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What do you do when the bottom drops out and life breaks in ways you never imagined? Charlie and Jill LeBlanc have walked that road, and through their personal story of loss, they’ve discovered the sustaining power of God's presence. In this podcast, they offer heartfelt conversations, Scripture-based encouragement, and the kind of hope that only comes from experience. Whether you're grieving, struggling, or searching for peace in the middle of chaos, this space is for you.
Welcome to the Finding Hope Podcast. We're Charlie and Jill LeBlanc, and we're so glad you've joined us here today.
Charlie LeBlanc:Yes.
Jill LeBlanc:We have another really special guest today and we are so excited to bring her on. She is just a very dear friend for many years and she has a story to tell so,
Charlie LeBlanc:would
Jill LeBlanc:you like to say a little bit about
Charlie LeBlanc:Yeah, our you know, we've known Geri and her husband, Clifton, for so long. I mean, can't even remember, you'll probably remember Geri, after we introduce you. We're going give you a formal introduction here in a minute. But, back in the early days, anyway, I'm starting. But anyway, bottom line is they've been pastors.
Charlie LeBlanc:They've been writers. They've written so many books and
Jill LeBlanc:soul winners.
Charlie LeBlanc:Dear friends. We've got a lot of history together. So, we just want to introduce our guest, Geri Coulter.
Jill LeBlanc:Yeah, yeah, yes.
Charlie LeBlanc:Everybody clap in the audience.
Jill LeBlanc:Thanks so much for joining us here, Jerry.
Charlie LeBlanc:Yeah. So, you know, as I was saying, Jerry, maybe you can help me a little bit with the history. Do you remember when we first met? Were we traveling and ministered in your church or was it at ministers conferences?
Geri Coulter:I'm sure we met at the ministers conference in Colorado.
Charlie LeBlanc:So that was, you think when?
Geri Coulter:Mid eighties. Bo was about four or five. Okay.
Jill LeBlanc:So right around '19
Geri Coulter:Yeah. Ninety first time you came to our church, you brought the kids. And, he was little and him and Cody had a good time. Yeah.
Charlie LeBlanc:Awesome. Yeah. Well, are some fond memories, being in your in Indiana, wasn't it? When we first came and visited you guys. And then the Lord led you guys to Southern Missouri to begin a church there, and we visited there a few times.
Charlie LeBlanc:But, but, your husband, Clifton, we were very, very close with him, and, very a lot of fun memories, some funny and yet some
Jill LeBlanc:I have a memory
Charlie LeBlanc:of the horror story.
Jill LeBlanc:So Clifton was a horseman.
Geri Coulter:Yes. Cowboy. An authentic cowboy. Okay.
Jill LeBlanc:So he and their son Kelly, they were doing horse things together. And Clifton was so proud of his horses. And I remember one day he presented a photo to me of a I guess it was a newer baby, but was maybe half grown. I don't know the names for all that. But he was just so proud of this horse.
Jill LeBlanc:And he showed me a picture, and it was a paint. Is that the kind of horse it was? And so, you know, they're kind of blotchy and
Geri Coulter:Uh-huh. Blotchy.
Jill LeBlanc:And so I just, I looked at it and said, what's so beautiful about that horse? Or something like that. Oh my gosh, he got so offended. He never let me live it down. And it was just something funny.
Charlie LeBlanc:He always joked with you about it.
Geri Coulter:That's what he was like. He never forgot anything like that with people. Yes.
Charlie LeBlanc:Well, you know, Geri, we have an audience that listens to the podcast and, you know, our heart is to help them, as I shared with you before we started, to encourage those who have had losses and to see us and to see people like yourselves that have been through traumatic loss. It just strengthens people. It helps people to see. As we were before the pi I want to let you talk I'm just gonna cut you loose in few minutes, but you just said before we started that when we lost Beau, that you guys came to the funeral and just, I guess months before that, there was a fire and Clifton's brother was killed in the fire. And and I remember how tragic that was.
Charlie LeBlanc:And you said that when when you came to the funeral, I said, well, if you guys can make it through that tragedy, then we can make it through the tragedy of losing Beau. And I had no idea what I was saying at the time because the the pain of the journey as we started to walk through that was harder than we ever dreamed it could be. And and yet you guys were in the middle of that as well. So I just wanna cut you loose and just tell us your story. Tell tell us, you know, about the losses and and and what you've been through, and and, you know, we'll go from there.
Charlie LeBlanc:So
Geri Coulter:Thank you. Well, when you first invited me to do this, I thought, I don't know if I'm making it. You know? You wanted me to talk about how I'm making it, and some days I'm not sure I am making it. But there you know, I I just was jotting down before before I knew we were gonna start this.
Geri Coulter:Only this morning, I actually, was going back over some things that of why I'm still standing, why I'm still breathing. You know? I do show up places that I'm supposed to be. You know what I mean? I I I still I go to church.
Geri Coulter:I am in the word, which the main reason I've made it is, of course, the word. It's the word. God giving me scriptures and, friends, of course. And then I did want to, to mention, and this may seem strange and I didn't clear this with you, but my animals. You know, I didn't realize what a blessing our little dog was.
Geri Coulter:Clifton and I had her. You know, she was 15 years old. She could still run, and she could see and hear and had her teeth. She was like a young dog, but she was 15. And she developed, in July, this past July, just water around her heart, and, and she passed away.
Geri Coulter:I had her to the vet twice that day, but she still passed away. And, so the next day because she set the tone. She set the tone for my day. She slept with me, so when her feet hit the floor, that's when we got up. You know?
Geri Coulter:And I took her everywhere with me. I have a little Miata convertible, which was a reflex buy. That little I bought that, and I I ride around in that, and I would have my little dog. Well, she wasn't there. And I realized what a void she had filled.
Geri Coulter:And, I didn't want any other animals. Everyone wanted me to get an animal. Oh, mama, we've got this dog for you. And I just didn't want to do that. But I I used to and I didn't make fun of people who were depressed, but I didn't believe.
Geri Coulter:I couldn't believe anyone could be depressed once they were born again.
Charlie LeBlanc:You know
Geri Coulter:what I mean? Right. And filled with the Holy Ghost. And these women would come to me depressed like they had they had a great husband. They had plenty of money.
Geri Coulter:They didn't have financial problems. They were healthy. They had these beautiful children. And these women would sit in my office and tell me how depressed they were. And I couldn't ever give it because I'm a happy person.
Geri Coulter:I've never been the same since I got filled with Holy Ghost. I've never been the same. I was saved. I was born again for seven years. But then stuff happened, we got filled with the Holy Ghost, and I just have never been the same.
Jill LeBlanc:What age were you then?
Geri Coulter:I was 29 when I got filled with the Holy Ghost. Yep.
Charlie LeBlanc:And what year did y'all get married, Deborah? Were you getting ready to say that?
Geri Coulter:Yeah. We got married in '68 and we were two years without the Lord. And I'll get back to my animal story as I go. We were two years without the Lord, and we were on the brink of divorce. We had a baby.
Geri Coulter:I didn't wanna leave because of the baby. My dad had told me I couldn't come home. He said once I got married, he said, now you're married now. Don't think we're gonna rent your room out because we're not we're not gonna have, you coming back here. And he didn't mean it probably, but I thought I can't go home.
Geri Coulter:I was just gonna kill myself one night, actually. Wow. And and the Lord showed up. I just he just showed up. And, anyway, that's a lot a longer story than I wanna spend time on today.
Geri Coulter:But I got saved. And the next day I went to church.
Charlie LeBlanc:Geri, before you go before you go further, I I wanna make clear to the audience that if because I we talked a lot about this before, and now that we're on camera, I wanna make sure we forget that we already talked about it, but you guys have been were pastors for over forty years together. Yes. You you've been in ministry for fifty plus years, evangelizing, and and your husband passed away. Now what year was that?
Geri Coulter:2021.
Charlie LeBlanc:2021. So I just want the audience to understand how fresh that loss is. You know, the loss of your husband was traumatic. And you both were pastoring this amazing church and all of sudden he's gone. And he was the bedrock of your life.
Charlie LeBlanc:He was everything for you. Yes. I think as we get into this story more, and we've got plenty of time, don't feel rushed, but I just want there's a lot of widows that listen. And, you know, they just they need to know that how you struggled and what helps you, but like you've started some of that stuff. But yeah, these secondary losses, like the loss of a, of your dog who was so close to you, he, the dog probably helped you so much after after Clipton passed.
Charlie LeBlanc:Right?
Geri Coulter:The dog did help me, but I didn't realize it until she was gone. I didn't realize it. This house became a tomb. I mean, because she was lively, little lovey. She she didn't act like an old dog at all.
Geri Coulter:She was very lively. So what I was gonna say about that situation was everyone wanted me to get another one, I I I said no. But then my grandson walked in one day, and this is important. You know, I was thinking about this before the broadcast, and this is important for someone watching today. But I kept saying no, no more animals, nothing, no.
Geri Coulter:And I'm not a cat person. I have had a cat, and I loved her, Molly. But I'm not I didn't want a cat. We have barn cats, but I didn't want a cat in the house. Well, my grandson was out in the woods one day, and this little kitten was, following its mom.
Geri Coulter:You could tell he said the mother was trying to wean the kitten. And she had teeth and stuff, the little kitten. But he picked her up. She'd never even seen a human. She'd never, you know, been held, but he picked her up and brought her into the living room here and put her on my lap.
Geri Coulter:And I said, no. No. Absolutely not. Every day they came up and they said, what's her name? What's her name?
Geri Coulter:I said, I'm not naming this kitten because I don't want it. I can't. No. Absolutely not. Long story short, of course, Ellie Mae now is quite a part of my little family here.
Geri Coulter:And but here's what God and I know and I know that god just dropped her in my lap right out of heaven because she just nobody can take Lovey's place, but she acts like Lovey did, which is a mere I mean, she follows me every step I take. She lays on my feet at the sink and has really helped me. And I wrote this down for widows who you know, get an animal. Get you an animal. Yeah.
Geri Coulter:Yeah. Even if you're not an animal lover. Because I'm not a cat lover, but I love that little Ellie Mae.
Charlie LeBlanc:Well, our two really close friends of ours who have lost their husbands, both of them, have one of them has a little dog that she's had for years, Linda. And then Teri had a dog that was getting old and still has the dog, but then she just got a new one, a little one that's like crazy. And, you know, she's got her grandkids as well, but she's got this little one. But I think it's kind of a holy distraction. It's companionship.
Charlie LeBlanc:It's just another body in the home. And I think that Jill and I didn't experience as the loss of Beau, the pain, although the pain of that's beyond words, but we've, we've, most of our friends have lost a spouse and, and more than children. We have a few that have lost children, but we're learning more about the loneliness, the emptiness, and having to do everything yourself that your husband did, paying the bills and handling everything. I can't even imagine what you've been through in this situation.
Geri Coulter:I know. And that was one of the main things. I mean, he took care of everything. I mean, now when we got ready for a trip, which we traveled all over the world, I did everything there. I did everything getting ready for the trip.
Geri Coulter:His his job in the trips was walking to the truck, getting behind the wheel, you know, and taking us to the airport or or, to the place we were gonna minister. Once I got in the truck, I was home free. I could read my you know, do anything I wanted to, but I did everything in getting ready, even his I mean, everything. So so I do have to drive to where I go and minister now or like, I'm taking the train now to Kansas City. That's really a blessing.
Geri Coulter:But he did every I mean, we live on a little farm. You guys have been out here. We've got a little mini farm. We've got a barn and, almost nine acres. 8.8 acres, I found out after we bought the place, which eight is god's number for new beginnings.
Jill LeBlanc:Oh, right. Alright.
Geri Coulter:Yes. I've got that explained in my Rose Will Bloom Again, your Rose Will Bloom Again book. I talk about that.
Charlie LeBlanc:Beautiful. One of many that we want to talk about before we close.
Geri Coulter:Yes. So let me go back and clean up some loose ends here that we were talking about in the beginning. So we got born again. I was 22. He was '26.
Geri Coulter:And we were he we I mean, that solved our divorce problems because we had Jesus then. We didn't ever think about a divorce until years later, which that's my story in the book. But, anyway, we loved the Lord, and we he was so excited and began to win souls. And we did everything in that church that we could possibly do. I mean, everything.
Geri Coulter:I was on the flower and social committee. I was on the finance committee. I did the bulletin. I did anything that I was head of the women. He was head of the men.
Geri Coulter:He did everything he could do too, and it was just still not enough. We always felt like we couldn't ever do enough. And long story short, we got filled with the holy ghost. That's a long story. It that's in my go rose of one again.
Geri Coulter:It's in this book right here. God filled Holy Ghost. And then, oh my, get out of town. I mean, this is when I realized how real god is. You know?
Geri Coulter:And so I'll get to the point, here. We we served in the church. After we got filled with the Holy Ghost, we had to start our own church in Indiana because the denominational church we were in ignored us, acted like we were invisible. So people started coming to our home, you know, to get healed. And he started with the healing.
Geri Coulter:He just started praying for people. They were healed. So we ended up starting a church. And, we had the church then, in Indiana for seventeen years. During that time, our kids were growing up.
Geri Coulter:We had Christian school. And, our oldest son, Kelly, was he was also an authentic cowboy. Clifton used to call people who would wear a hat or just wear the boots, he'd say, oh, that's a dime store cowboy. But he, before we got married and even after we got married, him and his two brothers had a quarter horse farm in Indiana near Paoli, Indiana, Hardensburg. And they raised and trained and bred, and sold quarter horses.
Geri Coulter:So he trained Kelly in that, and Kelly knew all of that. So Clifton and Kelly had a business together. They talked every day. I didn't talk to him every single day, but the night before he was tragically killed and this is another way that God God is there. You know what I mean?
Geri Coulter:You know? And the night before he got killed in this tragic tractor accident, I had not talked to him for a couple of months. Now he talked to his dad every day, but I I didn't talk to him. He called me that night on Friday night, and I sat out on my deck, and we had one hour of me and him just talk we talked about everything.
Charlie LeBlanc:Wow.
Geri Coulter:He had divorced his the boys' mother. He has four boys. He had divorced their mother and married someone else. And it was not a good situation. And he said to me, mom, my boys hate me.
Geri Coulter:And I was able to minister to him in such a way, and I knew he was receiving it. But we had this conversation, and the last thing he said to me, he said, mom, I love you, mom, and tell daddy I love him. He called me daddy.
Charlie LeBlanc:Oh my goodness.
Geri Coulter:So then Saturday, we got that call. Now that
Charlie LeBlanc:What year was that, Geri? Sorry.
Jill LeBlanc:It
Geri Coulter:was 2010.
Charlie LeBlanc:2010.
Jill LeBlanc:It was a year and a half after Bo.
Geri Coulter:October 2010. And, now during this loss, this was our oldest son, we had each other. You know, we had each other to muddle through that, which Clifton never got over it. I would look over him in his recliner, and they I would see tears just running down his face. And and I knew I used to at first, I would say, what's wrong, honey?
Geri Coulter:I thought maybe he was in pain or something. And he would just talk about Kelly. He would wake up in the night crying in the bed, you know, over Kelly. So and I never got over it either. You know, we don't get over it, do we?
Charlie LeBlanc:Sure. You don't get over it.
Geri Coulter:We don't get over it. And people say, oh, gets better. Well, I'm not really even sure about that. In ways, yes. Time does have a way of softening blows that Yeah.
Geri Coulter:Initially would just put you under. But I had him for that for that loss. And, it was very difficult, and it still is. It still is. But then when my husband died and it was, you know, he just got sick one day, and one week later he was gone.
Geri Coulter:In a hospital that would not let me in, this was the COVID days when you couldn't go in. Right. And I talk about it in my grief book. I wrote this book, and I didn't even know what to say. One of the chapters, god's rescue plan over in the middle of about page 36, the chapter is one month in the life of a widow.
Geri Coulter:So I thought that I would just take a month. I took the month of January 2024, and I just wrote every day, a scripture because how a widow how anybody gets through anything, and especially today we're talking about widows and losing a child. The only way you do that is thinking about the lord and and constant you know, getting in the word of god, finding the word of god. A lot of women I talked to, and I've talked to a lot of widows, you know, since this has happened. And, most of them tell me most say, well, I just I don't I can't I don't have the heart to even get into the bible.
Geri Coulter:I don't wanna read it. I don't wanna and yet that that's where the hope is. That's where the strength is, is the word of God. And he gave me a couple of scriptures. I jotted these down just this morning before we came on.
Geri Coulter:Zephaniah one seven. Now you might say, what's in Zephaniah? I mean, even me. The Lord led me to this. And then I thought, Zephaniah, what's that?
Geri Coulter:Give me Ephesians. You know? I want Colossians. But it says here, and this is so powerful, if it hits your heart, be silent. Number one, the way God talks to me is shut up.
Geri Coulter:Be silent in the presence of the Lord God. And I spent a lot of time after I found this. I understood. Because as you're sitting, being silent in the presence of the Lord, not in your grief, not in thinking about what could have been, should have been. I should have done this.
Geri Coulter:Why didn't I do this? And self you know, you guilt. You know, I wish I had done things differently with my husband. I wish I had, but you can't dwell on that and see widows do. I wish if I had done this, that wouldn't have happened.
Geri Coulter:No. That has to stop or with my son. You know? You think but you can't dwell there because it's harmful. And it's harmful not only to your mind, but to your flesh.
Geri Coulter:So be silent. So I would just sit and think about the Lord and think about you know, try to think on the good things. And, it helped me, really, really helped me to just be silent. And then the other scripture was Isaiah twenty six three. We all know this one.
Geri Coulter:Isaiah was talking to God, he said, you keep him in perfect peace whose mind is stayed on you. So we gotta stay our mind on the things of the Lord because it's so easy. Unless we are deliberately doing that, it's so easy to get it over into what's gonna happen to me. You know, because Clifton and I, like you guys, we we worked together. We were together.
Charlie LeBlanc:Right.
Geri Coulter:I was pastor too of the church. And, when he passed away, I pictured myself unconsciously. This isn't something I consciously thought, but I just figured I'd pastor that church till the day I died. You know? I never had any another man never enter my mind.
Geri Coulter:It would never enter my mind to think of someone else or anything like that. I was just gonna, you know, be like Anna in the bible, just hang out at the church. And so I was doing that, but then God began to shift things around, and it was him because I would have never and I passed the torch. You know, you've heard of the passing of the torch. Well, I passed the torch to my two youngest children.
Geri Coulter:And Clifton and I and it took me a while to remember this, you know, and I'm still, you know, almost five years later remembering things. But I remembered, as as the two were getting ready to take over, we had already decided that we were gonna be phasing out, not retirement. We would still be, like, over the church, but we were training Cody to be the pastor of the church. Now remember who Cody is, for those of you who don't know. We had this child when I was nearly 40, and so the rest of the kids were teenagers and getting ready leave the house.
Geri Coulter:So we raised him like an only child, really. And, he was spoiled. I mean, if you can spoil him. I don't think you spoil him by loving him, but I think you do spoil him by not disciplining them. But we tried to discipline him.
Geri Coulter:But, anyway, he long story short, he got on drugs. And for fifteen years, ten, real heavy. Ten was heavy duty years of him on drugs, and he ended up in prison. So he was in prison, until eight years ago. He got out eight years ago and has been on target ever since.
Geri Coulter:He got delivered in the jail cell in County Jail before he went to hardcore prison. He got delivered.
Charlie LeBlanc:Praise god.
Geri Coulter:That's He'd been in rehab three times and came out and relapsed. Three times. I wanna encourage mothers right now who are praying for your kids, and you you are hopeless. I got hopeless with it. Cody's testimony is that my mom never gave up on me.
Geri Coulter:And I told him, I said, Cody, I wouldn't I don't know if I could say that if I was you because I kinda did give up on you a
Charlie LeBlanc:couple times. Yeah.
Geri Coulter:Even though you didn't, mom, you gave me a scripture every single day, and I did. I emailed him every day. So, anyway, so I when I passed that torch, we had a ceremony where I gave the church to the two kids. They were both anointed. They were both, they're both very deep in the I mean, they were raised under us.
Geri Coulter:You know? And so they both, started we started taking turns preaching and teaching, all three of us. And then I passed the church to them, and I had absolutely no responsibility there. Now I do do a prayer group now. I meet with them for prayer, and I have, a bible study now on Friday mornings, but, but it's theirs.
Geri Coulter:And, and I started I received five prophetic words that God was preparing a husband for me. Oh, When I was talking to Jill on the phone, I said, I know thousands of people, and not one person has ever come to me and said, Geri, I know this guy and he's single and he's a godly man and he needs a good wife like you. And, nobody's done that.
Charlie LeBlanc:You know, So, someone. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. What? We know someone.
Charlie LeBlanc:You do.
Geri Coulter:So anyway, I'm just so what I'm doing, is, you know, I live each I live one day at a time. This is the best I mean, we hear it. You know, it's a song. But I live one day at a time, and I what else did I write down? Oh, friends.
Geri Coulter:Friends are so important. Friends are vital. And what widows tend to do and I've I talked to a lot of widows, and I've got a lot of testimonies. In my God's Rescue Plan, I interviewed, several widows, and I talked on the phone with many widows. You know, Bonnie Dwell and I, as soon as this happened to Clifton, she called and wanted me to come there immediately.
Geri Coulter:He died in November. I wasn't able to get there until the January that year, but I did go. And she and I had some of the best talks. And she said to me, Geri because I said, Bonnie, how you know, I was I was gleaning from her. And and we do we need each other
Charlie LeBlanc:Yes. So
Geri Coulter:badly. Like, people who have lost children need to talk to you too. They need to talk to me. You know, we can tell them how we're still standing, how you're doing this video today, and how I'm doing it. Right.
Geri Coulter:But here's what Bonnie said. That really was a turning point for me, and this was very soon after he had gone to heaven. And it sounds so simple. She said, Geri, I realized and God told me it was better for Dave.
Charlie LeBlanc:It
Geri Coulter:was better for Dave. And I thought how true that was because people don't know this. I don't tell people this. Now I'm telling the whole world. I've told a few people, but Clifton was not well.
Geri Coulter:And he was suffering, and he was telling me not every day, but often he would say to me, Geri, I'm ready to go home. He said, I have completed what God told me to do. My vision for that church has come to pass because people were driving in off of the street saying, don't know why I'm here. People were across the street returning movies, and they were on their way to their own church. And they looked over, and God said, go to that church.
Geri Coulter:And they were there for years. You know? And so the church filled up. Clifton would be in the parking lot. Church would be getting ready to start.
Geri Coulter:Where's Clifton? Well, he was in the parking lot greeting people who were coming in, new people, you know, and the church filled up with new people who absolutely loved it. And you can imagine the joy. Even as ministers yourself, you're not pastors necessarily. You kinda are, though.
Geri Coulter:But being in front of people and praying for you know how people, love their pastor. You know? And, so he was he was very beloved, And, he was not feeling well at all the last Sunday he was in church, but he we didn't have that diagnosis. He was he was very sick. We were remodeling the church, and he would get up every morning.
Geri Coulter:That Monday, he got sick on a we found out on a Thursday that he had COVID. But Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, he would get up and say, oh, I feel so bad. But he would go because men were working on the building, and, he, you know, he was the superintendent. He was given the orders. So he would go every day.
Geri Coulter:Then on Thursday, he he said, I just can't go. And, he couldn't smell his cologne, that's when we did the test. And, anyway, then it was not good from that moment. But but his vision was complete. And when someone's visions I mean, I think a person knows that, you know, but I would never receive it.
Geri Coulter:When he told me I just don't feel good, I I'd go get the communion elements and bring out you know, we'd do that, and I lay hands on him and pray for him to be healed. I was praying for his healing, but when he turned 77 in June, before he died in November, he started saying that. He said, I'm I'm 77. Dave Duel died when he was 77. And he said, I think that's a good time to go to heaven.
Geri Coulter:And then there were sevens running out our ears. I mean, time he turned around. We started our church in 1977. We were born again in 1970. He was 77.
Geri Coulter:And then on and on it goes. We I have a whole list in that other book. Where is it? Another thing that helped me, you know, here's my 171 liners.
Charlie LeBlanc:And people Yeah. Need to get
Geri Coulter:This is a very good book.
Jill LeBlanc:He was hilarious. He was so witty.
Charlie LeBlanc:Yeah.
Geri Coulter:He was. And, you know, and I can hear him to this day. I hear his voice, you know, not out loud, but I know what he would say about things. I mean, we lived together for fifty three years. I met him when I was 19.
Geri Coulter:I'd known him as a teenager, and that story is in this book. I've been so funny.
Charlie LeBlanc:That's good. I want people to get these.
Geri Coulter:But I met him, and I was in junior high. And he was in high school. He was a senior in high school when I first saw him at the high school. And I mean, I knew I mean, I was 13. I knew he wasn't gonna I mean, I knew that was impossible.
Geri Coulter:And I was admiring him, and he was going with a cheerleader, and I admired them, you know, from a distance. But I was crazy about him. I had the biggest crush. I would sit on the front row at the class place he was in on at the basketball games, I sat on the front row just so I could see him. Yeah.
Geri Coulter:That went on the whole year, his whole senior year, that went on. And then, I mean, he went on, went to the army and had other girlfriends and stuff. And I went, on with my life and I was engaged to this guy and, he dumped me. Can you believe that?
Charlie LeBlanc:What was
Geri Coulter:he thinking? It broke my heart.
Charlie LeBlanc:Oh my god.
Geri Coulter:I was living in an apartment with my girlfriend. We worked, at a place that this apartment made it closer to work. And so we lived there, and I just I moved back home. You talk about depressed. Now I was depressed then for sure.
Geri Coulter:But, my girlfriend came by, she said, I wouldn't even go out with the girls. I wouldn't do anything. And one of my girlfriends came by, and she said, Geri Anne, isn't there anybody that you would have a date with? And do you know what I said?
Charlie LeBlanc:What's that?
Jill LeBlanc:So let
Geri Coulter:me guess. I said, well, there's only one guy, but I'm sure he's long since married. He's in his twenties by now. He's probably married. I haven't seen him for years, but but that would be Clifton Coulter.
Geri Coulter:She said, oh, I saw him last night. She said he was by himself. I'm gonna get you fixed. Oh my goodness. So that was how that was.
Geri Coulter:And from our first date, we never did anything else. He didn't go with anybody, and I didn't either. So I was with him since 19 years old. And, so when he passed away and went to heaven, and this is the way with the widows who have been married for a long time or widowers, your whole life is gone, you feel. I mean, the whole my whole life, everything was him.
Geri Coulter:It was me and him. He would tell me all the time, Geri, if something happens to me for years, he would say this. I want you to find you another husband as fast as you can. I said, I'll never do that. I don't wanna do that.
Geri Coulter:I you know? He said, well, I hope I go first because I couldn't make it without
Jill LeBlanc:you. My
Charlie LeBlanc:blessing. Well, he was an amazing guy, and, we just, are amazed at you and how you've been able to make it through these three tragedies. His brother dying, your son, and of course him as well.
Geri Coulter:And and the dog.
Charlie LeBlanc:And the dog, of course. And that's that's significant. To be honest, you know, Jill and I didn't understand that, you know, because we we had a dog. He was 16 years old when he
Jill LeBlanc:14.
Charlie LeBlanc:14 when we had to put him down because his hips were going out. But, but yeah, and he was dear to us, but, not not quite
Jill LeBlanc:Not like yours.
Charlie LeBlanc:Like yours. And, well, mean, he was dear to us, but your Yes. Exactly. Your dog became, you know, a great companion to you. So, that and we have other that have the same.
Charlie LeBlanc:You know, we do have, a dear friend here locally in Jacksonville that just lost his wife, who was one of Jill's best friends. 65 years old she was when she passed. Well, you know. Just horrible.
Jill LeBlanc:Yvonne.
Charlie LeBlanc:Yeah. And our hearts were broken over that. But Grady is having to go through, you know, that loneliness, you know, waking up in the morning and having an empty pillow next to him, and smelling the fragrance, you know, the fragrance that he had just bought her in Italy or something, whenever it was, you know, six months earlier. You know all all that story. And you've experienced it yourself and, it's trigger the things that can trigger, the grief.
Charlie LeBlanc:Now, like you said, there is an aspect, an important aspect of us reigning in our hearts, reigning in our minds, and by the grace of God and by the Holy Spirit deciding that I'm not going to let this overtake me. But the scripture tells us that there is a season and a time for mourning. And then there's a time for tears. And I think in Jill's and I've experienced and even our studies that we've learned that tears are very healthy for you. Although they hurt and although they seem, you know, you don't know sometimes if you'll get out of it, because sometimes you weep so hard and uncontrollable.
Charlie LeBlanc:But, and it can be a little scary at times. But, you know, I've always said, you know, scripture says to weep with those who weep, God would never tell Paul to write that unless he did the same. And we know at the tomb of Lazarus, he looked over and he wept when he saw them weeping. So, he wept with those who wept. So, I've always it was comforting to me, that when I was weeping uncontrollably, to just believe that God was with me and weeping with me, you know, and comforting me.
Charlie LeBlanc:The Bible says He comforts those who mourn. So, another scripture I ran across in Isaiah, it says, When Israel suffered, he also suffered. And I went, Wow. You know, like when we're hurting, it's not like he's rebuking us. No, when we're hurting, he's hurting too.
Charlie LeBlanc:Just like we would hurt when our child gets hurt. But, but wow, what an amazing testimony that you have of God's grace. You know, scripture says when we're weak, then we're strong because in our weakness he gives us his strength. But, but yeah, Geri, we just really, honor you and, we just admire you. And we know that you have so much yet to give to the body of Christ.
Charlie LeBlanc:Thank you for penning out all these books. How many of them are there now?
Geri Coulter:I think I have five now. I'm working on my sixth one. Well, this one was actually a message that Clifton preached, Saint or Sinner. He preached that in a bible school in Kansas City in 1995, and someone transcribed it. So I took it and redid it.
Geri Coulter:I mean, he all of his stuff is in there, but I put a chapter in the front and in the back, just bringing it up to date. But, yeah.
Charlie LeBlanc:And what about your sweatshirt? You said something about your sweatshirt where you
Geri Coulter:Yes. Oh, Hard Fought Hallelujah. I don't know if you can see it.
Charlie LeBlanc:Amen. We see it now. Yes.
Geri Coulter:I love that song because I've had a hard fought Hallelujah. I have a Hallelujah, but it didn't come easy as Jill knows and as you know. I do have a Hallelujah. I will always have a Hallelujah. When I go to church I tell you what, I go to church, and I don't feel grief there.
Geri Coulter:Well, once in a while, I do, but and people may think this is you know, I don't know if anyone believes this, but I sense his spirit many times at the church.
Jill LeBlanc:Well, you know, the Lord spoke to me early on after Bo passed away and said, the one thing that you can still do with your son is worship me. Because they're always worshiping, in heaven. And when we join in, it's like we're together again.
Charlie LeBlanc:Wow.
Geri Coulter:And Yes.
Jill LeBlanc:Yeah. It's so powerful.
Charlie LeBlanc:So I can see why you when you go to church and you're worshiping, you can sense him. Of course, that church just oozes with him. Mean, he was that church. He a larger than life guy.
Geri Coulter:He was a legend.
Jill LeBlanc:And I wanted to say too, it was the story of y'all losing Kelly that the Lord used to give us a message for the church. Because we were, you know, we were we wrote about this in our book. And we were in England at a minister's conference getting ready to start, and a friend of our well, Wendell Parr came and told us, did you hear about Clifton and Geri? We said, no. What?
Jill LeBlanc:And he said, their son Kelly was just killed in a tractor accident. And we we were just so brokenhearted for you guys. Oh my gosh. Could hardly breathe. And then the next weekend, we were back Before
Charlie LeBlanc:you go on, I want you to tell the whole story, but, Geri, I'm sure you remember. But Jill said, I'm gonna have to excuse myself.
Jill LeBlanc:We were just getting ready
Charlie LeBlanc:to We just getting ready to eat it. And she went up to the hotel room and just wept and began to pray for you guys. And, you know, because she she knew how hard this And and then then after a couple minutes of me being sweet to Wendell, I said, I think I need to go up with Jill as well. And so, we went up and prayed for you and that's when we called. We called you guys and and did our best to just love on you and minister to you, but then go on with the story then.
Jill LeBlanc:And so, you know, we got back home at the end of that week and, that was a Sunday conference. Was gonna be Monday through Wednesday, I think. And then we got back home, and and we said, listen, Charlie said to Clifton on the phone, can we come and help in any way? Because we only lived an hour from you guys. And so he said, yes, please come.
Jill LeBlanc:So the next Sunday we were driving down to Farmington, Missouri to be with you guys.
Charlie LeBlanc:And I'm thinking, what am I doing?
Jill LeBlanc:Because it had only been a year and a half.
Charlie LeBlanc:Yeah, just been a year and a I since we
Geri Coulter:read that in your book and I'll tell from my perspective when you're finished.
Charlie LeBlanc:Yeah. So, my perspective, I'm on my way because, you know, compassion pulls you into things many times that you're really not ready for or you don't think you're ready for. Yeah. You know, and I think Jesus was moved with compassion in so many ways. And and, you know, of course, the miracle power of God would come through him.
Charlie LeBlanc:But that's one of those things where we just wanted to come and be with y'all out of compassion. But once the reality of it set in that I was driving there and was gonna be singing and sharing in your Sunday morning service after the pain of Bo was still so fresh in us of losing our son, I for a moment, I said, God, I might just get in the pulpit and cry the whole time. What good is this going to do for them? And that's when I started praying in the Holy Ghost and asking God to help me.
Jill LeBlanc:Yes. And He gave you a word from heaven.
Charlie LeBlanc:That's right. I was walking, I was praying in the Spirit and out of nowhere this word came to me. He said, Charlie, simply tell the people, you do the lovin' and I'll do the fixing. You do the lovin' and I'll do the fixin'. What was so cool about it, Geri, is that's not the way I talk, you know, fixin' and lovin'.
Charlie LeBlanc:But that was South Missouri, you guys were a little more Southern, cowboys, and and things of this nature. But, it was Jesus. It was God saying, Tell them to do the lovin' and I'll do the fixin'. And that's exactly the message I brought after we sang some, and I believe it was a word from the Lord. And like Jill said, that has pulled us It's
Jill LeBlanc:of this ministry.
Charlie LeBlanc:Yeah, the foundation of where we're at today was that message. You do the loving and I'll do the fixing. And I think, just to reiterate that, that is such an important part of healing, is people loving us rather than trying to fix us. Isn't that right?
Geri Coulter:Exactly.
Charlie LeBlanc:Yeah. Yeah, ma'am. So
Geri Coulter:And it seemed like that you were so confident and fully prepared See that how God covers this? Isn't that we had no idea that you had any intimidation whatsoever. Wow.
Charlie LeBlanc:Because it
Geri Coulter:came off like that. And then afterwards, you sat with us for five hours. Wow. And brought books and wanted, and your compassion was off the chart. And we appreciated that so much.
Geri Coulter:So go ahead, Jill. Did you, you were talking when we interrupted you. Oh, no, no, no.
Jill LeBlanc:I was just kind of trying to set the stage because that word from the Lord, which came as a result of your son passing, changed our lives forever. Yes. Amazing. Just love you, Geri.
Geri Coulter:Oh, I love you. I'm looking at you. I know I'm not looking at the camera. I love you so much. And I just wanna say, you know, to have friends like you is rare.
Geri Coulter:I was sitting here for the sake of those watching, after Clifton passed away, and I was still I didn't even know what I was doing. My house was full of people, but this on Sunday night, I believe it was Sunday afternoon, I was here by myself. The lady I had doing everything, my daughter-in-law in the kitchen had gone, and I just happened to be here by myself and knock, knock on my door. And who was it? Charlie and Jill.
Geri Coulter:Charlie and Jill. They were in Texas, and they heard about Clifton, they got on a plane, flew to St. Louis, rented a car, and showed up at my house. Who does that? Love does that.
Geri Coulter:And they came in, and they said, what can we do? I said, sing me a song. You are my strength. You are my refuge and my strength. It's what I requested you to sing.
Charlie LeBlanc:Yes. Yes. Mhmm. God and that was
Geri Coulter:so good. And then they stayed for the service that I had on Monday night and sang it again.
Charlie LeBlanc:Well
Jill LeBlanc:We were just honored to be there.
Charlie LeBlanc:Definitely. Well, Geri, you have it's it's an honor, as you know now, as you've helped widows and you've been reaching out with your books and with others, you know what an honor it is to go into someone's grief. You know, the more I've prayed and studied this whole season of our life, of of people's lives that go through pain and grief, I really see it as such a holy thing. As weird as that sounds, grief oh, well, if you rebuke it and everybody's It's a holy thing because it is us expressing our love for our loved ones and it's God totally understanding that and holiness. And so as we heal through the tears, through the grief, through the pain, it's a holy moment between God and us, even the frustration, even the anger, even the confusion, it's holy to God.
Charlie LeBlanc:And that's why this thing, you do the love and I'll do the fixin', is when people start to try to fix you.
Geri Coulter:Oh, and that's what they want to do. Everyone thinks they can fix you.
Charlie LeBlanc:Yeah, and shoot the scripture at you. When they do that, they don't realize that they're disrupting a holy thing that's going on between you and the Lord. Now, there are safe friends, there are some people that, like you said, we need help. We need people, that we can weep with. And I share stories about that in the book, where people that, you know, I was afraid to tell too many people how I was really feeling because they would rebuke me and speak the word to me and knock me over the head.
Charlie LeBlanc:But that is disrupting the holy healing moments of God that are happening between us and the Holy Spirit. I just think grieving in the hands of Jesus and mourning in the embrace of the Lord is something that we must do, and people need to keep their hands off of it.
Geri Coulter:That's right. And the key is to allow Him. You know, you've gotta let him in, and then it's easier. You know, the other thing that I do, this is what I do on a continual basis when I think I can't stand it, is I get a vision of them, of Kelly and Clifton in heaven with the Lord free of their because Kelly had a lot of problems. Kelly Kelly was only 41, but he had broken his leg.
Geri Coulter:He had broken shoulder. He needed shoulder replacements. He needed all this stuff to he was you know, he smoked, and he he had a lot of problems. And and he had it in his head that he would die die young. He had spoken that many times.
Jill LeBlanc:Oh my goodness. Crazy.
Geri Coulter:I know. Ain't that terrible?
Charlie LeBlanc:Yeah.
Geri Coulter:So he and he was tormented, leaving his voice, you know, leaving and doing what he did. He He was tormented by that. He was raising he loved the Lord. I mean, I have no doubt that Kelly's rejoicing with Clifton in heaven. And then I have visions, and I don't know if this is right or not, but I believe you know, you don't have to believe this, but I believe that God has arranged a nice ranch for them.
Geri Coulter:I think they're on the ranch.
Charlie LeBlanc:Praise the Lord.
Jill LeBlanc:I agree with you.
Geri Coulter:Clifton always wanted a herd of Angus cattle. We had two or three when we lived in Indiana. He was collecting them, then we went into the ministry and traveled and we didn't we couldn't do it anymore. So I believe he has an Angus farm along with his horses, and I believe they have everything they've ever wanted.
Jill LeBlanc:And his paint horses, and I can't wait to go visit. Yes.
Charlie LeBlanc:And tell him how beautiful they are.
Geri Coulter:We can visit each other up there. And you know what a paint is now. But, yeah, I really do. And, I mean, to me, that is as real as me sitting here in front of the this camera. It's that real to me that people get everything they've ever wanted.
Geri Coulter:You know, the bible, I've had people come to me, and I think this is important and this is for someone. But I've had people come to me and they were disappointed that their mate or their child had had a word from the Lord and they knew it was the word from the Lord, but it did not get fulfilled because they passed away. They said, well, what was, you know, was the prophet wrong? Was my husband wrong? He no.
Geri Coulter:What it is, every single you know, all God's promises are yes and amen. And when he gives us the word, yes, that will come to pass, but maybe it isn't until we get to heaven. We're still gonna get all of our desires fulfilled. We're still gonna get to fulfill every prophecy that was ever given to us. It may be in heaven because we don't stop living.
Geri Coulter:Know? We don't die here. That's not the end of anything when we die. It's the end of our body, but it's not the end of our life. Because we we we just instantly are with the Lord.
Geri Coulter:We're in heaven. We're in our real life. It's what it is.
Charlie LeBlanc:Right.
Geri Coulter:Jerry, that's really good. Yes. I love it. Amen.
Jill LeBlanc:That is good. It is really good. I love it. We were talking to our grandsons the other night and they were asking all these kinds of questions like, is heaven like an alternate universe? You know?
Jill LeBlanc:Like, that's in that's what Hollywood's putting out there. And so they were trying to relate to what heaven's really like. And I was I was telling them all that, you know, this is just temporary. The real life is heaven.
Geri Coulter:Yes. Real life. Cross over.
Charlie LeBlanc:Yeah.
Jill LeBlanc:I love that. I fully agree with you.
Charlie LeBlanc:We so appreciate that because, you know, Bo had incredible prophecies over him, and I and I wondered about that. Said he was scripture the Lord told me he would be a prophet to many nations, which I would never say that over him. I would never even think that over him. No. But it dropped in my heart that he would be a prophet to many nations.
Charlie LeBlanc:And then as time went on, one day he was at work where he was working at a shoe store and he came home and he goes, Oh, dad, by the way, He came home late and we were in bed already. We're just getting ready to turn on the lights. And he goes, Oh, by the way, the Lord called me to preach. And then he was like 17, 18 years old. I went, Yeah?
Charlie LeBlanc:And he goes, Oh yeah. He gave me my first sermon tonight. And I'm like, What? And so he went on to his room and I got out of bed. I went back to his room and said, What are you telling me here?
Charlie LeBlanc:And he goes, Yeah. He goes, A lot of times I was going be a preacher and he gave me my first sermon. I said, Well, did you write it down? He said, No, I don't need to write it down. I got it.
Charlie LeBlanc:Got it all. I know the whole song.
Geri Coulter:Hadn't heard that story.
Charlie LeBlanc:And that was when he was 17?
Jill LeBlanc:17 or 18.
Charlie LeBlanc:17 or 18 years old. And there was a fulfillment of this prophecy. But like you said, Geri, we don't know what all heaven's like. Man, he may be, I don't know what he's doing in heaven with that prophet to many nations, but even, I don't know.
Geri Coulter:Well, there'll be many nations there, Yeah.
Charlie LeBlanc:So he might just be playing his drums and singing to all of them. Who knows?
Geri Coulter:I love that.
Charlie LeBlanc:We did have one friend of ours have a vision that they didn't know Bo, and, and after Bo died, they, it was a friend of a friend, and he said, I had this vision. This young man came in heaven, they were leading worship on a big platform, this young man came and walked up to me, and he said, and she recognized it was I'm getting the story kind of mixed up and messed up. But bottom line is
Geri Coulter:We want the bottom line.
Charlie LeBlanc:Bottom line is he turned around and he had drumsticks sticking out of his pocket and she said, does and then she said to us, does he play drums? You know? She didn't even know it, but she saw that in heaven. So, you know, we don't really know all that's going on in heaven, but we know it's all good. That's for sure.
Geri Coulter:All awesome. Yeah. It's beyond our we can't. We don't know it because our mind can't But every once in a while, and Clifton would say that it was like touching an electric fence. Oh, you do understand just for a split second every once in a while, like touching an electric fence.
Geri Coulter:I loved that analogy because isn't true? Especially for a country boy, you know what it's like to touch an electric fence. Yeah. Right.
Charlie LeBlanc:Yeah. Well, all the scriptures about heaven, are more precious to us, isn't it, now than ever.
Geri Coulter:Oh, yes.
Charlie LeBlanc:And, that one scripture in Romans says, For this cause I bow my knees before the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. It says, Whom all the family in heaven and earth are named. Heaven and earth. And I just think, Oh my God, we have family in heaven, you have family in heaven, we have Of course, my mom and dad have passed and other family members. We have a niece, that passed when she was 14 years old, of cancer.
Charlie LeBlanc:And so, we just thank God for eternal life. You said, you know, we don't die. We pass from death to life. Hallelujah. Yes.
Charlie LeBlanc:In fact, I tell this story on my last podcast, but I said, one day I kicked the wall and I said, darn it, Paul. Why'd you have to die? And I heard from heaven him say, dad, don't ever say I died again. I'm more alive than I've ever been. I heard that.
Geri Coulter:Oh my goodness.
Charlie LeBlanc:Spirit, whatever. But I heard that in my spirit and I was like, Woah, I won't, I promise. But I probably have since, you know.
Geri Coulter:You know, I believe that, and I've had glimpses like that. I've had glimpses of you know, and because we our minds can't understand a perfect life being perfect. But up there, it is perfect. And they are perfectly happy and overjoyed. We can't even comprehend it.
Geri Coulter:And and this is what get really, the bottom line, you can boil it all down. Yes. We need friends. Yes. We need the word.
Geri Coulter:Yes. We need all these things I said, but we need to understand a little bit more about heaven. Pray for revelations a little bit more about heaven with seeing them there. Yes. Because that probably does me more good than anything else I do is I see them there.
Geri Coulter:And when I'm really, you know, missing them, especially Clifton lately, you know, when I really miss, miss, miss him, I can go there. I can go in my mind because we have that privilege and opportunity to do whatever we want to with our mind. And we can and even if you're going down the dark path, you can flip a switch. I've learned how to do it. We can flip a switch.
Charlie LeBlanc:Yeah.
Geri Coulter:And just no. No. I'm not going down that road. I'm gonna think about heaven. I'm gonna think about them being perfectly happy and everything they've ever wanted and desired and joy.
Geri Coulter:The bible says unspeakable and full of glory is what they have in heaven. And that's what they're like. And they people ask me, do you think they know what we're doing? You know, I do. I do think they know what we're doing.
Geri Coulter:But I even when Cody was on drugs, somebody said, do you think Kelly knows this? And see, Cody had a dream that Kelly my most of my family has had dreams about Kelly, real, real dreams. You know, he comes to them in a dream. I never have. But Kelly had come down, and him and Cody Cody had this dream.
Geri Coulter:They were sitting under this gazebo. And and Cody said, Kelly, I thought you died. And he said, oh, man. No. And I can just you know, Cody can do Kelly.
Geri Coulter:He's like, oh, man. No. There's I'm not dead. He said, I've never been more alive in my life, and I've never known life like this. And and he went out and began to throw this football.
Geri Coulter:And, anyway, just exemplifying, life to the fullest like Kelly would. You know? And so that dream really helped Cody and the other family members. And the boys still dream about their dad. So, yeah, he's much happier than he was here, I can tell you that.
Geri Coulter:And I know that for sure.
Charlie LeBlanc:It's definitely, we just thank Jesus so much for giving us eternal life and making a way, making a path, taking the pain of the cross, and then of course, taking our sins, our sickness, our diseases, our pain, bearing our sorrows, bearing our griefs, you know, without him having handled and being on earth and sensing and feeling what we feel, we would be hopeless. But, yeah, man, thank God for heaven, thank God He made a way. Amen. When there was no way for all of our loved ones. We have a lot to look forward to.
Geri Coulter:We do. I know
Charlie LeBlanc:for me, I'm getting way too close to that. I'm closer than you. I mean, I want it. I want it. Like you, Geri, what you said about Clifton, God bless him, he said he finished.
Charlie LeBlanc:He felt he was finished. We don't.
Geri Coulter:Well, and that's me.
Charlie LeBlanc:I know you're not finished. And after this podcast, we're going to put your name all over Facebook and we're going to say, Looking for a good husband. Amen. Well, it's We
Jill LeBlanc:just appreciate you joining us today.
Geri Coulter:Oh, it's been a joy. I was afraid. I thought, I don't know what to say. I know. Yeah.
Jill LeBlanc:But I just esteem you so highly in the Lord. You are such an amazing woman of God. And and I just love that you have kept your heart open to him so that he can continue to comfort you and speak to you
Geri Coulter:and enable you to help others. Amen.
Jill LeBlanc:So it's just a beautiful thing. Thank you so much.
Charlie LeBlanc:Absolutely.
Geri Coulter:Well, I love you too. I'll never forget some of our fun times in Florida. Remember when you and Clifton watched the five With Holy Evander Holyfield and Mike Tyson. Remember that? And me and you watched a movie in our room.
Charlie LeBlanc:We saw him get his ear bit off.
Geri Coulter:Jerry Maguire. Yep.
Charlie LeBlanc:Many fond memories.
Jill LeBlanc:Well, you'll have to come down, see us in Florida sometime.
Geri Coulter:I will. I've got friends in that area too, and I will do that one day.
Charlie LeBlanc:That'd be great, Geri. Well, before we close, why don't you just say a prayer for, pray for those who are listening. Many of them are like you that have lost husbands. Many of them like you that have lost a spouse, and some have lost children, And many of them so, and we miss even those who are so close to their moms and dads, and they lose their mom and dad early, and they're devastated. So, we're just going to let you close us out with a prayer and then we'll come back and just say bye to everyone.
Geri Coulter:Thank you. Father, we just come before you and Lord, we lift up everyone listening who has lost a loved one. And, God, I would pray today not only for comfort for all of us and not only the peace, but father that we could, like we've talked about today, we could see them, that we can see our loved ones rejoicing in heaven with you, God, and that they are perfect and whole. And that when we get there, what a joy, what everlasting peace and joy and fun that we will be having with them in heaven with our savior and with our father. Lord, I pray for comfort to pour into all the hearts that are listening right now and hope.
Geri Coulter:I pray hope into your hearts. And father, if anyone happens to be watching today that doesn't know you, I pray they would reach out and realize that all we have to do is call on the name of Jesus. Just believe in the name of Jesus that he died for our sin and that he has paid for everything we've ever done wrong so that we can live a life of joy, so that we can live a life of peace with no condemnation, and that we get to eternally be with you. We thank you and praise you today for this time, Lord, and for being who you are to us. Thank you.
Geri Coulter:In Jesus' name, amen.
Charlie LeBlanc:Amen. Amen. Well, I
Jill LeBlanc:just wanted to say to the listeners, as Geri has shared throughout the hour, that she has several books that are available on Amazon.
Charlie LeBlanc:Yes.
Jill LeBlanc:And we will have some information below in the description. But Geri is spelled g e r I and Coulter is spelled c o u l t e r. Yes.
Geri Coulter:If you
Jill LeBlanc:go on Amazon and look up books by Geri Coulter, you'll see them all there. Yes. And she is just, as you can tell, she's a well of life and a well of really sweet ministries. So I encourage you to go and get some of her books.
Charlie LeBlanc:Yes. And invite her to your church to
Geri Coulter:speak. Thank you.
Jill LeBlanc:She is a great minister.
Geri Coulter:And that
Jill LeBlanc:would be awesome for
Geri Coulter:you to have her come. Thank you. Thank you so much. I've appreciated this. I was nervous, but I wasn't once we got started.
Charlie LeBlanc:You
Jill LeBlanc:couldn't really did tell.
Geri Coulter:Thank you so much.
Jill LeBlanc:So are you in a, this is your home behind you. And is it a log home?
Geri Coulter:Clifton, no. No. It's not a log home. But Clifton, one winter when we were snowed in a few years ago, we had this scrap wood in the barn. And he went to the barn and brought every piece of this up.
Geri Coulter:He measured. He built this wall in a day. And I don't know if you can see the cross behind me. Oh, okay. I do now.
Geri Coulter:There's a cross right in the middle of it that he built. And this is my dining room. That's awesome. Beautiful.
Jill LeBlanc:So you've got a beautiful memorial there.
Charlie LeBlanc:Yeah.
Geri Coulter:Yes. I just it's I don't know. It's very comforting for me to do I do my live videos when I do them, in front of this.
Jill LeBlanc:Awesome. That's awesome. Well, that's beautiful. I I'm sure others were were wondering too that might be watching. So, that's that's just really beautiful.
Geri Coulter:That's what it is.
Jill LeBlanc:And you can follow Geri on Facebook. She does a lot of ministry there when she does her little videos and things. So.
Geri Coulter:Yeah. Thank you.
Jill LeBlanc:Yeah. Okay, Geri. Thank you again for joining us. We will talk to you soon.