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We explore stories of mystical adventure, inner transformation, and a little bit of fire β sometimes literally.
This show is about pushing limits into the unknown, discovering who we really are in the process, and celebrating the moments of connection that make us feel more alive.
Janelle 00:08
Welcome back to the Alighted Way. We are going to jump right from the frying pan straight into the flames of a different fire in this next episode as Janelle interviews Jodie as she shares her stories about being a dragon keeper and what that really means to her. We also discuss how she assesses and distributes certain dragons to be partnered with people who need them. This show is about pushing limits into the unknown, discovering who we really are, and celebrating the moments that make us feel alive. So, let's get into it.
Janelle 00:47
Welcome, and thanks so much for doing this.
Jody 00:50
Oh, my pleasure.
Janelle 00:51
Yeah, so where to begin? Where to begin?
Jody 00:54
I wouldn't even be able to guess. You have to ask a question. I don't know.
Janelle 00:58
The first thing I wanted to ask, is more like, how did it all start
Jody 01:04
For me I was thinking about this, because I thought we're gonna talk about dragons.
Janelle 01:09
Yeah,
Jody 01:09
When did this start, right? Like, I can say consciously when I started seeing them in the skies, like I was like, wow, could you, where did you guys all come from? Right, so that was probably 2015 but then I started walking around my house, and I'm like, okay, I have this most whimsical, cutest little collection of dragons from when I was a little girl, like in the 70s, so
Jody 01:38
you like, I think it was
Jody 01:40
always there,
Speaker 1 01:41
yeah, right. And I'm really whimsical, so my, my dragon world is very whimsical and wispy, and although the dragon that I think spends most time around me is enormous, mountain size big, and red and black, which is not whimsical in my opinion, but it seems like he's my, my buddy, he's my main dragon. I'd say in the last five years they started talking to me, I could hear them in my head, like Gandalf the White. Think of that kind of wizard voice, that really deep, low calm, and it's not all the time by any means. They're just there, like they're just there. They will tell me stuff, or if I'm talking to, I can see he's so big, I can only see his eye, and I'm not like a seer, I'm like ClarCognizant. Is that knowing, mostly, , the knowing.
Janelle 02:45
Yeah, or like sensing presence
Jody 02:46
it's just.. it's the.. it's just the knowing. It's not like I get goosebumps when they come or anything like that. I just.. I'm aware that they're.. it's all.. it's just all of a sudden, but I can hear the voices now, and that's only been in the last maybe three years, whereas that's where I get the Gandalf voice. I'm like, what kind of voice would that be? And I seem to get all my messages via movie scenes, because clearly I watch a lot of movies. That's how long, like forever since I've been here. Mom used to do psychics, and they'd be, she would want the reading, and they'd all be staring at me as a little girl, so they must have seen something. I don't know. Diane says, "I'm like lay.. I'm laying in wait. There's something that's going to be that's going to trigger me into something big. I don't know what that is, but it's going to be huge.
Janelle 03:41
That's exciting.
Jody 03:42
Well, I suppose I'm like, yeah, like to be in the shadows
Janelle 03:45
interesting thing of waiting, knowing something's coming down the pipe.
Janelle 03:50
Yeah,
Janelle 03:50
but not sure what or when or where
Jody 03:54
And just have been doing that.
Janelle 03:55
Yes,
Jody 03:56
because I know I'm supposed to do something, or maybe I'm already doing something, just I just had to surrender to it. If, when it's going to be time to do something, I'll know, because I'm very good that way. I trust my instincts, I trust my guides, I trust
Janelle 04:14
when it's when it's go time.
Jody 04:16
Yeah, but in the last, like I said, in the last probably three or four years, I went to this lady. She's a psychic, and I'd met her one time before. And as I was coming in, I said, "Oh, we had talked about dragons at this festival, and she goes, "I was wondering why they were all sitting on my house. There's so many here, and I went, "Okay. So she called me the keeper of dragons,
Janelle 04:41
okay,
Jody 04:41
but I don't agree with the word keeper, but what?
Janelle 04:44
Yeah,
Jody 04:44
The vision I got in my head would be like, how to train your dragons when they all became friends and there was dragons everywhere,
Janelle 04:54
yeah,
Jody 04:54
right, so somebody has to feed them and somebody, right, so keeper would be more like. Like I'm going to tend to you guys until you are placed somewhere else,
Janelle 05:04
okay That is fascinating,
Jody 05:07
because you would never say that to a dragon, that there's no ownership,
Janelle 05:11
yeah,
Jody 05:11
there's nothing like that, yeah. But when someone's in distress, and it could be someone I see like far away, I asked them, I'm like, can they have their dragon yet? And whoever they're like, yes. I said, can you send whoever is meant to be with that person, and then I'll get an image in my head of coloring, size. I don't even have to talk to the person, I just am
Janelle 05:38
like you're automatically forwarding.
Jody 05:41
It's just like I don't know what that means, and so now it's just become this lovely quiet little game. I have friends that are like, I'm in dire straits, can you send in some dragons, and they will phone me, and I'm like, yep, let me see who wants to come, and I'm like, I'm sending my big guy in, and you get this one as well, and even my daughter's at camp, she's special needs. I said, Mags, can I send a dragon with you? And she's like, yeah, I'm like, what color do you want? She's like lavender. So I'm like, okay, so we're driving, it's by Edmonton, and we're coming around the corner, and I turn and look, and I go, Maggie, there he is in the clouds, enormous big head, just beautiful, coming out of the clouds, and the way the clouds were moving right over top of her camp. I'm like, do you want it just for you or for everybody at camp? She goes, everybody at camp, I'm like, enormous, just I love when you see I'm like, I'm like that's what I seem to do, but very quietly I don't do this for a business.
Janelle 06:48
Yeah,
Jody 06:49
I just do it because I'm supposed to.
Janelle 06:52
Yeah, yeah, it's important work. I find I would be well, I'm maybe several things, but like one of the things that I am is a dragon caller.
Jody 07:02
Okay,
Janelle 07:02
yeah, which means what can call on the dragons to come. So it's like calling, which you know is what's similar, similar to what you're doing as well.
Jody 07:12
It has to be more than me,
Janelle 07:14
yeah,
Jody 07:14
because there's a lot of dragons all of a sudden. Yes, like they're they're everywhere. I see them, or you know them. I don't, I see them. I, the only place I see them is in the clouds, but because they seem to move those clouds around within their shapes,
Janelle 07:31
yeah, or
Jody 07:32
or out of the corner of my eye, or I find them everywhere. And then I transfer them to people in like even little forms.
Janelle 07:39
That's perfect.
Jody 07:40
So, when you do your, yeah, what do.. what does that look like?
Janelle 07:44
It started with me going to Japan, and I got a dragon egg in Japan gifted to me that I was to take care of, which is like a dragon keeper, sort of what you're talking about, and so then that hatched, so then it was a little girl, and then I had two other, you know, two other eggs gifted to me, and then they went to Greece with me.
Jody 08:12
Okay,
Janelle 08:12
the three of them, there was two girls and a little boy,
Jody 08:15
okay,
Janelle 08:16
which is like a whole other big topic,
Janelle 08:18
So, do they give like names, like your big one, you know, like to say I am so and so, or no,
Jody 08:29
I don't get names, because what I get is the idea of them without the English language. I don't like the English language, it's very corrupted, they don't use it, and it's more of an impression of them. If they were going to put it into words, it looks like way too long, and just it would be like reading Elven, so I don't even worry about it. I'm very like when I, when I'm visual, I can see them, I can see the shimmering of the different colors where they like to reside. Are you a water dragon? Like, are you air? Or mental liar, yeah, it could be anything, right? Never names, isn't that funny? If someone, I'm from what I understand, they don't care what you call them, it's they don't have that need to be identified that way, not in my world anyways. It's just never been something that stood out. I just know what he looks like, I know what it feels like, and then that's it's not even like a really cuddly, like I am with my dogs or cats relationship, it's just a their thing,
Janelle 10:30
I think, because of the sizing, it's more, you know, these like I actually have seen smaller dragons, oh yeah, like that look like little dogs,
Jody 10:39
oh yes,
Janelle 10:40
like that kind of a sizing,
Janelle 10:41
yeah,
Janelle 10:42
for sure.
Jody 10:43
Oh, well, and that's sometimes what I've gifted away or transferred or adopted out. I don't know, no offense, they're all shapes and sizes. I would, you know, I haven't seen them all. I haven't done millions of these things, but I just happen to always hang out with clearly massive ones, so they don't really cuddle with me sadly. I can hear it when I call in for protection, and it didn't - it occurred to me just recently because I thought my house is like 1994 it was built, so it's pretty settled, but when I call in for them to come, and can you just sit on the house, just watch, and they reduce, or whatever they do, but that house creaks, you can hear the one side, it just goes, it just pops up, like, like a big weight sat on it, and I'm like, oh, I correlated that sound to the two, to the calling in, to the calling in, and I'm thinking, I don't know if you've experienced this, that they can change size as needed, so my big guy can reduce down if necessary, but if I really need a bed cuddler, I get an orange one feed, and it's that's an orange one, yeah, don't know the name, but definitely more cuddly.
Janelle 12:04
So, you were saying more like the last few years, it's like there's been more communication. Yes, so is it more like a guide, like in there they're guiding you with wisdom, or they're you're talking about protection as well. So, is there anything else that that they do for for you or for others.
Jody 12:24
Do you know, honestly, they're they're very similar to having a wise friend. I don't hear Pete from them unless I ask for something from them or some information or unless it's really dire that they want me to have some information, like they're transferring information for me to hold it in this plane of existence, this dimension, just even if I'm just not even sharing that information, it's just like I'm going to hold it here because we are here, but that information needs to be transferred, it goes into our grid guide protection, yeah, it's almost like a friendship, right? Like I'm tending the farm of the dragons and doing what I do to just energetically they're just hanging out with me until it's time for that person, and I've asked, can this person have a dragon, and they said no.
Janelle 13:18
I've had that as well. Yeah,
Jody 13:19
right. And I'm like, really, and it's like it's not time, or they're not, they're not going to receive it well.
Janelle 13:28
Yeah, not open,
Jody 13:29
they're not open to having, yeah, what needs to happen. Yeah, I'm like, okay, but, and I mean, total absolute, just saw a person, and I can feel that, and I, I'm like a dragon. Can they please? They need something. It was a little girl. I really got a very bad feeling, and they were like, yeah, really quickly. Baby dragon went, and I actually could envision it curled itself right around her, so anywhere it was, it was like wispy, and always was around her, like protecting her, coiling around her, and I'm like, thanks, so I get all weepy thinking, because you can't do anything sometimes, but I'm like, I could send her dragon in, so that was really nice, he makes me weepy, was really just little girl, yeah, that's what I seem to do, but I do it like I said, I do it quietly. It's not not a business, it's not.. I just.. it's passionate for me, and I like I said, I think that train's long since gone. People are just used to me saying, 'Oh, did you see that dragon in the clouds? They're like, 'No, I didn't see the dragon in them. Like, how could you miss that? He was swapping over Rocha jokes, so yeah, yeah, it's been fun, actually. But they must have come in. I've heard different, like, I listened to different podcasts, and they felt that there was a portal that opened over. Hawaii in about 2016 2017 and then the dragon started coming through. That was about the year that I went there and went to this really cool retreat, and had to just sit with Pillay, Pillay on her lava bed, and just sit there and talk to her, same as you, transferring that energy, bringing it forth. And as soon as I went there, then I started seeing more and more dragons. Then I was called to go to Ireland and just hold a place of energy there and transfer energy back and forth, like to Mexico I go and just go wherever it takes me and transfer energies back and forth. I never really know what I'm supposed to do, I just go and let it let myself be guided. So, going to Scotland, funny, I'm just waiting to see that'll tell me, like, then I start typing it in, and you get sent, like, to the perfect and pronged. Okay,
Janelle 16:00
interesting places around the world. There's ley lines, but they're also called dragon lines.
Jody 16:07
Yes, I've heard that
Janelle 16:08
you can definitely work with the dragon lines.
Jody 16:10
Okay,
Janelle 16:11
putting them online if they're offline.
Jody 16:13
Okay, you know,
Janelle 16:14
like
Jody 16:15
I wonder if I just do these things without having the kind of intellectual knowledge of what I'm doing, like I haven't actively looked to see where the ley lines are. I just kind of sit there and feel it, and go, okay, well, I gotta go in this direction. I'm like, willy nilly girl,
Janelle 16:32
you do what works for you, you know, like it's part of a process.
Jody 16:36
And now I'm going to look up the dragon lines, that would be amazing information to have,
Janelle 16:40
yeah, especially with all of the different places that you're talking about.
Jody 16:44
Okay,
Janelle 16:45
yeah,
Jody 16:46
there's a place in Portugal. I had a did a journey, drum journey, and I saw it got you, was this very clear, this journey, and I was tired at the time, I had come through a lot of stuff, so in the journey I walked across this bridge. I went into a Tartarian castle. It was very white, very light colored, and someone was like, "Come and rest. And I went into this pool that was in there, but it was black, dark black. And the dragons started swimming up, and they stayed in the pool, and they swam in the pool with me, and they're like just rest, just recharge, just rest, and but a year later on some video on Instagram I saw that place, I went, that's that's where I was, so it's all these old cultures, like the Tartarian culture, and that's just been calling me home, right, so when it's time I'll go.
Janelle 17:43
I think that's the important part, is that when you hear the call, it's to listen to that and heed the call. I think so, and do what is needed wherever they need you to go.
Jody 17:58
Yeah, and and I don't try to hyper analyze it anymore, because I'm very high thinker, like I like to, I like to know stuff, like to research everything. This particular category in my life is the one category where I just allow, and if they say you need to drive to some obscure lake somewhere. I'm like, okay, and off I go. I'll bring my paddle board, I'll sit in the middle of the lake, I'll do whatever. Right, the bigger trips are bigger trips, they take a bit more planning, but I just allow it. I try not to hyper analyze it. If they wanted me to have the information, I swear they'll send me a TikTok video, something that I could absorb that information, and then be able to go, oh, that's the word, then I can do a little bit more research on it, or a book will land in front of me, or some great ways, or the miracles, they just have a way, it's amazing, so I just surrender to it, and just allow with the dragons, I just allow they're so much wiser than I am, and they will, they will get me heading in the direction I'm supposed to do, even if it's to a person like you. Yeah, so that's lovely.
Janelle 19:18
Yeah, it's almost like a reconnection of people that need to reconnect with each other. Yes, because
Jody 19:25
we were kept separate for so long, holding that space, that energetic space. It's like I felt like we were all lightning rods in the ground in certain spots of ley lines, and we just had to sit there and hold this energy, and now we can finally see each other. It's a little, it's getting a little less lonely.
Janelle 19:44
Yes,
Jody 19:44
so because I find life can be very lonely. Although I love my solitude, honestly, if anybody was like a dragon, it would be me. I'm like,
Jody 19:52
I bag and go in my case. See you later, going up really high, so you can get me.
Jody 19:58
And just that quietness, I love. Quietness.
Janelle 20:01
Yes, I could go to, like, a silent retreat,
Jody 20:05
yeah,
Janelle 20:05
and be fine for three to five days.
Jody 20:08
No, I know you would never guess it once you get me sitting down talking about something that I love, but my daughter, she doesn't have a lot of language, so we can just sit in absolute silence for four hours, not talk right, like driving dead, and this can be totally quiet, just listening to me sick, but no conversation. So, yeah, it's.. it's the nature of us, I guess. Did you feel like you were a dragon once, or a dragon rider, or in the past?
Janelle 20:42
one of the first interviews I did, she had a very distinct memory of being a dragon rider. That's not quite where my dragon experience has has come from. Mine started in Bhutan, a tiny little place between, you know, India and China, it was almost like I had a dragon initiation there with the dragon, and so I sort of write about it in, in one of the other episodes, but it began my process with dragons, where we, he charged at me, but not like in an attacking way, but it was like I subdued him, and then we sort of swirled around, and I subdued him with something from my eye, like liquid came out of my eye, and then he was, he was subdued, and I could work with them. He gave me one drop of dragon blood that he put in and around me, and yeah, it was a fascinating process.
Jody 21:52
Sounds like it, yeah, going head to head with a dragon is the thing,
Janelle 21:56
but he was little, like he was like a dog running at you,
Jody 22:00
yeah,
Janelle 22:02
like, like a 40 pounder,
Jody 22:04
yeah, just a little one, just a little guy. Did he have wings?
Janelle 22:07
Yeah, but he was like a shaman of the group. Okay, you know, initiation for you, it was an initiation for me that day at the Burning Link. That was very important piece that kick started things off, and that was like in 2010
Jody 22:24
Okay, so why do you think that there is more and more dragons? Like, are they here to help support people? Are they what are your thoughts on that? Well, what I, in my world, what it is that support that re uniting people with their dragons, so dragon like a dragon rider, right? I'm sure, because I've got this really wildly old soul, I think, because I can see different images of different times, and I've been around since creation, like fire and brimstone kind of situation. Had wings and everything, but was I a dragon? I don't know, like I have the images, they're all in my head, but during some of the big wars, because I'm a warrior spirit, yeah. Then I had the dragons, and I dated, yay, somebody who killed me to kill the dragon to heal that wound. It was a funny process finding that, and the wound is still here. I had a spear, and that's Diane said in one of the sessions I was with her. She goes, I had to put a dragon egg in your wound to hold space for something that's coming, because it was such a big wound. Like, it's been eight years, I think that this wound has been bothering me. And I like, through a series of sessions with different people, we part and pieced it out that the man I was dating, who was a chiropractor? You think he could have fixed this wound? Wanted that my dragon daddy wanted me, and the only way to kill the dragon, from what I understood during these sessions, was to kill the rider, because you're so bound together, and I hold this wound to, like, in this lifetime, so it's a lifetime in this human form to heal this wound, which is aching right now as we speak, and hasn't ached for a while, and I'm like, "Oh, I wonder what's going on, because this is activated again, I can feel it. So, in any healer I went to, anything, because I tried everything to heal this, they're like, "There's a spear in here, there's like they kept seeing something through me, so finally that the spear is gone, but the wound was there, but to kill it, like it was like I cried, because that my dragon died, so it would make me cry to this day, and it's like your cat dying, or your dog, it was such a. Severing of souls apart, so I feel like in this time that we're in, we were fractured as a soul, and we're slowly gathering pieces of our soul back in, so we can be a complete soul, and I'm thinking that the dragons are coming back in, because we're starting to gather to become that wholeness, so we can sustain the relationship with our dragon. We couldn't, we weren't strong enough, because human souls outstanding, but we have to be complete to be able to like connect with them. Think of that movie, you know, or they connected the hairs together, like that, that sort of intense bond, that's why I feel like they're here. If you could really see it, you'd see them perched everywhere, and in trees, and they're waiting for their people to do the work, the soul work, the ancestral healing, and all the stuff we know we're going through to gather back the pieces, and like when my mom died and my dad died, I felt like they had to leave to die, so I could have those pieces back, right? Because you've traveled in these pod pods of family souls, right? Yeah, like a soul group, like it's a soul group, but what I, the messages I was getting was those pieces we all needed to come back together like Mercury, so they chose to leave in this lifetime, so I could be bringing these back, just gathering them back in, collapsing old timelines, different stories, because they're all starting to collapse and bank into each other, so that we can be this whole powerful human that we're meant to be, because all of our DNA strands are like they're opening, we're 12 strands of DNA, if not more. Lord knows what it takes to be a full bind with our dragons, but they're here, so that's got to say, and everybody's on their own journey in their own timeline of that,
Janelle 27:03
yeah.
Jody 27:03
So that would be my theory of why they're coming, because we are ascending, we're ascending in this human form, which we've never done before. So they're waiting, you could just see them all excited that this is going on, and they're, they have the endless patience, because they're so old, because I don't think that they.. I'm sure that a lot of them died. That's where we get a lot of our mountains, and our lot of our really neat things that we're, you know, experiencing in this lifetime, but they just went to a different plane of existence, so they couldn't get dense like us, like a third dimension. There's no way, no, they could do that. So we have the bones of dragons in our mountains and all over the world, but I think they're coming back, or they're here, but not for everybody, and not everybody's going to see them.
Janelle 27:57
No, and that's that's the interesting part. The more that people are working towards, you know, evolving and being whole,
Jody 28:07
yeah,
Janelle 28:09
you lose pieces of yourself, even like with a car accident or something, you know, where a part of you gets left at the accident scene where you need to actually call back your pieces, your pieces from wherever they, they lie.
Jody 28:28
Yeah. Well, and we're in such a process of that, right? And I think we do a lot of work while we're sleeping, because I always think these dreams that I'm having, that's a very vivid of these lives that I'm reliving it, and then condensing it in, and reliving it, and condensing it in, like you'll have a dream of a car accident, like that was when I was 17, and then all of a sudden you have a dream of that, and it's being put into the Jody cup, right, to get this full pulling and gathering gently back, and then ancestors, right? Like, we're bringing in just that inner jet, like, just because I think I don't.. Lord knows what that's gonna look like when we're completely whole. Some days I'm like, that's gonna be a wild.. what am I going to be like? And do you know, what are we going to be like
Janelle 29:22
when it's like walking on the earth, almost like within your own ascension? Yeah, is how I see it.
Jody 29:31
Yeah, yeah, it's stunning. This has been a really, really amazing journey. It's been hard. There has been.. I have had a challenging life, but I wouldn't change anything. I just think I think it was in my blood, and being a warrior for so long, because we've had so many wars, and this is 1000s upon 1000s of years of wars this lifetime, this person sitting. Here now I finally realized, and I laid my weapons down, and it's been - that's been my, it's been challenging to not war to fix everything in love.
Janelle 30:13
Well, and I tend to still have a sword, but I'm holding it up as a sort of truth.
Jody 30:19
Oh, good, I like that. I definitely have one strap to my back in the possibilities. Just engage, just in case. Do you remember Wonder Woman, where it was in the back of her dress? Like, you guys like that, because I am like, it's so funny in my feistiness. That's why I have a giant black and red dragon, because I'm very feisty, and I'm not. I'm very mischievous. I have tons of elemental fairy energy, and in a pinch, you know, I will fight. I have no problem with it, but I can diffuse most things now. I'm learning to diffuse most things in that silence, that wisdom that the dragons have, that silence, and that you don't even need to move, you just need to hold your space, you hold your look, you hold everything, and you just hold a space of love, and Yeah,
Janelle 31:10
you are a container.
Janelle 31:11
That is all of the questions I have for you. Thank you, Jody, for sharing your experiences with us today.
Janelle 31:18
There it is, and there you have it. Thank you for sharing and brightening the path today. Join us next time as Janelle delves deeper into dragon lines around the world and how she works with the energy at sacred sites along these paths. This episode drops July 16, and we will continue to share and explore more stories that may take you beyond the edge of your boundaries. We encourage you to be open and come along for the wild ride. Safety first, though, so buckle up if you are interested in learning more about dragons. Janelle created an introductory dragon course that is live now. Go to thealightedway.com website to register, become part of our community, or Brood in Dragon Speak, and the magic that lies within. New episodes drop twice monthly on Thursdays, so don't miss an episode until then, keep the flame of curiosity burning,