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What is going on, Kenneth, Clintus,
Meredith, Craig, Ken, Edging, Fergie,
everybody.
So awesome to be here.
I think that's everything on the welcome.
I had my twenty eighth
wedding anniversary yesterday.
Congratulations.
Congrats.
Never in my wildest dreams.
I think I would get to twenty eight years,
you know, with one person.
It is.
it's just wild um and we um
we went and had a nice
lunch at a place called
liberty tavern here it's a
new like upscale pub type
thing really really nice um
lots of outdoor seating and
it was a beautiful day
yesterday and julie has
been kind of cooped up with
the knee surgery so she
just wanted to be outside
so we did that and then
Today we kind of finished off everything.
We went to the dog park with
Walter and kind of sat
outside and our dog park is
right by the lake.
So you get kind of the water
and the sunshine and all of that stuff.
Um, and it was really, really nice, but,
um,
twenty years married and we dated for
four and a half years
before we got married.
Wow.
So we've been together way longer than, um,
half of my life.
That's awesome.
something to be celebrated
these days for sure.
Um,
I know that a lot of people were drawn
to the grid league match
this weekend because of John young,
but Carolyn,
I have a mutual friend who
also competed in the grid
league this weekend.
And that was Lauren Olson
who is on John's team.
Did you guys catch any of the match?
I did not.
I caught probably half of the matches,
and then I didn't watch the end of it,
and I never got back to re-watching it.
I watched it from the spin cast.
I was wondering where it was.
I know they also had another part,
but... It's on the United
Grid League YouTube page, too.
It's a wild broadcast.
It is very much in the style
of like John Young's
broadcasting as opposed to
like a Sean Woodland type broadcasting.
But I was really impressed
with our friend Lauren.
She looked so strong like that.
The other athletes were not
doing as well with the
strength pieces that she was.
I just was I was I just felt
so much pride and joy for our friend.
And I texted her afterwards to tell her,
like, how awesome she was.
And and she said she's so
glad she said yes,
because she had she had so
much fun doing it.
Yeah.
When she was doing the thrusters,
she was fast.
I like their, uh,
their graphics were good.
Like it was, um,
very clear on like what it
was like your athletes have
to stand and these hash
marks for your reps to count.
If they're not there, you get a penalty.
It happens very fast though.
Like some of the matches are so short.
Like if you go in, I don't know,
go to your kitchen and grab
something to drink,
you come back and like,
there's a match that's done.
You're like, Oh,
They have these things
called like ringer points
that take literally like thirty seconds.
It seems like I'm sure it's
more than that.
It's probably like a minute
or two minutes or something,
but it just goes like so fast.
Did she get the only win for the team?
I don't know if she ever went solo.
Okay.
But she she never like
faulted on anything.
That's awesome.
And from her stories,
it looked like she had a
lot of fun because I think
it's her first time doing grid.
It is.
So it looked like, you know,
whether the team didn't
perform as well as they wanted,
they at least, you know,
made a good weekend.
Well,
and the other thing you have to
realize is that team is like all rookies.
Yeah.
that she's on and John's on.
And they went up against
like this super team of two
teams that folded and formed one team.
And they won the championship last year.
So they were going up
against the best in the league.
I am no grid expert by any means.
I just listened to the commentary.
but they I thought they held
their own against them
there were times they were
leading in events and they
would just get like out
touched at the end or
And the commentators were saying, like,
the Houston team,
which is Lauren and John's team,
just their transitions
weren't as fast as the
other team because they
just haven't done that style before,
right?
So, yeah,
I think they're going to be fine
in this league going forward,
but this was their first
match ever as a team.
Houston is an expansion team, essentially.
I mean,
none of these people really even
get to practice together, right?
They're all, all over.
So yeah,
it's going to be hard to do some
of those transitions if you
just meeting up with people
for the first time.
There's a workout where you
can never put the barbell on the ground.
The women have to front rack
and the men have to back rack.
They carry it to the next station.
There's that too.
There are elements that you
could technically add in
our team division stuff.
Some of the standards are
different than what we have in our sport.
Um,
I'm not even sure what is their
standard or, and whatnot.
So sometimes like as a
CrossFit athlete looking, you're like,
Ooh, but like, again, they have,
they have different rules.
So like by their rules, it counts.
Yeah.
We just,
we just have different styles of
doing it.
That's the hardest part of watching.
Yeah.
Uh, to be honest, it just is,
it's just a different standard.
It's not what I'm used to seeing.
It looks rough at times,
but if it's their standard
and what they count,
so but yeah it was fun for
like we had nothing going
on this weekend um from a
crossfit standpoint so like
it was fun to tune in for a
weekend and see my friends
competing um I know kelsey
keel was participating for
the first time ever this weekend too
didn't get to her match it
was one of the later
because they run them back
to back in the same arena
okay so just and they're
only like an hour to an
hour and fifteen minutes
long each I think an hour
fifteen so it's just like
you do one set up for the
next one the next one the
next one and they run four
matches back to back is
kelsey on the sharks too or
different sharks yeah okay
I think is dana on that one brand
as well I I didn't get to
those matches at all I just
saw kelsey's story yeah she
had she had a really good
time so I'll have to go
back and watch some of them
did I see um that you already got murphin
We did Murph as a gym yesterday.
Yep.
Three heats.
And then we do a barbecue at
the gym after in the afternoon.
So that was a good, really good day.
It was only like fifty,
maybe fifty five degrees here.
Man,
we haven't had a... It's been hot for
Murph the last few years.
Yeah.
This is a colder end of May for my region.
There was something that
said it's the coldest end
of May since like, yeah.
I don't remember a Murph being this cold.
I remember there's been some rainy days,
but...
It was definitely cooler,
which made the run nice.
You weren't dying out there.
Last year, I did the games version,
the five-rounder.
Last year, I did it that way.
This year,
I just wanted to see if I was
fitter than I have.
I feel fitter than I have in the past.
I was like, let's see if I can PR.
I did it straight through.
You did it on
unpartitioned yep straight
through pr'd how long that
take you forty four oh
seven oh six I was happy
with it runs were like
seven forty five some fifty
and then like eight eight
ten eight twelve yeah yeah
I uh I'm gonna do it tomorrow
I have an eight hundred meter loop,
so I'm going to walk half of it,
like little jog, a half walk,
and then I'm going to bike
the other half.
Okay.
And then, and then do it through.
Will you,
will you do like Cindy style or
you'll do it on partition?
Cindy style for sure.
Yeah.
Doing that many pushups in a row.
Like once I fail pushups, they're gone.
So like if I did them any other way,
I would, I'd be done early.
Lucas did the micro rounds,
the thirty three rounds of three, six,
nine, and then one round of one, two,
three at the end.
He's never he has never completed Murph.
uh he's always done like had
to like if you like I think
last year he's done did
tried the twenty rounds and
only got through like
fifteen rounds I was like
just stop go run like he
was already at like eighty
minutes or whatever I'm
like just stop there so he
did the whole darn thing
this year and crushed it
was like I don't know sixty
two minutes I'm so proud of
him when was the last time
you did it scott
um I did it last year but I
I did a scaled version like
a half maybe because I had
I hadn't done it in a few
years I did it last weekend
because that's when we do
it like in canada um yeah I
hadn't done it in maybe two
or three years because most
of the time I competed
semis that weekend yeah
uh-huh um so last year it
had been like five years for me
Yeah.
Or it was like the weekend before.
And I was like, no, I have to like,
you're practicing wads that
I've come out and stuff.
So it's like,
it hasn't worked out the last
few years for me to do it there.
So normally I either do it
like in the summer.
I don't know the time, but yeah.
Did you do it straight through?
No, I did ten rounds.
Okay.
Ten rounds of.
Ten, twenty, thirty.
Ten, twenty, thirty.
Yeah.
I hadn't done that version before.
But I did.
feet elevated ring row.
Okay.
Yup.
Um,
cause I didn't do any hanging this week
was the first week I did any hanging.
I started Friday was the
first day I did any hanging
and over basically three
weeks and like my shoulders
are so sore and I don't
really have too much shoulder problems.
Like,
but like just not kipping and opening
up and I'm like, Oh,
like I've just had felt
crunchy all weekend in the shoulders.
So that leads to this comment.
Meredith says,
is there any update on
Carolyn's fingernail biopsy?
I too have sensitive skin on my hands.
It reacts a lot to a lot of
things I touch.
I'm curious if they gave her a diagnosis.
They emailed me a bunch of
thingies from the biopsy,
but I meet with the doctor June second.
So following Monday.
Yeah.
He's a busy man, but he's like, yeah,
he's a nail specialist.
So hopefully he'll begin to
treat me to try to get rid of this.
But yeah,
it does get pretty sensitive on
certain materials like rope
climbs and barbell.
If I've touched for a while,
like I need to put grips on
or it just like it's burning.
Kenneth says,
I like the ten round version.
I tried the ten-round version, like,
early on in my CrossFit career.
And I just bogged down in the push-ups.
Like, I'm good at push-ups.
Like, I do good push-ups.
But I just hit a point where
then they just bogged down.
I'm doing, like, singles.
And, like, so it's really trying to, like,
find a groove of those that
I can continue through.
And so the Cindy just works better.
Do you do ring rows?
Yes.
I will this year for sure.
Yeah.
I've done it.
Like when I did my version, I was like,
Ooh, the ring was, were tough.
Cause like I put the feet
elevated just cause just to
challenge myself more, but yeah.
Just making it more strict
like that was different
because my pull-ups are really good,
so normally I can just fly through that.
For me,
it's just a push-up and how fast do
I run.
Those push-ups are tough,
but the pull-ups I'm
normally pretty good when I kick.
I've never done un-partitioned,
so one of these days I will.
Lex did it un-partitioned this weekend,
I think, so maybe next year I'll do it.
Ken does ten rounds if he's
without a vest.
He does twenty rounds if he does a vest.
Meredith says,
I set up a tent this weekend
to camp over Memorial Day.
My hands were not happy.
Yeah.
I learned early on in my marriage,
my twenty eight wonderful
years of marriage,
that camping would not be
in my future much.
We tried that once and then twice.
And both times my wife ended
up leaving and going home.
Yeah, like actual tent camping.
Correct.
Yeah.
Not my favorite either.
We have a travel trailer.
I can I can handle that.
I don't even think she could
handle that I like it it's
all the comforts of home
yeah I don't know um it's
this isn't on our rundown
but my daughter called last
night and she's she's
actually doing hard right
now uh-huh so they in that
you have to do one um
outdoor activity as
exercise she did a
three-hour hike yesterday wow
in the in the mountains for
the first time since she's
been out in montana and
just absolutely loved it
that's awesome um so it's
fun to she's she is the
happiest she has been since
high school um this move
has been awesome for her uh
justin collard now if I
like camping in front of
the fire at the ritz
carlton yeah yeah that's
that's our style now too
All right, so now just in the chat,
I guess we're going to dive
into the Alex Kazan situation.
You want to touch on this
comment from Emma?
Emma.
I saw it.
I took note of it.
Okay.
Yeah.
She wants to have Haley, Mario,
and Joshua.
I'd love to have them on.
They're great people.
I'll reach out if they're
willing to come on.
Right.
I do agree with her.
If there's going to be a platform,
they do speak up on that.
I think this would be a
really good place for them to do that.
Yeah.
I'm betting they will not talk about it.
I would bet not either.
In all of my dealings with them,
they're very professional
and I don't think they're
going to talk about it.
Do they help coach Brooke at all?
And this is what we're talking about,
just so you guys know.
Emma's asking if I would
have Haley and Josh Murillo on again.
And the reason is,
I feel like if they were
ever to share what happened
between them and Haley,
this would be the podcast
where they would do it.
Maybe they would, but I don't know.
I don't know if they ever would.
I just don't think that's them.
And I feel like even if
something did happen,
they're moving on from that
situation and are
one year removed from it and
have moved yeah I've moved
on so I'm not even sure
that they would even want
to touch that surface again
and bring that back to
social media yeah I mean
I've talked to haley about
it in private and she won't
even give details right so
I don't think public public
forum gets us any further
so um so yeah all right so
this week we had
admitted gummy gait taken at
the WFP where Alex Kazam
was on Talking Elite
Fitness said in a comment
that she had taken a gummy
to help her sleep and that
it does or could include
THC up to two milligrams or
something of that nature.
She then went to will after
the competition was completed and
and said hey I did this and
will said it's okay we've
taken that out you don't
need to worry about that
that has created um a crazy
stir of events all week um
I have made comments on my
lunch with the clydesdale
but I wanted to get your
two opinion on this if you care to share
I just don't – I mean, yeah,
it seems like it's been
handled through the WFP,
but if it's a banned
substance in CrossFit, it's – I mean,
I feel like she's opened up
a can of worms here.
And they've sort of – It's
only a banned substance in
competition in CrossFit.
Yeah, out of competition, it's allowed.
In competition, it's not allowed.
I see.
And then WFP removed the in competition.
Yeah.
Gotcha.
Yeah.
It's just that part,
which a lot of other
professional sports teams
have been slowly starting
to remove because it's been an issue.
I think in the professional sports, um,
I think it's good that they,
at least as soon as it happened,
like we'll put out a statement.
Now,
I don't know how much of that was
actually communicated to
the athletes in March.
Like, I don't know.
It wasn't March or.
Yeah.
Like, I don't like that part.
It seems like.
That they, they removed it in March.
And apparently a lot of
people have done research.
There was no communication
with the athletes at all
until Alex asked after this competition.
But like, I think that should be, if,
if that did happen,
that they removed it in
March and that's an if,
because I don't believe
that it happened in March,
but I'll say if I think
that it should be communicated.
So all the athletes know
that that's removed and not
after this happens,
because if other athletes
are in a similar situation
or they're used to doing
that on the regular, that's how,
like what they do.
it's a disadvantage to all
the other athletes that
didn't know about that change of rule.
Cause that's not a rule in CrossFit.
Right.
So, yeah, I mean.
So my, my thought is this, and I've,
I've echoed this.
Maybe I can do it more concisely here.
I believe that,
that in my mind in my
dealings with the people
involved will saxon alex
all of them deserve the
benefit of the doubt for me
None of them have lied to me.
None of them have treated me
disrespectfully.
Everything has been on the up and up.
So in my mind,
they deserve the benefit of the doubt.
I believe this is what happened.
I believe that the WFP met
with Drug Free Sport or
WADA or whoever is doing
the testing in March.
And they asked,
they went down through the list.
Are we testing for this, this, this, this?
And Will probably said no to THC.
they were having their
meeting with drug free
sport then from that point
forward he did not update
the paper right and that's
that's a life I live every
day in government a law
changes and it's on the
book says this is the law
that's changed the
documentation that's out
there to the public takes
forever to get updated
One,
because you forget or you can't find
it or it has to go through
communications and legal
and whatever to make sure
it's worded correctly or
any of that kind of stuff.
I believe that's what happened.
And in my mind,
they have the benefit of the doubt.
They have not done anything to me.
And so that is why I am saying that.
Everybody that's saying she
had an unfair advantage,
she was taking it thinking
that it was banned.
Right.
Until after the competition was over.
Cause she got,
cause she got drug tested
there and then was like, Oh,
I took this probably.
Yeah.
Cause she didn't mention it
to will till after.
See,
I think that's an athlete's
responsibility, though.
I mean,
I grew up in a testing sport of
hockey where I've been
tested with Taekwondo and
hockey since I was about
fifteen years old.
So like I'm very aware of
everything I've ever consumed,
anything on the shelves.
I was like always told none
of that can be in your system.
Like you have to know even
if like there's some THC
that like like I've always
known as an athlete that
you can't take that.
And like,
I've stayed away from any of that stuff,
like my whole life.
Um,
but there's like a responsibility as an
athlete to know that, I mean,
it's good that she, um,
went forward and told will, um,
and then they had, you know,
remove that and whatnot.
But I still think that it
was a careless moment from
Alex because she could be,
could have been suspended if,
if there wasn't,
if there was enough in the system,
I don't know what the
actual amount that you need in your,
but I think it was a lack of
judgment on her part during the weekend.
And it's, she's lucky, honestly,
that it could have been a suspension.
Right.
Yeah.
Now do I think that it
should be on the list?
No.
Cause like,
I don't think it's a
performance enhancing substance.
Um, but by the rules, um,
I think she should have been
smarter about that.
Justin says, I was there.
I heard what Will said.
She mentioned it.
He immediately responded, oh,
I took that out.
We don't test for that.
And that's why I believe
that he probably met with
the testers and said, hey,
don't test for that anymore,
but did not update any of the documents.
And while I think that it is
his responsibility to
update those documents,
I live in a world where that
happens all the time.
Yeah.
And so I'm not excusing it.
I'm just saying it is a
common blunder with law
rule and rule changes to
get all of the front facing
documents changed.
I agree with Carolyn.
This is from Justin mistake,
taking it mistake,
bringing it up in a podcast.
Like,
it could have really ruined her whole
season.
And she's one of our top
athletes in the sport, right?
Like,
it's... She's really lucky that WFP
took that out of that weekend.
Because they could have...
She didn't know until she
talked to Will after the competition.
Like, after she had already consumed it.
So, like...
But again,
I don't think that it should be
necessarily banned, but per the rules.
Yeah, definitely a mistake on that part.
And then a lack of
communication on will to
the athletes as well.
But now everything is out.
on in terms of like,
everyone knows that that's
allowed on the WFP side.
It is not allowed still on
the CrossFit side.
So if you're going to a
CrossFit sanctioned event,
you need to be aware of
what goes in your body on, you know,
out of competition and
certainly in competition as
well with the risks of being tested.
Um,
But I do like that she was
forward facing in terms of, you know,
responding to things.
And then once everything
kind of settled and she
knew that she was in the clear,
I think then could make a
joke about it with her video,
which was hilarious.
Yeah, that was funny.
But you don't make that
video until you're kind of
more at ease with the
situation and have a
response from the WFP
saying everything is good.
Because before then,
I think she was also like
backtracking and nervous
and concerned for sure,
as probably Justin was as well.
And I'm sure they've had a
long chat since that podcast.
We don't know if it would
have even come up as a
positive as it was a microdose of THC,
but without question, can't do it.
Yeah.
I...
My only issue with all of
this is like every time
something comes out from the WFP,
it's like everybody's just
bam down their throat.
Bam.
Let's find out what's wrong with this.
Bam, bam, bam.
Right.
And and this is just another
one where like nobody's
given the benefit of the doubt.
I've known Saxon Panjik
since almost for almost ten years.
And I don't know if there's
a more trustworthy guy that
I have met in this space than him.
And this was their first ever event.
Like that's a lot of stuff
to goes into that.
And a lot of things to a lot
of ducks to have in a row.
And it just, it just was tough.
So I just remember like, growing up, like,
like, we had a lot of meetings on, like,
supplement stuff,
like when I was very young, and like,
it was like ingrained in our, like,
teams, like, like you're not,
if you're at a convention center,
you're not, you know,
testing anything that they're sampling.
And like, it's like, we were like drilled,
like with meetings and
meetings on like supplement stuff.
And I feel like I've seen a
lot of careless stuff in
our sport and people just
share each other's
pre-workouts and whatnot,
without any concern of what
other people have in their drinks.
Um,
Like it's maybe I come from
like a different sport that
like we were tested much
more and I've only been
tested out of competition
once in my whole CrossFit career,
which is crazy to me.
Um, yeah, recently.
Yeah.
Like I've gone tested like at,
at a competition after
podium or something like that.
But in terms of like out of
competition once.
I just feel like a lot of
people are extremely
careless in what they take.
They don't look for
supplements that have the
informed sport or NSF.
They take whatever.
They share each other's drinks.
It's just...
There's samples of things
and they don't even go and
look whether that company
has any third-party testing
and stuff like that.
I don't know if there needs
to be more education in our
sport if people come from
different backgrounds.
I don't know.
I mean, to me, if they test positive,
see ya.
But I just think people are
not very smart with that kind of stuff.
I I've actually been with
Saxon at events where he is.
Someone said, Hey, try this protein bar.
And he'll just throw it in the garbage.
Like, even if it's something that it says,
it's like, okay.
He's like,
I don't know what they've done to it.
I don't know what,
if it's been manipulated or
anything like that.
And so.
Yeah.
People just,
you have to be that diligent
as an athlete.
If you want to make sure
that you do not test positive.
Especially like a
professional level when you
know that there's testing.
All right.
An athlete's agent agents
managers keep talking about
wanting CrossFit to be a
professional sport that
goes with the territory from media.
Okay, I don't disagree.
I wonder if CrossFit would
put a message and be like,
because I would have wanted
CrossFit to be like,
while we see that this rule is the WFP,
we still are going to be
testing for this in the
CrossFit space because we believe blah,
blah, blah, blah.
I get that they don't care about the WFP,
but I feel like CrossFit
should also make a
statement in our sport that
make sure to look up, you know,
the rules and regulations
and what is prohibited and not,
and that you're up to date
on new substances that are
added to the list,
including in competition THC.
And I don't want it lost what you said,
Carolyn,
and that is that the WFP put out
a press release about this.
That never happens in CrossFit.
And I thought that was great
that they went forward
right away with like
addressing the big issue
that was that situation.
I have said this over and over again.
The amount of communication
I get from the WFP compared
to what I get from CrossFit
is a one eighty.
Like they send out press
releases all the time to an
email list of media members.
And so I don't have to go
searching on six different
Instagram accounts as to
where it might be released
or a YouTube video.
I get an actual press release from them.
So margaritas at Jamie's,
is that what I'm hearing?
Erin just got me more water.
Yes,
he did put kind of a lot of ice in it.
I had plenty of margaritas yesterday.
I'm struggling a bit.
welcome to the hangover
jamie yeah is that what
happens at a barbecue after
murph yes hey you're tim oh
I have not I have not had
an alcoholic beverage in so
long I don't even know what
they taste like anymore I
just don't like the taste
like I don't like the taste
of beer and I don't like
wine so the only thing I
can drink is like vodka
mixed drink and like I don't crave vodka
So it's like very easy for
me not to drink.
Like I used to have some
drinks like with my hockey team,
like when I would play
different weekends and stuff,
but now I'm like, eh,
I don't really care for it.
It's been a while since I've had a drink.
Before this podcast,
I had a craft beer podcast.
I love the taste of beer.
Although everybody's told me
since I've quit drinking
for like now it's going on
eighteen months or so.
Like I will not like the
taste of beer when I go
back because it is an acquired taste.
And if you've been without
it for a long time, all of a sudden,
like that's what I'm being told.
Yeah.
If I ever try it again,
I won't like the taste again.
Ken Walter says hockey teams
don't have only some drinks.
Yeah.
I mean,
I did go to a good good school in
Wisconsin that
It was good times.
Edging says,
can lead to an allergy where
you wake up in handcuffs.
A friend told me so.
Oh, boy.
Wow.
All right.
So through that, Labatt's or Molson's.
I actually like Canadian
beer is actually really good.
Am I your American beers were awful.
When I know like when I went
to the States and like our
hockey team had like beers
which I would rarely ever
ever have like drink but no,
they're like watered down.
Wow, we have all kinds of beer.
I mean, but yes, you're like Bud Lights.
Yeah, it's like it's like water.
Yeah.
I can't handle the American
domestic beers and that's, that's just,
what's bad because the
other ones are much more
highly caloric than that.
And it's just bad.
Uh,
Ken says that Madison's Halloween is
the best college party ever.
No,
the Mifflin block party is the craziest
one that happened like in the springtime.
It's like this one street where it's,
everyone is just on the
street drinking and people
off their balconies are throwing
alcohol to people it's crazy
um all right we could go
down a long talk of beer
and parties yeah um let's
go on to we had the first
road to the games released
did you guys get a chance
to see that I have not seen
it I did oh my gosh jamie
you were so quick I know
this week was just busy for
me lucas's last week at
school there's I don't know
it was just a busy week
So it featured Colton
Mertens and Austin Hatfield.
I thought if I'm going to review this,
and if I'm reviewing, it's my opinion.
I'm going to put that out there first.
I thought it was better than
what they've been doing,
but left me wanting a little bit more.
So I would put it at the B
plus A minus area.
Okay.
and to be fair, I'm a CrossFit nerd.
So I know a lot about Colton.
I know a lot about Austin going into this.
So I wanted to know more.
Does that make, does that make sense?
Yeah.
And I thought the same.
I mean, I, I, I mean,
I thought it was good.
I mean, I like CrossFit content, um,
like I think hillar has done
you know better videos on
athletes um and their
stories and a little bit
longer too like theirs is
what like twenty-ish
something minutes twenty
minutes yeah it's just over
twenty twenty yeah and I
don't think that they need
to be like two too long
because I think that you
know in that twenty to
thirty minute range um but
yeah like maybe a little
bit more of their lives and
stuff like I mean I guess
we saw a lot of chick-fil-a for
um austin and a little bit
of colton's work on the
farm but not too too much
so what I'm going to
compare everything to this
season is the laura horvat
wfp video I did really like
that one and the hopper
hiller video I thought
those are the two piece
best pieces of content
we've had this year so I
would put it below those for sure
but I would put it above
like the Adler WFP video.
I thought it had a little
more substance than that one.
The best parts were like
Allie and Colton digging
post holes and their
interaction through that.
I wanted more of that.
To me,
that was more about like his
day-to-day life.
I'm done with the work.
I don't need to see them train.
Right.
And there's a lot of like
watching them train and I get it.
It's a fitness thing.
And,
So to me, that's that.
And again,
these are like Julian Eifert's
in here saying Alexis
Raptus was better than Hofford Hopper.
They were two different styles.
I also think it depends on
the personality of the athlete,
like how much they're willing to,
to talk and really express themselves.
Like there's just athletes
that are just more.
Like Colton's a lot more
chirpy type of athlete,
but in terms of as deep
into a conversation,
I don't know that he really
goes super deep into this
private life and, um,
like day to day stuff.
Like, like I think, I think there's,
it just depends on where
the conversations go with people.
Yeah.
Like Hopper is someone
that's just more open,
which is why I think I like
the Laura one because we
haven't seen her be as open.
So seeing an athlete that
you don't see that side, you know,
and go a little bit deeper
into their background as a child,
I think that that is more interesting.
So Ken says Hillers,
Haley and Domitz were good.
They were good.
Hoppers was another level to
me because he dug into that,
that Vermont piece and how
that affected Hopper and
how he almost quit CrossFit altogether.
Like I,
that's what made that one better
storytelling to me.
The Raptus one in the hot
tub like was fun and it was
very different and I really enjoyed it,
but it didn't hit the
storytelling level of the
Hopper and the Horvat one.
Yeah.
The Horvat one where she goes back to her,
her like grade school and all that,
like that stuff was really,
really fun to watch.
And the relationship between her and,
and her brother was really good too.
you hear all these rumors
and you know the stupid
insinuations and and
they're just like a really
good close family yeah well
I mean that that's like
stupid rumors like they're
just yeah like brother
sister and supportive of
each other I think anyone
that goes that way has but
it was nice to see it in that fashion too
that she kind of chased
around him when he was an
athlete and she was coming
up and wanted to be an athlete.
And like,
that was the cool storytelling part.
That's, that's all I'm saying.
And CrossFit used to be really good at it.
And I think we got to,
we fell too much in love
with the workout porn.
Yeah.
But I think both of those
athletes have very similar
type personalities.
Sure.
Like,
like Austin and like,
they're kind of just like
quiet workhorse is like, maybe,
maybe if you would have
paired two different
athletes that have a lot
different backgrounds,
you would have seen a
little bit more contrast in,
in their stuff.
I don't know.
Um, I think they'll get better as,
as it goes along and you
get different personalities.
Huge shout out to Leah Nichols,
who just became a member of our channel.
That's my cousin.
Thank you so much for that, Leah.
And everybody's bringing up
cool memories of Brooke
Entz and Marston having the
fight at regionals,
that that had the drama and
the tea that everybody wanted.
Josh Bridges running up the
street shirtless.
The Smith brothers working
out in the cul-de-sac.
that's when CrossFit was
really good at storytelling.
Those are the memorable ones.
Those are the ones we all
love to tune in to see.
And I think they just have
to get reps in again.
They went away from doing
these stories and now
they've got to get back in
and it's going to take some
reps to get back into that
full swing of things.
Yeah, I agree.
All right.
We know what the first event
of the CrossFit Games is.
Excited.
Same old.
Yeah.
We're the same old.
Run, swim, run, run, row, run,
run or swim kayak.
Like it's the same start.
I wish that like I didn't
always start with a long
endurance events.
I think it's the same people
that get an advantage,
like get confidence to
start the week where it's
like put that sometimes.
And I understand that, you know,
less people have arrived by
the Thursday or Fridays normally.
And it's an event you kind
of want to get out of the way.
But you give the same people
an advantage every single competition.
Same type of leaders,
same endurance athletes.
And like you just get
confidence and you start
rolling and you feel better.
And in our sport,
like confidence is a big thing.
Like if you started with a
different type of workout,
like a more CrossFit workout,
like I bet you like
sometimes the whole weekend changes.
You get a leader's jersey.
You get something.
You get a top five, top ten.
All of a sudden, your first event,
you're like, heck yeah, let's go.
Now you're all pumped.
You start the weekend at the
thirtieth place, twenty-fifth place,
and it's a hole to dig out of.
You're in your own head after that.
I would just like for it to
start differently than just
a long endurance every single time.
I think it's needed.
I'm not saying it's not needed.
It is needed.
I think there's different
ways that they could do it,
like multiple rounds.
four time or different than
just like a long like that
I think would be better to
watch because this one has
been done um but I would
just like to see it start
differently than the same
people that get leaders
jersey I mean on the
woman's side we only really
see one person on put the
leader's jersey but yeah um
imagine velner not starting
in a hole it makes a big
difference here um
It could be half the
distance and still the same
people would win.
Best runners are going to dominate.
Yeah, I mean, it's a running workout.
Like, you're not, I mean,
you're not making up that
much time on the row unless, like,
you've cramped or something.
Then you will on the run.
You mean Yonikoski?
Well, CrossFit,
Yonikoski is not qualified yet.
He's been one place out, like,
in six different spots.
But maybe he'll get in.
If Tia goes, I think she does.
I do too,
but she has not said anywhere
that she's retiring.
She's going, um, my only,
my biggest problem with
this event is the
announcement that it's the
community event.
This is an hour long hour plus event.
and this is what you want
the community to come jump
into and participate with, that's a lot.
I also don't think it's a
good look because it's a
specialist workout.
You could have literally
some high rocks people come
here and smoke the scores
of the CrossFit Games athletes.
A hundred percent will smoke
some of the elite fifteens and stuff.
If you grab a more
CrossFit-y workout for the
community to do,
I think it would entice more people to
in the community and then
can actually compare to the elites.
Julian Eifert says, hour for who, Scott?
Well, not me, because I mean,
I'm talking a good ninety
minute plus in my heyday.
But like Jamie could
probably do this in an hour or less.
And like she jumped in on
the five K when it was a
community event a couple of years ago.
again now we've had two
community events it's only
been done twice and it's
been a five k and a six
mile run with a three
thousand meter row where's
the fun stuff to get people
like into crossfit right
this is nothing that's
going to like entice
somebody to go to a
crossfit gym I can do this in my backyard
It's their opening High Rocks event,
basically.
Right, that's what it feels like.
Is Mirror Jam is qualified?
Yeah.
I'm very curious how she does at this.
Was she an Elite Fifteen individual?
I don't know.
I mean, I really only know, like, the...
the jacobson girl or
whatever lauren makes um I
can't think like I can't
think of anyone out of the
top five really in my mind
so I I it isn't ringing a
bell to me because I think
her run I don't know if her
run is her strongest point
of the high rocks right
Ken Walter says like bench
press and deadlifts.
Well, you say that,
but like deadlifts is an
easy move to teach.
You could put deadlifts with
a couple other movements,
maybe some sandbag cleans,
something like that.
Something easy.
That's not like a bunch of
barbells out on the floor
and run a couple of heats of that.
Get people involved.
Stop with the, the five K runs.
I mean, this is,
this does not excite me as
a community member to take part in.
I don't know.
And like,
as you're trying to sell tickets
right now too, right?
Like just a more,
are they trying fire sale?
Is the sale still on?
I think it's ended.
Yes.
It ended.
Yeah.
They're still only percent
off from all the athletes.
And they get a kickback, which is nice.
They do.
They get fifty bucks every
time someone buys tickets.
That's pretty good.
Do we think that the tickets
are just going for too much?
I think they were very expensive,
like they're so expensive now,
and I get like when the demand was there,
but.
I don't know,
I feel like I also think
putting it on either coast.
takes away half of your
population to come to the games.
You only have diehard people
flying from California or from overseas.
If you have it in Wisconsin,
it's in the middle of the country.
People will then come
halfway for some reason.
It just doesn't seem like as
much of a trip.
Yeah.
So I don't,
I think it's a little bit of everything.
Plus this is the biggest
arena they've ever had by a lot.
Like it's Madison was only
like four or five thousand.
This is a twelve thousand seat arena.
No,
Madison was more than four to five at
that.
Oh, come on.
At that area.
In the Coliseum.
Come on.
Yeah, I think it was five.
I thought it was more than five.
No way.
Really?
That whole one side didn't have any seats.
It was all blocked off where
you went out for the runs.
Just the one year.
Well, they,
or they put like a VIP area or.
Yeah.
I like, I mean,
I think Madison was so
great because you could get the,
it was like under two
hundred bucks for the festival ticket.
Right.
And still get to see it.
I mean, you got it just.
And back then the masters,
you could walk around and
go through the age group
and their little like
facility or if they were on North Park.
Yeah.
All the other ones were in the Coliseum.
Like there was stuff to do there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hard to fly into.
You have to go to Milwaukee or Chicago.
Dane Airport is pretty small.
Dane County Airport.
Hotels maybe were not as many.
You have to go about twenty
minutes away for some of them.
But the venue is great.
The city is great.
You all right there, Scott?
Yeah, Scott, you done?
It is Cottonwood season.
It's been so bad these last couple days.
I hated that arena in Madison.
I thought the seats were so uncomfortable.
I thought...
I liked it as an overall venue.
I liked it for the outdoor park.
I liked it because
everything was kind of
consolidated together,
but enough spread out where
you could get to everything.
The arena itself meant nothing to me.
When we were at Fort Worth last year,
the seats were super comfortable.
It was a beautiful arena.
It was brand new.
But of course,
it's going to have bad
memories and all of that stuff.
So anyway, I mean, in Madison, like that,
that area is isn't even
used during the year, like at all.
It's a parking lot.
Like nobody goes there.
And there's like some random concerts now.
Like it used to be one of
the hockey rinks like long,
long time ago before the Kohl Center.
And like it's these random
little concerts that are there.
So like for what they turn
that space when the games would go there,
like it.
Cause I, I mean, I live there,
so it's really,
it was really cool to see
how it transformed.
And then once they were gone,
like it was empty.
Um,
fluffy fit says the lack of
international travel to the
U S also has an impact and it, and it,
I'm sure it does.
There's ten less individuals,
ten less teams,
fans of these athletes would be missing.
Do you think we're missing
the masters and the teens
and stuff like for like
people that are bringing
their families and stuff like that?
See,
I knew it was more than five thousand.
There's no way they put ten
thousand people in there.
Yeah,
I'm pretty sure it was like ten to
eleven thousand.
I mean, it may have that capacity.
I just I don't know.
Didn't feel like that to me.
Like,
Texas just seems so big last year
compared to it.
And what's Albany?
Fifteen?
I just heard Dave say in
that when they did the open
announcement with Hopper
and Pepper and Tyson Bajent and Sprague,
that it was the biggest
arena they'd had so far.
fluffy fit said madison
looked empty the last year
it was not empty it was
only empty in non final
heats of individuals yeah
to get spots definitely
from a north park was
always packed and then yeah
the coliseum was pretty
packed once it was the final heat team's
More empty.
Individuals would end,
and it would empty out,
and then the teams would
come on the floor to nobody in the crowd,
except for Jamie.
True.
So, yeah.
And I'm really not disputing you, Jenny,
on this.
I think your numbers are probably correct.
It just didn't have that feel to me.
That's all.
Ooh, Albany Olds, seventeen-five.
Wow.
Okay.
They should have downsized.
I agree.
That makes sense why it's
hard to sell for that much.
Yeah.
Because if it was the same
size and we're not selling
out significantly more.
Five times bigger.
Yeah.
No wonder you're not selling up.
Now all the prime locations are sold.
If you look at the finish line,
they're all sold.
It's really just around the arena.
So, all right, let's do some, um,
CrossFit factor fiction
every morning before I get
into my CrossFit stuff,
I watch get up on ESPN and
they play a game called factor fiction.
And they may,
I give you a statement and
you tell me if it's a fact
or if it's fiction and why.
Are we ready to play?
Yep.
Yep.
Factor fiction.
CrossFit doesn't care about
the team's division.
I'm going to, I'm going to say fact,
but I would almost say
fiction just out of the
fact that they're still there.
Yeah.
With the individuals,
like everyone else has
gotten cut and moved and, and yeah,
like the teams are still
there with the individuals and,
They get the venue.
They get the stuff.
But yeah,
they're me and they're... Fiction
from my experience on the demo team,
I feel like we tested more
of the team workouts than
we did the individuals.
But that makes sense because
everything would have been
more tested maybe prior
with the individuals.
And then more of the bigger
apparatus stuff on the turf
needed to be testing there.
I still think they cared
about the teams because they were
tweaking a lot of stuff.
Did Dave care about the teams?
No,
because like we were like middle of the
wad and he just left.
We were not fast enough on
one of the wads and he just like,
he left.
Jenny actually made a point
in her update the other day where at TFX,
the teams were actually
more popular than the
individual athletes.
And I think it goes back to
that regional approach to
teams where you're bringing
not just the family members of the team,
but the gym members of the
team because they're coming
to support the whole thing.
And I think that's a part of
the equation that we've
lost in all of this shuffle is
is at the qualifying events,
teams are super important,
and we've eliminated them
because they're only online
to get to the games.
And so we've lost that draw along the way,
and I think that is
something that is missing
from the equation.
Totally agree.
Which makes you feel like
CrossFit has just pushed
them to the back.
You feel like they don't care about them.
I mean, the online semifinals?
Shit show.
Yeah.
Yes.
Complete shit show.
Like, no care there.
They even look at a single video.
Correct.
But then they didn't really
look at many for the individuals either,
because it was just the
ones that had a lot of downvotes.
Any other one, they didn't look at.
So...
And so I think that in a
cost-cutting thought process,
you forget what this entity
over here brought to your package.
Yeah.
Yeah, you need people.
Teams bring a bunch of
people to any competition.
and removing that,
removing even the masters,
like it was good for them to,
it's good for them to have
their own competition.
Don't get me wrong,
but they do bring a lot of
people and a lot of spending.
Like,
could they fill seventeen five
hundred just individuals?
No, like you need the team.
So I feel like they're still
using the teams for that.
But we know who the twenty teams are.
And apparently they're not
buying enough tickets
because they're forty percent off.
And I think Ken said up here
and I don't know if.
If you're just saying here for it's true,
but he said, like,
if you bought tickets before the sale,
they're giving you two free
tickets for friends.
If it's a joke, it's funny.
If it's real, it's sad.
Well,
you feel kind of got if something
comes out like this and you
are the one that bought early.
So I can see them.
I'm sure people were
complaining and wanted something.
All right.
Fact or fiction.
CrossFit has become
completely hands-off with
the sports season up until the games.
Fact.
Yeah.
You saw that with the online
video review and yeah,
they're outsourcing everything,
outsourcing the programming,
outsourcing the events.
No looking over any of the events,
no looking over videos.
No, it's just once the athletes are there,
they'll program the open
and they'll program their stuff.
But right now,
like most of the season to get there,
there's.
They've outsourced the video
review to the public.
They didn't even do the
video review for the teams.
They have outsourced all the
in-person qualifying events.
They're letting them make their own rules.
Which I think is dumb.
Yeah.
Final one.
Fact or fiction.
Mayhem athlete programs
every CrossFit event.
Fact.
And if they're not programming,
they have athletes testing
them so they know the workouts.
They know the workouts to
every single event.
It's such bullshit.
Well, they didn't program Torian, correct?
I'm sure they had someone test it.
Torian is greatly programmed.
I really like their programming.
I do really like their programming.
It's great.
That one's my favorite
programming out of any of
the comps so far.
I love that they're not
doing heavy as well.
Me too.
Thank God.
I'm jealous of their programming.
How do you really feel, Carolyn?
I really like the Torian one.
Yeah.
Ken gets it.
Question three hit the score spot.
Yeah.
Well, I just think that it's such a non,
like it's so disadvantaged
for other athletes.
Like it's,
I don't think a training camp
should be programming for
sending people to the games.
I don't care if,
they don't tell their athletes or whatnot.
It's the fact that you're
still training these athletes.
It doesn't look good.
It doesn't look good.
Just like when you have a
well sister on the demo
team and the other one's competing,
it doesn't look good.
You can't have people
testing your workouts.
Don't tell people, you know,
James Sprague on the demo team,
other people, tutor, whatever,
like you can't have buddies
of people testing workouts.
It's hard to find.
I get that.
But the appearance of them
programming everything,
it's not a good look.
Yeah.
Benita says appearance of
conflict of interest.
Absolutely.
And I'm not saying that they're telling,
I'm just saying it doesn't look good.
In a sport of unknown,
you can't have that.
In a sport of unknown,
you can't have that.
If they're going to do it,
they need to have like a
clear delineation between
the person that programs
and the rest of the entity.
And I don't know how you can
do that when you own the company.
Right.
And I just think you need to
find someone that's going to program.
season like take care of the
semifinals and that's the
responsibility for the year
and if you're not able to
do it pick someone else but
they can't be related to a
training camp and stuff
like that it's not an
appearance it is a conflict
of interest that major yeah
it's like it's so dumb
And like, yeah,
we'll still show up and
compete and everyone does
their best and their
athletes may not qualify,
but it's still doesn't look good to me.
It's not professional at all.
All right.
We're going to keep that
game off to come up with
new categories every week.
But I like, I like that game.
Yeah.
I have to come up with a
couple that aren't facts though.
I need some things that are fiction.
I gave you two fictions there.
Uh, Clinton, he says, WFP nailed this.
We'll did all the
programming and will and
Saxon did all the testing.
Yeah.
Keep it small.
Nobody knows.
That's the thing is you need
to have someone that's
either like knows the time domains,
knows the stimulus,
doesn't need to have a bunch of testers.
Right.
And if you're not that person,
then you need to do your
homework and study a lot more CrossFit.
Yeah.
Because you should be able
to program a workout and
have a pretty good idea of –
where the top scores are and
where the bottleneck is for
your average field of athletes.
Like you need to study more
competitions and results of
different types of workouts
so that you're able to
program and not need all of
these people to test your
workouts and all of these
people come to coming together.
Like a few people,
I think to program like two,
maybe three at most.
Once you start going more to that,
like around that, it's just,
it's a bunch of leaks.
Yeah.
Fact or fiction,
it's okay that Will didn't
have a female test the events.
I don't know.
I mean, Carolyn's right.
You should be able to look
at time domains.
You should be able to know
what thirty wild balls takes.
You should be able to.
But it would be nice if you had a woman.
I don't think you need to,
but I think you need to
study the sport and know
that the same amount of
legless rope climbs,
the females are not there.
It's a different workout for females.
If you want to get the same
workout stimulus of what
your brain is thinking of
putting on paper,
then you need to study more
the female side.
If you've only focused on
the male side because
that's where you competed your whole life,
I think that you have to take
you know,
take a look at a lot of different
samples of different events.
What is the number of
legless rope climbs that
females are able to do in
this time domain paired with, you know,
grip intensive stuff?
What is it?
What is it like paired with a cardio?
What is it like paired with
a shoulder fatigue?
Because all of those like
impact how good some,
some of the females are in
certain movements where we
lag behind like the males.
Yeah.
So I don't think you need to,
But I think that you should
be studying constantly.
Fluffy Fitz is maybe didn't
didn't say who he has said
on Boys Interrupted that it
was just him and Saxon.
And Jackson did somebody
didn't get really any good
data from that.
Garrett says fiction.
Fiction, not cool, bro.
Right.
All right, cool.
Yeah, I like that.
We'll have to bring that
back as we move forward.
All right,
previewing the four events
coming up this weekend.
Four, count them,
four events this weekend.
We have Syndicate Crown,
we have Fari Throwdown,
we have the Taurean Pro,
and we have Rebel Renegade Games.
Let's start with the
Syndicate Crown event.
And here is the men's lineup
for the syndicate crown.
No kale.
No cow.
Yeah, Lehman.
CrossFit Instagram should be
posting a lot more about
these four events coming up
and really pumping people
towards where they can
watch it this weekend and whatnot.
I just went quickly on the
CrossFit Games website.
If the events have tagged them,
they'll accept some of the tagging,
but they should be all week,
especially with four events going on,
really...
driving people to those
competitions whether it's
online or to the actual
venues on where people can
purchase tickets I think
there's there can be a
better job there so I have
seen versions of this with
kale layman crossed off
yeah I have to I don't know
if it's official because I
did not I only saw it on
like killer site and some
other people I have not
seen anything from
syndicate I'm saying that
that would be interesting
Here we have, again,
it's a little bit of a depleted field.
I'll hit you with the highlights.
Ben Smith is going to be there.
George Sterner, Jack Rosema, Ty Jenkins,
Spencer Pancheck, Seth Stovall,
Luke Parker.
Who are your picks to get
the two spots from that group of people?
I like Jack Rose.
I think Ty will be
competitive fighting for
one of those spots.
George Sterner will be in the mix.
Spencer,
he's had some good comps and then
he's had some comps where he's
struggled a little bit.
He wasn't at WFP, was he?
No.
Mayhem.
I'm trying to think who will
do good at these events.
The Ron Yoke and the Hundreds.
I think this is Seth Stovall's time.
I think Seth is going to
have an excellent shot out of this.
He was just out last year, right?
He was right outside.
So my pick is Seth,
and I'm going to go with Jack Rosema.
I don't think he's a good enough runner.
I think that one's going to hurt him,
the run yoke,
and I actually don't think
he's going to do excellent
at the hundreds either.
But I could be wrong.
Well, pick your names then, ma'am.
I don't – I mean – I do
think Seth is – He'll be in
the mix for sure, yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know enough about Ty –
Luke would be my other thought process,
just being a mayhem athlete.
And it's not,
it's not very top heavy though.
It's wide open.
Like there's no shoe in here.
No, I don't take us as Seth and Luke.
Yeah.
Um, Kenneth delapses.
I'm going with Jenkins and Parker.
I don't know.
I don't know enough about Ty.
It's like, I don't know if he's an,
a good runner.
I don't know if he's a good
endurance athlete.
Like, will he survive that hundreds?
I know he's really strong I
don't know about his
running ability right like
I feel like he could be
kind of like jack like
they're like I think jack's
gonna I mean jackson
crushed the heavy isabel
but I think there's gonna
be some others that sort of
hurt him all right let's go
the women's side uh we have
the well sisters we have
caroline stanley um elizabeth wisharts
erica folo haley rolfe uh
kira miller christine best
kyra milligan lexi neely
lydia fish shelby neal
Any picks on this one?
I like Caroline Stanley.
I think she's well-rounded.
She's a good runner.
She's strong, good gymnast.
I think no major holes in her games.
I expect her to take a spot
from this field.
I think Brooke can have another spot here.
I think those two are the
two front runners for me in this field.
And then in the mix...
Um, I'll root for my friend,
Elizabeth Wishart.
Um,
follow should do well on some of these.
Shelby hasn't had a great
start to the year.
I don't know if she has an injury,
if she'd just been busy
with school or work or
something like that.
She didn't look particularly
herself at mayhem because
normally I'm a huge, uh, Shelby Neal fan.
Um,
I'm gonna say Rachel closing.
Okay, eight day team member.
She's incredible.
Her endurance is incredible.
She's in it.
I think she'll do really
well in the hundreds and the run yoke.
I am going to take Caroline
Stanley is the shoe in.
And then my second place I'm
taking Lexi Neely.
Like Kyra will be really
good at a lot of these.
It's just the one running
that she has to survive.
And unfortunately,
I just don't know that the
other ones will have as low
of a finish that she may
have on that one.
But Kyra's got some good
skills on some of these
workouts that are coming out.
Lexi made the games last year,
and I think she's only gotten better.
And I really think she has a chance.
So that's my pick.
all right so that is the
syndicate crown so let's go
to the next one which is I
think the far east which
they did not right they're
the ones that didn't
they're the ones on
competition I gotta change
this then they're on yeah here we go
Far East Throwdown.
Well, my big question going into this is,
and my question on the last one was,
do the Wells sisters qualify?
Because it's their last opportunity,
pretty much.
This would be the first year
that one of them hasn't qualified,
if they both, right?
I think that Sydney has
signed up for NorCal right now.
I mean, at this point,
anyone that doesn't qualify
through here is going to
get an invite at NorCal
because they're just inviting anyone.
last minute.
Um,
so who knows how many of these athletes
will join the last game?
I think they both have a good shot.
I think, yeah, I think they've,
I think Brooke has a better shot.
She's less holes than Sydney,
but they finished
relatively close to each other.
I think in the WFP, right, right,
right next to each other, maybe.
So Sydney is catching up on,
on a lot of her, um, fitness.
All right,
so I don't know a lot of these names.
I'm going to give you what I know.
I know Amy Hosking is,
we've had her on the show a
couple times for semifinal series.
She's from Canada.
Dwan Young made it to the games last year,
correct?
Yeah.
Janine.
Leah Storen will do well here.
Leah Storen.
Is this the one that doesn't have a run?
I don't think this one has a run.
Or one of the events will have a run.
So here, Kaya.
She's a young choice here,
but she's already qualified.
I think it's between Kaya and Storen.
Broke it.
There we go.
No running, but a one rep max jerk,
according to Dew.
So here we only get one
invite to the games.
We double check that before the show.
I think it's Zaheer Kaya.
Her and Shung Young Choi
have dominated for a long time.
You've invited other people now.
I think Storen is right there with Kaya.
They're both,
they're both Kriger athletes too,
I believe.
Krieger, Krieger, how do you say it?
Krieger.
Krieger.
Okay.
And then on the men's side,
it's a tough time.
When you have fields like
this that don't have the depth,
it becomes one, two, one, two, one.
You have one bad event and you're screwed.
We saw that happen with Guy
a few years ago in Brazil.
Right?
So if you have a hole,
when the field isn't deep like this,
like you better hope that
that one person that you're
just always going back and
forth with has some sort of
execution error or something like that.
Cause these types of comps
are hard because like no
one's getting in between.
You're always in the mix.
You're one error away from losing it.
Those are stressful type of competitions.
I got to be honest with you.
I am not deep on my Far East men.
No one from outside of?
I don't really see anybody from outside.
Ricardo Garcia, I'm assuming,
is from outside, but I don't
What about Haynes?
He is here.
But what?
He's like thirty nine now.
Yeah.
Elia Mark.
Is that the one that could
be a weightlifter?
Was that the one that
couldn't travel last year
or one of those?
Maybe that guy.
I don't know why.
Maybe the name just sounds familiar.
Mark Mucker off.
Yeah.
Didn't last year they have
like five people test positive.
That's why I recognize that name.
And maybe one of the
athletes had the same first
name and maybe that's what
I'm getting confused with.
So that depleted the, the,
the lot a lot as well,
but there's aunt Haynes, um,
Andre Fedotov.
I'd heard that name before.
Yeah,
I can't give you an educator on Far East.
I'm just saying.
On the men's side, no,
but on the woman's side, more.
Ilya was the weightlifter
that was at NorCal.
Keeping it real, FYI, I was catching up.
Ty's best features is running.
He did five K the other day in eighteen.
He can run for days and swims even better.
And I know they're tight.
I mean,
if you're a two or three-time or
two-time teen champ,
he would have been well-rounded.
Yeah,
but he's just like nineteen twenty now,
right?
He's like two years out.
Yeah, I think he's nineteen twenty.
I don't know, I guess Grant will tell us.
So there's that.
We have our picks for the women.
I have no idea on the men.
Let's look at the last two,
which is Torian.
Sure.
Here we go.
Now they did theirs in multiple pages.
So he just turned nineteen.
All right.
Pro individual females.
We have Haley Adams.
Hannah Black.
The other Haley Adams.
Yeah.
Emily Clements.
Emily DeRoy.
Gemma Ellis.
Julia Hannaford.
Hannah Hardy.
Gemma Houck.
Daisy McDonald.
Maddie Sturt, who's already qualified.
Tia Claire Toomey.
Gracie Walton, who's already qualified.
And that's the list of women.
Tia.
Yeah, Tia.
Tia, maybe Daisy.
Maybe Emily DeRoy.
She had some team experience last year,
won.
Could maybe qualify here
individually again.
Uh,
trying to look at the names on my phone.
It's hard because I feel
like is everyone on this
list even eligible?
Like, I don't even know.
I'll be surprised if Hannah
black does very, very well here.
She had a really good competition at TFX.
These events for Torian are
very high skilled.
Um,
are some strength stuff but
there are like strict
handstand push-ups ring
muscle ups bar muscle ups
like this rope climbs like
a lot more gymnastics heavy
I think um georgia priors
here too I didn't mention
her I love her so I'd be
curious to see because I
was very impressed with
hannah at tfx but also
conscious in my evaluation
of her because of the
programming that was there
although I do think that
she's closed down on a lot
of the holes that she had I
think she's definitely
improved her fitness but in
this particular event I
think won't translate maybe
as as much plus she's
traveling but tia um emily
deroy daisy mcdonald from
last year's games could do
well there's a few of them
I think there's going to be
like four or five of them
really in in the mix
What I find fascinating
about this is if Tia does
not accept her bid... She will.
It could be fourth place
before you get... Because
Maddie's third and Gracie
Walton could finish second and third.
I'm saying if.
I'm not saying I believe it.
I'm just saying if.
I don't believe.
I do believe she's going to take the bid.
I'm just saying if she doesn't.
So, yeah.
I...
yeah georgia pryor forgot
about her I'd probably go
georgia pryor and daisy
mcdonald personally and tia
I'm anxious to see what tia
looks like here if she's
just gonna look like her
regular self because like
we didn't see her regular
self in in the open right um right
So I'm just curious what
she'll be like here.
She wants to put on a show
for her home crowd.
Yeah.
No doubt.
We've talked about this a lot, Ken.
Don't you think that if
someone already qualified,
it should be a blanket rule
you can't compete like Syndicate did?
Those people can be disruptors.
We believe that wholeheartedly.
But when CrossFit lets go of
control of all of that stuff,
These events can do whatever they want,
and they want the big names
there to draw in a crowd.
So if you leave it up to Torian,
Torian wants Maddie Sturt there,
and they want Gracie Walton
there because they're going
to bring people into the seats.
I can't blame the event
organizer for that.
And that's all because
CrossFit has not taken over and said,
these are the rules we're
abiding by for all
in-person qualifying events.
It is very frustrating.
On the men's side,
we have the same problem
where Jay Crouch is already qualified.
He's going to compete.
Royce Dunn will be there.
Peter Ellis.
Ben Garrard.
Ricky Garrard already qualified.
William Kearney.
Guy Mejeros is not eligible
and is competing.
Bailey Martin.
And Con Porter.
Brandon Swan.
Brandon Swan.
And that is your list of men.
I think the favorite there
is Bailey Martin based off
the last couple of years.
And then I might see.
I think Peter Ellis.
It's his year.
Yeah, that's a good pick.
And the other two have already qualified.
It just makes it a... He's
always been in the hunt.
Royce Dunn could...
Depending on programming,
Royce Dunn could be in the mix.
Royce has some really good
gymnastics skills.
And he's strong.
Yeah.
He should have went to one
that may have programmed, though.
I think Luke DeJong could do well.
Oh, man.
Sometimes with my glasses,
I only catch things kind of,
and my twelve-year-old
brain sees things it shouldn't see.
So...
All right.
So with there, we have, again,
we have like three people
that could really mess up
the leaderboard who cannot
go to the games from here
or have already qualified for the games.
So, all right.
I do want to kind of address this.
Royce did.
He was at mayhem classic.
I agree with you that he was there,
but that field was so deep
for two people.
So deep.
Now we're getting into this
later end of the season,
and it's all jacked up with
not a lot of people.
I think they're all going to NorCal.
I think the most stacked one
from the whole year is Mayhem and NorCal.
Easily.
And I think this is
something we can address
with a later rundown if we have time.
We don't.
We're already at time.
like the first and last
everyone picked those ones
and some of these middle
ones that were like around
the online affiliate
semifinals were a little
bit less um people oh yeah
all we have left is rebel
renegade games and I'm not
going to waste a lot of
time by trying to preview
that because it's sarah
sigmund's daughter's last
yes one last and only shot
to make the games if she
makes it it she'll she'll
get there if not it's done
it's we're done over her
biggest competition will be
evie hollis I think or that
christine limited takas
christine what that flew
out of it way too smooth
sounds like you had like
phlegm in your throat
I don't know how you say it,
something like that.
Sure.
So that's really the preview
for the Renegade Games.
And there's that.
So the last thing I had on
my list was the
construction of the season
and how can we fix it.
And I saw a thing that Hiller put out.
I really did like agree with
a lot and that is the in
affiliate online semi-final
should be the last
qualifying event of the
year the last chance
qualifier it should be the
last chance qualifier and
whatever spots are left
that haven't already been
doled out with the in-person
qualifying events.
So you have your syndicates, your mayhems,
your Torians, your rebel renegades,
and you hand out however
many tickets everybody was.
When that's all done,
you have one last online in
affiliate semifinal.
And however many spots are left,
that's your last chance to qualify,
whether it's one spot or
eleven spots or eight spots or whatever.
You roll them all up into that last one.
That way,
all of the in-person events can
get the people they need to
get there to draw butts in the seats,
do all the things they need
to do to make it beneficial
for them to put money
forward to run this part of
the season for CrossFit.
And then you have this one
big last chance qualifier
for everybody for how many
spots are left.
That seems so simple.
What are the chances that
CrossFit makes that change next year?
Slim to none.
Yeah.
Do you think there's any
other way to fix it?
Don't outsource the programming.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't like that.
I was never a huge fan of
the depth of the strength
of field calculations and stuff,
but I don't like the way
this season is going with just like,
here's your two, here's your two.
Yeah,
two's not enough for some of these spots.
The people at Mayhem, like,
That should have been more than two spots.
Yeah.
Completely.
And Brazil should not have been two.
No.
No.
But like everything in between,
I don't know how you figure all that out.
I think it would be easier
to figure out if you didn't
have the online version already.
Yeah.
Like if TFX had Ariel and
Emily and all of the West, Hattie and...
the people I can think of
from there abby all those
people right that becomes a
much stronger event than
what we ended up having
yeah do you do like only
two in like north america
but you can go to either or
same amount of spots but
you can go to either or and
you can compete more than
and you can compete at both
of them I'm okay with three
in north america
But, like, when you give more people,
you give more spots.
Right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right.
I think there should be, like,
one over in Europe, two in North America,
and that's pretty much it.
Well,
I don't think we thought so many
people would not do the season in Europe.
If everybody does the season,
then Europe probably needs two.
yeah I don't know if they
have like if you grab
cluny's comment if they
have more than three events
in the open you could do
something like that where
like the top three from the
open um get a spot to the
games and it makes the open
matter um you'll have to
have open videos for that yep
happen um or you have to
actually significantly look
at the videos from first
place to thirtieth place
one to four or five of the
events because then you
could do that but if you
don't have video review
stuff for every single one
of the workouts then you
can't do that because when
they did when they took
from the open in twenty
nineteen twenty twenty
Like I gave all five of my
workout videos to them and
like you would assume that
they looked at at least two
to three of them in great detail.
Well,
there would have been a video review
process, which should be the standard.
And we wouldn't even have
this issue right now.
Yeah, Kenneth Lapp asked, if you did that,
Clooney's,
Kale Lehman would go to the games.
Yeah,
you would have to change the video
process for sure.
Yeah.
All right.
So, yeah, I.
Yeah, I just saw that thing with Hiller,
and then the other thing
that struck this into my
head is if you have not
seen Seth Jumpship on
Coffee Pods and Wads,
I have become the biggest
Seth Jumpship fan in the
world because the
level-headedness and the
open-mindedness that he has
in that interview is
everything that I've been
trying to say for a long time,
and he said it better than I did.
What interview is this one?
A recent one?
He was on with Coffee Pods and Wads,
and they were debriefing
the World Fitness Project's
Tour Event One,
and he just answered everything so well.
I loved him on the desk.
I thought he was extremely knowledgeable,
well-spoken,
gave great analysis of the
field and the workout.
He was awesome.
Just a tidbit from that interview.
He was asked if he was willing to do it.
And he was surprised because
he's kind of been out of
the competitive CrossFit
space in a while.
He's just an affiliate owner
now with five affiliates.
But he said he thought about it.
He's like,
it was a really cool chance and
cool opportunity to do.
So he went to do it.
And a week later,
they sent him a contract with payment.
And he didn't know he was getting paid.
He thought he was volunteering to do it.
He did a really good job.
That's awesome.
And he would have done it as
a volunteer and then found
out later that he's
actually getting paid for it.
And I thought that was great.
He earned it.
He did.
He was really good.
But he actually talks about
here he is working for the
WFP on the desk, right?
But he owns five CrossFit affiliates.
And he loves what CrossFit was,
what it stood for, the methodology,
the teachings, all of that stuff.
And he wants that to survive.
But he also knows we're in a
new world where everything
isn't rosy anymore.
And so I thought he was awesome on there.
And he said things in a way
that I've been trying to say.
And he just did it in a different way.
I really enjoyed it.
So if you have not seen it, check it out.
I watched it on one and a half speed.
Got through it pretty quick.
It's a little over an hour.
But they don't talk so fast
in real life that the one
and a half speed affects it too bad.
So there's some people I can
only go to one point two five.
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