Indigenous Wisdom with Julia Carmen

What holds the healer together?

In this month's archetype episode, Julia Carmen sits with the Healer — the curandera, the servant, the teacher — and follows the teaching back to where it has always begun: with yourself.

The Healer's energy flows like an atom, putting the stardust back together wherever it needs to be. Their medicine bag holds all the elements — water, fire, earth — because the path of healing draws from all of life. And the first thing Julia names is what this archetype is not: the one who goes out there and fixes everyone else first. The medicine has to live in you before it can move through you. You cannot give from an empty vessel.

Three movements shape the teaching: how the Healer heals others, how the Healer heals themselves, and how the Healer connects with the world. Julia holds space for the Healers who give and give and forget to receive. Boundaries here are clarity, not withholding. Resentment is a signal. The invitation is always to come home to yourself first.

The Jade Dragonfly is the companion: *Health is yours today. Let the healing begin. Healing from the inside out. Take your time to heal. Wear jade. Be the jade.*

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What is Indigenous Wisdom with Julia Carmen?

Indigenous Wisdom is about opening yourself up and getting to know yourself better as a Human being on this Earth. In this podcast, Julia shares messages, channeled wisdom, and more to support your wisdom journey.

[gentle music] Welcome back to the Indigenous Wisdom Podcast. Mirale. Yo soy Julia Carmen.

And in today's, uh, continuation of our monthly archetype series, we are sitting with the healer.

Now, I want to say this right out from the start,

when people hear the word healer, they think of someone whose whole purpose is out there fixing other people. Mirale, that is not where this is, where this archetype begins.

The healer heals themselves first.

The healing begins and ends with you.

We also have a companion for this one.

We have actually two, mm-hmm,

the jade dragonfly and the healer dragonfly,

and her message is simple:

Health is yours today.

And the reminder about the series, we carry multiple [laughs] archetypes. Most of us lead with one to three,

but they are all within us.

Archetypes are energetic blueprints. They show us how energy moves in us and through us.

Check this out. The Magical Papers Workshop is where you can each discover your own. Mm.

Okay, so let's get into the healer.

Oh, what is... What the healer is. Okay, let's check that out. Okay, there we go. The healer is a curandera, curandero, a person who heals, who teaches, who serves.

They carry a medicine bag, and that bag holds all the elements, water, fire, earth. Their energy flows like an atom. Isn't that cool? You seen an atom? Mm. Yeah.

Puts the stardust back together,

wherever it needs to be.

That image is the healer. [gentle music] Restoration, gathering what scatters back into wholeness. Ooh, isn't that great? [laughs] That's so powerful, isn't it? Stardust. Oh, that's been scattered. Can you ever... Do you, do... Mirale, do you ever think about, "Oh, my gosh, what happened to me? I'm all over the place"? Mm-hmm. Oh, my gosh. Brings it all back

into wholeness.

Mm. Mm. Mm. Mm. Mm.

Okay.

Check this out. The heart of it,

heal yourself first. Oh, my gosh, I'm sure you've heard that. Healer, heal thyself. Yeah. They must heal themselves first before helping others. Oh, my goodness, some of you may be thinking, "Oh, well, fart's in a bucket. [laughs] I need to be 100% healed." No, no, no, that's not what we're talking about.

Yeah?

What we're sharing with you

is that balance within self, right?

Speak to the why. The medicine has to live in you before it could move through you.

Cannot give from an empty vessel, right?

The father and mother's

teaching.

Completion of you as you are the mother and you are the father,

to heal the all of you.

One cannot be without the mother or the father on this path of life.

Becoming your own nurturing and your own ground.

Mm. Isn't that beautiful? That's actually from, um, healer dragonfly.

Check it out. Mm-hmm.

Boundaries here are clarity. They're not withholding. Yeah, sometimes people, they go out, they have these really tight boundaries. They're clarity. It's never about... It's never been about holding people at bay. It's always been about clarity with self.

The healer learns to give from fullness,

not from depletion. I wanna hang out here for just a second. Okay.

If the healer archetype speaks to you,

mm-hmm, and you get the sense of, "Well, I have to keep giving," you know, it's like an automatic just kind of give, give, give, right?

There's a little something something here.

Have you ever felt resentful

or cranky or whatevers, right? That means

there's this depletion going on. That doesn't mean to stop everything, pull those boundaries in, don't let anybody in. It's all about actually

clarity about how you are giving. You're giving beings, yeah? Those of you that could resonate to healer, you're giving beings. Yeah? So let me read that again.

Boundaries here are clarity, not withholding.

The healer learns to give with fullness. Ugh, yeah. So it's... Remember, it's about you

moving into your own healing self of being as the mother, father of the being. Yeah? Mm-hmm.

One of the most foremost healers of all, and this is everything to do with that frequency and energy of unconditional love, right? And Jesus Christ was the first and the foremost healer of that. Servant, teacher to us all, the humans.

And all healers, servants, and teachers always accomplish their missions. Always. Mm-hmm.

Gonna check that out.

It's the truth.

There are three movements in this healer being,

and that is how does the healer heal others? How does the healer heal themselves?

And how does the healer connect with the world? Mm, mm, mm.

How do we heal ourselves? I'm gonna go back there again, and that is in the jade, uh, dragonfly. Let's do that one first. I'm gonna read to you jade dragonfly, the full dragonfly here. And this is the

companion to the archetype. Yeah. Health is yours today. Let the healing begin. You have been on the road of wealth.

In the order to have it all,

you must be in the health of all

in all ways.

Do you understand?

Healing from the inside out is it.

Start today to walk in the path of health. Picking this dragonfly card means to focus on this for as long as you need to feel the health within and without.

Take your time to heal. Think of the, think of the deep color of jade. Wear jade. Be the jade.

S- some folks say, "Well," again, like I said at the beginning, "I will never be the healer of the archetype of the being if I'm so focused on myself." Oh, that sure sounds like a healer to me. Mm-hmm. No, what this means is

be in that presence of self.

Go into your own personal medicine bag. And your medicine bag could be

taking a walk somewhere, your favorite place, going into meditation, doing some physical, um, movement. This may sound very interesting or,

uh, not productive to anyone else. One of my healing modalities, I'm gonna quote unquote, is actually doing, I'm gonna whisper it,

cleaning. [laughs] I'll look at something... Not organizing. I'm not, not great at organizing, but cleaning. Looking into a cupboard and going, "Oh, my goodness." And then I'll be there, like, 3:00 or 4:00 in the morning just kinda cleaning. But in there, my mind is so, y- you know, like, da, da, da, da, and all of a sudden all this... I feel, I feel rejuvenated. If I don't think about, "Well, that's so dirty, blah, blah, blah," the content, right? Yeah, just quieting the mind down, right?

So whatever it is, your medicine bag. Of course, I love going

to walk in nature. That is one of my favorites, listening to all that good stuff. But sometimes I can't do that at, when I...

Yeah. So I just go do my thing. Go into your own little medicine bag, healer persons, and hang out there for as long as you need to. And then when you come back up, and you're fully replenished, and you're clarifying where you be, then

that's

how the healer heals others.

Mírala, sometimes it's being in the presence of a healer heals the room. Your frequency and energy will heal the room.

I love that part. Mm-hmm.

How do we connect? How does a healer connect with the world? The healer connects with the world by shh.

That soul listening, where the truth of the truth is it, yeah? So the truth is not out there, it is within. But it's such a challenge to see that when there's so much going on. Shh.

Mm-hmm.

So we're gonna be, uh, uh, we're gonna continue more so talking about, um, the jade dragonfly here. I mean, I think I did talk a bit about it, but let's talk a little bit more. So the road, I love that verse, the road of wealth versus the health of you.

The real wealth is health, right? Within and without. Take your time to heal.

There is no rush, no clock. Focus on it for as long as you need.

The deep green of jade as a color to return to,

to wear, to be. Isn't that cool?

Mm-hmm.

Reassurance to close the teachings,

right?

All healers, servants, teachers always accomplish their mission.

The mission gets done.

[sighs] Taking a pause there because there's a, it's a kind of like an oxymoron here [laughs] in a way, because when you walk into a room, let's say you be the healer, and I know you've experienced this, people come to you,

and they know you have the medicine, quote-unquote, whatever that medicine might be, because you just know.

Your medicine bag could be your presence, yeah? Without ego, you just know that you're there. Mm-hmm. So there's this sense of, "I need to get this done. I need to get this mission done. I need to blah, blah, blah." But the interesting part is

that all healers, and when I say servants, I'm not talking about, you know, a servant that

serves all the time and never replenish self, right?

Teachers, yeah,

always,

always accomplish that which they need.

It always gets done.

Hmm.

Mírale, if you lead with the healer,

here we go again,

the still, small voice within.

Hmm, yes, that's me.

Speak to the healer who gives, and gives, and forgets to receive.

The invitation,

come home to yourself first.

Remember,

you first,

in the most healthiest

and the most loving way.

We hear that loving kindness, and we hear it often, to give loving kindness to others, and we forget that really, if you really listen, it says loving kindness to first.

One of the things that I love about Jesus Christ, you know, the, the, the Jesus Christ I know, mm-hmm, love thy neighbor as thyself, and I hear that. People go, "Oh, I gotta love my neighbor. I gotta love my neighbor. I gotta do this for them." A neighbor is anyone that's, you know, could be a family member. It could be actual neighbor. It could be the person, and when you go to the grocery store,

or that person on the phone.

Mm-hmm.

But everybody forgets love thy neighbor as thyself.

So it's about you. It's always been about you and the loving kindness of self first.

See you first,

then you'll see others. Then we get lost, and we go, "Ooh, I'm a little tired." Mm-hmm.

Then shh, and then you go, "Ah,"

and then you see you,

and then there's that loving kindness, unconditional love of self. And then know this, it really works. Then there's so much to give without,

you know, feeling resentful, without feeling that sense of ugh, yeah? And you're, there's this jovious wonderfulness movement of self, yeah?

And it's actually not about seeing people... I mean, of course, you see people happy, but it's about understanding that, oh my goodness, my archetype, I do lead with healer.

And in the most important thing here in that realm of me being the archetype of the healer and my companions here, Healer Dragonfly,

um, Jade Dragonfly, mm-hmm.

[laughs] Yeah, right?

There you go.

So in finishing up,

I wanna share with you Healer Dragonfly, mother and father.

Completion of you as the mother,

father heals

the all of you.

On this path of life, one cannot be without the mother.

One cannot be without the father. The healing begins and ends with you. Love, life is you. Amen.

Right on.

That's the healer. Oh my gosh. Mírale, the one who puts the stardust back together, who carries all the elements in their medicine bag, and who heals themselves first so the healing can move out into the world. The healing begins and ends with you. Life is you.

And Jade Dragonfly has one thing to say about all of it.

Here we go. I'm gonna read this right off the card. Mm. Health is yours today. Let the healing begin, healing from the inside out.

Take your time to heal.

Think of the deep color of jade.

Wear jade. Be the jade.

[gentle music] If you want to discover your own archetypes, the Magical Papers workshop is there for you on demand at theschoolwithoutwalls.net. And the Jade Dragonfly, along with all her other companions, lives in the Dragonfly card deck.

Okay, we'll keep going with this series next month. Until then, ay, mira, take your time. Be the health of you in all ways.

Muchas gracias for hanging with us week after week. Mm, so appreciate you.

Share this with someone who needs to come home to themselves, 'cause isn't that all that we're doing is leading each other back home to self? Mm-hmm. Muchas gracias again. Con, con mucho cariño y amo.

Amen.

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