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Join Rem and Alvia as they navigate the joys and perils of adulthood as a married millennial DINK couple in the Philippines, while also trying to break the stigma against the DINK lifestyle or being childless by choice. We tackle challenges like facing adult responsibilities, managing finances, growing careers, breaking generational traumas, generating social impact, cultivating relationships, and determining who should be washing the dishes.
DINKWAP stands for Dual-Income No Kids with a Podcast!
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Des: So you admit that you were fragile?
Rem: Yes, I'm the one who "felled".
Alvia: Okay, you "felled".
Des: You "felled".
Alvia: Brought to you by kick out of Ateneo.
Rem: Now you know why, guys.
Rem: Now you know why.
Alvia: He won't survive.
Des: It's true.
Des: It's like Ateneo's decision was right.
Rem: You don't fit the values of...
Alvia: I "felled".
Des: Why did you "felled"?
Rem: The Ignatian values.
Rem: You don't embody.
Alvia: Too fragile.
Des: First ever pet name with the other.
Alvia: First ever pet name...
Alvia: "B"
Rem: B?
Rem: No, no, I have a different one.
Des: "Mine"
Rem: Oh my God!
Des: He's not my boyfriend, guys.
The DINKWAP Show
Dual income
No kids
With a podcast
(Theme Song)
Rem: And welcome to another episode of
Rem: The DINKWAP Show
Rem: We are your hosts I am Rem
Alvia: Alvia
Rem: And still here
Rem: Our only friend
Des: Des
Rem: Yes
Rem: We are still talking about
Alvia: A lot of stories
Rem: A lot of stories
Rem: After the last episode
Rem: We still had discussions
Alvia: We still debriefed
Alvia: But it's okay, we'll keep it to ourselves
Rem: Shouldn't record them
Alvia: So we'll move on because
Alvia: our charisma might be ruined
Alvia: It's okay, it's okay
Alvia: Let's move on from Blue Magic
Alvia: We were just talking about this
Alvia: They had competition but they didn't survive
Alvia: The one that used cans
Alvia: Teddy bears in cans
Des: I forgot the brand.
Alvia: The bear gets ugly because it's cramped.
Des: It's forced to fit in the can
Alvia: It's hard to pull the bear
Des: Its form gets ugly
Alvia: So they didn't survive
Rem: Blue Magic is still alive today
Alvia: But the poop is gone
Des: Yes, there's a poop toy.
Rem: I don't know
Alvia: Let's move on from Blue Magic
Des: The bottomline...
Alvia: So that was high school
Alvia: Dating in high school
Alvia: And then because we ran out
Alvia: We took over the airtime
Alvia: Rem is next
Alvia: Dating in college
Rem: I'm just a wallflower here.
Rem: Even in high school I was a wallflower
Alvia: He came from an all-boys school
Alvia: so that's challenging
Des: I feel like that's a factor
Des: Because in our case, they were classmates.
Des: So it's easier
Rem: But there are some
Alvia: School bus
Rem: School bus
Rem: I was just a wallflower
Rem: But I was the oldest
Rem: In the school bus
Rem: And I was the only one
Rem: In high school
Rem: So there's that effect
Alvia: And if you're from an all-girls school
Alvia: When you see a guy
Rem: But no
Rem: I was with girls from the co-ed school I mentioned
Rem: That we treat
Alvia: But you're in high school
Rem: I'm in high school
Alvia: So you're cool
Rem: I don't talk
Alvia: He was the first nonchalant.
Des: He's the literal nonchalant.
Rem: My favorite spot in the school bus
Rem: Is the exit
Alvia: That's the cool seat
Rem: I'll look outside
Rem: I'll just stare at nothing
Rem: That's why sometimes
Rem: I just stare blankly
Rem: I'm not aware that I'm already staring at other people.
Alvia: So she thought you're looking at her
Des: She thought you felt something for her?
Rem: But me
Rem: She was trying to drop hints
Rem: But those weren't on my mind
Des: You were just staring into the void.
Des: You weren't actually look at her.
Des: You were just staring randomly.
Alvia: Sorry to the girl
Des: Whoever you are
Des: Who assumed that Rem likes you
Rem: I'm sorry
Rem: I realized it only when I was already in college
Alvia: That she was dropping hints.
Rem: "Wait, why was she giving me stuff?"
Alvia: You know girls
Alvia: They overthink
Des: True, you just take a glance at them
Des: Them, not us.
Alvia: Even just changing the pitch of your voice.
Des: The "Oi" is higher
Alvia: We'll talk about that later
Alvia: Let's move on to college
Alvia: You go first
Alvia: We'll talk about ours later
Rem: I'll leave you guys
Rem: I can go to the bathroom
Des: Rem will talk for a bit
Des: Then it'll just be me and Alvia talking
Rem: I'll take a power nap first
Alvia: Our seating arrangement is nice
Des: So it's right that I'm placed here.
Des: That's why I'm single
Des: That's why I'm single
Alvia: College
Alvia: What was dating like in college?
Rem: I wasn't
Rem: I didn't have money
Rem: I couldn't afford it
Rem: Dating was an idea
Rem: that you had to spend money
Alvia: You should give gifts
Rem: But
Rem: There was this girl
Rem: who's from UST
Rem: We met her
Rem: Back when I was in
Rem: "Arr-neoh."
Rem: Before I was in kicked out.
Alvia: Just watch his other podcast.
Rem: I asked them
Rem: Do you know anyone who got kicked out of Ateneo?
Des: Yes, you!
Rem: Do you know any Ateneo kickout?
Rem: If it's rare to know an Atenean,
Rem: Ateneo kickouts are even rarer.
Alvia: That's a good point
Alvia: Anyway
Des: I'm proud to be your friend
Alvia: We're proud of you
Alvia: You're the only Ateneo Kickout I know
Rem: So
Rem: We met her
Rem: I don't want to say where we met her
Alvia: Everyone will know who she is.
Rem: Was it mIRC or Yahoo Messenger?
Alvia: mIRC
Alvia: We only know YM
Rem: I feel it was from YM
Alvia: You guys used mIRC
Rem: I think it was YM.
Des: MY?
Alvia: mIRC. It didn't reach our generation.
Des: I promise I haven't heard of it.
Des: Messenger, yes.
Alvia: For me, YM too.
Alvia: Anyway
Alvia: He's in denial
Rem: We met her through YM
Alvia: That's untrue. He doesn't know how to buzz.
Rem: I wasn't the one who met up with her first.
Rem: My bestfriend in Ateneo did.
Rem: He met her
Rem: I was surprised
Rem: Are you sure?
Rem: You met someone you didn't know
Alvia: See? They did EB.
Des: What's EB, by the way?
Rem: Eat Bulaga
Alvia: You taught me that
Des: EB
Des: I haven't heard that for the longest time
Rem: For us Gen Z
Rem: EB is "eyeball"
Des: What's eyeball?
Rem: You see each other
Des: Literally eyeball
Rem: You eyeball each other
Rem: So
Rem: You need to make sure
Rem: if you're talking to the real person.
Alvia: There was no AI at the time yet
Alvia: But maybe there's a scammer
Des: There were a lot of scammers even before.
Rem: The term "catfish" wasn't even coined yet.
Des: Not yet
Alvia: Someone told me before he was cute, but in person, he wasn't.
Des: Haven't experienced that.
Alvia: Later, I'll tell you.
Rem: So that's it
Rem: You need to eyeball
Rem: You need to text her
Rem: What you're wearing
Alvia: This is an age reveal.
Des: Old school
Alvia: I've never done that
Rem: Where she's sitting
Alvia: They said
Alvia: If she's not thier type, they have an extra shirt.
Rem: That's true
Des: So that you're not the one you're describing anymore.
Des: That's clever.
Alvia: When she says she's wearing blue
Alvia: "I don't think I like the one in blue."
Des: That's clever.
Rem: That's the men's modus
Rem: You'll check if she's your type.
Rem: If not
Des: You'll change shirt.
Rem: "Let's go home"
Rem: "Let's go home"
Rem: Then you'll have to change your mIRC handle
Alvia: There's no display picture
Alvia: In MIRC
Rem: Yeah, there's none.
Des: There's one in YM
Rem: Maybe it was actually mIRC
Rem: No, we met her in YM
Rem: But in mIRC, it was like that
Alvia: He doesn't want to say the truth.
Alvia: Go ahead and continue your story.
Rem: You never know if they're using a different photo.
Alvia: Continue!
Rem: There are pictures
Rem: In the photo
Rem: they're beautiful
Alvia: It was not high resolution back then yet.
Alvia: It was just a webcam
Rem: Pixelated
Alvia: Now, what's that on the Macbook?
Alvia: Photobooth?
Rem: If you opened the download
Rem: It takes a long time
Rem: To load the picture
Rem: Then it's pixelated
Des: The quality was bad.
Des: But back then, we were already content.
Alvia: A looker!
Rem: I'm not saying...
Rem: But we were still kids
Rem: We were shallow
Des: So here's the thing
Des: That was the criteria
Des: In our generation
Des: Preferences
Rem: I'm not saying that's right
Des: But he's not saying it's wrong either.
Alvia: We're not saying what we did was right
Rem: But yeah
Rem: We did those things.
Alvia: We just did them.
Alvia: That girl met with your friend.
Rem: He was the one who courted her.
Alvia: The girl?
Rem: My bestfriend
Rem: He wasn't supposed to...
Alvia: They had an EB
Des: But the ending
Rem: Sorry friend
Rem: But
Rem: It was a long time ago.
Des: Sorry friend
Rem: We only have 4 sounds
Rem: But
Rem: They didn't end up together.
Rem: The girl was picky.
Rem: But they went out.
Des: The girl was picky.
Des: But
Rem: That's the time I got kicked out.
Des: She's picky so she picked the kickout?
Alvia: She wants...
Alvia: "I like bad boys"
Rem: I told you
Rem: I didn't have a girlfriend in college.
Rem: So we also didn't end up together.
Rem: Spoiler alert
Rem: Spoiler alert
Alvia: It's confusing
Alvia: Des has a lot more stories to tell
Alvia: We need to allot time for her
Rem: This episode is just about me
Des: We had a lot of airtime last episode
Des: We were just causing chaos
Rem: This is me getting back at you.
Alvia: Okay
Alvia: So you got kicked out.
Rem: So what happened is...
Rem: She got a boyfriend
Rem: Then
Rem: I don't know what happened
Rem: I became her bestfriend
Alvia: Those "Bestfriends"
Alvia: Here we go again with "bestfriends".
Rem: You know what...
Rem: Even if she watches this
Rem: I have no regrets
Des: Done, sealed, good.
Rem: I don't care.
Rem: But
Alvia: Those "bestfriends".
Rem: But of course
Rem: I'm a man and I'm fragile
Des: So you admit that you're fragile
Rem: I'm the one who "felled"
Rem: "Felled"
Alvia: Brought to you by
Alvia: the Ateneo Kickout
Rem: Now you know why guys
Alvia: He won't survive
Des: Ateneo's decision was right
Rem: You don't fit the values
Alvia: I fell
Des: Why did you fell?
Rem: The Ignatian values
Rem: You don't embody
Des: After you fell
Rem: But of course
Rem: She had a boyfriend
Rem: I remember I admitted to her
Alvia: While she has a boyfriend
Rem: So I don't
Rem: I can't do this
Rem: Because of course
Rem: It hurts
Des: So you acknowledged the fact that she had
Des: a boyfriend
Des: So you didn't want to...
Rem: You tried to avoid her.
Rem: But she wants to maintain that
Rem: friendship
Rem: Because of course
Rem: You have a boyfriend
Rem: You have a bestfriend too
Rem: You're in a win-win
Des: She's a winner
Rem: So that's what happened
Rem: They broke up
Rem: Eventually. When I was alread in FEU.
Alvia: Two schools after.
Des: After being kicked out.
Rem: Before I went to FEU
Rem: I went to another school
Rem: But that's my final school
Des: Let's proceed to FEU
Alvia: Anyway, he was in FEU
Rem: She was studying in UST.
Rem: So it's closer
Rem: We hung out
Alvia: I'm ashamed for you
Des: After you got kicked out
Alvia: I'm ashamed
Des: Two schools after, we hung out
Des: After he fell
Alvia: It's so cool
Rem: She was staying in P. Noval Street
Des: I know that
Alvia: She's from Manila
Des: I almost enrolled in UST
Des: Our condo was in P. Campa Street
Alvia: I don't know
Alvia: I'm not from Manila
Rem: I always hung out in that area
Rem: Eventually
Rem: They moved
Rem: They moved to EDSA
Alvia: It's so far
Rem: Well, I went home
Rem: to Antipolo, so it was along the way
Des: Why are we meddling with his story?
Alvia: Sorry, it's your story.
Alvia: He didn't know us yet at the time.
Des: We didn't know him yet.
Rem: You know
Rem: You're hoping
Rem: Because they broke up
Rem: She's keeping you around
Rem: She knows how you feel
Alvia: Then you're fragile.
Rem: It's your first time
Rem: To feel that
Alvia: So what did you feel?
Rem: Disgust
Alvia: I won't disturb your story anymore.
Des: It's his story.
Rem: There were times
Alvia: Were you a sadboi?
Rem: I was a sadboi inside a jeep
Rem: I didn't have money for taxi
Alvia: His trip was long
Alvia: Imagine, FEU to Antipolo
Rem: I was heading home from their place in EDSA
Rem: Cogeo-Cubao jeep
Alvia: *sings* "You are with someone else..."
Alvia: "even though you were together with her"
Des: I don't know
Des: Their jeep
Alvia: When you're in the
Alvia: Antipolo-Cogeo jeep
Alvia: You'll feel the bass on your butt
Alvia: And the lights are red
Rem: The lights hurt your eyes
Rem: It's either those red lights or dark blue
Rem: But they hurt the eyes
Alvia: It's already night
Rem: You'll hang out at their place
Alvia: You'll be courting
Rem: Let's say I was courting
Rem: You're with his family
Rem: You get to know them
Rem: You're going home
Alvia: So you were hoping badly?
Rem: That's what's funny.
Alvia: He's in a jeep
Des: I don't know the beat
Rem: But you're right
Alvia: It sounds like broken speakers
Rem: When I was in school bus
Alvia: You were a sadboi
Rem: I was looking outside the bus
Alvia: You were looking outside
Rem: Yes
Rem: Tears are forming around your eyes.
Alvia: Let's have her ride a jeep.
Alvia: The long trip
Des: You should have me ride a jeep with sound
Rem: Are those still around?
Des: Are they still allowed?
Des: I only know UP Ikot
Rem: That doesn't count.
Rem: UP is a bubble
Des: I know UP Ikot, UP-SM.
Alvia: Antipolo trip takes 1 hour minimum
Des: Mine's just 10 minutes
Alvia: How many songs does it take?
Rem: We're not the rich ones
Rem: She is the rich one.
Alvia: So anyway
Alvia: EDSA trip to Cogeo.
Rem: That's it
Des: So emo
Rem: You'll cry
Rem: It lasted a long time
Alvia: How long?
Rem: I don't remember
Rem: Yeah, years.
Rem: From when I graduated
Rem: up to when I got work.
Alvia: I know this
Alvia: This is a good story
Rem: I was really led on.
Rem: She was saying there was no hope.
Alvia: But you were still hoping
Rem: We even had a...
Rem: She had a pet name for me.
Alvia: Oh my gosh
Alvia: He has a pet name
Rem: I won't say it
Alvia: Tell us later
Rem: I forgot what it meant
Alvia: The thing is you were hoping.
Alvia: I think this is funny
Des: Pet name
Alvia: Turn off the mic
Des: Just one
Des: Just one pet name
Des: I'll say it
Des: First ever pet name
Alvia: "B"
Rem: No, mine's different
Des: "Mine"
Rem: Oh my God
Des: He was not my boyfriend
Alvia: You say yours
Alvia: Des's is embarassing.
Rem: If I say it, it's too obvious.
Alvia: There's no other one.
Alvia: Ok, tell us later.
Alvia: I think it's funny
Alvia: I don't even know who she was.
Rem: But yours is worse.
Alvia: Yours is way worse.
Alvia: But it's high school
Des: What's B?
Alvia: We didn't like baby or babe
Alvia: They're too common
Des: "Mine"
Rem: It's like you're on TikTok
Des: It's like live selling
Rem: So how did it end?
Alvia: They had pet names for each other.
Alvia: Was this the one when you were already working?
Rem: Yes, I was already working.
Rem: All my friends know this
Rem: They always tease me.
Alvia: Was she the one you lent money to?
Alvia: I'll tell you later how much.
Rem: Let's say it now.
Alvia: You don't want to say the pet name.
Alvia: But you're willing to tell the loan amount.
Des: How much?
Alvia: Just say it
Rem: It depends on who's telling the story.
Des: How much?
Rem: It's like this
Rem: Do you know the story?
Alvia: You didn't tell it to me.
Alvia: Your friend told me
Rem: Actually, my friends know my stories
Rem: better than me
Alvia: The first time I met his friends, they already told me
Rem: I'm surprised by their stories about me
Rem: "I'm not aware of those stories."
Alvia: Will bring you next time.
Rem: It's like this
Rem: She liked to travel
Rem: I didn't have money
Rem: So I couldn't join her
Des: But you lent her money.
Rem: Should've used that money instead.
Rem: I should've traveled
Alvia: You should've been the one who's traveling
Rem: But if that happened, there's no podcast like this
Rem: I don't have a story
Des: You should finish the story
Alvia: This is his episode
Rem: When they were talking
Rem: I wasn't butting in.
Des: We have a lot of objections
Alvia: Go ahead.
Rem: I forgot where she went.
Rem: It was like an Asian tour
Rem: By herself, she's brave
Rem: She's just a small woman
Rem: She went there
Rem: She met someone
Des: While traveling
Rem: While traveling
Rem: She was just sharing the story.
Alvia: Because you're best friends
Alvia: Even if they had pet names for each other
Des: They're best friends
Des: Hold on to being "best friends"
Des: "but with pet names"
Rem: So there
Rem: There reached a point
Rem: She said she was short on cash
Rem: She said it's hard
Rem: Because midway through the tour
Rem: Of course
Rem: My memory is very
Rem: Clouded
Rem: But that's how I remember it
Rem: Midway through the tour
Rem: She ran out of money
Rem: She needs the money
Rem: Then I thought
Rem: "You're with someone"
Alvia: Yes
Alvia: She met someone.
Rem: But if you think about it...
Rem: Why would you give money to a stranger?
Des: It makes sense
Rem: Benefit of the doubt
Alvia: We agree, but stranges always treat us.
Alvia: Anyway
Alvia: Anyway
Rem: So I asked
Rem: Of course
Rem: She might not be able to come home
Alvia: You're worried
Rem: Of course
Alvia: Best friend
Rem: She said I'm her best friend
Des: But she has a pet name
Alvia: I can't help but laugh.
Rem: So I sent her money
Rem: How much do you need?
Rem: Guess how much
Alvia: I already know.
Des: 50K?
Alvia: No
Rem: Rich people are different
Rem: I'm embarrassed
Rem: Let's not continue the story
Des: 10K?
Rem: Close. Around 11K.
Alvia: I was told 15K.
Rem: It depends on who's telling the story.
Des: Let's say 15K
Des: But it's too much
Alvia: He was a fresh graduate at the time.
Rem: At that time...
Alvia: How much were you earning?
Rem: I started with only 13K
Des: So it's almost your month's salary.
Rem: That's why
Rem: With deductions
Alvia: It's really hurts
Rem: It's too much
Des: Your net pay is lower
Des: than what you loaned her.
Alvia: Technically
Des: Go on
Alvia: Finish it
Rem: It's my story
Rem: I set up all these
Des: You worked hard
Des: It shouldn't just be us sharing our stories.
Rem: So there
Rem: It's okay
Rem: It's okay
Alvia: She was able to travel
Rem: She's traveled
Rem: She got home
Rem: Eventually
Rem: "You can pay me whenever you can"
Rem: It's a lot
Rem: Eventually
Rem: They ended up together.
Des: Huh?
Rem: She ended up with the guy he met.
Rem: A foreigner
Des: You already know.
Alvia: But there was no
Alvia: support
Alvia: or dollars
Rem: I was a blogger
Rem: You know
Rem: I posted those on my blog
Rem: My blog was sadboi
Des: Really?
Rem: It's sadboi
Rem: with humor
Des: I get it
Rem: But that one time, of course you're mad
Alvia: Of course she owed you a lot of money.
Alvia: then she got a boyfriend.
Alvia: Then you were waiting for a long time.
Des: But this is the thing
Des: Even if they're not official
Des: they have a pet name
Des: She led you on.
Rem: This is Dr. Love
Alvia: She is a psych major
Des: Yes
Des: Actually, that's why I'm invited
Des: to analyze what Rem did
Rem: I'm the romantic type.
Rem: What will I do?
Alvia: I never lend me money
Alvia: even 5k
Des: Lend me money
Rem: I learned my lesson
Rem: I never lent money
Rem: after that
Alvia: If it's me
Alvia: And
Rem: What happened
Rem: I posted
Rem: on the blog
Alvia: You were mad
Rem: It was below the belt
Alvia: You were immature
Des: As in no filter
Rem: But I didn't mention names
Rem: who they are
Rem: Because the guy is German
Rem: Maybe that's why
Rem: you liked him
Rem: Because
Rem: German sausage is big
Alvia: Mature
Alvia: To be fair
Alvia: To be fair
Des: How old were you back then?
Alvia: Early 20s
Alvia: And she owed you money
Alvia: almost 2 months salary
Des: Even if you were not officially dating
Des: Then she was a traveler
Alvia: He was hoping.
Rem: I admit
Rem: it was below the belt
Rem: She got angry
Rem: She said
Rem: "I'll just pay"
Rem: I said, it's yours
Rem: It's yours
Alvia: Do you want that?
Alvia: I like money
Des: It's for Japanese food
Alvia: We like money
Rem: With interest
Rem: Inflation
Rem: How much is it now?
Alvia: It's big
Alvia: Could've used it for leisure.
Des: It's for our ticket
Rem: But
Rem: You're young
Rem: You're proud
Alvia: We have a story like that
Rem: Let's continue that
Rem: In the next episode
Rem: I made this episode all me
Alvia: It's your airtime
Rem: Thank you, guys.
Rem: See you
Rem: On the next episode of my podcast
Rem: Bye guys
You were listening to the DINKWAP Show
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