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Welcome to Untethered Consciousness, hosted by Rod Bland, where we share stories and insights to help you answer the most fundamental of questions: Who am I?
Through the conversations that we have with our guests, we aim to help you reach your own conclusions about the nature of our existence.
Benny Ferguson: Your
true nature is endless.
It has no beginning.
It has no end.
You're pure consciousness.
You are existing now on
multiple planes of existence,
having multiple experiences.
Now you've had existed on many
planes in many dimensions.
You've had many lifetimes that
have led you to this point.
Think about it.
Many of you that are listening
to this conversation, this
interaction, five, ten years
ago, you weren't open to
this type of interaction.
Rod Bland: With me today
is Benny Ferguson, Jr.
Thanks for coming
on the show, Benny.
Benny Ferguson: Yeah, Ron,
it's awesome to be here.
We're excited.
Rod Bland: Yeah, me too.
Uh, we were just saying
off the air that's really
my first introduction to,
I guess anything really.
Well, anything esoteric
apart from UFOs because
I've been interested in
that for a long time.
But as far as channeling
goes, especially was
the work of, uh, Esther
Hicks with, uh, Abraham.
And so I was really excited
to get your email to, uh, have
you on as a guest on the show.
So, um, I'm curious about
your, your personal journey
with channeling Abraham.
So can you share a bit
about how this connection
first began for you and
how it's evolved over time?
Benny Ferguson: Yeah, well,
the connection for me, um,
I guess I started channeling
back in 2012 is when I, when
I realized I was channeling.
Now, to tell the truth,
looking back, I was, I had
already begun channeling.
I just didn't know.
And the funny thing is
it was with school when
I was in college, um,
when I had a paper to write.
And this, this is, it seems
funny and weird at the same
time when I tell it, but,
when I would have a paper
to write, I would get, do
all the research and have
the paper, have everything
ready, but I could never
actually get my mind straight
to sit down and write it
until the night before.
And the night before, it would
be 12:30, 1:00 o'clock, it's
due the next day, and the
whole paper, three, four, five
page paper would come through.
And, and now looking back,
the way it happened, I was
being supported then and
just didn't realize it.
So it was, You know, and
then finding out later that
this is something that I
had done before prev in
previous lifetimes and it's
something that I said I
was going to do this time.
And so looking back Over my
life, you know, starting as
a child, I was having what
I called nightmares in like
early elementary school.
I was trying to, they
were trying to contact me
and kind of get me moving
along this path back then.
I just wasn't ready.
Right.
I was in religion and
my family and all my
family was in religion.
So I had no framework for
any of this type of thing
until 2006 when I had a
spontaneous out of body
experience and so that kind
of forced me to start looking
outside of religion and
outside of all the things
that I had grown up around.
Um, and when I first
started channeling, I
wasn't channeling Abraham.
Um, I was listening
to a lot of Esther.
Uh, I had watched The
Secret and, and kind of
got intrigued by that.
Um, I don't know how many
people did this, but I, all
of the people that were in The
Secret, I went and found their
websites and all that stuff,
and I looked for information
on what they studied to
get to where they were.
And so I found all their
book lists and all these
things that they suggested,
bought all the books,
read all of the stuff that
they read, on their way.
And then of course I was
listening to the videos
and that type of thing.
And then for whatever
reason, you know, I started
channeling with, with Abraham
and I, and I asked if it
was them, cause it kind of
felt similar to how I felt
sometimes when I was listening
to them on the videos.
And, um, we've kind of been
doing it for a while now.
I guess probably, you know,
2006, I started, no, not
2006, 2012, I started and
not shortly after It's been
me channeling them, but in
the initial, it wasn't them.
And I know it wasn't them.
I could feel different
vibrational presences on me
and I could interpret what
they were communicating to me.
And I, you know,
I recorded them.
Sometimes I would
speak in some, I
started off writing it.
typing, trying to get
the, make sure I could
hold the connection.
Uh, and then I moved from
typing it to trying to speak
it because I was seeing
other people speaking.
So I was trying to
speak and make sure I
stay out of the way.
So the connection was clear,
you know, and, and then trying
to just went from there.
And then when I asked the
question, because like I
said, this feeling felt
similar and they said it
was Abraham Collective
and all of this stuff.
So I'm asking
questions just for me.
You know, in the beginning,
like, okay, who and what?
And so it kind of just
progressed from there.
And we've kind of just
developed and I've worked to
try to get better at allowing
them to communicate through
me so that we can be the, the
level of support that now I
know that I'm inspired to be,
which is, which is supporting
beings who are human at this
moment to be the most powerful
versions of themselves
and know who they are.
While they're walking
physically and not after
they make the transition.
Rod Bland: You mentioned the
spontaneous OBE that occurred.
I'm fascinated by OBEs.
Can you tell us a bit more
about what happened there?
Benny Ferguson: Yeah, it's,
um, well, at the time I
was working in financial
services, I was fully
licensed, uh, insurance,
mutual funds, and different
things that we were offering.
And You know, I've always
been a, a strong learner
and all of that stuff.
And so I knew everything
that I needed to do.
I just couldn't get
myself to do it right.
As far as the performance
making the calls, there was
extreme fear of rejection
there, uh, as far as one of
the fears that was in between
me and being able to actually
perform, make the calls and,
and go on the sales calls
while the guy that trained me.
He was very successful at
the time and he's still
doing that business.
He's very, very
financially successful.
Our vice president who
had more, who has and had
multiple offices at that time.
I mean, he was doing close
to six figures a month.
And so I spent a lot of
time around these guys.
Right.
I ate with them.
We went to conventions
and stuff together.
So I knew everything they
knew about the business.
And so I, but I couldn't get
myself to do the activities.
I didn't know then it was
the fears and all of that
stuff that I had in my mind.
Uh, but so I was driving
home one day, about a
30 hour, 30 minute drive
from the office back home.
And I was just
upset with myself.
Right.
I started crying.
I'm so upset.
Like what's wrong with me?
And I can't do the, I see
these guys doing it, but
I can't get myself to do
it to the level that I
need to, to even be at
the place financially I
need to be for myself.
And so I think a couple of
weeks later, I had, uh, and
this is what, this is 2006.
I had another fear
based dream, nightmare.
Um, and right before I woke
up, I told myself that I
was tired of being afraid.
And when I woke up, I was in
an angry and I, it felt like
fire was coming off of me and
I got up and I was standing
beside my bed and I was just
furious at myself, you know,
just tired of being afraid of
just life in general, knowing,
not knowing how to get myself
to do some of the things that
I've always been inspired to
do, you know, be in business.
And, and I've been leading
since I was, A 14 year
old overweight kid, you
know, I've been doing
things and leading people.
And, uh, my wife came
around the front of the bed.
This is like at 1.
30 in the morning.
She's asking me to calm down.
And then it happened and
I was behind my body.
My vision was 360 degrees.
I can see my body, I can
see my wife in front of
me, asking me to calm down.
And it took all I had to
keep myself from attacking
her because I was so upset.
And so what seemed like
a long time was probably
just, you know, barely
a second, maybe two.
Then I was back in my body
and I turned and I, hit the
bookshelf that was beside me.
And so that's how I know
it wasn't a dream, right?
So because the next few
days, the next week, my hands
were still all bruised up.
Um, so that's kind of
what got me out of the
religion idea and on
the path of looking for,
okay, what happened to me?
I see that there's more
now, so I need to figure
out what's really going on.
And Rod, I tell you, when
that happened, I asked one
question that has kind of
been the overarching umbrella,
which I've gathered, I've
put everything that I've
learned up under, because
you know, there's so many
different ways you can go.
Like you said, from, from
UFOs and all of the stuff
out there that is, you
know, non physical things,
psychic things that we, that
are potentials for us that
we can go down, the road
paths that we can go down.
But I asked one question,
I said, Since I know now
that what I'm seeing and,
and the body and all these
things is not the truth,
I'm gonna find out what's
going on and what's true.
But what control and power do
I have in and over my life?
That's the only question
I've got because I can't get
myself to do what I, what
I wanna do in my life here.
What control and power
do I have if none of this
stuff is really real,
if it's not the truth.
And so everything that I've
learned, I've put under that
one question and everything
that I've learned under that
question is what I have for
people to support people with.
And so that's been
my guiding point ever
since that happened.
Rod Bland: Yeah, there's
often a catalyst, isn't
there, that causes you to
rethink your entire existence.
Benny Ferguson: Yeah.
I'm fine.
And even with, you know, as
I listened to other people's
stories and, you know,
other guests that you've
had, it's very similar.
Rod Bland: So, um, I'm deeply
grateful that you're sharing
your personal journey with
us, Benny, and if it fills
a line for you, I'd like
to invite Abraham to join
the conversation directly.
Would that be okay?
Benny Ferguson: Yeah.
Rod Bland: Awesome.
Just for people who are
watching that maybe not
familiar with channels, could
you, um, just describe the
process and what it's like for
you to, to do the channeling?
Benny Ferguson: Well, it's
not, it's for me and I don't
know if this is something
that they have developed or
not they have developed, but.
I don't really have
to do anything, right?
It's like, they're
always here.
And, and I mean, they're
here right now and they're
ready to start talking.
And, and they try to,
they tell me to stop
saying we, right.
And that it's just us,
you know, um, but I don't
really have to do anything.
There's no process
or anything.
I just,
Kind of get out of the
way and then just start
communicating what's
being communicated to me.
And it comes from
this direction.
I can tell you that.
It comes from this direction.
That's, that's
where I perceive the
information coming.
But like I said, I don't
really have to do anything.
So we can, we can
rock and roll.
Rod Bland: Amazing.
So you're, you're, um, you're
fully conscious of everything
that's said or like, uh,
Benny Ferguson: I am, but I,
I, I remember bits and pieces
because I'd, like I said, I
try to stay out of the way.
If I try to, if I try to
interpret and understand
and participate, the
connection is not as pure.
What's going to happen is when
I first start, it may sound
a little slow and a little
choppy, but as we go on,
it'll get cleaner and it'll be
like we're talking right now.
Rod Bland: All right.
Fascinating.
All right.
Well, I've got it.
I've got a few questions here.
Benny Ferguson: Okay.
Rod Bland: Um, so, um,
Abraham's mentioned, I've
heard mentioned often that
our experiences have got
seeds or causes that's rooted
in our thoughts and beliefs.
So how can we identify
and transforming any
limiting belief undesired
outcomes in our lives?
Benny Ferguson: Yeah, that's
an excellent question.
That's an excellent question.
And we are here.
Yeah, we're always here.
We're, we're always kind of.
Behind the scenes, trying
to, trying to push through.
Benny does a lot on his
own through his experience
and he's had a lot and, you
know, believe it or not, in
a short amount of time, we've
supported a lot of people.
And so he has a lot of
information, but we're
always behind the scenes
and excited to come
through and participate in
conversations like this.
Um, identifying limiting
beliefs, identifying those
dominant ideas within the
human, the being who is
human, which is each of you.
that limits you, that
stands in resistance or in
conflict to that which you
desire, that which you are
inspired to be, do, and have.
The truth is, it's
right in front of you.
It's always in front of you.
Anything that
feels off, anything that
you might call negative,
a negative happening,
these are ideas within
you being reflected.
You have to understand that
That which is appearing
outside of you is a
reflection of, and the
truth is that those closest
to you reflect it at a
higher frequency than what
you might call a stranger.
But anything that's
appearing outside of you
is a reflection of you.
It's telling you what type
of ideas exist within you.
Now, you may not be
conscious of those ideas,
But when you can start
saying and believing
in yourself, okay, I'm
paying attention to what's
happening outside of me.
This was great.
Okay, that's fine.
This experience, not so great.
I really didn't like it.
So what is it that was,
is within me that aligned
me with that experience?
And we understand
that sometimes you don't want
to take responsibility for it.
Sometimes you don't want to
say, you don't want to believe
that I in any way had any part
in creating this experience.
But your plane of existence
is built that way.
Period.
That which is appearing
outside of you is a
reflection of you.
Some way you are aligning
with that experience.
The collaborative components
that show up outside of
you in support of you to
create experience are there
because of what you are
offering energetically.
So once you have an experience
that you, that is undesirable,
you can go into what you
call your meditation and
ask your inner being.
And these are, there's,
there's pieces and parts to
these things that you want to
get, maybe get familiar with.
Before you really jump into,
but our biggest suggestion,
what we support people
in understanding is that,
number one, your imagination
is a two way mirror.
It's not a one way mirror.
Oftentimes individuals
think that, hey, they can
daydream or they can imagine
something and put it on
the screen of their mind.
But think about your dreams.
When you have a dream,
there's imagery there that
you're not putting there.
So where does it come from?
Well, it's coming
from your inner being.
It's giving you imagery
based on things that you
are familiar with trying
to communicate with you.
So your,
so your imagination
is a two way mirror.
It's a two way mirror
or a two way window.
So what we suggest, you go
into meditation, get yourself
into a high vibration, ask
your inner being what ideas
Are there that's aligning
me with this experience?
Or what ideas am I carrying
that are resisting that
which I am trying to create?
And allow it to show you via
the imagery of how the idea
is represented within you.
on the screen of your mind
because you don't want to
skip over these things.
Resistance, inner conflict
is not something that you
just don't, you just want
to get rid of because
it's there for a reason.
These ideas inside of you are
there perfectly for a reason
for you to support you when
you're growth and expansion.
So when you become aware
of these things, you
want to understand them.
You will first want to bring
them into the light with the
support of your inner being.
You want to understand them.
You want to understand
and know, okay, what's the
difference between these
ideas that I'm carrying and
the truth of you and source?
And then you want
to transform them.
And you transform them
by utilizing whatever
imagery that you're inner
being deems necessary
to release that idea.
And it's interesting,
sometimes it may be casting
it off into space somewhere
where you cannot reach
and it cannot return.
Whatever your inner
being suggests, that's
what you should do.
But the crux of it is.
Allow your inner being to
support you because it can see
that which is within your mind
and body as a dominant idea.
That which you cannot see at
the moment that you're not
conscious of, your inner being
can see, but you have to ask.
You have to ask and you have
to be in the position to be
able to allow that support
and be aware of how your inner
being is communicating to you.
That's why we said there,
there are steps from our
perspective that you need
to play with so that you
can be familiar with.
How your inner being
communicates to you.
Are you more feeling or are
you imagery or are you both?
We've had clients that
are one or the other or
they're kind of balanced.
Sometimes people are
more feeling when their
inner being communicates.
They're more so
about the feeling.
Sometimes they are more
perceptive of the imagery.
But the key is allow
your inner being to
show you by asking.
Allow your inner being
to show you what is there
and then work with it.
That's our Sajid.
Rod Bland: Thank you.
One of the purposes of my
channel is to wake people
up to the reality of who
and what they actually are.
Like they're just not
this physical being.
How would you describe the
nature of us as human beings?
Benny Ferguson: Oh
man, you're true.
Your true nature is endless.
It has no beginning.
It has no end.
You're pure consciousness.
You are existing now on
multiple planes of existence,
having multiple experiences.
Now you've had existed on many
planes in many dimensions.
You've had many lifetimes that
have led you to this point.
Think about it.
Many of you that are listening
to this conversation, this
interaction, five, ten years
ago, you weren't open to
this type of interaction.
But now you are, and that's
the result of your evolution,
not of this lifetime, but
of multiple lifetimes that
have placed you here to
listen to this interaction.
But the truth is,
you are eternal.
You are infinite.
And the only reason you do
not know that at this moment,
and you're not living and
breathing that truth, is
your current vibrational
expression, your current
position vibrationally
that you're offering in
the contents of your mind.
That which you
are believing in.
That's the only reason
you don't do not know.
And that's by design.
At the same time, As you
grow and understand the
truth of you, now you
understand why you're
putting in not the work,
but the play and practice
to get back to that point.
And it's not something
where you're having
to add things to you.
It's about letting go and
releasing the things that
are already within you.
The more you release, the
more truth The more light
will shine through you.
It's about releasing.
It's not about adding.
Mm-Hmm.
Rod Bland: I've heard you
say something along the
lines of that it's really
important that you align
yourself with things that
inspire you so that you
can live a fulfilling life.
And how do we distinguish,
sorry, let me say that
again, how do we distinguish
between these authentic sort
of soul level inspirations
and, and things that
are more ego driven or
societal conditioning?
Benny Ferguson: Mm-Hmm
Most of you that are, many
of you that are listening
to this, if you have
actually begun to play
and practice the work, if
you will, of releasing,
you have become aware of
those ideas within you.
Well, let's, let's
talk about this.
Let's talk about ideas within
you as mature beings who
are human that you know have
been present for a long time.
Many of you, many
of you have ideas.
You have been inspired
to things that have been
present for a long time and
you understand what we're
talking about because you
have been around mature
adults who are about to make
their transition and then
you have conversations with
them and they talk about
things that they always wanted
to do but they never did.
Those are inspirations.
Those are not just, hey, I
think I want to do this, or
hey, that's, I think I want to
get that car, or hey, I think
I want to go to this place.
Those are inspirations that
bubbled up inside of them
at a certain point in their
life, and they never left,
right?
Benny's dad talks about
being interested in
being a marine biologist.
He said that multiple
times in conversation.
But of course, he believes
that he's too old to go back
to school and do all these
things, but he will say it
out of his mouth that this is
something that he's thought
about and been interested
in for many, many years.
That's an inspiration.
And each of you understand
that ideas that have never
left you and why the reason
is so powerful and the
reason it has never left.
is because that idea was
a part of the plan that
you set for yourself
before you entered into
your physical body.
And if you can be of the
vibrational expression of
the mental framework that
allows you to move down that
path, there are things in
place that you have been
set for you that help you in
your growth and expansion,
your evolution, if you will.
Now, do you have to do it?
No, but if you're capable
of doing it, you would
be breathing the life
that you actually set for
yourself and that feeling
highly recognizable for
each individual when you
know that you're living
your life in the way that
you're inspired to live.
It's a way of living that It's
part of what we're supporting
individuals to get to, but
understanding that the idea
of being inspired to do
something, that swelling of
high energy when something
appears or an idea and you're
like, that would be awesome.
I really, really want
to do that versus just
an, a fleeting idea of
the mind connected to
the mind of humanity.
There's a significant
difference in the feeling.
that allows you to understand
and the longevity of the idea.
An idea born of the mind
of humanity that sparks
in, it comes and goes.
That which you are
inspired to doesn't leave.
It stays.
You go to bed with it.
You wake up with it.
You go to bed with it.
You wake up with it.
You get frustrated at
not having acted on it.
Those are inspirations
born of your inner being,
trying to show you a path
that would be highest and
best for you to follow.
Yeah.
And what you just
Rod Bland: And there's a,
there's a lot of suffering
and injustice in the world
and it can be challenging to
hold this perspective that
everything is unfolding,
you know, perfectly well
from a higher viewpoint.
So how would you guide
someone to reconcile their,
you know, people that want
to have a compassion and a
desire to help with what's
going on and there's this
kind of wisdom of general
acceptance of how things are.
Benny Ferguson: The truth
is, as you go down the path
of personal development,
growth, evolution, from a
frequency perspective, the
more you develop and elevate
yourself, along your personal
journey, vibrationally, that
type of understanding opens
up and comes into you and the
more you're able to accept
the truth of the fact that
there is a greater planet
world for each individual,
and that all is perfect, and
that for each individual, if
you truly want to affect the
world, it's a matter of where
you're placing your attention.
Right?
We had a conversation with
someone recently, and they
were asking a similar question
about things happening in the
world, and we brought to light
for them, which they knew,
but they, you know, it's not
where you place your focus.
They knew that simultaneously,
while it looks like things
are bleak on the planet, at
the same time, there were,
there are millions of people
around the world consuming
information like this.
Right?
But you wouldn't know
that because mass media
is not showing these
type things, right?
So there is
excellence, brilliance,
perfection at play.
Vibrationally, number one,
that which you perceive to
be not so great is alignment
happening for individuals
and for groups, right?
In a low vibrational position,
but it's perfect because
each one was low vibrational
on this plane of existence
before they raised their
frequency and and got to a
higher place or positioned
themselves to even be open
to these type transmissions.
But there's also another
sector going on where
Individuals, like we said,
are listening and consuming
this type information
quietly, organically growing
in vibrational expression,
cleansing themselves of low
vibrational belief systems,
dominant ideas, and bringing
more light into the world.
Right?
And the more this happens,
the more each of you as
individuals participate in
this side of the happenings,
and the more light is released
into and onto your planet,
there's a critical mass
place that will get crossed,
to the point where it would
be undeniable that you were
able to look out and see.
Experiences being created
born of brighter light because
of the numbers of beings who
are human on your planet are
allowing it to flow through
each of them as individuals.
But it still comes back
to acceptance, both
personally and looking
out into the world.
Acceptance that things are
happening perfectly and that
each one is perfectly on
their own individual journey.
It really is about acceptance.
That was a perfect
word to use.
Rod Bland: Abraham, I've
read many of your books
and you've often emphasize
the power of focusing
on what you want rather
than what you don't want.
Um, yet we're also, this
is a conversation I often
have with my wife is that
we're, we're advised to
allow and fully feel our
genuine emotions as well.
So how can we honor our
feelings without sort of
amplifying the negative things
through our attention to them?
Benny Ferguson: hmm.
Well, you honor them
by loving yourself anyway.
Yes, I feel this way,
but I'm not standing
in judgment of myself.
I'm not calling myself
good, bad, right,
wrong, or negative.
I'm just seeing it.
I see that I feel this way.
And I love myself regardless.
Now the question is,
what is that doing?
What effect is that having?
The effect that that's having
is that the idea within you
that is the catalyst of that,
what you might call a low
vibrational idea, that is
the catalyst of the feeling.
When you love yourself in the
midst of feeling that idea
being expressed, The vibration
of the love, the vibration of
the acceptance, the vibration
of being excited, being able
to watch the movement within
the mind and body and not
be moved by it, not be moved
into action by it, that energy
is affecting the
idea within you,
right?
It's disrupting the idea.
And the more often you're
able to do that, you're
actually dissolving those
low vibrational ideas that
are causing these types
of feelings to present
themselves inside of you.
But it's about getting to
the place where you're able
to, number one, witness those
expressions within your body.
and being strong enough
not to be affected or moved
by them, but to love them.
Loving yourself in
the midst of it.
Does that make sense?
Rod Bland: Yes, that does.
That's, that's very useful.
Benny Ferguson: Awesome.
Rod Bland: So the, the, the
path of spiritual growth,
for want of a better word,
it can be a bit lonely at
times and, um, it's, or it's
misunderstood by other people.
And this is true for me.
So what advice would you
offer to someone who's
feeling isolated or perhaps
a little bit discouraged in
their process of awakening?
Benny Ferguson:
Continue the path.
Continue the path.
Uh, intend, intend to come
in contact with like minded
people because they're out
there feeling very similar.
Sometimes feeling stuck,
not knowing what's next,
not knowing if they're doing
the right thing or not.
Right?
Not knowing what the
next process is, what
they should be doing.
Um, and yes, oftentimes at
this moment, individuals
who have become aware of
the truth and are seeking
to be an expression of
their truth are amongst
individuals not on that
same path, not in the same
position, which is perfect
because as you grow, You are a
vibrational model for
those that you are around.
So it's perfect,
but you can look out, like
we said, on your social
media and see that there
are others on the same path.
You can intend to come
in contact with others
on the same path.
But we do understand
the, that feeling.
We do understand that feeling.
That feeling is something that
Benny has experienced
and gone through often.
Often.
Even though he supports
individuals who are on this.
path.
Intending to, if it's
necessary, if that's a
strong desire, but intending
to come in contact with
individuals so that you can
have similar like minded
conversations is one way.
But the truth is, as you
move down this path, the
stronger you will get because
the truth of you in source,
the truth of you in source,
in the truth of you in source,
all exist,
and what you are becoming
is a powerful individual
who is not only detached
from the happenings on your
plane of existence, but
is a source of light on
your plane of existence.
Rod Bland: Hmm.
This question just popped into
my head, so it must be one
that a lot of people have.
What actually happens
to us when we die?
Benny Ferguson: Well, the
first part of that is that
you never die, actually.
You just transition.
You make your transition.
And when you make your
transition, you evaluate
that which you created
in your life experience.
If we just use this plane
of experience, you evaluate
what was created and
you decide on the next.
Is there something that you
want to continue to explore
on this plane of existence?
Or is there another plane
that you desire to explore?
to go and create
an experience.
It depends on that which you
were capable of creating in
your life and also where you
are in your soul's evolution
in the overall grand scheme
of that which is You, but
there's no true death.
There's no death.
Consciousness does not die.
Consciousness exists.
Consciousness is eternal.
Therefore, you are.
Yes,
Rod Bland: I've heard
you mention that in our
natural state we've got
access to an abundance of
insights and guidance and
I'm always looking for ways
to help, uh, tap into that.
So, um, what daily practices
or rituals would you
recommend for someone to
help strengthen that ability
to tap into that intuition?
Benny Ferguson: that is
a matter of frequency.
Tapping into your,
your abilities, your,
those abilities, those
abilities that exist
for each of you is a
matter of frequency.
What we don't, what, what
is misunderstood or not
known is that Truth is
a matter of frequency.
There are higher truths
that open up to you based
on your frequency, based on
your vibrational expression,
and therefore, and this
is the evolution, this is
the growth that happens.
If you think about the
spiritual teacher, someone
in your history that, that
made it into a book, right,
was written about, or
something of that nature,
the play and practice, the
meditations, all these things
that they did for many,
many years, the releasing
that they played with and that
they practiced that was a part
of their growth and expansion.
was about their
vibration raising.
Which is the same
thing for you.
As you go down this path
of growth and expansion,
as you take in this
material, and as you release
resistance organically,
your vibration rises.
And when you hold a higher
frequency, and it can be a
fraction of a, if we use your
higher lower idea, it can be
a fraction of an elevation,
of elevating in frequency from
where you are now normally.
That next level of frequency
expression held consistently
will open you up to ideas
born of that frequency,
which in turn opens you
up to new and greater
truths and understandings,
perception of life,
interpretation of life events.
This is what grows and expands
you into being able to accept
that which is happening
around you on your planet.
It's a matter of frequency.
It's a matter of vibration.
Does that make sense?
Rod Bland: it does.
So is it necessary for us to
be really good meditators or
is there some Is it just a
matter of if our frequency is
raised, that helps us like,
you know, say through music
or just being in nature is,
is, is that all we need to do?
Benny Ferguson: There you go.
There's the, the idea is to
understand what the purpose
of meditation is, right?
The purpose of meditation.
If you think about someone
sitting still, being still
in a quiet space where
they're doing, they're
shutting off their senses.
Right?
If you turn down the volume
on things so that you don't
have any input coming into
your hearing, you have your
eyes closed so you don't
have anything coming into
your, your seeing, you're not
eating or tasting anything.
So all of those things
are shut down and
you're being still.
And if you're doing a
meditation where you're
just focusing on your
breath, what are you doing?
You're giving your mind
something to focus on
because you can't quiet
the mind, but you can give
it something to focus on,
which stops all the chatter.
And when all the chatter
stops and your mind is not
jumping to and fro, normally
on ideas of low vibration,
normally considering things
that you do not want, well,
naturally, in that space,
your vibration lives.
This is the purpose of
meditation, giving the
mind something to focus
on so that you can begin
to become aware of what it
feels like within the body.
to not to be not to be
weighted by all of those
low vibrational ideas that
you're a person normally
considers throughout the day.
All the worries, all the
doubts, all the fears
that are ignited within
based on observing the
outside experiences
happening outside of them.
That's the purpose
of meditation.
But when you understand
that It's all about
raising your frequency.
That's at the core.
That's what's happening
when you give the mind
something to focus on.
Then you can shift.
Yes, you can still use it as
a tool, but then you can shift
to exactly what you said.
Music is a perfect way,
but actually it's anything
that lifts your spirits.
Anything that lifts
your, when we say spirit,
we're talking about your
vibration, your frequency.
It can be the remembering
of a beautiful experience.
It can be a favorite song.
It can be the idea
of the rainbow.
Anything that offers
a pure expression.
If you can situate yourself
in that feeling place and
lift even, like we said,
even a fraction of an
amount above your normal
walking around state and
hold it consistently.
the point.
And then understand why that
matters and what you're doing.
You're conditioning your body.
You're conditioning
your body to a higher
vibrational state of which
your mind aligns itself.
Your brain begins to
physically align itself
with this new vibrational
state, but you have to
be consistent with it.
You have to be
consistent with it.
Consistency is the key in this
practice, in these processes.
Consistency is the key.
This is what all of
your, what you would
call a spiritual master.
This is what they did.
They were consistent.
Oftentimes they went
to locations to where
they weren't bothered.
But each of you listening
to this information, if you
are living your life as a
normal being who is human,
and you're about to play in
practice of being consistent,
You're going to be much
stronger more quickly than
those spiritual teachers that
you read about because many
of them went to locations,
isolated locations, to
get to the place that they
were and they weren't being
bombarded through their
senses by everyday life, work,
family, marriage, children,
strangers, neighbors,
all of these things.
You are on this play about
this play and practice
while living your life.
So you're getting stronger,
faster, but it's still
about consistency.
It's still about consistency.
Rod Bland: Abraham, before
we wrap up, I'm, I'm curious
if you have any specific
insights or guidance for me
as the host of this podcast.
So what wisdom would
you offer me in my role
as an interviewer and,
you know, someone who's
trying to facilitate
these conversations?
Thanks.
Benny Ferguson: You have
done it some to this
point, we believe, uh,
but be intuitive about it.
Allow your inner being to
speak to you as you are
speaking to individuals
and asking questions.
The questions that, and you
have done it here, but look
for those deep questions to
ask, that the answers will
resonate and cut deeply into
your viewers, and truly, and
really, even more so than now,
open them up to where they are
still simmering on the inside
the next day, three days.
A week later, they're still
simmering from that which
was offered based on the
questions that you answered.
For you are connected
to your viewers, right?
You are connected
to your listeners.
So the more intuitive
you are in asking your
questions, The more
effective the answers
will be because they will
cut deeply, as deep as
you can pull and allow
the question to come.
Does that make sense?
Mm hmm, mm
Rod Bland: Yeah, it does.
So, I, I have one,
one final one.
It's, it's to do with things
that you're curious about and,
um, Reconciling things that
you're following the, sort of
following the lead of things
that you're curious about and
things that are, you know, I
guess seen to be of service.
And I, I feel like sometimes
just simply following
what you're curious
about is somewhat self
serving in a world where
we need people to be more
of a service to others.
So how do you reconcile
those two things?
What have you, what wisdom
have you got for us there?
Benny Ferguson: Yeah,
that's a powerful question.
That's a powerful
question, and the answer
may be a little uneasy
for many, but you have
to understand that This
is a selfish journey.
This is a selfish journey.
Each of you listening, each
of you as individuals, you
are the center of your verse.
And the truth is there's
nothing that you have to
do, even though you're being
inspired from the inside out.
But there's nothing
that you have to do.
You owe nothing.
You're not responsible
for anything, truly,
even though the mind of
humanity says, When you're
a husband, you should ABC.
When you're a parent,
you should ABC.
But actually, it's not true.
There's no shoulds.
There's no shoulds.
It is selfie.
And what you don't understand
is that if you selfishly
follow that which you are
inspired to, selfishly
follow those things that
you just mentioned, that
you're curious about,
you don't know what
knowledge, wisdom, next
steps, reveal themselves
as you follow those ideas.
That may help you be selfie.
A better husband, if that's
what you're intending.
Help you be a better
parent, if that's
what you're intending.
Gems are there if you follow
your selfish expressions,
your selfish curiosity.
For that's why you're here.
When you make your transition,
nobody else is there.
It's only you.
This is a huge misconception,
because humanity has been
conditioned to believe
that this spiritual
journey is about being
all of these things to
others, when the truth is,
your ability to be of
the highest effect and
influence to others
is as a result of you.
of your personal having grown
personally as an individual,
and you grow personally as
an individually by following
that which bubbles up inside
of you, and that which
bubbles up inside of you
actually is only for you.
You see how that's kind
of, there's like an inverse
thing going on there?
Rod Bland: Hmm.
Benny Ferguson: The more
selfish you are about
following that which you are
excited about, Especially
if you're on this path,
the stronger and the brighter
of a light you are, number
one, a model for all of those
you come in contact with.
But then when you start adding
in that idea of acceptance,
you're capable of being
and getting closer and
closer to being a full, free
expression of source for those
closest to you and for those
that you come in contact with.
seeking your support.
It's a very interesting
thing, but that perspective,
the interpretation,
the understanding
opens up to you again.
It's tied to the frequency.
It's tough.
It's tied to the frequency
that you're offering,
that you're breathing,
that you're interacting
in on a consistent level.
The understanding of
all of these things.
is in the frequency
that you're offering.
So, if we were to suggest
anything, it would be to reach
for the highest frequency
that you can, as often as
you can, and try to hold it.
Again, conditioning the mind
and body to that frequency,
and opening yourself up to
the truths of that frequency.
And if you can do that, if
you play with that and stay
with that, everything that
you desire to understand
will make its way into you.
And when it starts to make its
way into you, you will know.
And you'll also know that
you're doing the right things
as far as your personal
growth and expansion.
You'll know that you're
on the right path and
moving in the right
Rod Bland: Thank you.
Is there anything that, uh,
you'd like to get towards
in this conversation?
Anything you'd like
to leave people with?
Anything additional
that you'd want to say
that isn't necessarily a
question I've already asked?
Benny Ferguson:
Open yourself up.
Ask yourself questions.
Based on where you are,
ask yourself questions.
Ask yourself what's next.
Ask yourself who
you are truly.
What you are capable of.
Ask yourself those,
those deep questions.
And don't be
ashamed to ask them.
Humanity has been conditioned
through its religion that
you have to be human.
Careful about what you ask.
That hierarchy thing, that
authority hierarchy thing
that has been sewn into
humanity's spiritual growth
that completely throws it off.
The truth is that
you're talking to you.
When you ask the question, so
it doesn't matter how angry
you are, it doesn't matter
how frustrated you are, it
doesn't matter how excited
you are, just understand
that you're talking to you.
So whatever the question
that you have, or even if
you don't know what questions
to ask, ask what questions
you need to be asking.
That will help you move
down the path of growth
and expansion for you and
expect the answer, right?
Expect the answer because
you're talking to you and
the minute you start asking
the question, the minute
you will start pulling the
information to you that is
perfect for you in the moment.
That is what we think is
something that needs to be
understood, needs to be known
for, for those listening.
Rod Bland: Abraham, it's
been a great privilege for
me to be able to talk to you.
Um, uh, there's
probably more for Benny.
Uh, people are going to
want to ask questions.
Benny, could you let us
know, you know, briefly what
you've got going on as far
as how people can get in
touch with you, if there's
any particular services
that you offer people?
Benny Ferguson: Yeah, well,
we're growing a global
community, which is exciting.
I've worked with people and
have people in our community
now all over the world.
I have people in
your, in your country.
Um, but yeah, you can find us
at, well, we have, first of
all, to get people started.
We have a few free things,
uh, free trainings.
One is, uh, at
Iamthediscourse.
com.
That's a, um, free training
that kind of discusses
who you are, and what
you're capable of and why
you don't know it yet.
Uh, there's another free
training that at www.
accelerated evolution.
com where we talk about
the three attention shifts
that you have to make in
order to know that you're
working at your foundation
and it gets into the whys of
what we were talking about.
The purpose of meditation,
the purpose of reaching
for a higher frequency.
We go over those things.
Again, there's so many
different directions a person
can go, uh, on this path.
But if you want to know how
to make sure that you're
doing the right things and
working at your foundation
to really expand yourself
as an individual, we go over
those three attention shifts.
Uh, you can find us on
YouTube, uh, at Consciousness
Ascending, hyphen, Benny R.
Ferguson, JR.
Uh, we're always putting
new material up there.
Uh, but if you connect
with us through any of
those venues, then You will
get the information about
what else is going on.
We do private sessions.
We have, uh, monthly
workshops, and we have
a private community
that's growing, uh, where
we offer, like, close
contact interaction.
conversation, uh, weekly Q and
A's for people who are really
about the play and practice
of releasing the resistance
that they have in their life
and expanding and wanting
to accelerate that process.
Rod Bland: All right.
Well, we'll put links
to all of that in the
show notes, Benny.
Uh, thank you so much
for being my bestie.
Let me try that again.
Thank you so much for
being my guest today.
It's been a great
pleasure to talk to you.
Benny Ferguson: Yeah,
this has been awesome.
We really appreciate it being
able to be of support and we
look forward to the next time.