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Exploring the frontiers of Technology and AI
Josh:
Openai has got a browser just like chrome just like safari just like complexity
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openai now officially has a web browser that you
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can use today the download is available ejaz and i we have been playing around
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with it for the last hour or two it just got announced and we have a lot of
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thoughts and takes on this browser what it means for ai if it actually is valuable
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and what it means for the grand plan of openai this very much feels like a stepping
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stone in their attempt to gather more information,
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get more familiar with your habits, and then eventually roll out an operating
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system for you, for your human entire, your entire human experience.
Josh:
So this is a really exciting announcement.
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It's cool to see OpenAI jump into the browser game.
Josh:
Ejaz, I know you were all over the live stream too. We just finished watching
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it. What were the first impressions? Walk us through exactly what they even announced today.
Ejaaz:
So OpenAI's new browser is called Atlas, and it's as if Google Chrome and ChatGPT had a baby.
Ejaaz:
And I mean it because ChatGPT is at the center of this entire new browser.
Ejaaz:
It kind of looks like a browser.
Ejaaz:
You have familiar things like tabs, history.
Ejaaz:
You have a cursor that you can scroll. You can type in URLs.
Ejaaz:
But with some noticeable new features, Josh, you get browser memory.
Ejaaz:
So this is something that I'm super excited about.
Ejaaz:
In ChatGPT, something that makes it super special is that ChatGPT remembers
Ejaaz:
everything about me and it results in a really personalized AI experience.
Ejaaz:
That now comes over to your browsing experience in this new browser.
Ejaaz:
It remembers everything. You can search for new specific things.
Ejaaz:
If you're like, hey, I read something in a blog post the other week,
Ejaaz:
but I can't remember, you can kind of like now search for it.
Ejaaz:
And this other really cool feature called Agent Mode, which is currently only
Ejaaz:
available to Pro and Plus users.
Ejaaz:
But on this browser, you can now engage in OpenAI's agent to do things for you.
Ejaaz:
And if this sounds like something that's kind of familiar, it's because other
Ejaaz:
AI browsers have also pitched this kind of similar feature.
Ejaaz:
But I think it's quite unique in OpenAI sense because it gives you the ability
Ejaaz:
to kind of do other stuff and you can watch it do things for you.
Ejaaz:
It can book restaurants for you.
Ejaaz:
It can book flights for you. It could research things for you.
Ejaaz:
It could write code for you. Some really cool things.
Ejaaz:
My initial take on this, Josh, which may be a little controversial, is
Ejaaz:
It seems like a really cool new browsing experience, but I don't know how much
Ejaaz:
it necessarily adds to my life.
Ejaaz:
I get that it basically moves you from just using the chat GPT terminal to bringing
Ejaaz:
chat GPT to everywhere you browse on the internet. I get that.
Ejaaz:
But I don't know if it's noticeably different for me to kind of like jump all
Ejaaz:
in. Do you have any initial reactions?
Josh:
I think mine are probably similar to yours where we've seen AI browsers before.
Josh:
And in fact i almost feel like this could have been
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an extension kind of like what anthropic did they just
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released a browser extension that lives as a companion i understand
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why they didn't but it feels like it is about that level of importance um it's
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cool in the sense that it's a companion i don't know how much i'll use it i
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love the chat gpt app and i'm very stuck in my ways on how i use my browsers
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and and the way i use chrome and the way i use safari and i use a series of
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different browsers for different things.
Josh:
What I find interesting though is that
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There wasn't really anything new announced today. It's mostly just a wrapper
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of their existing technologies.
Josh:
So, Ijaz, you mentioned agent earlier as one of the key features.
Josh:
Well, we made an episode about agent from ChatGPT, like what,
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Two or three months ago, like quite a while ago, where they had announced the agent feature.
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What they did here is they really just rolled up that agent feature and they
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placed it into a web interface.
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And then another thing is the improved search, where they swapped
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out the Google search bar for a chat gpt search bar and when
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you type things in it will search using chat gpt and that's
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kind of what a lot of users are doing already is
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they're treating chat gpt like google and they're getting these like
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enhanced augmented answers through the browser experience so the
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new thing for me as a user would be just
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the fact that it's more embedded in everything so a common problem
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with the chat gpt application that sits on my desktop
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and my mobile app is that it doesn't have access to all the accounts
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that i'm logged into so i i need
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to like log into a lot of accounts it's kind of a pain with this browser
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feature it has access to everything and what
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i found interesting is there's actually two modes when you start to
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spin up the browser and you use the agentic feature it'll ask you it'll say
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hey do you want to use with logged in accounts or without login accounts and
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part of that it actually offers a warning saying hey this agent is actually
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going to take actions on your behalf so be sure to monitor it if you give it
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access to all of your accounts because there is a small chance that it does
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something that you may not want it to do.
Josh:
So it's very much this like early experimental software, but I do see it as the stepping stone.
Josh:
I mean, as we talk about this all the time where OpenAI wants the operating
Josh:
system for your life, they want to be the single AI subscription that powers
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everything from the time you wake up to the time you go to sleep and thinking
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proactively while you are asleep.
Josh:
And I think this is very much just another attempt to further embed themselves
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by getting into the browser experience and everything associated with that experience.
Ejaaz:
Yeah, I agree. I mean, I think I'm browsing through Fiji Simo,
Ejaaz:
the CEO of OpenAI Applications here, her announcement post about this.
Ejaaz:
And she goes over here, she goes, the apps SDK, which is something that OpenAI
Ejaaz:
released, I think, two weeks ago now.
Ejaaz:
And the whole point of the apps SDK was to bring apps into the ChatGPT app that
Ejaaz:
you and I and 800 million other weekly active of users use every week into ChatGPT.
Ejaaz:
So it enriches that experience.
Ejaaz:
But the point she makes here is, but ChatGPT should also be able to help you where you already are.
Ejaaz:
And this kind of got me thinking about how I use other AI models.
Ejaaz:
So another AI model I use is Grok, right? The one from XAI, that Elon Musk's AI model.
Ejaaz:
And I was talking to you about this before we started recording,
Ejaaz:
Josh. But one thing that I keep coming back to when it comes to using Grok is
Ejaaz:
it's because I'm browsing X and Twitter, Grok's already there.
Ejaaz:
So I can just press a button and get a summary of something or have something
Ejaaz:
explained to me that I don't quite understand that someone's talking about.
Ejaaz:
And I find that really addictive and useful to me. It improves my life.
Ejaaz:
If I could do that with ChatGPT, which is opened on another account in another
Ejaaz:
tab, but requires more clicks for me to get there.
Ejaaz:
I need to copy and paste the tweet. I need to give it a bit of context.
Ejaaz:
That kind of annoys me, right? So I don't use it.
Ejaaz:
Now, I potentially might, right? I log into X, ChatGPT gets access to all my
Ejaaz:
X history, which is probably good and very bad, and is able to kind of build
Ejaaz:
up a persona around me. So it already knows what I'm going to ask.
Ejaaz:
Maybe it suggests things as I'm scrolling through X.
Ejaaz:
And that integrated experience is really useful for me.
Ejaaz:
But on the other side, I don't know whether this is good enough for me to kind
Ejaaz:
of use a completely new browser, right?
Ejaaz:
You mentioned that you could import all your bookmarks and log into all your different accounts.
Ejaaz:
Yeah, that's cool. But I don't know if that's good enough for me to stop using Chrome entirely.
Josh:
Yeah, there was a series of interesting things in this post from Fiji.
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Fiji, CEO of product, not to be confused with CEO of the actual company.
Josh:
And there's a few things. One of the things in your key capability section was
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voice control, voice controlling your tabs. I think this is particularly interesting.
Josh:
One of my obsessions is how you engage with AI.
Josh:
And being able to actually engage with the browser using voice is something
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that I believe is novel and very interesting to me, where if I can just converse
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with my browser, if I could say, hey,
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open up this tab, find a post like this, and I could see it kind of visually doing that for me.
Josh:
I think that's an interesting unlock that I'm excited to play around with.
Josh:
And the other, she had a large section in here all about memory.
Josh:
And the memory thing I find interesting because this feels like the largest
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value prop for the user, but also for OpenAI and understanding the user more. And
Josh:
One of the first bullet points here, it says, Chachi Bati can remember your
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browsing patterns, preferences, and context.
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For example, gluten-free recipes. If you are resistant to gluten,
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it will search specifically for recipes that have no gluten just because it
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understands that memory preference stack.
Josh:
So that seems like an interesting part of it where, okay, you can talk to it with your voice now.
Josh:
It remembers more and has more context of the actual browser functionality.
Josh:
Um seems kind of interesting
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um but again to your point you just i'm kind of trying to
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i'm trying to convince myself give myself reasons why i would be excited to
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use this and voice is one um because i do love constantly when i use chat gpt
Josh:
my most frequent way of interfacing with it is with voice but is that enough
Josh:
i don't know i'm trying to find the killer use case that killer feature and
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i'm just falling short when i think about it
Ejaaz:
Okay so So I want to spin my most optimistic take on this new browser,
Ejaaz:
Josh, and it is as follows.
Ejaaz:
It's something you mentioned right at the start, which is, I think if we view
Ejaaz:
this as an intermediary step towards what is ultimately going to be a brand
Ejaaz:
new operating system for this AI technology,
Ejaaz:
I think that's an optimistic outlook and this makes sense, right?
Ejaaz:
Why does it make sense? Well, I think in a world where AI and AGI is used in
Ejaaz:
everything that I do, it needs to be incredibly personal.
Ejaaz:
So it needs to know everything about me.
Ejaaz:
And it needs to know everything about you, Josh. And the difference between
Ejaaz:
you and me will be vast and different and similar in many different ways.
Ejaaz:
But it needs to be able to distinguish between that.
Ejaaz:
I think a browser is a great step to do that. I kind of view my browser as my
Ejaaz:
homepage, my welcome page to the internet. the doormat, if you like.
Ejaaz:
I like that when I type in a URL on Google Chrome, it already knows which website
Ejaaz:
I'm trying to go to, which tab I already have opened, and it just takes me there directly.
Ejaaz:
But I feel like a next leap in that is an AI that's reading my mind that maybe
Ejaaz:
does some work for me, or that maybe preempts a bunch of things.
Ejaaz:
Maybe it books the restaurant that it knows I need to go to in two weeks' time
Ejaaz:
without me needing to kind of open up a tab and do it for myself.
Ejaaz:
So um what this end goal eventually
Ejaaz:
ends up being is this new operating system with whatever form factor uh we end
Ejaaz:
up using whether it's ai glasses that we've mentioned a lot on uh the show before
Ejaaz:
or whether it's a brand new one that open ai is cooking behind the scenes i
Ejaaz:
don't know i don't think we're quite there but i think this is an intermediary
Ejaaz:
step before that and therefore it's worth a.
Josh:
Shot so like we mentioned earlier in the episode this actually is available
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for download right now it's for mac only but we both
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downloaded it ejaz and i and we've been playing around with it in fact
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we want to give a demo right now so ejaz you have the browser open
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on the screen show us how it works what the one thing that
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i'm i'm kind of taken back by a first impression when i open this browser is
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how similar it looks to other browsers this really doesn't look any different
Josh:
from a chrome a safari any popular browser that you're used to i guess that's
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probably because we've been trained to use it but show us some of the cool new
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features maybe the agent feature and how we use that cool well
Ejaaz:
Yeah there's a bit of a magic wand that you can wave here which is this agent mode.
Josh:
Button right over here.
Ejaaz:
And you might notice that there is a new cursor that has appeared that is asking
Ejaaz:
me, what should we do today?
Ejaaz:
And this is basically OpenAI's agent that can do a bunch of things autonomously
Ejaaz:
for you as you browse or you can watch it, right?
Ejaaz:
So I have a specific prompt that I want to demo here, which is I'm asking it
Ejaaz:
to find the Limitless podcast on YouTube, subscribe to the channel,
Ejaaz:
and leave a comment about how great they are under their most recent episode. Excellent.
Ejaaz:
A little generic, but, you know, I have to give it a go. And I'm going to click
Ejaaz:
the button here to set the prompt.
Ejaaz:
And my initial reaction is, oh, this is just ChatGPT, right?
Ejaaz:
Like there's nothing new here. And then suddenly this new window appears before
Ejaaz:
me and it is my YouTube channel and it is sparkly and I can see a cursor moving, but it's not me, Josh.
Ejaaz:
I'm not moving this at all. And what I'm realizing is this is ChatGPT's agent
Ejaaz:
doing exactly what we requested of it autonomously in front of us. This is just so cool.
Josh:
I wonder how it's going to do it seems like it's located the
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podcast and what i like about this is you could kind of see the chain of thought
Josh:
on that right tab over here so it's um it's opening the search results it says
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i found a link for the limitless podcast that leads to a youtube channel so
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it's as it's clicking through these things it's walking through the steps and
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it's just entered our channel so we're here um
Ejaaz:
Oh and i just clicked.
Josh:
The subscribe button Okay, that's great.
Ejaaz:
We are now subscribed.
Josh:
Subscribing to Limitless is this easy.
Ejaaz:
And it's opened up. It's opened up our most recent video.
Josh:
Oh, this is kind of cool. Okay, it's doing it.
Ejaaz:
Let's see. Fingers crossed. Let's see. It's running a comment.
Josh:
Okay, it selected the comment, the text field. It's going to come up with hopefully
Josh:
something nice and generous.
Ejaaz:
Wow, this is the latest episode. It was fantastic. Limitless is truly pushing
Ejaaz:
the boundaries. And will it click publish?
Josh:
Let's see come on this is actually very impressive um how well it's working
Josh:
listen if you want to give a demo this is an excellent demo to do
Ejaaz:
Oh so i'm seeing on
Ejaaz:
here just gonna pause it i'm seeing on the right side it said i found the limitless
Ejaaz:
podcast channel subscribe to it and drafted a positive comment um would you
Ejaaz:
like me to post this comment now now what i like about this josh is it's asking
Ejaaz:
for my review before it posted because this is something that might affect how
Ejaaz:
people perceive me on the internet.
Ejaaz:
And so therefore it understands that this is a point where I need to interact
Ejaaz:
with the human to check that if it's cool.
Ejaaz:
So if I respond, yes, go ahead, it should post that comment. Let's have a look.
Josh:
Okay, we're back at the sparkly screen, which is symboling it's doing something.
Ejaaz:
And it's click comment. Boom. It's done.
Josh:
Sent. Done. Okay, that's pretty cool. That's epic. That's fun.
Josh:
It's a fun demo. It's fun to use.
Josh:
Now, granted, Ejaz, could you do this in the previous agent functionality of ChatGPT?
Josh:
Is that something you think would work?
Ejaaz:
No, because you would have to integrate YouTube directly into the ChatGPT terminal,
Ejaaz:
and that's not available.
Josh:
Okay, so this is a novel use case. That is exciting. Okay, so Ejaz, more demos.
Josh:
What else can this thing do? I know you yourself are a bit of a restaurant connoisseur.
Josh:
Do you have anything that we can test against that?
Ejaaz:
I am. So this is a real life use case that I need resolved ASAP,
Ejaaz:
which is I'm booking a dinner for four somewhere in New York on Friday,
Ejaaz:
and I haven't got a single reservation.
Ejaaz:
So I am booking a dinner with my friends on Friday.
Ejaaz:
Pick a restaurant in
Ejaaz:
williamsburg josh let's see uh williamsburg
Ejaaz:
and reserve it and so the agent as we've just demonstrated is going to uh find
Ejaaz:
a way uh to figure out what the best restaurant is in williamsburg or something
Ejaaz:
that might be suited towards my taste and hopefully book it Now, notice a few things.
Ejaaz:
I haven't given it my preference of time and I haven't kind of like logged into
Ejaaz:
any reservation platform. So it's a little more challenging than the previous
Ejaaz:
prompt where I'd already logged into my YouTube.
Ejaaz:
Now, typically you could log into your resi and it could just do this swiftly
Ejaaz:
for you. So I'm interested to see how it starts to tackle this.
Ejaaz:
Okay, so it's asked me a follow-up because I didn't give it enough information,
Ejaaz:
which is number of guests and preferred time.
Ejaaz:
So four guests and...
Ejaaz:
Uh around 7 p.m
Ejaaz:
and so it says let's do this it's starting to find reservations and what
Ejaaz:
we should see soon is a side window pop-up where it's going to start browsing
Ejaaz:
and using search to basically find a really cool restaurant now and there we
Ejaaz:
go right now it's looking at infatuation it's looking at eater these are all
Ejaaz:
popular food review sites that are in new york and it's going to find me something.
Ejaaz:
But whilst that's cooking, Josh, I kind of want to show some similar,
Ejaaz:
not as loud, but quiet features from this new browser that I think is pretty
Ejaaz:
cool. So why don't you give me something to search?
Josh:
I want to know more about the new M5 version of the Apple Vision Pro.
Josh:
They just released it last week. I was interested in getting it.
Josh:
I want to know more about that.
Ejaaz:
Okay, so let's go with Apple Vision Pro M5. So this is typical to any search
Ejaaz:
browser where you press enter, except you might notice a few different things here.
Ejaaz:
So immediately, rather than being faced with a Google ranking page where you
Ejaaz:
can see a bunch of hyperlinks and you kind of figure out which is the right
Ejaaz:
website to click to get your information on, you're given a chat GPT page where
Ejaaz:
it summarizes, it says, okay,
Ejaaz:
Josh, I kind of figured that you want to know what's good about this M5 chip.
Ejaaz:
Here's like the new features from the chip and why it's going to be so useful for you.
Ejaaz:
Here's what hasn't changed from the previous chip. And here's who this chip is mainly aimed for.
Ejaaz:
Maybe it's for a slightly more technical audience or someone that's looking
Ejaaz:
for a little bit more kick out of their computer than they're expecting.
Ejaaz:
So this is already more helpful for me than an average Google search where I
Ejaaz:
have to then go into the Apple website.
Ejaaz:
I need to navigate to the new M5 chip, Apple Vision Pros, and read about the new M5 thing.
Ejaaz:
What I'm noticing is it hasn't told me about the Vision Pro specifically.
Ejaaz:
It has given me some general takeaways here. But what I think is really interesting
Ejaaz:
here, Josh, is if I don't want to look at a chat GPT response,
Ejaaz:
I have the option up here, and you might notice a few tabs, to click search.
Ejaaz:
And suddenly I have my Google search interface that I missed and that I wanted
Ejaaz:
to engage with and select a link for myself.
Ejaaz:
But it also gives you the image option as well, which is, again, very typical of Google.
Ejaaz:
Or I can look at any videos of people who have done reviews of headsets for me.
Ejaaz:
So it's not straying too far from things that I'm comfortable with if I find
Ejaaz:
myself wanting to use those things again.
Ejaaz:
Do you have any immediate reactions to this, Josh?
Josh:
Yeah, well, my first reaction was, oh my god imagine 800
Josh:
million people using this product that is 800 million people less
Josh:
using google search so that felt like a big deal
Josh:
but now seeing that you can actually kind of invoke google
Josh:
search results which i'm assuming populates three of those four small
Josh:
tabs it softens the blow slightly but
Josh:
i imagine that's got to be transitory right like
Josh:
surely they don't want to continue to funnel traffic through
Josh:
google if they don't need to um to me like this
Josh:
whole thing it just feels kind of like the one of the oldest plays
Josh:
in the books right like you have product market fit with a single killer
Josh:
use case you have the best ai and then you just kind of like vertically integrate
Josh:
and then horizontally expand until you control the interface layer itself so
Josh:
it's like open ai again we saw this with um chat gpt first then we saw with
Josh:
recently with um what is the oh my gosh with sora and the image generation and
Josh:
now it's another example where they're
Josh:
It's only a matter of time to me until this platform grows into the life OS
Josh:
that we mentioned before and then displaces a lot of the services like Google.
Josh:
I mean, the demo that you just did with the search, it's pretty closely replicable
Josh:
through the desktop application, but you're already here and this is how you're
Josh:
used to using the internet.
Josh:
So the fact that it could just inject itself right into it is really cool.
Josh:
And we're checking back in on this demo for getting a reservation.
Josh:
It looks like it's going pretty well. I know this restaurant.
Ejaaz:
I have a massive grin on my face right now because although it didn't know this
Ejaaz:
about me, this is one of my favorite spots in the neighborhood.
Ejaaz:
Aurora Williamsburg, great Italian food for anyone who happens to find themselves in Brooklyn.
Ejaaz:
And it is reviewing another great restaurant as well.
Ejaaz:
And what I'm noticing is it's at the stage where it's condensed a bunch of the
Ejaaz:
top restaurants in my neighborhood and it's checking out reservation availability
Ejaaz:
right now. This is something I despise when I'm looking for food,
Ejaaz:
Josh. I love eating the food.
Ejaaz:
I love ordering the food. I don't really like doing all the reservations.
Ejaaz:
It's going on the open table. It's finding out whether there's a time slot for
Ejaaz:
me. It's going on resi. It's doing the same kind of thing.
Ejaaz:
And I like that I can actively see its thinking in real time. That's awesome.
Josh:
Okay, so I guess while that thinks, are there any final thoughts on ChatGPT?
Josh:
Maybe while I ask you, EJS, because this is a question I'm asking myself,
Josh:
is do you see yourself actually using this product?
Ejaaz:
No, not beyond a week. And I'm just going to be honest because I had a similar
Ejaaz:
experience when I was using Perplexity's AI browser that they released not too
Ejaaz:
long ago called Comet. We also reviewed that on the show here.
Ejaaz:
I used it pretty actively, but I realized that the thing that it was lacking
Ejaaz:
the most was it didn't know enough about me.
Ejaaz:
And maybe OpenAI's browser changes that for me, right? It has all the history
Ejaaz:
that I need to know, but I don't think it's good enough.
Ejaaz:
Like, typically they say, if you want to introduce a new product that competes
Ejaaz:
with an old version of it, it needs to be at least 10 times better than it.
Ejaaz:
I don't think this is 10 times better. Do you, Josh?
Josh:
I don't. I don't think it is. But I'm torn on whether or not I will use it.
Josh:
And I'm actually leaning more towards yes than no this time.
Josh:
And as like one of the biggest perplexity haters, I really think that this is
Josh:
different purely due to memory.
Josh:
Like ChatGPT really knows a lot about me. And what was interesting is during
Josh:
the onboarding flow, when you first download the browser and you get set up,
Josh:
is they give you a really easy option to click to transfer your Chrome history
Josh:
over to this new browser.
Josh:
So in one click, you've kind of transferred all of your history,
Josh:
all of your tabs, all your favorites, your bookmarks, your reading list,
Josh:
which is what I did. And then you kind of have to re-sign into the accounts again.
Josh:
But suddenly you do have this companion that kind of knows everything about
Josh:
you. It's just always there.
Josh:
And I want to say, I don't know. Like, I think the answer, you know what?
Josh:
If I'm being honest with myself, I think the answer is also no.
Josh:
I think one month from now, there's no way I'm using this browser.
Josh:
But I want to give this a shot.
Josh:
And I think it's too early to tell for sure. But I think you're right in the
Josh:
sense that I'm very happy with Google Chrome, and I'm very happy with my ChatGPT
Josh:
desktop application and my web app and my mobile app.
Josh:
So it's going to take a lot to replace that.
Ejaaz:
So here's the thing, right? We probably use the web browser for two types of activities.
Ejaaz:
One is work, right? Editing docs, coming up with agendas, researching a bunch
Ejaaz:
of things on X, YouTube, and then, you know, recording a video,
Ejaaz:
doing all these different types of things.
Ejaaz:
The other side is the leisure side of things, right?
Ejaaz:
Where you kind of want to be browsing and searching for your own things.
Ejaaz:
You're kind of like a discoverer on YouTube or like finding the right video
Ejaaz:
to watch whilst you read, right?
Ejaaz:
I don't know how much Atlas as an AI browser can add towards the leisure side
Ejaaz:
of things. I kind of want to do that myself.
Ejaaz:
Now, where I can see it actually being active here is,
Ejaaz:
to your point, if it knows everything about my browser history,
Ejaaz:
but it can do something with it,
Ejaaz:
aka imagine me opening up this browser and it has a bunch of tabs opened for
Ejaaz:
me for things that I want to read on my Reddit account for a particular post, or on X,
Ejaaz:
it's kind of opened up a post that it knows I'm going to like and want to start
Ejaaz:
my day off with, that could be quite cool.
Ejaaz:
And I could see that being pretty
Ejaaz:
sticky, but that's just me being hopeful on the work side of things.
Ejaaz:
I would love if I could just wake up in the morning and I have like a neat,
Ejaaz:
concise summary of all the latest AI things that have happened overnight whilst I've been asleep.
Ejaaz:
That's probably a simple thing that I can ask the agent to do.
Ejaaz:
But again, I'm being hopeful.
Ejaaz:
I want it to be proactive for me before I can like kind of commit to saying,
Ejaaz:
yeah, I'm going to use this as my new browser.
Josh:
Yeah, the leisure versus productivity thing. I actually brought up with Arvind
Josh:
on an episode that we did talking about perplexity.
Josh:
And I would recommend everyone goes and watch it because it gives some context
Josh:
on the thesis for the browser.
Josh:
And I think you're right in a lot of cases, Ejaz. And also, I very strongly
Josh:
believe this is just a stepping stone because the way that they're going about
Josh:
it, it feels like OpenAI is kind of going for the life OS, whereas perplexity
Josh:
is kind of going for the browser.
Josh:
And the browser very much feels like an incremental stepping
Josh:
stone where the reason right now the browser is better that
Josh:
we were talking about is because your accounts are logged in because it has
Josh:
the history because it has the context and if all that if all those hurdles
Josh:
went away um i think the most interesting and compelling part about this product
Josh:
is the agent feature the fact that it can go and do things without you and that's
Josh:
what we just saw here it looks like you do actually have a reservation you guys
Josh:
you have two minutes to complete it are you going to do that i
Ejaaz:
Am yeah Yeah, yeah. So my agent came back to me and said, hey,
Ejaaz:
I found a good restaurant, Soraki, which is a great Greek spot near me.
Ejaaz:
I'm holding the reservation for you for four people. Do you want me to go ahead and book it?
Ejaaz:
And it is basically going ahead and doing that. So all in all useful.
Josh:
Okay, well, I'm going to remove the screen share before it shows your phone
Josh:
number because we don't want everyone calling the line.
Josh:
But I think that that probably concludes the ChatGPT browser episode,
Josh:
right? Like it's, it is cool. It is impressive.
Josh:
It is an incremental stepping stone but maybe not the killer product that
Josh:
some people would imagine.
Ejaaz:
Yeah. Yeah. I'm curious to hear what others have to say about this.
Ejaaz:
I mean, you've just seen everything.
Ejaaz:
We've given you the entire breakdown of all the cool features.
Ejaaz:
We've shown you all the demos about how it actually looks, how it works.
Ejaaz:
It's available to anyone who's on macOS right now. Windows coming soon right after.
Ejaaz:
Let us know what you think. Are we wrong? Like, is there something useful that
Ejaaz:
is cool for you guys to use and we're not seeing let us know in the comments
Ejaaz:
let us know give us some feedback and and maybe we can kind of give a review on it later on.
Josh:
Yeah just looking for killer use cases if there's anything
Josh:
we're missing there's also a funny thing on the availability of
Josh:
this ejaz where it's available to free plus and premium users but if you are
Josh:
a free user and you allow the atlas browser to become your default browser they
Josh:
will unlock seven days of extended limits on messaging file uploads data analysis
Josh:
and image generation on chat gpt atlas so there's a lot of growth Hex embedded in this.
Josh:
It's very clear they're doing this to just kind of get as many people into the
Josh:
platform as possible and get more of that platform lock.
Josh:
And it's doing a good job. I mean, this is by all means a good product.
Josh:
It is in line with, I think, everything else that's on the market.
Josh:
And we'll just follow along and see how things go from here.
Josh:
But that has been another episode of the Limitless Podcast. Thank you so much for watching.
Josh:
And we'll be back in a couple of days for the roundup of the week. I'll see you guys then.