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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Hullhouse. So on this podcast, if you've watched before, you know this. And if you haven't watched, welcome, and you'll soon see us as you look through my video library. I tend to not cover the Kabuki Theater.
Seth Holehouse:I don't like focusing on what happened in DC today, what's going on with Fauci getting, you know, torn apart in some hearing. I'm trying to to find the the stories and the information that I believe to be the most important, and that's part of what my job is. I really look at that as I'm trying to curate information and guests and topics to try to bring you, what I think is is the really important story that sometimes is being covered, like the Trump assassination attempts, but oftentimes aren't being covered. And my guest today, my good friend friend JJ Carroll, was a border agent for twenty four years, what he's talking about and what we're gonna be getting into in today's discussion is what I think to be one of the most important and critical topics that's happening right here in this country that affects the future of our country, and unfortunately, it's not being talked about very much. It's what he calls the 50,000,000 illegal immigrant time bomb.
Seth Holehouse:And I'll let him explain it as you'll see in the discussion, but to give you just a brief overview. It's a sober look at the number of illegals that came into our country, especially in the past four, four and a half years, how those illegals are changing our demographics, how they're gonna be changing the the districting and the rezoning, how they'll change things politically without even voting, how massive changes will be coming out of this, but also looking at the fact that the vast, mass majority of these illegals are still here. And as JJ will be telling you, what his sources are telling him is we're talking about over a hundred thousand Chinese troops, okay, on American soil right now, which begs the question, what are they waiting for? Why are they here? They're not here sightseeing.
Seth Holehouse:There's something else going on. And so I'll be just talking about all this and much more with JJ. Before jumping to the the show today, thank you for joining us. I hope you enjoy the interview. I wanna encourage you if you like to listen to podcasts instead of watching them.
Seth Holehouse:Every show that I do also goes up on every podcast app. So Apple Podcasts, Spotify, etcetera. So make sure that you're also checking out your podcast app, subscribing to Man in America there. That way, can listen while driving or, you know, building a goat cage, which is one of my next tasks or whatever it is. So please enjoy the show.
Seth Holehouse:Mister JJ Carroll, it's been what feels like way too long since you were last on the show, but it's great to have you back on. Thank you very much for joining us today.
Speaker 2:Thanks for having me back. And it has been a while, but we always have very, robust and and and passionate, discussions. So I'm really excited about coming back on your show.
Seth Holehouse:Absolutely. So one thing I wanna hone in with you today, you were a border agent for, I think, what what, twenty four years. And not just, you know, a single agent on on the force. You you managed large teams. You were you saw the whole scope of border operations.
Seth Holehouse:You still have a lot of contacts on the border feeding you information, and you've you've been consistently the most accurate person and the most truthful person that I've come across in terms of understanding the real situation of the illegals in our country. Whereas some people say, oh, well, there's maybe 10,000,000 or there's 15,000,000 or there's this many people. Your numbers are consistently, I think, way more than what the official narrative is, and I find your information to be far more accurate and also knowing your sources. Now I think what's happening right now is, obviously, Trump is in the office. You know, we've got control of the house and the senate.
Seth Holehouse:There's all these positive things, and I think some people may put their feet up a little bit. But Mhmm. What we were talking about before we started recording, which I wanna really focus on, is the ticking time bomb of all of these immigrants that are still in our country. And if you look at the numbers that, you know, Tom Holland's putting out, oh, we deported, you know, 2,000, one thousand. It's like, okay.
Seth Holehouse:It's gonna take maybe three hundred years to get the rest of these illegals out of our country, not to mention the fact that they're multiplying faster than Americans. And so what the what you're the the red flag that you're raising right now, which I really wanna focus on because it in my opinion, is so important that if we don't look at it now, in three years, we're gonna get blindsided by it, is the fact that there's this massive illegal immigrant voter base that come the next, you know, major election. If these people are in the you know, put into the census and they're voting now, like, we've lost everything from that. So, anyway, I'll let you give yourself a quick introduction, just to, you know, for folks that aren't as familiar with you, but then I I'd love to just see you dive right into how the open border will affect affect our future elections.
Speaker 2:Okay. For, these are great topics to talk about. Yes. I did twenty four years United States Border Patrol. I rose up the ranks not by being an administrative do nothing.
Speaker 2:I I was down in the weeds running task forces, very violent times, running ATV units, and then running a a maritime narcotic and human smuggling task force on the coastline from San Diego to Santa Barbara. I worked a complete California corridor, complete border, Arizona border as well. And I rose up the ranks and I, my last year in the United States Border Patrol was Joe Biden's first year and I retired as a deputy patrol agent charge. So I was like 25 agents out of 2,500 in San Diego sector. So, I was at about a 2,000 foot view.
Speaker 2:So, I saw everything that was coming in from DC coming down to the sector level and me going to my station to push it out. So, I witnessed the treason firsthand. Now, and I'm glad you phrased this the way you did, a ticking time bomb because what the left, and I want to include the left as the rhinos and the globalist elite that wanna globally reset the the the world. We have 50,000,000 illegal aliens in America right now, and people right away scoff and go, JJ, fifty. And I go, okay, let me take one minute and tell you how I get to 50,000,000 and the fact that everyone in the immigration world, to include the politicians, agree with this even though they'll tell you something different.
Speaker 2:They've been on record saying the truth. In 2019, MIT and Yale did a demographic study on the number of illegal aliens in America and they jammed all this demographic data into an algorithm and they ran that algorithm 1,000,000 times and it came with the high of 29,000,000 illegal aliens in America and the mean, the median, the average 22,000,000 and everyone admitted 22,000,000. The day before this was released, everyone in the media and politics were saying it's 11,000,000 And I was saying it's been 11,000,000 for a decade. The number is closer to 30,000,000, but let's just go with 22. Everyone agreed 22,000,000.
Speaker 2:That was in 2019. In four years, Joe Biden allowed in 30,000,000 illegal aliens. 30,000,000. If you don't want to trust me and you somehow believe that this government that has lied to you for over one hundred years is going to tell you the truth, then let's play the game that you're an idiot and you believe the government. The government admits to 18,000,000 people coming into America.
Speaker 2:Four and a half million people every single year for four years. So you take that 18,000,000 plus the 22, you're at 40,000,000. We're splitting hairs between me saying 50 to 52,000,000 and you saying 40. Are you okay with 40,000,000 people being in your country illegally? So we can play the nuance of JJ's a liar and the government's absolutely the greatest thing in the world, they tell you the truth.
Speaker 2:But what you don't understand is, and I've written this in my book, Treason, that just came out, I take the problem of 50,000,000 people and I overlay the birth rates on top of that. And I go through and I show you everyone that's come in the country illegally. The birth rates are two to five times that of American citizens. Our women are not even reproducing at the replacement level, Seth. So we're dying population, you're bringing in millions of people a year, then you're overlaying the birth population.
Speaker 2:Now this is where it gets, I think, crazy, is why does the Democrats already started lawsuits to include illegal aliens in the 02/1930 census? No other planet on Earth actually counts anyone outside of the citizens living in their country. Why? Because that's who you're responsible for, but the Democrats want to take all illegal aliens and put them in the census. Why?
Speaker 2:Because the vast majority of the illegal aliens are residing in blue cities and states. So then when the 02/1930 census comes out, they will reappropriate the House seats and what they say that when they get done, at least 60 seats will flip from the Republicans to Democrats. Sixty seats. We're sitting, Seth, on a three seat majority, and we're, like, clapping. Yes, we got it.
Speaker 2:If they win meaning they win by Donald Trump does not finish his job. They will change America it will never be the same they'll have 60 seats in the House and then it is over Elon Musk said this multiple times and quote you will never be able to vote yourself out of this situation, and he's right.
Seth Holehouse:So it's not necessarily about all the illegals voting because even with voter ID and everything, it's about the fact that the census, which then a lot of our political positions are tied to the amount of people, that's what changes everything is when they say, oh, wow. We've got another 40,000,000 people living in these these Democrat strongholds. That that is what shifts drastically shifts the voting map. Is that is that correct?
Speaker 2:That's exactly correct. Now are you having voter, voter fraud? Yes. Because all the NGOs as illegals came in the last four years were signing up to vote, And then the legals would leave the shelters or the hotels, and then the hotels and shelters would get millions of mail in ballots, right? That's always going to be a problem until Donald Trump, which he's doing now through executive orders, begins to clean up the voter rolls, etcetera, etcetera.
Speaker 2:However, the long game, the bigger game, is changing the electoral, meaning, so let's look at it in real time, Seth. Donald Trump wins, he's so excited, I'm gonna do all this. You have 60 seat majority of Democrats in the House. They're never going to release the purse to him. He he's he's a lame duck.
Speaker 2:So every president past Donald Trump in 02/1930 will be worthless unless you're a Democrat. And then if the Democrats are able to get a part of the Senate somehow, it's game over, dude. It's it's over. I think once they flip these seats to 60 to the Democrats, America may we may retain the name The United States Of America, we're never gonna be The United States Of America again. We will go into a headstrong socialist and people say, well really, what does that look like?
Speaker 2:Can you give me an example? And I'm gonna go back to, I think, 02/2006 when the great Pat Buchanan wrote the book, The Suicide of the West, and he says, you wanna know what this all looks like? Look at California. Look at California. So now you have dual allegiance, meaning the people that are in the House and Senate inside the state of California have dual allegiance with Mexico and Central America.
Speaker 2:What does it look like now? California spent nine point seven billion, that's with a B, on illegal alien healthcare. Healthcare. I don't think it's that one. The suicide of West Jonah Goldberg.
Speaker 2:I think it was yeah. It's Patrick Pat Buchanan. The great Pat Buchanan wrote this. I think it was a suicide of the West. I could be not giving it the right title.
Speaker 2:I apologize. But Pat Buchanan
Seth Holehouse:wrote this The death of the West. There you go.
Speaker 2:The death of the West. Excuse me. Yes. And inside it, he calls it the suicide. Yes.
Speaker 2:The death of the West. Thanks for
Seth Holehouse:checking What's funny is actually looks like what we we I purchased it in 2020.
Speaker 2:Oh, did you?
Seth Holehouse:So it's probably it's sitting up in our library somewhere. I haven't read
Speaker 2:Oh, you need to read it because he is a he's the greatest historian that's living. I know he's toward the end of his life right now. He's you don't even hear about him, but he predicts. I'm reading this book. I think I was reading it twenty six ish something like that.
Speaker 2:'27 and I'm reading it Seth and I'm like, oh my god, everything he said that was going to happen is happening in real time Like all the statistical estimates are happening and he's right. This is what's happening to our nation. Our nation is going to flip into a socialist. So, can you imagine another 60 AOCs or or, Jasmine Crockett. I mean, that's what we're looking at.
Seth Holehouse:So, I mean, it's really it's it's not just about filling up the the voter rolls and everything. It it's that long term, this is the great replacement. Right? It's it's that America in, say, thirty years won't look like America. As a white man, I will be the absolute minority in this country if if this trend continues.
Seth Holehouse:Correct?
Speaker 2:Yeah. But you you know that Joe Biden said that when he was vice president, I have it in my book, where he says and it has on video, sitting right next to him is Alejandro Mayorkas with a stupid grin on his face, the secretary of DHS who was the deputy secretary under under Obama and and I'm going to almost quote Joe Biden. He says we are going to have unrelenting waves of immigration and of course he never makes that distinction illegal. He just broad brushes it All of its immigration, and we all love immigration, No, no, no. We love legal, but I digress.
Speaker 2:We're gonna have unrelenting waves of immigration so much so that the Anglo Saxon male or the Anglo Saxon American will be the minority in their own country, end quote, that is not a bad thing.
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Speaker 2:Well, hold on a second. Why is that not a bad thing? Did you vote for, did I vote for, for our demographics to be completely upended? No. And this is and I wanna make this clear because I know the very first pushback, Seth, is gonna be, you're a racist, you're a big white guy, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 2:Okay, whatever. You're an idiot. Let me tell you. Let me tell you statistically what I'm talking about. There's 195 nations on planet Earth.
Speaker 2:The Border Patrol arrest data shows over 180 nationalities, meaning the entire Earth came to America illegally. So you can, we can talk about every skin cone you can imagine is here in America. We're not talking about a demographic racial shift. We're talking about a Democrat demographic upheaval of citizens to non citizens. But at the same time, yes, the white population will become a minority in their own country.
Speaker 2:Now, if people say, well, I don't mind, I'm black, and I have this discussion with a lot of black individuals that have me on their shows and I say to them, do you know that you are not the number one minority in America? And they look at me like I got two heads and I go, you don't know that, do you? And they're like, I've never heard that. I said, well, because your federal government Artificially brought in millions tens of millions of illegal aliens from Latin America and Mexico you are now the number three. And they're they're stunned I go why do you think you don't have that leverage anymore because you had artificially destroyed the population of America.
Speaker 2:And it's true.
Seth Holehouse:Here's the clip. I found it. Check it out.
Speaker 3:I would argue it's unlike any other large country in the world. See, there's a second thing in that black box, an unrelenting stream of immigration. Nonstop. Nonstop. Folks like me who were Caucasian of European descent for the first time in 02/2017, will be an absolute minority in The United States Of America.
Speaker 3:Absolute minority. Fewer than 50% of the people in America from then and on will be white European stock. That's not a bad thing. That's a that's a source of our strength.
Speaker 2:Source of our strength.
Seth Holehouse:And I I write
Speaker 2:this in my book. I do. I wrote that verbatim in my in my book and I say source of strength. Explain to me, you jackass. How is that a source of strength?
Speaker 2:By diluting the American population with third worlders. No one's ever been able to explain to me, since I was in the border for twenty four years, and I always ask the question, because you don't know what it's like to speak to an illegal alien. You don't know what it looks like to look at somebody that is illiterate in their own language. They don't know their how to spell their name. They don't know their birth date.
Speaker 2:And when I tell them I need you to sign your name, they can't. So I give them a pencil or pen and they make a mark and they can't even make a straight line mark because they've never used a pencil or a pen before and there are tens of millions of them in our country and we're shocked that our social services have been destroyed, that our federal government has utilized USAID to fund international NGOs with hundreds of billions of dollars, and then we funneled hundreds of billions of dollars through DHS to FEMA to the domestic NGOs. Our government our government funded our death. Just like Pat Buchanan talked about the death of the West, this is the suicide of America, and we paid for it. We pulled the trigger to our own gun to put a bullet in our head.
Speaker 2:It's amazing. And the more people I talk to, the more people I realize, the more I realize they don't understand. They don't understand what has transpired for decades, but more so in the last four years for the global reset to take effect. Seth, you and I talked about this quite a bit. How do you do a global restructuring with America still as the giant?
Speaker 2:You can't. You can't. But if you take the giant down, then everything, the whole world becomes different overnight, and that's what they're banking on.
Seth Holehouse:Absolutely crazy. So I'm looking, do do you know how many I'm trying to do some research. How many illegals Trump has deported so far? I can't find the information quickly.
Speaker 2:Well, Tom Homan has said that they are closer to forty, forty four thousand right now. Now I think this is a great segue into look, I'm the biggest MAGA Donald Trump. I I'm a Republican, but because I have to. I voted for Trump in spite of the r next to his name. I voted for him, the MAGA king, and I'm the biggest Tom Homan supporter.
Speaker 2:However, I'm gonna be always intellectually honest. Donald Trump has shut the border down and he need to do that. It's like your house is flooding. What do you do? Do you start siphoning the water out or do you shut the the main off?
Speaker 2:You shut the main off. He that's what he did. However, Seth, the arrest and deportations from the interior are anemic. If we stay on this pace, it will take a hundred and fifty, two hundred years to deport everybody, meaning it's not gonna happen. So Donald Trump has to accelerate it and the only way he's gonna accelerate it is by the multiple ways, but one way is the military.
Speaker 2:And people recoil at that military on our soil and I go, what's your alternative? Your alternative is a slow dying death of cancer or are we going to go in there and eradicate that cancer from your body? It's gonna be painful, it's gonna suck, it's gonna be uncomfortable, But when it's over, you're gonna be able to stay alive and then prosper. Your choice. Which one do you want?
Speaker 2:That's how I think Donald Trump has to present this to America. And then I believe Donald Trump has to he has to accelerate. I believe the deportations arrests and deportations from the interior every day need to average between ten and fifteen thousand. Right now, we're doing 30 arrests a day per state. Come on, man.
Speaker 2:Come on. That's even down even Donald Trump said, this is not this is not working. Acting ICE director within thirty days, you're fired. Tom Homan's come out and said, actually, this week, we've arrested forty, forty four thousand illegal aliens. That's not even close to being enough.
Speaker 2:So it's not I'm not bagging on Donald Trump and Tom Homan. I'm just repeating what those men have said, and I'm telling you I agree with it wholeheartedly. I don't believe through my sources that Tom Homan is either he's not being funded properly and he doesn't have the personnel and manpower. I would do things very differently. Don't let me give you an example, Seth.
Speaker 2:The reason why you have to use six or 10 ICE agents, FBI agents, Border Patrol, combination thereof to go find one illegal alien, criminal because they're in apartment complexes, shelters. So, the probability of agents getting hurt, shot, or killed are exponentially higher especially when people are tipping off the people that they're coming, right? At the same time, when I film my documentary, I could go to 10 different shelters right now and within one week, arrest 40,000 people. In one single day, I could go down to the neighborhood called Clinton in the middle of New York City and I could arrest 6,000 single adult military age men in hours, in hours, but they don't do that and my question to the audience and to the world is why? Why are we doing onesies and twosies when I could give you 6,000 right now?
Speaker 2:6,000 in twenty four hours, I would have them. Not even twenty four hours, I would have it. I would the next, would go to the Roosevelt Hotel in New York City, and I would arrest 5,000 men, women, and children at 03:00 in the morning and deport their asses out of my country that fast. Donald Trump has to make a declaration of national emergency. He's going to have to ignore all these courts.
Speaker 2:He's gonna have to it it he's gonna have to proudly and and and with force use his executive privilege and his executive authority. If he if he dances around, this is all going be for naught because of what we talked about at the very beginning. This is a ticking time bomb and no one will no one will no one will acknowledge that this is a ticking time bomb, and I've started to pound the drum. Understand the left has left a bomb in the middle of America, and they don't have to do anything. They just have to wait.
Speaker 2:Wait Donald Trump out. Put roadblocks with with with lawyers and and attorneys and and judges. Now, let's just sit and wait for it to explode and when it does, we win. We win and and I'm gonna tell you and I say this in my book. I applaud you, Left.
Speaker 2:I applaud you. You are determined. You are you believe in what you're doing, and you do it. You are everything the Republicans are not. I hate you.
Speaker 2:I hate the left, but I, as an honest man, add to my adversary, I have to say, damn, good job, guys. You guys did it, and you're almost you're almost gonna win. You're you're this close to winning, and we all know it.
Seth Holehouse:So it's like they're they're they're playing a long game in this. Mhmm. All you know, the Soros funded NGOs and and the globalist organizations moving all these people into our country. It wasn't something that is, oh, okay. We'll we'll make sure that Trump doesn't get back in.
Seth Holehouse:Like, this is a literally, it's it's a time bomb that goes off in, say, ten years that no one knows how to disarm. Or or you could say that no one is even attempting to actually disarm it in a way that means anything, because and and we haven't even talked about the security threat of this because, thankfully, right, you know, knock on wood, we're a few months into Trump's presidency, and we haven't had some sort of mass terrorist attack. And that's the thing is that when you look at how critical our infrastructure is, whether it's the grid, our our food supplies, There's so many aspects of the modern day America American life that are so easy to target. All all it would take is even if you had a say you had a hundred special operators, you know, special force operators from China, and say you had, you know, three man teams in key regions around the country
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Seth Holehouse:Just as a hundred people could probably take down the majority of our grid. I mean, it's it's it's that I mean, this is serious. This is and that and this again, this is the whole other threat that isn't even related to the population change and the great replacement. Just looking at the fact that these people are still here in our country. Mean, honestly, I think it's a miracle that we haven't had something like this happen yet.
Seth Holehouse:We haven't had any dirty bombs go off in big cities. We haven't had any attacks on our grid. I mean, to me, it's it's like, god is protecting his nation, but the question is how long is that protection gonna last?
Speaker 2:Alright. This is a great segue because when you look at the total this is what this is not my numbers. Okay? This is the the federal government through their website said, in four years, we arrested through the border patrol, not the fly ins, not the getaways that bring us to 18,000,000 that they admit to. Just the people that the border patrol arrested, 12,000,000, approximately.
Speaker 2:They released 95 to 97% of the 12,000,000, released them into the streets. A million Venezuelans, half a million Haitians, two hundred thousand Russians, two hundred thousand Chinese nationals. With the people that I interviewed with all the alphabets behind their names, you can just figure out who they are. They said that they have identified over 100,000 PLA soldiers in America. Over 200,000 PLAs, Chinese Yes, I have it in my book and I have it citated.
Speaker 2:Listen, I can take not anecdotal. I can take eyewitness testimony from people like Michael Yon and Ruck Maker and all those other guys that have been down the Daring Gap sending me pictures, calling me and saying, dude, it's one soldier after another. Reports of numerous people, same haircut, same clothes, same backpack, same IDs, same tattoos. What do we call those in America? Soldiers.
Speaker 2:I've seen all the videos. Everyone openly admits that China has brought in their military. Why wouldn't they? I do it in my whole chapter in my book about this, talking about what that must have looked like when the generals in China had to brief Xi Jinping. I mean, they had to have been freaking out that there's no way Xi Jinping's gonna believe that our government opened our borders, allowed their soldiers to come in, and then we fly them, educate them, provide food and shelter, and we give them cash money.
Speaker 2:So you don't even CCP have to do anything, you don't have to move supplies. In fact, I want to, I've made this something great to talk about too, is the fact that the marijuana black market is run by the Chinese nationals. Why is that important? Because in Maine, there's two seventy known marijuana plants. In Oklahoma, there's over 3,000 marijuana grows all by international mafia groups with 80% of them are Chinese national criminal organizations.
Speaker 2:Why is that important? Because they're cash crop and they fund all the CCP nefarious stuff in America so CCP doesn't have to wire money in, truck it in, don't have to do anything. How much are we talking about? We're talking about almost $40,000,000,000 a year in marijuana black market that Chinese own. Holy mother of God.
Speaker 2:200 plus thousand special interest aliens, those are terrorists, were arrested and released into America. Two Hundred Thousand. And you go, well, JJ, how do you know that? What do mean how do I know that? The the The Border Patrol arrest data says there are 200 plus special interest aliens.
Speaker 2:All of my friends calling me, sending me pictures of groups of 2,000 in one station on the border of California. Two thousand, here's just one picture, a giant picture. JJ, all these men are from The Middle East and Continent Africa. They're all terrorists, all of them. We're releasing all of them.
Speaker 2:You go to Sean Ryan's podcast and you watch Sarah Adams give the statement, she says, I am telling you with 100% certainty, and she's a terrorist tracker, she wrote The Betrayal of Benghazi, highly, highly intelligent, highly, highly experienced, no one even argues. He says, I'm telling you with 100% certainty that Al Qaeda has at least a thousand of their fighters in America right now. They've already been trained, they're physically outfitted, and they already know what they're gonna do and October 7 was a dry run for America. Sean Ryan had to stop his podcast and say, hold on, You have to say that again. Are you 100% sure?
Speaker 2:I'm 100% sure. Minimum 1,000. I'm telling you, from my experience, all my data, all my research, she's 100% correct, but the number of terrorists are not 200,000. I would bet a year salary it's a million. A million, and when you begin to let me me tell you how this works.
Speaker 2:My son, 13 years old, we have this discussion about terrorism and and the terrorist watch list. What is the terrorist watch list, dad? And I said, it's a document that has the names of known terrorists. He says, so that's all the terrorists in the world. I said, no, Joseph.
Speaker 2:No. That's just what's on the watch list. I said, son, there's 8,000,000,000 people on planet Earth. To assume that there's a document with every single terrorist in there, that means our federal government has gone to every person in the world and vetted them. And he goes, well that's absurd, dad.
Speaker 2:And I said, that's what I'm trying to impose, which I'm trying to explain to you son, the terrorist watch list is just an arbitrary document that just, what do they have, 100,000, two hundred, two million names on it? There's 8,000,000,000 people. I'm looking at 12,000,000 people across the border were identified and released into America with 200,000 tagged as special interest aliens that are terrorists. Our government did this to us, Seth. Seth, I'll go one step further.
Speaker 2:The CBP ICE took a subset of the 12,000,000, of subset of 7,000,000 people and they put them on the non detained docket. All that means is they were deportable and they released them into America. In that information dump, ICE admitted, and this is so grossly inaccurate, but this is what they admitted. That 662,000 and change of that 7,000,000 were criminal aliens and they released them all into America. Inside the 662,000, Seth, 15 thousand were convicted murderers.
Speaker 2:Meaning, I arrested this guy, I enrolled him as a Border Patrol Agent, and the computer says to me, JJ, woah, this guy is a convicted murderer, and what do I do? I release the convicted murderer into America. It gets better. In the 06/2000 the ICE admits to releasing, sixteen thousand were sexual predators. Of the sixteen thousand, between eleven and thirteen thousand were convicted rapists.
Speaker 2:Convicted rapists and we let them in our country. I tell people, you take that 15,000 murders and you take the 16,000 sexual predators and rapists and you spin that up and you multiply it by 100. That's what you have in your country right now at a 50,000,000. You have over a million plus rapists, over a million plus murders. You have millions of gang members.
Speaker 2:You have a million terrorists. You have at least a hundred thousand PLA soldiers. Trend, Aragua. Trump was right. Venezuela dumped their prisons and their insane asylums.
Speaker 2:They're all here. America's never been this vulnerable, Seth, ever in her history.
Seth Holehouse:And so, this this information has to be reaching Trump. So you mentioned before the military and how they need to be using the military and how some people say, oh, okay. Well, you know, we that that's military on our own soil, but, you know, I'm looking at my notes here. I've got a hundred thousand PLA soldiers. Mhmm.
Seth Holehouse:Right? Okay. Right. There you go. Not to mention all the others you mentioned, is the military the only way?
Seth Holehouse:Because to me, that that's when I'm looking at this, I'm thinking, okay. This is a massive operation. Not to mention, It's one thing to arrest, say, Jose the plumber who's here illegally, and he's his family. And he's, you know, probably working hard and under the table to to maintain here and try to, you know, kinda stay hidden. He's not gonna put up a gunfight, But a hundred thousand PLA soldiers that are here as part of a military operation, like, they're not here sightseeing.
Seth Holehouse:They're here as part of a military operation. I'm sure they have massive weapon caches inside the country already. I'm sure. Mhmm. I'm sure you you know that way more than I do.
Seth Holehouse:I'm sure they have communication and comms that we're not accessing, that that they have ways of communicating back with the head base back in Beijing. So do you think these people are just gonna be like, oh, sorry, you know, sorry, commander. The ICE agent came, and he arrested my buddies and I. We were playing mahjong one night. They came in, and so we're gonna go peacefully.
Seth Holehouse:I mean, these are soldiers that are here on a mission. And Mhmm. You don't put soldiers behind enemy lines unless your mission is to, at some point, put that call through your radio system, put that code out that says, okay. It's go time.
Speaker 2:Mhmm. That's all they're waiting for, Seth. And let's I I always like to play this game. The people that I spoke to are wrong, and I'm wrong. So let let's play that I'm 90% wrong.
Speaker 2:Okay. I'll admit. I'm 90% wrong. I'm crazy about the PLA soldiers. That still leaves 10,000.
Speaker 2:You're okay with 10,000 PLA soldiers? I'm saying there's a million terrorists. The government says it's 200,000. Let's say we're all crazy. All of us are crazy.
Speaker 2:200,000. We're 90% wrong. 20,000. You're okay with 20,000 terrorists? Let's say we're 99% wrong.
Speaker 2:You're okay with 2,000 terrorists being in America? Do you see how the absurdity of this gets? Like if you want to argue with me about numbers and then I start to concede, okay, you're right, I fabricated it all, even though I documented ad nauseam in my book, I fabricated it all. Okay, how much did I fabricate? Well, you have to be 90% off.
Speaker 2:Okay, so 10,000 PLA soldiers, you're good with that. And then it's silence, Seth. And look, you have Gordon Chang saying it out loud. You have another person named Brian O'Shea, who's a Chinese expert. And I asked Brian O'Shea, and he was a former embedded analyst in the Special Forces disabled veteran blowing up, I think it was in Afghanistan.
Speaker 2:And he says, JJ, stop thinking of the PLA soldiers as their battalion. And he said exactly what you said. It's gonna be a small group with a sergeant, maybe seven, eight guys. They're not going with suicide vest to blow up. They're going to go in and attack our grid or they're gonna go in.
Speaker 2:I said, tell me what it looks like in real time. He said, okay, JFK Airport, seven o'clock in the morning on a Wednesday, packed thousands of people. 10 guys roam in with their with their AKs or the M4s and they start plinking a thousand. Kill, there's like shooting fish in a barrel. Kill a thousand extract, then another person goes and tears down our electrical grid, then the other person that dilutes the water, he says America will be in chaos.
Speaker 2:They're waiting for their go. Sarah Adams, a thousand Al Qaeda terrorists. She said, those are not ISIS, understand. ISIS will be embedded in them, they'll blow themselves up, but the Al Qaeda are there to kill as many Americans possible, not kill themselves, and she said, all they're waiting for is to go. That's it.
Speaker 2:It's not, well, they're here. No, they're here. Are they outfitted? Yes. Do they have their targets?
Speaker 2:Yes. Then what are they waiting for? And she says, I don't know. But I do know it's just a matter of getting the green light and it's go time. Here's the thing, maybe to show why I'm so frustrated.
Speaker 2:There's no sense of urgency, Seth. Let me give you an example. Maine has two seventy groves that are run by illegal alien Chinese. They've identified them. Where's the DA?
Speaker 2:Where's the state local combination with DA eradicating that? You have 3,000 in Oklahoma, Red State Oklahoma, and they just act like, well, it's just the way that's going to be. You know why they don't want to do anything, Seth? Because they're all heavily armed and it's going to be a freaking bloodbath. So what we do, we just turned a blind eye.
Speaker 2:That's what your government's done. Your government is the our excuse me, our government is the enemy. Our government has allowed this to happen. We are in we're mired in a cesspool of corruption, and it's now which I'm very thankful. You and I talked about this briefly before.
Speaker 2:I I I don't take any joy in being right. I wish I was wrong. However, through Doge and through Donald Trump's executive actions, it has been proven what you and I are discussing is true. It's already been exposed. It's not even, well, JJ, you're a cranky conspiracy theorist talking to to Seth who's a prepper, and he thinks the end times are coming.
Speaker 2:No. No. No. No. No.
Speaker 2:You idiots. It's already been laid out. USAID funded everything. Our government our government gave no money to North Carolina victims. Donald Trump shuts down FEMA.
Speaker 2:FEMA, the COO of FEMA, after the directive to not give any more money to illegal aliens, sneaks out a a check for $56,000,000 for illegal aliens in a hotel in New York City. Fifty Six Million Dollars, how much do you think before Trump was diverted to illegal aliens? And I'll give you that number. It was over $1,000,000,000,000 in four years. Not my numbers, that's the Biden administration.
Speaker 2:God, Seth, we are in dire you have a huge platform with incredible following, a large following, way bigger than mine. If I could just impress upon your audience, I want you to fact check everything that I said, everything I said, and you're going to be shocked to realize that your country has been sold for 30 pieces of silver by traders in our government and we have never ever been this vulnerable ever in the history of America.
Seth Holehouse:Man, which this is this is a really good wake up call because I you know, you see you know, you go on Twitter which is a lot of times the it's the the town square. And what you see is, oh my goodness. They're you know, $20,000,000 was going to, you know, transgender rat, you know, you know, ballerina training and and Uzbekistan. Right? And you have all these things.
Seth Holehouse:It's like, of course. Yeah. But no one's talking about this. And this is again, you know, this is what I try to do. You know, when I'm trying to curate the guests and the content I'm covering, I'm trying to talk about the things that matter.
Seth Holehouse:I'm really trying to. I guess why, you know, you don't look at my thumbnails and see Nancy Pelosi got torn apart or look at Fauci in this hearing, and he got destroyed by Rand Paul. It's just like, it's all kabuki theater. It's all a distraction. Even honestly, I think the whole transgender thing and all that kind of stuff is a giant distraction.
Seth Holehouse:I'm not saying it's false. It's real. But I think what they've done is they they've they've inundated us with problems to try and get people to solve that actually aren't gonna save our country. You may long term, of course, but these are just distractions. It's like if you're an enemy and you're taking over someone's you know, say you're taking over a, you know, a homestead or taking over some sort of, you know, fortified area.
Seth Holehouse:You you you go light the grain stuff on fire. Everyone goes over there, they're all putting putting the fire out. And before you know it, they've got special forces in the in the king's chamber assassinating the king and everything because everyone's distracted over there. And not those aren't real problems, but I just felt that we're our eyes are off the ball. And, you know, the thing is is I I wish someone would just write a book about this.
Seth Holehouse:I wish someone would write a book documenting the treason of these criminals. What do you think, JJ?
Speaker 2:I think that guy is me, and I wrote the book called treason. And, it was it's been a bestseller for the first three weeks out of the first month that it's came out and this is my book. This is a book that I wrote about everything you and I are talking about today and like we talked about the professional validation that I've received from from Doge and from Donald Trump by exposing the USAID, by exposing the NGOs, exposing the the treason of allowing 30,000,000 people into into our nation. Everything I wrote is citated. I have I think like 200 maybe 100 something 162 citations in my book.
Speaker 2:And everything is real. It's it's either what I wrote about is from from a hard line experience researching for my other book, researching this, and doing my documentaries and it's all it's all there and I wish I wasn't writing a book about treason. I wish Joe Biden created Doge and got rid of all the fraud. I wish the left was not the enemy of America. I wish our government was not the premier violator of our trust and destroying our sovereignty, but they're not.
Speaker 2:They are they are traitors, and I'm talking both parties too. Understand the Democrats have done what they've done because the Republicans funded it. Let me just give you one example. Speaker Johnson, Speaker Johnson gave NGOs that he knew were trafficking both adults and children in the first CR under the control of the Republican Party funded the NGOs by $9,700,000,000. And that's for weeks.
Speaker 2:So, you get an understanding of how much the NGOs were making and you want to talk about, I know we're pushing up on time but you're talking about the Kabuki theater of testifying. I went in front of congress and testified in November about child sex trafficking. You want to talk about an absolute waste of my time and how infuriated I was being there. I was making the testimony that right now as you and I are talking, thousands of children, UACs, unaccompanied alien children were being raped. And you know what their response was?
Speaker 2:It looks like we're out of time. We're adjourned. Oh god, get me out of here. Just get I knew then that the people that are running our government are the dumbest people in our population and that we need the very smallest government that we absolutely can endure.
Seth Holehouse:I couldn't agree more. So, JJ, I'll put the link to your book in the description for the show, Treason, bestseller on Amazon. Also, your website, jjcarrell.com, which I'll also put in the link below your last name, c a r r e l l. So jjcarrell.com. I encourage people to check out your website.
Seth Holehouse:You've also got a podcast. I've had you on numerous times before. We have a very an amazing podcast, which I will also put in the description, as well, so people can be watching and listening to your shows. And, yeah, JJ, I I I wish that today's conversation was about, wow. We're in the golden age, and, gosh, I I can walk down the streets of a big city and not smell marijuana and seeing bums pooping everywhere.
Seth Holehouse:And, but, unfortunately, our country is not there yet. It needs some pretty drastic action to clean up. And I I thank you for being out there banging the drum and trying to bring attention to the issues that I think are the but the the greatest threat to our country. It's not transgender rat studies in Uzbekistan. It's it's what's happening right here on our own soil.
Seth Holehouse:So thank you for being here, and thank you for doing what you're doing. And I encourage everyone who's watching, go buy your book. Right? That's one of the best ways people can support what you're doing and and and help get you to the funding to grow and to do the next biggest thing and get more of this information out there is to to support your book. And, I'll be buying it when we finish up with this.
Seth Holehouse:I hope everyone else is doing that as well.
Speaker 2:Thank you very much, Seth. I love our discussions. And one day, I think very soon, if we continue to push that the push the the the envelope, I think we can get our country back. But it's gonna be a battle. We're in for the soul of our our country.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Seth Holehouse:Absolutely. Alright. So I hope that wasn't too heavy of an interview for you, but my perspective is that, look, I wanna know the truth. Okay? If the doctor comes in, he's like, well, I've got good news and bad news.
Seth Holehouse:I say, look, give me the bad news first because I'm gonna figure out how to deal with it, I'll take the good news. Okay? So that discussion, I wouldn't even say it's the bad news. It's just the reality. There's a lot of really good things happening in our country right now.
Seth Holehouse:There's some amazing movements, this massive revitalization towards reviving the values of 1776. However, our country has a lot of enemy combatants in it, and this is just part of the reality of living in America right now is that our country's been under attack for, you know, really since its founding, since 1776. And even before then, we have had foreign enemies looking for ways to infiltrate, dismantle, divide, and ultimately destroy this country. And I think this what we just talked about is one of the biggest ones. Now this is also why I'm writing a book on prepping, which is we're probably I'll I'll keep you updated.
Seth Holehouse:We're kinda putting up the finishing touches. We're just finishing the cover design. We've got some amazing stuff coming you know, that's been coming out with the book prep like Noah, which I'm very excited about because I don't think that we're at a place we can kick our feet back and think, oh, president Trump's gonna take care of things. I actually think that we are in the most precarious time in history since the founding of this country, honestly. I think that the next, like, three, four years are potentially gonna be very ugly.
Seth Holehouse:And I don't look. I'm not a doomsday kind of guy. I've got a lot of hope, but I'm also really, really focused on preparing. That's why one of my big missions is to help people people be prepared. So keep an eye for that book.
Seth Holehouse:But one thing I wanna talk to you about is as it relates to preparedness, something that I overlooked for years is communication. So part of it we look at, if all these terrorist cells, even a couple, if they attack, I can almost guarantee you one of the key things that they're gonna be targeting is our communication infrastructure. So your cell phone, your landline, if you sell a landline, even your Internet, cutting out communication, if you look at war and the manuals of war, it's one of the first things you try to do is if you're attacking an area, you cut the communication out so that people cannot even communicate to each other. Once you do that, it's just divide and conquer. And this is why I'm a huge believer in satellite phones.
Seth Holehouse:And, unfortunately, as I mentioned, this is one of the last things I came to my prepping journey. I made sure I had the food and the water and the medicine and the guns and the bullets and all those other supplies, and just was actually through my my research lately. It kinda hit me. It's like, man, like, I don't have any kind of alternative communication. I've got six different generators, Yet, if the cell towers go, I have no way of communicating.
Seth Holehouse:And so I'm I'm very, very happy to work with satellite phone phone store. The website, s a t one two three. And, honestly, like, if you're someone that has even a little bit of of a concern about being prepared, this is one of the single most important things that you can get. I just got a Bivy stick for my wife and I and a Satphone for us. We've both got them.
Seth Holehouse:They're way more affordable than you'd ever imagine. It's actually think my my satellite phone bill is less than my cell phone bill, every month. So check it out. Go to sat123.com. Again, it's sat123.com, And you even get just a baby stick, which is a little stick you you can use to connect your cell phones too.
Seth Holehouse:So you can actually text even with the cell the cell towers are down. You can still send text messages, access, a map, and a few of the different apps as well. You can get baby sticks on there, you can get like a basic sat phone, which is what I have. Just a basic satellite phone. Because, again, if there is an attack in our country, which unfortunately, like, it's as much I don't wanna be going on that path and thinking about that, why are all these people in our country?
Seth Holehouse:Why are all these terrorists here? Why are all these PLA soldiers here? They're not here to go camping in the Grand Canyon. I'm sorry. Right?
Seth Holehouse:There's some sort of plan that they have that we don't know about. And if I was a guessing man or if I was a betting man, I'd say that there's a good chance that plan involves taking out our communication. So again, SAT one, two, three, get a sat phone, get you can get little Faraday bags, they're EMP proof, Just set it and forget it. Because the one time that you have to something happens, you need to reach your family or reach your kids or whatever it is or call for emergency help. If you have that, it will be a lifesaver.
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