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Get ready to uncover the secret to perfecting your skills! Join JClay and Troy Washington as they reveal the mysterious ways of "But HOW Did You Know?" in our episode on Perfect Mode. Don't miss out on the key to unlocking greatness - your success depends on it!
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"Perfect Mode" invites you on a transformative odyssey to discover the extraordinary within the ordinary. Hosted by the dynamic duo of JClay, a rapper with a spiritual twist, and Troy Washington, a realtor with a mindset of abundance, this podcast is a sanctuary for those seeking to elevate their existence. Together, they explore the realms of personal growth, mental clarity, and spiritual enlightenment, offering unfiltered insights into living a life unchained by societal expectations. Tune in for your weekly dose of inspiration and embark on a journey to align with your highest self.
If I reminded you that you are perfect, would you argue me down or step into your perfection? Welcome to perfect. Welcome to perfect. Welcome to perfect. Where there are no excuses, no Perfect.
Troy Washington:Welcome to perfect mode. Welcome to perfect mode. And first off, let me start by telling y'all that we love y'all. We're grateful for the opportunity to be anywhere sharing our thoughts, hopefully, in helping you realize that you are perfect. And the reason why I can say that unapologetically is because I know that you are you.
Troy Washington:You are 1 on 1. You cannot be duplicated, replicated. And the only reason and I mean, the only reason you would think that you are not perfect is if you're looking at this person on the side of you and saying, I'm not them. But guess what? You are you, and that's all you need.
Troy Washington:And, of course, it's yours truly. Troy Washington, your friendly neighborhood realtor, and I have my boy, J Clay, spiritual rapper and teacher, and we're about to jump on here and talk about it. You know what? But how did you know? How did you know, Jay?
Troy Washington:What up, Jay? How? What
JClay:up? Happy day. Happy Sunday. Happy beautiful Sunday on this perfect day. It's the perfect day for this topic, perfect day for all of this.
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JClay:It's in the link. 1 one of them places down there up there and support your boys. And, yeah, let's let's just jump right in.
Troy Washington:So so, you know, of course, a million things go through my mind, but how did you know? Because how did you know? But I wanna know what were your thoughts with this topic when you first saw it?
JClay:Yeah. So, okay. So how, I don't even know if how was the right word, but it's more like, okay. We know things. Right?
JClay:There there are things we know, but there's also things that we're taught that other people know, but we we don't accept it as as knowledge. Like, we like, I don't know about that, But the things we know we go full force on because we know it. And it's almost like, how do we know that? So that we could reverse engineer it to know the things that we want to know. Like we want to know that we're confident, confident.
JClay:We want to know that we're happy and joyful. We wanna know that we can do anything we set our minds to. And it's like, how can we, how can we use what we know to shift that knowingness to the things that we wanna know? That's not necessarily knowledge based as far as information, but, like, qualities. You know what I mean?
Troy Washington:Yeah. So, you know, the funniest thing about this this whole intro of it, the thing that comes to my mind, and I know that you felt this before is that, somebody have come to you and told you something about yourself that you might have had an inkling about, but you was like, for real? And you and and you kinda have this moment of reflection of trying to realize, what they're talking about. Like, well, how do you even see that in me? Where where did you see me?
Troy Washington:When did I ever do something? And you will even sometimes go as far to tell people such and such said this about me. You what you think about that? The crazy thing is, again, just trying to do what you said, realize something that you you the reality is you always know these things anyway. Yeah.
Troy Washington:You know, like I said, it's been times where somebody came and told me something about myself, and it's somewhere in the back of my mind, it's just been kind of dwelling and I never wanted to own up to it because either I didn't believe it. I didn't know how to make it true or or whatever the case be. But I'm with you though. Go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Yeah. Yeah. And and it's it's it's amazing because like, if we really think about the things that we know or we wholeheartedly accept this truth, we go full fledged in it. We go full fledged on it. Like, I always bring up when I was little in Santa Claus.
JClay:I knew Santa Claus was real, and nothing was gonna stop me from getting presents from Santa Claus like nothing. And then when I didn't know Santa Claus was real, I knew Santa Claus wasn't real and nothing was gonna stop me from getting presents from my parents. Like, it just but but in both cases, even though the the object of, of my knowledge of my knowing changed that core essence didn't and it ordered my steps in such a way that I was, I was still able to go forth in a way that I wanted to. But again, it, it, but it, but it's, but it's just a matter of of knowledge. It's just a matter of knowing, with everything.
JClay:It is is how do we hack into that?
Troy Washington:And so so funny thing about the whole presence thing, the the the the real thing, I guess, in a sense was the presence. It wasn't neither Santa Claus nor not Santa Claus. But I think the thing that I I think the question that we're asking then is how do you I had it on the tip of my tongue, man. Yeah. Like, I I I know it's not how did you know it's more of how do you make it real, I guess, in a sense.
Troy Washington:I mean, you know, how do you make oh, go ahead.
JClay:Well, so so so it's a slight difference because how do you make it real? You're already accepting that it's not real and I have to make it real, but with knowing like, you don't even think about like the stuff, you know, you don't think about it. You don't question it. You wouldn't debate it with anybody. You would just, you just, you just step into it.
JClay:I mean, sometimes it might come from practice. It, it, it could come from others, like you said, telling you something about yourself and enough people said it that now you believe it and you know it, but do you know it? You, you know, like there's a difference between belief and knowing.
Troy Washington:I think that we like to operate in the space of doubt so that way we can have the sense of overcoming things. I think that's a big part of this whole thing too because again, I've had somebody come and tell me something about myself that I think I know. And I and I and I wanna believe that it's it to be true. But then I'm also like in a moment like, oh, really? And it the the I guess the craziest part about it is my steps are stunted.
Troy Washington:Because what you're saying is if you 100% wholeheartedly believe something, you kinda just walk into it. Like, I'm gonna go get a cup of water. I know that the water's there. And if for whatever reason, the water's not there when I get there, I'm a be like, oh, oh, oh my god. But it's like I'm like, oh my god.
Troy Washington:Before I even get my chances, a a a self a chance to go and walk, to go do whatever it is that I'm saying. And, you know, it's been plenty of times where somebody's told me that I was a music genius. Right? And I was like, really? You could make you could make but though I've been making music my entire life, they've seen me make music.
Troy Washington:I've seen myself make music. There's still a level of doubt, which in in since it hinders me from moving or going as far as I want to in the realm that I wanna go in, but go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Yeah. Yeah. Like so so check this out. Like, today, when I when I was playing basketball, the the first game I played, like, I I just wasn't I wasn't missing. It was like a quick little 2 and 2 warm up.
JClay:I was hitting everything, which was cool. But in the second game, we're playing 5 on 5. And my team, it had a lot of better shooters than me. But for whatever reason, like, people weren't really shooting and and stuff. So I stepped into it knowing, like, you know what?
JClay:I'm the man on this team, and I just started doing stuff. I was missing. But for me doing that, it clicked for them. Like, no. I'm the man on this statement and all the people who normally hit the the threes when they got it, they were they were making it.
JClay:And I I say that to to say that, like, even even if you miss your shots and stepping into your knowing, like, there's something magical about about just knowing. Like, I didn't even question it. I didn't I didn't question, like, will they think I'm the man? Will I, you know, will they respect me if I admit like, none of that was in my head. It was just like, I'm the man in this moment.
JClay:Give me the ball. And it and now and I'm kinda answering my question because, like, there was really no thought into it except just step into that awareness. And and I guess maybe that's is that the key, like, knowing which awareness to step into?
Troy Washington:So no. No. So okay. So this is what comes to my head too when I think about the family dynamic. Right?
Troy Washington:So for anybody that's listening to this for the first time, of course, I'm married, and I have 2 kids. I have a 12 year old and 6 year old. And there's this dynamic dynamic. You don't even have to have kids in order to know this. If you are were a kids at some point and you had family in your house, there's a family dynamic that people kinda exude.
Troy Washington:And I'm just gonna throw on the father hat real quick. Right. There was never a time where we sat down in our house and said, whenever dad says something, this is the way that it have to be. And whenever mom says something, we just you know, we it that's that's never been a thing that has ever happened in my house. Right?
Troy Washington:Nor did it happen when I grew up because my dad wasn't necessarily there. I didn't grow up with my dad in the house. But the funniest thing is regardless if I grew up in the house with my dad there or not, my dad owned the fact that he was a father. Like, I'm a daddy. This is who I am.
Troy Washington:And my mom in a in turn on the fact that she was the nurturer. You know what I mean? It's just kinda how things go. And there was always this sense of whenever I went around my dad, the the amount of reverence that I have from him was more like a, oh, I better be careful with what I'm doing. Right?
Troy Washington:And so when I think about that in my own house, again, Charnay disciplines the kids just like I discipline the kids. Right? She's a nurturer more than me, of course, because I'm just I'm always gonna give that kind of that more of a tough approach to things to to to toughen them up. But, nonetheless, whenever things go wrong, they because I'm wearing wearing the father, I'm the dad, they have that sense of reverence that I have for my dad. Like, oh, man.
Troy Washington:I better not mess up with him. Or when he says something, I better be quiet about that. And you're right. There is a there is a a power in owning whatever your essence is, whether it's on a basketball court, whether it's in a house. It just it helps everybody else set into the dynamic that they feel like they wanna be in as well.
Troy Washington:Go ahead, Jay.
JClay:I'm laughing because that that was that was definitely apparent in my household. My my mom might say something, but why? What'd your mother
Troy Washington:say? And then
JClay:I shut up. But yeah, but yeah, but it's, it's, but, but even like I've seen mom step into that, you know what I mean?
Troy Washington:Like we're talking though.
JClay:And so we, we all possess that quality. Even as kids, we've stepped into that at certain points. And it's almost like, what is that? It it's like you're, you're so sure of yourself that nothing else can stand opposing to it. Like, it's just like, this is how it is.
JClay:I'm here. And again, like if, if we think about it, that's the key to everything we wanna do. It's just having that that no nonsense truth about it or knowledge about it. Like, even even if things don't go according to plan, that shouldn't change your how you feel about it. That shouldn't change your knowledge.
JClay:Like, no. I know that I'm going to do this.
Troy Washington:Now and I'll tell you one other thing before we actually get into the how do you do that or how did you do that is that sense of walking into a room full of people that you don't know. And, again, I know I've experienced I've actually been with you when I've experienced it before as well. There was this one time we were at TCC. We were at a, we were at a convention for a childhood development. Shouts out to him loud.
Troy Washington:We appreciate you joining us today. And, we walked into we were at a college, and this woman walks in that was going to speak to us. Now at the time, I don't think that we knew she was gonna speak to us, but she walked in and she commanded a prison. She commanded an attention. And it's kinda like we were all kinda glued to her looking at her the entire time when she was getting prepared or whatever.
Troy Washington:And then the moment she started to speak, really didn't matter what
JClay:she said. She could have said
Troy Washington:boogie, boogie, boogie, boogie, boogie, boogie, boogie, boogie, boogie,
JClay:boogie, right? But we literally were believers in whoever this is coming to speak is the speaker. Right? And and and
Troy Washington:I've been at places before when somebody came in and I didn't feel the same. And I think that's a trip that's attributed to that person owning their space, owning that aura, owning that and that's what I think we're talking about when we say, how do you know or how did you know is that whenever you decide to take a step, are you walking like this step is my step? No matter what it is. And, you know, it's, a a tricky thing, especially when you're traveling down a path that you've never traveled down before. Go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Yeah. And and we actually see it. I mean, we're in hip hop music. Like, we see it in hip hop all the time where the lyrics might not be that strong of lyrics, but the the person saying it, they have that that knowing. They'd have that command like, I'm it.
JClay:Whatever I'm saying goes. And and the line could be the corniest line if you just took it and just wrote it down. But because they said it with such reverence, it's it's just like yeah. They commanded that attention. And and, again, it didn't matter what they said.
JClay:You just listen.
Troy Washington:Bro, no lie. There's a new I I don't wanna even say that he's a new artist. There's a artist that I just found out about. His name is La Russell, and he's from, California, like the bay and stuff. Right?
JClay:Yeah.
Troy Washington:And the funniest thing was I came across him on a TikTok clip. And when I saw him, I made a judgment. Of course, I looked at him and I'm like, ah, this he looked goofy. You know what I mean? It just it's just kinda one of those things.
Troy Washington:And then I heard him, and I was like, man. Now the the the the the funniest part about it is he doesn't necessarily have what I feel like is a strong voice. You know what I mean? Like, he has one of those, like, DJ Quik voices or something Yeah. Chilling at the crib and the like like that.
Troy Washington:Right? But the the thing is to your point, the way it comes out of him is like, I own this. And so I literally became a fan of his. Just that fans because he's acting like he knows that I'm his fan. Do you know what I'm saying?
Troy Washington:I got I feel like he knows that I'm his fan. And, to the point that we're making, like, it doesn't matter what somebody might perceive or what you think people perceive because a part of us not, you know, acting like we know or stepping into things the way that we feel like we should step into them is the perceived what we perceive other people might think. But it's not doing it in the sense of being beneficial to us. Like, I literally think that he thinks that whoever listens to me is my fan no matter what. Yeah.
Troy Washington:And I think that's, a a stark difference in, you know, trying to get over that hump or not. Go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Yeah. Napoleon Hill, he's he's the author of, like, Think and Grow Rich and other things. He studied successful people. He had a book called Law of Success, and one of the chapters was called enthusiasm. And he he he he devoted a lot to enthusiasm and saying that anybody who wants to be a speaker in any way or a seller of anything, you have to have enthusiasm when you speak.
JClay:And I, and I think that's one of the, the key things too, that we're touching on that. Even that, that rapper has that, yeah. All rappers should have, even us, if we came on here, like you gotta be confident about what you do and you gotta be strong in it.
Troy Washington:Like even
JClay:though I'm saying things that are true, nobody would listen. Nobody would even care because I'm not speaking with enthusiasm. And and so it so in some instances, well, really in in all instances, it's more about the energy than it is even what you're saying. It it's more about that that that that that resonance or that vibration that you're bringing out more than the the actual terms you're speaking. Now I wanna add something to that.
JClay:Terms you're speaking. Now I
Troy Washington:wanna add something to that because I'm what I consider a loud talker. You know what I'm saying? I'm I some people say that I'm aggressive when I talk. Yeah. But I don't want it to be because I have a 6 year old.
Troy Washington:Right? And he kinda has somewhat of a shy approach. You know what I mean? Like, Brody is not, like, aggressive like me. But the the beauty of it is when he talks, it's not even more about the enthusiasm of it.
Troy Washington:It's about the love in his words, I guess I was I should say. Because when he says he likes basketball or he does this and he does that, there is a bit of excitement, but there's also a sincere touch to it. You know what I mean? Like, and and to the point where when he does like, you will wonder why everybody is just kinda paying attention to this kid all the time is because he means what he says, and he says what he means. Of confidence whether you are, you know, extra like me when it comes to, you know, being aggressive with your speech or loud or, you know, things like that.
Troy Washington:But when you have a level of confidence and really me like, I told you, he tells me all the time he can beat me in basketball, and I'm like, bro, you can't beat me in basketball. I'm bigger than you. I'm older than you. But in his mind, because I haven't played him until I beat him, he like, to me, man. Trust me.
Troy Washington:I can beat you. Go
JClay:ahead. Yeah. To to that, there there's something in in speaking when you have something to say. Like we've all been around people who speak just for the sake of speaking and they might not realize it, but the, the seeds that they're sowing are the, their word isn't as powerful as it could be. So like you said, with, with your, with your son, like when he speaks people listen because, you know, oh, he doesn't speak that often.
JClay:And when he does, he really has something to say. He he he he has something with meaning to it. And sometimes when people just I I don't wanna say waste words because it's it's there's no real such thing as wasting words. But when you knowingly speak without the power behind it or without the the true conviction of it, you lessen the power of your word so that you in the Bible, there's a quote. You can say to the mountain, move, and the mountain will move.
JClay:It will obey if you have that much faith in what you're speaking. And sometimes and I think enough of us don't always speak with faith all the time. And and I'm I'm I'm guilty of that too, or I have been guilty of that. And after this episode, a change will be made.
Troy Washington:And so, you know, I guess that's kind of where we get to. How do you even get to that? You know, a lot of people might say and again, I always like to use my kids as an example. You know, with TJ, when we get into a game, I tell him just go have fun and play because we've done all the work. So he can he can go out and play with the amount of confidence, our hope, that he needs in order to be successful.
Troy Washington:But a lot of times, we don't get to walk around and I mean, you could, but, I mean, most people don't walk around experiencing new thing and practicing them before they got up because it wouldn't necessarily be a new thing or stepping into a new arena if you had never been there before because how do you practice that? And, you know, I think that, you know, one of the first steps is also starting to build up that self confidence in yourself and letting yourself know that anything is possible because I think that a lot of times when we, you know, walk a path that we never walked before, step into an arena that we've never been in before, the first thought that comes across our mind is, man, this is going to be hard. This is going to be challenging. I don't know if I can do this. All of these self talk things that we've been practicing that more than we've been practicing the confidence talk things, and it puts us in a at a, behind the ball when we when we, you know, step into something new.
Troy Washington:Go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Yeah. And to your point, we, we really can't be afraid to step into situations we've never been in before. Fortunately, I I've had many experiences with that growing up against my will. I, you know, I didn't want to be in these situations, but fortunately my parents are like, nah, you go on, you going to do this, you going to experience this. And in those moments you learn a lot about yourself, because like you'll find yourself in an environment where you don't know anybody.
JClay:And all of them know each other and it's like, okay, how, how I'm gonna navigate this? How am I gonna express myself? How am I gonna just do these things? And you learn, you know what I mean? It's, it's practicing.
JClay:You, you find out like, oh, okay. I'm, I'm better than I thought I was. I'm, I'm, I'm smarter than, than I thought. Like it, it, and it's those experiences that give us the experience to really experience who we are and without them, we would just just be stuck in our head all the time.
Troy Washington:You know, the thing that comes to my mind is not worrying about the outcome. Right? Not worrying about what the outcome is going to be. Trip until Louisiana. And when we were on our way back, we we were trying to get back because I was when I was dating at the time, the girl I was dating wanted to try out to be in the play.
Troy Washington:On our way back, we were gonna get back just in enough time so that way she can try to audition for this play. And she was afraid to do it. And so I was like, well, shoot, I'll just go audition with you as well. But I I wasn't trying to get into play. It was no I didn't care about the outcome of what was gonna go down.
Troy Washington:Right? And but I I kind of did it so that way she could have the courage to go and do it herself. And funny enough, we go and try out that morning, and I make the play. Like, and I had to literally turn them down and they they were mad at me like, why did you even come and audition for this if you weren't trying to get it? And I told him why I did and they were like, okay, well that's cool, but Diana's messed up.
Troy Washington:Now the crazy thing is she didn't make the play. But I think that a part of that was because she was so focused on the outcome not being what she thought it was gonna be. It hindered her performance. Rise out of the people, right? It was it was just kind of free.
Troy Washington:And I think that, you know, you can say that it was a natural talent or anything like that, but I honestly think that it's just because I wasn't afraid of not being able to get it. Go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Yeah. I love that. Cause I mean, it's true. Like when we are, when we aren't afraid of the outcome, we can have fun with it. We can try things we've never tried because it doesn't matter anyway.
JClay:Let's do it. And in reality, life doesn't matter anyway. We we make it a way too serious. We make every little thing the most serious thing ever. Like, oh, this is important.
JClay:If this opportunity if it this doesn't work out, my world's gonna end. I'm gonna die and just all these other things. And, yeah, we we we should have that freedom to to have fun in life and experience fun and just do what we wanna do and not take ourselves too seriously. I I I love that you brought that reminder into this.
Troy Washington:It did I don't know if you even remember. Do you remember that, though? Yeah. I remember. Okay.
Troy Washington:You remember that? Yeah. But, another thing, you know, also reinforcing that same thought into other people. And, again, I always try to bring my family because, you know, perfect most of my life is what I live, and I just kinda regurgitate what's going on. But this, you know, anybody that knows me knows my son is a basketball player.
Troy Washington:Now you see how I just defined him, and that's just kinda what it is. Well, a couple weeks ago when school started, he was like well, I I ain't gonna say a couple weeks. Last week, he was like, dad, I wanna try out for the football team. And I was like, alright, cool. Now in my mind, I'm like, we haven't practiced no football.
Troy Washington:Now this is me worrying about the outcome more than anything. Right? And he was just like, I'm a try out for it. I was like, okay, cool. So he goes and tries that for the football team last week, which was on Tuesday.
Troy Washington:And oh, no, it was on Monday. And, after when I picked him up from school that day, I was like, say, you know, how how the trial is going? He said, I think it went good. He said, think it went good. He said, I guess he was watching.
Troy Washington:He's like, I think some of the other kids dropped about the same amount of balls as me. And I was like, okay, cool. And I was like, well, how many kids tried it out? And he said, 40. And I said, how many make the team?
Troy Washington:And he said, 19, but 15 of the spots are already taken up because of returning players. And I was like, okay, cool. And so what I was able to say in that moment was what makes life interesting is trying. Right? And I can live with you not Right?
Troy Washington:And I could live with you not making the team, but I cannot live without you not trying. And then I went on to tell him a story about me trying something that, like, that's currently going on in my life that I won't speak on yet, but, care what the outcome of it is. I'm just going to see what they say. Right? And I was like, but the thing that you can hang your hat on is that you went out there, you had fun.
Troy Washington:And regardless of what goes on, you know, you tried your best. He was like, yeah, cool. And then lo and behold, guess what? He made the team. He played his 1st football games this weekend, and he never played, you know, like that before on, you know, organized team like this.
Troy Washington:So it was it's pretty cool that him himself not being tied to the expectation of what potentially could happen helped him to excel and get to where he wanted to be, and now he's having a ball with it.
JClay:Yeah. What's funny okay. So it's it's 2 coincidences here. Today on the basketball court, we're on the side, because, you know, people have sons and stuff, and we were talking about, like they're putting their kids in football. And I was saying, I was like, man, I'm not gonna lie.
JClay:Football toughened me up. I was soft before football. And then once I played, even though I probably was, I wasn't a star player, it toughened me up and it made my basketball game better just because I wasn't afraid of contact anymore. And then, and then on my drive home, I was kind of reminiscing because like at the end of the game, everybody just started jumping on me, following me. Because we were playing like people that were shorter and I was just playing bully ball.
JClay:And I was just thinking about like the irony, how life flipped. Like there was a time if people would have did that to me on the court as a kid, I probably would have been crying or something like, file file. Now I embrace it. It's like, yeah, yes. You going to have to file me, you know?
JClay:And it's, and it is amazing, but it's cause again, you're willing to put yourself in situations that you've never been in before. And it's funny too. So it's like in the not knowing, you know, yourself, which is very interesting how that all works.
Troy Washington:Man, something in there and I can't get to it, but the not knowing Again, I'm I'm a I'm a I'm a rewind and say not being tied to an outcome, number 1. Like, whether I make it or not, the experience of this is worth it. The experience of whatever it is I'm wanting to do is worth it. If I never got up and got a cup of water, me walking from my bed to the kitchen, filling the floor, filling the air, just the whole experience of it is worth it, whether I get water or not. And I think that is a great thing.
Troy Washington:But also understanding that regardless of the outcome, the experience teach teaches me how to do it differently next time. And that's whether I get it or not because the reality of it is even though my son made the team, he also knows how to be better in another tryout again. He also knows how to, how to approach it from a standpoint of just being free. You know, all of these things matter in in, in helping, you know, what's really real. Go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Yeah. Something you brought up reminds me of a, a little nugget that Abraham Hicks said on their channel, which was when you go on vacation, right After your vacation, you come back home. So you start home, you end home. And if you, if it's all, if it's about the ending, why go on vacation at all? Why not just stay home?
JClay:Because you're gonna end up home anyway. But no, it, like you said, it's about the experience and it is the experiences that allow us to, again, to know. So like, how, how do we know that we could we're capable of something? We just put ourselves in an experience to, to try it out, to, to just see, and I, I, again, it's, it's one of those oppositions playing forth. Like again, the, the, the not knowing of something allows you to know yourself because that's when I really knew me the most when I was in an environment where I didn't know anything about anything.
Troy Washington:So that brings me to the, oh, no, go, go, no, go ahead, go ahead.
JClay:Because that, because when I think about it, that's the, that's the anchor. So, okay. We always lean on what we know. Right. So like if I'm in my house, I know that, you know, the air, the AC is on this or the habits.
JClay:I know the habits of my wife or something, but when you, when you're somewhere you don't know, you are the, you are who you lean on because you're the only one that you do know. And so if you wanna know yourself, go somewhere, change environments. But, yeah, go ahead. Go ahead.
Troy Washington:No. So, and and that's a whole nother thing, because I'm gonna tell you meditate too. Like, give yourself a little time to know yourself. But to that point, there is a knowing this. Like, how did you know?
Troy Washington:You have to know that you won't experience the experience. You have to know that. You have to know that you want to experience the experience and not be tied to the outcome. I mean, that I think that's the biggest piece of this. And I think that we get lost sometimes not that we want to know what this experience is.
Troy Washington:We don't even think about that because you're right. We only look at the end result or what we're trying to get get to even from the standpoint of me being a real estate broker. I know what goal I want to accomplish in this, and that's what I'm always pointed toward. I'm always that's the first thing that's on my mind. And the smallest piece of it is the pathway that I gotta travel because the pathway that I gotta travel feels like it's the heavy heaviest load to bear.
Troy Washington:But, you know, the funny thing is when I was at my grandmother's funeral the other day, I was talking to my little cousin, and he didn't come into the to the, the the church when we were, you know, doing, you know, the the service or whatever. But I got up and I spoke, I cried, you know, And he told me afterwards, he said, hey, Troy. I know I didn't come in, but I heard you. And a part of what I was saying was being strong enough to keep on going. Right?
Troy Washington:And he said, but I've been going through so much. And the words that came out of my mouth, though not my own, is just that's what makes life interesting. And we forget that. We forget that all the hurdles, all the obstacles that we gotta try to overcome are the things that we talk about the most in life. They're the things that we look the least forward to going through, but they're the most prominent things that we love to talk about and we love to use as a tool to uplift others and not even realizing that it's a tool for you to uplift yourself.
Troy Washington:Like, those experiences are everything. That's our cash. Go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Yeah. Mate, and sometimes too, though, we're being reactive to life. So we talk about those hurdles instead of being proactive and talk about the the experiences we want to have. They like you said, the the the opportunities we wanna create for ourselves. And if we start talking about them more, like we in a way we talk ourselves into those opportunities because people hear us talk about it so many times when they need to think of somebody, oh, Troy can do that.
JClay:Troy. Yeah. Troy said he's, he's stepping into being a, a motivational speaker. He's he's done this. He speaks about it all the time.
JClay:So of course, if I need a motivational speaker, I'm going to Troy and, and, and sometimes we get caught up in the, what we've been through because we're being reactive, but now I've switched that. Like, you know what you wanna experience or or even if even if you've never experienced, you know what you wanna try to experience, speak on it.
Troy Washington:You know? So and this is what is this makes me think about it because this is something that I got from you. If I say that I wanna be a peaceful per person, how can I know that I'm peaceful if I haven't experienced anything that helped me to choose peace? Right? And so, you know, I don't know what any or what any person is choosing to be their pathway.
Troy Washington:But what I do know is whatever it is and and I think that's the biggest part of this is trying to identify these things is not as a hindrance. Changing the our perception or the way we perceive the things that we go through because we look at them from a negative slant. And then that's what in turn dictates the way that we talk about them. See, you don't have to wear those things like a badge of honor. You can use them as a stepping stool to growth, right?
Troy Washington:And so I think that, you know, if you say, well, hey, My life is crazy because I keep going through this, or you can say my life has been a challenge, but it allowed me to be peaceful. And these are the ways that I was able to find peace because I was able to see what it didn't look like. You know? And I I think that's a a big part of it. I think that we have to really allow the things that we go through not to to the experience has to be everything.
Troy Washington:That's how you know. Like, I don't I don't know good or bad. You know, we we say that all the time. It's no good. It's no bad.
Troy Washington:It's just things. And if you can look at life that then it, it kinda changes the dynamic of everything. That's how you end up knowing. Go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Yeah. And I, I had a epiphany earlier this week, which kind of plays to this. So I was thinking like, like, okay. You know, I, I love wisdom, right? Like I, I might seek wisdom.
JClay:I like hearing like very wise thoughts and I'm, I'm like Solomon was a cool character to me in the Bible because he had parables and stuff. So like oftentimes nowadays, people will say to me, J Clay, you're very wise. You you're full of wisdom. You everything you say just sounds like it's coming out of a wisdom book. But the truth is, it it's not so much that I'm wise.
JClay:And I'm not denying that either. It's that that's the, the lens and the vibration I hold up. That's the mirror I hold. Because me personally, I think that every conversation is full of wisdom. I think that everyone has something wise to say.
JClay:And since I'm holding that up, all the person can see as a reflection is the wisdom that's coming out of their mouth. And so they are crediting it to me because they've never heard themselves through that lens. I've seen themselves through that lens or through that mirror. And because of it, it it's like that. So I say this to say that what we want to know if we hold that mirror to everyone and apply that to everyone and say, everyone is this, everyone is great.
JClay:Everyone is peaceful. It changes the dynamic. And so they can step into that piece. And of course they're going to say, oh man, you know, Troy is so peaceful. J clay is so peaceful, but no, no, no.
JClay:We're just holding that lens to allow you to experience it. And so it's really you that you always see anyway. And so if you want to again, so yeah, that man, if you want to know something, apply it to everyone.
Troy Washington:We'll go ahead. So, you know, I I've said this many times over and over on perfect mode. The the the thing that changed my life was being able to tell everybody that they're great Because I was able to see the greatness in myself because of that, because I allowed myself. I allowed it to be a truth for me as well. But again, to your point and to what you're saying, like, about your wisdom, along with you seeing the wisdom in other people, you were able to use that same lens and look at every because it's not like you had a life devoid of things that you went through.
Troy Washington:You went through everything. You went through a lot of stuff like every everybody else. And there might be somebody that gone through the identical things that you've gone through, but the lens by which they're looking at themselves does not allow them to pull the wisdom out that you're being able to regift to other people. Part of even using that lens on other people is using it on yourself being able to look at yourself and say, hey, this is not bad. This is necessary.
Troy Washington:This is not negative. This is positive. Like, that is a big piece of the puzzle. Like, being able to rectify within yourself that it was worth going through for me to see what I see today. And and and I think that's where we miss it a lot of times because it most people don't look at themselves or others through that lens.
Troy Washington:You you're not gonna look at others through that lens. You're not looking for yourself through that lens either. And so now there's a big domino effect that allow allows you to stay where you claim to be, which is the bottom. But I know people that don't have anything but the most joyous people in the world. They don't, you know, they look at things from what you would think is a positive standpoint and you can't even understand it because you're judging when you look at them tell you these things.
Troy Washington:Like and so, you know, I think that you you you wearing that lens on yourself is very important as well. Go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Yeah. And and and those that you that you said, like, have nothing, they don't see it that way. They see themselves as having everything. And because they see themselves as having everything, like they really do. And that man, that's man, that's, that's a word right there too.
JClay:Like, I don't know if I've ever just seen myself as having everything and it's like, why not? Why not see others as having everything? And then like, because you, you, we, we don't, we might not consciously know this, but we know this like that. We aren't separate from the people in the environment we're in. You know what I mean?
JClay:Like, we, we think it's normal to have 2 arms because the majority of people have 2 arms. And so like, if the majority of people in your eyes have certain qualities, you automatically adopt them because it's like, you, you can't be apart from it. You're you're in the mix of it. And, and so it's, it's important to big up everyone in your environment because now, even if let's say even if you felt inadequate in their presence, it doesn't matter. You're still surrounded by the greatest people ever.
JClay:So you're gonna be happy. Like, man, this is, this is my friend. This is my family member. This is whoever. This is the people I get to talk to and interact with on a on a daily basis.
JClay:This is my neighbor, this amazing person. And you'll look up and you'll just be happy for no reason because you've, you've imparted that lens on everything. You've sowed all those seeds around you that blossomed into this beautiful world.
Troy Washington:Look, bro. In my house, it's a own it's a ongoing somewhat of a joke. Like, every time a birthday comes up for me, everybody in the house is trying to figure out what to give me because I always tell them my thing because I have everything. Every single time. And even so much so that even, I think it was a birthday ago.
Troy Washington:I think it's my oldest. He's gonna say he said out loud, like, I know you're gonna you're gonna say all you want is us. So we're not even gonna ask you. And I'm like, yeah. You're right.
Troy Washington:And so I what we always do around my birthday is we might go and do something for everybody. Like, we, you know, go outside and, you know, we jumped on a trampoline 1 year. 1 year, we just sat down and watched the movie. But it's just we all played the video games together because I always try to reinforce that it doesn't take anything extra for me to be happy. It doesn't take anything extra for you to be happy.
Troy Washington:I know they're different than me now because they're still kids. They're gonna want things. But I hope that, in the long run, they're able to look within themselves and say, well, shoot. What I have is enough. You know what I mean?
Troy Washington:And I mean, everything else is just icing on the cake. But but to your point, you're absolutely right, man. Like, looking at yourself and saying that I have everything makes you have everything. It allows you the freedom to
JClay:be happy. It allows you
Troy Washington:the freedom to see more. Really? Because sometimes we get tunnel vision when we start feeling like we're missing something and we all, we forget about everything around us and only see that one thing. But go ahead, Jay.
JClay:That that's a good point you made. I, and I never thought about it like that, where you're living the life you wanna live. And so when you're living the life that you wanna live, you're happy. It is nothing extra that needs to happen or be brought in. Now that that's not saying that you're denying extra things from coming in because you're happy to accept those too.
JClay:But when you're living the life that you wanna live, like every you don't, yeah. You, you don't need that extra stuff. So oftentimes the things we buy or the, the things we get, we think is gonna make us happy. Like, oh, I'll be happy if I had that. And it's like, nah, I'll be happy first.
JClay:So that no matter what happens, it just adds to it. It's just it's just an addition. It's just a summation and it it it's like a ball of light that just grows and grows and grows until you look up. Now everything is like
Troy Washington:And to that point, man, like, man, it's funny. I just saw something on TikTok, funny enough. And, you know, it was a guy, he was talking about, you know, you see all these things and you think that they're gonna make you happy. But if you feel like you have to get something in addition to make you happy, then you're not really happy anyway. So, you know, I definitely something I keep with me and I try to show that to my kids.
Troy Washington:Again, I don't expect the kid to not want anything for their birthday. Trust me. I know. I I don't I don't not expect the kid to want presents for Christmas. Right?
Troy Washington:But nonetheless, every time it's asked of me, I I always say the same. No. I don't want anything because I have everything. I have everything. And they be like, well, you know, you you don't want no new and I have everything.
Troy Washington:And then whenever I do get something, I just tell them how happy I am that they've been a part of my life and, you know, those type of things. But again, just, the the reality of it is, even though I'm trying to teach them something at the same time, it's a sense of freedom for me. You get what I'm saying? Because we all fall victim to the want. We all do.
Troy Washington:We all fall victim to the want. But whenever you really tell yourself you don't want anything, it's so freeing. It's so you know what I'm saying? Again, I'm not telling people to go after what they don't want, but not having that expectation just like having an expectation on the results is such a freeing thing to allow you to be at peace that you can't even describe. Go ahead, Jay.
JClay:So so check this out. Like, the one only matters when you're not in that being. So for example, last week, I was I was in my house. I was thinking, I was like, man, I need this. I gotta get that.
JClay:I need to figure out how to, like, manifest a bunch of money real quick. And so but but it was so much going in my head. I was like, no. I forget this. I'm going outside because outside in nature, I take my walks.
JClay:I clear my mind. Like everything is peaceful, beautiful. So the funny thing happened when I was outside, I got to that peaceful place and I said, oh, now was, here's the time for me to, to think about how to manifest and stuff. I didn't want to, it was, it was like, I dropped down in vibration. I would have to drop down in vibration to do that because in this, the space that I was in, I don't need anything.
JClay:Like I'm, I'm here. I'm where I want to be. I'm where I'm supposed to be right now. And everything is perfect. And after that walk, it just carried on with me.
JClay:Like, I I didn't have a second thought about anything and I continued being happy.
Troy Washington:So I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you a question, but how did you know? How did you know? You get what I'm saying?
JClay:Yeah.
Troy Washington:And I think that's what we're trying to get to the bottom of because, again, even myself and I and and I'm me verbalizing how freeing it is, like, to not want anything. So you you somewhere in our life, we've been taught that you have to have everything, like, in which are literally items or, like, like, it's literally something physical in order for you have to have everything. This whatever this physical thing is for you to have everything. But the reality of it is it's not true. There's somewhere where our wires got crossed and confused us to feel like items or physical things or money was everything when you're everything.
Troy Washington:And so I think that it's it's a it's it's easy as it sounds. It's a tough realization to be able to look at yourself and say that I'm enough because everything around us says differently. Everybody around us shows differently. And for you to be able to just be okay and say that I'm enough is the biggest thing that you could ever do, but how? Go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Yeah. And and to answer the how, so in that example okay. I I'm at a place where I think the thoughts I wanna think. Like, they're like, right now, there's no thoughts going on right now. I'm just I'm I'm speaking because I'm in line with this.
JClay:So when I couldn't think, when I was like, how do I how do I do this? The only the only thing that was clear was I know I need to get outside. So I, like, I I just knew everything in my being was go outside. I'm outside now. And then, and then once I, once I call back up to a space where, oh, I can start employing thought again, because I'm, I'm, I'm balanced.
JClay:I'm, I'm feeling how I want to feel the feeling of thinking about that. Like I, I could think about whatever I want to think. Those thoughts about trying to manifest something for something else. It brought me down. I felt lower.
JClay:I felt heavy and it was like, nah, this is, this is not it. And, and I knew that it wasn't it. I, and I just knew based on my feeling. So I just let that go and just continued about my walk, jolly, happy, all this good stuff. And you, you know, from your feeling,
Troy Washington:shout out to Loretta. She just jumped on and she said, one thing can be a low vibrational experience if we let it. And, again, funny enough, when I was younger, number 1, again, the wants was different, I feel like, anyway. I I it it was it was not the want that I have as an adult. You know what I mean?
Troy Washington:And, you know, obviously enough, this big word that came around when I got old enough for me to hear it enough times was manifesting. Like, that was not a word even though it was a word, it was not a word that was amongst people under a certain age. It just wasn't, right? And, I think that that weight of I think it comes with a feeling of having to have. You have to have these things because if you don't have these things and again, nobody's going around and saying you don't got this, you don't got this, nobody's doing it, You're doing that to yourself.
Troy Washington:And that weight ends up being low vibration, it ends up being more than you can bear. It it it ends up being all these different things that are not real because somewhere down the line we made ourselves believe so. And, I love your example of you being outside walking and you said a word to me, you said jolly. You said I I just went on and kept being jolly. Like, you chose to say, you know what?
Troy Washington:I know there's a lot of things that I could think about. And is this not just you by yourself? Because I do the same thing. This this is how I find my peace over and over again. It's the reason why I say it to me and my my family over and over again.
Troy Washington:Because I have to reassure myself that I am enough. Like, it's a it's much of a it shouldn't be a job. It's something that we should naturally know. But again, the way that this world is set up, meaning the world that you created for yourself, the people that you're around, the shows that you watch, the books that you read, the the pathways you walk, the people that you have uplifted and put in a certain level like you look up to. Yeah.
Troy Washington:You've created a world in which you feel like you're at a deficit. And the reality of it is all of those things are revolving around you. And that's what we forget. Go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Check this out. About that one, you said one was something different as a kid. It was. It was more about wonder. Like, I wonder what it would be like to experience this.
JClay:I wonder what it would be like to do this. So I wonder it would be like to, to have this, like it wasn't, like you said, it wasn't a half to half and I, and what's cool about it with me and music. But I make a song. I wonder what kind of song I can make to this beat to make it positive. I wonder, I wonder if I can make this song about this and where people can understand it.
JClay:Like it's, there's a wonder coming from it. It's still a want, like, I want this song to be fire, but it's not even about that. It's about the creation, the experiment, the, the experience is like, And, and, and we let our curiosity take us where the outcome does not matter. It doesn't matter because it's, it's from a place of wonder, but want, or want can only be satisfied by having the, or feeling you have the object that you want or desire?
Troy Washington:Look, bro. Just this well, I'm not even gonna say just this year. In my life, I've experienced what I feel like are some of the most amazing things. Right? Now the cool part is these things that I've experienced, I felt like I wanted to experience them.
Troy Washington:So what I'm saying is, as an example, we have, you know, we just went to, Copa America this summer where we got to go watch, the soccer, the big soccer tournaments at AT and T Stadium. 50 yard line, pretty much the front row. Most amazing experience, right? Now you had asked me before if I wanted to do that. Yeah.
Troy Washington:I wanna do that. It it cost a lot. You know, all of these different things, I would've want to do it. Right? Now this is the thing that I realized while I was there.
Troy Washington:I didn't wanna be there. I didn't wanna be there. Right now, I'm not saying I'm not grateful for the opportunity to be there. That's the difference. Now the thing that made it the most amazing experience for me was the people that I was with.
Troy Washington:It wasn't even what I thought I wanted to go for. Now, again, I wanted to go there because it's cool to sit on the 50 yard line. It's cool to be down on the front row. And now I can tell everybody about that. Right?
Troy Washington:But the reality of it is if you take the 50 yard line away, you put me back up in the top seats, and I get to have all those same people there, I still gonna feel the exact same way I feel today. And so that's what I'm saying. We've created and crafted a world to blind us to what was really real. And I already have these people because I put them there. I already have, you know, all the things that I want, but I put all of these stipulations on it in order to make it or validate it.
Troy Washington:And that's why I'm telling you we lose touch. Go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Right. And what you touched on is, like, a a a trick that I've seen that people play on themselves where, like, so, okay. So sometimes even at home, like you'll be with the people that, that you love, the people that you, you like to be, be with most of the time, but you get clouded by the other things you have to do. Oh, we gotta do this. So this is limited.
JClay:You can't be fully present. But like when you go to an event like that, you accept that this is where I'm supposed to be. This is the it that I have to do. So your your guard is let down the same thing on vacation. But if you can remove that, I have to do something I have to, like, you can really just sit in that experience and really be as happy as you can be no matter what.
JClay:And, and shout out to, to DD, DD, he said, it has been a while since I've been able to listen to you live. I am enjoying the show. How do you know is the question? My question is when you know something, have you talked yourself out of believing that it is true? Oh.
Troy Washington:I think to so to answer that question, I think I think that's I think that's a big part of our life. That's the reason why we have a lack of confidence in a lot of things because one of the things that you taught from the time you were born is anything is possible. And then from that point forward, for the rest of your life, you figure out how everything is impossible. Like, you you you put all of these things in place to show you how things are not possible or how they cannot be done even though you know that it's possible. Using you as a as an example, Unc, before I was ever able to join a radio show, I thought it was impossible to be on a radio show.
Troy Washington:Because everything and everything around me told me that there was a pathway that I couldn't travel in order to get there. And then one day, you said, yeah. You can come up here and do this radio show with me, and it became real. Now I coulda went and started a radio show before that, but for whatever reason, I talked myself out of it. It's the same thing about this podcast.
Troy Washington:Before me and J Clay started this podcast, our position was all over us. We had all kind of reasons why we shouldn't have, couldn't have. And the reality of it is whether me and him spoken and spoke about it or not, we talked to ourself about it. We I talked to myself and be like, man, we need this. We don't got this.
Troy Washington:All of these different things. And then at some point, we say, you know what? Throw caution to the wind. I'm just gonna go do it. And I think that's a big part of all of our lives.
Troy Washington:And and, you know, I'm using, you know, radio and and podcast as an example because I've been able to overcome that. But it doesn't mean that I haven't I've overcome overcame it in every other aspect of my life, which is the reason why I love doing this show because just this realization again, me using the example of going to Copeland America, and that's just one example. You know? There's been plenty of places that I was at, or that I went to that I thought I was supposed to be there for another reason, and then I realized that the reason I'm here was because of something totally different. And the reason why I feel the way that I feel is because of something totally different is important for us to understand that we you are enough.
Troy Washington:You you are enough, and that's all it is to it. Go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Yeah. And and to this question, using the same example, as far as this, like, I I knew I know that we would have great conversations, that this we would touch on things that people, would wanna hear about, wanna think about, wanna, you know, just be put on their mind. But I didn't talk myself out of it. I was like, I don't got the budget. I don't know when you're gonna do it.
Troy Washington:We're
JClay:gonna listen. We've gotta try to figure out how to get a hardy. It's like, I talked myself out of it. And then Troy was like, let's just do it. And I was like, you know what?
JClay:Why not? It's it's the trying a new experience. I I don't know. I don't know anything about this. So let's just see what happened.
JClay:If it bomb, it bomb, nobody probably saw it anyway. We could delete it. But it it but it wasn't. It it was a great thing. And and again, I got to know myself more by not knowing anything about this experience.
Troy Washington:And and I wanna touch on the word that you said. If it bombs, it bombs. Specifically be specifically because that's the same way I felt too. And that again, that's a part of talking yourself out of it. And that's why I go back to saying not being tied to the outcome.
Troy Washington:Right? It doesn't matter if it bum or not. It shouldn't even be a part of the conversation. The reality of it is there's an experience that I want to experience. Regardless of the outcome, I'm happy experience.
Troy Washington:That's how I know because what I'm trying to what what I should know is I want the experience. That's how that's the note. That's what we're trying to touch on, but go ahead, Jay.
JClay:Yeah. Yeah. No. It's true. It's all about the experience.
JClay:And if we can remember that for everything, like, we can let our curiosity lead us, our our joy, and just that thought, like, again, I wonder is we were wondering toward that, that experience that we want to experience. And that's all, that's all we did as kids like, Oh, what's this? What's this shiny thing or is keys. I wonder what it feels like to hide them from my parents or something. Like it's just all these kind of things.
JClay:But go ahead.
Troy Washington:Look, I'm gonna say this because I know we're at the end of the show. Right? One thing, and this is me being a father. One thing that I've heard multiple people say in my life, including myself is I don't know how to be a father. I don't know what it's gonna be like when I have kids.
Troy Washington:Right? Like, there is a blank slate whether you've you've been a kid or not, which we've all been. Right? And the reality of it is walking into that unknown has been the greatest experience of my life. Like, I didn't know anything about how to do it, but it's the greatest experience of my life.
Troy Washington:And the reality of it is once you open yourself up to things, and not be tied to the outcome, number 1, Allow yourself to know that you are enough. I didn't have to have a book. I have enough intuition. I have enough within me to know that everything is gonna be alright because everything has been alright up until this point that I'm in right now. And so why would I base it on anything else?
Troy Washington:But I know we had our point, Jay. And, I was just gonna say, oh, you gotta go ahead.
JClay:Well, let me say this one thing about just the power of knowing that we possess. If anybody's doubting their power of knowing, because when you said that about, like, people don't know how to be a father or, or a kid or whatever, there comes a point where even as a kid, the things your siblings do or your parents do might be weird to you, but it, but it's like, how can it be weird if this is the environment I grew up in? They're really my basis of all I know. So if anything, this should be the norm and everything else is weird, but no, because you have your own sense of knowing that you stand on and you're like, no, this is, this is how life should be. This is how it should be.
JClay:So, yeah. Trust that in yourself because it's you.
Troy Washington:And, I just wanna end by telling y'all, man, we're grateful for everybody that joined us today. Just know that, you are perfect. You know, I this is kinda where we always come full circle. And if I can't leave you with anything on the show was, you know, when we tell you how do you know J. Clay said, you know, isolate yourself.
Troy Washington:We you we always, you know, point back to meditation. But just being able to look at yourself and say that I have it all. I do have it all. And everything else is just icing on the cake. If I don't get anything else, and I'm talking about physical things that are not necessarily you you are enough.
Troy Washington:You, provide more to the world than you could ever imagine, even though you might not give yourself the credit that you're supposed to be giving yourself. And that's what you you should know, and that'll open up way way more doors than you can ever imagine. And, like I said, you know, you are perfect. The only reason you would think differently is if you looking at the person next to you saying you're not them, but guess what? You with you and that you can take us out.
JClay:Yeah. Appreciate y'all again, rocking with us. Hit the share button, like, subscribe, share with people, you know, that need to know themselves or or realize how much they actually know about themselves and catch us every Sunday, 12 noon CST US time. And, just remember your perfect creation made by a perfect creator. So you might as well accept your perfection and enter perfect mode.
JClay:Yeah. If I reminded you that you are perfect, would you argue me down or step into your perfection? Welcome to perfect. Welcome to perfect. Welcome to perfect.
JClay:Where there are no excuses, no expectations, Everything, anything, anything, anything, anything, perfect. Everything, anything, anything, anything, anything, perfect. Everything, anything, anything, anything, anything, anything, anything, anything, anything, anything, anything, anything,
Troy Washington:Perfect. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect.