Mystery Maniacs

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Mark & Sarah

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Creators and Guests

Host
Mark Bell
Co-host of Mystery Maniacs
Host
Sarah Smith-Robbins
Co-host of Mystery Maniacs

What is Mystery Maniacs?

Mystery Maniacs Podcast is a comedy recap podcast dedicated to British Mystery Television. Formerly, Midsomer Maniacs podcast.

Sarah:

Hey, Maniacs.

Mark:

Hey, Mystery Maniacs. It's Clues and Reviews. Reviews. Reviews.

Sarah:

Was doing kind of a dramatic echo there.

Mark:

We're back after taking a week off because, well, we could take a week off whenever we want, and we were busy, and we built a Ferris wheel. Oh my gosh. The crazy life we lead. Yes. We have a Ferris wheel in our backyard right now that will be moved to the front yard for Halloween.

Mark:

Yes. There will be Halloween pictures to come.

Sarah:

You guys have to understand that Halloween is really my gig. And so when Mark volunteered and said, I wanna I'm I'm gonna build this.

Mark:

Well, first of all, I explained myself, and you were like, that can never happen.

Sarah:

I was like, but I I love that you're involved, that you're making something. That's great, right? We looked at plans and we put together ideas, and then you were like, I got it, I'm on it. I'm like, great, because I'm busy.

Mark:

It's And then all I built it.

Sarah:

And it's 11 feet tall before it's even on its stand. Yep. Like the wheel is 11 feet tall. Oh my gosh. It is ginormous.

Sarah:

Quite large. What's really funny is that when Mark went online to try to figure out what the best supports were, how we could build the frame that actually holds the wheel up-

Mark:

Yes, because I'm not a structural engineer.

Sarah:

Couldn't find exactly what he wanted. So went to AI and gave it some ideas and just to get some ideas back to kind of start figuring it out. Every time he tried that, it insisted that we not put any children in this

Mark:

thing. Several times. It asked me, Are you sure you're not putting children in

Sarah:

It's not for kids. It's for skeletons. It's for skeletons. We promise. Promise.

Sarah:

Oh, anyway, what a week.

Mark:

Yes. So we have returned, and we have actually watched some, detective mystery type television. Oh my god. The first thing we're gonna talk about sent me into a tizzy. Cooper and Fry.

Mark:

Cooper and Fry on BritBox.

Sarah:

It's good. I like it.

Mark:

I certainly like it because it's to give me the the high level overview of Cooper and Cry.

Sarah:

No. I'm just gonna I'm just gonna tell people what it was like to watch it with you. That's what I'm gonna tell them.

Mark:

I literally almost puked in the first five minutes, maybe five times.

Sarah:

And not because it's gross, No. It has nothing to do with the show and everything to do with Mark. He sends me a message earlier in the day and he says, OMG, I found this show. It's almost Mot and Bailey, which is one of his books

Mark:

that So Mot he's Bailey writing is right one of the series of books that I'm almost done, five chapters left.

Sarah:

And he's like, I'm afraid that somebody had the same idea I had, but then he watched a little bit and realized it's not, it's different, Yep. So we sit down that night and we're gonna watch it, but Mark's not sure if we're gonna watch the whole thing or if he's just showing me the first few minutes that he's already watched. And as he's showing it to me, every ten seconds he's saying, and at this point I thought, Oh no, she looks just like Bailey from my book. And at this point I thought, Oh no, they're on a farm and somebody's going to Oh, no. This hap oh, no.

Sarah:

And then I thought this, and then I thought that. And I'm like, Mark, are we gonna watch this, or are you just gonna talk?

Mark:

And I got to the point where I'd watched too, where I was comfortable enough to know that this was not me Mont Belien. Yeah. And and that was I had stopped watching then because I

Sarah:

was we

Mark:

should watch it

Sarah:

together because I would like it to.

Mark:

Yeah. So here's the offshoot about all

Sarah:

of that. About to snap. Like, I get it. Okay? Yeah.

Sarah:

I get that you were worried, not now.

Mark:

Here is the offshoot to all of that about Cooper and Fry. First of all, if you like Cooper and Fry, you'll like my book.

Sarah:

There is that.

Mark:

Second of all, if you don't like Cooper and Fry, things about it bother you, guess what? You'll like my book. Yeah. That's a win win.

Sarah:

A couple of people said that they thought Cooper and Fry was really dark. I didn't

Mark:

I don't think it's dark

Sarah:

find that at all.

Mark:

So it's a it's a It's not veteran detective in the Peak District, which I'm always like, Peak District, but it's Peak District, and a young woman who comes from the big city Yeah. To come work with him. And she's a woman of color.

Sarah:

So they're solving crimes in a rural

Mark:

Small town Yeah. Setting.

Sarah:

Village. Yep. But it doesn't have the whimsy of a midsummer.

Mark:

No. It does not have the whimsy of a midsummer on my book. Just saying. Just saying.

Sarah:

Your book has a whimsy. This doesn't have Cooper and Fry does not have whimsy.

Mark:

No. But it's good. We we watched the first two episodes and then enjoyed it immensely. We couldn't watch anymore, Sarah. No.

Mark:

Because we're not has a tier. We're not pick BritBox plus plus.

Sarah:

Yeah. We already we already paid for BritBox. Yes. But they want more if we wanna if we wanna binge

Mark:

more a year

Sarah:

On top of

Mark:

if we wanna binge this. You know what? Well, wait. Considering the list of shows we haven't watched is longer than the list of shows that we have watched, and we are on the verge of the greatest thing that eats up all of our television time, which is the hockey season. We'll wait.

Sarah:

Yeah.

Mark:

We'll

Sarah:

wait. We'll dole it out. Yeah. So definitely worth the watch if you haven't seen it yet. Yes.

Sarah:

If you do watch it, let us know what you think.

Mark:

And then we also have a friend of the show, Sarah's dad, has this had a suggestion for us that we were already watching.

Sarah:

Ugh. Yeah. So you all know that my dad was ill in the last year and then recovered a bit. And what you don't know is that as a result of all of that, we have moved him into an assisted living facility.

Mark:

He is happier than ever.

Sarah:

He wasn't excited. Nope. But now that he's there, he likes it.

Mark:

He has, like, snow white Cinderella animal friends. So

Sarah:

we watched the first episode of of the Marble Hall Murders on PBS, which is the third installment of the Anthony Horowitz. Susan Ryland is the name of the detective. She's an editor, a publisher. So that was the magpie murders were the first one, and then it was the Moonflower Murders, and now it's Marble Hall, which I always want to call the first two the Moonpie murders, Because it's magpie and moonflower. They're it's not moon pies.

Sarah:

The moon pies are good. Have ever had a moon pie?

Mark:

Sort of. I can't have them now, though.

Sarah:

Not now because they have the chocolate on

Mark:

the outside. They have the chocolate.

Sarah:

You've never had a banana flavored one?

Mark:

No. Because banana bleh.

Sarah:

My sister speaking of moon pies,

Mark:

my sister- Embarrassing Sister Stories brought to you by Sarah.

Sarah:

Welcome to Embarrassing Sister Stories Corner. She worked at this place called Poe Folks, which was a restaurant chain when she was a teenager.

Mark:

Slightly racist.

Sarah:

A waitress there.

Mark:

Slightly racist.

Sarah:

And it was all themed like Appalachian backwoods theme. Little bit. But they had knee high and glass bottles in a cooler. Yep. That was fine.

Mark:

Radar O'Reilly would be happy.

Sarah:

I love peach knee high and orange knee high. One of the things, if you've never been to a PO folks, or maybe you don't remember if you have, that the waitresses had to do was they had moon pies for desserts. And if you bought one, if you ordered one, the waitresses were required to bring this bare branch in a flower pot that had Moon Pies hanging on it.

Mark:

It was the Moon Pie Tree.

Sarah:

And it was the Moon Pie Tree. And they had to bring it to your table and tell you the story of the Moon Pie Tree and how it grew only under the full moon in the Appalachian Mountains in Tennessee and all this stuff. She had to memorize that story. I remember her memorizing it for her second interview to prove So that she could do that's my memory of Moon Pies. Anyway, Marble Hall murders.

Mark:

Yes.

Sarah:

So we watched the first episode because this is one of those shows where it's the same mystery throughout the whole season.

Mark:

But two mysteries told on different timelines.

Sarah:

Yeah. But the season is based on one book.

Mark:

Yes. Anthony By

Sarah:

Anthony Horowitz. So we watched the first episode and then we're watching the second episode and my dad calls.

Mark:

Yes.

Sarah:

And it was, so this aired on Sunday night on Masterpiece. We're watching it on Monday. My dad calls in the middle of it. So we pause it and I'm talking to dad and he goes, Hey, you watched that Marble Murder show. It was like Marble Hall.

Sarah:

And he's like, yeah. And I said, yeah, we watched it. Not thinking anything. And he goes, well, I couldn't believe the end when they were doing this and that. And I'm like, dad, we're right in the middle of

Mark:

it. Spoilers.

Sarah:

Stop, stop. We haven't finished. Because I'm thinking the second episode is the end. Like we're about to find out like who the killer is and whatever. Like, tattoo it, no, zip it.

Sarah:

He's like, well, I won't give it away then, but I'll tell you at the end, they read a will and just watch the kid while they're reading it. Dad, don't give it away. He basically described the end of the episode, but luckily that's not the end of the show. So he wasn't actually giving anything away. But then the next morning, I'm driving to work.

Sarah:

I'm in the parking garage. It is 06:30 in the morning. My phone rings and it's my dad and I'm thinking, holy hell, what's happened to him? Is he okay? Cause who calls at 06:30 in the morning unless it's an emergency?

Sarah:

He answered the phone and he's like, are you up? Like, yeah, dad, I'm almost to work already. Wow, you're up pretty early. Like, yeah, dad, what do you need? Are you okay?

Sarah:

Well, I'm calling to tell you that last night I heard something that I don't think a human has ever heard before. Okay. Now he lives in a retirement home where he says it's full of

Mark:

old people. And we have been inundated by weird noises in our house.

Sarah:

Yes, we think we have a squirrel in the attic. Anyway, I said, Dad, what did you hear? And he said, I heard a squirrel fart. Okay, probably not many people have heard that, but I'm kinda doubting that you heard it. How did you hear it?

Sarah:

He goes, well, it was sitting in my lap at the time. Snow White, ladies and gentlemen. My dad is a Disney princess now because Harold Smith, Disney princess. He sits on his porch and puts out peanuts and little muffins that he steals from the dining room, and the squirrels come and eat them. And apparently now he lures them into his lap with peanuts, and one of them tooted in his lap.

Mark:

So then the second part of the series of the story is my part. Right? So Sarah hangs up, talks to her dad for a little, hangs up, and then calls me. Yes. But Sarah's in the car, and the car is in a off position.

Mark:

She's at work and parked. And the phone is switching between the car and the phone and the car and the phone. And she can't talk, and all I hear is laughing. So I know there's not something wrong. But you're like, hello?

Mark:

Hello? Hello? Are you okay?

Sarah:

I'm like, squirrel farts.

Mark:

Then she explains squirrel farts to me.

Sarah:

Squirrel farts. He's like, it was kinda hot

Mark:

on my There

Sarah:

we go. They're named peanut, muffin, and no name. That's the names of his squirrels. Yep.

Mark:

That's what we can have to look forward to in our old age.

Sarah:

Peanut muffin and no name.

Mark:

I gotta tell you, this season, especially, the other seasons have been, but this season is Horowitz writing a love letter to Agatha Christie. Yeah. It is a Poirot situation.

Sarah:

Yeah. Well, and he does write. He is one of the few authors who is allowed to write Yes. Continuing Agatha Christie stories. Yep.

Sarah:

By by the estate.

Mark:

I actually think that probably he created this series because they maybe didn't like some of the ideas he had.

Sarah:

And he turned them into But he this

Mark:

still liked this, liked the idea. Yeah.

Sarah:

I can believe I can believe that he would do that. They're really good.

Mark:

In addition, starting last starting Thursday night, two episodes of the new traitors dropped.

Sarah:

Mhmm. Alan Cumming.

Mark:

It's traitors new blood. It's on Peacock.

Sarah:

It's Trader's US. Yep. So Alan Cumming is the host. Yep. It's not celebrities or reality stars.

Sarah:

It's like real people.

Mark:

Boy, they got some money, though.

Sarah:

Alan Cumming

Mark:

is fantastic. Money than ever. Boy, they got cast to thousands.

Sarah:

His wardrobe is always fantastic. Is fantastic. That man can wear anything he wants and make it look cool.

Mark:

Yep. Yep. He could have

Sarah:

a garbage bag on, and it would be classy.

Mark:

And they they are spectacular at changing up the show. Mhmm. I think what all these reality shows learn from Survivor was Survivor and Big Brother waited too long to make changes. Yeah. And now they're making changes.

Sarah:

You need enough of the structure to be familiar that you can follow along. You you understand how it works, but then they need to put twists in to make one season different than others.

Mark:

And I think they

Sarah:

did a good job of does a really good job

Mark:

of that. Those things on the other shows from other countries Mhmm. To test them out.

Sarah:

Yeah. Definitely. But but Traitors is the most murder mystery like reality show out there.

Mark:

It is something that I've been thinking a lot about and you'll all find out why soon.

Sarah:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you have Peacock, well worth the watch. All the seasons of Trader are good. Yep. Traders are good.

Sarah:

I mean, all around the world, all of them are great.

Mark:

But Sarah, I wanna watch something that I can sit and watch TV while I'm scrolling through my phone and eating dessert. What what could I watch that I don't have to really pay much attention to?

Sarah:

While we're sitting eating, like, really sugary desserts Yes. And getting, like, fat and happy. Yes. We watched physical 100.

Mark:

Yes. So physical 100, if you don't know, is a show from

Sarah:

South Korea.

Mark:

South Korea. We've mentioned it before. A 100 people who are way more fit than we are.

Sarah:

They get the best physical specimens from wrestlers to kung fu fighters to, like, CrossFit trainers.

Mark:

To do contests. Like, okay. When I watch Jeopardy, I go, I would have got that. I would have got that. I would have won this episode.

Mark:

There there's none of that in this episode. No. I I could not hang by that bar for two and a half hours. No. No.

Mark:

I could not do that. I could last maybe twenty seconds. Yeah. Yeah. So we've been watching those.

Mark:

They're on, Netflix as well.

Sarah:

We watched so this week, we started Mexico and Italy.

Mark:

Yes. Which are very different. Yeah. But again, much more money. We're we're we're seeing post COVID stuff now starting to come out.

Sarah:

I told a friend of mine at work who's a big CrossFit buff. I was like, dude, you need to watch physical 100 because you are like the fittest person I know and you will feel like a fat sack watching this show.

Mark:

So I just take another scoop of dessert and shove it in my mouth. You'd be you'd think we would have watched everything, but this is a really big time for shows.

Sarah:

Yeah. Things we haven't watched yet, but plan to. The new Tommy and Tuppence.

Mark:

We haven't even got to that yet.

Sarah:

The new season of slow horses.

Mark:

The which we're always excited about.

Sarah:

I love Gary Old man. Yep. And the Marlowe Mysteries, we haven't started those yet either.

Mark:

All that. Plus, the hockey season is two more games than it was last year. And You know? All week, all the time, baby.

Sarah:

It's your special thing. Yep. We'll give it to you. Yep. Nobody else cares.

Mark:

But it eats up our time.

Sarah:

It eats up your time and I go to the garage. Yes. It's a great thing for me to go and do something else and not feel guilty for not being in the No, house watching TV not at all. Because you're watching something I have no interest in. No.

Sarah:

That's what we haven't watched yet. There are. But we will be.

Mark:

There's now sixty one years without

Sarah:

a chance. If you have watched Tommy and Tuppence, Slow Horses, Marlowe Mysteries

Mark:

Yeah.

Sarah:

Let us know what you think. Don't ruin them like my dad tries to, but, you know, don't get farted on by a squirrel either.

Mark:

No. And another thing I wanna talk about just really briefly, we don't have a schedule for returning to regular episodes, but we're still planning on doing that. Absolutely. I don't want.

Sarah:

And we're closer now than ever. Almost through the insane time of the year.

Mark:

And we have Halloween pics to come and we always post those and always get lots of great feedback and love for those. And we have so many exciting things to come out including season twenty six of Midsommar. We know the first episode name is Mindful to Murder Now.

Sarah:

I expect that'll be December.

Mark:

Yeah. That that's usually late December when that arrives.

Sarah:

Yeah. And we will be back to normal by then.

Mark:

Oh, I I would hope that we were back to normal by then.

Sarah:

I would hope so. Yes.

Mark:

If we're not back to normal

Sarah:

by then, So something else has we like to end the Clues and Reviews episodes with some kind of discussion question that we can all talk about and get your views and opinions on something that we all have in common. And I've got a burning question because of this situation with dad almost spoiling his show.

Mark:

Yes.

Sarah:

And no, I'm not asking about what what rare animal has tooted in your lap. That's not what I'm asking.

Mark:

Nope. We're it's not animal tutelage. Tutelage?

Sarah:

So here's what I wanna know, Mark. Which do you like better, watching or reading a mystery and figuring it out ahead of the detective going, I know who did it. And then finding out that you were right. Or do you prefer a mystery where even if you think you know who did it, it turns out you're wrong and it totally baffled you Okay. Until the very end, and you're like, oh, I never saw that coming.

Mark:

Okay. I have three situations in order of what I like. The least to the most.

Sarah:

Okay.

Mark:

The one I like the least is when I'm like, oh, it's that guy. And everything is confirming it's that guy. And then at the end, Poirot goes, and it's that guy.

Sarah:

And I go, yeah. Like, there was no challenge

Mark:

at no challenge at all.

Sarah:

Like, when when it's a show with the all regular cast except for one person who's, like, won the BAFTA 35 times, and you're like, well, obviously, that person gonna be the killer.

Mark:

Yeah. We we do that often, and probably you guys do that too. As soon as somebody, like

Sarah:

Really well known, recognizable. You've seen him in a

Mark:

Tips in a tree.

Sarah:

Yeah. He did it. Yeah. You've seen him in a bunch

Mark:

of movies. Know that

Sarah:

They wouldn't have brought this person on the cast to just kill them off. Yep. Though that has happened in a couple of shows.

Mark:

That has happened. Yep. The second instance is where you're led to believe that it's this person, and then it's something somebody completely different that you're like, how did okay. Well, that makes sense. So, like, the the red herring fooled you a little bit and but then you immediately know

Sarah:

If it's not that person, it has to be this person. Yeah. Has to options.

Mark:

It has to be two options. Right? So so that's number two. And then there is my favorite, which is what we talked about in the past, which is the moment in and then there were none where everyone is dead. So everything you've thought is completely wrong at this point, and there are 20 more pages to the story.

Mark:

Mhmm. Or twenty more minutes in the story.

Sarah:

And you can't even guess Yep. How it's gonna resolve.

Mark:

It it has happened. I I can't remember an example right now, especially in Midsummer where I'm like, that's definitely that's definitely the killer. That's oh, they're dead.

Sarah:

Oh. I guess they can't be

Mark:

the killer. They can't be the killer.

Sarah:

Unless there's two killers.

Mark:

I gotta reset. So so that's what I love, the completely out of left field, how they did it is so incredibly interesting.

Sarah:

As long as the solution that you didn't see coming is based on information that you didn't have. Absolutely. Or it's some character who hasn't been in it until then, suddenly walking on and being like, I'm the killer.

Mark:

Yeah, Who are you? Yeah, I don't like that.

Sarah:

That's not good. So you prefer to be surprised.

Mark:

I like to be surprised.

Sarah:

I think I'm with you only because there seems to be such a big gap between, I think I know who did it and I'm right. That's not usually a challenge. I'm not saying I'm dumb, but if I can guess who did it that early, it's probably kind of obvious. You know what I mean? And then it's not really a challenge.

Sarah:

But in the few cases where I've been like, I think that person did it. And you're like, why do you think that? I'm like, I don't know. I just think they did it. And then I turn out to be right.

Sarah:

And you go, you were right. I find that highly satisfying.

Mark:

Excellent. There's there's also the the sort of ugly cousin to whodunit, which is whydunit, which is that's obviously the killer, but why are they killing people?

Sarah:

Yeah. You

Mark:

know? You

Sarah:

mean like the they do this a lot in in movies where it actually starts with the crime. Like, see the crime happening. Yes. And then the rest of it is what led up to that.

Mark:

Yes. And Marple was another example of that of you kind of figure out in why didn't they ask Evans who the killers are, but you're like, but why

Sarah:

Why are they doing it?

Mark:

Why are they doing it?

Sarah:

You know? And they're just not they're not just, you know, crazy psycho killers. Yeah. They must have a motive,

Mark:

but you

Sarah:

don't know what the

Mark:

motive is. So the motive is the the thing that you have to figure out. And it's those are so hard. Like creating whodunnits in which you actually surprise people, it's incredibly difficult.

Sarah:

The ones that always catch me, that always surprise me are the stories where it's the person who you've come to trust, who seems to be helpful to the detective. And you're like, oh, I like them. They're like a sidekick for one story, and they turn out to be the killer.

Mark:

Marple's Pale Horses. Yes. Not the book, but the but the Marple Pale Horse

Sarah:

Yeah.

Mark:

Is like that. Yeah. The the trusted person all along

Sarah:

Who you really like.

Mark:

Who you like Yeah. Who is helpful

Sarah:

Yeah. Turns out to be the killer. Yeah. And you feel so vulnerable all of a sudden. Yep.

Sarah:

Like, wait a minute, now I have to question every piece of information that Yep. They And I think it also gets to me because I almost feel like, oh no, now the detective's in danger. Yeah. Which you hardly ever feel that way, really, because you know they're gonna return for another story, so they're not gonna get killed.

Mark:

In Pale Horses with miss Marple, he at the end of it, he tries to assault miss Marple, and that's when the cops show up Yeah. Immediately.

Sarah:

Yeah. I just finished, the detective's name is Jack Logan. I know I've mentioned him these books before. It's J. D.

Sarah:

Kirk is the author. And it's like the twenty third book in the series, I think. And it sort of has that kind of twist at the end. And I was really angry because it was like, I figured out that this person was not any good. And I was really worried that they were gonna hurt Jack because he hadn't figured it out yet.

Sarah:

And then turns out he had figured it out. He was way ahead

Mark:

of me. The peril.

Sarah:

And I was okay with that. I'm like, oh, I really like this detective. I'm worried about him. It's just a book.

Mark:

It it is. It's it's a struggle. And, you know, I brought them up a billion times so far. But when I'm writing, I'm the books that I'm writing now are from particular people's points of view, the main character's points of view. So there can't be any killer cam stuff.

Sarah:

Or You don't get that

Mark:

third person. You don't get that third person. And so that means only what's in front of them is what you have.

Sarah:

Yeah. Not the person sneaking up behind them. Nope. So listeners, which do you find more satisfying? Are you happier when you figure it out and you get to be right?

Sarah:

Not figuring out in the first scene of something, it's just easy.

Mark:

It's easy.

Sarah:

But if you figure it out and it turns out that you're right, that's really satisfying. Or do you prefer when the end is something that you never saw coming, but that works? It's not a cop out or some kind of weird red herring thing, but- It's aliens.

Mark:

Then you're

Sarah:

genuinely surprised by, because you never expected that to be the end. Which which one do you like better? Yeah. Or maybe you like both. That's okay too.

Sarah:

Or maybe you have a bet your favorite example of each one. Let us know what you think. Hit us up on the socials, email us, whatever you wanna do.

Mark:

See, see, seven super cut drops this week later on, so enjoy that. They seem to be very popular amongst people. I'm super pleased.

Sarah:

Well, and if even if you don't relisten to episodes, listen to the beginning of this one because there's some fun stuff at the start that's new. Yep. Bye, Maniacs.

Mark:

Bye, Maniacs. Thanks for joining us on the Mystery Maniacs podcast. If you enjoyed our crazy podcast today, don't miss out on future episodes. Follow us on social media for updates, beyond the scenes content, and exclusive sneak peeks. Subscribe, like, and share to spread the word.

Mark:

Bye, Maniacs.