Subscribe
Share
Share
Embed
TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays from 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with full episodes posted to Spotify immediately after airing.
Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” TBPN has interviewed Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Mark Cuban, and Satya Nadella. Diet TBPN delivers the best moments from each episode in under 30 minutes.
We'll take you through some quick headlines of what's going on in the news today. Of course, the the Elon Musk OpenAI
Jordi:for the production team. Yes. Background update.
John:We have a new screen in the background. Much better contrast, much brighter. We're excited to explore this. The production team's stoked. There's four key stories going on in the news today.
John:The first is Elon Musk's $134,000,000,000 lawsuit against Sam Altman goes to court today in Oakland. Musk is alleging that OpenAI abandoned its original nonprofit mission and became a for profit entity focused on maximizing profit for Microsoft. Jury selection is going on today. There are a number of reporters on the ground and will be, checking in on the progress there.
Jordi:Yeah. Already there was some reporting that said certain people were saying it would be difficult for me to be unbiased here because of my general dislike for basically everything going on. Yeah.
John:Sam and Greg were spotted on scene. Elon has not been spotted yet. There's also other Microsoft OpenAI news. They changed their partnership. OpenAI can now serve all of its products to customers across any cloud provider.
John:Andy Jassy had a post about it saying it was a very interesting update. Obviously, he's excited to vend OpenAI technology through AWS, which they also have a partnership. And so in other words, OpenAI can potentially use Google TPUs, Amazon Trainium, other chips are on the table now. There's a lot more flexibility that comes from that. Over in Meta World, China has blocked Meta's $2,000,000,000 acquisition of artificial intelligence platform Manus after regulators reviewed whether the deal violated Beijing's investment rules.
John:This was something that went back and forth. Did they get enough of the company to Singapore in order to clear the hurdles that require the acquisition to go through? Then some members of the Manus team were detained briefly in China on business. There were some issues there.
Jordi:And and one of the challenges is gonna be clearly the Manus team wanted to do this deal. Yeah. They wouldn't have signed up for it.
John:Yeah.
Jordi:It was a great outcome for the They were excited to build with Meta. But one of the challenges is you have all these different team members, many of which, you know, were born and raised in China. Yeah. And they still have family members and people back in China that they care a lot about. So that's gonna be I would assume that's gonna be a leverage point Yeah.
Jordi:From the CCP.
John:And the last story also from Meta is that they are planning to use solar power from space at night, beamed from space. They're partnering with Overview Energy, a different company than the other solar space
Jordi:The other we talked about. Space.
John:They've been in
Jordi:for about four
John:years. They're planning to beam up to one gigawatt of space solar power from orbit to Earth for around the clock power production. They're also deploying one gigawatt of ultra long duration storage batteries with noon energy. So some exciting deals coming out of Menlo Park. We gotta start with these Diet Coke videos.
John:Because I fell down a rabbit hole of Diet Coke Instagram reels
Jordi:I'm surprised you weren't in this.
John:Yeah. It took them a long time to figure out that I drink three Diet Cokes a day and I love Diet Coke. But these, these videos have, brought me a lot of joy. So we can play one. There's been a new study about Diet Coke versus Coke Zero, and we can pull it up in just a minute.
John:It just came out with this new study that compared people that drink Diet Coke versus people that drink Coke Zero. And what it actually found was that people that drink Coke Zero are idiots, and then people that drink Diet Coke are actually sigma chats that are way better than everyone else.
John:Thank you. Thank you. We needed that. Wait. Play the restock video.
John:There's a restock video that is it claims to be $4,000 of Diet Coke stored all over this person's massive house.
Jordi:I think it's about 200.
John:Let's count it up. Let's count it up. Let's pull up the restock video. And you tell me, is this $4,000 worth of Diet Coke? Okay.
John:Yeah. That's maybe $20 of Diet Coke. This is maybe $10 of Diet Coke. Here's another $10 We're what? Under $100 still of Diet Coke, would imagine.
Jordi:I'm just so curious. When do they opt for the plastic bottle versus the can?
John:It is odd. Some people have preferences. I saw, again, on Instagram in my Diet Coke deep dive, someone who insists that the 16 ounce Gone. Aluminum can of Diet Coke tastes better than the 12 ounce aluminum can. That's the level of diet Diet Coke
John:of Oh, so check out the organizational inefficiency here in this fridge.
John:What's going on here? She's not
Jordi:Just putting up Frauding.
John:In the front. Yeah.
Jordi:Yeah. Frauding.
John:Frauding. Yeah. Because you could stack the Diet Coke much deeper, but once you're that far in the reel, you you call it quick.
Jordi:Instagram is just the Diet Coke app for you now.
John:Yes. Well, I'm I'm getting I'm so deep that I'm getting Diet Coke vibe reels. Let's pull this one up because this one is electric. This is like peak content. Oh, there we go.
John:This one.
John:This
John:is like John just walked in middle. Somebody took so long to edit this together is
Jordi:That looks like something you could one shot.
John:I mean, it's like in CapCut, and you'd need to, like, choose the words and place them and add the features. Like, you should be able to puppeteer that with an agent, but I don't know of any agents that are really there on the video editing front. Certainly, the next next chip to fall, the next opportunity.
Jordi:Anyway Rise says, Chad might mog, but when the jester performs, even the king sits to listen. True. And this is incredibly true. We have a friend of the show that is 100% a jester. Mhmm.
Jordi:And the closest thing we have to kings in this industry will pick up his call and listen to whatever he has to say, even if he's gesture maxing.
John:It's true.
Jordi:Base 16 seat. Gotta be honest, bro. Think we deleted But
John:said, gotta be honest, bro. I have no idea what a semiconductor is. Do you know why they call them semiconductors?
Jordi:That made me laugh
John:so hard. Do do you know why they call
Jordi:them semiconductors? I do not.
John:So full on conductors like copper. Electricity flows through it Got it. Constantly. A semiconductor is like geranium or silicon. The current is can be turned on and off, so it's semi conductive.
John:And that started the computing boom There you go. Because you can effectively store ones and zeros in it. A little more complicated than that, but that's like the very high level version for why they are semiconductors. That's not why they call it semi analysis. It's because Dylan just says he doesn't want to do full on analysis.
John:He only wants to do semi analysis. I think his analysis is totally full on analysis, but he decided to go with semi analysis. Anyway, imagine genuinely believing that the entire human race was going to be wiped out in the next year and then you just kind of aimlessly argue about it on Twitter. That is a weird, weird phenomenon that's going on. Oh, Phil is looking for a large gong in the Bay Area.
John:If you are in possession of a gong that is over 30 inches, give him a call. He's the market. He's looking for
Jordi:Is a 30 inch gong a large gong, though?
John:How big is our gong?
John:I think it's 42. 42?
John:We're we're around there. We're around there. Anyway, do you know where we got this gong?
Jordi:Gongsunlimited.com.
John:Gongsunlimited.com, Phil. You have your answer.
Jordi:Okay. But here's
John:I couldn't reply to this on x, but I chose to save it to Monday. Okay. Here's the thing. And tell it to you in person.
Jordi:Yeah. Why did we get the biggest Gong?
John:Why did we?
Jordi:Like, why is there a limit on Gong sizes
John:We've the seen bigger
John:Gongs
John:do online. Exist, but they get very expensive. Sort of a sort of an exponential relationship between gong size and price, unfortunately.
Jordi:Okay. We have to talk about this study that went viral over Yeah. The It is placebo sleep affects cognitive functioning. The What does that mean? The takeaway is that literally just having a delusional golden retriever mindset measurably changes outcomes and physiology.
Jordi:Sleep badly, convince yourself you're well rested. Stressful day, convince yourself it's fuel. Failed, Convince yourself it's useful data. So in this study, it says, the placebo effect is any outcome that is not attributed to a specific treatment, but rather to an individual's mindset. This phenomenon can extend beyond its typical use in pharma pharmaceutical drugs to involve aspects of everyday life such as the effect of sleep on cognitive functioning.
Jordi:In two studies examining whether perceived sleep quality affects cognitive functioning, one hundred and sixty four participants reported their previous night's sleep quality. They were then randomly assigned one of two sleep quality conditions or two control conditions. Those in the above average sleep quality condition were informed that they had spent 28% of their total sleep time in REM, whereas those in the below average sleep quality condition were informed that they had only spent 16.2 of their time in REM sleep. Assigned sleep quality but not self reported sleep quality significantly predicted participants' scores on the paced auditory serial edition test and controlled oral word association task. Assigned sleep quality did not predict participants' scores on the digit span test as expected, nor did it predict scores on the symbol digit modalities test when it was unexpected.
Jordi:The control conditions show that the findings were not due to demand characteristics from the environmental protocol. Those findings supported the hypothesis that mindset can influence cognitive states in both positive and negative directions suggesting a means of controlling one's health and cognition. Take away, golden retriever mode, golden retriever mindset.
John:They made a movie about the golden retriever mindset years ago. I know you haven't seen it. Have you seen it? It's called Yes, Man.
John:I was thinking the Air Bud.
John:Air Bud is a great answer to that. No. That's about a literal golden retriever. Yes Man with Jim Carrey is effectively about the golden retriever mindset. Basically, he's a bank loan officer.
John:He's become withdrawn. He's going through a divorce. He's having an increasingly negative outlook on life. He then goes to this seminar with an inspirational guru who has him enter a covenant with the universe and say yes to everything asked of him. And so he just has to say yes to everything and hijinks ensue, but he has a fantastic time.
John:And it's it's a very like interesting like silver linings story. Bradley Cooper's in it. Zoe Deschanel and Jim Carrey star. Highly recommended if you're looking for a good a good uplifting movie this week.
Jordi:Should we talk more about Meta's Space Solar project? Absolutely. What's going on there? So they announced this morning two new partnerships to bring innovative energy generation and storage to our data centers. We mentioned this earlier.
Jordi:Space Solar partnering with Overview Energy to beam up to one gigawatt of space solar power from Earth orbit to Earth for around the clock power production. What is the company? I think they're in El Segundo.
John:Reflex Reflex Orbit. We talked about that. Yeah. I think
Jordi:Sean Maguire did the deal. And then they're also doing
John:And also, who is it? Co founder of Robinhood. Baju is his name?
Jordi:Yeah. But I thought that was more of a He has compute play.
John:He done more compute. But at least at one point, a piece of the business was collect energy on solar panels in space and beam it down via laser. And so that was all of these projects are, you know, incredibly difficult to to math out and require a lot of different things to go well. They're very exciting. But this company, we've clearly been working for a long time.
John:But if it's working for them and it winds up working for Meta, you can imagine that there are going to be lots and lots of buyers because energy, of course, is in is in short supply. The mirror in space is such an interesting solution to what I'd heard before, which was collected on a solar panel and then beam it down on a laser. A mirror is such a simple solution to that. So we'll have to see. It feels like step one is just getting more solar panels down on the ground.
John:You see these data center projects and a lot of natural gas turbines, not a lot of nuclear.
Jordi:Question is, like, if you have this ability to bring basically 20 fourseven sun, can you bring a lot more solar projects online because the economics just make more sense because you can power things like data centers, especially if you have batteries. The batteries that they are doing in tandem with this apparently have one hundred hours of capacity. So presumably, even if you had a few days of cloudy weather, you could still keep energy coming through the system.
John:Yeah. Yeah. It feels tough because the data center wants to run 20 fourseven, needs to run 20 fourseven. The math on depreciation and the cost of the chips completely changes if you have intermittent electricity. And in some cases, if you lose power, you can actually damage the data center.
John:And so there's a whole bunch of other things that you need to to work through. Did you see this post from Benjamin Todd? This was a very interesting post. We were we we found this a
John:little bit. You I mean, you were the first
Jordi:person that So like, kinda brought this up.
John:I I had looked at But I'm aware. So so so the question is, you know, AI's impact on on on jobs on jobs and and broadly. I I I'd looked at overall employment in India, overall employment in The Philippines, how it was tracking this year because, of course, there's a lot of outsourcing. There's a lot of, lower skilled white collar style work, call centers, BPOs, outsourced processing centers, like small atomic tasks that get done abroad. And so I expected that if there was going to be an up tick in unemployment, it would show up in potentially India and The Philippines first.
John:Of course, we heard that somewhat hilarious quote that 90% of The Philippines' economy is call centers. Of course, it's not. It's closer to 5% or something, maybe 6%. But everyone sort of agrees, at least on the surface level, that it's as Benjamin Todd put it, it's hard to think of a more AI exposed job than Filipino call centers. But oddly, in 2025, employment was up 4%.
John:And so, of course, people will say, Well, maybe it's earlier. The technology is getting better, all these different things. But there has been a process of automation around call centers. I mean, was trying to get on the phone with the company just earlier. I had to go through a whole phone tree.
John:It was even hard to find the phone number. There's a whole bunch of steps that companies take to try and reduce the amount of call center operators that are in the flow. And so this was not necessarily a new trend. U. S.
John:Call center worker employment is in decline, but that started before ChatGPT and is probably mainly about outsourcing. So the outsourcing boom, you would think it would have started with like the dawn of the Internet. I would have expected the trend to start in 2005, you know, like Yeah. Internationalization, globalization was well underway. In fact, US call center business support services, all employees for The United States, the peak happened in 2016 and then declined sort of during COVID and then has been declining ever since, probably as things move offshore.
John:So there so there is a world where, you know, these technologies, they take time to diffuse. And so AI might play the similar role in the sense that, like, there is some sort of onboarding cost to moving from a US based to a Filipino call center. That's taken a decade to actually decline by not even half. It went from 900,000 people to 650,000 people over the past decade. Certainly not good if you're in that you're in that industry in America, but interesting interesting nonetheless.
John:Also, Poland is having a breakout year. Incoming Poland is on track to overtake income in The United Kingdom. This is based on a forecast for advanced economies. UK is growing now slower than Poland. So everyone who's a fan of Poland will be excited to hear Big money.
John:The news that Poland really is going through a fast takeoff over there in Poland. They are doing some great stuff. Poland was once a communist third world country. Now, it's overtaking Britain. This is in The Telegraph.
John:European superpower is luring a record number of UK immigrants with its restored economy and robust patriotism. Three months ago, the British businessman Johnny Mercer ad advertised a marketing role in his construction firm Polestrade based in Poland. Not long ago, people weren't interested in moving here as he sits down with a trendy French bistro. This time, however, Mercer was inundated with Britons eager to work in Poland. 35 applicants for the job were British and happy to relocate permanently, including one without any British links who got the job.
John:People are excited. Noam Brown shared some interesting details about the different constraints on AI progress. He says Noam Brown suggesting that model weights become relatively less important as inference becomes more important, which means securing weight still matters, but securing inference capacity becomes a strategic advantage. This is from a slide for a talk he gave, which is very, very interesting just from an AI safety perspective. The idea of sneaking the weights out on a hard drive that you've smuggled in your suitcase and that being equivalent to a suitcase bomb is Or a refined uranium.
John:Yeah. Yeah. It's not quite the same. Maybe the chips are the refined uranium more than the actual weights, and the weights are merely one piece of the puzzle. Do you have any
John:Yeah. It's interesting because I think recently, the past few months, we've seen this big fuss over distillation. Yeah. But maybe there's an angle where distillations actually gets less important because even if the Chinese can distill our models, they can't serve them. So it's like, you know, is that even important?
John:Yeah. And even if the models are exactly the same, if I'm able to put 10 agents securing my bank account against your one agent trying to break into it, I will have 10x the amount of solutions. And so I should win that battle almost all the time. And you it does seem like we're shifting towards this the incredible value of inference and capacity, which, of course, makes the whole data center slowdown ban so much more complicated because once you get into like the geopolitical considerations and what happens when large inference clusters start coming online elsewhere. And you go back to the Dorkhash, the Dorkhash, what was it, probability density curve where he he says, like, if AGI comes soon, America wins.
John:If it comes over, long term, China wins. Because he's worried about China ramping up their capacity over time, but they're behind currently.
Jordi:Do want an article. It said meet the man who's outsourcing almost everything in his life to his AI assistant. Listens to every conversation, reads every message, emails, and schedules meeting for him, all while pretending to be him. I didn't ask it to help me. I asked it to be me.
Jordi:And Taylor says, I think this will be normal in five years. She has an excerpt here. So he's made a small fortune selling multiple companies to Apple. Multiple companies to Apple. That's always that's how I I love I love stories like that where and recently launched a voice recognition startup called Olive, said his personal AI has all but taken over his life.
Jordi:Now, when he wakes up most mornings, he consults the agenda his AI assistant has crafted for him and then spends his days following its directions. The AI has permission to email people on his behalf and sometimes sets up in person meetings with people he has never met. He listens to conversations he has with his three kids and then suggests parenting advice which he says has improved his relationship with them. It's a portrait of an emerging class of token maxers, power users who are plunging tens of thousands of dollars Mhmm. To MacGyver level AI assistance, not by waiting for the next big model release, but by orchestrating today's models and loops with more computing power, more passes, and more automated checking Mhmm.
Jordi:And a massive dose of risk tolerance. The idea is to give the system an unlimited amount of tokens and access to every conceivable piece of relevant data. I didn't ask it to help me. I asked it to be me.
John:So some of this is extremely weird. Some of this is maybe very normal. I'm trying to think of how many of my interactions in my daily life are mediated by technology already. Like, my alarm clock comes from my phone. It decides when I wake up more than anything else.
John:In fact, I have the eighth sleep will decide the optimal time that I wake up within a few minutes, right, because it's like an adaptive alarm. And then I get in the car. I select maps. It sort of tells me what streets to go on. I'm merely the embodiment of the AI to get where I need to go.
John:And then I have a calendar that tells me what I'm doing when. There are some level of like intermediation, but I don't know. There's there's still incredible value in touching grass and I think that We could see a bull market. I just I just think we're gonna be in this in this barbell world for so for potentially forever, where you have Larry Ellison is buying Oracle data centers and going super long on AGI and also CBS and Foghorn Leghorn. And you got to own Bugs Bunny and you got to own Superman and Batman, right?
John:And then on the flip side, you have Josh Kushner, investor in OpenAI, a ton of different artificial intelligence companies and then on the other side, SF Giants. And it's like, are these diametrically opposed or are they actually are they actually both true visions of the future of the world? It seems like something that is gonna continue. We should go back to Manus. Do you wanna read through the Financial Times with Tyler?
John:And I'm gonna take a quick break.
Jordi:Let's do it.
John:Can we do a two up with Tyler in place of me? And you can read through the Financial Times and sort of some of the reactions because Yeah.
Jordi:So regulators Interesting. Reviewed the deal, reviewed whether deal violated Beijing's investment rules. China has ordered Meta to unwind its $2,000,000,000 acquisition of AI app Manus as Washington and Beijing, vie for dominance over the emerging technology. The decision marks an extraordinary late stage intervention by Beijing involving two non Chinese companies. Meta had already begun to integrate software from Manus, which was founded in China but relocated to Singapore last year.
Jordi:It was unclear how the acquisition could be unwound at such a late stage. A person briefed on Beijing's decision said the announcement could be intended primarily as a warning for similar deals in the future. The person said the gesture was pretty harsh and it carries a strong intention to stop follow on deals like Manus. In reality, it's hard to unwind a done deal. Manus has been live, I believe, in the Facebook ads manager.
Jordi:It is, you know, obviously been heavily branded as a Meta Platforms company for some time now. The Meta team has been investing in in scaling it. And so, yeah, very much feels like a done it had been a done deal. I don't I don't don't think there's been any reporting on it, but I'm I would assume that full cap table had been paid out in large part already. So it's very unclear how you undo something like this.
Jordi:I'm not it's not super surprising given that we obviously forced the sale of TikTok and this feels like somewhat of a response.
John:Yeah. It it it is interesting to is this the moment when, like, China wakes up. Right? People, they're super, like, AGI pilled. They're like, okay.
John:At some point, China's gonna, like, wake This seems, like, directionally towards that. But but it is interesting because, like, you you have this and then you have, you know, China approving the sale of of NVIDIA chips there. So it's like, okay. How much do they really want to disentangle from The US regarding AI sort of thing?
Jordi:Yeah. AI 2027 had China wakes up in mid twenty twenty six.
John:Yeah. It feels like I don't know. Manus is I mean, it's a it's not like a cash flow acquisition. Like, it's not a highly profitable thing that you're trading on earnings. It's a team.
Jordi:And it's a it's a wrapper.
John:And it's a technology, but the technology is somewhat commoditized. There's been code leaks from Cloud Code.
Jordi:It's a super talented product team with a demonstrated track record of getting real paying users. And so the question was always, how much does Zac care about keeping this as a standalone product, an AI assistant for business that
John:can But why even buy the whole company then? Why not do one of those zombie acquisitions where you get the talent, and then you get a license, and then there's a ghost ship, and you leave the ghost ship there because that's got to be harder to approve.
Jordi:I'm assuming that that's kind of what happens. Don't know.
John:Mean It seems like it's too late. They already bought the company, right? Like, already did the proper acquisition, you know, as you said, like paid out the cap table. I don't know. I don't know the exact terms of the deal, but it would have been it probably would have been easier to do something like what Grok and NVIDIA did or like the Windsurf Google thing where like you're bringing people over with this contract.
John:And then, like, yes, China blocks it, but it's like, what are they even blocking? It's just people getting a new job and a licensing deal that the money flows through, and then maybe they try and claw that back. I don't know. It is a tricky, tricky situation.
Jordi:Yeah. I'm not familiar with an acquisition that actually closed in venture that was then later fully unwound.
John:I don't know. I don't know.
John:Delian's taken a victory lap. He says, wow. So weird that they can do this since it's not a Chinese core company. According to Gurley, there's always been back and forth about whether or not China would have any power over the Manus team. And it seems like they have some some sort of power.
John:It says after China's cancellation of Meta's purchase of Manus, why would any founder start an AI company in China if they had a choice? I mean, well, you can make money and cash flow in China. Like, you you necessarily need to sell to an American hyperscaler to have a wonderful life as a founder of an AI company in China. But he makes the argument. In China, you have access to less compute, less capital and salaries are lower than in the West.
John:And if you are so successful that a non Chinese firm tries to acquire you for billions of dollars, the Chinese government will lure you back to Beijing, ban you from leaving the country and take your profits by canceling the acquisition. Manus did everything right. They even moved their entire business to Singapore to comply with U. S. Outbound investment restrictions.
John:Their only mistake was that they originally founded the company in China. It's not even clear what this means for China to force Meta to unwind the transaction. Is it going to force Manus researchers to return to China and place exit bans on them too? Is it going to force Manus' founders and shareholders to pay back $2,000,000,000 to Meta? This is what happens when you regulate by fiat rather than by rule of law.
John:Ultimately, is a much larger defeat for the Chinese AI ecosystem than for The United States. Interesting. Meta will be fine without Manus, but Chinese nationals looking to AI to found AI companies will increasingly start them overseas. It's interesting. The message from the Chinese government here is that every AI company founded in China will forever remain subject to the Chinese government regulatory pressure and manipulation regardless of its legal status.
John:So he goes on, but you can read that there. What's what's Bill Bishop up to these days? He says he's quoting from the Financial Times. Did we already read this? A person familiar with the matters that Beijing had told the two companies that the deal must be unwound completely, including returning funds reregistering the company's ownership and halting Meta's unit use of the Meta of the Manus algorithm.
John:The person said that if the parties failed to fully undo the acquisition, Beijing could impose penalties on Meta, limit its limit its China related business, and possibly pursue criminal charges for individuals involved. That is a wild
Jordi:China does have a good amount of leverage given that's like tens of billions of of Meta ad spend
John:Yeah.
Jordi:Is originates from Chinese companies.
John:Mhmm.
Jordi:And so they could put pressure on Chinese companies, pull back spend, which would would hurt Meta. So, yeah, very very unclear how this will all sort itself out. But, yeah, unfortunate unfortunate for everyone involved.
John:I'll have this post from Michael Chang. He's showing sort of a glimpse of, like, the future of generative UI. So the prompt here, hey, chat GPT, what's the weather like today? Might have been a little bit more complicated than that. But using the new Images two point o, it is rendering sort of a video game style map.
John:I don't even know. This feels like the type of map that you'd see at the front of, like, the Lord of the Rings book or, like, a Game of Thrones book. But it's giving you the actual information, like, accurately telling you for each neighborhood what the weather is like. Of course, you didn't need that much information because every single town is 56 degrees, maybe 57, maybe 55. There's very slight there's very, very slight differences.
John:It is an interesting world where you're getting closer and closer to this generative on the fly UI. Ben Thompson wrote a big bull case for the meta augmented reality headsets, not just Orion, but also the meta Ray Ban displays today, talking about as AI models get better, on the fly UI generation with less Chrome, which is like the top bar and the bottom bar and less permanent UI functionality, is what actually feels magical. Like, when you go to look at something and you get something that perfectly sums up exactly what you're looking for on the fly. And previously, was it possible to build something like this? Absolutely.
John:You but you would have to hang out in Blender and create the three d map and render it and then and then build some web page that would go and pull in the the data from APIs and place it on the
Jordi:Ryan says one tower Golden Gate is a crime.
John:Oh. So more work to be done. Jobs not finished. Goodbye.
Jordi:Cheers.