013: Realign With Your Superpowers

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Josh (00:00)
What is up guys. Welcome back to another episode of the process of becoming podcast with Josh. And my name is Bill. All right guys, this is a full length episode that we have been jumping at the bit to get into. in fact, we actually recorded part of this episode, that we're going to cover today as our very first episode, but it didn't get recorded. Cause we are newbies. I was going to say I got uncored, but I saw how we missed Bill. Yeah, it just completely, it's in the ether somewhere. So, but Dino, how you been man?

Dino Music (00:00)
What is up guys, welcome back to another episode of Processing Between Podcasts with Josh. And my name is Dino. All right guys, this is a cool example that we haven't jumped into yet to get into. In fact, we actually recorded part of this episode that we're going to cover today as our very first episode, but it didn't get recorded. Well, we're newbies. I was going to say, I think it technically got recorded, but somehow we messed it up. It's completely, it's in the computer. So, but Dino, how you been?

I've been good, bro. It's been a, how long has it been, dude? It feels like honestly over like two months, but it's probably been like two weeks. It feels like forever. It's loud. So it's just, you know, what we're going to do. We're going to stop promising it after every week. Yeah. Yeah. We've been loving that. Yeah. Yeah. I think all the time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I think it's funny. I've thought about this the last, I think from the last episode we shot before that, me and you haven't actually had a, one of our quick hitter talks.

Josh (00:30)
It's been good bro. It feels like 2 months but it's probably been like 2 weeks. It feels like forever. Yeah, it's wild. It's wild. So it's just, you know, what we're gonna do, we're gonna stop promising an episode every week. We've been loving the Quick Hitters though. Like the Quick Hitters are fun. I think all the time, you know. So just being able to get that out helps. Yeah, I think I've thought about this since the last episode. I think from the last episode we shot before that, me and you haven't actually had to work with the hitters.

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Dino Music (00:59)
like we used to. And obviously it is a busy time for both of us. So it's like, I get it. But it's funny how you can know this. I'm like, dude, it's something's off. You know, I'm like, dude, I haven't had had these type of conversations in a while. And it's like, dude, I look forward, we both look obviously forward to this because we get to have those. But one thing we used to do was during the day and we would stop and have a 10, 20 minute conversation about something crazy. It's been a while since we had those too, dude. So how long is it for this? Cause it hasn't been that much.

Josh (01:25)
Well, for me, honestly, a lot of that is, I just been, it's, it's grind season, so to speak. And for me, it's like, I always, I'm always productive in the evenings, but I used to wrap my day down just by getting on TikTok a little bit. And then I would see something and kind of like distinct through it. And I haven't been doing that lately. It's been a lot more reading, studying and debriefing right before bed. So, but yeah, now that we got that Joe Rogan, Terrence Howard episode, we're going to be talking about that a lot. Yeah. Yeah.

Dino Music (01:28)
Yeah, 1000 % That makes sense. my god.

Yeah, yeah, like I told you, dude, that one's gonna, I'm on my second time playing it and dude, it takes so much. Like you're gonna have to listen to it five times to just grasp what he's saying. Yeah. Terrence Howard is a freaking man, dude. That is one thing I did not know and I'm excited. I'm excited to keep listening to that one. The thing that excites me about that is knowing like, yeah, he was like a sleeper, right? Like he was a, Terrence Howard is an actor and that's what I'd known for it and I saw clips of him. But if there's one of them, there's probably another person out there like that that might come forward and start telling him.

Josh (01:54)
Yeah. Well, the thing that excites me about that is knowing like, he was like a sleeper, right? Like he was a Terrence Howard is an actor. And then that's what I've known him for. Then I saw clips of him. But if there's one of him, there's probably another person out there like that that might come forward and start telling him talking about the same stuff and confirm it a little bit more.

Dino Music (02:19)
talking about safe stuff in your career a little bit more. That is true. I mean, I feel like one of the biggest reasons he's out there is because he was an actor, because he is pretty well known, you know, and he did make that switch. I don't remember exactly when, but like, dude, like we talked about it before this, like he was such a good actor and then out of nowhere, it was like, yo, this guy's a lot deeper than the looks of it, right? And it's, and to your point, it's like, how many more people are there out there like that? They wouldn't know about. Dude, it's just crazy when you start to realize,

Josh (02:24)
out there because he was an actor, because he is pretty well known. You know, and he did make that switch. I don't remember exactly when, but like, dude, like we talked about before this, like he was such a good actor from out of nowhere. It was like, yo, this guy's a lot deeper than the looks of it, right? And to your point, I think 24 people are out there like that. They really know about it. It's crazy when you start to realize all the potentials of this life. And I think it can be scary, but also awesome at the same time. Yeah.

Dino Music (02:47)
all the potentials of this life. And I think it can be scary, but also awesome at the same time. And I think that's why we love the concept of just talking about humans life, where things can go because there is such a, there's so much to it. You know what I mean? yeah. It really, hearing the line for 10 minutes that was in that podcast so far, it shines a light, and I've known this business confirmation for like the literal untapped human potential. Correct.

Josh (02:53)
I think that's what we, the concept of just talking about humans life or things can go because there is such a, there's so much. Yeah. yeah. it really, just hearing him talk in the brief 10 minutes of listening to that podcast so far, it shines a light and I've known this, but it's just confirmation again of like the literal untapped human potential. Correct. And like the human experience is so much more than what we like, we, we're not even like a minuscule.

Dino Music (03:15)
And like the human experience is so much more than what we like. We're not even like minuscule percent of a percent to where we possibly could be as a society and as humans. and it's really pretty cool to see. So it's like that a little bit limitless. I think about that and I'm like, maybe we're off with only knowing 10%. Maybe we know two. Maybe we barely know any. You know what I mean?

Josh (03:23)
percent of a percent to where we possibly could be as a society and as humans. And it's really freaking cool to see. So it's like that. Yeah. I think about that. I'm like, maybe we're all. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean. Yeah. Like the cool part about it is because if you ever feel when you hear people talk about, well, it's huge, you can see it's a fine tune. You're working full of stuff like we'll do when you have guys like power.

Dino Music (03:40)
But dude, that's kind of like the cool part about it is because if you ever, you know when you hear people talk about like, humans can do anything they set their mind to, you know, we're capable of so much. Well, do we have guys like Terrence Howard and these guys that come out with some of the things that, you know, we would have never even thought about that end up being true or that end up like, you know, coming out and like, my God, I didn't even know this was possible. It does really confirm that we are insanely infinitely like unlimited in our potential.

Josh (03:52)
with some of the things that we would have never thought about and that end up being true or that end up like, you know, coming out and all that kind of thing, even though it's possible, it does really confirm that we are insanely, incidentally, like unlimited in our country. And that's the crazy part about this, and I think that's why you and I enjoy this stuff so much, is because as students, like you do, bro, if we all started today, I still believe that from what I know, you know what I mean, hopefully, partner, if you can still make that life.

Dino Music (04:08)
And that's the crazy part about this. And I think that's why you and I enjoy this stuff so much is because as humans, it's like, dude, you can, bro, if we lost everything today, I still believe that from what I know, what, you know what I mean? What we've learned is we can still make that life possible. Even if we did lose everything today, it's like, that's the type of ability we have. And I think that's the exciting piece of why we've been doing this is, is like, how do we unlock more of that? You know what I mean? So that's, that's what I, where my mind goes when I hear stuff like that. Cause I'm like, dude, the world is so much bigger than we can even imagine.

Josh (04:22)
Yeah, and for me like the thing that drives me for the stuff like that is it makes me want to become like 10 % better every day instead of just 1 %

Dino Music (04:38)
and our potential so unlimited. So it's like, dude, how do we unlock it? Yeah. And for me, like, stuff like that is it makes you want to be up like 10 % better every time. That was possible, you know? Because I will look at it realistically because for me, like, my limited belief, right, of like, all right, this is what I want to achieve and be like, cool, no, that's opened up more. So now I got like another 800 % above that. So it's like, you just want to take it on faster to get closer to that. I see what you're saying. That's wild. But I mean, even just for the -

Josh (04:49)
I mean, because like, because like, like, like, realistically, because for me, like one, like my limited belief, right? I'm like, all right, this is what I want to achieve and be like, cool. No, that's opened up even more. So now I got like another 800 % above that. So it's like, dude, I want to take ground faster to get closer to that. it's wild, but I mean, even just for the people listening, if you just become a little bit better every day, that's the goal that we have here. That's the mission that we're on. so start out just by saying it, we'll probably end with saying it, but if you find any value from today's podcast,

Dino Music (05:08)
That is a little while we're here like that is the only reason

Josh (05:18)
which I know you will. We have a really good topic to cover. Share it. You know, just put it out there, throw it out on social media, tell a friend about it when you get into a conversation about what podcast you listen to, what value you're gaining. So that's what we do. That's why we're here and we appreciate all the love and support.

Dino Music (05:35)
We want to share these things and we want to help out as much as we can because, you know, it's a conversation that you and I have, but it's also the things that we've seen in our life that have impacted us, helped us out, and truly put us on this trajectory to continue doing more of these things. But it's also where I think the excitement for wanting to get better has come from. And dude, that's why we're sharing this. You know, we hope you guys take value from this. And if you do like Josh says, share the show. It's all we ask for. You know what I mean? That's it. We just want to help. So, that's it. All right, dog, let's kick it off. Yeah.

Josh (05:46)
We're going to get into defining what it means to be intentional. I'm talking to Dino a little bit about before the show.

Dino Music (06:05)
They're just going to lay out the next 40 minutes or so. We're going to get into defining what it means to be intentional. Talking to Dino a little bit about the foolish show. A lot of the mentorship that I give people, it really just comes down to being intentional. I think that is a key overarching idea of the superpowers that we have as human beings. It's literally just, you know, I say superpowers quote unquote, but that is something that we can all tap into and be better with and it will literally change so much about our lives.

Josh (06:15)
a lot of the mentorship that I give people, it really just comes down to being intentional. And I think that is a key overarching idea of the superpowers that we have as human beings. It's literally just, you know, I say superpowers quote unquote. but that is something that we can all tap into and be better with. And it will literally change so much about our life, not only from like the experiences that we have, but who you become as a human being and also the experiences that you have. Right. So something that I know just looking back on my life that has made such a huge difference for me.

Dino Music (06:33)
not only from the experience that we have, but you become as a human being, absolutely. And also the experiences that you have, right? So something that I know just looking back in my life, that has made such a huge difference for me. And then we're gonna get into some other things that Dino and I kind of see as quote unquote human superpowers that we have. That if we can just have an analysis, kind of get us moving in that direction, become an FS version of ourselves. So it's gonna be a fun episode. But yeah, Dino, let's start this out. I'm gonna throw you through this to your direction. Let's go.

Josh (06:45)
and then we're going to get into some other things that Dino and I kind of see as quote unquote human superpowers that we have. That if we can just hone in on those, it's going to get us moving in a direction of becoming that best version of ourselves. So it's going to be a fun episode. but yeah, Dino, let's start this out. I'm going to throw you, throw this to your direction to start in your words and your thought process. What does it mean to be intentional? This is a good one. one thing that I want to, cause I think a lot of people use this.

Dino Music (07:02)
In your words, your walk process, what does that mean to be intentional? Ooh, this is a good one. One thing that I kind of want to, cause I think a lot of people, when we hear this, we think it's like a selective thing, right? Like it happens when we choose to think about intent, but in reality, intent's happening at all times, right? And an intent is why are you doing what you're doing? You know, from literally going to the bathroom to like, Hey, the conversation that you're about to have, like, what is your intent?

Josh (07:14)
We think it's like a selective thing, right? Like it happens when we choose to think about it. But in reality, it's happening at all times, right? And an intent is why are you doing what you're doing? You know, from literally going back into like, hey, conversation that your class has, what is your intent? You know, like, what is the intention behind what you're doing? And I think the cool part about this is that it's happening at all times. The only difference is...

Dino Music (07:32)
You know, like, what is the intention behind what you're doing? And I think the cool part about this is that is happening at all times. The only difference is sometimes we're not checking it. Most of the times we're not taking that step back to look at like, Hey, why am I doing this? What is the purpose? And what am I trying to get out of this? Right. And again, I like to highlight the fact that we're doing it at all times because a lot of the times I think when we talk about intent, people think it's like this crazy thing you have to access, but.

Josh (07:39)
Sometimes people want to check in. Most of the times, you cannot take an extra step back to look at like, hey, why am I doing this? What is the purpose? And what am I trying to get out of this? Right? And again, I like the fact that we're doing it all the time because a lot of the times I think when we talk about it, people think it's like this crazy thing I have to act at. But really, the craziest thing I have to act at is the question that you ask yourself, and it's why and where do I want to go about this? And it's really those questions that decide where is my focus on.

Dino Music (07:58)
really the craziest thing you have to access is a question that you ask yourself and it's why and where do I want to go? How do I want to do this? And it's literally those questions that decide, hey, where's my intent focused on? And I kind of hope that answers your question to start off, but like that's kind of where my mind goes, right? Where it's like intent is solely based on why are you doing what you were doing? And what is your intention behind it? Like for example, it's like, let's say I call you tomorrow, right? Let's say you need help with something.

Josh (08:09)
Yeah.

Dino Music (08:25)
And you're like, hey, Dino, can you come over and help me out with this? I'm like, all right, cool. I'm going to go help you regardless, right? But option one is I'm helping you because I want you to help me in return one day when I need it. That is my intent. That is why I'm helping out. Now, second option is, hey, you called me, you asked for help, and I'm going to help you out because I care about you, because I love you. And I'm like, it's the right thing to do. And all I want to do is help and make sure you're in a good spot. Two different forms of intent, same objective is complete.

Josh (08:39)
Now, they can announce, hey, you called me, you asked for help, and I'm going to help you out, because I care about you, because I love you, and I'm like, it's the right thing to do, and all I want to do is help and make sure you're in the spot. Two different forms of intent, same objective as complete. Two completely different outcomes in relationship and response to your life and response to what happens. And I always go back to that, because I know it sounds so simple, but just that example. Again, it's like the mission and the result that we're going to be, like, I'm going to come over and help you out with garbage.

Dino Music (08:53)
two completely different outcomes in relationship and response to your life and response to what happens. And I always go back to this dude because I know it sounds so simple, but just that example, again, it's like the mission and the result that we're gonna, like I'm gonna come over and help you out regardless. But my intent literally decides what happens after that, right? And it's, you know, for example, if I go with option one and I do that because I want something in return, dude, you and me are probably not gonna end up being friends.

Josh (09:07)
But my intent literally decides what happens after that. Right? And it's, you know, for example, if I go with option one, and I do that because I want something in return, dude, you and me are probably not going to end up being friends. You're probably going to end up being a fight because it becomes transactional and all this stuff. But option number two, what if you and I become closer? What if there's a moment in time that I actually felt that I'm like, I didn't do it because I wanted your help. But I'm like, damn, dude, the only person I know in my life right now is Josh McCall and you're there.

Dino Music (09:18)
You're probably going to end up in a fight because then it becomes transactional and all this stuff. But option number two, what if you and I become closer? What if there's a moment in time that I actually need help? And I'm like, damn dude, I didn't do it because I wanted your help. But I'm like, damn dude, only person I know in my life right now is Josh McCall. And you're there because of that moment and because my intent was there. And that's really how I look at intent, dude. It's like you and I can do the exact same thing, but in our hearts, why are we doing it? What is our mission?

Josh (09:36)
Because of that moment and because my intent was there. And that's really how I look at intent, dude. It's like, you and I can do the exact same thing, but in our hearts, why are we doing it? What is our mission? Because that's the size of where your life goes. Yeah, that's really solid. So if you look up the definition of intentional or intent, it is done on purpose. Right? So you just nailed that completely. Like you 100 % nailed it on completely.

Dino Music (09:47)
because that decides where your life goes from there. Yeah, that's really solid. So if you look up the definition of intentional or intense, it is done on purpose. Wow. Right. So you just know that completely. I didn't know that. Because like the why there is a purpose. What's the purpose of you coming over and helping me? Is it so you get something in return? Absolutely. So that I can just I love this view and help out. And I think about that from that example, another realistic one that a lot of people can resonate with is a car salesman. You go to a car lot.

Josh (10:02)
because like the why there is the purpose. Like what's the purpose of you coming over and helping me? Is it so you get something in return or is it so like, Hey, I love this dude. I'm gonna help him out. And I think about that from that example, another realistic one that a lot of people can resonate with is a car salesman. Right. You go to a car lot. If that guy's intent is to sell you a car, which let's face it, like it's always going to be that as a, it's an underlying scenario. It's his career, right? It's his job. He's what he's designed to do. But if, if I look at it like this intent has a smell to it, right. And.

Dino Music (10:17)
If that guy's intent is to sell you a car, would you let's face it, like it's always going to be that as an underlying scenario. It's his job, it's what he's designed to do. But if, I look at it like this, intent has a smell to it, right? And if I'm going to a car lot and that guy is like, I'd do this guy, salesman, all he is doing is selling me a car. Really the key there in sales is if you're a salesperson, you're the tip for you. It comes down to, are you trying to solve a problem or are you just trying to give me something?

Josh (10:32)
If I'm going to a car lot and that guy is like, I do, this guy is a salesman. All he is doing is selling me a car. Right. And really the key there, and cause I'm in sales is, and if you're a salesperson, here's a tip for you. It comes down to, are you trying to solve a problem? Are you just trying to get me something that I don't think that you don't think I actually need? But the idea there is if he's actually just trying to help me and just trying to solve a problem for me, I'm going to feel that I'm going to sense that. And then you look at, we talked about the law of attraction on here.

Dino Music (10:46)
that I don't think they don't think I actually need. That's the intent. But the idea there is if he's actually just trying to help me and just try to solve a problem for me, I'm going to feel that. I'm going to sense that. And then you look at, we talked about the law of attraction on here. There's a law of reciprocity that goes into place as well, right? Which is another law of the universe. And it's like, if you have the positive intent with wanting to come over and help me, guess what? You don't need to ask me to ever help you. I naturally want to give back to you and want to fill that gap.

Josh (11:00)
there's a law of reciprocity that goes into place as well, right? Which is another law of the universe. And it's like, if you have the positive intent with wanting to come over and help me, guess what? You don't need to ask me to ever help you. I naturally want to give back to you and want to fill that gap. So that alone though, can be a very dangerous thing. And it's a big reason why I'm not a huge fan of Christmas and then give holidays because like you get like, like my wife, for example, she'll get these like the Christmas picture cards and she's like, now we got to send them one.

Dino Music (11:13)
Correct. So that alone though can be a very dangerous thing. And it's a big reason why I'm not a huge fan of Christmas. Because like, like my wife, for example, should we get these Christmas picture cards? Yeah. She's like, now we got to send them one. We don't ever talk to these people. We do not need to send them anything. Right. So it gets a little dangerous there as well. But intentional for me is to cap off what your definition, because I agree a thousand percent with that, is.

Josh (11:27)
Like, no, we don't. Like we don't ever talk to these people. We do not need to send them anything. Right. So I guess it gets a little bit dangerous there as well. But intentional intentional for me just to cap off what your definition, because I agree 1000 % with that, is intentionality should become something. Make it so that it's not what you do. It's who you are. Right. Intentionality with your words, intentionality with your thoughts.

Dino Music (11:42)
intentionality should become something, make it so that it's not what you do, it's who you are. Right? Intentionality with your words. Intentionality with your thoughts. Right? So we're saying, yeah, that's what we talk about all the time. It's like that first thought that comes in, you can't really be intentional with that one. You can with the second one. what are you doing to turn that? So, and that's something you know, you're phenomenal with. So, but intentionality is a skill, really, truly. So you have to be intentional about being intentional.

Josh (11:54)
Right. Which again, which is what we talk about all the time is like that first thought that comes in. You can't really be intentional with that a lot of times, but you can with the second one, right? What are you doing to turn that? So, and that's something Dino you're phenomenal with. So, but intentionality, it's a, it's a skill really, truly. So you have to be intentional about being intentional. Right. So make it who you are, not necessarily what you do. There's a, there's a question I want to ask you because the, and the cool part about this is when you reference sales, the increase is.

Dino Music (12:11)
Okay. So make it who you are, not necessarily what you do. There's a question I want to ask you because, and the cool part about this is when you reference sales, it really is the biggest piece we see this at. As humans, we've all been sold at one point, right? Or someone has tried to sell us at one point. And with your experience, dude, and I know you can attest to this, but from your very first time you started coaching and doing these things compared to now.

Josh (12:23)
the experience we see is that at both like, as humans involved in traffic, or someone has tried to sell to that point. And with your experience, dude, and I know you can attest to this, but from your very first time, you know, you started coaching and doing these things compared to now, you know, and one thing you mentioned was like, the intent is to help people who are, you know, and do this and stuff, right? Like from the first day I met you to now, it's like, you always have the intent, but it's continued to become.

Dino Music (12:40)
You know, and one thing you mentioned was like, in intent, it becomes who you are. You know, and dude, this is something that I've seen in you too, right? Like from the first day I met you to now, it's like, you've always had the intent, but it's continued to become almost one of those things that's just embedded in you now that like, you can pull it out at any time. And it's to your point, it's not just a, you're thinking about it, it becomes who you are, right? And I've seen that with you. And now I wanted to ask you, dude, it's like, where do you see the shift in...

Josh (12:53)
Almost one of those things that's just embedded in you now that you can pull out at any time. It's your point. It's not just thinking about it. It becomes your art. Now I've seen that with you. And I wanted to ask you, where do you see this shift? And what are some examples where you try to actually stuff on and really work out, but then the moments were, which now is probably what I look at compared to all the people that you've got now, where you're very intentional. You're people are doing very well.

Dino Music (13:08)
What are some examples where you've seen where, hey, maybe you, you know, try to actually sell someone and it didn't work out. But then the moments were, which like now is probably what I look at compared to all the people that you coach now, like dude, where you're very intentional, like dude, your people are doing very well, right? And the people that you have, they care about you. They're hungry, they're killing, they're doing amazing things. And it's because your intent shifted, you know, and I don't know if there's any examples that you have, but you know, kind of wanted to pick your brain on how you've seen this work for you from like your day one to now.

Josh (13:21)
Right. And the people that you have, they care about you, they're hungry, they're killing, they're trying to make you feel pleasure and shit. You know, and I don't know if there's any, but you know, kind of wanted to pick your brain on how this worked for you from like your day one now and how that's kind of been embedded in you. Right. Because someone who does this for a living, it's like, dude, that is something you always have to, that is from your success and that's why you got to it. So kind of touch on that. If that makes sense. It's a very, very simple answer.

Dino Music (13:36)
and how that's kind of been embedded in you, right? Because someone who does this for a living, it's like, dude, that is something you always have to, that is how your success comes out, right? And that's why you got to where you got to. So kind of touch on that, if that makes sense. It's a very recent class. It all shifted for me. This started way back before I moved more to the first floor because I was in this house before I came here. I never sold anything.

Josh (13:51)
It all shifted for me. And this, this started way back before I even worked the first form. because I was in sales before I came here. but I never sold anybody anything because when I tried to sell people things, I sucked at it and it wasn't good. Right. I would go to these seminars and they would teach us, like go practice this close. Right. They actually taught us a close bro. It was so cringy where like you're in it's in at home sales and you get to the door after they tell you, no, like nine times.

Dino Music (14:02)
because when I tried to sell people things, I sucked at it and it wasn't good. I would go to these seminars and go to these seminars and go practice this close. They actually taught us the close, bro. It was so cringy. It's in the home sales. You get to the door after they tell you no like nine times. And you get to the door and you're like, look, you know, if there's any way that we can just get this done tonight, I would really hate to waste all the time that I had away from my family. It's not going to make it productive. Wow. I literally kind of walked out of the seminar. I'm like, this is fun.

Josh (14:19)
And you get to the door and you're like, look, you know, if there's any way that we could just get this done tonight, like I would really hate to waste all the time that I had away from my family tonight. I'd make like to make it productive. And this, it was so bad. I was like, I am literally, I literally got up and walked out of the sales seminar. I'm like, this is stupid. So, my goal with everybody is to help people solve a problem, right. And where the intentionality comes in to that equation is you stop worrying about the outcome, right? You just focus on the process and you have zero attachment to the.

Dino Music (14:32)
So my goal with everybody is to help people solve the problem. The intentionality comes into that equation is you stop worrying about the outcome. You just focus on the process and have zero attachment to the outcome. I don't care if you buy this or not. My goal is to simply show you that the problem exists, walk you through the best options you have to solve it. If I'm not the guy for you, I'm going to put you in the direction of somebody that can't help you. Because I care.

Josh (14:48)
Hey, I don't care if you buy this or not. My goal is to simply show you that the problem exists, walk you through the best options, you have to solve it. If I'm not the guy for you, I'm going to point you in the direction of somebody that can help you because I care. And that's all I want is for you to solve this problem and you to feel the best about the solution that you choose. That's it. Right. So even here, it's like even with the mentorship and the things that I do, it's like, that's the biggest thing I try to help people understand is, hey, don't be attached to the outcome. You know, if you're telling, if you're trying to position with them solution, they have to make the choice.

Dino Music (15:00)
And that's all I want is for you to solve this problem and you to feel the best about the solution they choose. Love that too. Right, so even here, even with the mentorship and the things that I do, it's like that's the biggest thing I try to help people understand. It's like don't be attached to the outcome. If you're trying to position with a solution, all they have is the choice. And if you run the right process and you do your job as far as being a good human being, make them fall in love with you and what you're doing, they're gonna support you because they have all the rest of the process. Again, you give them enough value, they're gonna want to get back to you. That's beautiful, bro. So at the end of the day, that's a win -win.

Josh (15:15)
And if you run the right process and you do your job as far as this being a good human being, make them fall in love with you and what you're doing. They're going to support you. It's that law of reciprocity. Again, you give them enough value. They're going to want to give it back to you. So, and at the end of the day, that's a win -win because that person doesn't feel like they got sold. They're like, damn, thank you for solving my problem. Seriously. And then you win because you helped them solve that problem. The world turns everything. Yeah. And the world turns everything. Exactly. It's really the key to everything. And you did the sad part about it.

Dino Music (15:28)
The world here is everything yeah, and the world here is your intent that dude it's that simple that's beautiful man I love that Dude it sucks, you know, like even you going through that example dude, I'm just like I can't believe that that would be a closing

Josh (15:43)
You're seeing them more and more, but like with sales seminars, so many people still do it old school, man.

Dino Music (15:56)
to put someone to literally that's a guilt trip. You know what I mean? I'm like, dude, that is probably the worst thing. Dude, I wouldn't even feel comfortable doing that to someone. Like when you talk about intent, talk about the wrong intent, dude. That is terrible. Yeah. Yeah. People would do it. Then they get the contract and a few days later, you're canceled. Of course. We have a three day. Yeah. But guys, it's taking that to a higher level application. Right. And just because I know not everyone has a different sales, but here's the deal. You are.

Josh (16:08)
Well, it's sick and people would do it and I'm like, man, so then they'd get the contract and then two days later would cancel. Yeah. Like they have a three day right of rescission. Like it's the stupidest thing in the world. But guys, to take that to a practical application, right? And just because I know not everybody out there thinks that they're in sales, but here's the deal. You are right. Human relationship is it is sales. And where this goes wrong in human relationships is manipulation, right? Because you're trying to worry about an outcome and you're trying to get your outcome. And then you do.

Dino Music (16:25)
Human relationship is sales. And where this goes wrong in human relationships is manipulation. Because you're trying to worry about an outcome and you're trying to get your outcome and then you do weird things, say things, manipulate energy absolutely in a way to get it to work out in your favor. And it shouldn't be that. So even from a human relationship standpoint, detach from the outcome. There's never a wrong time to do the right thing. And if you do the right thing, they're going to feel that. And guess what? It'll probably work out in your favor anyway.

Josh (16:37)
weird things, say things, manipulate energy in a way to get it to work out in your favor. And it shouldn't be that, you know, so even from a human relationship standpoint, detached from the outcome, there's never a wrong time to do the right thing, you know, and if you do the right thing, they're going to feel that and guess what? It'll probably work out in your favor anyway. But when you detach it from the outcome, it can also help you decrease anxiety and stress and all that things like, Hey, like, it's cool. What's going to happen is what's going to happen. I'm going to control the best that I can from my energy and my intent standpoint.

Dino Music (16:55)
And dude that actually that's an episode I think by itself by the way And when you really think about this dude and something we've talked about too But it's can't control everything right and you have to control what you can control and to your point one of the things you'll never be able to control as Many times as we hear it is the result

Josh (17:06)
and do that actually. That's an episode I think by myself, by the way. Really think about this, and it's something we've talked about too, but it's, you can't control everything, right? And you have to control what you can control. And to your point, one of the things that never gives you control, as many times as we hear it, is the result, right? If you focus on just the output, and what you do, don't worry about the result, because a lot of the times where people fail is when they focus on that result so much, right? And they're working, working, working.

Dino Music (17:23)
Right? If you focus on just the output and what you do, don't worry about the result because a lot of the times where people fail is when they focus on that result so much, right? And they're working, working, working for this result and then it doesn't happen. They're like, it's over. I'm done. I'm not good enough. Blah, blah, blah. That's, that's where you fail. But if you look at your output, what you put out, right? The work that you did, the time that you spent, if you look at those things, you know, like I controlled those and I did my best.

Josh (17:35)
Yeah, but if you look at your

Dino Music (17:50)
Hey, the outcome didn't work out my way, but cool. I know what I continue need to do. Like continue what I need to continue to do to get to where I want to go. Right. And I think that is something that we lose sight of so much, bro. Because again, it kind of, you know, when he goes back to sales and all these different things, it's, Hey, you, if you can remove the piece of like, I got to sell this to make this money. And you're like, if I can just do the right thing, those sales will come and regardless, right? Like the law of reciprocity, dude, the world works in a way that you give out, it'll give back to you, but only if you do it with the right intent.

Josh (18:02)
It's hey if you can remove so like I got to sell this week this money you like if I can just do the right thing those say

Dino Music (18:20)
Right. And I think again, when we were talking about, because, you know, one thing that we were going to discuss and we are going to discuss this human superpowers, right. And intent is one of those superpowers. And you also said a word of detachment, right. And detaching is also something that I think a lot of us, when we hear that word, it sounds, doesn't sound as good as it actually means, if that makes sense, right. Because when you detach, it allows you to kind of see things from a different point of view.

Josh (18:31)
Right? And detaching is also something that I think a lot of us, when we hear that word, it doesn't sound as good as it actually means, if that makes sense. Right? Because when you detach, it allows you to kind of see things from a different point of view. But when people hear detaching, they go into this like, hang your thing, or it's like, I gotta remove myself and do all this stuff. It's like, no, no, no. The reason you detach is to be able to make the right decision based on what's best for everyone or what's best for everyone. Right? So if everyone would have to do that, we're the type of thing.

Dino Music (18:45)
But when people hear detached, they go to this like negative thing where it's like, I got to completely remove myself and do all this stuff. And it's like, no, no, no. The reason you would attach is to be able to make the right decision based on what's best for everyone or what's best at the time. Right? So I kind of want to dive into that. When you hear detachment, you know, and that I, and we both believe that is one of the, the human superpowers that we can get to, but why do you think that is a superpower? Man, I'm gonna go, we were talking before this ends, talked about how I've learned about detachment multiple times. It's something you have to learn.

Josh (19:00)
You know, and that I and you both believe that is one of the human superpowers that we created, but I think that is power. Man, man. So we were talking a little bit before this and I talked about how I've learned about detachment multiple times. So, you know, it's something Jaco talks about a lot. I've learned it from him in person. I've learned it from JP Denell in person on the podcast in the books. And it finally clicked this past week reading through it. Detachment is a superpower because it allows you to actually see things for what they actually are.

Dino Music (19:15)
I've learned it from him in person, I've learned it from Dave Beacombelle in person, I own the podcast and the books. And I finally clicked this fast -speed reading through it. Detachment is super power because it allows you to actually see things through what they actually are. And when I think about detachment, it's not like going into a corner and hiding and not doing things. It's not detachment, it's like a lot of people look at it like I'm going to hide from certain things. Correct, like detached from the world time to time. Yeah, it's not that, it's detached from emotion.

Josh (19:28)
Right. And when I think about detachment, it's not like going into a corner and hiding, right. And not viewing things. It's not detachment in the sense of a lot of people look at it of like, I'm going to hide from the circumstances. Yeah, it's not that it's detached from the emotion.

Right? So one of the things it really clicked for me this week of, you know, when you're not detached, right? And anybody can think of an example of in their own life, when they've been in an argument or a situation or a high level discussion where like, you're just so laser focused on what you want to say and your viewpoint. Well, guess what? You can never ever, ever make a completely accurate assessment of what's happening. And you know this because after the fight's over, you're like, Holy crap, you do detach from it. And then you think through it and you're like, yeah, this is, this is how this could have gone.

Dino Music (19:43)
Right. So one of the things that really clicked with me this week of, you know, when you're not detached, right, and anybody can take an example of in their own life, they've been in an argument or a situation or a high level discussion where like you're just so, you're perfect. So what you want to say to your viewpoint, guess what? You can never ever ever make a completely accurate assessment of what's happening. And you know this, you can tap into the fights, you're like, crap, you do detach from it. And then you think through it and you're like, yeah, this is how this is going to go in a second.

Josh (20:13)
As long as you submit your ego and you look at it for what it is. So detachment for me, it's like, you literally can never have a true assessment of reality in that situation until you detach. Cause you're looking solely at your point of view. so something that I've been really focusing on this week is observing people's detachment. and I was talking to you about how I saw TJ do that and how he's been so well with it. But even for myself is like, all right, emotionally. Am I clenching my jaw or my shoulders up and tight?

Dino Music (20:13)
as long as you submit your ego and you look at it for what it is. So detachment from you is like, you literally can never have a true assessment of reality in that situation. Because you're looking solely at your opponent. So something that I've been really focusing on this week is observing people's detachment. And I was talking to you about how I saw TJ do that and how he's doing so well with it. But even for myself is like, all right, emotionally, am I crunching my jaw or my shoulders up and tight? They tense, right? Is my heart rate going up as somebody saying something to me?

Josh (20:40)
They tense, right? As my heart rate going up, as somebody saying something to me. But if I'm doing that, I'm not detached from the situation. I'm thinking a predetermined thought based off of what I want versus seeing the bigger picture. And again.

Dino Music (20:43)
But if I'm doing that, I'm not exactly from the situation. I'm thinking a predetermined thought based off of what I want versus seeing the bigger picture. And again, relationships, guys, this is absolutely huge. A lot of people ask me, and not a lot, but I've had questions over time of like, you know, we can't ever get in fights, and it's usually related to me trying to solve a problem for somebody getting in a fight with their spouse. And it's like, honestly, we really don't, because I've unknowingly or knowingly, whatever, gotten so good at detaching.

Josh (20:52)
relationships guys, this is absolutely huge. A lot of people, a lot of people ask me, and not a lot, but I've had questions over time of like, you know, do you and Kim ever get in the fights? And it's usually related to me trying to solve a problem for somebody getting in a fight with their spouse. And it's like, honestly, we really don't because I've unknowingly or knowingly whatever, gotten so good at detaching.

Because in my head, I'm thinking through like, all right, we're going to fight. We're going to end up getting over it. We're going to see each other's point of views and then everything's going to be good. So why not just skip to the, everything's going to be good part. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, no, it's not to say we don't have discussions, but, that's just how I look at it. I don't get heated in those situations, but I do see that in other relationships. So that is something that I'm working on.

Dino Music (21:13)
Because in my head, I'm like, all right, we're going to fight. We're going to end up getting over it. We're going to see each other's point of views and everything's going to be good. So why not just get to that? It's a really good point. Yeah. So it's like, no, it's not to say we don't have to get discussion. For sure. For sure. That's just how I look at it. I don't get heated in those situations, but I do see that in other relationships. That is something that I'm working on. Dude, I love that. And I think relationships is the perfect place you can see that really early on. And a lot of the times I think we're, to your point, we're trying to make our viewpoint the right one.

Josh (21:35)
questions.

Dino Music (21:42)
You know, we're thinking about us. We're, it's very personal, you know, and I think that's a tough part, man, because it's like, we're all in our own human experiences that life is happening to us and life is happening for us and it's us, us, us, us, us, right? And that is the hard part. And that's why detachment is so important because life doesn't revolve around just one person. You know, life is happening to all of us. It's happening for all of us at all at once. And we're all going through different things. And I think when you detach, you're able to understand a lot more, right?

But oftentimes, man, you know, we, we, the reason we don't detach is because I think we assume too much of what someone else's intent is. Right. Because detaching, you have to remove all emotion, right. And emotion detaches, you know, like, for example, if we were discussing something where we don't agree on something, right. Well, I don't like being wrong either do you. Right. So emotional, by the way. So I'm going to figure out, Hey, how do I make my point right? Because I want to be right. And I don't want to be wrong instead of like,

Josh (22:14)
or we don't.

Because I think we just do too much of what someone else's intent is. Because it's actually, you have to remove all the emotions. And emotion attaches, like for example, you were discussing something where you don't want to be on something. Well, I don't like people on, neither do you. So emotion is by the way. So I'm going to figure out how do I make my point right because I want to be right and I don't want to be wrong. Instead of like, hey man, actually, your point makes sense, but also my point makes sense if you think they can coexist.

Dino Music (22:41)
Hey man, actually your point makes sense, but also my point makes sense and maybe they can coexist. You know, and how often times do we do that, dude? We don't, right? Like, you know, one thing we mentioned, I want to, I don't know if it was last podcast or the podcast before this, but our religions, right? Completely different. But how are you and I able to have the same mission, same values, talk about the same things, care about people the same way? It's like, well, if my point of view was always right, you'd have to do exactly what I would do, right? But that's not true.

Josh (22:46)
You know, and how often times do we do that? We don't. Right? Like, you know, one thing we mentioned, I don't know if it was last podcast or the podcast before this, but our religion is completely different. But how are you and I able to have the same position, the same values, talk about the same things, care about people the same way? It's like, well, my point of view was always right. You have to do exactly what I would do. That's not true. How are we still able to understand? How are we still able to talk? How are we still able to have this type of friendship and relationship? You know, and I think that's what the world misses often times.

Dino Music (23:08)
And how are we still able to understand? How are we still able to talk? How are we still able to have this type of friendship and relationship? You know, and I think that's what the world misses oftentimes. You know, and again, from a relationship standpoint, but also in life and career and everything, right? If you can take a step back and look at everything in a third person point of view, it helps, man. It makes sense, right? It's like when you watch a movie, you know, when someone's going through those like, especially like an action movie, right? Like we're a thriller movie. You're going through and you're like watching this guy and you're like boom, boom, boom, but you're not in it, right?

Josh (23:16)
You know, and again, from a relationship standpoint, but also in my career and everything. Right, if you can take a step back and get everything cut, third person point view, it helps, man. It makes sense, right? Like when you watch a movie, you know, when someone's going through those like, especially like an action movie, right? Like we're in a thriller movie, going through it, you know, like watching a scouting movie, like, but you're not in it, right? But you kind of put yourself in it, you're like, I would do this, I would do this. Because you can see the third or fourth person point of view.

Dino Music (23:37)
But you kind of put yourself in it. You're like, I would do this, you would do this, I would do this. Because you can see it from a third person point of view. But if you were in it like that guy was, it's like, that's not what you're thinking because emotions are taking over. But oftentimes we play the guy in the movie instead of the guy watching the movie. And I think oftentimes that is what gets us in a bad spot. It gets us into arguments. And because of that, dude, I don't think we ever, not ever, but a lot of us don't ever really get to the relationships that we can get to.

Josh (23:43)
Right, but if you were in it like that guy was, it's like, that's not what you think because emotions are taking over, right? But oftentimes, you play the guy in the movie instead of the guy watching it. And I think oftentimes, that is what gets us in a that's argument, right? It gets us in the argument. And because of that, I don't think we ever...

ever but a lot of us are really into the relationships that we can get to, the spark in our life that we can get to where we're happy, where we're healthy, where we're enjoying, where we're content with things because oftentimes again we like to, we want to be right. So I think for me that's always kind of what I see happen. But it's one of those things that the sooner that you can remember, the sooner your life can get better. And the sooner that decision you can make, the faster you're going to grow in your career.

Dino Music (24:05)
the spot in our life that we can get to where we're happy, where we're healthy, where we're enjoying, where we're content with things. Because oftentimes, again, we like to, we want to be right. So I think for me, that's always kind of what I see happens. But it's one of those things, dude, the sooner that you can remove it, the sooner your life can be better. And the sooner, the better decisions you're going to make, the faster you're going to grow in your career and the more success you're going to have in your life overall. So that's kind of my standpoint on detachment.

Josh (24:29)
and the work section that I'm going to like overall. So that's kind of my statement on detachment. It's freaking spot on. Thanks, bro. I think it was important. I think another super power to touch on. Real quick before we move on from that. I think, and again, a really important thing with detachment is once you detach, collect information.

Dino Music (24:35)
Thank you, bro. I think yours was as well. I think another superpower to touch on

Josh (24:49)
Right. It's such a huge thing. Because detachment, yeah, like people can step out, they can start to learn to be more intentional about their emotions, because emotions are what make you weak in that situation. But you got to collect information.

Because if you don't collect information, then you're just, you're still only operating off of what you think and what you perceive to know. So collecting information is absolutely huge. And that's the whole idea of detachment. And the idea that you said with the movie, which is a great example is you have the bigger picture, right? That actor, that person in this, the action scene is not detached. They're only seeing down the barrel of their weapon, so to speak. But you can see the bigger picture. You're like, Hey dude, like don't go by that bush. That's a bad spot to go.

Dino Music (25:05)
proceed to know. So collecting information is absolutely huge. And that's the whole idea of detachment. The idea you said with the movie, which is a great example, is you have the bigger picture, right? That actor, that person in the action scene is not detached. They're only seeing down the barrel of their weapon, so to speak. So you can see the bigger picture. You're like, hey, don't go by that bush. That's a bad spot to go. Right, right. Don't run away from the killer, like, attack head on. So collecting information is actually huge. And one of the things I've seen is from entering people over the last three years, and honestly, six years.

Josh (25:25)
Right. Don't run away from the killer like a tag head on. So collecting information is absolutely huge. And one of the things I've seen just from mentoring people over the last three years and honestly six years is people aren't good at asking questions. So it's like learn to ask better questions.

Dino Music (25:35)
is people aren't good at asking questions. Dude, not, yeah. So it's like learn to ask better than one can ask. Would you consider that a superpower of itself? I mean, if not a superpower, it's skill, but I would absolutely dump that into a superpower category because the more questions you can ask, the more you can understand about that person if they know what they don't know. You can save a heck of a lot of time by not re -educating them. And then guess what? If I start educating you on something you already know, you're not listening and your ego goes up. sure. I got this, as an idiot, I already know that.

Josh (25:44)
I mean if not a superpower a skill but I would absolutely lump that into a superpower category because the more questions you can ask the more you can understand about that person what they know what they don't know you can save a heck of a lot of time by not re -educating them and then guess what when I'm if I start educating you on something you already know you're not listening and your ego goes up. God this guy's an idiot like I already know that right I know more than you about this and now they're not listening you can't make the impact you want to make.

Dino Music (26:04)
I have more to do about this and now they're not listening. You can't make impact on me. Thousand percent, bro. I love that one because oftentimes I think, I keep saying oftentimes today. I don't know what it is. It's one of those words, you know what I mean? I'm a philosopher today, I guess. I don't know. Periodically. Periodically. We're gonna start using fancy ass words just to sound a little bit more... Me pipes and ropes, yes. We need like a whole intro theme song, dude. Like a whole movie and everything. Dude, the reason I ask and I say...

Josh (26:14)
Periodically. We need pipes, we need pipes and robes for this. Especially.

Dino Music (26:34)
I would consider that a superpower, bro, because it's kind of like everything we've talked about in this episode, a lot of the ways you can uncover these things or help even yourself or other people is through questions. And when you ask questions, it just gives you a, it's like a flashing light at a different area you didn't know was there. You know what I mean? It's kind of like, again, dark room and you're like, damn, I can't see anything. I gotta find the door, right? But the more questions you ask, you're kind of going up and down the room and then you're like, there's a door, right? And.

Josh (26:43)
And the last question is just, it's like a flash in the light that you didn't know was there. You know what I mean? It's not like, again, dark room, I can't see anything, I gotta find the door. Right, but the more questions you ask, it kind of, you're just kind of going up and down. The room, you know, there's a door. Right, and that's where I think questions are a big piece to any of the topics that we've talked about ever, is asking yourself those questions.

Dino Music (26:59)
That's where I think questions are a big piece to any of the topics that we've talked about ever is asking yourself those questions. And when you do it, you start to really realize what you believe. And just because you might think that way now doesn't also mean you have to think that way. But you don't know unless you know. So when you ask yourself those questions, you're able to bring that to the surface. And when it's at the surface, then you can really dissect it. Right? And,

Josh (27:07)
And when you do it, start to realize what you believe. Just because you might think that way now, does also mean you have to think that way. But you don't know as you know. So when you ask yourself those questions, you're able to reflect on the surface and when they have to surface, then you can really dissect it. And this can happen within your career, it can happen within your life, it can happen within leadership. But when you ask the right questions, you're able to get the right answers. And when you get the right answers, you're able to take the step forward that you need to. So do not let that happen. You hit that pretty focus.

Dino Music (27:25)
You know this can happen dude within your career, it can happen within your life, it can happen with leadership, but when you ask the right questions you're able to get the right answers. And when you get the right answers you're able to take the step forward that you need to. So dude I love that and I think you hit that pretty fucking spot on dude.

Josh (27:37)
spot on. Yeah. everything with questions still throw in here is when you're asking other people questions, it shows that you care. Right. Because so often in people's lives, I mean, you think about a podcast TV, like everything they're being talked at. So when you stop down and ask questions, you're actually talking with someone. They know that you care and things that people want to talk about the most of themselves. They want to hear themselves talk. Right. So the more that you ask questions, the more they're going to give you, the more they give you, the more problems you're going to hear. The more problems you hear.

Dino Music (27:55)
The thing that people want to talk about the most of themselves, they want to hear themselves talk. Absolutely. Right? So the more that you ask questions, the more they're going to get you. The more they get you, the more problems you're going to hear. The more problems you hear, the more problems you can solve. And that trust holds up. I was going to, I want to hit on this a little bit because this is something that through a lot of just internal work myself, I kind of used to wonder, I was like, dude, why do I want to make other people happy? Why do I want to do this? Why don't, because I've always been a big people person and I've always cared for people.

Josh (28:04)
the more problems you can solve and that trust builds up.

Dino Music (28:23)
And dude, I even noticed this in myself where I used to make friends so easy. And when I think back to the conversations of how I would do it, dude, the amount of times I would actually talk about myself was 5 % of that 95 % of the conversation was about that. And I realized that and I was like, dude, it's not that I'm like, you're trying to make it about myself. It's when I didn't, that's when it became about me. And that's where I found like this biggest superpower of.

Josh (28:34)
And I realized that I was not over here trying to make it about myself. It's when I did it, that's when it became about me. And that's where I found this biggest superpower of just relationships to do, but also success in my life as far as my career and some people I've met. It's because every time I make it about them and I don't try to make it about myself. And to your point, it's like making it about them didn't initially come back to you because your intent is in the right spot.

Dino Music (28:49)
just relationships do, but also success in my life as far as like my career and some of the people that I've met. It's because every time I make it about them and I don't try to make it about myself. And to your point, it's like when you make it about them, it initially comes back to you because your intent is in the right spot. Right? But when you can care about the other person and truly care, like truly one will uncover, truly want to help, whether it be a leadership standpoint or a friendship standpoint, that is where you're going to solidify the best. I don't even call it just like loyalty, but the best friendship.

Josh (29:03)
Yeah. Right. But when you can grow up with another person and truly care, and truly want to recover, truly want to help, whether it be relationships or friendships at any point, that is where you can identify the best. I don't even call it the best friendship. The best care. And that's how you're going to get the most valuable relationship to the most out of your career. And that's always how I look at it.

Dino Music (29:18)
Right? The best care and the, that's how you're going to get the most out of your relationships and the most out of your career. You know, and that's always how I looked at things, you know, cause a lot of the times, again, we always want to make it about ourselves, but when you don't and you can be comfortable because you're okay with who you are, but life opens up big time, you know, and there's one thing I actually want to hit on with the detachment piece. you can see this and I've saw this happen to me with, with soccer. I relate a lot of things to soccer because that was like a big part of my life, but it's also taught me so much.

Josh (29:25)
You know, because a lot of times again, we always want to think about ourselves. But when you don't, and you can be comfortable because you're okay with who you are, for life, open up big time. You know, and there's one thing actually, when I hit on with the detachment piece, you can see this, and I saw this happen to me with soccer. I really did a lot of things with soccer because that was like a big part of my life. But it's also taught me so much. You know, and you mentioned it, right? Like, hey, my heart rate's going up in this conversation, or if it's like...

Dino Music (29:48)
You know, and, and, you even mentioned it, right? Like, Hey, my heart rate's going up during this conversation. Or if it's like, I'm trying to get a point across, it's like, okay, I'm not attached. In soccer, you can see this big time, right? Because when I get on the field, Hey, where's my heart? Is my heart pounding and nervous? What am I thinking? Is it about me? What? You know what I mean? You have all these things go through your mind and those times where I've had success has always been when I've removed my own ego from the situation. And what I mean by that is completely not thinking about myself and how well I perform.

Josh (29:53)
I'm trying to get a point across, I'm not in the park. In soccer, you can see the big time, right? Because when I get on the field, hey, where's my heart? Is my heart pounding? Am I nervous? What am I thinking? Is it about me? You know what I mean? You have all these things go through your mind. And the times where I've had that has always been when I've removed my own ego from the situation. And what I mean by that is completely not thinking about myself and how well I perform, but just looking at the overall picture. Hey, we're here to win. And every time I've done that, your Google testing makes a lot clearer. Right? And...

Dino Music (30:16)
but just looking at the overall picture of hey, we're here to win. And every time I've done that, you're able to see things a lot clearer, right? And fighters, MMA fighters, UFC is obviously such a big sport out in the world nowadays and it's only getting bigger. But try to put yourself in those guys' shoes. Like when you talk about real detachment, brother, like those guys have to detach, right? Because as soon as ego gets in the way, dude, that could be the end of you. All it takes is one punch, all it takes is one slip up. It's...

It's point two seconds of a difference in timing where it can cause you your entire career. Right. So you have to remove that emotion and just be in the present. And I don't know if you ever heard this, the flow state, right? But when you get into that flow state, I think the flow state flow state has a lot to do with being able to detach from your emotions and being able to see things clear and just, I don't want to say go with the flow, but be able to think clear and understand what decisions you need to make without having anything interrupted or make the wrong decision because you're so focused on yourself.

Josh (30:54)
state right but when you get to that post state I think the state has a lot to do with being able to detach from their emotions and being able to clear and just I don't want to say go with the flow but be able to be clear and understand what decisions you need to make without having anything interrupted or make the wrong decision because you're so focused on yourself I hope that makes sense but I just want to touch on that because if you ever need to realize that those guys are pretty simple because you have to at all times but when you do you're able to see a lot better.

Dino Music (31:14)
I hope that makes sense. But I just wanted to touch on that because if you ever need a real life example, those guys are the example because you have to at all times. But when you do, you're able to see things a lot better. So yeah, I would say that's when you're not you're fully in the present. Correct. Correct. That's like something that everybody can if you've ever had that happen. I wish I could just say it is a superpower because it's not.

Josh (31:23)
Yeah, and the flow state, that's when you're not thinking about the past or the future. You're fully in the present moment. Correct. Right? And that's like, honestly, it's something that everybody can, if you've ever had a Hapamano, I wish I could just harness that all the time. It's incredible. It is a superpower. It's not readily available at all times, unless you practice and get to a point where you can access it and it's still not perfect. But it is a beautiful state to me because it feels like everything makes sense. Yeah, it's wild. It is wild. All right. What do you think?

Dino Music (31:40)
It's not readily available at all times unless you practice and get to a point where you can access it and still not perfect. But it is a beautiful state to be in because it feels like everything makes sense. Yeah. Wow. It is wild. All right. what do you think outside of, yeah, you touched on a couple earlier on the discussion that I believe are human superpowers, right? We can kind of lump these together. Something I educate all the time, but you talked about like the action, right? Actually taking action. So the way you show up and the things you do.

Josh (31:53)
Well, yeah, you touched on a couple earlier on, like in the discussion that I believe are human superpowers, right? And we can kind of lump these together. It's something I educate on all the time, but you talked about like the action, right? Actually taking action. So the way you show up and the things you do, that is a superpower that only you can control, that that reaps huge benefits for your life. Right. And the way that I educate on this is like, look, you have two, two superpowers as a human being, and we're obviously tapping into more, but the it's the action that you take.

Dino Music (32:09)
That is a superpower that only you can control, that it reached huge benefits for your life. The way that I educate on this is like, well, you have two superpowers in the human being, or obviously it's happening more. But the action that you take, the choices that you make essentially in those moments, and then it's how you show up mentally and emotionally to a situation. For example, and we've talked about this, but human experience and situations have no meaning until you attach meaning to them.

Josh (32:22)
the choices that you make essentially in those moments, right? And then it's how you show up mentally and emotionally to a situation, right? For example, and we've talked about this, but like human experience and situations have no meaning until you attach a meaning to them. So what meaning are you attaching things? That's what I mean by the attitude or the emotion, right? Like if you get a flat tire, okay, does that ruin your day?

Dino Music (32:37)
So what meaning are you attaching to? That's what I mean by the attitude, the motion, right? Like if you get a flat tire, does that ruin your day? Because it doesn't have to. You can attach a totally different meaning to it. You can have a totally different attitude about it. Are you going to sit outside the room and cry or are you going to actually take action and go fix the problem? So, and I talk about this a lot with people's nutrition, right? It's like you've got to be in the moment, like what we're talking about, and you have to make the choices best for you because here's the deal, guys. And why this is super power, in my opinion, is that...

Josh (32:44)
Cause it doesn't have to, you can attach a totally different meaning to it. You can have a totally different attitude about it. Are you going to sit on the side of the road and cry? Are you going to actually take action and go fix the problem? So, and I talk about this a lot with people's nutrition, right? It's like, yeah, you got to be in the moment, like what we're talking about. And you have to make the choice that's best for you because here's the deal guys. And why this is superpower in my opinion is that only you get to make those two decisions. No one else can tell you how you can be influenced for sure. But no one else can choose for you how.

Dino Music (33:05)
Only you get to make those two decisions. No one else can tell you how you can be influenced for sure. But no one else can choose for you how to show up emotionally to a situation or how you do things. No one else can make you go to the gym and workout and make you eat food. Those are literally the only two choices that you have every single day that benefit you to create this from a sample of your physical transformation. Right? And guess what? When you're healthier and your physical transformation is being taken care of, you can actually control.

Josh (33:14)
you show up emotionally to a situation or how you view things. No one else can make you go to the gym and work out or make you eat food. Those are literally the only two choices that you have every single day that benefit you the greatest from a standpoint, your physical transformation, right? And guess what? When you're healthier and your physical transformation is being taken care of, you can actually control a lot of these emotional states a lot better because biophysically without getting into all the science, your body is in a better spot to handle those things. So action and attitude.

Dino Music (33:34)
these emotional states a lot better. You can vibe physically without getting into science. You can vibe in a better style. So you can handle those things. So, I can have it. Yeah. I think that's the best way to put it really. Like if you, everything we talked about, like there's multiple superpowers, but really the two as humans that we have that all fall into it is thinking and acting. Right? And it's like, at the end of the day, if you control those two things and know that you're in control of those two things, you can do whatever you want. You know, and I remember one thing we've talked about recently was you can't really control where you start.

Josh (33:43)
I think that's the best way to put it really like everything we talked about like there's multiple powers but really the two or two that we have that all fall into it is thinking and acting. Right? And it's like at the end of the day you can control those two things and know that you're in control of those two things. You can do whatever you want. You know and I remember we talked about recently with you can't really control where you start but you can control what you do. Right? It's like when you play a game. You know you can't control the cards that you're dealt with.

Dino Music (34:04)
but you can control what you do, right? It's like when you play a game, you know, you can't control the cards that you're dealt with. But how do you play those cards? Right? Cause you're still in control of that. And I think that's the most important piece, right? Cause a lot of the times I think we give power to other things instead of the power to ourselves. And food is a big one. Exercise is a big one. And we see it in our society now a lot of the time, right? Because it's, I can't do this because I've been this way or this way or this way or this way.

Josh (34:10)
Well, how do you play with this card? Because you're still in control of that. And I think that's the most important piece, right? Because a lot of the time, we give power to other things instead of the power to ourselves. And food is a big one. Exercise is a big one. And we see it in our society now a lot of the time. Because it's, I can't do this because I've been this way or this way or this way or this way. Bro, remove all that because you can't make a choice today. But now where I think a lot of people struggle with this is they think they need to make a big choice. And it's everything we've taught.

Dino Music (34:31)
Bro, remove all that because you can make a choice today. But now where I think a lot of people struggle with this is they think they need to make a big choice. And it's everything we talk about, bro. It's not big monumental jumps in one day. It's tiny little things that you do every single day to unlock these things. Right? Like even unlock the ability to make a choice. Because here's the truth, dude. I think a lot of people are stuck in the mindset of they don't think they can do that. And they believe that. And that's a tough spot to be in because when you do,

It's like an EKG, bro. If you don't, it's, you're out. So I think it's always important to remember you do have control. And even if you haven't moved once, if you just get up and take a step forward, that is a plus. And that's how you have to look at these things, right? It's a one plus. It's a plus one, plus one, plus one, plus one in every area of your life. And the more plus ones that you have at the end of the day, the more plus ones you have at the end of the week, year, the month, your life starts to change, you start to build habits, things start to go better. I mean, you can do a great example of this too.

Josh (35:03)
I think it's always a different remember you too have control and even if you have it move once and you just get up and take a step forward that is a better plus and that's how you have to look at it. It's a one plus, it's a plus one plus one plus one plus one in every area of your life. A little plus one is that you have it at the end of the day, a little plus one is you have it at the end of the week, year to the month, your life starts to clean, you start to build habits, things start to go better. I mean you're a great example of this because when you started to change your life from where you were,

Dino Music (35:29)
Right? It's like when you started to change your life from where you were, dude, it wasn't a one day journey. It wasn't even a one year journey. It was a long journey and it's still continuing to go. But every single moment that you take action and again, you're not perfect, but you're winning more days and you're losing. And the more days that you win, dude, it becomes this habit that you just have naturally now. Right? Because I bet if you talk to the Josh, you know, three years ago, you'd be like, holy fuck, I didn't know this was going to be me. You know? And again, it was just little thing at a little thing, little thing, little thing.

Josh (35:32)
It wasn't a journey, it was a long journey and it still continued to go. But every single moment that you take action, and again you're not perfect, but you're winning more than you're losing. And the more days that you win, it becomes this habit that you just have naturally now. Because I bet if you talked to the Josh, you'd have been like, fuck, I didn't know this was going to be me. And again, it was just a little thing, little thing, little thing. It's like a progress photo. You could take one on day one, and day 75, and you'll see a different footage.

Dino Music (35:56)
You know, it's like a progress level. You could take one on day one and day 75 and you'll see a difference. But if you don't take that one in 75, you won't ever see the difference. Right. But all it is a little bit of action and over time it will lead you to where you need to be. I agree. You can think on that. Think through like, you know, a general fight here, but it's understanding the past. The things that you made are now effectively your ability to make a decision now. You know, think about this. Like, all right, today, right now.

Josh (36:01)
Don't take that one in 75. You won't ever see the difference. But always a little bit of action over time. 100%. I agree. And even thinking on that, like thinking through like the nutrition part, you know, and I'll just make a general tie in here. But it's understanding too, that the past decisions that you made are now currently affecting your ability to make a decision now. And, you know, think about this, like, all right, today, right now, on this Saturday morning, I'm deciding that I want to eat healthy, right? Go home. House has cookies. House has...

Dino Music (36:25)
Saturday morning, I decided that I want to eat healthy, right? Go home. House has cookies, house has all these other things because the past choices that I made are now influencing the choices in the outcome that I have now. Right? So that becomes a choice. And where the action really kicks in there is like, all right, do I go get rid of all this food that I don't want and go replace it with food that I do want? Not to say you can't have cookies, right? You can. But this is the overall idea. We have better chances. The choices you've made in the past have gotten you to this point.

Josh (36:31)
all these other things because of the past choices that I made are now influencing the choices than the options that I have now. Right. So that becomes a choice. And where the action really kicks in there is like, all right, do I go get rid of all this food that I don't want and go replace it with food that I do want? Not to say you can't have cookies, right? You can, but this, the overall idea there is that you have to understand that the choices you've made in the past have gotten you to this point, good or bad, intentional or not intentional. And you have the superpower.

Dino Music (36:55)
Good or bad, intentional or not intentional. If you have the super power, right at this very second, start making better choices. And one of the things I always, it's funny, I'll actually say it out loud, like I'll thank Pastor Josh. I'm like, I love that. I love that. I love that. I did it this week. I'm like, current Josh, that's Josh for setting future Josh up for this. It's like, I'll say it in my head, but it's like, you know, like one day I like, I forget what it even was recently that happened, but it was one of those moments where I was like, dang.

Josh (36:59)
right? That's very second to start making better choices. And one of the things I always, it's funny, cause I'll actually say it out loud. Like I'll thank past Josh. I'm like, it's funny. I did it this week. I'm like, current Josh, thanks past Josh for setting future Josh up for this. Right. And it's just like a joke that I'll say in my head, but it's like, you know, like one day I like forget what it even was.

recently that happened, but it was one of those moments where I was like, dang, it's almost like another example you can give is like, I every winter when I put away my coats, I'll put five or $10 bills in them just cause it's fun. I'll forget. And then when I put them on in the winter time next, I go, damn, there's a $5 bill in there. Right. So it's just, yeah, that's cool. it's little moments of joy guys, plan these things be intentional, but, to that point, it's like all the decisions you've made led you to here. Right. And you have to understand cause a lot of people I think get that.

Dino Music (37:25)
It's almost like another degree. It's like every winter when I put away my coats, I'll put five or $10 bills in them. I love that. I put them on in the winter time next. I go to my left. Right. So it's a little movement security guys, plan these things. I love that. to that point, cause like all the decisions you've made led you to here. Right. And you have to understand that a lot of people, I think that for sure, but you have to understand that those.

Josh (37:50)
Right. But you have to understand that those decisions are also influencing your ability and scope to make a decision right now. So how do you work on that? Okay. You'd be more intentional. You understand that, but also you can do that from a mental standpoint. Start reading books. You're obviously listening to great podcasts, right? Wink, wink. So, but put good things in and that will open up your ability to make better decisions down the line. You just got to trust that. I want to hit on something because the way you just talked about, you know, thinking yourself in the past,

Dino Music (37:52)
Decisions are also influencing your ability and scope to make a decision right now. So how do you work on that? Can you be more intentional? Don't understand that, but also you can do that from a mental standpoint. You can start reading books. You're obviously listening to great podcasts, right? So, but put good things in and that will open up your ability to make better decisions online. You just gotta trust that. I want to hit on something too with this because the way you just talked about, you know, thanking yourself in the past.

Josh (38:19)
even if you made every possibly wrong distinction up until this point, dude, it is all fucking hate, you know what I mean? I wanna highlight that because I think that's what stops us too, right? Because, and even guess what, even if you made all the wrong distinctions, you have to understand that the time, just like Josh back in the day was doing things for Josh in the future, even if it was bad, the coping mechanisms, whatever it got you to this point.

Dino Music (38:19)
Even if you've made every possibly wrong decision up until this point, dude, it is all fucking K. You know what I mean? And I want to highlight that because I think that's what stops us to right. Because and even guess what? Even if you've made all the wrong decisions, you have to understand at the time, just like Josh back in the day was doing things for Josh in the future. Even if it was bad, the coping mechanisms, whatever it got you to this point.

You know what I mean? Like, dude, we all have shit that happened to us back in our lives, okay? But you got to go back in the past, man. You got to thank yourself for finding a way to get through it at the time that you did. Because when you're 15, 16, 7, 20, like, bro, you don't know what the fuck to do. You don't know what's going on. And you have to give yourself grace for what you did at that time, even if it wasn't leading you to the best spot. Because at the end of the day, you can't control those things. But again, without that, where could you have been?

Josh (38:46)
You know what I mean? Like dude, don't have shit that happened to us back in our lives, okay? But you got to go back in the past, man. You got to end yourself for finding a way to get through it at the time that you did it. Because when you're 15, 16, 17, 20, like, well, you don't know what the fuck to do. You don't know what's going on. And you have to get yourself graced for what you did at that time. Even if it wasn't leading you to the best spot. Because at the end of the day, you can control those things. You might end without that real collision with them. You know what I mean?

Dino Music (39:14)
You know, we could be like, well, yeah, if I made the right decision, but you didn't have that type of influence at the time. You didn't have those people. And that is okay. So you figured it out the way you had to, but now you're in control still. Hey, you might not like the person you are now, but thank that person who got you here because now you're in still control, right? Like you were in control still. So take control of your life going forward, but don't beat yourself up over what you've done. Even if it hasn't been anywhere near good. Like I said, even if you make every single wrong decision possible, it is okay.

Josh (39:16)
You didn't have that type of influence at that time. You didn't have those people and that is okay. So you figured it out when you had to. But now you're in control still. Hey, you might not like the person you are now, but that person you got to hear because now you're in still control, right? Like you were in control still. So take control of your life, don't worry, but don't beat yourself up over it. Even if it hasn't been in your control. Like I said, you would never say, how long is this possible? It is okay. And I think we need to hear that.

Dino Music (39:44)
And I think we need to hear that sometimes. But with me saying that doesn't mean give yourself an excuse to not do anything moving forward. Right? Is it still going to be fucking hard to do stuff? Yes, absolutely. You can give yourself grace, but it doesn't make it easy moving forward. But when you give yourself grace, you allow yourself to change your identity and stop carrying on the person that you were to who you want to be because it's two completely different people. And it's, I mean, we've seen examples of this all the time, but.

Josh (39:46)
Yeah.

Dino Music (40:13)
We don't see the example within ourselves because it's easy for us to look at ourselves and be like, we're not capable. Well, that guy is special. I promise you we're all as special as any person in this fucking world. Like if there was a person out there that figured out how to fly, I promise you, you can fly. You know what I mean? And that's always how I look at life, man. You know, because there's so much potential to it. And oftentimes we kill that potential because we're so focused on all the things we did wrong. And it is okay. We all have our own vices, right? But.

Josh (40:13)
We don't see the example within ourselves because it's easy for us to look at ourselves and be like, we're not, well, that guy is special. I promise you we're all as special as any person in this fucking world. Like if there was a fucking out there that didn't know how to fly, I promise you, you can fly. You know what I mean? And that's always how I looked at life, you know, because there's so much potential to it. And oftentimes we feel that potential because we're so focused on all the things we did wrong. And it is okay. We all have our own biases, right? But learn.

Dino Music (40:42)
Learn to accept that and learn to move on and not identify yourself as those things. And that's something I just wanted to hit on man because even you saying just that thank you piece, I don't think people realize how important that is, even if it is the bad stuff, right? Because at the time of your body, your brain, you went to figure it out just to get you by and you got by, you're here, you're realizing, you're aware. So take control of that awareness now and fix your life and move forward. So that's just one thing I wanted to hit on man because I think oftentimes, again,

Josh (40:43)
accept that and learn to move on and not identify yourself as those things. And that's something I just wanted to hit on then because even you saying just that thank you piece, I don't think people realize how important that is, even if it is the bad stuff, right? Because at the time of your body, your brain, you went to figure it out, you got your body, you got your mind, you're here, you're realizing you're aware. So take control of that awareness now, please. So that's just one thing I wanted to hit on then because I think oftentimes, again, I'm saying oftentimes, right?

Dino Music (41:11)
You saying oftentimes, right? but dude, we just beat ourselves up. You know, we don't see that we're valuable. and this is coming from a guy who, I mean, dude, I didn't have anything growing up, right? You, I mean, dude, your story too, bro. Like the fact that you got to where you got to, it doesn't make sense on paper. It doesn't make sense, but that's the thing. Fuck the paper dog. You can create that paper. You can create your own story. You can create whatever you want. So remember that and move past all the bullshit in your life and the before and thank yourself for it.

Josh (41:13)
We don't see that we're valued. And this is coming from a guy who... I mean dude, I didn't have anything on that. I mean dude, your story too. Like, the fact that you got to where you got to doesn't make sense. On paper, it doesn't make sense. But that's the thing about the paper, dawg. You can create that paper, you can create your own story, you can create whatever you want. So remember that and move past all the bullshit in your life and look for it and thank yourself for it and take control of life and move forward.

Dino Music (41:40)
and then take control of life and move forward. Yeah, I mean there's variables in every decision making process and the very, the fact that you understand that the variables that you decided back then that led, like that were creating those circumstances, they're not the same variables you have to have your mindset, your emotion, your intent, all the things that we're talking about, all these superpowers. That actually reminds me of something you said that reminds me of a quote that I heard a long time ago that I think about a lot. We tend to judge ourselves on our intent and other people and their actions.

Josh (41:41)
Yeah, I mean, there's variables that play in every decision making process. And the very, you just have to understand that the variables that you decided back then that led like that we're creating those circumstances. They're not the same variables you have now, your mindset, your emotion, your intent, all the things that we're talking about, like superpowers. it actually reminds me of something you said that reminds me of a quote that I heard a long time ago that I think about a lot. We tend to judge ourselves on our intent and other people in their actions.

Right? So it's like, we're looking, we're looking at other people and we're like, man, they got it made like, or even from a bad standpoint, we do the same thing. It's like, I'm a better person because it's like, well, did you actually do something or are you just judging yourself on your intent? Right? And it's a true, if you start thinking about it. Yeah. It's pretty wild. Yeah. I don't remember where I heard that, but it's been 15, 20 years. If you look at it, it opens up the mind to a lot of different reasons why we are where we are.

Dino Music (42:08)
Right? So it's like, we're looking at other people and we're like, man, they got me like, even from a bad standpoint, we do the same thing. It's like, I'm better person because it's like, well, did you actually do something or did you just judge yourself on your own? Right? And it's a true, I've never heard that quote. Yeah. I don't remember why I heard that, but it's been 15, 20 years. That makes so much sense though. If you look at just that quote alone, I think it opens up the mind to a lot of different reasons why we are where we are.

Josh (42:37)
You know, and it's crazy. And we hear this all the time. And I think about kids, you know, it's like they do something wrong. It's like, do you get mad at them right away? Most likely some people do, but you shouldn't because it's like, you're not trying to mess up, you're not trying to do this. We judge people based on the action and not the men. And I think if you were to remove that, you would be able to understand people a little bit more and actually love someone else. Yeah. Right.

Dino Music (42:37)
You know, and it's crazy because and we hear this all the time, man. Like I think about like kids, you know, it's like if they do something wrong, it's like, do you get mad at them right away? Most likely some people do, but you shouldn't because it's like, what the kids do, they're not trying to mess up. They're not trying to do this, right? But we judge people based on the action and not the intent. And I think if you were to remove that piece, you will be able to understand people a little bit more and actually help someone out. Right. It's my most valuable lesson.

Josh (43:06)
It's one of the most valuable lessons I've learned as a leader is assume positive intent. Absolutely. You know, and I've implemented that with my kids so much because again, as a parent, like you can be in that emotional situation of like, dude, why don't they just get this 20th time I've told them, right? But you have to assume positive intent because very few people in life are ever going to do something wrong intentionally or derail something intentionally, right? And the people that do, you know who they are and you avoid those people, right? But most people, workplace, spouse, child, friend, coworker, whatever it is, is like,

there's something missing, which is why they made the decision there. Maybe they didn't understand what you wanted to happen or your intent on the situation, or maybe they think they're executing flawlessly, but it's like you're judging them again on their actions and your intent. So assume positive intent and ask questions. You know, it's the easiest way to get somebody on the same level because you'll understand number one, it's like, all right, well, they didn't understand this, which means I didn't explain it properly. And it gives you an ownership ability and the ability to be better. It's like, all right, well, if I explained it,

Dino Music (43:36)
which is why they made the decision. They didn't understand what you wanted to happen or had your intent on this situation. I was percent, or maybe they think they're actually doing it flawlessly, but it's like you're judging them again on their actions and your intent. So assume positive intent and ask questions. You know, it's the easiest way to get somebody on the same level because you'll understand number one. It's like, all right, well, they didn't understand this, which means that I didn't explain it properly. It gives you an ownership ability and the ability to be better. I was like, all right, well, if I explained it.

Josh (44:03)
and that person doesn't understand and other people probably don't understand. So how can I get better at explaining that? Absolutely. It's almost like you can just think about it. It's like, would you want someone to assume you're in pain? Never. Especially in a negative way. But we do it all the time. And we assume it based off our current situation. But it's like, hey, what did you make of this drink? Did you drink water? I'm like, what the hell? Why is Josh doing that? Why would you drink more caffeine?

Dino Music (44:04)
and that person doesn't understand and other people probably don't understand. So how can I get better at explaining that? Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. It's almost like, dude, even just thinking about it, it's like, would you want someone to assume your intent? Yeah. Never, right? Especially in a negative way. Yeah. But we do it all the time. Yeah. You know, and we assume it based off our current situation. But it's like, hey, let's say you make the decision to drink an energy drink and I make a decision to drink water. And I'm like, what the hell? Why is Josh doing that? Like, why would you drink two more caffeine, dude?

Josh (44:33)
Yeah. But what are your goals? I need that doctor. We're going to need to bump those migs up a little bit. Roger that doc. dude, it's funny. Dr. Chad Kirkcik told us what the the efficacious does. No, it's like an equation. So he gave us an equation and I forget it. So don't this is not a scientific order recommendation.

Dino Music (44:34)
But what are your goals, bro? I don't know. What is your mission? Maybe your doctor was like, hey dude, I think you actually need it. You know what I mean? I need that guy. Yeah, me too, bro. I want to find that guy. The recommended dose actually increased for you, Josh. Well, dude, it's funny. 400. No, it's an equation. so he gave us an equation and I forget it. So, this is not a scientific recommendation.

Josh (45:00)
But he gave us an equation based off kilograms body weight and like J. Algeer's pre -workout caffeine, pure caffeine, not like other stuff, pre -workout, whatever, was like 670 mgs. Yeah. As like an efficacious dose. Yeah. I was like, dang. All right. Yeah. But yeah, the thing about it, and again, I want to clarify this because there's people listening that does not mean go take three scoops of pre -workout because there are other things in there besides pure caffeine.

Dino Music (45:00)
that gave us an equation based off of kilograms of body weight and like JL Gears, me workout, pure capping, not like other stuff, pre -workout, whatever, was like 670. No way. Yeah. As like an efficacious dose. Wow. Yeah. I was like dang. All right. All right. We're good. That makes you feel like that. And again, I want to clarify this because if people listening that does not mean go take three soups of pre -workout because there are other things in there besides pure capping. Correct. Correct. There are different versions of capping. So that is just us bantering.

Josh (45:26)
And there are different versions of caffeine. So that is just us bantering, not medical advice.

Dino Music (45:30)
Yes, please do not take any any other recommendations or anything we heard out there as recommendations, please. But dude, that's it. But honestly, it's like, yeah, I would love to have that doctor first off. But dude, that's one of those things, again, we assume, you know, we don't take the time to like just ask and think, you know, it's like you'd be so surprised by how much you can understand and uncovered by just asking and not putting an assumption on things. Right. I do my favorite quote of all time that.

Josh (45:55)
assumption on things. Right? I do my favorite quote all the time. It was in like, no, not six years ago, like, more than eight. but when he was two, he made an ass out of it. Now, it's worth very much different in my time also, you know, and it's not as PC as things are now, right? but it was around that time, I was like, are not that awesome, right? He does make an ass out of both. So just take the time to think whether again, it's a relationship or people or whatever, or what?

Dino Music (45:59)
I think it was in like six, no, not sixth grade. It was like fourth, maybe. But when you assume you make an ass out of you and me. Now, fourth grade was different at my time also, you know, and not as PC as things are now, right? So, but it was around that time. And I just like thought about that. I was like, that makes so much sense, right? It does make an ass out of both you and me when you assume. And it's like, so just take the time to think whether again, it's with relationship or people or whatever, or what you just internal take time to understand where you're at, right? And don't assume things. And,

Josh (46:25)
Take time to understand it. Yeah, and I want to also throw it out there because anytime you hear questions people think of like what why when how a really good question asked to uncover somebody's intent and to while you're assuming positive intent and also it's a good question asked what to be able to learn Is hey, hey, could you please help me understand your thought process with this with X fill it in the blank? Hey, you know, can you help me understand the thought process behind why you grabbed water today and not an energy drink?

Dino Music (46:29)
I want to also throw it out there because anytime you hear questions people think of like why, when, how. A really good question to ask will uncover somebody's intent. While you're assuming that, also it's a good question to ask to be able to learn. Say, hey, could you please help me understand your thought process with this, with X filled in the blank? Can you help me understand the thought process behind why you grabbed water today and not drink? Because I might be judging you based on the idea why this guy is cool with drinking and everything like me.

Josh (46:52)
Right? Because I might be judging Dino based on the fact that I do. Why isn't this guy cool and drinking an energy drink like me? But, and these are, that's a silly example, but little do I know that he already had two energy drinks this morning because he's been up grinding since 3 a You know what I'm saying? So it's like, hey, help me understand your thought process. And the cool thing about it is when I started asking that question, my thought process became better because again,

Dino Music (46:57)
100%. And these are the, that's a silly example. It's not though. He already had two energy drinks this morning because he's been up driving since 3 a Thousand percent, you know what I'm saying? Thousand percent. So it's like, hey, help me understand this thought process. And the cool thing about it is when I started asking that question, my thought process became better. Because again, I would be having a huge ego to understand that my thought process is the only one. So I've been able to learn from leaders, from support units, from my freaking kids when I'm like, hey, what's your thought process behind this?

Josh (47:14)
I would be having a huge ego to understand that my thought process is the only is the only one. So I've been able to learn from leaders, from subordinates, from my freaking kids when I'm like, hey, what's your thought process behind this? Right? Like example, my daughter had a bowl in a room. It broke. My wife freaked out last weekend and just destroyed a room, put it all back together, got rid of everything because she's 12. She's got a messy room. So there's a bowl broken in there. And I was like, hey, you know, your mom cleaned your room up. She doesn't.

Dino Music (47:26)
Right? Example, my daughter had a bulb that broke. My wife freed that last weekend and destroyed a room, put it all back together, got rid of everything because she's 12, she's got a messy room. So there's a bulb broken. And I was like, yeah, you know, your mom cleared her room up. She doesn't want dishes in here anymore. She doesn't understand why that bulb is down there and what is the process behind leaving it there. And she's like, well, I didn't move it home. I didn't want to carry it up to the kitchen and have her here and put it in the trash and get upset with it. So I plan on doing it when she has to show up in bed.

Josh (47:41)
want dishes in here anymore. Can you help me understand why that bowl is down there and what your thought process behind leaving it there is? And she's like, well, I didn't mom's home and I didn't want to carry out to the kitchen here, have her hear me put it in the trash and then get up to that with me. So I plan on doing it when she after she went to bed. I'm like, okay. A, you're sneaky and smart. So I commend you on that. B, it helped me understand where her head was at. I would have been easy for me to assume that she's just being a lazy 12 year old. But now I understand why she's doing it. I'm like, damn, she's actually smarter than I thought she was.

Dino Music (47:55)
I'm like, okay, hey, you're sneaky and smart. I'm enjoying that. It would have been easier for me if she was a 12 year old. But now I understand why she's different. I mean, she's actually smarter than I thought she was. Dude, but you know what's crazy about that moment? That moment can be the difference of your guys' relationship forever. And I know it sounds crazy, but like, dude, if you assumed in that moment, like imagine what she would think. Well, dude, my dad doesn't even, he doesn't take time to think, you know, he doesn't care about me.

Josh (48:13)
Yeah, exactly.

Dino Music (48:25)
And it's crazy the fact that you just asked that question and you uncovered that. Because I bet that kind of calmed you down. You're like, okay. Even though she still didn't do it, it's like, it makes sense for the thought process. You don't want to get her mom, you know, she don't want to be mad. You know, she was trying to do the right thing, but she was also being, you know what I mean? It helps so much. And for her, she's like, that took the time to understand. Yeah. And then I got to spin that off into a lesson. Hey, what did we talk about with voting things? Responsibility. I got the teacher that, you know, so I mean, it's, it's literally everything that we.

Josh (48:43)
And then I got to spin that off into a lesson. I'm like, Hey, what did we talk about with, with owning things and responsibility, right? I got the teacher that, you know, so I mean, it's, it's literally everything that we do is just detach a little bit and ask questions, right? Try to understand it. It's soon positive attempt, but with the question things guys, it's genuine curiosity. It's like, and I want to, I want to get inside that brain a little bit. How do you think, why are you thinking that way? yeah. So I'm intact in delivery.

Dino Music (48:55)
is this detach a little bit and ask questions, right? Try to understand it. Assume positive time, but with the question things guys, it's genuinely curiosity. I want to get inside that brain a little bit. That was what you were saying. Cause there is also a tune to how you ask, right? Cause even that question after you ask it, even just saying something like, dude, I just want, I just want to understand. Saying that instead of like just leaving it there and having like this angry face or something like that, like dude, that also plays a big role in it. But if you're like, Hey, help me understand this because...

Josh (49:13)
you ask me, you can just stand in front of them like, you guys don't understand. Standing down instead of like, just being there and having like this face or something, that also gives a big moment. But if you're like, hey, help me, hey, I'm not too sure, I just want to get your thoughts, because I'm not seeing it maybe the way you are, can you just help me? Yeah, definitely. To see that, that's like, okay, here's the truth. And so I do want people to be honest with you, in your life, and just tell you what's actually going on, if you have any questions.

Dino Music (49:24)
Hey, I'm not too sure, I just wanna get your thoughts, because I'm not seeing it maybe the way you are. Can you just help me understand that? That's all. You say that, that's like, okay, here, here's the truth. Right? And it's like, dude, if you want people to be honest with you, or in your life even, to just tell you what's actually going on, it's the type of questions you ask. And I think this also ties a little bit into empathy too. Right? Because I know we didn't touch on this too much, but I would consider that a little bit of a superpower as well. Right? Because when you're empathetic and able to understand and kind of give people that little bit of like, hey, let me...

Josh (49:41)
And I think this also has to go back to that too. Right? Because I know we didn't touch on this too much, but I would consider that a little bit of a superpower as well. Big time. Right? Because when you're empathetic and able to understand and kind of give that little bit of like, hey, what do you mean? Let me try to understand them. Your relationships go better, the less you jump to them, right? Less assumptions and more clear understanding of people, but also how to help them and support. And I think empathy alone is a skill because empathy you have to know when you're -

Dino Music (49:54)
Let me try to understand them. Your relationships go better. The less you jump to conclusions, right? Less assumptions and more clear understanding of people, but also how to help them then move forward. and I think empathy alone is a skill because empathy, you have to know when you're going too far and not enough, right? And there's a balance piece and the balance isn't necessarily a one line. It's kind of like up and down, depending on the situation. But with empathy alone, I think that is a superpower because again, you have to be able to understand when you need to use it.

Josh (50:10)
And there's a balance. The balance isn't necessarily a whole lot. It's kind of like, that's not only a problem with the situation. But empathy alone, I think that is a superpower because it can cross people up and when you use it more than other times, then you can kind of push it down. I hope that makes sense. It's not just like a whole empathy thing. It's like, hey, being able to kind of look at any situation differently and understand that, hey, sometimes it's much more than not knowing. But that is a superpower.

Dino Music (50:24)
more than other times and when you have to kind of push it down. Yeah, I hope that makes sense, right? But it's not just like, empathy to everything. It's like, hey, being able to kind of look at each situation a little bit differently and understand that, hey, sometimes it's too much, sometimes it's not enough, but that is a superpower of its own. Yeah, I agree with that. What I think about empathy being a superpower, I think about it from a standpoint, you can create anything, but you feel emotional, right? So, I think about this, and just so you guys understand.

Josh (50:39)
Yeah, I agree with that. Where I think about empathy being a superpower, I think about it from a standpoint of creating an even playing field emotionally. Right? So the way I think about this is like, I, and just so you guys understand the difference between sympathy and empathy is a empathy is like, Hey, I've lived through this. Like I've been where you're at. Let me, let me get on your level and let you know that I'm here for you. And I understand.

Dino Music (50:53)
the difference between sympathy and empathy is empathy is like hey I can do this where you're at, let me get on your level and then I'm here for you. Sympathy is like hey I actually do that but I do a few for you. So empathy being a superpower in my mind is in a situation of maybe it's like a death situation. Somebody loses their mom, I can empathize with that because I've lost my mom. I lost a lot of people there.

Josh (51:03)
Sympathy is like, hey, I've never actually experienced that, but I do. I feel, I feel for you. Right. So,

Empathy being a superpower in my mind is in a situation of maybe it's like a death situation, right? You know, somebody loses their mom. Cool. I can, I can empathize with that because I've lost my mom. I've lost a lot of people there. But what that does is when somebody is in that emotional state, okay, they're very, very low emotionally. So if I were to just come in there and start talking to them and trying to solve a problem for them and give them the logic of the situation, they're going to be like, all right, you're above me and they're going to go even lower, right? But what empathy does from a superpower standpoint,

Dino Music (51:21)
But what that does is when somebody is in that emotional state, okay, they're very, very low emotionally. So if I were to just come in there and start talking to them and trying to solve a problem for them and give them a lock in the situation, they're going to be like, you're above me and they're going to go even lower. Right? But what empathy does is it puts you on their level emotionally and allows you to connect on that emotional level, that energy level and it allows you to have them open up.

Josh (51:39)
It puts you on their level emotionally and allows you to connect on that emotional level with that energy level and it allows you to have them open up so that you can let them know truly let them know and let them feel that hey like I'm here I care you know what I mean so it's a shared human experience is really what it is and you share that vibrational frequency.

Dino Music (51:47)
So that you can let them know, truly let them know and let them feel that, hey, I'm here, I care. You know what I mean? So it's a shared human experience is really what it is. And you share that vibrational frequency. And I think it also allows you to bring that person back up to that level. 100%. Because now you don't have that detached situation happening. Not to use that with detachment, because we're talking about that. But yeah, absolutely. If you go down there and get them, and it's a positive emotional situation, even in a bad situation.

Josh (52:00)
100 % because now you now you don't have that detached situation happening. Not to confuse that with detachment because we've been talking about that. But yeah, absolutely. If you go down there and get them and it's a positive emotional situation, even in a bad situation, now you can you can influence them to start thinking a little bit differently.

Dino Music (52:13)
Now you can influence them to start thinking a little bit differently. Actually, there's a story you told in the last school night that we did about the guy who lost his dad, I believe it was, and he went to the baseball game. Okay? I'm sure his friends had a situation where they were empathetic, or at least sympathetic, and that allowed them to come up. It says, hey, I'm here for you, can you open your door and let me in a little bit? Because I've been where you're at, I know exactly what you're experiencing, and now because you're empathetic, they're open to your advice, and they're seeking you out for answers as opposed to sympathy. Like, hey, you don't know where I've been.

Josh (52:18)
It's the story you told in the last pool link that we did about the guy who lost his dad, I believe it was, and he went to the baseball game. Okay. I'm sure his friends in that situation were empathetic or at least sympathetic. And that allowed them to come up. It's just, Hey, I'm here for you. Can you open your door and let me in a little bit? Cause I've been where you're at. I know exactly what you're experiencing. And now because you're empathetic, they're open to your advice and they're seeking you out for answers as opposed to sympathy is like, Hey, you don't know where I've been. Or even if you just attack that from a purely logical standpoint.

Dino Music (52:41)
Or even if you just attack that from a purely likable standpoint. 100%. It's almost with sympathy in particular, I think it also, people struggle with this and I struggle with this because I never want someone to look at me differently. I never want someone to look at me like I'm lesser or anything of that nature. Right? But empathy allows us to be together instead of like, you're like, man, I'm so sorry for you. I feel so bad. It's like, no, no, no, no, no. You're like, show them that it's okay and they're going to get through this and they have someone there.

Josh (52:47)
in particular, I think it also, people struggle with this, I struggle with this because I never want someone to look at me differently. I never want someone to look at me like I'm left -handed or anything of that nature. Right? But empathy allows us to think together and sometimes I feel like, man, I feel sorry for you, I feel so bad. It's like, no, no, no, no, no. Show them that it's okay, that they're gonna get through this and they have a coming through. Not just, I feel bad for you, I feel bad for you, I feel bad for you. Because like, me personally, and this could be different.

Dino Music (53:11)
not just, I feel bad for you. I feel bad for you. I feel bad for you. Cause like me personally, and this could be different for other people, but for me personally, I never want that someone to just feel bad for me. You know, because I'm like, dude, I don't want you to look at me differently. I don't want to be differently or I don't want to be different. I want you, I just want people that care, be in my corner, be there for me and help me through this. That's what I want. Don't feel sorry for me. Hey, help me be more positive. Right? So like for me, I think empathy is a, is a big key and it's a such a big difference in.

Josh (53:17)
But for me personally, I don't want that. I just want people to care, be in my corner, be there, or be healthy. That's what I want. Don't feel sorry for me. Hey, help me be more positive. So for me, I think empathy is a big key, and it's such a big difference. Situations might be the same, but which way you approach it is a theory.

Dino Music (53:39)
Situations might be the same, but which way you approach it, sympathy or empathy, is the difference of, again, that person getting through it and also opening the door for yourself in that relationship. Yeah. So I think about that as like, you are a pretty kind of hope for that person when you become unfaithful. Thousand percent. Because like, going back to the death thing, it's like, hey, if I had somebody that lost their mom this week and I go empathize with them, they can think, all right, well, I'm in this dark place right now, but I can see where he's at in his life. Overall, I can see that he's moved past it.

Josh (53:43)
Yeah, I think about that as you are a projection of hope for that person when you become empathetic Going back to the death thing. So hey if I had somebody that lost their mom this week and I go empathize with them They they can think in their head like alright. Well, I'm in this dark place right now But I can see where he's at in his life overall and I can see that he's moved past it

That gives me hope to be able to do the same. And because that door is open, now you can start guiding them down that path. It builds that trust immediately.

Dino Music (54:09)
That gives me hope to be able to do the same. And because that door is open now, you can start guiding them down that path. It builds that trust immediately. It opens a potential of like, Hey, you're going to be okay. Because in that moment, it doesn't feel that way. So that empathy is huge. And I would even tie that to the intentional situation that we've been having. And detachment, all of this, honestly, is like, if you're in an argument with your spouse, have some empathy. Like what is it like, put yourself in their shoes again, it's that detachment and being intentional in the situation. But where's the empathy at in those discussions?

Josh (54:20)
Yeah. So that empty. And I would even tie that into the intentional situation that we've been having is like in detachment. All of this, honestly, is like if you're in an argument with your spouse, have some empathy. Like what is like put yourself in their shoes again, it's that detachment and being intentional in the situation. But where's the empathy at in those discussions? If you can bring empathy to that situation, guess what? Now the whole thing diffuses itself. Detaching allows you to choose and know which emotions to take up what time to.

Dino Music (54:39)
If you can bring that situation, guess what? Now the whole thing diffuses itself. That was percent detaching allows you to choose and know which emotion to pick at what time to help that situation. And I think that's how we should probably end this. Right. Cause it, again, we talked about detaching, we talked about all these things, but again, detaching is not, yes, it's removing emotion, but it's to be able to understand what emotion you need or what you need to do. So that's kind of, I think that's a, I think that's a hit dog.

Josh (54:49)
help that situation. And I think that's how we should probably talk about all these things. But again, detachment is not, yes, it's a moving emotion, but it's people's understanding what emotion you need or what you can do. So that's kind of, I think that's a, that's a great wrap. Yeah, that was a lot there guys. So quick, hot, hit an episode about it here and do a little bit of work. But I want to leave your brain with something to think about. I put this in my Instagram stories this weekend. It was a, it was a big,

Dino Music (55:08)
Yeah, that was a lot there, guys. Quick high hit and I gotta jump out again and do a little bit of work. But I want to leave your name or something about it, but this is my considerate story this weekend. It was a big conversation and maybe a little bit of a philosophical question. When it comes to these different hours, when it comes to the actions, when it comes to all these different things, I want you to think about over the last two weeks, if you for the rest of your life moving forward from today.

Josh (55:19)
conversation and made people think. So a little bit of a philosophical question. When it comes to these different superpowers, when it comes to the actions, when it comes to all these different things, I want you to think about over the last two weeks, right? If you for the rest of your life moving forward from today, were forced to lock in and repeat, put on repeat actions, the emotions of the last two weeks, would you be happy with your life if they had to be locked in for the rest of it? Yes.

Dino Music (55:35)
were forced to lock in and repeat, put on repeat the actions, the emotions of the last two weeks, would you be happy with your life if they had to be locked in for the rest of it? That's such a good question. Because I had people in my D actor like, man, I don't think I'd be happy. Cool, guess what? You have the ability to change that right now. Yep. Every single decision matters. It's not going to happen by accident. Love that, bro. That's intentional at its finest. I love that question. Dude, that's beautiful.

Josh (55:48)
Cause I had people in my DMs, they're like, man, I don't, I don't think I'd be happy. Cool. Well, guess what? You have the ability to change that right now. Every single decision matters. It's not going to happen back. That's intentional at its finest. All right. So guys, we appreciate you again. If you found any value on this, you loved it. Share it, please. we want more people to hear this message and get into that process of becoming the best self, their best self. And as always,

Dino Music (56:04)
Alright, so guys we appreciate you again for your value on this. Love that you share it please. We want more people to get into that process and become their best selves. And as always guys, if you need anything at all, we're always here for you. I do believe there is a question form in our bio as well as in our Instagram handle as well I think, or on our Instagram. So thank you guys as always, it's a pleasure. If you guys need anything, we're always here. We love y 'all and peace!

Josh (56:18)
there is a question form in our bio and what was in our Instagram handle as well. We're on our Instagram. So thank you guys as always. It's a pleasure if you guys need anything. We love y 'all. Peace.