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As women, we’re constantly asked to do more and be more. And yet, there's incredible strength and wisdom in just "being."
Being present. Being Mama. Simply being you.
This is Leaning into Being. A show brought to you by the Founders and Leaders of Hello Mamas and HeyMama. Erika Hanafin Feldhus, mom, stepmom, CEO, and co-parent hosts alongside Amri Kibbler, mother, founder, and cancer survivor.
Each episode focuses on relatable situations, resources, and experiences to help you balance the beautiful chaos of motherhood and ambition. This show is designed for all mamas seeking community and connection in her definition of success.
Allowing you to simply be…be your all so you can give your all, for all you care about.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:00:00]:
Trust your mom's sense and your dad's sense. I think, you know, it's that inner voice that we all have. So trust that as you're raising your kids, as you're going up the ranks in your career, as you're making memories in your lifetime, just trust that mom sense of yours.
Erika Hanafin Feldhus [00:00:19]:
I'm Erika.
Amri Kibbler [00:00:21]:
And I'm Amri.
Erika Hanafin Feldhus [00:00:22]:
This is Leaning Into Being. The show that allows you to be your all so you can give your all.
Amri Kibbler [00:00:27]:
Brought to you by Hello Mamas and HeyMama.
Erika, we have a really special guest today. We're gonna have our dear friend Kanika Chadda-Gupta on Kanika is a journalist. She's also the host of the ‘That's Total Mom Sense’ podcast. She is a speaker and an emcee, and just an incredible human being.
Erika Hanafin Feldhus [00:00:44]:
I'm so excited, Amri. We love Kanika. And what I'm most excited to hear about from Kanika today is her mother, her journey, her career balance. Clearly, she's had some pivoting her podcast and how she defines success. We're so excited. When we were thinking about who our first guest was gonna be, the first person that came to mind was Kanika. Oh, my gosh.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:01:10]:
Thank you so much. I'm so touched. I am an OG HeyMama and a huge supporter of the two of you, and I feel so at home. It's like, you know, when you found your people, and you guys are my people.
Amri Kibbler [00:01:26]:
Oh, my gosh. I love it. And you've been so supportive of us in this journey to start the podcast. You have definitely handheld me and given, like, so much advice, and so we feel like we've just come full circle being here with you.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:01:40]:
Yes. It's happening. It's happening.
Amri Kibbler [00:01:43]:
High five.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:01:44]:
What is happening? Like, take this in.
Amri Kibbler [00:01:46]:
Take a big, deep breath. Taking it all in. And we're so thrilled to be able to share your story because it is really an incredible, beautiful one. And I'm sure that there are lots of messy moments within that just thinking about you having a career and kids and juggling and all. What was it like for you?
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:02:10]:
Yes. So I would say I've always been this, like, nurturing, mothering type, mother hen, if you will. And I always knew I wanted to be a mom and have a family, and I think this is because a kid, my younger sister is seven years younger, and I feel like I manifested her. My parents were very happy with an only child, and my mom was 42 when she had her, and I was like, I need to have a sister, guys. Like, please, this is. This is getting hard. And so she came along, and I immediately jumped into this, you know, mother role where I knew how to take a bottle and test it on my wrist and feed her or change diapers. Like, that was the whole thing.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:02:57]:
So shortly after Sunil and I got married, I was so gung ho about, we need to have kids. And that took four years, and it was really rough. I think the first messy moment and challenge I was faced with was my ectopic pregnancy. I did not see that coming. I had some chemical pregnancies or miscarriages along the way, and those I felt, like, prepared for, if you will, because it happens to all of us. They're so common. But then the ectopic threw me for a loop, and I actually diagnosed myself with the help of my friend Juhee. If you're listening, she's an OB, and I told her my symptoms in the middle of the night.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:03:44]:
I was like, I have this shooting pain in my left shoulder, and newly pregnant at the time. Something just feels off. And she said, tell me your HCG levels. They were categorically low. She said, I'm sorry to tell you this, but I have a feeling you're having an ectopic pregnancy. And I was like, what is that? And that's when the fetus is growing in one of your fallopian tubes, and it's not viable. You know, it can't progress along. So she said, you have to get that checked out right away because one of your tubes could rupture, and it's fatal.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:04:20]:
And so I went in for my routine blood work, and the nurse was like, you know, you were way too soon for an ultrasound. Like, you don't need one. And I said, but I have this pain in my left shoulder. It could be an ectopic. And that's because the uterine lining is, like, bleeding because the fetus isn't in the uterus, and you feel referral pains in your shoulder, much like when you're having a heart attack. And she was, like, brushing it off. Like, it's probably muscle spasms. You must be working out too much.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:04:51]:
And I literally ran down the hall, found the doctor, and was like, I need this ultrasound now. And same thing. She was, like, poo-pooing. And finally was like, fine, we'll do it. And lo and behold, she did this sonogram, and my uterus was empty. And, oh, my gosh, I just. At that moment, though, I realized we have this built-in 6th sense we have this intuition, and that was my mom sense. It was before I even had kids.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:05:23]:
I was like, it's just, you know, it happens for all humans. We have this inner voice and knowing. But I trusted that and was like, I'm not gonna leave this clinic till I know what's up. So, yeah, I feel like it was Juhi and my intuition that saved my life. And then after that, another fun story. But I really do believe in manifesting. So I had this vision board of a pink booty and a blue booty in the middle, and then I had a sedan and a house and random stuff, places I wanted to travel. And then, lo and behold, a year after that, ectopic, I got pregnant with twins.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:06:01]:
And it was one boy and one girl. And so I look back at that vision board, and I'm like, wow, that was. I made that, I don't know, four years before that, and it just came to life. And then 18 months later, I had my third. So when my twins were nine months old, I got pregnant with my third, which was like a. Oh, you know, expletive moment.
Amri Kibbler [00:06:29]:
Yeah.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:06:31]:
Wait, but then, yeah, I mean, I feel, you know, it was what I wanted in the beginning, and I got what I signed up for.
Amri Kibbler [00:06:41]:
Can we go double-click into a little? Like, what was those early days like? What was it like to have two toddlers and a newborn?
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:06:49]:
Oh, my God.
Amri Kibbler [00:06:50]:
And trying to manage your career?
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:06:52]:
Yes.
Amri Kibbler [00:06:53]:
Were you still a journalist at that point?
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:06:54]:
Yeah. So at that time, I had started a digital marketing firm, and I knew, like, I was family planning for a while, so I knew I wanted to pivot from television and production to having my own business. So I did that beforehand. But, like, the first thing that I took when my water broke and, you know, this was with the twins. My husband wasn't even there. I grabbed my laptop.
Amri Kibbler [00:07:20]:
Yeah.
Erika Hanafin Feldhus [00:07:21]:
Oh, my goodness.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:07:22]:
No, I'm serious. And, you know, they did have some at the NICU, and there was a lot of downtime where I was in the room alone, and I was like, I'm so glad I brought this. You know, I got some calls out of the way. People didn't. I was writing back to emails, and people knew I was huge, that they were like, you know, any day now, it was a few weeks out that I'd write back, and they were like, wait a minute. Did you have your twins already? And I was like, oh, yeah, that was, like, a few weeks ago. And they were like, wait a minute. What? I was like, yeah, but you were working on that logo and I needed to get it to you.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:07:55]:
Yeah, I was just head down, and I think that was for me, though. That was for my sanity. I wanted to, of course, have this family. But when you love your career, it doesn't feel like work. It doesn't feel like this chore that you have to do. So I was working throughout, and, yeah, it was messy.
Erika Hanafin Feldhus [00:08:17]:
I mean, it sounds like natural nurturer, incredible manifesto. You brought all of this together. But let's talk about the emotional side. How did you cope with all of those feelings, the overwhelm? Like, what was that like for you?
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:08:36]:
Yes.
Erika Hanafin Feldhus [00:08:36]:
And how did you cope?
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:08:37]:
Yeah, I had so many breakdowns and then breakthroughs. I definitely felt like I had some level of postpartum depression. It wasn't something that was diagnosed. Even though I went for. I was always seeing my Ob. I was, like, constantly just having babies. So it was something that I was very vocal with her about. And though I didn't have to go on a medication, talk therapy is what saved me.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:09:07]:
So I got a therapist that I saw regularly, but even before that, because this was pre-COVID, before we did telehealth and all things, like virtual. So my pediatrician actually gave me a hotline, a free hotline that was for postpartum moms. And it was, like, a free hotline for those who felt like they had PPD. PPA. And you could just vent. And I had this really sweet, you know, a woman who had answered the phone. Her name was Pat, and she had a British accent. And after, like, our first two calls, I was like, when is your shift? Cause I'm just gonna pencil this in, you know.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:09:54]:
Is it Wednesdays? 930? Great. I will always call at Wednesday. It's 930 because she was a lifeline to me. And it was, you know, I would be ugly crying about, like, we had to go somewhere, and then I had to pump, and then I was really pissed at my husband, and, like, you know, and then this one had to blowout and, like, you know, I'm fat and I feel like shit, and I just, you know, I have work to do, and this is, like, how is this my life right now, you know, like, all this stuff? And I, like, God bless her for listening to all of that, but I think we all need an outlet, and that could be someone on the other end of a hotline who has time. And I didn't call so many of my mom friends because I knew they were in the thick of or in the trenches of their own motherhood journey, you know, and I just felt like I can't call them at bewitching hour. They're busy. So just having counselor or who, you know is going to be able to pick up the phone, like, definitely use that and talk to your pediatrician and your ob about these things. Cause they have resources.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:11:01]:
I had a whole printout, and then, you know, it was also like, join the la Leche league if you want to talk about breastfeeding. And so there were so many communities to be a part of. And, HeyMama was another big savior in my life. It was after I had my third that I joined, and I just felt like, oh, my goodness, what was I doing all this time without these, like, just supporters, lifelong friends, business colleagues, moms who just get it in my life. Like, you. You're so lost until you find that tribe.
Erika Hanafin Feldhus [00:11:40]:
We love that. And that's really, truly what we're also building at scale with Hello Mamas is really, truly creating an inclusive, supportive network for all moms. And that it's so important, gives us goosebumps to hear that.
Amri Kibbler [00:11:58]:
It's so true. The most important factor for women's happiness is really having those people around you that you can trust and you feel like you can be yourself with and knowing that you feel safe. Let's talk about your podcast. So how did you start That’s Total Mom Sense? What was your inspiration for that?
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:12:19]:
Sure. So that came to me as I was nursing my third. And I remember listening to podcasts. It was always when I was pumping or nursing, I just. I felt like I needed to be doing something, and I didn't want to hear, like, the whirring. Oh, that dreaded noise.
Amri Kibbler [00:12:43]:
I feel like that thing somehow, though, it really did, like, create creativity somehow with so many moms, it's like. And you're like, okay, idea, idea.
Erika Hanafin Feldhus [00:12:54]:
Right.
Amri Kibbler [00:12:55]:
Because so many ideas came from that.
Erika Hanafin Feldhus [00:12:57]:
Point when you're so true.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:12:59]:
Yeah.
Erika Hanafin Feldhus [00:12:59]:
So true.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:13:00]:
Yeah. And it's hormonally, it's like, maybe we're just really, like, literally plugged in. Like, we're just plugged into ourselves, and what?
Amri Kibbler [00:13:07]:
Our body was sucking everything out of me.
Erika Hanafin Feldhus [00:13:11]:
Sucking it all out.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:13:14]:
Oh, my gosh. Yes. So that I would listen to podcasts. And at that time, my favorite was mom Brain with Daphne Oz and Hilaria Baldwin. And I was like, this is really fun. And I just thought I'd love to enter this space because coming from my experience as a journalist, I could make it a little more newsy and. And then have these long-form interviews with my guests. And, you know, I just think back to when I was ten-year-old Kanika.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:13:42]:
I would run home from the bus to watch Oprah. It was like ritual for me. I would finish my homework. 04:00 yes, Oprah was it. And I still have a photographic memory. So, like, a lot of her interviews are just indelible in my mind. I'm like, I remember Tom Cruise jumping on the couch and Gwyneth Paltrow. And whether it was an ex con or movie star, she would be able to bring out their vulnerability.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:14:11]:
And I thought, I want to do that. And so I launched That’s Total Mom Sense and it just came to me. That also came to me randomly, but in the shower, it's like mom sense.
Erika Hanafin Feldhus [00:14:22]:
Best thoughts are in the shower.
Amri Kibbler [00:14:23]:
I know, in the shower, pumping, pumping in the shower.
Erika Hanafin Feldhus [00:14:26]:
But you've had so many diverse women and guests and can you share how you've chosen your guests and the impact and, like, your hope for all those conversations that you've had?
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:14:39]:
Yes. Yes. Well, I have to give a shout out to HeyMama again because it was through an email, actually an ISO email, that I found one of my first few guests. I feel like she was my 6th or 7th guest, Rebecca Minkoff. And I was writing an email about, I was truly asking for a friend. My neighbor wanted a behavioral therapist for her son, and Rebecca wrote back. And then I was like, I have this podcast and I would love to have you on. Don't want to be too forward, but I'm a big fan and I would love to have you on.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:15:20]:
She was like, absolutely. She got the assistant on the email and we filmed in person in the city, and it just, things just kind of took off from there because she could see how diligent and thorough I was as an interviewer and podcaster, and everything was really buttoned up with the show. I think the fact that I had the digital marketing firm first, which was a pivot in my career, set me up. It's like you can't connect the dots going forward. You can only connect them. Looking back, as Steve Jobs said, I was like, wow, I needed that step to be like, I had all my personal branding for this show because that's what I did for five years. And then I launched it so she could see that. And then I also asked, are there any friends you'd recommend to be on the show? And so she put me in touch with her friend Rachel Goldstein, Nikao Camoche Grico, and it just snowballed from there.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:16:20]:
And then I also had a PR person I worked with, icon PR Heather Bessignano, if you're listening. She helped me get Chelsea Clinton on the show, which was huge. And I interviewed her for HeyMama. Yeah. Mothers in Business Summit. So I think there's, like, a multi-pronged approach. It's you being very kind of tasteful in asking your guests who else in your network can you put me in touch with? But also the PR side of things when you get a lot of press. I was in Forbes then.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:16:55]:
Now people were writing to me and sending their pitches and even some news segments, you know, kind of drummed up some traffic to the show. And then, yeah, I think topical is also important. So if you have something that you uniquely want to share on your show, you don't have to be, you know, too obsessed with, like, the celebrity appeal. I feel like it has to be a mix of both and that, too. I think you have to be diligent with your outreach. Find that guest, like, look at that byline, find them on Instagram or LinkedIn and just message directly. You'd be surprised how many people are ever ready to talk about their lives.
Amri Kibbler [00:17:38]:
That's so beautiful. You know, you've shared with us quite a few things that can be the definition of success with your podcast and incredible thought leaders that you've had on and interviewed and your agency. How has your definition of success changed as you've become a mom and, you know, through these different stages of your journey that you've been through?
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:18:01]:
I think success, to me, is living with purpose and being true to myself and my intention. I want to share a quote from Oprah, our queen mother. Love Oprah.
Erika Hanafin Feldhus [00:18:17]:
I love Oprah.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:18:18]:
She said, you will find success and happiness if you only have one goal, to fulfill the highest, truest expression of yourself. And I think that's so profound. If you are waking up every morning raring to go, knowing that you're spending your energy and your blood, sweat, tears, soul on something that you love and you excel at and you're meant to do, like, your true calling. In Hindi, we have this word, Dharma. Dharma is your life calling. If you are pursuing that, you will 100% inevitably, like, indubitably find happiness and success.
Erika Hanafin Feldhus [00:19:01]:
I love that. And so for our listeners and those mothers who are looking to redefine it, what would be, like, those first few steps that they should go through? I mean, you've got this practice. You've got this experience. Like, what would be something for our listeners to start with? How would they go finding that dharma?
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:19:23]:
Yes. Vision boards help. I really have to. It's a little woo woo. But I'm telling you, there's just an energy in them that if you have a magazine cut out or a slogan or a photo or a place you want to visit, whatever it may be some goal that you have in your life, if it's just sitting on your desk, it's subliminal, it's happening without you even thinking about it. So I think make a vision board. Or even if you wanted to write down what your goals are, and this could be bite size. What's your goal for today? What's your goal for the week, then the quarter, then the year, then your five and ten year plan? And that actually is so encompassing.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:20:06]:
It's your goal for your career, your family life, and what you want that to be your romantic life, your community, and, you know, where you want to travel, whatever it may be. I think it's like all the little things that you want to see happen have that written down or presented to you. William Kelvin, who is a mathematician, said, what is not measured cannot be improved. So you'll never get to this, like, idyllic utopia that you're hoping for until you measure your success along the way. And it's like, okay, I needed to record this podcast episode today, or you're preparing for slam, and it's like, I have this task list. Write it down, cross it off and say that I need to attain this many tasks in a day and complete them. Like, start small and do that. And if you kind of have a quarterly review and then a yearly review, you'll be surprised by all that you achieved.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:21:09]:
And I think we undermine ourselves so much. Like, you look back on 2022 and it's like, what did I really do? I mean, I don't know. But then if you see that in front of you, like, wow, I did this many conferences and I, you know, like had this many birthdays that I planned for the kids and, you know, events that I did, you will feel so proud of yourself.
Amri Kibbler [00:21:30]:
Well, and I think it, and Erika and I really try to take some time because things go by so quickly and you're just doing, doing, doing, doing, take some time every quarter to sit down and make a list of all the things that we've accomplished and all the things that we've been through, whether they're big things or little things. And, like, looking at that list, we're always like, wow, okay. We are blown away with the impact and all that we've done. Whereas, you know, sometimes when you're in the day to day to things, like, it can get overwhelming. And as you were saying, it's like you have the vision board for when you're looking forward, but it's really great to have that list when you're looking back and reflecting, when you're reflecting on, you know, the things that you have achieved and what you've done. Is there anything that you would do differently or that you, you know, that you wish that you had known on your journey?
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:22:23]:
Oh, wow. You know, I'm really trying to, like, give myself grace and, like, embrace those mistakes. And I do think that, you know, when you stumble or when things don't work out as you want, I truly believe in my heart. It's like there's a bigger yes coming yes. That's why I love that.
Erika Hanafin Feldhus [00:22:46]:
But it's so hard when you're like, you do all of those things. I love vision board and actually a very funny story about a vision board that I created now, ten years ago, and it really finally just started happening. But that's the thing where you're like, the patience. We're so used to everything happening overnight and that's a part of the practice. Yeah, but on that, let's talk about your self practice. We hear as mothers, like, you've got to put your oxygen mask on first and, you know, to be able to serve and do all of these things. You want the career, you want the podcast, you want all of these things.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:23:24]:
Yeah.
Erika Hanafin Feldhus [00:23:24]:
What is your self care practice?
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:23:27]:
Yes. I say something to myself every morning. I look in the mirror and say this, whether I'm brushing my teeth or like, if it's later on and I'm, you know, putting my makeup on, but I like to make eye contact. Like, look straight into my eyes and say, I'm a happy soul. I have a healthy body. My relationships are in harmony. My work is perfect, my life is beautiful, and it's something that I learned from. It's a group called Brahma Kumaris, and they are very attuned to spiritualism and leading with the soul.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:24:06]:
And so I was like, wow. Just having something as, like, concise as that, it covers everything and it's just what you want to hear as you start your day. So, yeah, I think affirmations are huge and we don't connect with ourselves enough.
Erika Hanafin Feldhus [00:24:24]:
Yeah, it's true. It's very true.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:24:26]:
We like, very true. Make eye contact with one another and are always hugging our kids and, you know, it's like, I think it's so important to look at yourself and see how far you've come. If you really connect, you can go back and see almost like your six year old self looking back at you and like, she's so proud right now. She's so proud.
Amri Kibbler [00:24:54]:
Oh, my gosh. It's so true. And like, as moms and nurturers, we're always giving and supporting, supporting our families and our kids and those around us. And what you said is so powerful about the importance of taking time to connect with yourself, to give back to yourself. Give yourself some self-compassion and some grace and love and telling yourself that you're doing a great job. There's just so much power in that. It's beautiful.
Amri Kibbler [00:25:21]:
So we've heard all about your journey, your career, your motherhood story. What is next for you? What's next for the podcast? What do you have on the horizon?
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:25:31]:
Yeah, so many things. I mean, the podcast is always going to be there. I feel like that doesn't feel like work. So every week, without fail, there's an episode, and I'm over 250 episodes now. Wow.
Erika Hanafin Feldhus [00:25:47]:
Oh, my goodness.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:25:48]:
Thank you. And, yeah, it just feels amazing to look back on them. I have a book in the works, so, yes, we'll regroup when that happens. But I think it's something that, again, is this outpour where I want to be able to impart everything that I'm learning from these incredible people and their stories. And it's just like I want to just memorialize it all in a book. And there's always going to be the podcast listener that just has something in their earbuds and they like the audio. But then there's our avid readers out there that want to connect in that way. So that's on the horizon.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:26:28]:
And I'm doing a lot more keynote speaking and panel moderation and emceeing because I love connecting with people in person. And so just going around the country for speaking engagements has been really fun.
Amri Kibbler [00:26:44]:
Absolutely. And I know that we have loved having you as a speaker and a moderator, so I can vouch for what an incredible, authentic personality you are being in that space. And you're also the leader of our new women in media group, which we are very excited about. So it's like an incredible space where you can be able to support other women in media and help to connect and bring women together.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:27:10]:
Yes. Yes. It's an honor. I'm so thrilled that you have me in this role where I can give back and paying it forward is really, really important to me. And uplifting women, especially in my industry, we're always having to roll with the punches. It's constantly changing. I think media is most evolving. Back when we were kids, I still remember how my dad still gets the Washington Post at the door, and the paper boy just throws it onto your front porch.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:27:45]:
And now how we've, you know, changed and how we're consuming media now. We need all those content creators and contributors to go with that and actually, like, provide us with the news and the stories that we consume. And so to lead on that, I get to connect with mamas who are in podcasting, of course, but who are still in print or in digital or are in filmmaking. And it's, you know, just so wonderful and remarkable to see how talented these women are in their fields. And the fact that we can gather and help one another out so that we all shine is, like, amazing. Next level.
Amri Kibbler [00:28:32]:
It's amazing. And as I was also a woman in media, sometimes it can feel very siloed. Right. And it's an industry where it is so important to have the right connections and to have a community around you.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:28:44]:
Yes, yes. And we're changing the narrative because I feel like, you know, there's, back in the day, there was a lot more girl on girl crying.
Amri Kibbler [00:28:53]:
Yes, a lot. It was like, elbow, elbow out of the way.
Erika Hanafin Feldhus [00:28:57]:
No, yes. That's coming full circle, I think. I really do firmly believe that that's coming now. As more women rise up and as more women are climbing, they're hopefully lifting.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:29:10]:
Yes, exactly. Exactly.
Erika Hanafin Feldhus [00:29:12]:
Well, Kanika, it has been incredible having you on. We could go for hours, I think, and we get to. We're fortunate we get to spend another day with you.
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:29:20]:
Yes. I'm so excited to come back.
Erika Hanafin Feldhus [00:29:22]:
But what would one final thought be for our listeners?
Kanika Chadda-Gupta [00:29:25]:
Yeah, I would say trust your mom's sense and your, and your dad's sense. I think, you know, it's that inner voice that we all have. And so, so many times we second guess we have imposter syndrome. We're like, no, no, no. I'm gonna just do what my friend does. And it's so inauthentic, your body won't even be able to, like, let you follow through. So trust that as you're raising your kids, as you're going up the ranks in your career, as you're making memories in your lifetime, just trust that mom sense of yours.
Amri Kibbler [00:30:05]:
Thank you for listening to Leaning Into Being.
Erika Hanafin Feldhus [00:30:07]:
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