
aronlea nineteen seventy eight thanks arn this is

[roscoe]: also from vi blue and white um
well this is so okay it's two partner

[roscoe]: feel blue and white will curfoot ever
score again and aron following up and will

[roscoe]: they realize cur foot is not the
player they need in the top six so

[roscoe]: frustrating so i mean okay we saw
him make the pass to nowhere land to

[roscoe]: not open j t the other night
and now we see him blow his i

[roscoe]: don't know twelfth it feels like break
away of this son already it's not that

[roscoe]: many but it feels like it nor

[biehner_]: so he's like mice

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: to point o or like

[roscoe]: h

[biehner_]: michel grabner

[roscoe]: no kidding

[biehner_]: eighty five point o like

[roscoe]: always one of these a

[biehner_]: every single season the leafs ways have
this kind of player and i wish i

[biehner_]: would have wrote it down someone on
twitter was talking about maybe the

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: leaf's picking up capinit because oh you
know you could use his offense in the

[biehner_]: bottom six he did this exact same
thing when he was on the leaves he

[biehner_]: had chance

[roscoe]: why are

[biehner_]: after

[roscoe]: leaf

[biehner_]: chance

[roscoe]: fans so

[biehner_]: and he

[roscoe]: obsessed

[biehner_]: could never

[roscoe]: with bringing

[biehner_]: bury

[roscoe]: back guys why why is it always
let's bring back luke she let's bring back

[roscoe]: jack campbell let's bring back his barry

[Darty Brodeur]: yeah

[roscoe]: capitan sorry

[Darty Brodeur]: and

[roscoe]: go

[Darty Brodeur]: wasn't

[roscoe]: on people

[Darty Brodeur]: appening

[roscoe]: are just obsessed

[Darty Brodeur]: only good when nelander was gone was
that not like the scoop there

[biehner_]: capitan

[roscoe]: there can be

[biehner_]: was

[roscoe]: only one

[biehner_]: right like he

[roscoe]: yah

[biehner_]: never really lived up to his potential

[roscoe]: yah

[biehner_]: and he's still not hence why he's
being scratched a whole bunch i don't know

[biehner_]: like like my swiss army knife comment
from a couple episodes ago

[roscoe]: it was great

[biehner_]: i don't i'm not too sure if

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: as much as i love the guy
and i do see his use i don't

[biehner_]: know do you bentham do you give
him a new

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: shooting coach do give a matthew stick
for a game like

[roscoe]: yeah that's why i mean like it
looks like it always looks like good things

[roscoe]: it's just the finish is never there
and i know he's not supposed to be

[roscoe]: a goal score but like i mean
he doesn't exactly have the assist either this

[roscoe]: is his longest goal dry it's not
a thirteen games or something he hasn't scored

[roscoe]: in or fourteen this is nuts

[roscoe]: yeah in

[Darty Brodeur]: but besides what he's giving

[roscoe]: yeah

[Darty Brodeur]: you guys on the ah who fantasy
i know he's probably screwing a bunch f

[Darty Brodeur]: people over if you have carfootbut besides
that is he not do you think he's

[Darty Brodeur]: not giving something on the bench like
in the locker room like even on i

[Darty Brodeur]: used like i feel like this guy
this guy's got to be pretty solid but

[Darty Brodeur]: he doesn't doesn't see if there's too
much wrong with him besides the fact he's

[Darty Brodeur]: not putting too many points up

[roscoe]: yeah and i mean it shows by
the fact that keith gives him all these

[roscoe]: opportunities whether it's you know power play
time on p p two or penalty kill

[roscoe]: or he's now floating between either the
first second or third line they at least

[roscoe]: trust him to play everywhere it's just
it's back to be interesting you know you

[roscoe]: can be pretty good at a lot
of things but is that really what we

[roscoe]: need out of that slope right now
or do we need somebody like nick robertson

[roscoe]: to not be in the press box

[roscoe]: next question this is from mike d
thanks mike mike d underscore three nine two

[roscoe]: should the leaves make these reverse retros
their main jersey are going to let banner

[roscoe]: take this one because he's the jersey
guy on no so that you can

[biehner_]: oh

[roscoe]: jump in here too

[biehner_]: so i will i will admit it

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: when they came out i think i
was the first

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: one on this plot to say i
did not like them they are starting to

[biehner_]: grow on me just a little bit
i thought they were i don't know if

[biehner_]: it's the photographer they have because i
thought the same thing last reverse retro when

[biehner_]: the photographer when they posted pictures of
it i thought man that's a god awful

[biehner_]: jersey and that jersey grew on me
too

[roscoe]: ah

[biehner_]: i don't know if it's maybe because
this is one of the most complete games

[biehner_]: they've played all year so i just
kind of it doesn't hurt

[roscoe]: it's

[biehner_]: or

[roscoe]: easy to associate the jersey with how
they play

[biehner_]: or

[roscoe]: my

[biehner_]: or if anybody saw my tweet matt
murray given off the grant

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: for early nineties

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: vibes something about the white

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: shoulders just every time he'd go down
the butterfly to make i saved like jesus

[biehner_]: christ i'm watching fare here

[roscoe]: yeah i like the crest on it
honestly better than

[Darty Brodeur]: oh

[roscoe]: the last reverse retro but so what
do you think

[roscoe]: yeah oh

[roscoe]: yeah

[roscoe]: and dirty i'll let you finish this
one that i'm gonna throw the next question

[Darty Brodeur]: i

[roscoe]: to you

[Darty Brodeur]: think

[roscoe]: too

[Darty Brodeur]: that is what was missing from

[roscoe]: that a good

[Darty Brodeur]: our takes when that came out because
i noticed that i felt like you guys

[Darty Brodeur]: didn't

[roscoe]: oh

[Darty Brodeur]: was it wasn't as prominent in the
photography

[roscoe]: ah

[Darty Brodeur]: was that stripe on the top and
i love it as soon as i saw

[Darty Brodeur]: it i was like you guys i
don't know what you guys are

[roscoe]: oh

[Darty Brodeur]: talking about go back to the episode
i'm telling you now i was all

[roscoe]: yes

[Darty Brodeur]: though this jersey

[roscoe]: uh

[Darty Brodeur]: and because of that white stripe in
fact i wish it was more shoulder patty

[Darty Brodeur]: like folk i wish they did a
little bit

[roscoe]: yeah

[Darty Brodeur]: more with it but still i think
it really pops and that was missing from

[Darty Brodeur]: the initial photography and now they set
on the ice fucking beauty

[roscoe]: white stripes baby um so i'm going
to give this next question back to you

[roscoe]: dirty so before i go to mike's
question what do you think is a good

[roscoe]: chant for matt murray

[Darty Brodeur]: that's a tough one because like i
was really going for

[roscoe]: oh

[Darty Brodeur]: the know the

[roscoe]: oh

[Darty Brodeur]: like with samsonov i really like

[roscoe]: oh

[Darty Brodeur]: the now classic like ricola like so
nvright

[roscoe]: that's a good one

[Darty Brodeur]: but with mary it's like i don't
know maybe shouting

[roscoe]: yeah

[Darty Brodeur]: out like like murdog or something like

[roscoe]: yeah

[Darty Brodeur]: murdo

[roscoe]: oh

[Darty Brodeur]: don't know this

[roscoe]: so so mike was here's mike's question
how good was matt murray again tonight seriously

[roscoe]: needed fans of scotia bank to cheer
me for him every day of the guy

[roscoe]: earned it he has he was positionally
sound calm and composed all night long give

[roscoe]: it to this guy mat murray i
mean yes buffalo savers aren't a seven game

[roscoe]: losing streak but here's a lot of
guys that can score on this team and

[roscoe]: i know i say that a lot
but did well the net front challenge is

[roscoe]: dirty

[Darty Brodeur]: like what's his nickname to actually murdogbease
honestly i feel like his nickname should be

[Darty Brodeur]: bones because like he's so fucking skinny
like

[roscoe]: bones

[Darty Brodeur]: like for for a big tall like
tandy not really that big once you get

[Darty Brodeur]: all the equipment off of them i
feel like

[roscoe]: yeah

[Darty Brodeur]: a lot of tents are like that
too like it's the it's the football pads

[Darty Brodeur]: they're wearing that make them look big
but

[roscoe]: yeah

[Darty Brodeur]: yeah murray especially when he was a
little under the weather last season that guy's

[Darty Brodeur]: guys skeleton all

[roscoe]: oh

[Darty Brodeur]: right like it's incredible how much area
he covers

[roscoe]: oh yeah so southey this question is
from scott on discord with murray playing well

[roscoe]: and what we've seen of sammy are
you confident enough with the tend situation for

[roscoe]: the rest of the season

[roscoe]: ye

[roscoe]: ah oh man oh

[roscoe]: okay yeah oh yeah yeah i mean
it all comes down to injuries right but

[roscoe]: at the same time last year jack
cambell and peter marassig were not healthy either

[roscoe]: and i think if you're going a
give me two goals that are shaky on

[roscoe]: health i would take murray and samson
of over mraszikand campbell any day dar go

[roscoe]: ahead

[Darty Brodeur]: ber

[roscoe]: oh

[Darty Brodeur]: you have something there look you're gonna
say something i don't want to jump ahead

[roscoe]: sorry i can't see

[biehner_]: no

[roscoe]: him right now

[biehner_]: you can't see me

[roscoe]: no i can't oh sorry i can't
see satybener if you want to jump in

[biehner_]: yeah sorry i was just going to
say like marty and i talked about it

[biehner_]: before the season we had a an
episode of his podcast there that we broke

[biehner_]: down the leif's goal tender depth in
the system and we we both felt you

[biehner_]: know cautiously optimistic and fairly confident

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: that this was going to be a
pretty good pretty good tan coming into the

[biehner_]: season

[Darty Brodeur]: and do you guys think do you
gys think that

[roscoe]: darton

[Darty Brodeur]: the positivity that we're seeing when we
look at this tantum as opposed to the

[Darty Brodeur]: previous tantum i would like to believe
that because there's less of a dark cloud

[Darty Brodeur]: over these guys like murray and sam
son of were not hearing much about you

[Darty Brodeur]: know the mental health the outside world

[roscoe]: oh

[Darty Brodeur]: getting to the inside world of them
right i feel like with these guys yeah

[Darty Brodeur]: they got their injury problems but it's
not like they're

[roscoe]: m

[Darty Brodeur]: like morai who literally his

[roscoe]: yes

[Darty Brodeur]: groin is made of glass you know
like i feel like with these guys gordstelick

[Darty Brodeur]: said it best last night just fucking
run him all right with matt murray like

[Darty Brodeur]: let's

[roscoe]: my

[Darty Brodeur]: see let's let's see what he got
and if he breaks then fuck

[roscoe]: my

[Darty Brodeur]: we got to get new tend but
we

[roscoe]: yes

[Darty Brodeur]: got to see see it now before
later

[roscoe]: yeah i think the difference last year
was the leaves were scoring a ton everybody

[roscoe]: was on the ball this year we're
seeing a bit of you know some people

[roscoe]: are off to slow start some people
are on some nights and we'll get to

[roscoe]: that with another question here also shout
out to lucas who basically asked the same

[roscoe]: question i'm gonna lump it in but
the difference last year was they were scoring

[roscoe]: a ton and also letting in a
ton of goals but still managing to win

[roscoe]: which sounds like the edmonton oilers this
year surprise surprise weird coincidence there i don't

[roscoe]: know but now you're seeing that gold
tending hasn't really and why they're losing it's

[roscoe]: been other problems so i think that's
distracted the story line away from you know

[roscoe]: what's wrong with with matt murray like
way it was last year with jack campbell

[roscoe]: where it was always a question of
his emotion s in the locker room and

[roscoe]: you know because he was the one
that wasn't on when everybody else was so

[roscoe]: uh next one kally cartel this will
go to you beiner are we okay with

[roscoe]: matthew's lack of scoring because we're winning
and still getting points

[biehner_]: absolutely it's as much as he's our
our goal score and we've been you know

[biehner_]: all leaf fans have been pimping his
tires all summer saying he's the best goal

[biehner_]: score in the league not only is
he still

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: getting chances he's setting up his teammates
for chances and his defensive game is still

[biehner_]: there if he was just kind of
coasting you know going through emotions shift after

[biehner_]: shift i'd be worried like is there
a lingering injury is he

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: is something going on behind the scenes
that's making him not happy there um but

[biehner_]: i don't see any of that like
he's going he's battling

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: in every shift he's out there he's
laying a hit or he's digging a puck

[biehner_]: out and stealing it from someone to
go ther way for a chance is just

[biehner_]: you score sixty and you're going to
be covered how many times has someone scored

[biehner_]: sixty goals in the past ten years

[roscoe]: m

[biehner_]: twice if i remember correctly i've taught
my head him and stammer

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: like

[roscoe]: and

[biehner_]: it you're going

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: to be covered

[roscoe]: yeah and honestly if the only problem
is shooting percentage then he's fine

[biehner_]: yep

[roscoe]: to kind of sum that up it's
like if the only problem is he's just

[roscoe]: not getting them in the back of
the net yet that will correct itself like

[roscoe]: it's obviously below what it should be
that will average out so did you at

[roscoe]: a jump in there

[roscoe]: no and i mean he's still finding
his way under the score sheet he's been

[roscoe]: getting assist almost every night that he's
not scoring so it's not like he's not

[roscoe]: getting the points right that wraps up
our questions thanks everybody for sending those in

[roscoe]: on discord and twitter if you're not
already on our discord is just shy of

[roscoe]: a hundred people were at ninety one
we just passed ninety today that's so fun

[roscoe]: thanks everyone for joining uh okay onto
the game first period this was probably the

[roscoe]: leaf's best first period of the season
so far would anyone want to argue me

[roscoe]: on that i don't think it necessarily
started like it's not like they were playing

[roscoe]: hot at the gate but as far
as yeah oh cool um we had a

[roscoe]: couple interesting goals i mean we'll talk
about the first one jontveras ben you want

[roscoe]: to take this i'm just pulling something
else up here

[biehner_]: we're talking about the tip

[roscoe]: yeah from marner oh yeah it was
the power play goal sorry i'm just pulling

[roscoe]: up a couple of things here from
the game let's be shift

[biehner_]: no no

[roscoe]: over if it sounds like i'm off
i was cleaning this room today and i

[roscoe]: left the window open and i forgot
to close it and it is freezing cold

[biehner_]: right

[roscoe]: in here so i'm like

[biehner_]: oh

[roscoe]: shaking as i'm talking

[biehner_]: it's just

[roscoe]: ah

[biehner_]: like you're at the rank come on
man you should be in prime form

[roscoe]: oh i know fact i didn't dress
for this

[Darty Brodeur]: may we did do a music music
break at

[roscoe]: yeah

[Darty Brodeur]: some

[biehner_]: yeah

[Darty Brodeur]: point just

[biehner_]: so

[Darty Brodeur]: to let this guy have a not
freeze you know turn to ice cole mill

[Darty Brodeur]: pod

[biehner_]: yeah

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: i think

[roscoe]: i know

[biehner_]: i think the wrong persons on the
work out machine right there

[roscoe]: uh uh

[biehner_]: yeah

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: so basically just like

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: what was it ten twelve seconds

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: into the power play um mole gets
the puck at the point slides it over

[biehner_]: to marner who's up on the half
wall who just released howitzer and j t

[biehner_]: just gets a tip of it out
front to beat up l best name in

[biehner_]: hockey ukapekalukann

[roscoe]: i don't even

[biehner_]: the leaf

[roscoe]: try to tweet spell it i just
said p

[biehner_]: oh yeah the leaves go up one
now

[roscoe]: yeah i can never remember how many
keys are in uco and pea is it

[roscoe]: two in both

[biehner_]: i believe so

[roscoe]: yeah well save me a bit

[biehner_]: yep

[roscoe]: yeah he's been getting the looks like
we said he's just like you know to

[roscoe]: ben's point everybody's expecting that shot so
they got to find more creative voices scoring

[roscoe]: the power play and that was the
problem though the first like twelve games was

[roscoe]: you know let's get it to matthews
oh there's three guys watching him now what

[roscoe]: now they have a now what what's
it

[biehner_]: ah

[roscoe]: exactly i

[biehner_]: yeah

[roscoe]: think they all just want to see
him get to sixty again

[biehner_]: oh yeah who doesn't he's he's shooting
his lowest shooting percentage of his career he's

[biehner_]: at ten percent right now and this
previous lows was in his rookie season at

[biehner_]: fourteen point three

[roscoe]: m

[biehner_]: so it's

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: it's going to come back around he
normally hovers around the fifteen even up to

[biehner_]: he said a couple of seasons above
eighteen per cent

[roscoe]: oh and the other the other good
pass he had was where he fed bunting

[roscoe]: for that break away that he almost
scored on so i mean

[biehner_]: yep

[roscoe]: like he's he's really just finding new
ways to be effective on the ice and

[roscoe]: i mean using the body which will
get to when he took that penalty that

[roscoe]: was absolutely bullshit

[Darty Brodeur]: and look if he saves some of
it for the first round we finally get

[Darty Brodeur]: past her yo're gonna complain if he's
only got forty goals like come on

[roscoe]: no not at all um so second
one kelly yarn croke with what i could

[roscoe]: only call i forget who on twitter
said this was basically a jason's betsogoal just

[roscoe]: right in front bullet to the open
side of the net there finally kalyoncrok with

[roscoe]: his fourth of the season i'm glad
this guy this was less than five minutes

[roscoe]: after the power play goal so leaves

[Darty Brodeur]: that

[roscoe]: were sti

[Darty Brodeur]: goal

[roscoe]: buzzing

[Darty Brodeur]: legal or

[roscoe]: there

[biehner_]: m

[Darty Brodeur]: something that

[roscoe]: i'm

[Darty Brodeur]: you put

[roscoe]: just

[Darty Brodeur]: the sirens on there johnny

[biehner_]: yeah

[roscoe]: uh h was that that wasn't me
whose was that that's you it's gonna say

[roscoe]: you're i'm not the one downtown yeah
so not much to say on the one

[roscoe]: other than san dene finally showing his
offensive side of his game and why you

[roscoe]: know there is a

[biehner_]: yah

[roscoe]: ceiling that people are talking about there
that he's yet to reach i mean i

[roscoe]: think he was good on this one
feeding it over to eval and then angvall

[roscoe]: was the best play of this but
the swedish line man

[biehner_]: the best play of this being the
not getting called for too many men

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: oh

[Darty Brodeur]: ah

[roscoe]: i mean like look was it really

[biehner_]: oh oh

[roscoe]: or was it one that they just
should have called by the book like did

[roscoe]: it really

[biehner_]: so

[roscoe]: affect the play

[biehner_]: it didn't affect the play but with
the

[roscoe]: ye

[biehner_]: way that this penalty specifically gets

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: called against the leaves you would think
it was just an automatic whistle blown like

[biehner_]: i'm surprised the guys didn't just stop

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: skating and one of them go to
the box like

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: if the puck wasn't there then yeah
okay it's not a penalty if angvallis coming

[biehner_]: out and trying to get into the
play even though zare

[roscoe]: eh

[biehner_]: isn't off the ice because he's not
in the play but the fact that he

[biehner_]: gets the pluck right away even though

[roscoe]: it's

[biehner_]: he's

[roscoe]: questionable

[biehner_]: even those are at the bench he
within that zone you know rats normally gave

[biehner_]: a little bit of his own right
right at the bench there the fact that

[biehner_]: he touched the puck technically by the
book that should have been a call against

[biehner_]: the leaves

[Darty Brodeur]: and was

[roscoe]: especially

[Darty Brodeur]: that not the

[roscoe]: against

[Darty Brodeur]: bane of

[roscoe]: the

[Darty Brodeur]: our

[roscoe]: leaves

[biehner_]: yeah

[Darty Brodeur]: existence last year it seemed like

[biehner_]: ah

[Darty Brodeur]: every game it was too much man
right like what's our counter at this year

[Darty Brodeur]: is that our first one of the
year

[roscoe]: a ah

[biehner_]: it's basically been since babcock was fired
i don't know if babcock had some some

[biehner_]: you know interesting photos of some of
the rafts and his black was black mailing

[biehner_]: limit not sharing it

[roscoe]: ah

[biehner_]: something

[roscoe]: little

[biehner_]: like

[roscoe]: handshake deal going on

[biehner_]: right yeah

[roscoe]: yeah yet i think i've only seen
one maybe two called this year and at

[roscoe]: this point it seems like they were
at four or five so it was like

[roscoe]: thirteen in a span of two months
they had last year but the reason kind

[roscoe]: of rushing through these is because i
really want to talk about the mark dane

[roscoe]: goal here for

[biehner_]: yeah

[roscoe]: more than a few reasons right some
people have never seen a goal scored this

[roscoe]: way we actually got to talk about
one last year if i'm not mistaken where

[roscoe]: this happened didn't

[biehner_]: fun fact

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: the one we talked about last year
when this happened i have that goal puck

[biehner_]: in my display cabinet in my basement

[roscoe]: wait what

[biehner_]: i ended up getting that puck

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: the tovaro's goal

[roscoe]: okay so

[biehner_]: if it's the one i'm thinking

[roscoe]: right

[biehner_]: of

[roscoe]: was to varas yeah

[biehner_]: oh

[roscoe]: yeah it's coming back to me i
was like i've definitely seen this before and

[roscoe]: i felt like it was the first
time i'd seen it and now it's twice

[roscoe]: so if you knock your own net
off well the play is still going and

[roscoe]: there's an imminent scoring through spot crosses
the line it's a goal and they knew

[roscoe]: that everyone pointed to it on the
ice said that's a goal so mitch marner

[roscoe]: comes in and does what some people
have called questionable but trying to make believes

[roscoe]: twitter proceeded to pull up two old
clips of marner doing this exact same thing

[roscoe]: before where he comes out of the
breakaway pulls somebody to the side who's behind

[roscoe]: him and then gives it back to
the person following him who then has a

[roscoe]: wide open net so kind of tricking
the defender and the goal

[biehner_]: it

[roscoe]: you

[biehner_]: was

[roscoe]: did

[biehner_]: actually

[roscoe]: it in junior

[biehner_]: a really

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: sorry it was actually a really clever
play to do at that point because especially

[biehner_]: shorthanded you know the sabers players aren't
going to be expecting that there's going to

[biehner_]: be a second player coming in behind

[roscoe]: of course

[biehner_]: so they're just they're just going to
stop it and if i remember correctly i

[biehner_]: think there was the wasn't the curve
foot break away just before that

[roscoe]: i think so

[biehner_]: was

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: it

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: and

[roscoe]: it was

[biehner_]: like

[roscoe]: the bunting one

[biehner_]: bunting okay so up l is really
good down low so

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: once marner had realized ship i'm in
that low why not drop it back because

[biehner_]: he knows someone like go is going
to be there whether or not go was

[biehner_]: yelling for it or not who knows
but and then

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: it's a very very rare rule you
almost never see it

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: but we have seen it a

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: handful of times over the past couple
of years the leafs themselves i think this

[biehner_]: is only the second or

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: third time and only the second time
it's gone for us that i can remember

[biehner_]: ever um but yeah as long as
it still crosses the plane that would have

[biehner_]: technically been a goal so in vision
virtual

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: goal post as long as it crosses
there within basically

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: all within same play is how they
normally try to word it so imminent score

[biehner_]: and chance same play however you want
to say it even if the nets off

[roscoe]: m

[biehner_]: in the corner it's a goal

[roscoe]: oh but you can't put your foot
up against an imaginary goal post says kevin

[roscoe]: b x which

[biehner_]: oh

[roscoe]: i say don't knock your own net
off then

[biehner_]: x also said that it was six
minutes later so i don't know if i

[biehner_]: don't know if he's taken too many

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: pucks to the head or

[roscoe]: oh

[roscoe]: i don't

[biehner_]: no

[roscoe]: even think

[biehner_]: one

[roscoe]: you need

[biehner_]: did

[roscoe]: to have the pack off now

[biehner_]: no you don't as long as long
as ye as long as it was the

[biehner_]: pot like the defending

[roscoe]: ah

[biehner_]: team that knocked it off clearly without
any any input from the attacking team

[roscoe]: a

[biehner_]: and as long as it's within the
same course of play like you couldn't pass

[biehner_]: it back to the blue line or
anything like that right um and then furthermore

[biehner_]: to be a if you slow the
video down and you watch it

[roscoe]: uh

[biehner_]: up l's pad comes from inside the
crease out if the post was there it

[biehner_]: would have prevented him from making this
ape

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: it literally

[roscoe]: that's

[biehner_]: would

[roscoe]: hilarious

[Darty Brodeur]: and be is such a neck homer

[biehner_]: oh

[Darty Brodeur]: like that guy like sometimes he said
breath of fresh air

[roscoe]: oh

[Darty Brodeur]: but most times he's sour milk man
like i can't like him sometimes what is

[Darty Brodeur]: it

[roscoe]: okay

[Darty Brodeur]: a lot of a lot of these
guys like like like bucking crag simpson too

[Darty Brodeur]: and i

[biehner_]: yeah

[Darty Brodeur]: can't remember the other guy's name but
i'm i'm losing

[roscoe]: oh

[Darty Brodeur]: it right now probably o no xperosbut
some of these guys these former players like

[Darty Brodeur]: it's just they really start to get
on my nerves

[biehner_]: yah

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: ah

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: rudy

[roscoe]: kelly

[biehner_]: glen healey kiprios

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: there's two

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: former

[roscoe]: kipper

[biehner_]: there's two former players that i

[roscoe]: ah

[biehner_]: have any respect for that do this
and i sound like an asshole when i

[biehner_]: say that it's ray ferraro and is
mike johnson those guys are absolutely incredible

[roscoe]: yep

[biehner_]: and they'll

[roscoe]: they

[biehner_]: come right

[roscoe]: are

[biehner_]: out and say it if they

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: have a home or take or something
like that just b x has been so

[biehner_]: hitting miss lately i think he's trying
too hard to be the new grapes

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: um m i really loved hearing butter
hill kind of put her foot down and

[biehner_]: kind of give it to him like
no this is the right call like this

[biehner_]: is the way

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: it should be it was it

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: was really nice

[roscoe]: i was not a i was not
a fan of her take on edler not

[roscoe]: being what was it she basically said
that like the one on high man was

[roscoe]: on purpose but this one like could
have been by accident so he shouldn't be

[roscoe]: suspended and that's why i'm like no
no no no he stood up he knew

[roscoe]: exactly what i was doing and it's
on connor mc david like i said the

[roscoe]: last episode the person who brings the
majority of the income to this game you

[roscoe]: don't let this happen to him and
go unchecked come on

[roscoe]: may

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: this is legitimately the third time he's
done this like it's it's a history it's

[biehner_]: a pattern

[roscoe]: history needing that's it

[Darty Brodeur]: and riddle me this fella

[roscoe]: already go

[Darty Brodeur]: is

[roscoe]: ahead

[biehner_]: oh

[Darty Brodeur]: crag anderson still attending for the sabers

[roscoe]: he was on the bench

[Darty Brodeur]: was

[roscoe]: and

[Darty Brodeur]: that

[roscoe]: a

[Darty Brodeur]: not the

[roscoe]: nice

[Darty Brodeur]: stupidest

[roscoe]: sabers baseball

[Darty Brodeur]: freaking

[roscoe]: cap

[Darty Brodeur]: decision for that team like do they
not under and how to beat the leafs

[Darty Brodeur]: these fucking gomes like put that guy
has had the least number like almost every

[biehner_]: yeah

[Darty Brodeur]: single game like they just wanted

[biehner_]: oh

[Darty Brodeur]: to give us the game or something

[roscoe]: well it's fifty fifty do you put
crag anderson in or do you put the

[roscoe]: guy in firs first game of the
season either way if you're playing leaves jug

[roscoe]: those could both go in your favor

[biehner_]: interestingly enough crag anderson single handedly

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: makes the sabers not the youngest team
in the league

[roscoe]: yeah only behind new jersey

[biehner_]: yep

[roscoe]: he must pull their average age up
by like a solid few years

[biehner_]: oh he's got because he's like forty
two

[roscoe]: that's insane oh but honestly back to
the goal i can't believe go was able

[roscoe]: to put this one in because like
somebody said first star goes to the overhead

[roscoe]: cam like it was

[biehner_]: the

[roscoe]: actually

[biehner_]: funnier

[roscoe]: one

[biehner_]: part

[roscoe]: a twitter

[biehner_]: was he didn't even really shoot it
he just kind of hit it as he

[biehner_]: tried with swinging to wak at it

[roscoe]: yep

[biehner_]: if you re watch it it's not
really a shot

[roscoe]: but honestly it found its way in
and crossed the line and they knew it

[roscoe]: immediately they all sort of point to
it they're like that's in that's a goal

[roscoe]: and i'm glad they challenged this and
got it like you said doesn't usually go

[roscoe]: in favor and to come out of
the first period

[biehner_]: okay

[roscoe]: yeah and to come

[biehner_]: m

[roscoe]: out of the first three nothing like
that's like i said the best performance on

[roscoe]: the score sheet the leaves have

[biehner_]: oh

[roscoe]: had in the first period so far
so that's

[biehner_]: yeah

[roscoe]: got to feel good especially

[biehner_]: not

[roscoe]: you know they're on a bit of
a streak right now at least of getting

[roscoe]: points i know they lost an overtime
but yeah

[biehner_]: not to mention i don't know if
anybody's ever if anybody's even looked into

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: this when was the last time the
leaf scored power play a shorthanded and an

[biehner_]: even strength goal all in the same

[Darty Brodeur]: oh

[biehner_]: period

[roscoe]: right that's like

[Darty Brodeur]: the tryfecta

[roscoe]: the gordyhowhatric of goals

[biehner_]: yeah

[roscoe]: yeah that is pretty cool um now
or anything on the first perform move on

[roscoe]: here good performance all around obviously from
mary not letting anything in but honestly the

[roscoe]: leaves had so many less shots i
wanna where's the numbers here first i can't

[roscoe]: see it period by period but leaves
wrote shot thirty four to twenty three and

[roscoe]: i know it was like under twenty
for the leaps for the majority they scored

[roscoe]: four goals on sixteen shots i think

[biehner_]: yeah

[roscoe]: brutal okay so alex talked ten minutes
into the second opens the scoring

[biehner_]: oh

[roscoe]: for the buffalo sabers finally with a
little tip in front of the net i

[roscoe]: should i have benched

[Darty Brodeur]: yeah

[roscoe]: him tonight and fantasy is the only
person i know right but i put him

[roscoe]: in over i put new lander in
so you know

[biehner_]: yeah

[roscoe]: kind of one of the other anyway

[biehner_]: tuck needs to go buy a power
play ticket after that because he had no

[biehner_]: business tipping that in and i don't
even think he was really even freakingtrying

[roscoe]: no he wasn't paying attention it just
went off is stick

[biehner_]: oh

[roscoe]: he was looking the other way he
was trying to get away from i think

[roscoe]: it was go

[Darty Brodeur]: owen power

[roscoe]: and

[Darty Brodeur]: play ticket

[roscoe]: yeah yeah

[biehner_]: oh uh h ye

[roscoe]: oh man a oh you mean hawke
night in canada favorite star of the night

[roscoe]: page thomson

[roscoe]: did you know that he's really tall
and he can score a lot of goals

[roscoe]: and he might be better than both
connor mac david and austin matthew's combined

[roscoe]: oh i missed that

[biehner_]: yeah i did

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: i i wasn't as nervous as if
it would have been the first game he

[biehner_]: was back because like i said like
he had that what looked like almost a

[biehner_]: tweak in that leg in the game
against pittsburgh and then he had a lot

[biehner_]: of big time saves in the new
jersey game so i think it's i really

[biehner_]: don't think that they pulled a freddy
and rushed him back i think he honestly

[biehner_]: took his time and he's he's back
on a per cent so i'm not as

[biehner_]: as concerned because a little bump like
that especially with all that padding i know

[biehner_]: goles will complain but to fall forward
like the correct way to fall down like

[biehner_]: that you're you're fine like it's it's
easier on the goal is than it is

[biehner_]: on an out player

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: with the shin pads out players have
right

[Darty Brodeur]: better than doing the splits like that
one guy the other night who had to

[biehner_]: oh

[Darty Brodeur]: get stretched off

[roscoe]: no man it wasn't even a split
there's just a weird twist back like oh

[roscoe]: i don't even want think about that
but i totally forgot that this was the

[roscoe]: power play where austin matthews got called
for an illegal check to the head where

[roscoe]: he hit someone's shoulder with his shoulder
while they had the puck i don't understi

[roscoe]: don't understand someone said because it was
a blind side because he came in behind

[roscoe]: that's a penalty every time but i'm
sorry this was not check

[biehner_]: oh

[roscoe]: to the head like

[biehner_]: as

[roscoe]: is

[biehner_]: pretty

[roscoe]: the exact same thing we saw the
other night where it's like you're just getting

[roscoe]: called for being bigger than the other
person and hitting them hard

[biehner_]: that's the it's the mat mat cook
call like that is essentially

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: the exact

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: same style of hit that knocked marks
of art out of the league right and

[biehner_]: nine

[roscoe]: ah

[biehner_]: times out of ten you see a
hit like that and it's purely head contact

[biehner_]: so that's why that verbage is there
as illegal hit

[Darty Brodeur]: oh

[biehner_]: to the head

[roscoe]: okay fair

[biehner_]: they can't call it

[roscoe]: it

[biehner_]: no

[roscoe]: he didn't

[biehner_]: it didn't

[roscoe]: it his head

[biehner_]: hit his head it was shoulder to
shoulder but it was the blind side terminology

[biehner_]: of it because that's

[roscoe]: okay

[biehner_]: that's that's part of that rule right

[roscoe]: and oh oh

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: hm

[Darty Brodeur]: oh oh

[roscoe]: like the only argument i guess like
from what we've recently learned about c d

[roscoe]: is there's like little those there's hits
like that that don't necessarily go to the

[roscoe]: head where you know you're you're hit
pretty hard like he came out on like

[roscoe]: a train you know

[biehner_]: yeah

[roscoe]: it's yeah but that's also playing hockey
so it's when it comes to rule book

[roscoe]: it's kind of a i get what
you're saying and i understand

[Darty Brodeur]: guy

[roscoe]: that

[Darty Brodeur]: thirty

[roscoe]: cavard

[Darty Brodeur]: four

[roscoe]: was

[Darty Brodeur]: is a

[roscoe]: kind

[Darty Brodeur]: bad

[roscoe]: of knocked

[Darty Brodeur]: boy

[roscoe]: out

[Darty Brodeur]: now

[roscoe]: for this but

[Darty Brodeur]: bad to the bone

[roscoe]: it's just tough coal

[Darty Brodeur]: bad

[roscoe]: oh but a pair

[roscoe]: it's what everybody wanted to see but
every time you hit somebody he gets called

[roscoe]: for it he's too big yeah bye
bye bye back okay also rasmus sanden took

[roscoe]: a hooking call on this one sanden
has not been

[Darty Brodeur]: fall

[roscoe]: on his

[Darty Brodeur]: from

[roscoe]: game

[Darty Brodeur]: grace

[roscoe]: why have we not benched him and
put victor met mente back in

[biehner_]: i was wondering that myself but

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: i don't know if keith is just
ridiculously loyal or what's going on because look

[biehner_]: at last year we were asking the
same thing about justin hall all year last

[biehner_]: year exact

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: same

[roscoe]: but they

[biehner_]: thing

[roscoe]: actually benched they benched justin hall a
couple times last year and he played better

[roscoe]: when he came back

[biehner_]: but

[roscoe]: he was

[biehner_]: the

[roscoe]: a healthy scratch

[biehner_]: yeah but a couple of times doesn't
warrant the thirty eight times that it should

[biehner_]: have been

[roscoe]: no but it was for more than
a few games like they had him scratched

[roscoe]: for like it was three or four
and then they brought him back and he

[roscoe]: played better and then they did that
again later in the season like they really

[roscoe]: showed like hey we're not happy with
this but for some reason sanden who took

[roscoe]: them for a run for months is
just given a pass on this and i

[roscoe]: don't really get it and they went
out and got all this defensive depth

[Darty Brodeur]: well

[roscoe]: they

[Darty Brodeur]: justine

[roscoe]: just letting

[Darty Brodeur]: halton

[roscoe]: him

[Darty Brodeur]: also

[roscoe]: play

[Darty Brodeur]: hold

[roscoe]: like

[Darty Brodeur]: out

[roscoe]: ship

[Darty Brodeur]: for the king's ransom of one point
five million right so

[roscoe]: well

[biehner_]: ye

[roscoe]: that's what i mean it's like the
fact that he held out on them for

[roscoe]: so long i don't know why they're
they're giving him a pass like they should

[roscoe]: be

[biehner_]: i

[roscoe]: harder on him than justin hall who
they've brought up within their system you know

[roscoe]: for years now

[biehner_]: i think if you if you look
at it from more of an organizational standpoint

[biehner_]: and yes i i galaxy brain all
this kind of ship all the time

[roscoe]: galaxy been

[Darty Brodeur]: linda

[biehner_]: um m um like sam dene is
the type of defense man they want like

[biehner_]: the fact that they went and got
georgie ben that's out of the ordinary that's

[biehner_]: almost like a dubious move trying to
shut people on twitter up really like

[roscoe]: no and look at work

[biehner_]: yeah like the what justin hall is
when he's good like when he's on what

[biehner_]: riley is with sanding is lilegrand that's
the style of defense man they want because

[biehner_]: that's the type of game they want
to play

[roscoe]: like

[biehner_]: so

[roscoe]: jacob check and i know

[biehner_]: even even if you look at the
pizza that sanding served up the other day

[biehner_]: for crosbie's backhander you listen to keith's
comments afterwards

[roscoe]: it was when it was one of
those gross pittsburgh pizas where the cheeses

[biehner_]: yeah

[roscoe]: cold on top and they don't actually
like melt it it's a thing look it

[roscoe]: up

[biehner_]: i think they just use like naco
cheese they don't actually melt real cheese on

[biehner_]: it do they

[roscoe]: no they cook the bread in the
sauce and the oven and then they put

[roscoe]: cold toppings and cold cheese on top

[Darty Brodeur]: a little

[roscoe]: after

[Darty Brodeur]: penguin

[roscoe]: it's

[Darty Brodeur]: finfogra

[roscoe]: disgusting

[biehner_]: that would explain why oh

[roscoe]: only a little penguin frog

[biehner_]: that would explain why everyone

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: in pittsburgh looks miserable all the time

[roscoe]: yeah they don't know how to make
a pizza college

[biehner_]: um

[roscoe]: kids know how to make

[biehner_]: m

[roscoe]: pizza

[biehner_]: but like even even after that pizza
that he

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: served up in pittsburgh keith defended them
he basically said like all our guys know

[biehner_]: how to make that move or something
along those lines like or know how to

[biehner_]: make that play because that's basically what
they've been instructed to do they've been instructed

[biehner_]: to do these high high low outlet
passes because they want the guys get better

[biehner_]: two on one's three on

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: one's breakaway stuff like that it just
it bounced on him or he wiped on

[biehner_]: it it's going to happen it's just
it happened to him where you know

[roscoe]: ye

[biehner_]: everything has been happening to him happening
to him over the last couple of weeks

[biehner_]: and before i sound like i'm ridiculously
contradicting myself here i think it's

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: different from what we were seeing with
hall last year because san den goes and

[biehner_]: he makes one of these mistakes and
he doesn't fall on his ass and let

[biehner_]: someone come like let the whole

[roscoe]: uh

[biehner_]: team come in he'll get back up
and he'll try to run whoever he just

[biehner_]: gave the puck to throw the boards
like hel try to make up for it

[biehner_]: he's just maybe trying a little too
hard

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: so i agree he needs to sit
for a game or two just to kind

[biehner_]: of maybe get his head back into
it a little bit and i was very

[biehner_]: very impressed with what we saw from
meta and even from philip crawl like you

[biehner_]: look at some of the players that
we've had come up and play for us

[biehner_]: small

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: small sample sizes i'm not saying these
guys are gonna win the norse they've been

[biehner_]: good

[roscoe]: yeah and time on nice leader after
the second period was justin hall at sixteen

[roscoe]: minutes and twenty

[Darty Brodeur]: so

[roscoe]: four

[Darty Brodeur]: what

[roscoe]: seconds

[Darty Brodeur]: you're saying

[roscoe]: thanks

[Darty Brodeur]: banner

[roscoe]: mike

[Darty Brodeur]: is

[roscoe]: for that

[Darty Brodeur]: sanden

[roscoe]: one already go ahead

[Darty Brodeur]: he gets knocked down but he gets
back up again you're never goin

[roscoe]: uh ah

[Darty Brodeur]: he's a little tub thumper

[roscoe]: oh little tub thumper um so just
on the note about time on ice because

[roscoe]: i didn't mention the the first period
guess who led the leafs in time on

[roscoe]: ice in the first period

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: i'm just going to take a complete
and utter stab here and say willy

[Darty Brodeur]: oh

[roscoe]: oh it was mark giordano with eight
minutes and fourteen seconds in the first period

[roscoe]: holy

[biehner_]: not a boy

[roscoe]: shit

[Darty Brodeur]: his style has been on

[roscoe]: yeah

[Darty Brodeur]: point

[roscoe]: adapoiis

[Darty Brodeur]: as well he's an absolute

[roscoe]: right

[Darty Brodeur]: mobster out there like like marner and
matthews they're looking like

[roscoe]: m

[Darty Brodeur]: you now little vogal

[roscoe]: m

[Darty Brodeur]: g q but dane he's he's still
got that the god other things going on

[Darty Brodeur]: for him

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: yes oh

[roscoe]: h oh oh

[roscoe]: oh yeah uh then move just to
finish off the second here we had willy

[roscoe]: kneelander so i for the second time
this year the leaves have gotten a power

[roscoe]: play and as it goes to commercial
i'm like big willy p p goal coming

[roscoe]: up and he did it again last
time i called it and this time manifested

[roscoe]: that to existence so you're welcome location
for the big willie p p g h

[roscoe]: and then he got another one to
start the third off so man william neelander

[roscoe]: is just no matter where we put
him it's like they're scrambling the line up

[roscoe]: every night how do we get matthews
on how do we get you know to

[roscoe]: far as his four hundred they gotta
keep figuring things out willie's like gonna put

[roscoe]: me wherever you want i'm cool i'll
score wherever i'm fine yeah i wish more

[roscoe]: people had that edit oh

[biehner_]: m

[biehner_]: what

[biehner_]: well i think some of the thing
with him is like look it through the

[biehner_]: history basically since since our parents were
kids like there's always been someone on the

[biehner_]: team for the fans to love

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: that even if they got four goals
a year they gave everything they left

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: all their blood all their sweat out
on the ice

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: and despite what numbers he puts up
willie doesn't do that

[roscoe]: no

[biehner_]: willis willie's just there he has no
panic threshold whatsoever which lie in a good

[biehner_]: way it's like watching cable in his
prime back on

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: d he doesn't panic like he absolutely
does not but on the same

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: same token

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: when he should panic

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: or should put it up a gear
he doesn't visibly look like he is

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: i think because he has the

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: talent because he has the skating ability
it doesn't look like he's

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: trying as hard as he actually is
i think sometimes

[roscoe]: but i mean when it came to
the playoffs he was always the best one

[Darty Brodeur]: and

[roscoe]: seems

[Darty Brodeur]: that's the point i was

[roscoe]: year

[Darty Brodeur]: going

[roscoe]: after

[Darty Brodeur]: to make

[roscoe]: year

[Darty Brodeur]: is people just seem to forget

[roscoe]: dirty

[Darty Brodeur]: that

[roscoe]: what's

[Darty Brodeur]: this

[roscoe]: up

[Darty Brodeur]: guy was leading our team in in
points up until like last year for the

[Darty Brodeur]: play office right so

[roscoe]: oh

[Darty Brodeur]: correct me if i'm wrong but at
least he was one of the better ones

[Darty Brodeur]: ah and in start contrast to marner
and matthews and also i get it this

[Darty Brodeur]: guy doesn't look like darcy fucking tucker
all right but yes

[roscoe]: oh

[Darty Brodeur]: he sometimes floats but when he's out
there and he's

[roscoe]: yes

[Darty Brodeur]: absolutely

[roscoe]: oh

[Darty Brodeur]: banging that guy like there's there's no
stopping look at tonight

[roscoe]: oh

[roscoe]: shout out to dart who is going
on like an hour here on this elyptical

[roscoe]: oh yeah and honestly it's when it
comes to what the leaves downfall like if

[roscoe]: you're going to if you're gonna take
anything that they did wrong tonight out of

[roscoe]: it's hard to out of you know
a big wind like this but um because

[roscoe]: we always have to comment on something
they're still beating themselves like they gave up

[roscoe]: the only two goals where power play
goals they had six penalties tonight like there's

[roscoe]: a reason justin hall led the team
with twenty four minutes tonight because of power

[roscoe]: penalty kills so that's the only thing
they got to tighten up i mean obviously

[roscoe]: the cave the sabers in tonight but
ukapecalucaan was rough like i said they scored

[roscoe]: four on sixteen shots so not that
he had a chance on some of them

[roscoe]: but still that's just the only thing
you got a clean up but some rough

[roscoe]: penalties here and there i know some
of these were bullshit calls but you know

[roscoe]: you gotta six is too many even
when there are bad ones

[roscoe]: yeah show casey middle stad manages to
get one with five minutes left on the

[roscoe]: power play because again like i said
you just

[biehner_]: yeah

[roscoe]: couldn't have finished this one out five
one could you

[Darty Brodeur]: let

[roscoe]: like

[Darty Brodeur]: that up the

[roscoe]: so annoying

[biehner_]: but that

[biehner_]: that's like a typical golly has played
two or three games in the last calendar

[biehner_]: year type goal against though because he
had

[roscoe]: i don't

[biehner_]: it

[roscoe]: even put that on murray though like

[biehner_]: no

[roscoe]: it's

[biehner_]: no but

[roscoe]: it's the fact that they were on
the penalty kill in the first place

[biehner_]: but at the same time he did
have it like i'm not

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: i'm not trying to criticize and i
was just saying like that's that's the type

[biehner_]: of thing when you're not you're not
at top form right cause you give him

[biehner_]: thirty games into the season where he's

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: played thirty games

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: and he knows that

[Darty Brodeur]: and

[biehner_]: puck's

[Darty Brodeur]: fell

[biehner_]: there

[Darty Brodeur]: did

[biehner_]: and

[Darty Brodeur]: he

[biehner_]: he's

[Darty Brodeur]: not end

[biehner_]: not

[Darty Brodeur]: off

[biehner_]: moving

[Darty Brodeur]: with a nine four one tonight like
please

[roscoe]: my

[roscoe]: oh yeah

[biehner_]: oh yeah yeah i'm not i'm

[roscoe]: yes

[biehner_]: not trying to pin anything negative on
him he's played

[Darty Brodeur]: yeah

[biehner_]: great since he came back in and
even tonight he's kind of maybe because you

[biehner_]: could see a little

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: bit in the pittsburgh and then you
could see it a little bit more against

[biehner_]: new jersey they were trying to pinpoint
high glove on them that was his that

[biehner_]: was his problem in the playoffs with
pittsburgh even though they won the cup that

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: was his yeah that was the high
glove and there was even a couple of

[biehner_]: times tonight where he made a glove
and he gave it a little how

[roscoe]: yes

[biehner_]: dy do to kind of show no
no i got it

[roscoe]: yeah yeah and just on the penalties
real quick before we move on like j

[roscoe]: t is good for one a game
it seems just because the ref seem to

[roscoe]: make one up for tavars every night
but i don't expect he was to also

[roscoe]: get one that's kind of like one
or the other they tried to take one

[roscoe]: of those two guys out for two
minutes every game but it's the fact that

[roscoe]: i know we were talking about how
well he was playing willy picked up too

[roscoe]: and liligrenand sanden each got one too
so it's just that up guys come

[Darty Brodeur]: time

[roscoe]: on

[Darty Brodeur]: on

[roscoe]: come on yah ilioililabush thou was nowhere
tonight i was excited

[Darty Brodeur]: yeah

[roscoe]: to see him again

[Darty Brodeur]: bosh

[biehner_]: he was on all fours in the
crease for one of willy's goals

[roscoe]: yeah that was him oh what about
riley she and celebrating a saved by matt

[roscoe]: murray that he thought winning

[biehner_]: the guy is

[roscoe]: ah

[biehner_]: just ridiculous

[roscoe]: so most people like i mean mike
vituated he's like whoever number eight was and

[roscoe]: i'm like googling like whose number eight
on buffalo it's okay so there was a

[roscoe]: shot from the point and murray made
glove say and his hands just went up

[roscoe]: then he kind of did like a
he tried to turn it into like he's

[roscoe]: oh

[Darty Brodeur]: what happened

[roscoe]: wait what happened like why do i
have my hands up right now i'm going

[roscoe]: to turn this into something else so
good three stars the night william newland over

[roscoe]: two goals john to varas with a
goal

[Darty Brodeur]: i

[roscoe]: and to assist and matt murray with
thirty two saves leave taking all three

[Darty Brodeur]: really

[roscoe]: stars

[Darty Brodeur]: just

[roscoe]: and a

[Darty Brodeur]: can't

[roscoe]: five

[Darty Brodeur]: seem

[roscoe]: to

[Darty Brodeur]: to lock

[roscoe]: win

[Darty Brodeur]: down that hot trick

[roscoe]: grabbing the

[Darty Brodeur]: anny

[roscoe]: two point how do you do no
no no not going to happen yeah ah

[roscoe]: welve game point streak so the longest
running in the n h l still and

[roscoe]: i think the longest n leaf longest
leaf since like the forties

[biehner_]: yeah laurence car

[Darty Brodeur]: see willy

[roscoe]: unreal

[Darty Brodeur]: doesn't get

[roscoe]: man

[Darty Brodeur]: hat trix because you

[roscoe]: go

[Darty Brodeur]: can't

[roscoe]: ahead

[Darty Brodeur]: put

[roscoe]: dirty

[Darty Brodeur]: a hat on those beautiful gold locks
all right

[roscoe]: oh oh man but no honestly like
the fact that william nelander and and mitchmaner

[roscoe]: have been the whipping boys of toronto
media like look they're the two that are

[roscoe]: performing the best right now i know
we're not trying to slight austin matthews and

[roscoe]: yes john devar is having an amazing
start to a season i'm just saying like

[roscoe]: a twelve game point streak and just
neander being consistent from the get go with

[roscoe]: only a handful of off nights like
these guys are great and we have them

[roscoe]: for a while like

[biehner_]: marner at twenty two points j t
at twenty one matthews at twenty

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: and willie at twenty

[roscoe]: unreal man unreal how quickly that picked
up after a slow start

[Darty Brodeur]: and yet bums all of them right

[roscoe]: always november man what's november

[roscoe]: ums man i know m

[roscoe]: okay so what do we think you
want to do don't you want to do

[roscoe]: pretty good since we did the three
stories went to give it to somebody else

[roscoe]: yeah i gotta where's my thing here
it is

[roscoe]: m

[roscoe]: all right so who was pretty good
tonight we'll start with mrelyptical

[Darty Brodeur]: um so i always showed out willy
style

[roscoe]: he man

[Darty Brodeur]: so

[roscoe]: himself

[Darty Brodeur]: i'm not goin

[roscoe]: dardybritter

[Darty Brodeur]: a do that tonight i'm going o
say because we should try to pick someone

[Darty Brodeur]: that's

[roscoe]: ah

[Darty Brodeur]: it on the bottom with a call
an croke right

[roscoe]: at

[Darty Brodeur]: glad you got his

[roscoe]: not a star

[Darty Brodeur]: ally ryyncrocris

[roscoe]: nice killer crock

[roscoe]: uh uh love it killer crock taking
that one bean or what about you

[biehner_]: i'm going to have to go with
megan again i know he didn't really like

[biehner_]: he didn't get anything on the score
sheet and

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: actually his ice time was a little
lower than i though too i felt like

[biehner_]: he was a little bit of a
pest out there again getting underneath people and

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: causing some havoc

[roscoe]: yeah he had two shots three hits
a block in only nine minutes he had

[roscoe]: the least on the whole team so
the fact that i mean he's got basically

[biehner_]: yeah

[roscoe]: the same and more effective numbers and
other people i mean he's got better numbers

[roscoe]: than zacasthanris and alex cur foot on
the night who played seventeen eighteen minutes so

[roscoe]: let's take let's put that in a
perspective

[biehner_]: he makes sure that you know he's
out there when he's out there

[roscoe]: yeah nobody else played less than ten
minutes on the whole team and he played

[roscoe]: nine seventeen hundred percent on the face
off dot like come on i think what

[roscoe]: about you yeah not a boy

[roscoe]: yeah and i agree but i'm going
to give mine to and i'm on agree

[roscoe]: with mike the fanatic on this one
because he's finally had a good game paring

[roscoe]: val did not look like garbage tonight
i'm not saying he was fantastic but he

[roscoe]: has just been so brutal to watch
out there and he's finally like he made

[roscoe]: some good as he was using the
body a bit he was digging in the

[roscoe]: corners

[Darty Brodeur]: yeah

[roscoe]: good pass on the

[Darty Brodeur]: yeah

[roscoe]: whatever goal it was was it yarn
croaks or yeah yaroncroks yeah so i mean

[Darty Brodeur]: give

[roscoe]: he

[Darty Brodeur]: us a little

[roscoe]: had a good

[Darty Brodeur]: growl

[roscoe]: game and he

[Darty Brodeur]: john

[roscoe]: has not

[Darty Brodeur]: give us a

[roscoe]: had

[Darty Brodeur]: little growl

[roscoe]: any of those yet so i got
to give it to him recognized

[roscoe]: oh god okay we got a couple
of things we'll touch on before we had

[roscoe]: out here banner there was an interesting
thing that happened

[biehner_]: oh

[roscoe]: with which league was this in i'll
let you take this

[biehner_]: ah

[roscoe]: one i wanted you to share it
last night or last episode

[biehner_]: so the n c double a um
michigan wolverines they've had a lot of turn

[biehner_]: over last couple of years you know
you had owen power baneers um why am

[biehner_]: i drawing a blank on the kid
with columbus um anyways they've had a great

[biehner_]: young team a lot of turn over
as you as you've been starting to get

[biehner_]: with n c double as n h
starts picking some of their players a lot

[biehner_]: more and the wolverines actually have run
into a bunch of injuries and illness over

[biehner_]: the past couple weeks the point that
on thursday night they had to dress their

[biehner_]: third string goal tender at left wing

[roscoe]: yeah do you have his numbers like
how did he do

[biehner_]: honest to god i bet you any
money he only played about ten seconds because

[biehner_]: i've checked three different sites for box
scores and i don't even see any ice

[biehner_]: time whatsoever

[roscoe]: i would

[biehner_]: i know

[roscoe]: love to see that show up on
his hawk d b like a lead prospects

[roscoe]: that he played left wing for a
game

[biehner_]: right like i know he i was
reading a couple of tweets i was doing

[biehner_]: some digging to try to see if
i could find

[roscoe]: m

[biehner_]: anything and at one point he was
in the penalty box so the fact that

[biehner_]: he's not on score sheet i'm assuming
it was some sort of bench minor and

[biehner_]: everybody was commenting

[roscoe]: m

[biehner_]: they've never seen someone skate that fast
from a penley box over to a bench

[biehner_]: before

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: little little humor there

[roscoe]: they just kept him on the bench
and then oh we took a bench minor

[roscoe]: yeah put it put him in put
him in get get him out of here

[biehner_]: pretty much yeah

[roscoe]: oh god m and the other thing
i just gotta i know you were like

[roscoe]: i don't know if i want to
call them out but i want to call

[roscoe]: them out because this is some shady
publicity stunt b s well so bene got

[roscoe]: a ere you can start it off
and then i'll roast the tim horton jersey

[roscoe]: thing

[biehner_]: so i came across this

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: i don't know

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: if i want to say company probably
some dude in his mom's basement um m

[biehner_]: doing like the give away is we've
all seen them you know a hundred retwets

[biehner_]: two undrretweets whatever and you get a
shirt or a hat or whatever and they're

[biehner_]: doing it for jersey's so i had
message them saying you know how many retweets

[biehner_]: for new leaf reversed retro done up
in honor tim horton because i'm that kind

[biehner_]: of person so super simple number seven
on the back no name bar just leave

[biehner_]: it and they came back said yeah
four hundred and fifty retweets in forty eight

[biehner_]: hours which

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: if you

[roscoe]: ye

[biehner_]: if you look at my social media
profiles it's pretty steep i don't have a

[biehner_]: massive presence on social media

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: but you know i figured out what
the ell will gie it a shot never

[biehner_]: having participated

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: in anything like this before i wasn't
sure are you allowed to tag people

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: in the initial post what you know
what's going on so i had specifically asked

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: are there any rules i need to
know about and i was told no anything

[biehner_]: goes good luck

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: and anyways we got off to a
hot start like you guys you're all awesome

[biehner_]: and yeah long story short they ended
up ended up not following through and

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: they dished out multiple times to multiple
people within the leaf fan community that same

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: large number four hundred four fifty

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: five hundred retweets

[Darty Brodeur]: so what if a hundred of those
followers

[biehner_]: within

[Darty Brodeur]: and retweets

[biehner_]: the same

[roscoe]: so

[biehner_]: time

[roscoe]: here's

[Darty Brodeur]: might

[roscoe]: the

[Darty Brodeur]: have

[biehner_]: frame

[roscoe]: thing

[Darty Brodeur]: been from the sultan of bruni

[biehner_]: cold

[Darty Brodeur]: and no longer

[biehner_]: kay

[Darty Brodeur]: exist at this present time

[roscoe]: oh

[Darty Brodeur]: wins a win right

[roscoe]: uh ah well see this is where
i

[biehner_]: ah

[roscoe]: kind of wanted to jump in because
what i think is ridiculous is that this

[roscoe]: company didn't restrict how many of these
they were going to do like so obviously

[roscoe]: they had no intention of a bunch
of people being able to complete this goal

[roscoe]: and they just wanted the publicity because
if you give out within the same community

[roscoe]: because obviously there was bunch of leaves
fans on twitter that we're using this this

[roscoe]: contest try to get out of jersey
like if you give it out to that

[roscoe]: many people people are going to start
only supporting their friends and not just reach

[roscoe]: reading like oh the one person in
our circle that is going for this like

[roscoe]: great let's all help this person get
to jersey no it's there's five people that

[roscoe]: are all doing the same thing and
everyone's going okay this is either a scamp

[roscoe]: or i'm just not going to do
this like this is dumb so all this

[roscoe]: jersey flock did was get their name
out everywhere and give out no jerseys so

[roscoe]: boo

[Darty Brodeur]: fraud

[roscoe]: shame on you it's not cool yeah
anything goes meaning you know a couple hey

[roscoe]: you on but twitter knowing there were
bots on it

[Darty Brodeur]: anything

[roscoe]: okay anything

[Darty Brodeur]: goes

[roscoe]: you do on twitter that can happen

[roscoe]: in lone's twitter anything goes oh right

[Darty Brodeur]: yes

[roscoe]: anybody want to throw something in here
before we close out for the night

[biehner_]: so i just wanted to give another
quick quick shout out to connor bernard

[roscoe]: i

[biehner_]: of the regina pats

[roscoe]: oh what now

[biehner_]: so he has he is currently

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: on a twenty one game

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: point streak

[roscoe]: okay

[biehner_]: at nineteen

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: goals twenty eight s s for forty
seven points

[roscoe]: m m oh my god

[biehner_]: he's got he's got a hundred and
thirty five shots in those games as well

[biehner_]: and

[roscoe]: how

[biehner_]: and thirty penalty minutes

[roscoe]: oh interesting what's he doing

[biehner_]: so probably just getting back at people
that are trying to stop him they're trying

[biehner_]: to bobby or him and take his
knees out

[Darty Brodeur]: now i had something but i

[roscoe]: love

[Darty Brodeur]: lost

[roscoe]: it

[Darty Brodeur]: it and it was probably in a

[roscoe]: dirty

[Darty Brodeur]: similar

[roscoe]: what's

[Darty Brodeur]: vein

[roscoe]: up

[Darty Brodeur]: to whatever bean was doing with jersey
flock so i'm going to hold it in

[Darty Brodeur]: just because you know i put some
bad energy

[roscoe]: oh

[Darty Brodeur]: out there

[biehner_]: uh yeah

[roscoe]: all right so next leaf game is
on monday against the iles it's still at

[roscoe]: home what do we think in here
islanders i mean nelson and lee off to

[roscoe]: a good art baral not so much
but otherwise they're they're pretty boring team to

[roscoe]: play against they can lock things down
like we saw against the devils

[Darty Brodeur]: pajama

[roscoe]: the other night

[Darty Brodeur]: boy

[roscoe]: weird how lou just leaves that behind
with teams

[biehner_]: yeah

[roscoe]: oh ah

[roscoe]: oh yeah

[roscoe]: oh yeah yeah it's a good thing
to do when it's working and you're winning

[roscoe]: it's another when you know we've seen
him do it and it doesn't yeah yeah

[roscoe]: i mean i don't know we've seen
him quite a bit of line juggling the

[roscoe]: last couple of games more to try
to generate something and not to try to

[roscoe]: keep things fresh i think this is
the first that he's done it while they're

[roscoe]: they're winning

[biehner_]: so completely unrelated to the islanders and
that but do you think the devils get

[biehner_]: to thirteen against the islanders

[Darty Brodeur]: they're

[biehner_]: against the oislers

[Darty Brodeur]: they're

[biehner_]: and

[Darty Brodeur]: on

[biehner_]: then

[Darty Brodeur]: a

[biehner_]: we

[Darty Brodeur]: freak in heat

[roscoe]: the

[Darty Brodeur]: or

[roscoe]: oil

[Darty Brodeur]: been

[roscoe]: in

[Darty Brodeur]: er all right so you know

[biehner_]: like that the

[Darty Brodeur]: don't

[biehner_]: islanders

[Darty Brodeur]: doubt that don't doubt the devil's

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: i just i just took the late
eighties and early early seventies and early eighties

[biehner_]: and mixed them into one team

[roscoe]: where the devil's

[biehner_]: because

[roscoe]: sports

[biehner_]: they

[roscoe]: a team

[biehner_]: they beat the senators tonight to go
to twelve straight

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: then the leafs play

[roscoe]: wait

[biehner_]: em

[roscoe]: wow

[biehner_]: let's

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: play

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: him next

[roscoe]: the leaves

[biehner_]: week

[roscoe]: play

[biehner_]: again

[roscoe]: them again on wednesday

[biehner_]: would be fourteen straight

[roscoe]: okay you got to stop them at
fourteen

[Darty Brodeur]: at least not

[roscoe]: and

[Darty Brodeur]: better

[roscoe]: come

[Darty Brodeur]: on their second

[roscoe]: on

[Darty Brodeur]: looks though like did we

[biehner_]: got to

[Darty Brodeur]: lose the second game vegas or i
can't remember any more damn it

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: yeah we lost both

[roscoe]: yeah but they beat they beat the
penguins the second time though they lost them

[roscoe]: on the friday and they beat them
on tuesday so

[biehner_]: m

[roscoe]: you know i mean the devils i
think those guys can't be like that forever

[roscoe]: can they

[biehner_]: no

[Darty Brodeur]: isn't there

[biehner_]: there's

[roscoe]: that's the

[biehner_]: no

[Darty Brodeur]: dandy

[biehner_]: way

[roscoe]: only

[Darty Brodeur]: situation

[roscoe]: thing i'm counting

[Darty Brodeur]: a little precarious

[roscoe]: on is like

[Darty Brodeur]: right

[roscoe]: their

[Darty Brodeur]: now

[roscoe]: kids this is going to fade out
eventually but

[roscoe]: they got vite and blackwood blackwood's hurt
vitextollyne that's all i know yeah but okay

[roscoe]: so now that you guys are all
here i brought this up with step last

[roscoe]: episode but how bad is washington at
assessing their goal situation for letting vite and

[roscoe]: samson of just leave essentially like they
didn't qualify samsonov for like two million or

[roscoe]: whatever it was and they moved on
from vitekvanachec

[Darty Brodeur]: oh

[roscoe]: and now both of them are fantastic
and darcy kemper is exactly what darcy kemper

[roscoe]: always is

[biehner_]: i'm i have no inside information

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: on this whatsoever but i'm kind of
wondering if maybe this this wasn't the management

[roscoe]: m

[biehner_]: group if this was the players like
ovibaxstrum oh she everybody

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: going going and saying hey look these
guys haven't done it for us the past

[biehner_]: couple of years because they had vantacek
and samsona for a little

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: while there

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: haven't done it we're on our last
legs you guys need to do something

[roscoe]: yeah that's fair they are getting

[biehner_]: m

[roscoe]: to the end of her the run
need

[Darty Brodeur]: so

[roscoe]: somebody

[Darty Brodeur]: i'm

[roscoe]: that's

[Darty Brodeur]: just

[roscoe]: seasoned and why not go for the

[Darty Brodeur]: go

[roscoe]: person

[Darty Brodeur]: conspiracy

[roscoe]: that just won the

[Darty Brodeur]: theory

[roscoe]: cup

[Darty Brodeur]: here but

[roscoe]: dart

[Darty Brodeur]: you know i don't think ov has
changed his perspective on i'm glad in

[roscoe]: yeah

[Darty Brodeur]: routine all right and these guys that
left are both slow no m i mistaken

[Darty Brodeur]: right that could also have been impactful
because some of these guys don't agree and

[Darty Brodeur]: some of the guys do right

[roscoe]: yes

[Darty Brodeur]: that could be something

[biehner_]: oh

[Darty Brodeur]: yeah

[biehner_]: sam

[Darty Brodeur]: as

[biehner_]: sonabs

[Darty Brodeur]: m saying not every

[biehner_]: russian

[Darty Brodeur]: russian in the league like has the
same opinion as

[roscoe]: well

[Darty Brodeur]: ovirightand i can

[roscoe]: i mean

[Darty Brodeur]: get

[roscoe]: that could still

[Darty Brodeur]: contentious

[roscoe]: be

[biehner_]: oh

[Darty Brodeur]: in the locker room i don't know

[roscoe]: i

[Darty Brodeur]: just

[roscoe]: no i mean it's not a

[roscoe]: yeah exactly i don't think it's that
far fetched especially with the current situation actually

[roscoe]: here we've got you know a couple
o minutes we can talk about this the

[roscoe]: world cup of oki speaking of she
not happening again so are we just going

[roscoe]: to forget about hawke over being like
an international competition or something over again because

[roscoe]: we're getting to the point where people
aren't excited about because they don't have anything

[roscoe]: to go off of like the golden
goal there's people that weren't born

[biehner_]: yeah

[roscoe]: when that happened that are like able
to watch hawke and form memories now that's

[roscoe]: how long ago that happened

[roscoe]: yeah yeah

[roscoe]: oh well look the thing that the
most casual fans of hawke watch and i

[roscoe]: know it's because it's the time of
year when everybody's home and everything but the

[roscoe]: world juniors everybody gets beiandeering for team
canada and it's just any time it's a

[roscoe]: national team people get behind it and
that's something that the professional level has just

[roscoe]: completely lacked over the last decade and
it's going to be hard to get people

[Darty Brodeur]: and

[roscoe]: excite

[Darty Brodeur]: if

[roscoe]: about

[Darty Brodeur]: you

[roscoe]: it

[Darty Brodeur]: look

[roscoe]: again

[Darty Brodeur]: at like

[roscoe]: because

[Darty Brodeur]: the

[roscoe]: there's

[Darty Brodeur]: history

[roscoe]: no steam

[Darty Brodeur]: of basketball

[roscoe]: behind it

[Darty Brodeur]: in the olympic right

[roscoe]: ard

[Darty Brodeur]: you

[roscoe]: go

[Darty Brodeur]: got

[roscoe]: ahead

[Darty Brodeur]: the dream teams you got th redeem
team you need we need something similar to

[Darty Brodeur]: happen with hawke all right because otherwise
like he how important it was say in

[Darty Brodeur]: the nineties for the dream team with
magic johnson and michael jordan and then he

[Darty Brodeur]: got you know copy briant and la
bron james right like those those names i

[Darty Brodeur]: say them you guys might not be
fan a basketball but you'll know who i'm

[Darty Brodeur]: talking about right we need to do
the same thing with hockey because if garry

[Darty Brodeur]: batman screws this up that's going to
be huge huge oversite huge stupidity from the

[Darty Brodeur]: national hockey league m

[roscoe]: and the players association too they can't
be left out of it because they're also

[roscoe]: not helping the situation nor

[biehner_]: honest

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: to god i think it's probably more
of the

[roscoe]: ah

[biehner_]: pa than anything

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: because think about it this way there
has never been a time in the history

[biehner_]: of hawke the united states has had
a stronger team if you go like if

[biehner_]: we if i give everyone here a
project let's go and build our teams take

[biehner_]: your main countries and let's put together
our teams and tell to say who you

[biehner_]: think would win i can pretty much
guarantee honest to god i think the states

[biehner_]: would win not only do

[roscoe]: if

[biehner_]: you

[roscoe]: you were

[biehner_]: have

[roscoe]: doing all time teams and building a
team u s a most of your players

[roscoe]: would probably be currently playing

[biehner_]: yeah absolutely you'd have a handful of
guy like if it's an all time

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: team you'd have a handful that played
back when like you know brian leach was

[biehner_]: incredible brett hall was incredible

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: yeah but like now

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: matt you can roll out matthews and

[roscoe]: no

[biehner_]: michael as your first two centers

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: come on you have patrick kane as

[roscoe]: yes

[biehner_]: a lower level winner because he doesn't
have to be the one and only anymore

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: now adam fox charlie macavoy jacob tube
on defense like

[roscoe]: perfect

[biehner_]: thomson like you name it that kuchuck
brothers

[roscoe]: the chocks

[biehner_]: as much as i hate matthew

[roscoe]: jenks

[biehner_]: like spencer

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: night in that

[Darty Brodeur]: i

[roscoe]: brock besser clayton keller alex debrinket je
gensell

[Darty Brodeur]: but they

[roscoe]: kyle

[Darty Brodeur]: got no

[roscoe]: conner

[Darty Brodeur]: tents

[roscoe]: chris crater

[Darty Brodeur]: they

[roscoe]: brock

[Darty Brodeur]: got no

[roscoe]: nelson

[Darty Brodeur]: tends

[roscoe]: j

[Darty Brodeur]: and what

[roscoe]: t

[Darty Brodeur]: does

[roscoe]: miller

[Darty Brodeur]: russia have they've got some

[biehner_]: teams

[Darty Brodeur]: of the best

[biehner_]: loaded

[Darty Brodeur]: gold tenders in the world and i
feel like canada is pretty neutral like canada

[Darty Brodeur]: could wax most teams but

[roscoe]: ah

[Darty Brodeur]: those small things could be the difference
makers now be really fun to watch to

[Darty Brodeur]: see how that plays out

[roscoe]: oh

[roscoe]: what

[biehner_]: connor hallabuck spencer

[roscoe]: conner

[Darty Brodeur]: not this

[biehner_]: night

[roscoe]: hello

[Darty Brodeur]: season

[biehner_]: john

[roscoe]: buck

[biehner_]: gibson

[roscoe]: j gotanger

[biehner_]: an jury okay

[roscoe]: i would take otonjerand hellaback

[biehner_]: i just like as much as i
hate that man if there was something that

[biehner_]: would make the the united states look
good

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: he would be all for it

[roscoe]: trivial question of all the active american
goals in the n h l who has

[roscoe]: the best safe percentage

[biehner_]: just because you're asking a trivial question
i'm going to say crag anderson

[roscoe]: oh

[Darty Brodeur]: spencer night

[biehner_]: no no no no no

[Darty Brodeur]: just

[biehner_]: no

[Darty Brodeur]: because

[biehner_]: no

[Darty Brodeur]: i was just

[biehner_]: it's

[Darty Brodeur]: be

[biehner_]: quick

[Darty Brodeur]: was talking ship

[roscoe]: nope

[biehner_]: got

[roscoe]: no

[biehner_]: yeah

[roscoe]: guys hello buck is second by point
zero zero two to jeremy swagman

[Darty Brodeur]: so

[roscoe]: with a

[Darty Brodeur]: azy

[roscoe]: nine eighteen his fifty six games in
the n h l

[biehner_]: yeah definitely would

[roscoe]: obviously

[biehner_]: not have

[roscoe]: hello

[biehner_]: got

[roscoe]: buck

[biehner_]: i definitely would not have got sweaming
but i was thinking more long lines of

[biehner_]: goals that have played a lot more
because i didn't even remember that he was

[biehner_]: american that's why i thought

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: quick

[roscoe]: yeah seaman hellabokotanger smith and stollars are
your your top five american active and chill

[roscoe]: goles by safe percentage so i mean
look nobody for nine twenty but they're all

[roscoe]: good like and just back to the
point like i think the states

[biehner_]: yeah

[roscoe]: would by all means want to present
their team on the world stage so the

[roscoe]: fact that like that's garry betman's okay
let me let me frame this garry batman

[roscoe]: works for the owners the owners get
money when there's more interest in the teams

[roscoe]: those teams are viewed mostly by americans
because there's you know majority american teams so

[roscoe]: if you put said american players on
the grand stage of an international tournament you

[roscoe]: have people from all over the world
watching your fantastic american players and then they

[roscoe]: watch your american teams and then the
game gets a ton more money in from

[roscoe]: advertisers because now you have fans of
you know austin matthews and jack igel from

[roscoe]: wherever in south korea or in england
or in scotland or in australia or wherever

[roscoe]: it is and you can now sell
a bunch more advertisings it's just like it

[roscoe]: grows it for the n h l
so the fact that to bean's point like

[roscoe]: it's more on the p a defending
the safety of their players and not missing

[roscoe]: time in the h l and their
pay checks than it is batman because he

[Darty Brodeur]: yeah

[roscoe]: is somebody that wants

[Darty Brodeur]: yeah

[roscoe]: money

[roscoe]: am i wrong being and that's what
your point was

[biehner_]: no no you're you're you're not wrong
at all like you you can the team

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: would just be ridiculously stacked it would
prove that you know if all these home

[biehner_]: grown us talent players can go and
destroy canada in a world which they potentially

[biehner_]: could

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: especially if you look at the canadian
goal tending right now which has taken a

[biehner_]: ship for the last

[roscoe]: a

[biehner_]: handful of years

[roscoe]: m

[biehner_]: it would be the perfect opportunity for
him to say no

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: arizona needs to stay there because without
arizona we wouldn't have matthews and because like

[biehner_]: that'd be his exact line you know
it

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: so i don't think it's as much
him as we would maybe want it to

[biehner_]: be but to touch on a little
bit more and this

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: is my last point on here and
then i'll let

[roscoe]: it

[biehner_]: you guys talk a bit more

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: gives a funk about russia i get
it they have good players they have some

[biehner_]: of the best players in the league
so what do a tournament without him the

[biehner_]: world stage for hockey right now is
so good and the talent pool is so

[biehner_]: deep you can put together a competitive
tournament that's not going to be canada destroying

[biehner_]: everybody without russia

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: look at every olympic there's always a
latian team that gives every canadian

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: fan

[roscoe]: kay

[biehner_]: a heart attack every tournament

[biehner_]: oh

[roscoe]: okay just because i brought it up
with the states um do you guys want

[roscoe]: to take a stab at who the
best active canadian goals in the league are

[roscoe]: see

[biehner_]: look

[roscoe]: if you can name

[biehner_]: imson

[roscoe]: logan thompson is number two with a
nine eight team and basically number one because

[roscoe]: number one nobody's ever going to guess
this is dillon wells who played twenty minutes

[roscoe]: for the chicago black hawks and has
a nine twenty three

[biehner_]: okay

[roscoe]: he led

[biehner_]: that

[roscoe]: in one

[biehner_]: doesn't

[roscoe]: goal

[biehner_]: count

[roscoe]: that's what i mean so games played
here logan thomson and stewart skinner both at

[roscoe]: a nine eighteen at thirty two and
twenty two games played if we're looking at

[roscoe]: like actual n h l experience here
darcy kemper camp talbot and tristan jarry so

[Darty Brodeur]: aback what happened

[roscoe]: yaks guys yokes huge yokes

[biehner_]: i'd be going

[roscoe]: we got spencer martin spencer martin mark
andre flurry james rhymer matt murray jordan bennington

[roscoe]: jakelen brian elliot aden hill carter shart
blackwood wedgewood but am bo ingram yeah there's

[roscoe]: nothing good here guys

[biehner_]: i'd be going thompson and hard if
it was me

[roscoe]: yeah i would

[roscoe]: carter shart yeah i would go probably
oh oh baby logan thompson with

[roscoe]: either murray or yeah buddy i'm all
in

[biehner_]: step

[roscoe]: you going to take

[biehner_]: step

[roscoe]: better

[biehner_]: is

[roscoe]: again

[biehner_]: like step is like pulling her hair
out hearing you commit to murray that bad

[Darty Brodeur]: but what about beer do you say
benner

[roscoe]: she'd be putting jack campbell on team
us so i don't really care

[biehner_]: uh

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: uh

[roscoe]: yeah because i mean he has the
experience at least at the team canada level

[roscoe]: does he not

[biehner_]: there's no way i'm putting bennington on
that team

[roscoe]: i just want to see it's yeah
okay but this is my point guys if

[roscoe]: this is where we're at like logan
thompson was our

[Darty Brodeur]: blackwood

[roscoe]: number one

[Darty Brodeur]: not

[roscoe]: pick

[Darty Brodeur]: canadian

[roscoe]: to go and

[Darty Brodeur]: i

[roscoe]: net

[Darty Brodeur]: feel

[roscoe]: that

[Darty Brodeur]: like

[roscoe]: dudes

[Darty Brodeur]: he

[roscoe]: played

[Darty Brodeur]: might squeak

[roscoe]: thirty two

[Darty Brodeur]: in if he was

[roscoe]: h l

[Darty Brodeur]: having

[roscoe]: games

[Darty Brodeur]: if he didn't get injured last season

[roscoe]: like

[roscoe]: yeah he's he's there he's got a
nine nine seven and two ninety three on

[roscoe]: his career hundred and thirty seven games
played so

[biehner_]: i think it would be something

[roscoe]: m

[biehner_]: something like

[roscoe]: m

[biehner_]: thompson in heart so you have your
your hot hand with thompson right now you

[biehner_]: have your

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: international success because carter heart has played
well at every international level and then i

[biehner_]: think third or they bring the flower
just as you know you don't expect him

[biehner_]: to play all tournament yet he's been
there you don't expect

[Darty Brodeur]: just

[biehner_]: him

[Darty Brodeur]: like

[biehner_]: to

[Darty Brodeur]: when

[biehner_]: play

[Darty Brodeur]: they

[biehner_]: all

[Darty Brodeur]: brought

[biehner_]: tournament

[Darty Brodeur]: broder

[biehner_]: but if

[Darty Brodeur]: on

[biehner_]: he

[Darty Brodeur]: the

[biehner_]: has

[Darty Brodeur]: taxi

[biehner_]: to come

[Darty Brodeur]: squad

[biehner_]: in and play a game here or
there he's goin t be able to step

[biehner_]: up and do it m

[roscoe]: yeah yeah i think honestly the defensive
talent that canada has would be able to

[roscoe]: defend whoever they put in net like
i think they've got enough there they're old

[roscoe]: mind you but um yeah i don't
i don't yeah it's just the states have

[roscoe]: hell a buck but really none of
this matters this is the point none of

[roscoe]: this fucking matters because this tournament is
not happening and god knows when it will

[roscoe]: because this has just been impossible so
the point is yeah

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: as

[roscoe]: okay that's actually an interesting question so
this year obviously i would take crosby but

[roscoe]: like when do you stop taking him
if

[biehner_]: when

[roscoe]: we

[biehner_]: he

[roscoe]: were

[biehner_]: stops

[roscoe]: doing

[biehner_]: playing

[biehner_]: but

[roscoe]: so then

[biehner_]: that being said sorry for stepping on
your toes there as much as

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: sorry like as much as we're romanticizing
it

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: if you think about it there's no
way in

[roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: hell they play on the same line
they'd be out there for a power

[roscoe]: no

[biehner_]: play and that's it played

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: like way to different styles of game

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: like mc david would probably more so
be on the line with mckhennan which would

[biehner_]: be absolutely disgusting to watch yeah

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: m

[roscoe]: m

[biehner_]: hm

[roscoe]: and really at the end of the
day what this means the most for is

[roscoe]: growing the viewership of the game which
is what's falling behind look i turned it's

[roscoe]: saturday night it's hawke night in canada
when i turned on my bell five t

[roscoe]: it tells you like it has suggestions
of what's trending to watch right now the

[roscoe]: rafters game was ahead of the leaf
game in trending on hawkeynet in canada saturday

[roscoe]: night like this is guys like come
on you got to get this ship going

[roscoe]: again you're

[Darty Brodeur]: we

[roscoe]: falling behind i don't want to be
fourth rate professional sport here and honestly

[biehner_]: m

[roscoe]: with the world cup going on this
weekend it just

[Darty Brodeur]: yeah

[roscoe]: it really highlights how much hawke

[Darty Brodeur]: and

[roscoe]: has

[Darty Brodeur]: especially

[roscoe]: fallen behind

[Darty Brodeur]: with a beerless world cup

[roscoe]: like

[Darty Brodeur]: right now you guys see

[roscoe]: football

[Darty Brodeur]: that like

[roscoe]: starting

[Darty Brodeur]: this is a perfect

[roscoe]: up it's

[Darty Brodeur]: opportunity

[roscoe]: just

[Darty Brodeur]: for the n hell

[roscoe]: annoying

[Darty Brodeur]: to put their you know send their
guys out there and you know maybe get

[Darty Brodeur]: some some highlights get some some spot
like but of course like you know i

[Darty Brodeur]: said the h l p which really
doesn't give a funk about the players like

[Darty Brodeur]: deep down right these guys have been
screwing the players more often than not and

[Darty Brodeur]: the n h l like

[roscoe]: yeah

[Darty Brodeur]: i don't i just these guys all
need to give her a head to shake

[Darty Brodeur]: because this leak i be goin become

[roscoe]: okay

[Darty Brodeur]: like micky mouse in the great words
of the great one all right so you

[Darty Brodeur]: heard here from darte first like give
your head a shake and figure this out

[Darty Brodeur]: because all you old heads out there
you need to do you need to you

[Darty Brodeur]: guys funk little guys you did not
pay it forward to the young guys coming

[Darty Brodeur]: in and it's showing you need to
give your heads a shake and start thinking

[Darty Brodeur]: about the future because there will be
no messes and grass s and prongers in

[Darty Brodeur]: the future if you guys keep playing
this mickey mouse league trap all right

[biehner_]: m

[roscoe]: damn mike drop all right i think
we're going to sign off there anybody want

[roscoe]: to tip it off before we do
now good cool thanks everybody

[biehner_]: m

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[roscoe]: or not

[biehner_]: m

[roscoe]: some of them will have video and
will just be audio but it will be

[roscoe]: on youtube none the less so if
you want to find it there it will

[roscoe]: now be there all the time thanks
so much for all your support we'll see

[roscoe]: who monday tuesday whatever the game is
monday tuesday

[biehner_]: monday

[roscoe]: i think it's monday

[Darty Brodeur]: daddy elan free luke man

[roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: we love you already