Jesse Kove - Flip Phones & Peptides

Welcome to the Tracksuit Podcast! 

Hosts James Cullen Bressack and BJ Hendricks kick off episode one with actor Jesse Kove - son of Karate Kid legend Martin Kove - who showed up late, sans tracksuit, and immediately made himself at home. They cover Jesse's career in action films, working alongside Jon Voight and Kelsey Grammer in The Last Firefighter, his playable character in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, the upcoming Boris Is Dead, peptide therapy, men's health, ditching his smartphone for a flip phone, and his work with Wings of Rescue - flying hundreds of dogs to no-kill shelters across the country.

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Host

BJ Hendricks

Actor and producer with deep roots in the business. BJ brings an authentic, no-holds-barred perspective on the realities of making it and staying in Hollywood.

Host

James Cullen Bressack

Award-winning filmmaker with over 25 directing credits, and over 150+ producing credits. Known for his work across horror, action, and thriller genres, James brings decades of behind-the-camera experience and raw industry insight to every conversation.

Producer

James Rundquist

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The Tracksuit Podcast is media industry professionals sit down with fellow creatives, filmmakers, and experts for wide-ranging authentic, unfiltered conversations about the entertainment industry - covering everything from the business of entertainment to the unexplained. Hosted by BJ Hendricks and James Cullen Bressack.

Untitled - May 29, 2026

00:00:00 Speaker: Welcome to the Track Suit podcast. Hello and welcome to episode one of the tracksuit Podcast. Here we sit with my co-host BJ Hendricks. I'm James Cullen Bressack, and our guest today is Jesse Kove, actor. Awesome, dude. Jesse. Uh, we're pretty good friends, right? Yeah. So this is, this should be an easy first podcast. Uh, obviously you didn't get the memo. You didn't wear a tracksuit. You showed up a little late. So, uh, it's going to be a short episode, so I guess we'll just end it here, guys. Thanks for having me. Thank you for tuning in. All right. Thanks for coming in this week. No. So Jesse, um, so gotta bring in tracksuits for people. Just have a closet. Think about that. Yeah, yeah. I don't think mine would fit you. Uh, that's fine, but but I do want to play something because I feel like this sums up me and your friendship. Okay. Um, I want to play this recording for everybody. I think I know this time, right now. What do you need? I'm about to sit down with my family and I'm in the middle of some stuff. What do you need right now? You called me. No, I didn't, Jesse. All right. Yes you did. Okay, maybe I did, but, like, I don't have time for this. I gotta, I gotta, I gotta have a call. I gotta, I gotta go. So anytime James is on the phone with you, if he says he's got to take this, it means he's got to get off the phone or he wants to get off the phone. Oh, Sony's calling me. I got I got Lionsgates calling me. I gotta take this right now. I just like to mess with Jesse because he's just so friendly. He's one of the nicest people I know. So it's he's the only person who you could call and pretend that they were bothering you by calling you. And at first he'd be like, did I do something wrong? Instead of going like, wait, you called me? It took like two responses before you went into the you called me, which I thought was pretty funny. Um, I love the banter. The banter is good. Well, anyways, getting into Jesse, you know, Jesse, I wanted to talk to you real quick because you've had like a pretty great career. As an actor, you're doing a lot of action movies. You're pretty great. I mean, fantastic career. I mean, but you, you have been building, you've been doing a ton of stuff leading man territory on, you know, some some pretty big things at the moment. Thank you. Um, but you know, that all started, you know, you, you, you started as a kid, you know, in the house, you know, you had chores as a kid, right? You know, you have a twin sister. Yep. And so you guys probably divvied up the chores. So, you know, like what? Like in your house. It was taking out the trash, uh, making your bed, you know, like cleaning the dishes, sweeping the leg. How often were you required to sweep the leg? Oh my God. Um, I've never heard this before. Um, I'm, this is the first for a first debut for a podcast. Uh, we'd sleep the leg pretty regularly, especially during sports. Um, you hear that a lot? Uh, yes. That motto is a part of my life for sure. Yeah. Through my dad. Uh, but yeah, that's part of growing up too was growing up in the business. My dad was as an actor, Martin Kove. Yeah. You know, most notably from Karate Kid, Cobra Kai Cagney and Lacey Rambo. Um, but yeah, Boris is dead. Boris is dead. That's right. With you. With you. That's right. The bubbles. The bubbles. Yeah, we're gonna get into that. Yeah. Um, but yeah, that was always a, that was an amazing part of my upbringing was, was being in Hollywood during, during, you know, the nineties and early, early two thousand. Growing up in the business, it was such a, such a pleasure and a joy and such. I have endless experiences with positivity. What's awesome about your career is I think you got a lot of amazing life lessons, uh, you know, acting wise, uh, and, and, um, and, and really career wise, uh, from your dad, but you've built this on your own. Like you have, you have gotten so many amazing, you know, accolades as an actor, uh, and done so many awesome projects, uh, where, I mean, you were you were just recently the the right hand of the president and president down saving the world as a plane flying outside of a plane. Uh, you know, you have a am I allowed to talk about your your thing you just did with autumn or, uh. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, he he is just not where it's airing yet. He is the lead of a, of a pretty awesome romance film that, uh, there was also a reality show that was Whitney Levitt. Yeah. Uh, was shot behind the scenes with it. Um, secret lives. So the, the, one of the stars of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Whitney Levitt was her first movie. Yeah. They secured her to do the first movie with me, and she was awesome. But Jesse is one of the most dedicated actors that I know. I would say that like every single day, he is either filming an audition or acting in something. Um, literally he's like, oh yeah, I'm going to Atlanta for two weeks. Oh yeah, I'll be in Nashville for two weeks. He is. He is filming something at all times. What's it like staying busy in this business, especially in a time where a lot of people are not busy? Thanks man. I so appreciate that. It means a lot. Really does. Uh, you know, I, I, I stay busy not just because, uh, I'm a tremendous actor. Uh, but I, I really feel like I stay busy because of my relationships that I've created with people that you understand. Like that is such an important part of the business is creating these relationships. And then every time, you know, I get rehired so much by people I've worked with all the time, because when I show up on set, I want to be a joy to work with. I want to uplift everybody. You know, I don't like, uh, egos on set. You know, sometimes, you know, I'll be very firm about, about how I maybe think about something or it should be this way. You know, that's not like coming from an ego standpoint. It's a, he's bought everybody Starbucks before. This is very good. Yeah. He bought everybody Starbucks on set one time. Now, you were by far the nicest dude. Oh, like you. You make everybody feel welcome. Oh, well, you guys, you guys know how to make a movie and make people feel welcome. And I think that that's, you know, you want to work with people that you enjoy working with. You're like, oh, he's going to work hard. He's going to show up on time. Uh, yeah. And, and I think no matter what level you're at, I mean, I would say that, you know, one hundred percent in this business, it's, it's really interesting because realistically, like you're, I'm more inclined to work with somebody. And I'm not saying the people I work with aren't amazingly talented, but I'm more inclined to work with somebody who is maybe slightly less talented than somebody else just because they're easier to work with. You know, I think that some people leave out and don't realize how important it is to just be easy to work with and, and, and fun to be around because I'm like, okay, maybe this person might be the most talented person in the world, but they're a dick. Like, I'm not going to want to deal with that for, you know, thirty days, forty days, because I'm actually going to get a worse performance out of that person because I'm going to be not enjoying making the movie. Be stressed out. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Jesse is by far like the nicest dude on set. Like anytime I, like, get to be in anything with Jesse, I'm always like, oh, my God, it's gonna be with Jesse. Like, today's day is Jesse's day. I get to be with Jesse. Have you guys shared some scenes yet, though? Yeah. Me and Jesse had never been in anything. We three movies together? Yeah. Not in the same. In the same scene? No, like we did. Uh, what? The workout. Yeah, you did the workout. You did complex. Texas complex. Did Boris's dad. Boris's dad, which debuts on Monday. Yeah. By the way. Yes. Beverly Hills Film festival. I'd imagine by the time this comes out, it's already debuted. Yes. Yes it has already. You guys loved it. Yeah, and you gave it one hundred percent on Rotten Tomatoes. Yeah. Um, but anyway, I mean, it's the same for you guys. It's such mutual respect for you two. And, you know, you know, sometimes it isn't always nice on set. Sometimes it's hard, it's difficult. There's things and that's, you know, that's part but like lifting people up, there's no way There's no reason that you shouldn't be making movies and having a good time, right? I mean, the best, the best. I've always said that the worst day on set is still probably better than any day in my normal life. Yeah. You know, like, it's like we get to play pretend for a living. Like, why would we not enjoy that? Um, those challenges are always like fun to like be in and figure out. And you're working with a team of people that want to help you. It's amazing. But I think uniquely you have, you have taken like a mindset and you've done this from a very young age. You consistently work, you put yourself out there and is, is this like a, your, your have a goal in how you're building your resume? Or do you look at acting almost like a muscle and you like to, you know, like, just like you hit the gym all the time? Are you, are you just getting your reps in by going on set? Like what is what is the mindset behind, uh, you know, wanting to work as often as you do? I never want, I always say I never want to be pigeonholed to one type of character. I know I do a lot of action stuff because I really do enjoy it, but I always say yes to like almost everything because I want to play different characters. I want people to see me be like, oh, he was so funny as that guy, or he was so dramatic, or he was great in action or, you know, whatever. Very different. Your character in Boris Is Dead is very different than a lot of the stuff. Yeah. So I haven't read the whole script of Boris Dead on Purpose. I play Boris in. Boris is Dead, so he's dead. I don't make it very far in the movie, but I never read the script. So what is your role in Boris Dead? I play, uh, one of the, uh, one of the police officers who's coming in to investigate the whole situation. And my dad were partners. Um, and he's wet behind the ears, you know? Yeah. So your dad's a cop, too? Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's the rookie cop. The dad's the veteran, and our relationship in the movie is so funny together. Like we with James, we created this these funny scenarios and how a lot of improv, a lot of improv. It was just, it wasn't like two tough cops coming in trying to figure out it was like a totally like, what the hell is going on? And you know, there's like a fight scene that he and I have in the car where we're fighting each other. And he slams my head into the, to the, the, the wheel of the car. It's just really fun. And that kind of fun, playful stuff is, is, is amazing. I mean, talk about difficult situations. My dad and I had, we were on set and we had flights booked because we had to go like do another project. I remember we were trying to figure out what the thing and then we were like, no, no, no, we'll move this flight. And then we were able to finish the scene. Yeah, it was, it was great. We. So we're so glad that we stayed. Yeah, it was a blast. And I think we got some really good stuff because of it. Yeah. So but yes, that's why to finish your question, I, I, I say yes to a lot of stuff that I, you know, obviously that I hope is like good. Um, but I, I, I want to stay busy because I want to stretch the muscles and try different things. You know, that's, that's so important. I feel like to do and not just, you know, like when some like, when someone says like, oh, it should be off or only with that like, yeah, sure. That's really nice. But like audition for that, give them a thing and see what you throw at them. Do you enjoy auditioning. I do. You know, funny enough, you know Josh Kelly. Good friend of ours. Yeah. We auditioned. He's my main guy that auditioned with David a lot, too. And David Lawrence as well. Yeah, they seem like my two guys and I have one other professional place I go to, and then I have, of course, my acting class I go to as well. But Josh and I really like, we take it seriously. Like we work these scenes, like we'll get in my, my room. I have an entire set up, not as elaborate as this, but tracksuit podcast. Yeah, exactly. And you know, we really work these scenes. We care about it. We want to try things and it's always a fun we literally, he and I will come into the room together and we're like, oh, we love acting. And we'll get, we'll get into these moments and try to find things. You know, I've booked many things with him and I've also booked, you know, Josh David, uh, um, Magnum P.I. with me. That was fun that he booked me on. That was great. Well, I actually like to talk about like, a moment that, like, exists and it's behind the scenes moment that I know about that I think is kind of powerful, uh, about actors that you're working with and, and, and helping one another. And it's when you were going to audition for, uh, for General Hospital and you were putting it together with Josh and you asked Josh, hey, why have you not done this? This would be perfect for you, right? Yeah. And then he does the audition and now he's been on GH for like three years. Three years? Yeah, two or three hundred episodes. Yeah. And I did not know that story. Literally, that was Jesse pushing him to go on tape for this when he was not sent the audition. So yeah, I mean, we were we were traveling and I got this audition and I was like, dude, you'd be great for this. He's like, he's like, I know a couple people that like run that show. And I was like, dude, like, tell them that you want to audition for this. He was like, you know, he was very humble. He's like, no, I'm like, dude, this is how the business works. You message someone that, you know, you do a good tape, you're a good actor. Like I was like, dude, do it. And this was like during, during like Covid when nobody was working. And, uh, and I was, you know, I didn't care whether we want each other to win, but that's, that's the great thing about Jesse is he he's not only a huge champion of himself, but he's a champion of his friends and those around him one hundred percent. I mean, I think that proof is in that, you know? Yeah, I mean, I, I love like, I mean, James has been so supportive of my career. I've been so supportive of, of his and like meeting you the same way was like, I mean, I love that it's a group of friends that cheers each other on so much. Like when somebody else does good, we all succeed. It's, it's such a great group, which I think is hard to find in Hollywood sometimes. You know, it is it is very hard for me personally, hard to grasp when people are not, you know, full of like either gratitude or wanting others to win because it's, it's such a selfless point. But it's also like, how can you not like, that's what it's all about is how helping other people. And it comes back to you in different ways. They won't forget it. Like, you know, it's just, it's like, what keeps the world working? You know, it's like working on a, on a movie set. Like you want your crew to be happy. You want them to eat well, you want them to get paid well. And you know, that's your team, your army. Like, how can you not share that with other people? I also not only get excited when I see friends succeeding, but it also, I think, reaffirms to me that my dreams are possible, that the things around me that I believe are possible, are possible because I see the wins, you have the wins, you have the wins other friends of mine have. And I go, okay, great. It's important to keep driving because it is possible. It's inspiring. It's inspiring for sure. Your stuff. I'm like, oh, he's doing it like, I can do it. Or we can, you know, and just to even be able to be in some of these things is absolutely amazing. Just to go back to, to Martin Kove, like I was telling James yesterday, I'm like Martin Kove in Karate Kid scared the shit out of me as a kid. Like I was like tormented by this dude. I was like, oh my God, that's like the worst dude on the planet. And everybody was such a huge fan of his. As I got into the business. And then now to be in movies with you and your dad is super crazy. Awesome. It is cool. I feel very grateful I get to do that with him, you know? It must be really special to have those moments and those things you could look at of you guys together. It's kind of thank you. And you understand your dad being in the business. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's it's I just to sum it up, I always think to myself, like in fifty years from now, I can look back at all this stuff because it's forever. Right? Yeah. It's like every different age group I have, I'm like, oh my God, we did that in two thousand and eight or whatever. And there we were, you know, and I could show my kids or whatever. And, um, but yeah, it is very special. We push each other, you know, we care about each other a lot. And he's, he's been so helpful in my career and just watching him do what he does. And, um, it's been, it's been such a joy. I'm actually about to go off to Utah at the end of this month to go jump on a project that he's doing. Um, and, uh, he's got, it's a, it's a, it's like a fun alien movie with Casper Van Dien. Mickey Rourke Um, super cool. Brandon. Uh, and, uh, yeah, it's fun. I can't say too much, but, uh, it's a fun project. That is awesome. Um, you've been traveling some a lot to Comic-cons. Yes as well. Type of cons I should say on things. How is that? They're so fun. It's, you know, I feel like a lot of like, movie stars or actors used to, like, look down on them because they thought like, oh, if you're doing Comic-Con, just because you don't have money and you're just getting a quick buck. Now they make hand over fist money at these things. Crazy. Yeah. Crazy money. Yeah. It's insane. I don't know what that's like, but, um, it's it's so much fun because you really get to meet your fans and, like, resonate with them and hear stories and, you know, and it's such a great way to like extend yourself to, to, to, to fans and to see how much they love your work. And it's so cool. And then you meet other actors that, you know, like for us, there's other actors that are there that we know that you've become friends with. You know, it's always funny, like you're in a, in a green room with like thirty actors that are from like Harry Potter, Lord of the rings or like Star Wars. It's like the most hilarious amalgamation of people. And, uh, it's, you know, like, like I became friends with, um, with dog pool Peggy from Deadpool. You know, the dog with the little doggy dog. I became friends with her and her parents because they go to Comic-Con. And I like how he doesn't say, I met the dog. He goes, I became friends with the dog. Peggy loves me. Peggy, I know you love me. Peggy. So I do want to take a moment, actually, to pivot there because you've done some really incredible work in animal activism. Um, you know, for dogs, you know, you work with a lot of, uh, dog rescues. Uh, you want to talk about that for a second? Yeah. I mean, you, you, you know, David Chokachi, the actor, we did President Down Together and, uh, he is huge in animal rescue. And so we started talking on set and he brought me into this, this organization he works with called Wings of Rescue, which is basically they charter these big cargo planes and we ship like hundreds of dogs at a time all around the country that are, you know, on, on the list for euthanasia to no kill shelters. Exactly. To no kill shelters because there's, there's more space in other parts of the country than in Los Angeles, which is really overcrowded. So I've been heavily involved with him in that. And we fly together on these, you know, these cramped little planes. And we have a blast. We just love doing it. It's such a joy and, you know, fills our spirit up. And it's, it's such a blessing. We get we get to do that. And you have a special needs dog yourself at home. I do, I have two pit bulls. One's a tripod. Yeah. Bubba. He's amazing. My little boy rescued him from Mexico. And, uh, and I'm still trying to get the meatball over to come hang out with meatballs. Been to your house before? I don't know if he's hung out with Bubba, though. But anyway, meatball was there for movie night. Oh. That's right. James's French bulldog is absolutely adorable. The meat. The meat? Yeah, meatball. He's amazing. But you're an animal lover, too, man. You love cats? Yes. I love that about you. Yeah, I love cats, I love cats, I love my my Frenchie. Uh, you know, I love animals. I feel like, you know, who wouldn't like animals? You know, it's true. It's it's just like a little ball of love that chases you around. It's their boost, the morale. I have this idea. Tell me you guys think. I think that there should be a company that that's that's always has dogs or just a dog on a movie set there. The morale dog one hundred percent. They just boost everyone's morale. They walk around all day. They're always there every day. I'm actually surprised that they don't do that for, um, uh, you know, child actors on set that they don't have, you know, an animal, you know, to hang out with them. Yeah. They have a studio teacher. They should have also like a puppy. John Claude Van Damme had his dog on set as Van Damme did. Like those crazy days where people were tired. Doesn't go anywhere without his dog. You know, Wolfie's comes around and everyone's like, woof. And then, you know, we go back to work and then everybody's happy again. Yeah. My partner and I, we just saw, uh, a hotel, I believe it was in Canada somewhere. I'd have to see exactly where that had a dog, a gorgeous dog that you could rent for the day. Wow. It would just come into your room and hang out, but you just rent it for the rent for the day. You could take it on walks, you could do whatever you want to do, and you can rent me for the day and come and hang out with you. And I am also rentable by the day, minutes or hours. It's up to you. Yes. Just call his agent. Yeah. That's how we got him here. We rented him for the day. Today he's pretending as an actor to be our friend. So, so. So, Jesse, why do you have a flip phone? Are you selling drugs? Yeah. Jesse. Jesse has a. Wow. Yeah. So I, I, it's so funny you mentioned this. Um, I recently. Hopefully you don't see that number. Um, I recently, uh, you know, I was talking to my girlfriend Shelby, who, you know, you're friends with absolutely love. Shelby. Shout out. Shelby, shout out. Love you baby. Love you so much. She, you know, she's very, um, you know, she just calls a spade a spade with me. She's just like, you're on your phone too much, you know, and sometimes that can affect like your relationship and the communication, you know, and it's especially in the day and age we live in, like you come home and you're on your phone or whatever. And like, and I was, you know, basically you're totally right. So I basically got this like this basically flip phone to offset with a picture of Shelby as the background. Right. There you go. That's adorable. He said it right. To offset that, like addiction because I'm totally on my phone too much, whether it's same social media, like, you know, how many times do you grab your phone to like, because for no reason just to look. Yeah, well I'm obsessed. I have a problem where I grab my phone and I go, wait, what was I doing? I did it today. Why did I, what was I gonna. I grabbed it for a reason. What is, what am I doing? And how am I suddenly this is the first thing that cat videos. You have a problem? Yeah. The first step of video. Yeah. But Jesse used to do the thing that I call the aha. Where I'd be talking to him and he'd be like, uh huh? Yeah, yeah. Uh huh huh. Not anymore. But yeah. So the flip phone, is it helping? You actually cannot believe how much it helps right away. So is it a separate number or is it the same number? Separate number? Um. I've given I haven't been given this. You're in there. You're in there. I might be in there, but I don't have that number. So it's like, because you immediately like, you know, like, I'll be honest, like I'll be driving in my car and I'll have my phone on the magnet thing and I'll like, you know, whether it's Instagram or you pull up a documentary or whatever, you know, you're on, you pull up a documentary while you're driving? Sure, yeah. Sometimes I pick up a drug or a Netflix show and we're in LA. There's traffic all the time. Or when he is in the back of a nice SUV. That's right. I see. But therein lies the problem. It's like, you know. So also I realized like, I don't have to answer the phone every single moment someone calls or like, you know, text message, reply every time you can get back to them in an hour or thirty minutes or five minutes, whatever. So it's been really like, you feel like you have more time and more space when you, when you do that. So I got a work phone that I thought I was going to do the same thing with. So I got it as an android because I'm a, I'm an iPhone user and I just can't figure out how to use it. So I literally, I just don't get back to people on it. I literally have now found a way to reroute it to my phone. Uh, I think it's cool. I don't, I don't, I don't use the, uh, the Android phone at all. I should probably switch it to a flip phone. That probably would have been nice to dial a number. Yeah, no social media or anything on that. Nothing. Just see that's see, I feel like that's where you. That's a hookup right there because that Instagram is addictive. I just want to scroll. It is. It's supposed to be. What are you doing? Now, don't get me wrong, sometimes it's inspiring because you're like, you get to see what your friends like. Jesse. And of course, and Josh Kelly put a time limit on it. It needs to be a time limit. We just saw Shark Tank this one of the past weeks that had a these guys had come out with a card where parents can like Bluetooth, the card to the phone, and the kids cannot get on any site that they choose to to do it until the card is clicked back on, I couldn't do. I needed somebody to do that to me. I do too. And let's be honest here, when we go to the bathroom, how long are we sitting in the bathroom for? Half an hour, right? Especially with me because I got a bidet and I love a bidet. Let me tell you how much I love my bidet. He's on a warm toilet seat. I'm waiting. Just. I'll tell you. Ready for scroll? I literally sit there, like before going to bed and I'm like, all right, let me just check, you know, check my phone real quick. I'll look at like Instagram and I'll scroll for what feels like ten minutes and I'll be like, wait, it's been two and a half hours. How is that possible? How is two and a half hours past clean as a motherfucker on that on that thing, the doom scroll. Booty. Booty. Booty. Be clean. This motherfucker. That. Damn, I didn't, I didn't hit that button three or four times on that day. That day just oh my God. Keeping it going. Just doing a whole different thing. Laying in bed, scrolling. He's like, oh, I'm just chilling on the bed. I come out there like a full shower by the time I'm done. If you haven't used the bidet, it's pretty amazing. So you guys get yourself. I mean, I think it's weird that like, we're not set up most most European restrooms have bidets. Like we are not set up for Vegas a lot of days. Yeah, we're not set up for it. They want you to scroll but post that you're there, but they will help you gamble more. That's my detox thing. I've only done it for a few days and it's been really cool. So if you get a call from my eight one eight eight one eight number. Oh yeah. Okay, eight one eight. It's an old school LA. Yeah, it seems like the number to prank him on. I'll be like, Jesse, I don't have time for this. Like, did I call you? We'll put that in the comments down below. Are you guys excited about, uh, about the release of Boris Dead coming out this week? I'm ecstatic because I'm. It's the biggest thing I've ever been in. I have not chosen to see anything because I wanted to be watching it with an audience, which I'm very excited about. I got I got a sneak peek back in the day of on James's phone of. James goes, do you want to. Do you want to see something of yourself? And normally I go, no, because I don't like watching myself on things. Um, but James showed me just a clip of before anything was really, really done. And I was like, Holy shit, that's me. Like, yeah, with with actors I look up to so much. How I get killed in this movie is insane. And it's brutal. And, uh, and it's, and it's not a spoiler because it's in the title. Yeah. Boris is dead now. Yeah. I, I, James got on my case because I put a post up about some photos. I'm sorry for whoever the powers that be at this movie. It was, it was a little showy. It was a little spoiler. Spoiler, spoiler. I didn't know as many because I, like I said, I didn't read the script, so I had no clue how many people die in this movie. Oh a lot. Well, now he only knows it because of Jesse's post. I took that one off. I took that one off. I said, wait, that dude's got a bullet hole in him, I said. I was like, James, you just got hit in the head. Nobody's gonna. I was like, he's like, no, there's a bullet hole in his head. Yeah, yeah. I got hit in the head with a bullet. But yes, it's, uh, it's an exciting time. Um, I'm excited for this film. I've got a lot of cool stuff coming out. What I'm really excited about is, um, this, this firefighter movie I did with Jon Voight and Kelsey Grammer. Yes. Yeah. I wasn't sure if, uh, if that was allowed to be talked about, I would have brought it up. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. They're, uh, they're looking to get a theatrical release for it now. Um, and then I think it's going to go on Paramount Plus. Amazing. Amazing. What was it like working with a legend like Jon Voight? Same. I saw your social media stuff. That was absolutely. Oh, he's a he's amazing. I mean, he's like eighty six and he is like still. So with it, like, just not that anyone in that age shouldn't be, but he's, he's literally, I'd show up on set and he'd like, shadow box me, you know, he would like try to hit me and I'd be like, all right, John. Oh, oh, you know, and I mean, he's just so with it. I mean, he shows up on set. He knows your lines, his lines. I mean, he like, he'll get there. He kind of like touches things like, okay, I'm here, we're doing this. All right. You know, he's he's so present with you. And he, uh, he's just an amazing actor. He cares so much about what he does. And he's such a lovely human being. And he's become a friend, which is like, such a godsend. Like, I became friends with Jon Voight. And, and, you know, I love we love chatting with each other and we talk about all kinds of different things, spirituality and life and movies. I mean, the stories that this man has told me about his, his history with, you know, working with people and, and his friends. I mean, it's just I'm so lucky to, to have worked with him and I and the, the crazy thing is when we auditioned for that movie, it was in person, which was so, which is so rare. Right? So you had to audition for this movie? Yeah. He was in the room. What was in the room? Yeah, which was, which was nuts. And Steven Paul, who, you know, great producer, was there, fern champion, the casting director. Um, and Jessica Lord is another actor actress that was in the film who was fantastic. Um, and, uh, it was so cool to, to do the in person. I mean, it had been a while since since I had done that. And and it was just great. Like old times. It was beautiful. Did you say Kelsey Grammer, too? Yeah. What? Yeah. Kelsey Grammer. Oh I'm sorry. Frazier. Frazier on that watch. As you know like when you watch two like titans of acting right. Yeah, yeah. When they were like working off each other, it's like you can't take your eyes off the monitor. I mean, yeah, you know, it's it's actually really amazing. I've talked about this a lot, uh, in podcasts that I've been on, but there's so many actors that the second they're actually on a monitor and on a camera, there's something that switches like, you know, when I was working with Christopher Lloyd early on in my career and I was like twenty one at the time, and he was in the scene before that, when I was talking to him, he was just hanging out on set. He just seemed like a normal, regular older gentleman. And then he gets on camera and I was like, Holy shit, that's Doc Brown. Like it just I just felt it like I was like, that is oh my God, that's Christopher Lloyd. Like, but there's something like they, they, they have a switch and a sparkle that only the camera captures. Yeah. And it's just that magic and it's, it's definitely mesmerizing. You can tell, you know, when you see them do their work, like what made them who they are. It's so cool to watch that. It's incredible. Yeah, I even remember that from the Tom Sizemore days where he would get on set and you would be like, whoa, dude. Like you would believe exactly what that dude was delivering. Like with no rehearsal whatsoever. Tom was a great actor. Yeah, I worked with him a personal life was, you know, worked with him a few times as well. But great actor. You're how I met him. Yeah, back in the day. Back in the day day for that, um, extraordinaire. So gonna pivot outside of this. Yeah, real quick. So you keep in shape a lot, obviously hitting the gym often. And I know you're a big supporter of, of peptides. So yeah, you know, like, let's, let's hear a little bit about that because that's something that's, I think very unique that not a lot of people know about. I know, shout out to Kwan. Yeah. Oh, good. Yes, exactly. Uh, gentle giant care. Uh, that's my my my buddy who I work with, who does all my, my peptide stuff. Um, I got into it recently because, um, you know, it was kind of becoming a thing. And I was looking up, I was like, what are these? And I researched what they were and they're just like amino acids and just like little building blocks. Like what, what are they exactly? It's just amino acid profiles that basically. So it's different than like GLP ones, stuff like that. It's like a, it's, it's basically helping your body doing what it's already doing, just like faster, you know, you're supplementing some of these, these, these, these, uh, recovery blends to help you. And, you know, they have them for everything. Um, you know, yeah, it sometimes can feel weird because you're like, the best way to do it is injecting it. But it's, you know, you're like, oh, needles and needles. It's weird. So it is weird, but it's the best way to, to, um, get them in your system. Yeah. Which is great. And, you know, I put my body through so much, whether it's through stunts and all that. It really helps. So Jesse does his own stunts, uh, actually on, on a certain project. I don't know if I should say which one, but a mortar blew up and you. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Call of duty, yeah. Call of duty. And like it hit. Knocked him and completely scraped up. Pyro. Let's also start with what call of Duty Modern Warfare two. What? Yeah, yeah, it was a playable character in it. Yeah. You can play me. I'm hammer. Yeah. And so this is when they started doing the live action commercials with the characters instead of just the video game characters, the actual actors playing those characters. Great guys. Um, and uh, yeah, one of the stunts, they had a pyro explosion, like went off in my face. It was crazy. But and you were wearing, he was wearing like goggles and that's like what saved him. He was like, lucky that he was wearing the goggles. Did it hurt? You would have taken your eye. It was. I mean, I had like little pieces of like cork and little rock in my in my face. It was like, yeah, it was, uh, yeah. He went to a monster truck rally with me right after and was just sitting there like, like zonked out. And I was like, kind of a badge of honor. You definitely looked the part at that point. You were a little shell shocked, Grave digger? Yeah, it's just my buddy, uh, um, uh, Aaron Switzer. Um, he was with me on that project. He's a great dude. We love shooting the shit together. He's a tough guy, too. And so he was just like, oh, dude. Badge of honor, war wound, war scar. And I was like, yeah, yeah. So it was, it was wild. But yes, I do enjoy doing my own stunts. I want audiences to see a movie that I do and be like, oh, that's, that's Jesse. I think it makes you like, enjoy what you're watching. More like when you see a Tom cruise movie, like when we went to see Mission Impossible and you just loved it. Yes, yes. I was so focused on the movie when we saw mission. So Jesse takes me to go see Mission Impossible with him. Uh, I haven't seen any of him past Mission Impossible three, so I had no clue what the story was. I'm sitting there in the theater. I told him I didn't want to go. We got tickets for like, twelve people. I told him I didn't want to go, but he's like, I bought you a ticket anyway. Just come. And so I'm sitting there and like, I get a text message and I look down, which I shouldn't have done. I shouldn't be doing that in a theater. Jesse takes a picture of me doing that. He goes, he doesn't respect Tom cruise. and like, and so like, I was like, he made fun of me forever. But the funniest thing about that was not just that whole section and me not really understanding what was going on in this last Mission Impossible movie, but was I was the one they pulled when we leave the theater because we saw it opening day, they pulled me for like, the Rotten Tomatoes like interview. I got to tell them to say what I thought of the film, and I was the only one who had no clue what was going on. Blasphemy. And then, because I've seen you speaking of stunts like hanging out of a plane on that president down movie. Yeah, that was super fun. That which was crazy. Did you film that Air Hollywood? Uh, I forgot the name of this place. It was one of those, one of those. It was like they had this, this crane inside this soundstage and like, lifted me up. And what's, what's I didn't know was that you can't actually hang on that for more than like five, ten minutes because the blood circulation in your body gets all messed up because you're on, you have all these, um, you're in like a harness all the time. It's cutting circulation off of. So you have to like bring you down and then get back up and like you're up and down all the time because you can't just be hanging like this. That's crazy. You got the muscles for it. And then the three sixty back on that, uh, did for the peptides. Like is that helping you just kind of keep. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I cycle on and off for them, but for sure, like during that time, I, I actually had Quan come to the set one of those days and he actually, he gave me an IV and all this stuff because, I mean, I was like doing all this fighting and physical activity and it was exhausting. And so, you know, I needed that like pick me up to help me keep going, um, rather than just coffee. And, uh, he was, he was so helpful, uh, in that. And Juan's been amazing. He actually, you know, and I can be honest with this because I think it's just good for men to hear this. Like, I didn't know because Quan was like, oh, let's get your blood work done and do all this stuff. And like, I'm very physically active, you know? Um, and I'm, I'm young and, uh, but my testosterone levels were like crazy low and I, and I'm also eat very healthy too. And I was like, how is that even possible? And, you know, it just varies between people. It could be genetics as well. And Quan was like, well, let's see a lack of not sweeping the leg enough. Yeah, exactly. Well, didn't you say you sweep the leg a little bit more often? I because of you, I'm also like looking at my testosterone, which is actually low. It's not like under the level, but it's almost getting to that level. Mine was really low. Yeah. Didn't you say that like yours was lower than your dad's? Yeah. My dad was like, way better than mine. Like, sweep the leg. Right? My dad's like, just like fifteen hundreds. Mhm. Um, but yeah, so Quan helped me get on a regimen to help boost that up, which has been great. And I feel so much better. And, um, yeah, I, you know, I think men, all men should, like, go get their blood test done and see where their levels are at all men should get their blood tests done. All men should wear tracksuits. These are things that you're learning from. This is how you become the ultimate man. Yeah. Yeah. Today's my first day in a tracksuit. How do you feel being your first day at a tracksuit? Man, it's like being like. It's like, you know, naked with an extra skin. Yeah. It's like. It's like having velvet pajamas that people think are cool looking. And then when you got to get on the bidet, you can just really like drop and go. You don't have to unbutton anything. I don't judge most of my life decisions by the bidet. I do, I do. William DeMeo is gonna love coming on this podcast because he'll just be in one of his. Oh, yeah. William. He gave me one of his tracksuits. He, uh, he gave me one of his, uh, Brooklyn's Brooklyn tracksuits. Those are awesome. The Gravesend tracksuit. Yeah. Yeah. They're good. Yeah, yeah yeah. They're good. Um, but yes, that stuff is very helpful, especially in this day and age. I think it's, it's great for anti-aging and everything. And, uh, I, you know, again, uh, gentle giant care, uh, he's based out of Atlanta, but he comes to LA like every month. Um, so definitely look him up. He'll take good care of you. Um, and, uh, yeah, just and also, I just love health stuff. It's important. I feel like it's really good to like, obviously enjoy yourself in life, but I think it's important to be conscious of that. Do you do you have like a fitness company or something that you're doing with you working out a lot? Yeah. So there's a, there's a company I work with called form performance. Um, they do coaching for people to, you know, help get in shape and stuff. Um, so they're based in England. They're awesome. Um, really enjoyed working. He, they helped me like after Covid, I really wanted to get myself in better shape and I looked them up and they were they were really helpful. So I was like, guys, I want to help other people do what I did. So for performance, check them out. But Kwan Gentle Giant Care is the one that really gets you going. It's important to get your blood blood test done. But yeah, all that stuff is so helpful, you know, especially when you're doing movies. And I pride myself on, like I said, being in the scenes when we're doing fight scenes and all that. And I think that's such a fun part of what we get to do. Yeah, I was just telling James before you got here, um, that you looked extraordinary in complex Texas, just in the photos. I mean, I wasn't on that set during that time. I said I wasn't either because that was second unit. So I wasn't there when they were shooting on the big day. Helicopters. Yeah I know yeah yeah yeah. You know, I saw a helicopter and I was like, I should have also read the whole script for this movie because I did not. I think we're learning BJJ doesn't read the script. I read my parts and welcome to Hollywood bullshit, bullshit. My line, bullshit, bullshit my line. Bullshit bullshit. Laugh, smile. Die. Leave, laugh, smile. Die. Leave. Fly back out. Um, yeah. Yeah. He loves to just be in and out for the scene. Yeah, I love it because James, like, it's, it's also just being interested in being on sets with you where you are not the director, and then it's just trying to figure out whether or not James could get it done faster. So it's like, it's my favorite thing is to just fuck with James, where James would be like, I could have had this scene done like ten minutes ago. I'd already be done with this at this rate. So it's kind of funny when you're not directing. And I was acting in that scene when I was like, why am I in this scene? Phenomenal. You and David Lawrence. Yeah, I get to be in a scene with with, and two of my great and panthro who's amazing, uh, for that. But yes, in what, three movies with Jesse. But we have to be in a scene together soon. Well, you'll be I'm trying. I'm trying to get James in the Western. I'm doing. We're we're in the middle of of oh, he's putting it on a podcast. So now it really has to happen. That's right. I know we own the rights, so it's no big deal. But we're doing a prequel to the not not the rights thing, the hiring me? Oh, yeah. This is a verbal contract. It's already a done deal for me. So it's just other people that are just, you know, whatever want to dot the I's, cross the T's. Uh, but we're. My dad and I are co-producing a prequel to tombstone. What? It's when Doc Holliday and Wyatt Earp met. It's a great, great script. Yeah, it's a great script. I'm trying to be your huckleberry. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So we're we're, uh. I'm. I want James to direct the film. Um, and, uh, my dad does as well, so we're just, uh, we're putting that together right now. It's been really, really exciting process. James has been on the phone with a couple of the producers. Yeah, it's, it's, it's really cool. It's a great script and I think it's a great part for Jesse. So that's awesome. I'm really excited to see. Yeah, yeah, we were just, we, my partner and I were just checking you out riding horses the other day. We were like, what can Jesse not do at this point? Look at him riding horses, working out, taking peptides, the whole thing. That's the thing too. Funny enough, I actually saw this. Peptides make you a better horseback rider. Well, you could be sure that peptide, there would be no acid. That makes you really good with horses. I mean, it's important to know. I saw this, I think it was, uh. Who was it that, um. Um. Mia goth. She put a thing the other day. She's like, I'll say anything to make sure I get the job, whether it's riding horses or whatever. And I was like, well, I was like, I feel like you shouldn't lie about not knowing how to ride a horse. Yeah. No, you it's not fair to the animal. It's also very dangerous for you because if you don't know how to ride a horse, you could get kicked off of that horse pretty easily and then. Can't save a cowboy either, you know? Yeah. I'm a I'm like a fat cowboy that doesn't need to get on any horse. I can, like, pull the horse along on there. My scenes could be beside the horse on things. I would do that. Mhm. Keep me in mind. So, um, as as somebody who's been in the industry for a very, very long time, uh, and started at such a young age, uh, and you have done so much as an actor. What advice, like what nuggets of advice do you have for actors trying to break in, especially now with the dynamics of what's going on in this world, because you're also very active on social media, does that. Is that something you think actors should push or. Yeah, yeah. I mean, we're always having to sell ourselves, right? I think that's an important aspect is to show like, I feel like, yes, like, even if you have the talent, like it's not enough. You have to be seen, right? People need to see you. And nowadays big companies, you know, big studios, they, they're acquiring brands that come with actors. You know, they're hiring big social media stars because they come with a brand, they come with a following. And that is just the reality of what it is now. I mean, even like David Chokachi, he's on the new Baywatch. Yeah, seventy percent of the cast are social media people that have big brands. Yeah. And, um, you know, they want to pool that audience and that's, that's fine. It's good for business. But are there things that you've tried that haven't worked that you think people should avoid and things that you've tried that have worked that you think? Yeah, like the social media stuff. I feel like, don't take it too seriously. Like just put stuff out there, you know, and be fine with it and just don't like, don't base your life off of someone else's social media stuff and overthinking or fuck with you hard man. Like, should I post that? Should I not like your time will come whenever that is. It's like you don't have to be that person. And well, I think authenticity is really important in this world at the moment. And I think being your authentic self, let your audience find you. Don't try and be somebody else, you know, uh, be the first of you. Focus on who you are and be the best you you can be. And don't mold yourself to other people's expectations. I totally agree with you. It's very important, you know, trying to, you know, and it's also hard because of social media trying to compare yourself. Like I, of course I'm guilty. Like I'll compare myself to other actors that are out there that I'm like, oh, why aren't I there or with this? But it's like, we're all, does that drive you when you do that? Yeah, it's both, you know, I mean, because like, let's talk. You directed Glen Powell before I have back in the day, you did a short film where he directed Glen Powell. I feel like isn't. Doesn't that kind of drive you to believe like, wow, I can I can get there for sure. And Glen's such a good guy. And I was at the premiere of his football show that he did. And, you know, we caught up for a minute. It was it was great. And he's such a great guy. And I love what he's doing for the actual business. Like he's a big fan of wanting to like get movies made and, and, and, uh, make good projects. Um, and, you know, it's, yeah, I see that. And I'm like, like you said, it's like, oh, look at, look at where he's taking himself. But he's been doing it since he was a kid. I mean, he's been working hard since he was like nine, you know, um, working in Jesse Cove's short films. That's right. It's actually you can look it up online. I think it's called The Audition. It was a spoof about the audition process. Oh, how silly it all is. Um, and it was really, really fun. But yeah, you know, you see all that it is very inspiring. And you also learn stuff and you see like what they're doing and, and, um, you know, how you can kind of change your game about certain things. But again, back to the advice stuff. I just think also like, don't take no for an answer. Just keep pushing yourself out there. You know, you always gotta as an actor, we got to have like, you know, the heart of a lion and the skin of a rhino, you know, because you're going to get rejected all the time. Great quote. Yeah. You will. You are going to get rejected. It's just part of what it is. But that's not a bad thing. You can just learn from it. You get one hundred no's, but all you need is one. Yes. Exactly. That's one thing. And also, I think it's important putting yourself out there and shooting shots that you, you know, wouldn't normally shoot, I think and be vulnerable. Yeah, exactly. I mean, listen, I, I, I became friends with you because you DM'd me on Instagram repeatedly telling me that we had mutual friends and we should become friends. And then I was ignoring your, your DMs and you said, if you keep ignoring my DMs, I'm going to shave your beard off. And I, I, that was funny. And so, so I called, I was talking to David Lawrence and he was like, oh yeah, I'm going to Jesse Cody's house. And I had not met you met you yet. And I was like, oh, I'm gonna come with you. I never I had never met you. And I just showed up and he was like doing an audition for you. And I met you at your house while you were filming a David Lawrence audition. And then I met you, uh, through him. And then I crashing your birthday dinner with Jesse. That was. And we did a sushi. Sushi. Dan. Oh. Oh, it was great. It was so fun. And I was like, Jesse is the nicest dude. By the end of the night, I was like, oh my God, I got to be friends with this dude. He's the nicest, sweetest guy. That was the pro gong, uh, dinner where we just kept asking the sushi people to hit the gong because they had a gong, right? And we were drinking a lot of soggy and we just kept going gong and be like, are you pro gong or no gong, no Gong Gong, Gong, Gong, Gong Gong, we almost called this the Gong podcast. But we yeah, the Gong show. We figured nobody would understand what the gong was. So we were like, tracksuit would make way more sense for this. But to three sixty back. That's also where I met Josh Kelly, uh, that same night and then and my uncle was there too. Oh my God, your uncle was a magician. He was like, let me do card tricks. And I was like, oh my God, I love it. It was my birthday. I was quite inebriated that night, and my uncle chose that night to hand me a ring that was my grandfather's and say, say this was your grandpa's ring. He would want you to have it. And within twenty minutes, I drunkenly lost that ring. Oh my God. No, he handed it to me within twenty minutes. I'm wearing a tracksuit. Things don't stay in the pockets. I was like, it's gone. You see this ring? But. But I found it. I kept it up my ass for twenty years. Yeah. And what I was gonna say is great. Josh Kelly, that was a Pulp Fiction reference. Yeah. Josh Kelly on the set of the workout, I was having like a really hard time trying to get these lines right at the same point in time as all the camera moves had to hit the exact points around the deal. And one of Josh's best advice I've tried to keep to this day was Josh was like, you should just write out your lines, like write them out, like go on a piece of paper and write them out. And Josh is absolutely unbelievable because I would imagine you have to learn so many lines so fast for the soap operas because it moves so fast. Oh, he's on that. What advice do you have for actors to, like, learn lines, auditions, those type of things? Yeah, Heath ledger did that. He wrote, you know, his like Joker journal. He wrote his lines out in his journal. He had, uh, for me, it's stuff like that repetition. I'll record, you know, the other person's lines and then I'll play it back. And, and so I'm basically out loud acting the scene so I can like, get it down and then I'll like, get in there. And, and so that's always helpful for me is actually working with someone else is always great. Um, so unfortunately time flies and we are at the end of our podcast. So, you know, are there any, uh, and we'll, we'll have to have you come back. Yeah. You know, there's so much more to talk about, but, uh, are there, you know, where can people find you? Are there any, you know, upcoming projects you want to plug or anything like that before we sign off here? There's, there's so much there's, um, you know, uh, the last firefighter coming out, Boris is dead. Um, and, uh, those are the ones I'm most excited about now. There's also Tennessee Ride Along action comedy I did in Toronto. Yeah, yeah, that looked fun. Yeah, that was with James Storm, right? Yes. James Storm, the wrestler we had, we had a great time. Produced by Gary Wheeler and Brainstorm up in Canada. They're awesome. Oh, Gary Wheeler's the one who does the Blue Ridge. Yes. Right. Yeah. Very cool. Um, brought me that. So there's, there's a lot there's like four other projects I'm not mentioning, uh, all for love coming out, I think in December. But yeah, you can follow me on all my platforms at Jessie Cove, J e s s e k o v e, and I'm very active on there. We'll drop that down and Wings of Rescue, go to Wings of Rescue dot org and donate there. Yes. Josiah's Cove signing off. All right, guys, thank you so much for coming onto the podcast. And it was a pleasure having you, bud. Thank you guys. Thank you so much, Jesse. Love you guys. And that was the, uh, tracksuit podcast episode one. Thank you Jesse co for coming on. And we hope you all spread the love and we'll see you next time. Save some dogs.