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So how do you run a VIN on a vehicle? How do you perform a VIN check on a car you're looking to buy, maybe one you purchased and you're trying to get a title for? One of the misconceptions is you can do this online. You'll see things like Carfax or VIN check or all these VIN lookups online that you can pay $10 or $15 for and get a VIN report. The problem with that is it's going to be about 40% accurate.
If you're looking to get a 100% guarantee to make sure that there are no liens on a vehicle, that it's not stolen, that it's not a parts-only vehicle, that there are no title limitations like export-only or salvage, or other types of records, there's only one method to get it 100%. In most cases, it doesn't cost any money; it just takes some time. The sad part is it's not going to be as convenient as just pushing a button on your computer and waiting for it to pop up on your screen. But the reason that convenience is there is because they don't look for everything.
In fact, if you look at the disclaimers on Carfax and other websites, they'll tell you this isn't 100% accurate and may be missing things. For example, CARFAX is not allowed by law to access all the lien information in all 50 states. Lien information is protected under federal law and legally cannot even be released to third parties unless it's done in person. So how do you run a valid VIN check? Well, let's take a look at the three-step process that anybody can do. You don't have to be licensed, have any kind of certification, or have any kind of authority or logins. Anybody can do this for free. Some states might charge you five bucks to get some of the records.
You have to do three checks of information. Number one is you have to go to the Department of Motor Vehicles in person in the state where you're located. So if you're in, let's say, Florida, you go to the DMV, any local office. Some states call their office a different thing; some states call it Secretary of State like here in Illinois, some states call it Department of Transportation like in Pennsylvania. You're going to request a VIN history. Now they're going to make you sign a form. You can see on the screen here's an example of that form; it's an information request form.
Why do you have to go in person? Why do you have to sign a form? Well, here's why: There is a federal law called the DPPA, and you can look it up, USC 2725. The statute prohibits the disclosure of personal information without the permission of the person or acceptable uses, and you have to be an authorized recipient. Well, to be an authorized recipient, they have to know who you are. You have to be there in person in front of them. They're going to make you sign this form, and you're going to have to certify that you're not going to use it for any prohibited uses like stalking, identity theft, or fraud. You're using it to verify information, and that's one of the permissible uses that allows you to get this detail.
Now, I know it sounds inconvenient; you have to go to DMV—nobody likes to go there—but if you want 100% accurate information, it's the only way to get it. Now, here's the thing: They're only going to be able to tell you about liens and prior owners. They're not going to be able to tell you about salvage or even about stolen because stolen vehicle information is kept in a separate record system with law enforcement under the NCIC, National Crime Information Center.
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Here's the thing: Some states will, at the DMV, log into the National Crime Information Center and get stolen car information. Occasionally, they may not do it every single day; they may do it once a month, once a quarter, or twice a year. So you run the risk if you just rely on the DMV under this information request that you might not get stolen information. We get over a thousand phone calls a day in our office. Very often, we get calls from people who said, "Hey, I ran a VIN check. I even went to DMV, but I found out later my car was stolen because the DMV doesn't have stolen information."
How do you get stolen car information? Well, what you do is now you leave the DMV and go to a local law enforcement office—police department, sheriff's office, state patrol, anybody with a badge and a gun. Same thing: You have to go in person with your photo ID and tell them the VIN number. They will look it up. The reason you have to go in person to the police department is because if the car does come back stolen, they want to know who you are so they can find out where the car is. They don't do it by phone because if you call them up and say, "Hey, is this car stolen? VIN number 1 2 3 4," and it is stolen, they say, "Yeah, it's stolen." You can just hang up, and now they don't know who you are or where the car is. They don't want that. You have to go in person. They may also make you sign a form.
Now, here's an important thing: If you go to DMV, if you go to the police department, whatever they tell you, get it in writing, get a printout. You don't want to go back later, and they say, "Oh no, there is something on this car," and you can't say, "Well, Joe Schmo told me two months ago that it was clear." You want to get it in writing because sometimes they may have wrong information verbally.
The last thing you need to do is check with the NMVTIS, National Motor Vehicle Title Information System. This system has information about flood cars, salvage cars, parts-only cars, export-only cars. Now you might think, "Well gee, can't I get that from the DMV?" Not always. The DMV doesn't always have the information. Again, we get thousands of calls a day. Many, many times, people say, "I got a title from the DMV. They gave it to me. Everything was good, right?" Then I found out later it was a junk VIN number; the VIN number had a salvage on it.
Sometimes the DMV doesn't always check in advance when they issue a title. People want a rush title; they want it on the spot, and the DMV gives it to you. Then later, if they find out there's something wrong with it, they revoke it. So you want to check the NMVTIS. If you go to their website, you can find out if they have a local branch you can go to. Sometimes they'll give you a login where you can get it through their database. You want to check all three. If you don't check all three, you run the risk of buying a car with a bad history or even not getting a title for a vehicle because of something or needing some requirement like an inspection.
You want to know this information before you move forward. Don't try to take the easy way out. If you run a Carfax or a VIN check or any of these websites, you're going to spend $10 or $15. It might seem like it's easier than having to go someplace in person, get in a car, and drive down to DMV, but you might save an hour's worth of time, but you might get bad info. These Carfax-type reports are very misleading—very misleading about what they have. You don't want to be risking thousands of dollars on a vehicle, on something that maybe you saved a little bit of time on but found out later that the vehicle has a problem that wasn't disclosed online.
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