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Indigenous Wisdom is about opening yourself up and getting to know yourself better as a Human being on this Earth. In this podcast, Julia shares messages, channeled wisdom, and more to support your wisdom journey.
Julia Carmen 0:00
Today's episode touches on some heavy topics, including abuse and suicide. If you'd like to skip ahead of these parts of the conversation, you can visit our show notes to see the timestamps and details of where you may want to skip ahead or resume your listening experience today.
Julia Carmen 0:33
Hola, beautiful beings, and welcome back to the indigenous wisdom podcast. Yo soy Julia Carmen curendera de las curenderas, and it's an honor to be your guide on the path of soul remembrance. In this episode, we'll dive into chapter 12 of my book, The indigenous soul, and meet our guide, light crystal dragonfly. Light crystal Dragonfly is especially important when the world around us may feel at times dark or heavy or no bueno. This dragonfly helps us see the light within ourselves. Remember to visit the school without walls.net. To find resources and wisdom, knowing within wisdom that builds on today's conversation. So let's begin our journey together. Mirala, go get some cafecito, because this is more than cheese, man. I love to read to you light crystal dragonfly. Light crystal dragonfly, look at all the angles, your angles. They stare into you like no other. You move, they move. You stand, they stand. You love they love. You are the light of the crystals. Do you not see it? Hold us within your heart, and you will know the angles of you this lifetime and beyond in the light crystal, you are eternal. Amen. What I like to share with you to this chapter is about mental health, and the first couple sentences came up. It says, What about the boys? What about mental health? What are these doors? What about the boys? Now, when they say, boys, you know, I kind of like question, like, is this not for women? Also, few women, yeah. And basically they were talking about that male energy, that movement, right and as a hue woman that has birth for males, and actually one female and was married to a male, I really had a chance to, kind of, you know, check this out, right? And, of course, having a father and brothers and so on. And then later in life, I opened up a center that was a wellness center called antolino family wellness center, which Antonino, what is, was my brother who passed before I was born. I think he was three or four. And yeah, that I ran that with my daughter for 20 years, so I had an insight on the male energy of being right for 20 years, I heard and listen to secrets. You're not secrets, yeah, you know the deepest, darkest kind of secrets of males on who they be. And I kind of got to know, yeah. And in actuality, what I, what I, what came up for I one day and I thought this, there's got to be, what is this? Because I'm a woman, so I know women, women. I was hanging. That was six siblings, six female siblings. So there were seven females and my mother and my grandmother. And those of you that have been listening to this podcast have heard me talk story and about my mother and grandmother, not so much about the male energy, right? So I thought, Okay, I have all this experience working with men, men that have actually hurt their families on one form or another. And so they would come to our center from the courts. So listening to stories from 1000s of male energy folks, I thought, huh. And then I looked at the over culture, and I went, huh. And then this is what came through. This whole world was built on man's insecurities of themselves, money, relationships, health. Now is the time of healing as we fight for the all of being with the life of the muhej, the love the in, love of her within and the out. No battle within, no battle out there, only the love of self, of being pure love in abrazos, amen. We'll come back to that later, but that's pretty much the just of chapter 12. And will head mean to woman, yeah. So in that it says, with the life of the mu head, we give birth, yeah, in the love of her, with in and the out there,
Julia Carmen 7:21
I would like to share a couple stories with you about, I don't know if they're stories, but my experience with mental health issues regarding to and I'm going to use because his chapters is really heavy into the male frequency of being and reading This. This whole world was built on man's insecurities. Yeah, so if, if a male frequency of energy is insecure, what do you think is going to happen? So the few stories I'd like, it's a kind of a touchy one for i because it does talk about suicide? It talks about Yeah, suicide talks about that, yeah, so and I have permission to talk about this. So I raised these, or gave birth to these young men, and like I shared, I'm just repeating here, you know, the the work that I did, and one thing that I in general, that I know we noticed that when humans, when men, male energies, found and saw and awakened to that which they have hurt people, yeah, people that they love, or people that they think they love, because of the insecurities they have, they lashed out and they hurt people. There would come a point where, because we had them for a year, I'm talking about the Wellness Center. We had them for a year, and about the fourth month, 16 weeks, we noticed that when they would wake up, there was this, oh my gosh, like they've awake awoken from a moment of sleep. However old they were, we had them as young as 18 and as old as 75 maybe old, maybe a few older than that. But that was pretty much the yeah from all walks of life, from all demographics, and yeah and I wake up and they would just, you could see them look like, oh my gosh, what have I done? And so we would direct them back home to self. We would call back then we, instead of wisdom, not wisdom, but the soul. Self would be the knowing within. We called it innate wisdom, innate meaning something and. You're born with right, and the wisdom within self, right? And so as the agency, we would all kind of get together and give this person support, this male person, support of being. And this was really interesting, because when they would come in, there looked like it. I couldn't, you know, the work I'm doing now is not what I was doing back then. Meaning I couldn't tell them that I see things. But I did, you know, and I saw that they had this like cloud of doom and gloom, very thick frequency of energy of being right. And as they saw themselves and had the remembrance of self through the work that we did as a as an agency, you could see their whole face lightening up, their their eyes. A lot of people would say, oh man, he has really dark eyes. And then as time went on, the eyes with just like they go. He has blue eyes, as blue as the sky, or as green as the sky, or as brown as can be. It was almost like we couldn't see the whites. Yeah. So when they were able to see that which they, you know, what harm they, they, you know, out of their insecurities of being most of the time, like 80% of the time, there was no going back. Their their significant others have moved on. They lost a lot because of their insecurities of being right. What does this have to do with chapter 12 and the light be in the crystal, yeah. It has to do with that, which is this world has been in, in in frequency of a male energy. And when the male energy overpowers the female of creation, it stifles something, something beautiful, yeah? So these persons would start seeing themselves and start knowing and it was really amazing to see this transformation, yeah? So, like I said at the fourth month, a lot of them had science, pseudo ideology. Yeah, they would like, yeah. So we would get that whole group. When my daughter and I completed this 20 years of working with this demographics of folks that were sent from the courts, we never said one word about that yeah to the other agencies that were doing the same thing. But we looked at each other and we said we didn't lose one, Not on our watch. There were other agencies that did lose folks who may lose, you know, through suicide and homicide kind of deal. They were just yeah, things that you see in the paper Yeah, and we just yeah, in 20 years now, what was that? Why? Why is it that we were able to do that? Is because we, we actually invited these folks to come back home to self in ways that they Well, yeah, to forgive themselves. Not not by Oh, I forgive myself. I'm gonna move on and to make amends in their own way. Yeah, it was beautiful. And as we were running the center, people never knew the work we did, and people would come by because we were in an area where it was pretty public and people combined, what do you do there? Because confidentiality was number one, right? And we said, oh, we just, you know, do some counseling. They go, Oh my gosh. It feels so good there. We feel this love coming from. There we would go, okay. And my grandchildren, the little ones that grew up there, basically my daughter's two girls, they never knew what we did. Not that we didn't say anything. We just, you know, it was all confidential, because once we left work, we didn't talk about it, yeah, and when they did find out at the ripe ages of you know, young ages, they went, Oh my gosh, yeah, because it's about unconditional love, yeah. So I'm sharing that with you, because I always it's beyond hope. Meaning didn't sound right, right, beyond hope. Hope is great, but there's more. Hope opens the doors. Talking about doors, yeah. So the male energy, you could look at it, is the warriors of the non physical being. Yeah, fighting the wars of the now and in the presence of themselves as warriors of the light, they must walk both worlds, the physical and non physical worlds, to win their war. And this is in parentheses, parentheses, yeah, right quotes, quotes, not parentheses. Quotes, yeah, the evil and the goodness of God. What does that mean? Yeah. So I very seldom use the word good or bad or evil or good. So so if you could look at it when evil and goodness show up in the human or the HU woman, you know, in the vernacular, in the speech, it is because our human ness is talking in the non physical realm of being, there is no good, bad or indifferent. But as soon as we become human beings, humans and humans, we have this thing, what we call choice. And so then it becomes a frequency of you want to call it dense frequency, and some people call that evil. And then you have medium frequency of being, yeah, and then you have a very fine frequency of being. When I use medium, it's kind of like, that's just a word, right? But the fine frequency of being, yeah, so in the non physical realm, that's pretty much what it is. But as humans, we are looking for some kind of point of reference. The brain is our human AI is looking for some form of reference. So it puts it in a box. It says, Okay, that's good, that's bad, yeah, that's evil. That's goodness, God, meaning the creator of all the great I AM.
Julia Carmen 17:09
So when folks, and I know you know folks, whether it and in the physical realm, it really a lot of them are male folks, yeah, and then you have these females that have, like, this male energy of being, yeah, and those are the ones that will they fight because, yeah, they're fighting a war that most of us cannot See. And a lot of folks call that mental illness. So how do you go from that mental illness into that light of mental health of being Yeah, so these human, human soldiers, they may not go to a physical war, but they will definitely experience PTSD, yeah, so maybe some other acronym for that, but it's similar to that. They love this world in both its physical and non physical forms. There's more in this chapter 12. What I'd like to do is to start going into that which how we be part of that healing for ourselves and those that are around us. The first thing about warriors of the light there's bringing them from warriors of the fight to warriors of the light, l, I, G, H, T, right, yeah. So in that physical realm, yeah, you're talking about bringing the old into the new, and then the new into the old, right? It's a real difficult thing to do, because as humans, we hold on to the habits of being, because our human brain insist upon protecting us. And if we've had a negative experience, whether it's in the physical or non physical realm of being, our brain holds on to that. So if we, if you or a family member, is dealing with mental health issues and and I have to just share with you folks I've had, you know, anyways, I kind of don't want to go into those stories. But, you know, my own personal with my own family, with my own self, and stuff like that, in the human realm, if we try to take something from someone, if you ever try to, they call it they suck or not. They still call them the cootie blankets. Have you ever. Try to or force someone you know, take away their cootie blanket, they will hold on to it for dear life. And that's where a lot of you know when, when, when humans think that someone is trying to change them from the old history of thinking, yeah, what do you think's gonna happen? There's this thing that I know when somebody is just trying to help, or I'm just trying to help, it looks like I'm trying to change them, or I think something's wrong with them and nothing's wrong with anyone, and that's exactly how one feels if someone comes in solution oriented, like, Do this, do that, do that, do this, do that, I'm not saying no, give them support. What I'm saying is go back to that soul. Listening. Yeah, listen, listen to what they're sharing with you, and then trust that you'll know how to be in that space with that person, that light, warrior of lights, warrior of the light. Remember, they're switching from warrior of the fight to warriors of the light. Because once we as humans, and whatever it is that we're doing, once we see someone suffering like that, and it's not easy, I understand that fully. It is not easy to deal with someone, oneself and someone, because our brain doesn't think it has choice. Okay, hear that again. Our brain doesn't think it has choice. It just thinks I'm going to save you at all cost. And this person in front of me is telling me, right now, I'm effed up, and your brain will look at that, that person will look at that as a threat. So free will, free choice, is something we can't take away from anyone, no matter what. So we go back to
Julia Carmen 22:30
so attempting to force others to release the old can lead to you losing yourself to the cause and all being lost. Very true. I'd like to share with you we talked about doors, right? Yeah, we're going to go there with the free will and free choice of being now I would like to share with you that there are many doors in the non physical realm of being. Have you ever seen those movies, or whatever you know, like there's movies, or I don't know, and there's always a door. Go through that door? Well, there's so many doors, multiple doors, in the non physical realm of being that we could move through endless, timeless, yeah, it's pretty much the way it is. So what I'd like to do is for you folks to think about, you know, the number three always comes up and in ways when we're doing this work, yeah, not always. So we're going to pick three doors, and I want to share with you to actually be careful when you do that, and anytime we do anything, anytime we walk through a door, it's always good to have some kind of an intention. And when I call it intention, you know, like, Okay, I'm here for my mental health. I'm here for the mental health of my, you know, the person that I care about, or like I talked about the center, you know, the persons of the center and things like that. There's always an intention in the in that when we walk both worlds at the same time, the physical and non physical, because mirare and the and in that which, when we are not able to walk both worlds at the same time, and we see things that you know other people don't see kind of deal, right? It is disheartening to ourselves and others, right? So in the intention of it that self recognize that you would like to you know, kind of like pick three doors that you know that will bring peace and silence to your human heart and the remembrance of your ADMA and the remembrance of your free will and choice. Nice. So in that, I usually ask folks to, kind of like, check it out and go, Okay, what are three things we're always, always, I don't know, say battling with, right? I just had to put a thing here also, too. But before I go into that, is that when we do this work, and I call it work, and word, yeah, the work is that which is that we want to, like, look at, and the word are the words we put to it right? It's very important to be clean, meaning, if you are the one that's being the seer of the you know, you know, the person right? What I'm sharing with you is very important, no altering substances, and even food can be an altering substance. Well, actually, it is quite that I'm a foodie. I love my food and over consuming anything, even the good stuff, yeah, like we mentioned earlier, so just kind of keep that in mind. So imagine three doors, and then one of them is your financial well being. The next one is your relationship and well being, and the third one is your health and well being, which could be each one has their own component. So we talk about relationships, right? And in that relationship, the relationship to self first, right? And then to those around you, same thing with the financial well being. Was talking to one of my grandsons last night. Actually, he's 19, and he's on his path of movement and and we were talking about those three things, and I was sharing with him that, you know, the financial well being in my younger days, I really didn't have, I'm gonna say, a handle on it, and I wasn't. Some people might say I was a people pleaser, and I did differ, not defending myself. I just look back and I go, No, I just didn't have that imbalanced with my human self. Yeah, so I would give what really, in actuality, was not right, right for I for myself to give, because I wasn't looking at my future. I was looking definitely at in the moment of time and space. So if I went through a door that had financial well being, I would see the whole picture, and would see how it would benefit the other person. Yeah, not because I wanted them to like me, but because I just saw that right, not recognizing that I had this human need in my life to provide shelter and and food and stuff for myself. So that's one way, or, you know, so you want to look for balance in both worlds, right? So when you open the door to the financial well being, you want to get quiet, do some soul listening and be right, recognizing you have choice. Yeah. So let's just sit in a little example. So the you know, in the mental health would be your mental health, and those around you and relationship would be you, and then those around you. A lot of times, people look at relationships as part of you know your partner, which your person, but it could be really and it's so many different relationships. If you look at the Greek, you know the Agape love, and you know all the different kinds of love that that falls under. That's why that is Yeah. So I would like to share with you that when, when you choose to choose a door, you do it with a sense of groundedness and a sense of your energetic boundaries in place. When we talk about that in, oh my goodness, I think it's chapter four in the archetypes, yeah, which is very important because yeah and my, one of my sons, my youngest son, who did not follow that direction, he and he's, you know, one of those folks that that had some, I guess I'm gonna share it. You had some mental health issues, and I have permission to talk about it. I just, you know, like, have my thinking around it. And, you know, he would like, what we call jump time. He would jump through so many different doors, and I would go, Where are you going? And then he'd come back, and there wasn't any container, you know, for he so he would bring back stuff, yeah, and some people would call that as evil, you know, that's, you know, all these different words, yes, yes, and no in the non physical realm. Remember, it's dense frequency, yeah. And then you bring it into the physical realm, and then that's your mental illness, mental instability in the human realm happens. And he has fought all his. Life fought, but that whole thing about his own, you know, like walking both worlds at the same time, yeah, and being balanced in them. And he has me as his, as his mother, and I think that's why I hesitate, because I'm like, Why didn't I see that? Yeah, and like, how could I help them? And I did everything in my humanly and, you know, like I took him to the best traditional and other healers like myself, other folks like myself, other seers like myself, and they all pretty much said the same thing. It's pretty much what I shared with you a little bit earlier it's basically trust, trust that he knows, trust that you know. What you folks need is there, like, oh, it's tied up in a little package. No, I think when we we mess around as humans in realms that we probably shouldn't be hanging out in we definitely need to get our our medicine, what I call chichi soul time. I call our medicine our medicine bag, whatever that might be. Yeah, so you always want to go in with and I'm not going to share with you what I do, because then you'll This is not about that this, but you finding your way of going through these doors, yeah? So you can go through the store and say, Ian, the creator of all because you're co creating with everything, right? And then you go through that one of those doors, and it's through meditation with intention, like, maybe you're looking for a job, yeah, or maybe you're looking for a community, or something like that, right? Out of those three, maybe you're having a mental, I'm not mental, but a physical illness. You know that your body's in disease, right? And you're trying to figure out how that your your peeps trust me. Well, you don't have to trust me, but trust your peeps. Trust the universal source of the all and you go in and you sit and you be, when we say sit and be. It could be meaning taking a walk or Yeah, or watching a movie that feels good, that you enjoy laughing. It could even mean just setting a timer and watching some silly videos and laughing and laughing and laughing and laughing, or an old movie, it could be so many things, or having the best meal,
Julia Carmen 32:26
where you just consume that meal and it tastes so good. Or cleaning, I have found that I really don't like cleaning guys. I really don't, but I have found that sometimes I just go, I'm just gonna go clean and do the endless laundry, which could, you know, whatever. And the next thing I know, I'm inspired because I'm doing, you know, I'm doing something that doesn't require me to think in the human realm. And I get all this inspiration so that could, tongue in cheek can be your own, you know, chichi soul time. And then when you're done, the best thing to do is thank all those that showed up, and then gently close the door, and then sit. And when I'm saying meditate, you could do prayer, you could do walking, you could sing, you could move and then say amen. Amen actually means and so it is, and so it's done, depending on, you know, where you get the info, so it's Amen or whatever, whatever you say, yeah, so those, those doors, that's a very small little piece, and the book will have an actual exercise on that. But I just wanted to share with you that, what, what? What happens in in mental health situations is it actually is someone walking through a door they innocently, or like my son would intentionally do that yeah, and then bring into his realm of being, you know, kind of Yeah, and then just going back to that energy of being, and how some folks male energies go into warriors of the fight and needing that support when they come back, yeah? So that we can invite them into being warriors of the light. Yeah. So if you think of warriors of the light, and think of, I was thinking about the archetypes again, there's an archetype, a warrior archetype, and there's one thing I kind of share was just like a warrior of the light. Li ght, right? Of love and all that good stuff, has a has a sword, and it's in a shiv. That's what it's called, right? But they don't keep they don't threaten people with it. They don't a warrior of the light does not pull out his the warrior of the light only pulls out his or her sword when they're going to. Use it, yeah. So you don't want to put yourself in situations where you're constantly fighting a battle, constantly over and over and mental health when we're off as humans, I'm not saying off like but as humans, it that's what it feels like fighting these battles. And most people don't see the battle because it's not manifested in the physical realm, unless you know we're using substances to quiet that down. And then that's a whole nother chapter. Well, part of this chapter, so that that's what I was going to share. There was something I was going to share earlier, and that is when I was running the center. Is to go to all these different conferences and stuff. And I remember that the conferences would always focus in on the the negative. Why were people hurting their families, mainly men? And then I'd say, yeah, 90% was maybe 99 point. Whatever was that. And there, I kind of thought, I naively, you know, my in my 40s, thought, Oh, my God, I go to these conferences and they're going to show me how to help families, how to be part of the healing, right? No, that wasn't it. It was all doom and gloom that that people can never change. Humans can never change from being a certain type of person. I think here comes free will and choice. I recognize that some people choose not to, and then there's some people that don't even know they have choice. And then when they recognize they have choice, they go, Oh my gosh, I can change this. I said, Yeah. And they go, my gosh. I have innate health within myself. I have goodness within me, and I have hurt people, you know, or I've hurt myself or whatever, right, not whatever, but you know, hurt myself hurt people because I didn't know I had choice. I may not be able to repair what I've done, and I need to take accountability for all that I've done, but I can move forward now and have a better life, because I have an indigenous soul, a soul that has the Alma, indigenous Alma that has all the information for myself to do, all the healing that I need and want, and hopefully to be there for those that I love. But it has to start with you. Yeah. It must start with me and you. Yeah. So, this we also talk about, we're talking about the archetypes, right? And I'm just going to touch on this, and I'd like to share with you the seeables. What in the world does the seeables mean? I'll give you the definition right, right out of the dictionary. But before I share that with you, when one of my grandchildren, a lot of you know this, or don't I have, like, 27 grandchildren and 10 to 15 great grandchildren, the fact that I don't have the right numbers. Yeah. Anyways, one of them when she was like, Oh, she was under five. She was five or six years old, and I was and she's 20 going to be 22 pretty soon. So she was little, little a child, a small child. I was sharing with her and her mother that I was going to do a class for kids that see right? And I was thinking, Hmm, I wonder what I would call it. And she looked up at me and said, You should call them the seeables. And I go, seeables like, huh? Is that even a word? So I looked up at the on the diction in the dictionary, and it says, Ah, yes. It actually said this, yes. It is a word, seeable definition capable of being seen to be seen, that which is to be seen, able to be seen, visible, capable of being seen, open to easy view. So we talked about doors, right? We talked about how, how to discern which door you're going to go through. Yeah,
Julia Carmen 39:48
one of the archetypes in chapter four, actually, is an archetype is sea bolts, great for you to go back there and kind of check it out. You. That would be the podcast chapter four would be April. Kind of neat, huh? And if you want to know more, you could also join us on episode 47 because Byron, um, Lou, he actually, I did a short interview with he because he was in one of the classes. So we're moving into time and space, right? It's a really good idea to be seen, be a seeable in the most, healthiest way, but most important to be able to see you see, able to be seen, to self, recognize you have choice. Breathing in between the dots, the dashes, in between the dashes, yeah, we are born, and then when we rebirth, I thank you for listening. Amen
Julia Carmen 41:14
mirele, I hope you enjoyed this series, as we've explored the 12 chapters that are the heart and soul of my book, The indigenous soul. As we close today, I invite you to continue your journey of soul remembrance by joining the community, our community. Subscribe to my weekly newsletter to receive more teachings, guidance updates directly from the School Without Walls. You can find the sign up form and all our resources at the school without walls.net. Thank you for joining us, and thank you for you know, like, really like hanging out here if you've been listening to these chapters, and like I mentioned before several times, I'll repeat myself, 11 and 12, I think were the most challenging, and there's so much more. There's so much more about chapter 12 and so much more about chapter 11. So come on back, and thank you so much for joining us. Tons and tons and tons and tons and tons and tons and tons of podcasts out there. Every time I look I go, there's a new one. So, yeah, you know, let us know how you know, like, give us a rating, write a little something, let us know. You know, if you have questions or anything like that, yeah, we're here for you in so many different ways, and check out Those doors with love and light and thankfulness. Amen
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