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Recently leaked text messages reveal UK Health Minister Matt Hancock talking about how Bill Gates "owes him one" for getting so many people injected with his chips. Of course the media is writing this off as a big joke. But is it really? According to...
Recently leaked text messages reveal UK Health Minister Matt Hancock talking about how Bill Gates "owes him one" for getting so many people injected with his chips. Of course the media is writing this off as a big joke. But is it really? According to my guest today, attorney Todd Callender, it is not only true, but related to a much larger agenda involving 5G, 15-minute cities, and the W.H.O. Pandemic Treaty.
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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Hohlhaus. So I've got a very special guest returning to join us today, and that's attorney Todd Callender, somebody who's really been fighting against this stuff legally, he's been getting information out there but he's just a wealth of knowledge and so I've got a massive list of questions to go over things, were we talking about the pandemic treaty, we talking about Marburg, the recently released text messages from the, health minister over in England, Hancock, talking about chipping people with Bill Gates' vaccines. I mean, it's gonna be a pretty incredible discussion. But I also, as I try to do with Todd because he just has a special character about him.
Seth Holehouse:We're gonna be talking about where the good is in all this and where the hope for the future is because we need to have that more now more than ever. Before we get started though, folks, make sure you're following me on social media, most places just Maninamerica. On Twitter, it's at man in America US on Twitter there. And also, every show that we put out is done as a podcast as well. So if you prefer to listen instead of watch, just go to your favorite podcast app and search for Man in America.
Seth Holehouse:You'll find me there. And if you really wanna make my day, leave a five star review. It really helps the algorithm so we can reach more people. And if you're watching this on Rumble, because it won't be on YouTube for obvious reasons, can you please do me a giant favor and hit that like button? Because when you hit the like button, it helps the algorithm on Rumble so the video gets shown to more people, we get into the leaderboards.
Seth Holehouse:So you hitting the like button really, really, really helps. And of course, if you want to send this video to a friend or family member, that's great as well. Alright, folks, let's jump right into the interview with attorney Todd Callender. Alright, Todd, it is such an honor and a pleasure to have you back on the show again. I can tell you that the audience loves the interviews that I do with you.
Seth Holehouse:So they really enjoy hearing from you.
Todd Callender:Well, I'm honored. I just really kind of you just saying that.
Seth Holehouse:I know it really is.
Todd Callender:Hear compliments. That's just really, really nice of you. Thank you.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah. Well, it's interesting because the last two interviews that we did were more positive. One was about the, what's happened with the Thai princess and the case in, over in Europe with Pascal. And then before that, we're talking about all the indications that the Great Reset is really, you know, failing and that the elites are really freaking out. And so I think that this conversation may not be quite as positive because we're gonna be looking at really the details of their plans.
Seth Holehouse:And I'll preface that by saying that this it isn't meant to be fear mongering. It's it's so that we know what's coming because if we if you know what the enemy is doing, you can react, you can act, you can plan, you can, you know, say, you know, buy more food for your family, move out of the city, you can, you know, just take actions ahead of time. So that's what think we'll be digging into today.
Todd Callender:Yeah. Well, that's a really noble goal. Because if we don't prepare, if we don't embrace this, we can't survive it.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah, it is. So how about we start with some more, you know, kind of more breaking news, which is really an interesting turn of events. So Matt Hancock, who was the as far as I understand, think he was what the health secretary in The UK recently had a bunch of his WhatsApp messages leaked. And one of those messages, here's an article, this is from the Daily Mail, It says Matt Hancock joked about Bill Gates COVID vaccine conspiracy theory by telling AIDS the Microsoft billionaire quote, owes me one considering how many people I'm getting his chips injected into. And it also talks about how they're going to be talking about the new variant coming out and pushing fear on people.
Seth Holehouse:So it's really becoming more and more obvious that this is highly calculated. But let's just start with the the kind of crazy part of that is that he's saying that I mean, is he joking when he's saying that, you know, he's chipping all these people? Mean, like, you know a lot of what's happening. What's going on with this?
Todd Callender:Why would why would we doubt him? You know, they've been telling us this for a long time. You look at Moderna's early propaganda, before they had the pushback, and they actually bragged about installing an operating system. We've got papers on human augmentation and US Army building cyborgs in 02/2001. The NASA Langley research paper about fifth generation warfare in 2025 says we have the technology today to make super soldiers, and here's what we're gonna do by 2025.
Todd Callender:That's two years away. They've already done it. In terms of chipping people, I mean, I've seen dozens of peer reviewed studies that talk about actually seeing these chips funny enough they're quantum and they fade in and out of reality depending on how much and what frequency of EMF radiation is applied to them. There isn't any doubt about this. That of course these things were chipped.
Todd Callender:Look at the Bill Gates patent, I think it's 20606060, if memory serves, and it talks about turning people into batteries. We took a vial of, I believe it was the Moderna shot from one of our clients who who kept it after he'd actually received the injection. We did mass spectometry on it, and we found that there was 99 pages of toxins, 99 pages worth of toxins in the shot that included Cesium-one 37. We know that Cesium-one 37 binds to living tissue and turns it into a transmitter transducer battery, and in the case of Bill Gates, a cloud computing node that was already used by the DOD in their in their experiments. The study is c four five nine one thousand and one.
Todd Callender:We don't have to question whether that happened and what he said was disingenuous. He meant that because it's true.
Seth Holehouse:It's I mean, it's crazy, you know, that truth is stranger than fiction, it seems these days. I mean, I read a lot of sci fi novels growing up, and this is something that you'd see in, you know, in Frank Herbert Dune or something, but here it is right in front of us and, you know, so I interviewed Doctor. Robert Young, this was late last year, who's done an incredible amount of heavy, heavy duty research, but especially at looking at five gs EMFs. And, you know, in in this interview, he's he said basically that the global five g system makes the atom bomb obsolete. He's like, this is this is the weapon.
Seth Holehouse:And so, you know, from what you're seeing, you know, with these chips and we're seeing the videos of people that have Mac ID addresses, right? So people that have gotten the the jab are now showing up in the same way that you would, you know, kind of scan for a computer. They're showing up on that. But we're also seeing, especially here in America, Five gs towers go up like crazy and it really started right during COVID. That was one thing we distinctly noticed and I've got family in Australia, it was crazy as they said during the lockdowns, they had they saw Chinese troops coming in and setting up five g everywhere across Australia.
Seth Holehouse:So during the lockdowns, the Chinese put up a massive five g system infrastructure across Australia. So how does this all connect?
Todd Callender:Wow. I didn't know about the Chinese troops, but I can't say that I'm the least bit surprised, you know, where I live in The Caribbean and certainly across The United States, where everybody was locked in their houses, the telecoms installing five gs on every public school, and I think every public building too, by the way, you know, they were quote unquote essential workers. So, you know, COVID, this disease, agenda was so dangerous that everybody had to be locked up except for the guys installing five gs. It's just, it's absurd. But of course it is.
Todd Callender:And that's our, our understanding, you know, I'm really fortunate in our lawsuit against the US government, the DOD, HHS and FDA, we've got a deep bench of experts that are advising us because the nature of the lawsuit has evolved into this study on synbio, genetically modified people effectively, military members in this particular case, but we've crossed this gamut to understand EMF is an integral part of what it is that they've been planning, that it's, it's possible to replicate effectively any disease known to man with the right frequency and strength of the EMF radiation, into the light range, by the way, and of course now we see Philips blue lights. It has to do with effectively the quantum nature of us as beings. We're electrical beings, everything around us is a form of electricity as well. And so the the powers that be the owners of this world have figured out how to digitize DNA. And that interplays a great a great length to the the people that receive the shots as we understand it.
Todd Callender:I understand it can affect people that didn't get the shots, you know, were bathed in radiation all day, but effectively becomes a targeting system. And you might remember when, Wuhan happened in 02/2019, roughly October, November, within a month's period of time, 21,000,000 Chinese ditched their five g devices. So what does that tell you? That it's it's all related is what I'm trying to say to you. So this really isn't speculation.
Todd Callender:We have it all. We have their admissions. We have their papers, and now we have evidence that we can scientifically prove and monitor, demonstrate to a court if we can ever get our day in court. We're trying on that one.
Seth Holehouse:And what I enjoy with our conversations is that I feel like that you're someone that you see across the broad spectrum and you can piece together, you know, the legal, you've, you're very intimately involved in the medical side of things, understand the medical side of things, but you're also, you know, plan, you know, Agenda 2,030, you know, the WEF, you know, UN, you also know so much about the CCP and some of their plans. And so, you know, when you're, when you're piecing this all together, because if you take all these different pockets of information, right, you look at the, vaccine, the nanotech and the vaccines, the quantum tech as you're talking about right now, you'd look at that, you look at the agenda, you know, the five gs push, you know, how that just so happened to happen right when COVID started, lockdowns were happening. You look at that, you look at everything happening with say, Bill Gates, even you know, Hancock coming out saying that he's chipping people.
Todd Callender:I
Seth Holehouse:mean, what, I mean, so I want to, I guess I'll draw my own conclusion. Want to see what your conclusion is. So my, what I'm concluding from this is that what it does is that the powers that be, they have discovered a way and they've set up these systems so that they can create these pandemics and use these pandemics to basically take away all of our rights. And we're talking about the pandemic treaty in this, right, in this discussion, which is very important. So, am I so now that like they've set the stage for this, is it am I right in thinking that they can use this technology potentially and say they can activate it in a particular area?
Seth Holehouse:Right? Like if you remember seeing the cruise ship, right? One of the cruise ships where everyone had They just installed a new five gs system on there that got activated. That was the first time it was used. A lot of the sources that I've discovered talk about how in Wuhan, they had just launched a new massive five gs system in Wuhan.
Todd Callender:That's
Seth Holehouse:right. Right when the pandemic hit over there. Okay. Coincidence, you know, people can do their own research on that.
Todd Callender:So It's measurable.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah, I guess that's, you're right. And so, do you, so is that a big part of this? Is it that this gives them the ability to use technology and maybe even AI in a flick of a switch to create pandemics. It's kind of what Bill Gates keeps coming out and saying, Oh yeah, we expect more coming, that we expect more coming. Is that what this is?
Todd Callender:They'll pay attention next time. Yeah. Yes, that's exactly what I was saying. There's a roadmap to all of this. It's called the agenda for the twenty first century.
Todd Callender:More recently, they call it agenda 02/1930, and it's based on the 1992 environmental accords in Rio, and it's based on the 1994 population accords in in Cairo. The three goals, the three primary goals come of this UN convention. Do I mean that a 96 countries and territories on this planet agreed to it, which is the elimination of private property rights. Some people would call that communism. I'm one of those people.
Todd Callender:Number two, the elimination of borders, the elimination of sovereignty and furtherance of a one world government, a one world regulator, a single market economy. And then lastly, a 95% reduction in the world's population. We can watch all three of those things happening at the same time. And yes, you're absolutely right. Halloween night in Wuhan Two Thousand And Nineteen is when the 10,005 g transmitters were turned on, and Wuhan became the first five g city in the world.
Todd Callender:Right after that became Milan, and after that New York, in each and every case, there were giant outbreaks of what people called COVID. Whether or it was actually that pathogen or the EMF itself, we don't know. But it it all fits together. One thing I would like people to understand is this. The one world government we fear so much already exists everywhere outside The United States.
Todd Callender:It's done largely by the international regulator called the Organization for Economic and Cooperative Development. They've harmonized everybody's tax code, their commercial codes, the ICD 10 codes in hospitals. That is the work, the handiwork of the OECD, and they've tracked every asset on this planet back to every living natural breathing person. So it makes it that much easier to confiscate through taxation or maybe overt means like CIRCLA. Right now we've got the Ohio train wreck, The EPA moves in.
Todd Callender:They've given themselves the power to go and and forfeit, steal people's property, so they can force people into these fifteen minute cities. Yes. It is all a great giant plan. The benefit to us is that they're rushing at the same time now it's becoming obvious.
Seth Holehouse:Alright, folks. I have a quick message for you. As you can probably see by now, these elites don't like us. They don't want us here with them on this earth. But we have to be resilient because a, we've got God on our side, but b) we've got truth and justice on our side.
Seth Holehouse:So we have to be able to withstand these attacks, whether it's the attacks to our financial system, the attacks to our education system, the attacks to our food systems, so many of these things. So we should be homeschooling, pulling our money out of their systems, getting our own food, learning how to garden, etc. These are the ways that we're gonna survive this. And so one of the big things with that is the food supply. And you can see, look around the news, look how many plants have been burning down, chickens being killed by the hundreds of thousands.
Seth Holehouse:It's obvious that they really want to collapse our food supply. So one of the best things that we can do to protect ourselves and our families is to have a good amount of storable food set aside just in case, in case something bad happens and you can't get more groceries for one, two or three months. I mean, ask yourself if that happened, if you could no longer go buy groceries for whatever reason because of things or if it became very expensive or expensive or limited, how long would you be able to feed your family? Would it be a week or two weeks or three months or six months? My recommendation is having at least three to six months, if not a year worth of storable food just in case.
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Seth Holehouse:My chickens are still alive. Goodness. And our water is still drinkable.
Todd Callender:You bet.
Seth Holehouse:But, you know, it was only in the past couple of weeks that they announced that the first fifteen minute city in The United States was gonna be which is Cleveland, Ohio. A stone's throw away from East Palestine. And so it's just you can see that you know, you can just see it. So let's talk gosh, there's so much we can talk about. So fifteen minute series is one, but I want to before we get to that, I want to talk about the pandemic treaty.
Seth Holehouse:Because, you know, I interviewed Doctor. Francis Boyle and who was, you know, really understands this.
Todd Callender:Remarkable guy.
Seth Holehouse:Oh, absolutely. And he really helped me understand what this what this was and how it basically circumvents the constitution and what it really means.
Todd Callender:You bet it does.
Seth Holehouse:And so basically, it's almost like, it's like if everyone looks at, they look at COVID and the, you know, the pandemic or the plandemic, there's all these different ideas. Okay, what's the end goal? Is it to get everyone vaccinated? And, you know, this is a Depop agenda. Is it this?
Seth Holehouse:I think that from what I've seen from it, it was to become the catalyst for things like the pandemic treaty. Because it's it's it's like this it's a significant transfer, not only of wealth from the people to the elites or to the the very few at the top, but it's also the transfer of power. It's like the Patriot Act after 09/11. Yes. You know, we lost a lot of freedoms for that perceived safety.
Seth Holehouse:And so can you explain to, you know, the the listeners and viewers here what the pandemic treaty does and how that affects our constitution, how it ties in with the WHO and the UN, etcetera.
Todd Callender:Sure.
Seth Holehouse:And just kind of what that means for us.
Todd Callender:Sure. So back in 02/2005, again, through multilateral treaties that the the UN put forth in this particular case, public health emergencies was the issue. They created the international, health regulations, and every treaty country agreed that should there be a public health emergency of international concern, that's the special magic words, that all country signatory would respond in the same way based on the WHO and their edicts. That's precisely what happened. It is inconvenient where countries have things called a constitution.
Todd Callender:So for instance, when The US joined the WHO in 1947, President Truman agreed to join on the proviso that we would go along with what the WHO said so long as it didn't violate our constitution. So in March of twenty twenty, president Trump, actually declared a national emergency. And under the National Emergencies Act, people can look it up for themselves, it's 50 USC 16 o one. Your constitutional rights get suspended, not all of them, but most of them. Immediately thereafter, there was a pandemic, a public health emergency declared, by the secretary of health and human services at the time.
Todd Callender:And what that did was invoke, substitute constitutional rights. They're not rights at all, but they're regulations, and effectively zest the CDC with all power. If people want to look at it, and I highly encourage you to read it for yourself, it's 42 CFR Part seventy and seventy one. And those health regulations gave rise to something called the Bureau of Justice. The Department of Justice amalgamated when there is a public health emergency, law enforcement, corrections, public health, and the judiciary.
Todd Callender:We couldn't understand it when people were getting thrown in hospitals, we couldn't get them out. We'd call the cops and say, do a health, safety, and welfare check, and they would arrest our our client's family who were seeking help. Because public health became a law enforcement function, and this is exactly what we've come to find in relation to the new international health regulations, the amended version of that through the National Defense Authorization Act over the last four years, including this last version. Public health has been moved under the Department of Defense. It is now a DOD function.
Todd Callender:That equates to when the director of the WHO on his own volition for mere suspicion alone of a communicable disease anywhere on the planet gets to give orders to our DOD as to how to enforce it. And they granted onto themselves the legal powers to do that because our constitutional rights have been suspended and the substitute rules, 42 CFR part seventy seven one, are already in place. It's not just The United States Of America that did this, Seth. Every country in the world has done the exact same thing. Professor Boyle is exactly right.
Todd Callender:When there's magic legal words, public health emergency of international concern, when they are uttered by the of the WHO, the whole world becomes his, he becomes the dictator, and along comes something called Marburg.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah. And this is gosh, there's just there's a lot to unpack here. But so we okay, so we've basically got everything set up, you know, they have people like the Bill Gates talking to next one, you know, that they've they've really piloted this.
Todd Callender:And
Seth Holehouse:if I take a step back, and I think about it, and I'm looking and thinking to myself, okay, if I was some evil, you know, kind of, you know, Satan worshiping bad person that had, you know, a hundred trillion dollars, right? I wanted to figure out a way to gain dominion over earth, right? Which is really I think that's what it comes down to. I think it's Satan acting through these minions that, you know, for a long time have had maintained a lot of power. It's like the perfect way to do that would actually be through a really a health based technocracy.
Seth Holehouse:Right? Through convincing people, they long time ago they knew this, they learned this that if you can cause people to fear, people in a lot of times will just give up their freedoms and give up their rights. And so
Todd Callender:You bet.
Seth Holehouse:It's like, if they can then create the technology to create pandemics, And then they set up all of the rules and everything behind that and saying, it's kind of like so you have Tedros who, you know, whether he's reporting to Xi Jinping or Klaus Schwab or, you know, whoever knows how that works at that level. It's kind of like if he can say, okay, let's let's release Marburg and we're gonna release it in Australia because we're gonna enter into state phase three for Australia. They release that they use the technology, all of a sudden everyone's getting sick, the news which is completely controlled, it's Marburg outbreak, everyone's freaking out, they're all fearful of it. Australia, is like, I think what ninety seven percent vaccinated, something insane like that, ninety five something something crazy. They're kind of freaking out, but then it's like, okay, well, this is because our pandemic treaty and this is a public health concern.
Seth Holehouse:Is the what is the phrasing they use?
Todd Callender:Public health emergency of international concern, otherwise known as fake.
Seth Holehouse:Bingo. Okay, so they say this is a this is a fake, which then basically gives them full control over that entire country. I mean, they've done it. They've they've set up a system where the few people have, I mean, that's, I mean, do I understand that correctly? Is You've
Todd Callender:got it exactly right. Tedros himself. You might remember a few months ago, monkeypox, right? Oh no, we've got a monkeypox epidemic and there's a board, that sits there to decide it's a committee as to whether something arises to the level of a public health emergency of international concern. And the committee said no, it was nine to five.
Todd Callender:No, this doesn't rise. And you know what? Ted Dros Adnan said, Yeah, there's one. And he declared it anyway. So he's omnipotent, Seth.
Todd Callender:When this happens, he is the guy. And by the way, he's a former warlord from his home country, Ethiopia. He said to some benevolent dictator,
Seth Holehouse:the communist warlord. We
Todd Callender:are in serious trouble. So you've got every bit of that right. And this is why I've been trying to focus on what are we going to do about it, right? Our judiciary, our cases, I think is the last one still alive, everybody else has been kicked out. So judiciary is not an effective way seek redress.
Todd Callender:You can see that for yourself. Legislatures, you know, they don't even want to hear it. Senator Johnson had his roundtable session, and you know, and everybody was coming in to testify. There were preconditions. You can't talk about the ten thousand percent exploding cancer rates.
Todd Callender:You can't use or utter the words Nuremberg. There'll be no accountability talked about. So that's, that's not going to help us. And he was our biggest champion. You go to the administrative branch.
Todd Callender:They still have anybody flying in commercially has got to get the shots if they're not American to walk across the border. We'll take, we'll take you and we'll give you welfare and everything else. You don't have to be vaxxed. The absurdity, you know, continues and it abounds. So you're right.
Todd Callender:They set this whole thing up in such a way. That's literally the pulling of a trigger. And he said a little while ago, they've installed the operating system in Australia, I think you're right, the huge percentage of the people got the shots, a flick of the switch, and now you're going to have people bleeding in the streets because hemorrhagic fevers like Marburg result in people bleeding from their orifices. Marburg is a close cousin to Ebola. In fact, what we found in our research is that both of those are man made.
Todd Callender:We have the patents, we have the research, we know that they've been digitized, we have that evidence. This is not speculation. Department of Energy, US Department of Energy maintains the database on digitized pathogens that we created, and they are for sale. So the answer is yes, It's the flick of a switch through the five gs system. Next thing you know, you've got people falling over dead in the streets.
Todd Callender:Somebody I'm sure will mention the word zombie, and then everybody goes running to the quarantine camps that were built with the Marburg money from the prep act. There's already been a Marburg declaration. I don't if anybody knows that, but they spent the money building quarantine camps and new experimental shots with the Marburg money from the PREP Act. It's all there. They've already done it.
Todd Callender:It's now just a function of somebody flicking the person the proverbial switch.
Seth Holehouse:Gosh. And so with what you're seeing in the conversations that these these people are having publicly, and whether it's Tedros or Bill Gates or Hancock. Yeah. So does it look like that they're kind of on the on the board on the kind of edge or at the very beginning of launching the Nexwana? And do you think that there that we're in the coming months going to see all the news all of a sudden saying, Oh, Marburg is now sweeping through and they're gonna have, you know, kind of like Wuhan, these videos of people falling over on the street dying.
Seth Holehouse:I mean, that something is that what you think is going to happen?
Todd Callender:Absolutely. I think that's what's going to happen. Like I said, they already spent the money. There's already been a Marburg declaration. And when there is one, we go back to 42 CFR part seventy and seventy one.
Todd Callender:They've already tested the system. And, you know, right now there's a Marburg pandemic in Africa. And they're taking people from that country that is under lockdown and flying them straight into The United States. There's got people in Atlanta, there's people in New York and Colorado, as I understand it being flown from that country. So the pretext, right?
Todd Callender:They can pretend, Oh no, we didn't, we didn't know better. We took in people from Africa that were exposed to this. It's got a thirty something day incubation period. And then lo and behold, people start falling over in the street. The good news is this stuff.
Todd Callender:Doctor. Chambers, who I do a lot of work with, good guy, Green Beret Green Beret medical doctor found in the 2018 handbook for Green Beret doctors, that there are effective treatments for these hemorrhagic fevers including Senden and Albendazole, including others ozone. All of those were removed from 2019. They removed them from the handbook and said that there's an experimental mRNA shot in the works, just like they did with COVID right? They told everybody's antivirals didn't work.
Todd Callender:You shouldn't use equine, medicines. It turns out ivermectin hydroxychloroquine worked fine. Same goes here. It's interesting from Doctor. Vleet, she says that it doesn't matter what the cause is of that rampant inflammation that seems to be the result of these pathogens, even if it's EMF causing it, these antivirals have astounding properties to cure those issues.
Todd Callender:So I don't think it matters whether it's EMF or whether it's a real pathogen that was already put into people in the shots. We have proof to suggest that's the case. Either way, are effective there are effective remedies right now. We don't have to go looking for them. Abendazole and Fenbendazole, I give my dogs Fenben four forty four, which I bought off the Internet, seems to work just fine.
Todd Callender:So, you know, we don't have to be scared. We don't have to go running to the to the quarantine camps. And what we do have to do is get in touch with people in in uniform. That's military, it's national guard, it's law enforcement to tell them, hey, we already know this is coming. When the, when the court comes down for Adon Tedros, I'm sorry, the other way around, Tedros Adon.
Todd Callender:What are you going to do? Do you work for him? Or did you swear your ass to the constitution? Because right now you take money to enforce this stuff, you're a mercenary. And we, that's what we've got to get across.
Todd Callender:If we can get around the enforcement issue, we can opt out of this thing, Seth. That's the key to this whole thing. Opt out. We don't have to go along with the program.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah. And I want to kind of, I want to come back to that. I've a few questions beforehand, but I do want to talk about the solutions and what we can do and how to opt out. But so I guess I've got two questions. But the first question is, so you said it was in 2020 that under the the PREP Act, right?
Seth Holehouse:That our constitutional rights were suspended under President Trump. Do you
Todd Callender:That's right.
Seth Holehouse:Did he know what he was doing? I mean, did he I know that he's been behind Operation Warp Speed and he hasn't come out and kind of spoken about the vaccines like some people have hoped that he would. But if our constitutional rights were suspended under him, how do you make sense of that?
Todd Callender:Well, first and foremost, don't doubt that happened because the declaration happened and it was he that did it. The National Emergencies Act 50 USC sixteen oh one. And you need to look no further than the January 6 protesters who've been sitting in jail for years, no bond hearing, no habeas corpus, you know, shut down schools, shut down enterprises. You couldn't do that if the constitution was enforced, right? We had rights, all of which were suspended, we can't even get into the Article III courts, The courts will say it's not justiciable.
Todd Callender:So that actually happened. I can't channel the man, I don't know what's in his mind, I don't know what's in his heart, I cannot reconcile that. I would like to think that he was under pressure and getting bad advice, and he he did what the protocols this was set up over forty or fifty years, Seth. The the US government has books. When this happens, you go to chapter whatever on the book, and here's what you do.
Todd Callender:Right? Because they've got people that think about these things, and they design them out. I would like to think that he was flying following that playbook and not understanding the ramifications of it. Whether that's accurate or not, I I really don't know. I I hope so.
Todd Callender:And I hope that humanity has learned something from this through the the the first exercise, otherwise known as COVID, that we we don't have to be afraid. We don't have to go along with this, and we we are not governable unless we give our consent to be governed.
Seth Holehouse:Absolutely. And if you look at America actually, I'll get to my question two, then I'll go and move on. This question two was the pandemic treaty itself. Was this so Joe Biden was this just signed? I mean, this is it now in effect?
Seth Holehouse:Because I remember beforehand, I had, you know, James Roguski on as an example, and we were signing the alarm saying, well, can't let this happen. But so is it now inked into contract?
Todd Callender:Well, it's a great question. So the short answer is my understanding from people who are in those circles, that it was agreed, it was negotiated, and that the US Senate had already preapproved what, president Biden, I say that with a small p, that what he had sent his negotiating team to accomplish was preapproved, which, of course, is not in the spirit of our constitution because the senate has to give consent advice and consent, as a matter of fact, to any international treaties. This is what they call a self executing treaty. So the answer to the question is, yes, it is in existence, being boiled down into whatever formalities the WHO normally does. I've heard it could take as long as a year before those formalities are recognized, but it really doesn't matter anyway.
Todd Callender:Because in 2019, we saw the first indications of this public health emergency of international concern that were invoked shortly thereafter. It was also March of twenty twenty. And, the result of that, you know, locking us down, quarantining was done in place. You don't have to go to a quarantine camp. They can designate your house as a quarantine center.
Todd Callender:So the reality is all of that's been done. The concern that I have is this: my understanding is they eliminated any requirement to observe human rights. That's the issue, and I can't help but think that the people that got the shots are under the current law. They are a new species according to a case that's called molecular pathology versus married genetics, and that's a synthetic person, syn bio. If they're a new species, what rights do they enjoy?
Todd Callender:Why did the the international health regulations need to get amended to remove any any sense, any notion, any hat tip, any consideration of human rights, but that apparently was the major obstacle heretofore. So the answer is they'll implement it because they can right now, irrespective of what ink they need to put to the paper.
Seth Holehouse:And so if you look at America, because I, you know, I've been saying for quite some time that America is the last bastion of freedom. You look at Australia for example, you know, look at New Zealand, look at, you know, England. I mean, it's you can see how far along those countries are in this agenda. I think when I look at America, obviously we have the constitution, but we also have the second amendment. And that's not an easy You know, that's not, that's not an easy thing for them to bypass.
Seth Holehouse:And so, if, so what I took in terms of solutions and how to navigate this, you know, one of things you mentioned earlier, which I couldn't agree with more, and I'm kind of, you know, kind of throwing myself under the bus from saying I haven't done this yet. It's like, talk to your local sheriff. I really, I need to prioritize that personally. Go talk to the local sheriff, see where the sheriff stands on the constitution. Talk about this, show them this interview, say, hey, watch this interview with man in America.
Seth Holehouse:What do you think about this? Right? Because if the, I can't imagine that the UN would have an army big enough unless they're using China's Soldiers that they can come in and enforce these things. Right? They would rely on the they would try to rely on the structure that we have in here using our own police against us, etc.
Seth Holehouse:So if we talk to those police. Yeah. And so, but the other thing is that they, I think, were hoping to have a much higher vaccination rate here in America.
Todd Callender:That's right.
Seth Holehouse:And, you know, and I think that even the numbers they've put out there, they're lying. You know, they're making people there's lot more vaccines than would have actually been taken. So maybe it's half of the adult population, right? Just kind of throwing that number out there. I don't think
Todd Callender:it's that high.
Seth Holehouse:Exactly, right? And so there's still, there's still a lot of people in America that didn't take it that won't be as easily controlled by whatever technology they're using, EMFs, but we've also seen a massive spike in gun purchases, more gun purchases than you've ever seen, right? So we've got a standing army here. And so it's kind of like in terms of, you know, we look at what happened with East Palestine and this is in these are very realistic scenarios I'm thinking through here because I'm, you know, like I said, I was about two hours away from that. I'm, you know, two or three hours away from Cleveland, the first fifteen minute city.
Seth Holehouse:And I'm thinking, okay, how do I handle this? Because if they're gonna if they're gonna ramp up these disasters, you know, these chemical spills or whatever, have EPA come in, say you can't live here, you're forced to move here. It's kind of like my plan and all this is just to become the resistance to become the person that will just survive and will take care of myself and my family and keep resisting and encouraging everyone I know to resist. And when you have enough of that happening, if you've got half of the country that says we're not going to go along with it, you know, what are they doing? So I guess how do you see this playing out in America?
Seth Holehouse:Because it's kind of a doom and gloom scenario, but at the same time, I really think we've got a fighting chance.
Todd Callender:We do have a fighting chance. But I want to go back to one of the things you said that, you know, when this unfolds, you have this vision of hunkering down with you and your family. And that's, you know, everybody's first impression, I'm going to protect what I have dominion over. The reality is that we need to link arms. And that includes the law enforcement and the military guys, because they're the ones tasked with enforcing it.
Todd Callender:So when you talk about going to see your sheriff, if you see a deputy, you know, 11 buying a coffee, go buy that coffee for him, and just have a couple words with him because it's about the personal relationship. So before Hitler killed off all the Jews, he had to round them up. Well, how did he do that? He brought in the brown shirts that caused all kinds of crime, just like Antifa. They restricted the police from being able to enforce those crimes.
Todd Callender:And they created a barrier between the people and the local law enforcement. They didn't like each other. They created division, that's one of their tools, division and fear. And then what happened is Hitler brought in foreign troops because people were complaining that nobody's enforcing the law. Oh, well, let me solve that problem.
Todd Callender:He brought in foreign troops to act as police who were quite happy to gather up all of the Jews because they didn't know them, and they didn't have that relationship. So the key to this is building those relationships, and when this thing unfolds, you go grab deputy Jones and say, no, no, no, come over here. You know, we've got resources, let's pool our resources together, and let's stand united. We can't afford to have law enforcement, military as the enemy. We need them to be a part of this.
Todd Callender:And what I want them to understand is one question, which is that if your country has abdicated its sovereignty to the WHO, and it has by virtue of this treaty, then who do you work for? Who's paying your check? Right? Do you think somehow you're exempt from this, your family's exempt this? Because they're not.
Todd Callender:Your oath was to the constitution and this republic, not the WHO. So who are you going to stand with? And who are you going to fight against? And it should be on the side of the American people. And I can assure you, as we've already seen it happen in Australia, we saw it happen in Canada, that foreign mercenaries were flown in, they donned local police uniforms, and they did the exact Hitler thing we just talked about.
Todd Callender:So it's up to our law enforcement, our military to say, no, no, no, you don't get this uniform. No, no, you're not part of this. There is something called prosecutorial discretion. So that means that law enforcement has the right to enforce the law or not. They can choose not to.
Todd Callender:That's what we want. We want them to say that's an illegal law, it's unconstitutional, we're not going with the program, and we all join forces and then can't do a damn thing about it.
Seth Holehouse:And I'm glad that you brought up that particular point. It's interesting because I, you know, my wife and I, we've, you know, we're, we're in this, like it's kind of like our job, somewhere to you, our job is to read the documents, it's to watch the videos, it's to listen to the Klaus Schwab speeches. I mean, we, know, we've got all of his books floating around the house. We've got Lennon's books and Mao's books, you know, we're, it's our job to understand this information. And it's quite frightening.
Seth Holehouse:And I can say that, you know, 2020, and 2021 into 2022, that was a very frightening time. So during that time, we moved to the country, we got, you know, we're on about five acres, we got chickens, we bought a bunch of food and brass and all the things that we you know, that you really need to, to kind of protect yourself. And it was a very, it was a very self focused stage, you know, of this kind of immediate survival. It's like a tornado's coming, I got to build a shelter for my family. But what's interesting is that I'd probably say over the past six to eight months, something changed in us.
Seth Holehouse:And we've thought, well, is this is this what God wanted? Like, is this why God has given us this opportunity and given us this, you know, the success that we've had so far in our lives, just to kind of like put it all towards ourselves and hopefully we can hoard it all in our basement and then just, know, kind of fight off the zombies. And it was just like this realization like, no, it's not. And it just clicked for us. It's like, No, we we need to really look at how we can multiply, how we can take and build a community.
Seth Holehouse:And so it's what we're in the process of doing right now is actually, so we've got this five acre property, so we're gonna build like a permaculture demonstration site. We're gonna be digging ponds, planting fruit trees and nut trees and, you know, getting even more livestock. And our idea is like, let's become the center of our immediate community. Let's, you know, even to the point where we're gonna raise bees, imagine if we have a little food side thing because we have we have some road frontage, you know, with one of access to our property. Maybe we put up a little stand and we've got eggs and honey and fresh fruit, whatever's in season.
Seth Holehouse:It's a little honor box says take what you want, pay what you want. There
Todd Callender:you go.
Seth Holehouse:You know what I mean? Like, and so we're thinking, this is how we're going to go back to building, baking bread, you know, dropping off, use a dozen eggs for the neighbors because that's what we realized. It's interesting if you look, because I've looked into a lot of survival theory, a lot of EMP scenario, etc. The experts will all tell you, you will never survive alone. You will never survive with a family of three, four, five.
Seth Holehouse:You need to have a small That's how you have to do it. Yeah.
Todd Callender:Yeah, I'm glad you said that because a couple of months ago, had an Australian client who said, I've got these, these people keep coming on my property, and they're stealing things in their youths, and they seem angry and violent, and I'm out here by myself far from the police. My advice to him was pretty similar to what you just said, and I said, listen, go grab those boys, bring them to your house, give them a beer, and have a chat. And you know what? If they're stealing, you know, your resources is because they need them, wouldn't it be better if you could trade give them some of your resources in return for them being your security? Right?
Todd Callender:Trade goods and services with each other and turn them into an ally, turn them into force multipliers, and you know what? It worked. Same as you're talking about, we can all link arms.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah. And it's just, it's interesting to take a step back and look at all this because I really it we're really living I think in the in the best of times and the worst of times. And I really believe that is scary as this stuff is, because it is, it's frightening when look at, if you can, you know, wrap your head around the five gs, the what's in the what's in the jab, the control they have, the pandemic treaty, the, you know, what, like the Bill Gates buying the farmland, you know, all the, you know, don't eat meat, you'll be happy and know nothing. I mean, if you can really wrap your head around all of it, which I've really tried to, it's a very frightening and dark world but Daunting. At the same time, if we can wrap our heads around the parallel economy that's building the people that are like now awake, like so many people I've talked to that COVID was the thing that woke them up.
Seth Holehouse:It's like COVID was And now these are people like I'm, I walked, know, just just down the street and I've got, you know, probably half my neighbors are like, oh, we love watching Man in America and, and you know, here's here's what we're doing here. We've got a garden back there and the one of my neighbors, they're like, hey, we'll come dig your ponds for you and everyone, the other neighbors like, hey, we can process your chickens for you. And everyone's coming together. And so there's this beautiful thing that's emerging out of this. It's like the elites and these dark minded people wanted to push us into this Blade Runner Hunger Games dystopia.
Seth Holehouse:Yes.
Todd Callender:Fifteen minute cities.
Seth Holehouse:Fifteen minute cities, which actually we'll talk about those next. I want to get your thoughts on those. But what's happening instead is that yes, some people are going down that route. Some people are turning into same Nazis that are snitching on their neighbors and pulling the switch in the gas That's their nature. But the same time, I'm seeing so many people that are just becoming these beautiful souls, and it's bringing out like this very divine nature in them.
Seth Holehouse:And so there's just this beautiful juxtaposition that's happening here.
Todd Callender:I would suggest to you the same ones just when you described the ones that, you know, narcs that they they trade information for some advantage. Those are the ones that lined up first for the shots. That's that's human nature, you can see exactly how they roll. So, they may not be too much of a problem going forward because I I agree to your point. I don't think anywhere near half took it.
Todd Callender:The other thing I would mention to you, as you're building this community, as you're building your resources and your your relationships, have the talk with your your sheriff and ask them about deputizing citizens. Because at the end of the day, we all want to act in accordance and under the color of the law. How do we do that? How do we repel the invaders? If you've got mercenaries from the WHO coming, wouldn't you rather be shooting at them wearing a deputy badge?
Todd Callender:Right? That's the idea here is we all get together. We all share that commonality, that theme, we're defending America. They're, they're the invaders. We're saving our Republican sheriffs.
Todd Callender:I need you to deputize your citizens so we can do this together.
Seth Holehouse:And so that's can that so is that a relatively easy process to go through? I mean, can I just go talk to my local sheriff?
Todd Callender:Depends on the state. But yeah. So it depends on the state. Some have made it very easy and it's up to the sheriff's discretion, particularly when there's a time of emergency. Other states have made it very difficult because they recognize that at the end of the day, the sheriff is responsible for local law, the ultimate authority in local law, including prosecutorial discretion.
Todd Callender:And and so they've tried to federalize that function of law enforcement. But when, you know, the federal government oversteps its authority, then who's going to make that decision? It's the sheriff. So, yeah, you know, they've got the ability to do it most most instances, and where they don't have it, exigent circumstances allow them to use their discretion. The most important of which is maybe I just don't wanna enforce your quarantine law.
Todd Callender:Maybe I don't feel like giving people these shots. Maybe I'm not going to confiscate Seth's chickens. That's the key to this whole thing.
Seth Holehouse:That's helpful. I'm going look into that. One thing I wanted to talk to you a little more about though was was the fifteen minute cities because as I mentioned, it was kind of frightening to see gosh, Cleveland, Ohio, there I saw this program talking about how great it's going to be and I'm seeing that up in Edmonton and other areas of Canada, they're rolling it out without the permission of the citizens. You're seeing it happen
Todd Callender:in London
Seth Holehouse:or England, different parts of England, Australia. Again, I've got a lot of family in Australia, that's where they're they're really piloting this. They're having the smart cities, right? The fifteen minute smart cities. So can you explain a little more about what these fifteen minute cities are and what the implications of them are?
Todd Callender:Yes. They're prisons. That's what they are. If you type into your search engine, 21 and map, agenda 21 in quotations and map, what you will find is that this has already been prepared, that there is an initiative, and it's called wildernessing or rewilding, and that's the whole point, is to force humanity into these 15 prisons they call cities, and to rewild everywhere else that we will not be allowed to go to. That's one of the reasons why they're trying to take farmland, people's livestock, feed us bugs, because we are more controllable.
Todd Callender:I would tell you this though, the fifteen minute cities will not work unless they have central bank digital currency. So China does this now. Right? They they build these cities with factories are all in the same place you live and work in the factory, right? Because it's slave labor, and they control you with the money supply.
Todd Callender:So you're not allowed to travel five kilometers from your home. Guess what happens? You can't spend your money because it's programmable. If you ate too much meat that week or that month, guess what? You can't spend it on meat, on protein, so they control the human behavior by virtue of what it is you can buy and sell right out of the Bible, the mark of the beast.
Todd Callender:Right? The beauty of cash is portable, it's a recognized medium of exchange, and above all, it's anonymous. So we reject central bank digital currencies, and the fifteen minute cities won't work. As long as there is competition, as long as there's alternatives, we're golden. It's as soon as they force everybody in, which is what I think this Ohio toxic spill is.
Todd Callender:The reason they blew it up is they wanted the predicate, the excuse to call everything in the areas condemned. Now the government now owns it. Here's you where you can you can have an apartment over here in Cleveland, but this farmland, that's ours now. So they've given themselves the legal base to do it. But how is that going to happen?
Todd Callender:It's going to happen through enforcement. Who's going to enforce those laws? Who's going to enforce that confiscation? Right? It's the guys in uniform.
Todd Callender:They are also being forced into fifteen minute cities. Their families are also at jeopardy. If they can come to understand this and we reject it together, it won't happen.
Seth Holehouse:You probably have a good point. And that's, that's one of the reasons why for me, I'm a big fan of silver, you know, silver and gold, but silver is because it's, know, it's it's concentrated, it's highly portable, it's completely anonymous. For a lot people saying, Oh, well, you know, they're going to confiscate it or it's like, well, do some midnight gardening, you know, go go, go put it somewhere it's not going to be found. Because I think that, you know, you're gonna have these parallel economies develop where it's like, okay, well, want CBDC. And it's actually, I even thought about this, like, say we have a little farm stand, you know, it's like I'll tell people like hypothetically, I will give you twice the amount of product if you pay in silver.
Seth Holehouse:To encourage that like wow, can go take $20 worth of silver and get twice the amount in produce. So I do want to bring up the map actually. It's interesting that you mentioned this map because I brought it up in a show I did recently and talking about it because I want to show folks this because this is Susan.
Robert Kiyosaki:There it is. Do you want
Seth Holehouse:to go and explain this to people?
Todd Callender:Yeah. Well, it shows the consolidation of people into certain city areas, and then the other parts are wilderness. Right? There's red and yellow, I think, maybe there's some orange in there, I don't know. But if you if you zoom in, you'll see that there are huge swaths of land where people will not be allowed to go.
Todd Callender:And it looks to me like, yeah, sure enough, Ohio, that's a densely populated area. But the point of which is that those are reservations. Those yellow areas are where humans will not be allowed to go. And of course, over time, we're going to consolidate them further into city centers. That's just the first stage of it.
Seth Holehouse:In the in the map key, what it is is it says that the green area, the green zones, right, that's where people will be allowed to live. But then red and yellow are the highly regulated zones. So can't zoom in any further because it's not very big image. But if you look in Ohio, for instance, upper right hand corner says Cleveland area, you see this little green zone there. But if you look at like a lot of the rest of Ohio, it's it's it's red in
Todd Callender:the It's no go.
Seth Holehouse:So, this this is You
Todd Callender:know, it's interesting.
Seth Holehouse:Go ahead.
Todd Callender:No. I'm sorry. I was gonna say, in The Caribbean, I happen to live in The Caribbean. I noticed that the only place, the the humans are gonna be allowed to live is in Puerto Rico. Everywhere else is gonna be put back to wilderness.
Todd Callender:And funny enough, the prime minister of Barbados A Couple Months ago said that she wanted to preposition military rescue ships at the Northern Part Of The Caribbean and the Southern Part Of The Caribbean, to to help survivors. She didn't say survivors of what, but apparently there's going to be some calamity where we're gonna need, you know, saving. So this is in process. Like I said, there's already been a Marburg epidemic in in Africa. It's a function of time before they roll it out, and they go there's I mean, even under Circla, there's something called the BUILD Act.
Todd Callender:The Build Back Better, that's, you know, 2018 when they introduced this. It's all all you have to do is open your ears and your eyes. It's all around you everywhere. It's not like we have to question whether they're to do this stuff. It's a way of functional win.
Todd Callender:And I suspect that it's pretty soon because you hear the Secretary of the Treasury openly talking about the US Treasury defaulting on its debt payment to the Federal Reserve. What do you think that's going to do to those little debt instruments you're carrying around in your pocket that you call cash? Those are debt instruments dependent wholly on the creditworthiness of the US government, who's telling you they're going to default on their It's not a function of it. This is simply a win, and I think it's in the near future.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah, I think that I talk a lot about the state of the dollar and the sovereign debt crisis and just the derivatives markets and frightening aspect. I think that really the central bank digital currency, it's, know, problem reaction solution, right? Problem is the debt, you know, the complete, you know, fiat currency, they took off the gold standard, printing unlimited, getting as much they can out of it, knowing that the reaction is maybe the collapse of that and the solution is all, well, while the dollar's collapsing, you know, you can come in and we have this central bank digital currency and allows them
Robert Kiyosaki:to
Todd Callender:basically You do that.
Seth Holehouse:It's like, why are they sending billions and billions to Ukraine? Why are they passing, you know, one point however many trillion dollar bills? Because they're trying to squeeze as much out of the system before it collapses because once it collapses, it gets wiped clean. And they're going to say, well, the whole system is now wiped clean. But now we're going to have a token based digital currency and probably universal basic income.
Seth Holehouse:And that's the writing I see on the wall.
Todd Callender:No, you're you're completely right. So for instance, the plan was to have a single market currency called the crypto SDR. The SDR is the IMF space currency, and of course, they run the debt model economy, the global debt model economy. In more recent times, and I know this because of my regular business, they have they have moved from the SDR, special drawing rights, to monitor monetary gold. And I know people in the refining business, the mining business, and the hallmarking business, all of whom say that they can't keep pace with orders from governments and even counties and provinces.
Todd Callender:They're all moving towards monetary gold because they know it's coming and these little worthless pieces of paper people will refuse to accept in the near future. You've got that exactly right.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah, it's why they're talking about de dollarization. That's the term and Russia and China are really pushing behind that as well. I mean, they Well, they have.
Todd Callender:But you know, Russia tied the Ruple to to gold. It's 5,000 Ruple to the gram. So, I think the Chinese are doing the exact same thing. So I think gold and silver are the right way to go. I think you've got that exactly So
Seth Holehouse:knowing all this, do you still have hope? I mean, do you have hope for the future of humanity? Yeah. A lot. And where does that hope come from?
Todd Callender:Well, frankly, things that you just said, right, that you and your wife figured it out that this isn't about hunkering down with your family. This is about spreading the love, the joy, and and humanity because that's the fight we're in. We are in the literally the fight for the survival of our species, and it takes all of us, Lincoln Arms, to overcome it, and people are starting to understand that. Things in no small part to you, right, because people have to identify what the problem is, and that's what you're out there doing. You're sharing so people can see it.
Todd Callender:They can reason their way through it. And if people have information, they'll they'll choose wisely. Our founders of our of our government knew that. So that's really our job is to help people choose wisely, and that's happening right now. I'm I'm really quite encouraged.
Seth Holehouse:And something that that's interesting that I'll share with that process is that I believe that one of the greatest tools that the elites or really that Satan is using is fear. And in fear is something that separates us from God. It separates us from compassion. It makes us very selfish, very self centered. And I can tell you that when we were focused on ourselves, was it goes both ways.
Seth Holehouse:It's like being fearful makes you focus on yourself, focusing on yourself makes you fearful. And when we were focused on ourselves like that, we were much more fearful, much more concerned. But when we've switched over to being focused on others, it's amazing because that spirit of it really uprooted it. And it's like, you know what, whatever's gonna come, we're just gonna do our best. And it's a pretty amazing transformation.
Seth Holehouse:So for the folks that are watching and listening, that's one of the most important things that I've come to in my own journey with this is, like, we really cannot be controlled by fear. I mean, fear is the mechanism that got half the world vaccinated. You know, fear is the mechanism that people willingly give up their rights. It's really fear. So if we can stop that, it's it's it's like what you said.
Seth Holehouse:It's like opt out. It's okay. How do you how do you win their game? You stop playing. Right?
Todd Callender:You stop playing the game. That's exactly and I would add to what you just said. Sometimes it's not easy to recognize. You know, it's it's our belief in a higher power that calms the fear. I don't care what happens on this world because my soul is going somewhere else.
Todd Callender:It's universal when people have their relationship with God, they're not afraid.
Seth Holehouse:I couldn't agree more. And a couple years back, I lost my brother to cancer, he's only 33. And it was a really extremely traumatic process and actually has become a combination of cancer plus medical malpractice and the whole thing was just really not not good and it prolonged for probably eighteen months. And, but it was very difficult, but the one thing that like, it was probably one of the strongest moments in my life for me spiritually to get to the other side of that. And really what it came back to was just like, well, he's not dead.
Seth Holehouse:His soul has just moved on and he was a good person. He fought for humanity. He was an amazing, you know, in so many different ways. And I was like, he's with God now. He's probably looking down on me saying, like, bro, why are you worried about me?
Seth Holehouse:Why are you upset about me? Like, I'm like a billion times better than you could imagine. And so that's helped me because it's like, well, you know what, if I wake up one day, and I got some blue helmet UN soldiers standing over my bed, you know, forcefully, you know, jabbing me. It's like, well, you know what, God, if it's my time, I'm happy to come. If it's not my time, I'm going to keep fighting.
Todd Callender:I always figure some fella is going to try that, you know, if he's going to kill me, he might as well come along for the ride.
Seth Holehouse:Exactly. Exactly. Oh, so it's such a great opportunity to talk with you. You is there a particular website I can pull up that I should direct people to if they want to follow what you're doing or?
Todd Callender:Vaxchoice is really the best place to find me. It's vaxxchoice.com. I've got a wonderful team of people that help not just promoting what it is I'm saying, the promotion of things that can help people is free. It's a repository of everything that I just said to you that we've talked about. There's a library of sources there, including self help legal documents.
Todd Callender:And now every Friday, we're doing a Q and A and, you funny enough are going to join me on that. It's coming soon every Friday, and people can it's based on CloudHub, and then people can send a text in and or a note, and then we'll answer questions and just have a chat where people can actually participate in that. And then we'll expand that at some point. So that's the best place to find me. I also do a lot of work at truthforhealth.org, then my law firm is Disabled Rights Advocates, dradvocates dot com.
Seth Holehouse:Okay, great. Great. So I've got that up there, and I'll make sure that's up for people to see. Beautiful. So Vaxchoice.com.
Seth Holehouse:V A X S choice Com. Alright. Well, Todd, it was such a it was an honor, but it was a pleasure talking with you.
Todd Callender:I'll have to come
Seth Holehouse:visit you in the The Caribbean or you can come up here and I promise I got clean water and clean air.
Todd Callender:Deal. You got a deal.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah, but thank you for what you're doing. And, you know, thank you for being out there and, and also a big thanks goes back to Ann Vandersteel that first connected us.
Todd Callender:You bet.
Seth Holehouse:You know, I've been searching for a way to get ahold of you and Ann happened to be the magic person. So thank you for what you're doing. Take And I really look forward to having you on again.
Todd Callender:Good. Alright, brother. We'll do it again. Thanks, God Alright,
Seth Holehouse:folks, as you could see in that conversation, what Todd is saying is exactly what I've been saying about the financial system. They're planning on collapsing everything. They want to get rid of the dollar. The dollar, they're squeezing as much as they can out of it. And then they're gonna pull the plug on it and say, well, sorry that all collapsed here.
Seth Holehouse:Here you go. Here's our central bank digital currency. And oh, by the way, it means you're gonna have to play by all of our rules because look at China, look at their social their social credit system. This is the plan. So in addition to buying food, doing things we can to protect our families, we have to protect ourselves financially because this is where they're gonna try to control us.
Seth Holehouse:And to do that, I genuinely recommend putting your money into silver silver and gold. Right? Real physical assets have stood the test of time. And look, if you already know someone that where you get your silver and gold from that you trust, great. That's good.
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Seth Holehouse:This is the time if you've been thinking about it, if you're on the on the fence about this, now really is the time. And I'm not saying take everything you own, put it into gold and silver, but just have a little bit set aside because even a little bit will go a very long way if things turn out like my guest Todd Callender believes that they will. Alright, folks. Thank you so much.