Cloud Realities

Dave, Esmee, and Rob are strapping in for another season of bold, brain-bending conversations—and they’re bringing the flux capacitor with them from Back to the Future.
Season 5 beams in global leaders and innovators who challenge how we think about technology, business, and humanity. From AI disruption to digital sovereignty, from leadership to culture—this season’s guests are ready to shake things up.

Our first full episode drops on September 25, but before we hit 88 miles per hour, here’s a quick trailer to set the timeline straight, or at least bend it a little.

Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/

Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

Creators and Guests

Host
Dave Chapman
Chief Cloud Evangelist with nearly 30 years of global experience in strategic development, transformation, program delivery, and operations, I bring a wealth of expertise to the world of cloud innovation. In addition to my professional expertise, I’m the creator and main host of the Cloud Realities podcast, where we explore the transformative power of cloud technology.
Host
Esmee van de Giessen
Principal Consultant Enterprise Transformation and Cloud Realities podcast host, bridges gaps to drive impactful change. With expertise in agile, value delivery, culture, and user adoption, she empowers teams and leaders to ensure technology enhances agility, resilience, and sustainable growth across ecosystems.
Host
Rob Kernahan
VP Chief Architect for Cloud and Cloud Realities podcast host, drives digital transformation by combining deep technical expertise with exceptional client engagement. Passionate about high-performance cultures, he leverages cloud and modern operating models to create low-friction, high-velocity environments that fuel business growth and empower people to thrive.
Producer
Marcel van der Burg
VP Global Marketing and producer of the Cloud Realities podcast, is a strategic marketing leader with 33+ years of experience. He drives global cloud marketing strategies, leveraging creativity, multi-channel expertise, and problem-solving to deliver impactful business growth in complex environments.

What is Cloud Realities?

Exploring the practical and exciting alternate realities that can be unleashed through cloud driven transformation and cloud native living and working.

Each episode, our hosts Dave, Esmee & Rob talk to Cloud leaders and practitioners to understand how previously untapped business value can be released, how to deal with the challenges and risks that come with bold ventures and how does human experience factor into all of this?

They cover Intelligent Industry, Customer Experience, Sustainability, AI, Data and Insight, Cyber, Cost, Leadership, Talent and, of course, Tech.

Together, Dave, Esmee & Rob have over 80 years of cloud and transformation experience and act as our guides though a new reality each week.

Web - https://www.capgemini.com/insights/research-library/cloud-realities-podcast/
Email - cloudrealities@capgemini.com

CR108: Season 5 Trailer, The future just dropped
[00:00:00] But I heard a fact the other day. Oh, go on then. Or maybe you can answer the question. If back to the future was made now, what year would Martin McFly be going back to, oh, hang on a minute. So, oh, this is gonna be one of those things. So he was, was he in 1980? Was he in 1986? 1984. It was 1984 or nine five.
So it's in there. So he went back to 1955. So that's what about 30 years? 30. 30. Oh my God. That puts it at [00:00:30] 1995. I mean, that's not good is it? For some of us that's worrying. Uh, well, it's in recent memory, if that's what you mean. Yeah. More than recent memory, frankly, it feels like yesterday. That's, well what, if you think about it, what if in the film there's massive differences aren't no.
Or you remember seeing massive differences? What was, what do you remember being different from like 95 and that era to today? Windows 95. Some people are still running, [00:01:00] some people are still running Windows 95. So what would, trying me up with the Rolling Stones. Yeah. We all know Marcel, but that's one of your favorites.
Um, yeah. So there was the early, I guess there was early computes. No smart smartphone, not internet was coming online. It was internet existed. Yahoo. Existed. Existed. Well, m the Mosaic browser. Yeah, that, that's right. Yeah. Vignette template. Netscape. One of those classics, literally a [00:01:30] handful of sites. You could probably like triple digit number of sites on the internet at that point.
Yeah. It, it wasn't, it wasn't mature or secure, but nobody cared. 'cause there wasn't the nefarious nature of cybercrime at the moment was there nobody understood you could make money. Cyber Well, yeah, because you couldn't, I mean, unless you were gonna go and change someone's IMDB, which you could do anyway.
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, Wikipedia. That was their thing. Uh, was it, I dunno, when did Wikipedia start? I think it, it was there pretty early days. Wikipedia, wasn't it? It was probably few. It'd be wrong about that sites wasn't there. But the, the, um, but what has actually changed then? The [00:02:00] mobile phones a big, that, that's converged technology.
David converge technology. That's what we've seen in the last 30 years. Yeah. G Geospatial sort of technology. Yeah. Yeah. Get your GPS. No way. You're going Google Maps the marketplace. Yeah. Online transactions. Yeah, wireless communication. All of that's like, but you wouldn't notice a particularly at the moment where we're going through like a nineties retro period, you wouldn't notice that the bigger change in things like clothes and things like that, right?
No. That you did between 80, the mid eighties [00:02:30] and the mid fifties. But is that because we've just lived that 30 years? And actually we weren't in that other period, so it seemed like a massive difference where we've watched all the little changes and we appreciate them. What was the biggest musical event of the summer this year?
It was the, the, the relived oasis events in the uk Definitely they say in the nineties is coming back. So maybe that's it. It's nostalgia's nostalgia and it, and it, it was, I would say Oasis pushed past just being pure nostalgia. They were zeitgeisty this year. You know, they like [00:03:00] people of all generations paying attention to it, talking about it as if it was really fresh, rather than talking about like a nostalgia act, you know what I mean?
I suppose the, uh, the music in the film, it's like Johnny B. Good and all that lot, which seems further away. Whereas the one we've just had, as you say, the zeitgeist seems much closer. And again, it might just be 'cause we've lived it, so therefore we don't think it's as dramatic. Could be that. But anyway.
Robert? Yes, go on. David. We are here to talk about briefly, I think season five of cloud realities. Oh yes. It's coming [00:03:30] back. We're back almost, we are back from what date? Marcel. First real episode is September 25th. Yeah, real episode. What's the other? So we end, look, join us on September the 25th for more chat about tech in society [00:04:00] and maybe the odd movie, A bit of music. See you in another reality next [00:04:30] week.