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In a world that feels increasingly chaotic, uncertain, and hard to make sense of, Realms of Curiosity with Sarah and Wendy offers a different kind of conversation.
Drawing from shamanic practice, psychology, and decades of firsthand experience with non-ordinary reality, Sarah and Wendy explore the deeper forces shaping our inner and outer worlds—from intuition and consciousness to deception, transformation, and the shifting nature of truth itself.
They don’t claim to have answers. Instead, they follow curiosity into the unknown—questioning, exploring, and inviting you to do the same.
Because in times like these, curiosity might be one of the most powerful tools we have.
Welcome to Realms of Curiosity. Listen in as two friends explore the mysteries of the universe through the lens of their otherworldly experiences.
Sarah:Hello.
Wendy:Oh, hello.
Sarah:How are you doing?
Wendy:I'm doing okay. How about you?
Sarah:The best that can be expected given the world. Yeah, I'm doing okay.
Wendy:That's good.
Sarah:Trying to stay away from many things. But anyway, here we go.
Wendy:I've been using the phrase: I'm hanging in there. Yeah, a lot.
Sarah:Yeah. Yeah. People are really people are really in in turbulent waters. You know? I I find
Wendy:It's a turbulent time. Absolutely.
Sarah:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Wendy:Yeah. Yeah. It's challenging. We're we're recording this almost mid May. Yeah.
Wendy:So, yeah, you have that feeling of when's the other shoe gonna drop?
Sarah:Well, it drops every day. I mean, there's just so many shoes. Like, can we have a few days with no shoes?
Wendy:So many shoes. We got so many shoes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Wendy:Yep. We're just dropping shoes.
Sarah:And today is the UFO dropping shoes day. Did you did have you been sort of up on this?
Wendy:Oh, like, the our government?
Sarah:Our government.
Wendy:Doing, some disclosure or acknowledgment of some
Sarah:Our famously truth telling government. Yeah. Them.
Wendy:Well, speaking of which, you had mentioned that you wanted to talk about this sort of I don't know how you worded it. How did you word it? Was
Sarah:I don't know. I don't remember.
Wendy:Well, you're talking about interdimensional contact. Right? Something like that. Yeah. And I said, you mean, like, ET, like extraterrestrial?
Sarah:I I called them multidimensional beings.
Wendy:Oh, that's what it was. Multidimensional. Yeah.
Sarah:Yeah. And we had gotten onto some subject, and I said, hey. That would be fun to talk about. And so, coincidentally, today is May 8, And I I woke up, and in the news was the administration is gonna be dropping the information about they're still calling them UFOs, but whatever. That's what they said.
Sarah:And so I looked to see what was dropping, and there's this gray black and white, gray, grainy picture with, like, two microscopically small gray dots together off in the distance, and that's that's, like, the dropping of the big information. You know? Like
Wendy:And they're saying these gray dots are?
Wendy:UFOs.
Wendy:Okay.
Sarah:Like, really? That's all you
Sarah:can do?
Wendy:I guess that's the step that they're acknowledging that they're saying that these objects are UAPs or UFOs.
Sarah:Yeah.
Wendy:Okay.
Sarah:I like UAPs better as a term, but, nevertheless, they were some places were saying that, and some places were saying UFOs. And there were two of these grainy things with the gray dots. It just seemed like, okay. So I don't think anybody is particularly interested in your gray dots.
Wendy:Oh, I guess maybe that's their on ramp. Maybe they'll be disclosing more, or is that it? I don't know. Who knows? Who knows?
Wendy:I don't know. But that's that's more than they've
Sarah:Mhmm. Not sure what it is.
Wendy:Done before. Maybe they're gonna say, yes. There are these anomalous objects that are
Sarah:No kidding. I mean, like, for a long time, there's been anomalous objects. You know?
Wendy:Yeah. Maybe they'll disclose more. Maybe they will leave it at that and say, there you go.
Sarah:There you go. Gray dots in the sky, not even in the sky, in the image.
Wendy:Yeah. Like, as if they don't have any better photographic evidence. Right.
Sarah:Like, let's let's be a little more exciting about this whole thing.
Wendy:Yeah. I'm sure.
Sarah:Yep. It's just all all theater. You know? It's like, well, now we're gonna blow these people up. Well, now we're gonna talk about UFOs that are actually here.
Sarah:Now it it's it just feels like such theater daily, daily, daily. Anyway,
Wendy:I I I A theater is a good word. Yeah.
Sarah:Yeah. And we're supposed to react to it with,
Wendy:oh my god. I keep going out into the lobby and getting some popcorn. And then just hanging out in the lobby.
Sarah:The lobby of life?
Wendy:Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Exactly. Well, anyway,
Sarah:we shouldn't get carried away with that whole thing. But I I thought it was funny kind of timing that today was the day we said we were going to talk about this, and it coincides with the great reveal
Wendy:of It's freaking fascinating, actually.
Sarah:Yeah. I thought so too.
Wendy:Yeah. No. That is impeccable timing. Yeah. Well
Sarah:Life is pretty weird. But anyway, so where should we really begin on this subject? Well, I'd love to phenomenon.
Wendy:What experience or if any do you have? Because this is an area we haven't talked about at all. So I'd be curious to know where's your head at with all of this?
Sarah:I feel like I should say as a, you know, kind of a disclaimer, I've never been a person who was interested particularly in this subject in my earlier life. I had, you know, various boyfriends who watched Star Trek, and I would be forced to watch with them. And it never really, like, caught me. You know? I don't know why.
Sarah:You would think it would, but it didn't. And as time went on and I started to journey and beginning with power animal and and other, you know, beings that would come in my journeys, eventually, some years into it, what I identify now as a Pleiadian spirit guide came into my journey. Very tall, beautiful, blue cloaked being who like, very tall and very interesting character. As I got to know her in my journeys, she revealed that she's a Pleiadian being from Sisters star system, the Pleiades. And I didn't know anything about this stuff.
Sarah:Like, this was quite a surprise to me. And as time went by, this was when Barbara Marceniak was doing a lot of her work, and she she you don't know who Barbara is?
Wendy:I have no idea.
Sarah:Oh, interesting. So Barbara Marciniak channeled the Pleiadians. And she channeled, I I believe, not one entity, but a group, and she would channel the information from the Pleiadians. And she wrote several books. Really interesting character.
Sarah:So she's she sort of floated into my life, And I would have her when I lived in Vermont, I would have her come once a year, and she would do a channeling for two days, and people would come. And it was really interesting. And so that led me into the world of other dimensional beings from the realm of what I perceived to be all of consciousness, the everything everywhere all at once concept, where you can connect with these beings. They don't have to, like, appear in your living room. They appear in your consciousness.
Sarah:And they're they're phenomenally intelligent, and they have taught me things that I would have no way of knowing otherwise. You know? And I find that pretty interesting. Yeah. Yeah.
Sarah:I'm not a science person. They tell me some very advanced things that I have to, like, get off and Google up and see what's what they're you know, is that correct? I always verify information to see if it's correct, and it always is. And and often things they talk about ten, fifteen years later, it will become part of the science vocabulary. You know, the quantum physics people and and those people will start to talk about things that have been expressed to me in journeys ten, fifteen years before.
Sarah:I mean, that's pretty trippy.
Wendy:That's very cool. I love that you're getting information that you had no concept of, and then it becomes a reality in your physical world.
Sarah:Yeah. Yeah.
Wendy:Those are those kinds of experiences that really validate this whole practice. Yeah. Totally. No matter how you're doing it whether it's through shamanic journeying or other types of altered states or however you're getting there but it's wicked cool.
Sarah:Often people who who have taken Ayahuasca will experience other dimensional beings that that come into their experience also. But more in this plane even, you know, not necessarily in a journey state, but like in this dimension. They will be they will see beings that sometimes as kind of shadowy figures, sometime I don't know everybody's experience, but it's pretty interesting. Currently, there are four or five different other dimensional beings that come into my journeys, all of which were fascinating and and teach me a lot. You know?
Sarah:They teach me the questions to ask, which I find fascinating.
Wendy:Can you give an example of what you mean by that?
Sarah:Often, if I if I'm asking a question in my journey, sometimes I'm asking the wrong question.
Wendy:Okay.
Sarah:You know, like, I'll ask about one time I asked about the big bang. Like, what's that all about? And the first thing that was told to me was it's completely wrong. So we can't tell you about it, but we can tell you about something else that is but but at that point, when I said, well, what? How did this all come to be?
Sarah:And they said, your brain would not understand. So let's leave this.
Wendy:I get that. That makes perfect sense. Yeah.
Sarah:Yeah. I won't be able to grasp it.
Wendy:I think that's true with most of the nature of reality that our brains aren't really equipped to handle
Sarah:Yeah. I I think so.
Wendy:The greater picture.
Sarah:I think so. I think so. Yeah. We're so contained within this reality that we've that we've logged into. And but I find more and more, many people are moving into bigger places.
Sarah:You know?
Wendy:And what do you mean by that? More and more people are moving into bigger places.
Sarah:More and more people are reading about quantum physics and and, you know, the like, movies like Everything Everywhere All at Once. I mean, that's a pretty profound concept,
Wendy:which I
Sarah:I think is there's great truth to that, you know, that we we can access everything, everywhere, all at once. I think we have the capacity, and we just have to turn our brain on to these these bigger things.
Wendy:But anyway Do you think it's a reflection of our consciousness kind of expanding and
Sarah:Yeah.
Wendy:For whatever reason Yeah. Whether we have the capacity for it now or something else is shifting and allowing our consciousness? Yeah. I don't know. Exactly.
Sarah:Yeah. Exactly. We don't we don't know, but but we but it certainly seems to be a lot of people seem to be moving into these higher realms of or bigger realms. I don't like to say higher because that implies something, but bigger realms of of consciousness.
Wendy:Well, mean, they could be higher in in a just from a frequency place. We're pretty dense.
Sarah:Yeah. Literally.
Wendy:More ways than one. Yeah. I mean, this planet is especially when you get to other places that are less dense, the I mean, out of body experiences or near death experiences that the the description of coming back into the body feels very onerous. Like, it's like, it's it's Thank you. Yeah.
Wendy:I have to squeeze myself into this really kind of, yeah, dense place, dense like, getting toothpaste back into the the toothpaste tube. Yeah. Yeah. I can talk! So so, yeah, it could be higher frequency, meaning that rather than a a judgment call.
Sarah:Alright. I just don't like people to I I don't like using certain language that makes it seem as though you know, if you use the word higher, then people start to think, like, well, better than others.
Wendy:Right. Exactly.
Sarah:Yeah. And that's why I don't like using that language necessarily.
Wendy:Although it could be better. Yeah.
Sarah:It could be better. So what about you? What do you what do you oh, one thing I wanna say before Yeah. We hear your thoughts. I don't know anything.
Sarah:I I speculate about a lot of things. I experience a lot of things in my journeys that make me go, that was interesting. But I don't know anything. I and that that's like, I wanna just lay that out so that, you know, I don't hear from somebody that says, Yeah. Like, because I'm just trying to figure this life out.
Sarah:That's all I'm doing. So
Wendy:Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, you
Wendy:got to think about any of these experiences that anyone has. Yeah. You and I included that we're filtering them through our
Sarah:Exactly.
Wendy:Our understanding at this point in our lives. I'm gonna say it's pretty limited
Sarah:It is.
Wendy:Our understanding at this point. So I think we're all doing the best we can. But I guess the point you're trying to make is that saying it with any degree of certainty is probably not a good idea because we don't know.
Sarah:We don't know.
Wendy:We don't know, especially in this territory.
Sarah:Yeah. I mean, so much of it is the there's the information that you get from other dimensional spirit guides. But how do I interpret that? You know? I I have one guide who's, like, very Spock esch.
Sarah:He's, like, ridiculously intelligent and ridiculously serious. And I think he regards me he he seems to like me, but I think he regards me as He seems surprised. Like, he he thinks of me as, like, a kinda stupid dog. You know? Like, he has to, like, down down what's the word I'm looking for?
Sarah:Downgrade Downshift. All the Yeah. Downshift all the information so that my stupid little brain can understand it. And, you know, if I had been a science major, maybe then I'd have half a chance of of knowing more things. But I was an artist.
Sarah:You know? I was a psychology person. So, yeah, I know some things about things. But
Wendy:It's interesting that you're connected with very science based
Sarah:I know.
Wendy:Helpers in this realm. Yeah. Yeah. Do you intentionally just connect with them when you feel like, oh, I wanna learn more about x y z. Yeah.
Wendy:These are my specialists in that area. But or do they just show up randomly and impart information?
Sarah:No. It's always with intention that
Wendy:I Okay. That I will be journeying about
Sarah:a subject that I think, Oh, my Pleiadian guide, who's very, very she's very tuned into the emotional realms. She has a lot of insight into human nature and what makes us do some of the things we do, and how we can better navigate the realms of emotions. So if I have a question that's connected to something like that, I will may perhaps look to her for for assistance.
Wendy:That's super helpful.
Sarah:Yeah. It's very helpful. And then the other spockish character, he I like, if I think, gee, I wonder how that works. You know? Mhmm.
Wendy:Because I read He's your guy.
Sarah:I read things about quantum physics, which I love reading about. And I think, oh, yeah. Now I understand this thing. I understand dark matter. Okay.
Sarah:We're good. And then it's like I I can't hold it. It's too vast for my little brain. You know? And there's just too much I don't understand.
Sarah:So I might go to him and say, okay. Give me the cliff notes on what this really means. And he can he can often do it.
Wendy:Dumb it down.
Sarah:Dumb it down for me, buddy. Anyway, how about you? What what's your take on all this?
Wendy:Yeah. I I have had zero experiences. I may have seen a UAP at one point from a from a great distance, but other than that, I have no experience or at least recollection of any kind of contact, and I've never encountered any beings like you're describing in my journey work. But I have a deep fascination with it.
Sarah:Have you ever asked to meet?
Wendy:No. I have you know, I I have to say that I've been a little leery over the years of only because of and I I guess I'll call it a judgment around people who channel Oh. These beings. I buy into the concept of channeling. I really do.
Wendy:But I also know that humans are are, we're we can have some faulty wiring or our our egos can get in the way or whatever. And that, again, that interpretation piece. I mean, channeling, I guess, if if it's trans channeling. Right? The human aspect of you is out of the way, and you're just a a vehicle for another being to use your voice to communicate with the world.
Wendy:But I've always had a little skepticism or maybe a medium amount of skepticism around it because it's some of the stuff I heard, it sounded like bullshit, and it made me wonder if they were actually channeling or or I don't I I wasn't quite sure. It just left me with a question mark. And because people say things with with such certainty, it always left me with a little, like, I don't know. I I I just don't know. This is how it is, especially if they're talking about prophecy.
Wendy:Or
Sarah:Yeah. Yeah. The prophecy thing is is tricky. Yeah.
Wendy:Yeah. It it especially now, there's so many channelers coming out.
Sarah:Yeah. And
Wendy:and a lot of them are connecting with interdimensional beings. Yeah. And and they're not always consistent. And not that I'm listening to every single one, but, like, I'll hear little snippets here and there and I'll be like, I don't know. I just get a feeling.
Wendy:So I'm hesitant. I will say that there's, the guy who lives in your neck of the wood, Darryl Anka, the one who channels Bashar.
Sarah:Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Wendy:That stuff seems pretty grounded and helpful. Mhmm. Like, he's giving some helpful tips, really reasonable tips, and offering caution around listening to conspiracy theories. I thought that was a very that was actually the very first thing I ever heard Darryl Anka say in an interview with somebody is be cautious around conspiracy theory, like, where you're putting your energy around that stuff. Like, in other words, deception, being cautious around that.
Wendy:So I was like, alright. I will continue listening. But I think that's the important thing is that we all have to have discernment. We are we don't have to have it, but it would be probably a good thing to have discernment around what works for you and what makes sense. And the other thing about channelers is that the the thing about a lot of them have they could be Americans channeling, and they they always seem to have a British accent
Sarah:when they channel. What's what's that about? Yeah. It's true. And so I have done a lot of channeling in my life.
Sarah:Not currently. I don't I don't do it anymore. But I, for quite a while, channeled my Pleiadian guide. Okay. And it's really an interesting phenomena, channeling.
Sarah:Because what I found it to be and the way I did it was I would peep I would clients would ask me to to do a channeling on a specific, like, aspect of their life. And so what basically, what we were doing is getting a bigger picture of something in that somebody needed help with. That's that's how I was doing it. Okay. Which is basically still what I do in terms of helping people, except that I'm not channeling it.
Sarah:I mean, I am. I'm not I'm not verbalizing what I'm what I'm channeling. So this what I found about it is that when you connect with the being that you're channeling, you're receiving information in a nonverbal part of your brain. So this is my experience. I don't know about anybody else.
Sarah:But it's like you're getting a download of information into a nonverbal part of your brain, and you're understanding it in that part of your brain. And then you have to put it into English or language to tell the other person or
Wendy:That makes perfect sense.
Sarah:Yeah. So it's like it's it's a very, very weird sensation that that happens in your mind, body, spirit. It's it's like, woah. Takes a little getting used to, the feeling of it. And sometimes, as a channel, I think you you don't necessarily give it the exact correct words.
Sarah:Like, you're you're getting the information, then you're trans it's like translating the other language, and then you're speaking that thing. Mhmm. And I think a lot of people might not be great at at translating. You know? And and so they're giving this information.
Sarah:And like you said, maybe it's like, yeah. I don't know about that. And maybe they just don't have the skills to to Yeah.
Wendy:And and maybe at the different types of channeling too. So Yeah. The way you do it, which I think is a common way to channel is you're getting a download or you're getting a chunk of information, but it's not in verbal form. Right. And then you have to translate it using your understanding and your language.
Wendy:Yeah.
Sarah:Yeah.
Wendy:Yeah. And so you might fumble around a bit trying to do that. And then there's the trans channeling thing where you're checked out Yeah. And then someone's speaking through you.
Sarah:Yeah. I never felt like that was a good idea.
Wendy:To relinquish control like that.
Sarah:Yeah. I don't wanna relinquish control of this situation.
Wendy:Yeah. And maybe because I don't have that kind of experience. I mean, I have I like what you're describing, that's probably closer to what
Sarah:You do.
Wendy:What I'm experiencing. Yeah. Yeah. When I connect with people who've died.
Sarah:Yeah.
Wendy:Well. I get information. Yeah. And I might get little aspects of their personality or visuals of how they presented, but not the whole picture, not like seeing you. Right.
Wendy:But it's just all of a sudden I have a bunch of information in my head and I tried my best to relay that message to the person. That's just same kind of thing. Right? Is that A 100%. Yeah.
Wendy:Okay. So, yeah, that's been my question around not to to go off on channeling and stuff like that, but it left me feeling unsure about a lot of things. Wouldn't they all be giving a similar kind of message about the bigger picture stuff. I don't know. But maybe not.
Wendy:I don't know. Like, don't they have a committee?
Sarah:They could be giving. They I think they do have a committee, but, like, why would so I have an experience of channeling. And what's the guy you were just talking about?
Wendy:Oh, Darryl Anka. Yeah.
Sarah:Yeah. He has his experience, and his voice becomes very, like, weird when he's channeling. And, I mean so if I'm channeling this being from from the Pleiadian star system, presumably, she's not the only being that exists, and maybe there's like, the way we speak is individual, and maybe maybe that's individual too. I I'm not sure.
Wendy:Yeah. I have no idea. I was just saying I would think there would be more consistency. I but there are I'm I don't know. It doesn't matter.
Wendy:Getting back to the original thing around the whole, are we alone question. There seems to be this question around and it's coming up more and more because I've been doing some deep dives into the whole UAP phenomenon and and the abduction experience and all of that.
Sarah:What do you mean you've been doing deep dives
Wendy:since, Listening to podcasts and
Sarah:Oh, I see.
Wendy:Lots of interviews and Uh-huh. Just and, yeah, watching some documentaries and stuff like that. Just really interested and curious. So there seems to be, from what I can gather, kind of two two schools of thought in that and I could be wrong about this, but what I've witnessed is that there are people who feel like these that we are not alone, but that these other beings are traveling through our our physical universe some way to get here. And then there's this other school of thought that these beings are not necessarily in our physical universe, but in other dimensions and are
Sarah:Televisit community.
Wendy:Well, yeah, doing that and visiting also the so are the ones coming from this physical universe. They're communicating telepathically.
Sarah:Uh-huh.
Wendy:That's the similarity. There's one similarity there.
Sarah:So why do they have to be here if they're communicating telepathically? What's what's the what what's the intention according to these
Wendy:things you've you've been Well, but I don't I mean, why do they have to be here physically? Yeah. I don't know. I mean, but there there must be some reason because it seems like there's enough evidence to show that that we are being visited. But but the point is is that interdimensional, if they're interdimensional, if they're coming from other dimensions, that that that would be beyond our capacity to really understand how all of that works.
Wendy:So maybe we're trying to, that makes more sense to me that they would be interdimensional because of the way the crafts present themselves, how they they pop in and out of existence.
Sarah:But if you think about it okay. So this being that my science expert being, often, I go to his realm and kinda pop in on him. So, in fact, I'm another dimensional being Right. His realm. Right?
Sarah:Because you know how to do that. Right. I do it psychically? Right. Right?
Wendy:But could it be that they know how to do this in a much or or are they living in a different dimension where things just operate differently and the physics are different?
Sarah:Yeah. I think so.
Wendy:I mean, I'm I'm way out of my league here. But it just do. There's so there's so much mystery and question about it, and nobody really knows. Some people think they know from what I've gathered, but it's there's a big fucking question mark about it all. That's what makes it really fascinating because it's like, oh, what is going on here?
Wendy:And then do they mean well? Do they mean harm? And how many different species of interdimensional beings or aliens or whatever you wanna call them? Yeah. Yeah.
Wendy:Steven
Sarah:Greer's a big big name in this Steven Greer? Isn't he?
Wendy:Yeah. He is a big name. He's also a controversial name.
Sarah:Oh, is he? Oh. Yeah.
Wendy:I think so.
Sarah:Out of him. Yeah.
Wendy:There's a lot of names creeping up now. There's a big movement in this direction. There's a big movement happening. It should be very interesting in the next couple of years to see. I I think more and more is gonna unfold with it.
Wendy:Yeah. That's just more of an intuition.
Sarah:Yeah.
Wendy:And based on all the channelers I've listened to.
Sarah:Yeah. When you would channel dead people who are no longer here, Did you have a sense of what you were connecting with? Like, what so they're not in physical form anymore. When you're channeling that being, what it what are you connecting with?
Wendy:Well, most likely, like we were talking about last time or the time before, the oversoul Oh. Of that person. But I'm seeing the identity they had
Sarah:Got it.
Wendy:In the lifetime that they just lived.
Sarah:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense.
Wendy:Or lived related to the person I'm talking to and Yeah. With my client or whatever.
Sarah:Yeah.
Wendy:Yeah. Because that imprint is in their over soul and so Got it. It I it can show itself in that way or present itself that way. The oversoul The higher self, whatever you wanna call it.
Sarah:Yeah. But but the oversoul from your training contains many different beings?
Wendy:All the identities.
Sarah:All the identities. Uh-huh. Right. Right. Right.
Sarah:Right.
Wendy:That's And there's there's no time there. It's not linear time. So all of these identities are probably having experiences
Sarah:Yeah.
Wendy:At the same time.
Sarah:Doing all at once. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.
Wendy:Exactly. Which is way too much to wrap your head around. I don't think so. The future ones and then how they're all impacting the oversold field as they're having experiences and hopefully evolving. Yeah.
Wendy:And then all the information that's there that you have access to, whether you're aware of it or not.
Sarah:Yeah.
Wendy:Wicked cool.
Sarah:One of the things that I speculated on I mean, what I I would call that the higher self, but let's use your language for this, the oversoul. One of the things that I have speculated on and pondered and wonder about is, are these beings that I'm connecting with part of my oversoul? Great question.
Wendy:Yeah. Why couldn't they be? Because they're having experiences too. Yeah. And that's one of the things I learned in some of my shamanic training was that some of these identities are living on different planets, having different experiences.
Wendy:And why couldn't they be in other dimensions? There's not just planet Earth.
Sarah:Exactly. So it is Everything everywhere all at once.
Wendy:Yeah. Exactly.
Sarah:So bad.
Wendy:Like And different kinds of experiences too. Yeah. We went to a water planet where you were a water creature.
Sarah:Uh-huh.
Wendy:Or you could see what life was like on that planet. Some of the experiences, you could be humanoid, some of them not.
Sarah:Yeah. And interestingly enough, the more I've connected so I started connecting with these other dimensional beings probably, I don't know, twenty years ago, give or take, fifteen to twenty years ago. But what I have found more and more is that I don't actually have to go anywhere or call them, that that I actual that that they're, like, accessible just always.
Wendy:Exactly. That's the conclusion I'm coming to more and more. Yeah. Is that because we're trained to travel with our consciousness out. Yeah.
Wendy:Yeah. That started happening less and less as the information was just presenting itself in my Yeah. In my awareness. Right? Is that kind of what you're talking about?
Sarah:That's totally what I'm talking about.
Wendy:Yeah. I've
Sarah:never talked to anybody else who said this. So this is interesting because we've been doing this work roughly the same amount of time.
Wendy:Mhmm.
Sarah:And we're evolving tremendously. I mean, like, I was I didn't know anything
Wendy:Well, speak for yourself.
Sarah:No, I was like a dumb bunny. I started journeying. I was like, what a raven? You know, like, it was like I had encountered, you know? Yeah.
Sarah:And then and then over time, all these different beings come into your journey form. But, yeah, they're they're actually there. And Yes. You don't have to
Wendy:travel to them. Yeah.
Sarah:They go anywhere. They're just, like, there, and you can get that information from them. And Much quicker. Oh, almost instantaneously. You know?
Sarah:So that's super interesting that we both have had that evolution. We haven't talked about that.
Wendy:No. We haven't.
Sarah:And there are those that would probably say, okay. These two people are completely nuts, except that And they'd be right. Well, I don't think so. I disagree. I mean, yeah, nuts.
Sarah:I don't know. We managed what is nuts? That's like a whole other episode. But
Wendy:I mean it in a cute way.
Sarah:I know. I know. I know what you meant. But but the fact that you're we had now have access to, like, the bare minimum of everything everywhere all at once. But we do.
Sarah:Our consciousness is expanding so that we are connecting with with these things in in kind of a daily way.
Wendy:Yeah. I wonder if that's a byproduct of a bigger evolution that's happening that's making that a possibility or if it's just a byproduct of doing it over a long period of time?
Sarah:I think both.
Wendy:Okay. Yeah. It seems like, yeah, there's a greater a greater opening and awareness happening that's available to more humans now, to more of
Sarah:us? Yeah.
Wendy:Or that's wishful thinking.
Sarah:No. I see it. I mean, I work with a lot of young people, like, in their, you know, late twenties, early thirties, and I think, woah. How are these people? Like, they're so plugged in.
Wendy:Yeah. It's extraordinary. Yeah. Well, I guess to be continued.
Sarah:Are we finished? Oh my gosh. That went so fast. That went super fast.
Wendy:Yeah.
Sarah:I mean, I had when I woke up this morning, I thought, I don't even know what I'm gonna say about this. And I have found it to be very interesting.
Wendy:Yeah. Absolutely. And I learned more more cool stuff about you.
Sarah:And and me about you. And I'm very intrigued by our, like, perma perma spirit guides that that occupy our consciousness.
Wendy:Yeah. Yeah. We'll have to explore that some more.
Sarah:I I think so. And, you know, like your question, is it is it a phenomena that's happening? Or is it just we've been doing the work for so long? Or Or both. Or both.
Sarah:I I'm gonna ask around I'm in contact still with a few people that did the three year program at the foundation with me, and I'm going to ask what their opinions I'd like to do a little survey.
Wendy:If they notice any difference in their experience of perception? Yeah. Or getting information, receiving information. Yeah, okay.
Sarah:Exactly. All right.
Wendy:All right. Always lovely to see you.
Sarah:Always lovely to see you.
Wendy:Let's do it again next week.
Sarah:Donna Okay.
Wendy:Donna Bye. Donna Bye bye.