Clydesdale Media Podcast

Every Sunday Night Carolyne Prevost, Jamie Latimer and Scott Switzer get together to discuss the events of the week in the CrossFit and Fitness spaces.  This week we will be discussing the WFP and Alex Gazan taking a Gummy, we will also look at event  1 for the CrossFit Games and Community Event.  In, addition we will play a game called fact or fiction about different perceptions in the CrossFit Space. Plus a whole lot more on the Original Sunday Night CrossFit Talk Show.

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What is Clydesdale Media Podcast?

We cover the sport of CrossFit from all angles. We talk with athletes, coaches and celebrities that compete and surround in the sport of CrossFit at all levels. We also bring you Breaking News, Human Interest Stories and report on the Methodology of CrossFit. We also use the methodology to make ourselves the fittest we can be.

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What is going on, Kenneth, Clintus,

Meredith, Craig, Ken, Edging, Fergie,

everybody.

So awesome to be here.

I think that's everything on the welcome.

I had my twenty eighth

wedding anniversary yesterday.

Congratulations.

Congrats.

Never in my wildest dreams.

I think I would get to twenty eight years,

you know, with one person.

It is.

it's just wild um and we um

we went and had a nice

lunch at a place called

liberty tavern here it's a

new like upscale pub type

thing really really nice um

lots of outdoor seating and

it was a beautiful day

yesterday and julie has

been kind of cooped up with

the knee surgery so she

just wanted to be outside

so we did that and then

Today we kind of finished off everything.

We went to the dog park with

Walter and kind of sat

outside and our dog park is

right by the lake.

So you get kind of the water

and the sunshine and all of that stuff.

Um, and it was really, really nice, but,

um,

twenty years married and we dated for

four and a half years

before we got married.

Wow.

So we've been together way longer than, um,

half of my life.

That's awesome.

something to be celebrated

these days for sure.

Um,

I know that a lot of people were drawn

to the grid league match

this weekend because of John young,

but Carolyn,

I have a mutual friend who

also competed in the grid

league this weekend.

And that was Lauren Olson

who is on John's team.

Did you guys catch any of the match?

I did not.

I caught probably half of the matches,

and then I didn't watch the end of it,

and I never got back to re-watching it.

I watched it from the spin cast.

I was wondering where it was.

I know they also had another part,

but... It's on the United

Grid League YouTube page, too.

It's a wild broadcast.

It is very much in the style

of like John Young's

broadcasting as opposed to

like a Sean Woodland type broadcasting.

But I was really impressed

with our friend Lauren.

She looked so strong like that.

The other athletes were not

doing as well with the

strength pieces that she was.

I just was I was I just felt

so much pride and joy for our friend.

And I texted her afterwards to tell her,

like, how awesome she was.

And and she said she's so

glad she said yes,

because she had she had so

much fun doing it.

Yeah.

When she was doing the thrusters,

she was fast.

I like their, uh,

their graphics were good.

Like it was, um,

very clear on like what it

was like your athletes have

to stand and these hash

marks for your reps to count.

If they're not there, you get a penalty.

It happens very fast though.

Like some of the matches are so short.

Like if you go in, I don't know,

go to your kitchen and grab

something to drink,

you come back and like,

there's a match that's done.

You're like, Oh,

They have these things

called like ringer points

that take literally like thirty seconds.

It seems like I'm sure it's

more than that.

It's probably like a minute

or two minutes or something,

but it just goes like so fast.

Did she get the only win for the team?

I don't know if she ever went solo.

Okay.

But she she never like

faulted on anything.

That's awesome.

And from her stories,

it looked like she had a

lot of fun because I think

it's her first time doing grid.

It is.

So it looked like, you know,

whether the team didn't

perform as well as they wanted,

they at least, you know,

made a good weekend.

Well,

and the other thing you have to

realize is that team is like all rookies.

Yeah.

that she's on and John's on.

And they went up against

like this super team of two

teams that folded and formed one team.

And they won the championship last year.

So they were going up

against the best in the league.

I am no grid expert by any means.

I just listened to the commentary.

but they I thought they held

their own against them

there were times they were

leading in events and they

would just get like out

touched at the end or

And the commentators were saying, like,

the Houston team,

which is Lauren and John's team,

just their transitions

weren't as fast as the

other team because they

just haven't done that style before,

right?

So, yeah,

I think they're going to be fine

in this league going forward,

but this was their first

match ever as a team.

Houston is an expansion team, essentially.

I mean,

none of these people really even

get to practice together, right?

They're all, all over.

So yeah,

it's going to be hard to do some

of those transitions if you

just meeting up with people

for the first time.

There's a workout where you

can never put the barbell on the ground.

The women have to front rack

and the men have to back rack.

They carry it to the next station.

There's that too.

There are elements that you

could technically add in

our team division stuff.

Some of the standards are

different than what we have in our sport.

Um,

I'm not even sure what is their

standard or, and whatnot.

So sometimes like as a

CrossFit athlete looking, you're like,

Ooh, but like, again, they have,

they have different rules.

So like by their rules, it counts.

Yeah.

We just,

we just have different styles of

doing it.

That's the hardest part of watching.

Yeah.

Uh, to be honest, it just is,

it's just a different standard.

It's not what I'm used to seeing.

It looks rough at times,

but if it's their standard

and what they count,

so but yeah it was fun for

like we had nothing going

on this weekend um from a

crossfit standpoint so like

it was fun to tune in for a

weekend and see my friends

competing um I know kelsey

keel was participating for

the first time ever this weekend too

didn't get to her match it

was one of the later

because they run them back

to back in the same arena

okay so just and they're

only like an hour to an

hour and fifteen minutes

long each I think an hour

fifteen so it's just like

you do one set up for the

next one the next one the

next one and they run four

matches back to back is

kelsey on the sharks too or

different sharks yeah okay

I think is dana on that one brand

as well I I didn't get to

those matches at all I just

saw kelsey's story yeah she

had she had a really good

time so I'll have to go

back and watch some of them

did I see um that you already got murphin

We did Murph as a gym yesterday.

Yep.

Three heats.

And then we do a barbecue at

the gym after in the afternoon.

So that was a good, really good day.

It was only like fifty,

maybe fifty five degrees here.

Man,

we haven't had a... It's been hot for

Murph the last few years.

Yeah.

This is a colder end of May for my region.

There was something that

said it's the coldest end

of May since like, yeah.

I don't remember a Murph being this cold.

I remember there's been some rainy days,

but...

It was definitely cooler,

which made the run nice.

You weren't dying out there.

Last year, I did the games version,

the five-rounder.

Last year, I did it that way.

This year,

I just wanted to see if I was

fitter than I have.

I feel fitter than I have in the past.

I was like, let's see if I can PR.

I did it straight through.

You did it on

unpartitioned yep straight

through pr'd how long that

take you forty four oh

seven oh six I was happy

with it runs were like

seven forty five some fifty

and then like eight eight

ten eight twelve yeah yeah

I uh I'm gonna do it tomorrow

I have an eight hundred meter loop,

so I'm going to walk half of it,

like little jog, a half walk,

and then I'm going to bike

the other half.

Okay.

And then, and then do it through.

Will you,

will you do like Cindy style or

you'll do it on partition?

Cindy style for sure.

Yeah.

Doing that many pushups in a row.

Like once I fail pushups, they're gone.

So like if I did them any other way,

I would, I'd be done early.

Lucas did the micro rounds,

the thirty three rounds of three, six,

nine, and then one round of one, two,

three at the end.

He's never he has never completed Murph.

uh he's always done like had

to like if you like I think

last year he's done did

tried the twenty rounds and

only got through like

fifteen rounds I was like

just stop go run like he

was already at like eighty

minutes or whatever I'm

like just stop there so he

did the whole darn thing

this year and crushed it

was like I don't know sixty

two minutes I'm so proud of

him when was the last time

you did it scott

um I did it last year but I

I did a scaled version like

a half maybe because I had

I hadn't done it in a few

years I did it last weekend

because that's when we do

it like in canada um yeah I

hadn't done it in maybe two

or three years because most

of the time I competed

semis that weekend yeah

uh-huh um so last year it

had been like five years for me

Yeah.

Or it was like the weekend before.

And I was like, no, I have to like,

you're practicing wads that

I've come out and stuff.

So it's like,

it hasn't worked out the last

few years for me to do it there.

So normally I either do it

like in the summer.

I don't know the time, but yeah.

Did you do it straight through?

No, I did ten rounds.

Okay.

Ten rounds of.

Ten, twenty, thirty.

Ten, twenty, thirty.

Yeah.

I hadn't done that version before.

But I did.

feet elevated ring row.

Okay.

Yup.

Um,

cause I didn't do any hanging this week

was the first week I did any hanging.

I started Friday was the

first day I did any hanging

and over basically three

weeks and like my shoulders

are so sore and I don't

really have too much shoulder problems.

Like,

but like just not kipping and opening

up and I'm like, Oh,

like I've just had felt

crunchy all weekend in the shoulders.

So that leads to this comment.

Meredith says,

is there any update on

Carolyn's fingernail biopsy?

I too have sensitive skin on my hands.

It reacts a lot to a lot of

things I touch.

I'm curious if they gave her a diagnosis.

They emailed me a bunch of

thingies from the biopsy,

but I meet with the doctor June second.

So following Monday.

Yeah.

He's a busy man, but he's like, yeah,

he's a nail specialist.

So hopefully he'll begin to

treat me to try to get rid of this.

But yeah,

it does get pretty sensitive on

certain materials like rope

climbs and barbell.

If I've touched for a while,

like I need to put grips on

or it just like it's burning.

Kenneth says,

I like the ten round version.

I tried the ten-round version, like,

early on in my CrossFit career.

And I just bogged down in the push-ups.

Like, I'm good at push-ups.

Like, I do good push-ups.

But I just hit a point where

then they just bogged down.

I'm doing, like, singles.

And, like, so it's really trying to, like,

find a groove of those that

I can continue through.

And so the Cindy just works better.

Do you do ring rows?

Yes.

I will this year for sure.

Yeah.

I've done it.

Like when I did my version, I was like,

Ooh, the ring was, were tough.

Cause like I put the feet

elevated just cause just to

challenge myself more, but yeah.

Just making it more strict

like that was different

because my pull-ups are really good,

so normally I can just fly through that.

For me,

it's just a push-up and how fast do

I run.

Those push-ups are tough,

but the pull-ups I'm

normally pretty good when I kick.

I've never done un-partitioned,

so one of these days I will.

Lex did it un-partitioned this weekend,

I think, so maybe next year I'll do it.

Ken does ten rounds if he's

without a vest.

He does twenty rounds if he does a vest.

Meredith says,

I set up a tent this weekend

to camp over Memorial Day.

My hands were not happy.

Yeah.

I learned early on in my marriage,

my twenty eight wonderful

years of marriage,

that camping would not be

in my future much.

We tried that once and then twice.

And both times my wife ended

up leaving and going home.

Yeah, like actual tent camping.

Correct.

Yeah.

Not my favorite either.

We have a travel trailer.

I can I can handle that.

I don't even think she could

handle that I like it it's

all the comforts of home

yeah I don't know um it's

this isn't on our rundown

but my daughter called last

night and she's she's

actually doing hard right

now uh-huh so they in that

you have to do one um

outdoor activity as

exercise she did a

three-hour hike yesterday wow

in the in the mountains for

the first time since she's

been out in montana and

just absolutely loved it

that's awesome um so it's

fun to she's she is the

happiest she has been since

high school um this move

has been awesome for her uh

justin collard now if I

like camping in front of

the fire at the ritz

carlton yeah yeah that's

that's our style now too

All right, so now just in the chat,

I guess we're going to dive

into the Alex Kazan situation.

You want to touch on this

comment from Emma?

Emma.

I saw it.

I took note of it.

Okay.

Yeah.

She wants to have Haley, Mario,

and Joshua.

I'd love to have them on.

They're great people.

I'll reach out if they're

willing to come on.

Right.

I do agree with her.

If there's going to be a platform,

they do speak up on that.

I think this would be a

really good place for them to do that.

Yeah.

I'm betting they will not talk about it.

I would bet not either.

In all of my dealings with them,

they're very professional

and I don't think they're

going to talk about it.

Do they help coach Brooke at all?

And this is what we're talking about,

just so you guys know.

Emma's asking if I would

have Haley and Josh Murillo on again.

And the reason is,

I feel like if they were

ever to share what happened

between them and Haley,

this would be the podcast

where they would do it.

Maybe they would, but I don't know.

I don't know if they ever would.

I just don't think that's them.

And I feel like even if

something did happen,

they're moving on from that

situation and are

one year removed from it and

have moved yeah I've moved

on so I'm not even sure

that they would even want

to touch that surface again

and bring that back to

social media yeah I mean

I've talked to haley about

it in private and she won't

even give details right so

I don't think public public

forum gets us any further

so um so yeah all right so

this week we had

admitted gummy gait taken at

the WFP where Alex Kazam

was on Talking Elite

Fitness said in a comment

that she had taken a gummy

to help her sleep and that

it does or could include

THC up to two milligrams or

something of that nature.

She then went to will after

the competition was completed and

and said hey I did this and

will said it's okay we've

taken that out you don't

need to worry about that

that has created um a crazy

stir of events all week um

I have made comments on my

lunch with the clydesdale

but I wanted to get your

two opinion on this if you care to share

I just don't – I mean, yeah,

it seems like it's been

handled through the WFP,

but if it's a banned

substance in CrossFit, it's – I mean,

I feel like she's opened up

a can of worms here.

And they've sort of – It's

only a banned substance in

competition in CrossFit.

Yeah, out of competition, it's allowed.

In competition, it's not allowed.

I see.

And then WFP removed the in competition.

Yeah.

Gotcha.

Yeah.

It's just that part,

which a lot of other

professional sports teams

have been slowly starting

to remove because it's been an issue.

I think in the professional sports, um,

I think it's good that they,

at least as soon as it happened,

like we'll put out a statement.

Now,

I don't know how much of that was

actually communicated to

the athletes in March.

Like, I don't know.

It wasn't March or.

Yeah.

Like, I don't like that part.

It seems like.

That they, they removed it in March.

And apparently a lot of

people have done research.

There was no communication

with the athletes at all

until Alex asked after this competition.

But like, I think that should be, if,

if that did happen,

that they removed it in

March and that's an if,

because I don't believe

that it happened in March,

but I'll say if I think

that it should be communicated.

So all the athletes know

that that's removed and not

after this happens,

because if other athletes

are in a similar situation

or they're used to doing

that on the regular, that's how,

like what they do.

it's a disadvantage to all

the other athletes that

didn't know about that change of rule.

Cause that's not a rule in CrossFit.

Right.

So, yeah, I mean.

So my, my thought is this, and I've,

I've echoed this.

Maybe I can do it more concisely here.

I believe that,

that in my mind in my

dealings with the people

involved will saxon alex

all of them deserve the

benefit of the doubt for me

None of them have lied to me.

None of them have treated me

disrespectfully.

Everything has been on the up and up.

So in my mind,

they deserve the benefit of the doubt.

I believe this is what happened.

I believe that the WFP met

with Drug Free Sport or

WADA or whoever is doing

the testing in March.

And they asked,

they went down through the list.

Are we testing for this, this, this, this?

And Will probably said no to THC.

they were having their

meeting with drug free

sport then from that point

forward he did not update

the paper right and that's

that's a life I live every

day in government a law

changes and it's on the

book says this is the law

that's changed the

documentation that's out

there to the public takes

forever to get updated

One,

because you forget or you can't find

it or it has to go through

communications and legal

and whatever to make sure

it's worded correctly or

any of that kind of stuff.

I believe that's what happened.

And in my mind,

they have the benefit of the doubt.

They have not done anything to me.

And so that is why I am saying that.

Everybody that's saying she

had an unfair advantage,

she was taking it thinking

that it was banned.

Right.

Until after the competition was over.

Cause she got,

cause she got drug tested

there and then was like, Oh,

I took this probably.

Yeah.

Cause she didn't mention it

to will till after.

See,

I think that's an athlete's

responsibility, though.

I mean,

I grew up in a testing sport of

hockey where I've been

tested with Taekwondo and

hockey since I was about

fifteen years old.

So like I'm very aware of

everything I've ever consumed,

anything on the shelves.

I was like always told none

of that can be in your system.

Like you have to know even

if like there's some THC

that like like I've always

known as an athlete that

you can't take that.

And like,

I've stayed away from any of that stuff,

like my whole life.

Um,

but there's like a responsibility as an

athlete to know that, I mean,

it's good that she, um,

went forward and told will, um,

and then they had, you know,

remove that and whatnot.

But I still think that it

was a careless moment from

Alex because she could be,

could have been suspended if,

if there wasn't,

if there was enough in the system,

I don't know what the

actual amount that you need in your,

but I think it was a lack of

judgment on her part during the weekend.

And it's, she's lucky, honestly,

that it could have been a suspension.

Right.

Yeah.

Now do I think that it

should be on the list?

No.

Cause like,

I don't think it's a

performance enhancing substance.

Um, but by the rules, um,

I think she should have been

smarter about that.

Justin says, I was there.

I heard what Will said.

She mentioned it.

He immediately responded, oh,

I took that out.

We don't test for that.

And that's why I believe

that he probably met with

the testers and said, hey,

don't test for that anymore,

but did not update any of the documents.

And while I think that it is

his responsibility to

update those documents,

I live in a world where that

happens all the time.

Yeah.

And so I'm not excusing it.

I'm just saying it is a

common blunder with law

rule and rule changes to

get all of the front facing

documents changed.

I agree with Carolyn.

This is from Justin mistake,

taking it mistake,

bringing it up in a podcast.

Like,

it could have really ruined her whole

season.

And she's one of our top

athletes in the sport, right?

Like,

it's... She's really lucky that WFP

took that out of that weekend.

Because they could have...

She didn't know until she

talked to Will after the competition.

Like, after she had already consumed it.

So, like...

But again,

I don't think that it should be

necessarily banned, but per the rules.

Yeah, definitely a mistake on that part.

And then a lack of

communication on will to

the athletes as well.

But now everything is out.

on in terms of like,

everyone knows that that's

allowed on the WFP side.

It is not allowed still on

the CrossFit side.

So if you're going to a

CrossFit sanctioned event,

you need to be aware of

what goes in your body on, you know,

out of competition and

certainly in competition as

well with the risks of being tested.

Um,

But I do like that she was

forward facing in terms of, you know,

responding to things.

And then once everything

kind of settled and she

knew that she was in the clear,

I think then could make a

joke about it with her video,

which was hilarious.

Yeah, that was funny.

But you don't make that

video until you're kind of

more at ease with the

situation and have a

response from the WFP

saying everything is good.

Because before then,

I think she was also like

backtracking and nervous

and concerned for sure,

as probably Justin was as well.

And I'm sure they've had a

long chat since that podcast.

We don't know if it would

have even come up as a

positive as it was a microdose of THC,

but without question, can't do it.

Yeah.

I...

My only issue with all of

this is like every time

something comes out from the WFP,

it's like everybody's just

bam down their throat.

Bam.

Let's find out what's wrong with this.

Bam, bam, bam.

Right.

And and this is just another

one where like nobody's

given the benefit of the doubt.

I've known Saxon Panjik

since almost for almost ten years.

And I don't know if there's

a more trustworthy guy that

I have met in this space than him.

And this was their first ever event.

Like that's a lot of stuff

to goes into that.

And a lot of things to a lot

of ducks to have in a row.

And it just, it just was tough.

So I just remember like, growing up, like,

like, we had a lot of meetings on, like,

supplement stuff,

like when I was very young, and like,

it was like ingrained in our, like,

teams, like, like you're not,

if you're at a convention center,

you're not, you know,

testing anything that they're sampling.

And like, it's like, we were like drilled,

like with meetings and

meetings on like supplement stuff.

And I feel like I've seen a

lot of careless stuff in

our sport and people just

share each other's

pre-workouts and whatnot,

without any concern of what

other people have in their drinks.

Um,

Like it's maybe I come from

like a different sport that

like we were tested much

more and I've only been

tested out of competition

once in my whole CrossFit career,

which is crazy to me.

Um, yeah, recently.

Yeah.

Like I've gone tested like at,

at a competition after

podium or something like that.

But in terms of like out of

competition once.

I just feel like a lot of

people are extremely

careless in what they take.

They don't look for

supplements that have the

informed sport or NSF.

They take whatever.

They share each other's drinks.

It's just...

There's samples of things

and they don't even go and

look whether that company

has any third-party testing

and stuff like that.

I don't know if there needs

to be more education in our

sport if people come from

different backgrounds.

I don't know.

I mean, to me, if they test positive,

see ya.

But I just think people are

not very smart with that kind of stuff.

I I've actually been with

Saxon at events where he is.

Someone said, Hey, try this protein bar.

And he'll just throw it in the garbage.

Like, even if it's something that it says,

it's like, okay.

He's like,

I don't know what they've done to it.

I don't know what,

if it's been manipulated or

anything like that.

And so.

Yeah.

People just,

you have to be that diligent

as an athlete.

If you want to make sure

that you do not test positive.

Especially like a

professional level when you

know that there's testing.

All right.

An athlete's agent agents

managers keep talking about

wanting CrossFit to be a

professional sport that

goes with the territory from media.

Okay, I don't disagree.

I wonder if CrossFit would

put a message and be like,

because I would have wanted

CrossFit to be like,

while we see that this rule is the WFP,

we still are going to be

testing for this in the

CrossFit space because we believe blah,

blah, blah, blah.

I get that they don't care about the WFP,

but I feel like CrossFit

should also make a

statement in our sport that

make sure to look up, you know,

the rules and regulations

and what is prohibited and not,

and that you're up to date

on new substances that are

added to the list,

including in competition THC.

And I don't want it lost what you said,

Carolyn,

and that is that the WFP put out

a press release about this.

That never happens in CrossFit.

And I thought that was great

that they went forward

right away with like

addressing the big issue

that was that situation.

I have said this over and over again.

The amount of communication

I get from the WFP compared

to what I get from CrossFit

is a one eighty.

Like they send out press

releases all the time to an

email list of media members.

And so I don't have to go

searching on six different

Instagram accounts as to

where it might be released

or a YouTube video.

I get an actual press release from them.

So margaritas at Jamie's,

is that what I'm hearing?

Erin just got me more water.

Yes,

he did put kind of a lot of ice in it.

I had plenty of margaritas yesterday.

I'm struggling a bit.

welcome to the hangover

jamie yeah is that what

happens at a barbecue after

murph yes hey you're tim oh

I have not I have not had

an alcoholic beverage in so

long I don't even know what

they taste like anymore I

just don't like the taste

like I don't like the taste

of beer and I don't like

wine so the only thing I

can drink is like vodka

mixed drink and like I don't crave vodka

So it's like very easy for

me not to drink.

Like I used to have some

drinks like with my hockey team,

like when I would play

different weekends and stuff,

but now I'm like, eh,

I don't really care for it.

It's been a while since I've had a drink.

Before this podcast,

I had a craft beer podcast.

I love the taste of beer.

Although everybody's told me

since I've quit drinking

for like now it's going on

eighteen months or so.

Like I will not like the

taste of beer when I go

back because it is an acquired taste.

And if you've been without

it for a long time, all of a sudden,

like that's what I'm being told.

Yeah.

If I ever try it again,

I won't like the taste again.

Ken Walter says hockey teams

don't have only some drinks.

Yeah.

I mean,

I did go to a good good school in

Wisconsin that

It was good times.

Edging says,

can lead to an allergy where

you wake up in handcuffs.

A friend told me so.

Oh, boy.

Wow.

All right.

So through that, Labatt's or Molson's.

I actually like Canadian

beer is actually really good.

Am I your American beers were awful.

When I know like when I went

to the States and like our

hockey team had like beers

which I would rarely ever

ever have like drink but no,

they're like watered down.

Wow, we have all kinds of beer.

I mean, but yes, you're like Bud Lights.

Yeah, it's like it's like water.

Yeah.

I can't handle the American

domestic beers and that's, that's just,

what's bad because the

other ones are much more

highly caloric than that.

And it's just bad.

Uh,

Ken says that Madison's Halloween is

the best college party ever.

No,

the Mifflin block party is the craziest

one that happened like in the springtime.

It's like this one street where it's,

everyone is just on the

street drinking and people

off their balconies are throwing

alcohol to people it's crazy

um all right we could go

down a long talk of beer

and parties yeah um let's

go on to we had the first

road to the games released

did you guys get a chance

to see that I have not seen

it I did oh my gosh jamie

you were so quick I know

this week was just busy for

me lucas's last week at

school there's I don't know

it was just a busy week

So it featured Colton

Mertens and Austin Hatfield.

I thought if I'm going to review this,

and if I'm reviewing, it's my opinion.

I'm going to put that out there first.

I thought it was better than

what they've been doing,

but left me wanting a little bit more.

So I would put it at the B

plus A minus area.

Okay.

and to be fair, I'm a CrossFit nerd.

So I know a lot about Colton.

I know a lot about Austin going into this.

So I wanted to know more.

Does that make, does that make sense?

Yeah.

And I thought the same.

I mean, I, I, I mean,

I thought it was good.

I mean, I like CrossFit content, um,

like I think hillar has done

you know better videos on

athletes um and their

stories and a little bit

longer too like theirs is

what like twenty-ish

something minutes twenty

minutes yeah it's just over

twenty twenty yeah and I

don't think that they need

to be like two too long

because I think that you

know in that twenty to

thirty minute range um but

yeah like maybe a little

bit more of their lives and

stuff like I mean I guess

we saw a lot of chick-fil-a for

um austin and a little bit

of colton's work on the

farm but not too too much

so what I'm going to

compare everything to this

season is the laura horvat

wfp video I did really like

that one and the hopper

hiller video I thought

those are the two piece

best pieces of content

we've had this year so I

would put it below those for sure

but I would put it above

like the Adler WFP video.

I thought it had a little

more substance than that one.

The best parts were like

Allie and Colton digging

post holes and their

interaction through that.

I wanted more of that.

To me,

that was more about like his

day-to-day life.

I'm done with the work.

I don't need to see them train.

Right.

And there's a lot of like

watching them train and I get it.

It's a fitness thing.

And,

So to me, that's that.

And again,

these are like Julian Eifert's

in here saying Alexis

Raptus was better than Hofford Hopper.

They were two different styles.

I also think it depends on

the personality of the athlete,

like how much they're willing to,

to talk and really express themselves.

Like there's just athletes

that are just more.

Like Colton's a lot more

chirpy type of athlete,

but in terms of as deep

into a conversation,

I don't know that he really

goes super deep into this

private life and, um,

like day to day stuff.

Like, like I think, I think there's,

it just depends on where

the conversations go with people.

Yeah.

Like Hopper is someone

that's just more open,

which is why I think I like

the Laura one because we

haven't seen her be as open.

So seeing an athlete that

you don't see that side, you know,

and go a little bit deeper

into their background as a child,

I think that that is more interesting.

So Ken says Hillers,

Haley and Domitz were good.

They were good.

Hoppers was another level to

me because he dug into that,

that Vermont piece and how

that affected Hopper and

how he almost quit CrossFit altogether.

Like I,

that's what made that one better

storytelling to me.

The Raptus one in the hot

tub like was fun and it was

very different and I really enjoyed it,

but it didn't hit the

storytelling level of the

Hopper and the Horvat one.

Yeah.

The Horvat one where she goes back to her,

her like grade school and all that,

like that stuff was really,

really fun to watch.

And the relationship between her and,

and her brother was really good too.

you hear all these rumors

and you know the stupid

insinuations and and

they're just like a really

good close family yeah well

I mean that that's like

stupid rumors like they're

just yeah like brother

sister and supportive of

each other I think anyone

that goes that way has but

it was nice to see it in that fashion too

that she kind of chased

around him when he was an

athlete and she was coming

up and wanted to be an athlete.

And like,

that was the cool storytelling part.

That's, that's all I'm saying.

And CrossFit used to be really good at it.

And I think we got to,

we fell too much in love

with the workout porn.

Yeah.

But I think both of those

athletes have very similar

type personalities.

Sure.

Like,

like Austin and like,

they're kind of just like

quiet workhorse is like, maybe,

maybe if you would have

paired two different

athletes that have a lot

different backgrounds,

you would have seen a

little bit more contrast in,

in their stuff.

I don't know.

Um, I think they'll get better as,

as it goes along and you

get different personalities.

Huge shout out to Leah Nichols,

who just became a member of our channel.

That's my cousin.

Thank you so much for that, Leah.

And everybody's bringing up

cool memories of Brooke

Entz and Marston having the

fight at regionals,

that that had the drama and

the tea that everybody wanted.

Josh Bridges running up the

street shirtless.

The Smith brothers working

out in the cul-de-sac.

that's when CrossFit was

really good at storytelling.

Those are the memorable ones.

Those are the ones we all

love to tune in to see.

And I think they just have

to get reps in again.

They went away from doing

these stories and now

they've got to get back in

and it's going to take some

reps to get back into that

full swing of things.

Yeah, I agree.

All right.

We know what the first event

of the CrossFit Games is.

Excited.

Same old.

Yeah.

We're the same old.

Run, swim, run, run, row, run,

run or swim kayak.

Like it's the same start.

I wish that like I didn't

always start with a long

endurance events.

I think it's the same people

that get an advantage,

like get confidence to

start the week where it's

like put that sometimes.

And I understand that, you know,

less people have arrived by

the Thursday or Fridays normally.

And it's an event you kind

of want to get out of the way.

But you give the same people

an advantage every single competition.

Same type of leaders,

same endurance athletes.

And like you just get

confidence and you start

rolling and you feel better.

And in our sport,

like confidence is a big thing.

Like if you started with a

different type of workout,

like a more CrossFit workout,

like I bet you like

sometimes the whole weekend changes.

You get a leader's jersey.

You get something.

You get a top five, top ten.

All of a sudden, your first event,

you're like, heck yeah, let's go.

Now you're all pumped.

You start the weekend at the

thirtieth place, twenty-fifth place,

and it's a hole to dig out of.

You're in your own head after that.

I would just like for it to

start differently than just

a long endurance every single time.

I think it's needed.

I'm not saying it's not needed.

It is needed.

I think there's different

ways that they could do it,

like multiple rounds.

four time or different than

just like a long like that

I think would be better to

watch because this one has

been done um but I would

just like to see it start

differently than the same

people that get leaders

jersey I mean on the

woman's side we only really

see one person on put the

leader's jersey but yeah um

imagine velner not starting

in a hole it makes a big

difference here um

It could be half the

distance and still the same

people would win.

Best runners are going to dominate.

Yeah, I mean, it's a running workout.

Like, you're not, I mean,

you're not making up that

much time on the row unless, like,

you've cramped or something.

Then you will on the run.

You mean Yonikoski?

Well, CrossFit,

Yonikoski is not qualified yet.

He's been one place out, like,

in six different spots.

But maybe he'll get in.

If Tia goes, I think she does.

I do too,

but she has not said anywhere

that she's retiring.

She's going, um, my only,

my biggest problem with

this event is the

announcement that it's the

community event.

This is an hour long hour plus event.

and this is what you want

the community to come jump

into and participate with, that's a lot.

I also don't think it's a

good look because it's a

specialist workout.

You could have literally

some high rocks people come

here and smoke the scores

of the CrossFit Games athletes.

A hundred percent will smoke

some of the elite fifteens and stuff.

If you grab a more

CrossFit-y workout for the

community to do,

I think it would entice more people to

in the community and then

can actually compare to the elites.

Julian Eifert says, hour for who, Scott?

Well, not me, because I mean,

I'm talking a good ninety

minute plus in my heyday.

But like Jamie could

probably do this in an hour or less.

And like she jumped in on

the five K when it was a

community event a couple of years ago.

again now we've had two

community events it's only

been done twice and it's

been a five k and a six

mile run with a three

thousand meter row where's

the fun stuff to get people

like into crossfit right

this is nothing that's

going to like entice

somebody to go to a

crossfit gym I can do this in my backyard

It's their opening High Rocks event,

basically.

Right, that's what it feels like.

Is Mirror Jam is qualified?

Yeah.

I'm very curious how she does at this.

Was she an Elite Fifteen individual?

I don't know.

I mean, I really only know, like, the...

the jacobson girl or

whatever lauren makes um I

can't think like I can't

think of anyone out of the

top five really in my mind

so I I it isn't ringing a

bell to me because I think

her run I don't know if her

run is her strongest point

of the high rocks right

Ken Walter says like bench

press and deadlifts.

Well, you say that,

but like deadlifts is an

easy move to teach.

You could put deadlifts with

a couple other movements,

maybe some sandbag cleans,

something like that.

Something easy.

That's not like a bunch of

barbells out on the floor

and run a couple of heats of that.

Get people involved.

Stop with the, the five K runs.

I mean, this is,

this does not excite me as

a community member to take part in.

I don't know.

And like,

as you're trying to sell tickets

right now too, right?

Like just a more,

are they trying fire sale?

Is the sale still on?

I think it's ended.

Yes.

It ended.

Yeah.

They're still only percent

off from all the athletes.

And they get a kickback, which is nice.

They do.

They get fifty bucks every

time someone buys tickets.

That's pretty good.

Do we think that the tickets

are just going for too much?

I think they were very expensive,

like they're so expensive now,

and I get like when the demand was there,

but.

I don't know,

I feel like I also think

putting it on either coast.

takes away half of your

population to come to the games.

You only have diehard people

flying from California or from overseas.

If you have it in Wisconsin,

it's in the middle of the country.

People will then come

halfway for some reason.

It just doesn't seem like as

much of a trip.

Yeah.

So I don't,

I think it's a little bit of everything.

Plus this is the biggest

arena they've ever had by a lot.

Like it's Madison was only

like four or five thousand.

This is a twelve thousand seat arena.

No,

Madison was more than four to five at

that.

Oh, come on.

At that area.

In the Coliseum.

Come on.

Yeah, I think it was five.

I thought it was more than five.

No way.

Really?

That whole one side didn't have any seats.

It was all blocked off where

you went out for the runs.

Just the one year.

Well, they,

or they put like a VIP area or.

Yeah.

I like, I mean,

I think Madison was so

great because you could get the,

it was like under two

hundred bucks for the festival ticket.

Right.

And still get to see it.

I mean, you got it just.

And back then the masters,

you could walk around and

go through the age group

and their little like

facility or if they were on North Park.

Yeah.

All the other ones were in the Coliseum.

Like there was stuff to do there.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Hard to fly into.

You have to go to Milwaukee or Chicago.

Dane Airport is pretty small.

Dane County Airport.

Hotels maybe were not as many.

You have to go about twenty

minutes away for some of them.

But the venue is great.

The city is great.

You all right there, Scott?

Yeah, Scott, you done?

It is Cottonwood season.

It's been so bad these last couple days.

I hated that arena in Madison.

I thought the seats were so uncomfortable.

I thought...

I liked it as an overall venue.

I liked it for the outdoor park.

I liked it because

everything was kind of

consolidated together,

but enough spread out where

you could get to everything.

The arena itself meant nothing to me.

When we were at Fort Worth last year,

the seats were super comfortable.

It was a beautiful arena.

It was brand new.

But of course,

it's going to have bad

memories and all of that stuff.

So anyway, I mean, in Madison, like that,

that area is isn't even

used during the year, like at all.

It's a parking lot.

Like nobody goes there.

And there's like some random concerts now.

Like it used to be one of

the hockey rinks like long,

long time ago before the Kohl Center.

And like it's these random

little concerts that are there.

So like for what they turn

that space when the games would go there,

like it.

Cause I, I mean, I live there,

so it's really,

it was really cool to see

how it transformed.

And then once they were gone,

like it was empty.

Um,

fluffy fit says the lack of

international travel to the

U S also has an impact and it, and it,

I'm sure it does.

There's ten less individuals,

ten less teams,

fans of these athletes would be missing.

Do you think we're missing

the masters and the teens

and stuff like for like

people that are bringing

their families and stuff like that?

See,

I knew it was more than five thousand.

There's no way they put ten

thousand people in there.

Yeah,

I'm pretty sure it was like ten to

eleven thousand.

I mean, it may have that capacity.

I just I don't know.

Didn't feel like that to me.

Like,

Texas just seems so big last year

compared to it.

And what's Albany?

Fifteen?

I just heard Dave say in

that when they did the open

announcement with Hopper

and Pepper and Tyson Bajent and Sprague,

that it was the biggest

arena they'd had so far.

fluffy fit said madison

looked empty the last year

it was not empty it was

only empty in non final

heats of individuals yeah

to get spots definitely

from a north park was

always packed and then yeah

the coliseum was pretty

packed once it was the final heat team's

More empty.

Individuals would end,

and it would empty out,

and then the teams would

come on the floor to nobody in the crowd,

except for Jamie.

True.

So, yeah.

And I'm really not disputing you, Jenny,

on this.

I think your numbers are probably correct.

It just didn't have that feel to me.

That's all.

Ooh, Albany Olds, seventeen-five.

Wow.

Okay.

They should have downsized.

I agree.

That makes sense why it's

hard to sell for that much.

Yeah.

Because if it was the same

size and we're not selling

out significantly more.

Five times bigger.

Yeah.

No wonder you're not selling up.

Now all the prime locations are sold.

If you look at the finish line,

they're all sold.

It's really just around the arena.

So, all right, let's do some, um,

CrossFit factor fiction

every morning before I get

into my CrossFit stuff,

I watch get up on ESPN and

they play a game called factor fiction.

And they may,

I give you a statement and

you tell me if it's a fact

or if it's fiction and why.

Are we ready to play?

Yep.

Yep.

Factor fiction.

CrossFit doesn't care about

the team's division.

I'm going to, I'm going to say fact,

but I would almost say

fiction just out of the

fact that they're still there.

Yeah.

With the individuals,

like everyone else has

gotten cut and moved and, and yeah,

like the teams are still

there with the individuals and,

They get the venue.

They get the stuff.

But yeah,

they're me and they're... Fiction

from my experience on the demo team,

I feel like we tested more

of the team workouts than

we did the individuals.

But that makes sense because

everything would have been

more tested maybe prior

with the individuals.

And then more of the bigger

apparatus stuff on the turf

needed to be testing there.

I still think they cared

about the teams because they were

tweaking a lot of stuff.

Did Dave care about the teams?

No,

because like we were like middle of the

wad and he just left.

We were not fast enough on

one of the wads and he just like,

he left.

Jenny actually made a point

in her update the other day where at TFX,

the teams were actually

more popular than the

individual athletes.

And I think it goes back to

that regional approach to

teams where you're bringing

not just the family members of the team,

but the gym members of the

team because they're coming

to support the whole thing.

And I think that's a part of

the equation that we've

lost in all of this shuffle is

is at the qualifying events,

teams are super important,

and we've eliminated them

because they're only online

to get to the games.

And so we've lost that draw along the way,

and I think that is

something that is missing

from the equation.

Totally agree.

Which makes you feel like

CrossFit has just pushed

them to the back.

You feel like they don't care about them.

I mean, the online semifinals?

Shit show.

Yeah.

Yes.

Complete shit show.

Like, no care there.

They even look at a single video.

Correct.

But then they didn't really

look at many for the individuals either,

because it was just the

ones that had a lot of downvotes.

Any other one, they didn't look at.

So...

And so I think that in a

cost-cutting thought process,

you forget what this entity

over here brought to your package.

Yeah.

Yeah, you need people.

Teams bring a bunch of

people to any competition.

and removing that,

removing even the masters,

like it was good for them to,

it's good for them to have

their own competition.

Don't get me wrong,

but they do bring a lot of

people and a lot of spending.

Like,

could they fill seventeen five

hundred just individuals?

No, like you need the team.

So I feel like they're still

using the teams for that.

But we know who the twenty teams are.

And apparently they're not

buying enough tickets

because they're forty percent off.

And I think Ken said up here

and I don't know if.

If you're just saying here for it's true,

but he said, like,

if you bought tickets before the sale,

they're giving you two free

tickets for friends.

If it's a joke, it's funny.

If it's real, it's sad.

Well,

you feel kind of got if something

comes out like this and you

are the one that bought early.

So I can see them.

I'm sure people were

complaining and wanted something.

All right.

Fact or fiction.

CrossFit has become

completely hands-off with

the sports season up until the games.

Fact.

Yeah.

You saw that with the online

video review and yeah,

they're outsourcing everything,

outsourcing the programming,

outsourcing the events.

No looking over any of the events,

no looking over videos.

No, it's just once the athletes are there,

they'll program the open

and they'll program their stuff.

But right now,

like most of the season to get there,

there's.

They've outsourced the video

review to the public.

They didn't even do the

video review for the teams.

They have outsourced all the

in-person qualifying events.

They're letting them make their own rules.

Which I think is dumb.

Yeah.

Final one.

Fact or fiction.

Mayhem athlete programs

every CrossFit event.

Fact.

And if they're not programming,

they have athletes testing

them so they know the workouts.

They know the workouts to

every single event.

It's such bullshit.

Well, they didn't program Torian, correct?

I'm sure they had someone test it.

Torian is greatly programmed.

I really like their programming.

I do really like their programming.

It's great.

That one's my favorite

programming out of any of

the comps so far.

I love that they're not

doing heavy as well.

Me too.

Thank God.

I'm jealous of their programming.

How do you really feel, Carolyn?

I really like the Torian one.

Yeah.

Ken gets it.

Question three hit the score spot.

Yeah.

Well, I just think that it's such a non,

like it's so disadvantaged

for other athletes.

Like it's,

I don't think a training camp

should be programming for

sending people to the games.

I don't care if,

they don't tell their athletes or whatnot.

It's the fact that you're

still training these athletes.

It doesn't look good.

It doesn't look good.

Just like when you have a

well sister on the demo

team and the other one's competing,

it doesn't look good.

You can't have people

testing your workouts.

Don't tell people, you know,

James Sprague on the demo team,

other people, tutor, whatever,

like you can't have buddies

of people testing workouts.

It's hard to find.

I get that.

But the appearance of them

programming everything,

it's not a good look.

Yeah.

Benita says appearance of

conflict of interest.

Absolutely.

And I'm not saying that they're telling,

I'm just saying it doesn't look good.

In a sport of unknown,

you can't have that.

In a sport of unknown,

you can't have that.

If they're going to do it,

they need to have like a

clear delineation between

the person that programs

and the rest of the entity.

And I don't know how you can

do that when you own the company.

Right.

And I just think you need to

find someone that's going to program.

season like take care of the

semifinals and that's the

responsibility for the year

and if you're not able to

do it pick someone else but

they can't be related to a

training camp and stuff

like that it's not an

appearance it is a conflict

of interest that major yeah

it's like it's so dumb

And like, yeah,

we'll still show up and

compete and everyone does

their best and their

athletes may not qualify,

but it's still doesn't look good to me.

It's not professional at all.

All right.

We're going to keep that

game off to come up with

new categories every week.

But I like, I like that game.

Yeah.

I have to come up with a

couple that aren't facts though.

I need some things that are fiction.

I gave you two fictions there.

Uh, Clinton, he says, WFP nailed this.

We'll did all the

programming and will and

Saxon did all the testing.

Yeah.

Keep it small.

Nobody knows.

That's the thing is you need

to have someone that's

either like knows the time domains,

knows the stimulus,

doesn't need to have a bunch of testers.

Right.

And if you're not that person,

then you need to do your

homework and study a lot more CrossFit.

Yeah.

Because you should be able

to program a workout and

have a pretty good idea of –

where the top scores are and

where the bottleneck is for

your average field of athletes.

Like you need to study more

competitions and results of

different types of workouts

so that you're able to

program and not need all of

these people to test your

workouts and all of these

people come to coming together.

Like a few people,

I think to program like two,

maybe three at most.

Once you start going more to that,

like around that, it's just,

it's a bunch of leaks.

Yeah.

Fact or fiction,

it's okay that Will didn't

have a female test the events.

I don't know.

I mean, Carolyn's right.

You should be able to look

at time domains.

You should be able to know

what thirty wild balls takes.

You should be able to.

But it would be nice if you had a woman.

I don't think you need to,

but I think you need to

study the sport and know

that the same amount of

legless rope climbs,

the females are not there.

It's a different workout for females.

If you want to get the same

workout stimulus of what

your brain is thinking of

putting on paper,

then you need to study more

the female side.

If you've only focused on

the male side because

that's where you competed your whole life,

I think that you have to take

you know,

take a look at a lot of different

samples of different events.

What is the number of

legless rope climbs that

females are able to do in

this time domain paired with, you know,

grip intensive stuff?

What is it?

What is it like paired with a cardio?

What is it like paired with

a shoulder fatigue?

Because all of those like

impact how good some,

some of the females are in

certain movements where we

lag behind like the males.

Yeah.

So I don't think you need to,

But I think that you should

be studying constantly.

Fluffy Fitz is maybe didn't

didn't say who he has said

on Boys Interrupted that it

was just him and Saxon.

And Jackson did somebody

didn't get really any good

data from that.

Garrett says fiction.

Fiction, not cool, bro.

Right.

All right, cool.

Yeah, I like that.

We'll have to bring that

back as we move forward.

All right,

previewing the four events

coming up this weekend.

Four, count them,

four events this weekend.

We have Syndicate Crown,

we have Fari Throwdown,

we have the Taurean Pro,

and we have Rebel Renegade Games.

Let's start with the

Syndicate Crown event.

And here is the men's lineup

for the syndicate crown.

No kale.

No cow.

Yeah, Lehman.

CrossFit Instagram should be

posting a lot more about

these four events coming up

and really pumping people

towards where they can

watch it this weekend and whatnot.

I just went quickly on the

CrossFit Games website.

If the events have tagged them,

they'll accept some of the tagging,

but they should be all week,

especially with four events going on,

really...

driving people to those

competitions whether it's

online or to the actual

venues on where people can

purchase tickets I think

there's there can be a

better job there so I have

seen versions of this with

kale layman crossed off

yeah I have to I don't know

if it's official because I

did not I only saw it on

like killer site and some

other people I have not

seen anything from

syndicate I'm saying that

that would be interesting

Here we have, again,

it's a little bit of a depleted field.

I'll hit you with the highlights.

Ben Smith is going to be there.

George Sterner, Jack Rosema, Ty Jenkins,

Spencer Pancheck, Seth Stovall,

Luke Parker.

Who are your picks to get

the two spots from that group of people?

I like Jack Rose.

I think Ty will be

competitive fighting for

one of those spots.

George Sterner will be in the mix.

Spencer,

he's had some good comps and then

he's had some comps where he's

struggled a little bit.

He wasn't at WFP, was he?

No.

Mayhem.

I'm trying to think who will

do good at these events.

The Ron Yoke and the Hundreds.

I think this is Seth Stovall's time.

I think Seth is going to

have an excellent shot out of this.

He was just out last year, right?

He was right outside.

So my pick is Seth,

and I'm going to go with Jack Rosema.

I don't think he's a good enough runner.

I think that one's going to hurt him,

the run yoke,

and I actually don't think

he's going to do excellent

at the hundreds either.

But I could be wrong.

Well, pick your names then, ma'am.

I don't – I mean – I do

think Seth is – He'll be in

the mix for sure, yeah.

Yeah.

I don't know enough about Ty –

Luke would be my other thought process,

just being a mayhem athlete.

And it's not,

it's not very top heavy though.

It's wide open.

Like there's no shoe in here.

No, I don't take us as Seth and Luke.

Yeah.

Um, Kenneth delapses.

I'm going with Jenkins and Parker.

I don't know.

I don't know enough about Ty.

It's like, I don't know if he's an,

a good runner.

I don't know if he's a good

endurance athlete.

Like, will he survive that hundreds?

I know he's really strong I

don't know about his

running ability right like

I feel like he could be

kind of like jack like

they're like I think jack's

gonna I mean jackson

crushed the heavy isabel

but I think there's gonna

be some others that sort of

hurt him all right let's go

the women's side uh we have

the well sisters we have

caroline stanley um elizabeth wisharts

erica folo haley rolfe uh

kira miller christine best

kyra milligan lexi neely

lydia fish shelby neal

Any picks on this one?

I like Caroline Stanley.

I think she's well-rounded.

She's a good runner.

She's strong, good gymnast.

I think no major holes in her games.

I expect her to take a spot

from this field.

I think Brooke can have another spot here.

I think those two are the

two front runners for me in this field.

And then in the mix...

Um, I'll root for my friend,

Elizabeth Wishart.

Um,

follow should do well on some of these.

Shelby hasn't had a great

start to the year.

I don't know if she has an injury,

if she'd just been busy

with school or work or

something like that.

She didn't look particularly

herself at mayhem because

normally I'm a huge, uh, Shelby Neal fan.

Um,

I'm gonna say Rachel closing.

Okay, eight day team member.

She's incredible.

Her endurance is incredible.

She's in it.

I think she'll do really

well in the hundreds and the run yoke.

I am going to take Caroline

Stanley is the shoe in.

And then my second place I'm

taking Lexi Neely.

Like Kyra will be really

good at a lot of these.

It's just the one running

that she has to survive.

And unfortunately,

I just don't know that the

other ones will have as low

of a finish that she may

have on that one.

But Kyra's got some good

skills on some of these

workouts that are coming out.

Lexi made the games last year,

and I think she's only gotten better.

And I really think she has a chance.

So that's my pick.

all right so that is the

syndicate crown so let's go

to the next one which is I

think the far east which

they did not right they're

the ones that didn't

they're the ones on

competition I gotta change

this then they're on yeah here we go

Far East Throwdown.

Well, my big question going into this is,

and my question on the last one was,

do the Wells sisters qualify?

Because it's their last opportunity,

pretty much.

This would be the first year

that one of them hasn't qualified,

if they both, right?

I think that Sydney has

signed up for NorCal right now.

I mean, at this point,

anyone that doesn't qualify

through here is going to

get an invite at NorCal

because they're just inviting anyone.

last minute.

Um,

so who knows how many of these athletes

will join the last game?

I think they both have a good shot.

I think, yeah, I think they've,

I think Brooke has a better shot.

She's less holes than Sydney,

but they finished

relatively close to each other.

I think in the WFP, right, right,

right next to each other, maybe.

So Sydney is catching up on,

on a lot of her, um, fitness.

All right,

so I don't know a lot of these names.

I'm going to give you what I know.

I know Amy Hosking is,

we've had her on the show a

couple times for semifinal series.

She's from Canada.

Dwan Young made it to the games last year,

correct?

Yeah.

Janine.

Leah Storen will do well here.

Leah Storen.

Is this the one that doesn't have a run?

I don't think this one has a run.

Or one of the events will have a run.

So here, Kaya.

She's a young choice here,

but she's already qualified.

I think it's between Kaya and Storen.

Broke it.

There we go.

No running, but a one rep max jerk,

according to Dew.

So here we only get one

invite to the games.

We double check that before the show.

I think it's Zaheer Kaya.

Her and Shung Young Choi

have dominated for a long time.

You've invited other people now.

I think Storen is right there with Kaya.

They're both,

they're both Kriger athletes too,

I believe.

Krieger, Krieger, how do you say it?

Krieger.

Krieger.

Okay.

And then on the men's side,

it's a tough time.

When you have fields like

this that don't have the depth,

it becomes one, two, one, two, one.

You have one bad event and you're screwed.

We saw that happen with Guy

a few years ago in Brazil.

Right?

So if you have a hole,

when the field isn't deep like this,

like you better hope that

that one person that you're

just always going back and

forth with has some sort of

execution error or something like that.

Cause these types of comps

are hard because like no

one's getting in between.

You're always in the mix.

You're one error away from losing it.

Those are stressful type of competitions.

I got to be honest with you.

I am not deep on my Far East men.

No one from outside of?

I don't really see anybody from outside.

Ricardo Garcia, I'm assuming,

is from outside, but I don't

What about Haynes?

He is here.

But what?

He's like thirty nine now.

Yeah.

Elia Mark.

Is that the one that could

be a weightlifter?

Was that the one that

couldn't travel last year

or one of those?

Maybe that guy.

I don't know why.

Maybe the name just sounds familiar.

Mark Mucker off.

Yeah.

Didn't last year they have

like five people test positive.

That's why I recognize that name.

And maybe one of the

athletes had the same first

name and maybe that's what

I'm getting confused with.

So that depleted the, the,

the lot a lot as well,

but there's aunt Haynes, um,

Andre Fedotov.

I'd heard that name before.

Yeah,

I can't give you an educator on Far East.

I'm just saying.

On the men's side, no,

but on the woman's side, more.

Ilya was the weightlifter

that was at NorCal.

Keeping it real, FYI, I was catching up.

Ty's best features is running.

He did five K the other day in eighteen.

He can run for days and swims even better.

And I know they're tight.

I mean,

if you're a two or three-time or

two-time teen champ,

he would have been well-rounded.

Yeah,

but he's just like nineteen twenty now,

right?

He's like two years out.

Yeah, I think he's nineteen twenty.

I don't know, I guess Grant will tell us.

So there's that.

We have our picks for the women.

I have no idea on the men.

Let's look at the last two,

which is Torian.

Sure.

Here we go.

Now they did theirs in multiple pages.

So he just turned nineteen.

All right.

Pro individual females.

We have Haley Adams.

Hannah Black.

The other Haley Adams.

Yeah.

Emily Clements.

Emily DeRoy.

Gemma Ellis.

Julia Hannaford.

Hannah Hardy.

Gemma Houck.

Daisy McDonald.

Maddie Sturt, who's already qualified.

Tia Claire Toomey.

Gracie Walton, who's already qualified.

And that's the list of women.

Tia.

Yeah, Tia.

Tia, maybe Daisy.

Maybe Emily DeRoy.

She had some team experience last year,

won.

Could maybe qualify here

individually again.

Uh,

trying to look at the names on my phone.

It's hard because I feel

like is everyone on this

list even eligible?

Like, I don't even know.

I'll be surprised if Hannah

black does very, very well here.

She had a really good competition at TFX.

These events for Torian are

very high skilled.

Um,

are some strength stuff but

there are like strict

handstand push-ups ring

muscle ups bar muscle ups

like this rope climbs like

a lot more gymnastics heavy

I think um georgia priors

here too I didn't mention

her I love her so I'd be

curious to see because I

was very impressed with

hannah at tfx but also

conscious in my evaluation

of her because of the

programming that was there

although I do think that

she's closed down on a lot

of the holes that she had I

think she's definitely

improved her fitness but in

this particular event I

think won't translate maybe

as as much plus she's

traveling but tia um emily

deroy daisy mcdonald from

last year's games could do

well there's a few of them

I think there's going to be

like four or five of them

really in in the mix

What I find fascinating

about this is if Tia does

not accept her bid... She will.

It could be fourth place

before you get... Because

Maddie's third and Gracie

Walton could finish second and third.

I'm saying if.

I'm not saying I believe it.

I'm just saying if.

I don't believe.

I do believe she's going to take the bid.

I'm just saying if she doesn't.

So, yeah.

I...

yeah georgia pryor forgot

about her I'd probably go

georgia pryor and daisy

mcdonald personally and tia

I'm anxious to see what tia

looks like here if she's

just gonna look like her

regular self because like

we didn't see her regular

self in in the open right um right

So I'm just curious what

she'll be like here.

She wants to put on a show

for her home crowd.

Yeah.

No doubt.

We've talked about this a lot, Ken.

Don't you think that if

someone already qualified,

it should be a blanket rule

you can't compete like Syndicate did?

Those people can be disruptors.

We believe that wholeheartedly.

But when CrossFit lets go of

control of all of that stuff,

These events can do whatever they want,

and they want the big names

there to draw in a crowd.

So if you leave it up to Torian,

Torian wants Maddie Sturt there,

and they want Gracie Walton

there because they're going

to bring people into the seats.

I can't blame the event

organizer for that.

And that's all because

CrossFit has not taken over and said,

these are the rules we're

abiding by for all

in-person qualifying events.

It is very frustrating.

On the men's side,

we have the same problem

where Jay Crouch is already qualified.

He's going to compete.

Royce Dunn will be there.

Peter Ellis.

Ben Garrard.

Ricky Garrard already qualified.

William Kearney.

Guy Mejeros is not eligible

and is competing.

Bailey Martin.

And Con Porter.

Brandon Swan.

Brandon Swan.

And that is your list of men.

I think the favorite there

is Bailey Martin based off

the last couple of years.

And then I might see.

I think Peter Ellis.

It's his year.

Yeah, that's a good pick.

And the other two have already qualified.

It just makes it a... He's

always been in the hunt.

Royce Dunn could...

Depending on programming,

Royce Dunn could be in the mix.

Royce has some really good

gymnastics skills.

And he's strong.

Yeah.

He should have went to one

that may have programmed, though.

I think Luke DeJong could do well.

Oh, man.

Sometimes with my glasses,

I only catch things kind of,

and my twelve-year-old

brain sees things it shouldn't see.

So...

All right.

So with there, we have, again,

we have like three people

that could really mess up

the leaderboard who cannot

go to the games from here

or have already qualified for the games.

So, all right.

I do want to kind of address this.

Royce did.

He was at mayhem classic.

I agree with you that he was there,

but that field was so deep

for two people.

So deep.

Now we're getting into this

later end of the season,

and it's all jacked up with

not a lot of people.

I think they're all going to NorCal.

I think the most stacked one

from the whole year is Mayhem and NorCal.

Easily.

And I think this is

something we can address

with a later rundown if we have time.

We don't.

We're already at time.

like the first and last

everyone picked those ones

and some of these middle

ones that were like around

the online affiliate

semifinals were a little

bit less um people oh yeah

all we have left is rebel

renegade games and I'm not

going to waste a lot of

time by trying to preview

that because it's sarah

sigmund's daughter's last

yes one last and only shot

to make the games if she

makes it it she'll she'll

get there if not it's done

it's we're done over her

biggest competition will be

evie hollis I think or that

christine limited takas

christine what that flew

out of it way too smooth

sounds like you had like

phlegm in your throat

I don't know how you say it,

something like that.

Sure.

So that's really the preview

for the Renegade Games.

And there's that.

So the last thing I had on

my list was the

construction of the season

and how can we fix it.

And I saw a thing that Hiller put out.

I really did like agree with

a lot and that is the in

affiliate online semi-final

should be the last

qualifying event of the

year the last chance

qualifier it should be the

last chance qualifier and

whatever spots are left

that haven't already been

doled out with the in-person

qualifying events.

So you have your syndicates, your mayhems,

your Torians, your rebel renegades,

and you hand out however

many tickets everybody was.

When that's all done,

you have one last online in

affiliate semifinal.

And however many spots are left,

that's your last chance to qualify,

whether it's one spot or

eleven spots or eight spots or whatever.

You roll them all up into that last one.

That way,

all of the in-person events can

get the people they need to

get there to draw butts in the seats,

do all the things they need

to do to make it beneficial

for them to put money

forward to run this part of

the season for CrossFit.

And then you have this one

big last chance qualifier

for everybody for how many

spots are left.

That seems so simple.

What are the chances that

CrossFit makes that change next year?

Slim to none.

Yeah.

Do you think there's any

other way to fix it?

Don't outsource the programming.

Yeah, I don't know.

I don't like that.

I was never a huge fan of

the depth of the strength

of field calculations and stuff,

but I don't like the way

this season is going with just like,

here's your two, here's your two.

Yeah,

two's not enough for some of these spots.

The people at Mayhem, like,

That should have been more than two spots.

Yeah.

Completely.

And Brazil should not have been two.

No.

No.

But like everything in between,

I don't know how you figure all that out.

I think it would be easier

to figure out if you didn't

have the online version already.

Yeah.

Like if TFX had Ariel and

Emily and all of the West, Hattie and...

the people I can think of

from there abby all those

people right that becomes a

much stronger event than

what we ended up having

yeah do you do like only

two in like north america

but you can go to either or

same amount of spots but

you can go to either or and

you can compete more than

and you can compete at both

of them I'm okay with three

in north america

But, like, when you give more people,

you give more spots.

Right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Right.

I think there should be, like,

one over in Europe, two in North America,

and that's pretty much it.

Well,

I don't think we thought so many

people would not do the season in Europe.

If everybody does the season,

then Europe probably needs two.

yeah I don't know if they

have like if you grab

cluny's comment if they

have more than three events

in the open you could do

something like that where

like the top three from the

open um get a spot to the

games and it makes the open

matter um you'll have to

have open videos for that yep

happen um or you have to

actually significantly look

at the videos from first

place to thirtieth place

one to four or five of the

events because then you

could do that but if you

don't have video review

stuff for every single one

of the workouts then you

can't do that because when

they did when they took

from the open in twenty

nineteen twenty twenty

Like I gave all five of my

workout videos to them and

like you would assume that

they looked at at least two

to three of them in great detail.

Well,

there would have been a video review

process, which should be the standard.

And we wouldn't even have

this issue right now.

Yeah, Kenneth Lapp asked, if you did that,

Clooney's,

Kale Lehman would go to the games.

Yeah,

you would have to change the video

process for sure.

Yeah.

All right.

So, yeah, I.

Yeah, I just saw that thing with Hiller,

and then the other thing

that struck this into my

head is if you have not

seen Seth Jumpship on

Coffee Pods and Wads,

I have become the biggest

Seth Jumpship fan in the

world because the

level-headedness and the

open-mindedness that he has

in that interview is

everything that I've been

trying to say for a long time,

and he said it better than I did.

What interview is this one?

A recent one?

He was on with Coffee Pods and Wads,

and they were debriefing

the World Fitness Project's

Tour Event One,

and he just answered everything so well.

I loved him on the desk.

I thought he was extremely knowledgeable,

well-spoken,

gave great analysis of the

field and the workout.

He was awesome.

Just a tidbit from that interview.

He was asked if he was willing to do it.

And he was surprised because

he's kind of been out of

the competitive CrossFit

space in a while.

He's just an affiliate owner

now with five affiliates.

But he said he thought about it.

He's like,

it was a really cool chance and

cool opportunity to do.

So he went to do it.

And a week later,

they sent him a contract with payment.

And he didn't know he was getting paid.

He thought he was volunteering to do it.

He did a really good job.

That's awesome.

And he would have done it as

a volunteer and then found

out later that he's

actually getting paid for it.

And I thought that was great.

He earned it.

He did.

He was really good.

But he actually talks about

here he is working for the

WFP on the desk, right?

But he owns five CrossFit affiliates.

And he loves what CrossFit was,

what it stood for, the methodology,

the teachings, all of that stuff.

And he wants that to survive.

But he also knows we're in a

new world where everything

isn't rosy anymore.

And so I thought he was awesome on there.

And he said things in a way

that I've been trying to say.

And he just did it in a different way.

I really enjoyed it.

So if you have not seen it, check it out.

I watched it on one and a half speed.

Got through it pretty quick.

It's a little over an hour.

But they don't talk so fast

in real life that the one

and a half speed affects it too bad.

So there's some people I can

only go to one point two five.

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