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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. As we look back at the past couple of years, we can see that the big pharmaceutical companies in conjunction and coercion and whatever you want to call it with the government and all these other corrupt agencies have played a massively negative role in the future of humanity with these vaccines. And we've seen deaths and harm and I mean, untold numbers of people. And there's a lot of questions that I have.
Seth Holehouse:One of the big questions is that will there be justice? So we've recently seen that Pfizer stock has dropped, I think, around 44% in the last year. But what's the future hold? Because according to my guest today, Doctor. Peter McCullough, yes, while the stock has dropped because of the vaccine, the booster uptake is dismal.
Seth Holehouse:They're now investing in imagine that cancer treatment and myocarditis treatment. So the big question I have is that is Pfizer going to continue just this massive criminal racket, and now shift their money into paying and selling the solutions and selling the fixes to the problem they made with the vaccine. But according to Doctor. McCullough, there are some things happening that show that the there's maybe a crack in the dam that's breaking. And in particular, he goes into explaining, basically, the two layers of legal protection the big pharma vaccine makers have, but also how those layers are pierced and what that means.
Seth Holehouse:So folks, please enjoy this conversation with Doctor. Peter McCullough. Doctor. McCullough, as always, it's great to have you on the show. Thank you so much for joining us today.
Speaker 2:Thanks for having me back.
Seth Holehouse:Absolutely. So while our shows are oftentimes a little bit morbid and kind of depressing, okay, here's the rates of myocarditis, and here's the amount of deaths and damage that have been done. There's also the response of the people and the governments around the world to the reality of what these shots are, what they've done to people. And as we were talking about before the show, we started recording, there's actually some positive inertia in terms of taking these companies down and really limiting their power. And I'll start just to get the conversation started.
Seth Holehouse:Pfizer shares are down 44% year to date. I mean, this is this is huge. I mean, if if this was Apple or any other public company, the shareholders would be, you know, breaking the doors down, and they'd be frantically scrambling to correct this. But this is obviously something very significant happening. We're seeing similar with Moderna and their their stock prices.
Seth Holehouse:So what are you seeing from your angle in terms of a key response to the world honestly waking up to the reality of what these shots are doing to people?
Speaker 2:Let's just take Pfizer since you since you brought them up. Remember, Pfizer makes the messenger RNA vaccine for COVID and the boosters and their aspiration that would would be that people take these every six months indefinitely. And what we've learned is that very few Americans have, you know, taken 10 shots now because you take the two initial with the every six month boosters, it would add up to about 10 shots. Very few people have. Most people stopped at some point in time.
Speaker 2:The rate of being completely unvaccinated in The United States is about seventy five percent according to the completely They've taken one or more shots, seventy five percent according to the COVID Community States Program. It means twenty five percent are unvaccinated. I did not take the vaccine. Never safe enough for me. And I freely told people like that.
Speaker 2:I I can't advise it for my patients. Wasn't safe enough for me. It's not gonna be safe enough for my patients. Now having said that, of those who took the shots, progressively fewer people are taking boosters. October fourth of this year, the reports were only one point three percent had taken an XBB one point five booster.
Speaker 2:Each booster has come in too late, and the variant that is covering already has quickly left before the booster can have coverage. People know this. Now we hear, across Europe, return of of a huge number of vaccines that are being wasted. People don't want these. The government purchase, don't forget, is covering the entire country.
Speaker 2:So even if what the CDC is correct and we get to 15% booster rate, that means 85% go to waste. The companies are all planning with these prepurchase contracts to, you know, to have this revenue stream. The stock price doesn't represent the revenues, which are still quite strong. They represent future, what people expect in the future. Pfizer also has Paxlovid, the drug to treat COVID.
Speaker 2:But we've had progressively fewer cases of COVID. The fall outbreak of of the FL one point five EG five outbreak was pretty small. I analyzed Texas recently for a lecture. Texas has had ninety two thousand deaths attributed to COVID, either, you know, directly due to COVID or with COVID. Turns out that, in 2023, it, it was fifteen hundred deaths.
Speaker 2:So to give you any proxy, almost all the action was before 2023. That means very few people were ever treated with Paxlovid in 2023. You know, we've been back to normal now for years. People, restaurants are full, people are on the planes, people aren't fearful of COVID. And so much of the fear drove vaccination.
Speaker 2:It drove a lot of this drug use, etcetera. And then the final piece to the Pfizer story is the Texas attorney general Ken Paxton lawsuit. So the Texas attorney general has sued Pfizer regarding their vaccines and violating the Texas Deceptive Trade Practices Act, meaning that Pfizer deceived the people in the state of Texas over safety and efficacy of the vaccines.
Seth Holehouse:And so this is all significant because I think that for people like myself and yourself that have been involved in trying to expose this for a couple of years since really the beginning of this. In in many ways, it just felt like it was David versus Goliath that these these giant corporations, not only do they have unlimited money, it seemed, but they also had the government completely on their side, big tech completely on their side. And you couldn't get this information out. But it seems like that the narrative is really shifting. They're losing their power.
Seth Holehouse:They're losing the immunity that it seemed like they had at one point.
Speaker 2:It sure is true. Now, physician, legislator, senator in Kansas, Mark Steffen led an effort last year to get vaccine advertising off of the TV channels in the state of Kansas, and they were successful. I heard today for someone close to incoming governor Jeff Landry that that's gonna be the first thing they do in the state of Louisiana is ban these vaccine commercials. Remember the vaccines are not fully licensed. Everybody knows that commercials aren't legit because they're not giving the side effects.
Speaker 2:Anything advertised on TV has to give a long list of the side effects in fair balance to the theoretical benefits. Instead, the vaccine commercials I don't if you saw this most recent one with Travis Kelce of the Kansas City Chiefs where he says, just take a vaccine and protect your grandmother. They're not disclosing that the vaccine can cause fatal side effects like myocarditis, stroke, Guillain Barre syndrome, blood clots. I mean, there's quite a long list of side effects. Everyone knows those commercials aren't fair.
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Seth Holehouse:So looking at those stock numbers, which we looked at, looking at the uptake in in or really lack of uptake in boosters. And I think you made a good point in saying that, stock prices are representative not of current revenue, but the future. Right? How are they gonna do in q one of twenty twenty four, q '2 '20 '20 '4, etcetera? That it's looking like they're headed.
Seth Holehouse:It's it's a pretty negative trajectory. So I from what I see, the only thing that could probably pull them out of this tailspin would be some sort of new pandemic where they have some new cure. But even with that, I feel like that most people it's kind of, you know, fool me once, shame on me. Or sorry, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. That if this happens again, they're not just gonna rush out and get whatever vaccine.
Seth Holehouse:Right? And what what do you think about the future prospects of where these big pharma companies go from here?
Speaker 2:Believe it or not, I think they'll be looking at chronic disease. You know, the anticoagulants, I've never prescribed so many oral blood thinners in my life. Pfizer makes one of the leading ones. Pfizer just announced they're acquiring a cancer company. Paper out today in PubMed listed journal Curious by Anguis demonstrates that the vaccines almost certainly have cancer causing potential.
Speaker 2:And I think some of the companies are actually getting ready to sell more drugs for blood clots, cancer, and other problems. Noticed on LinkedIn, they prominently mentioned society. All over LinkedIn is the myocarditis society. I've never seen this before, COVID nineteen. I'm always commenting about are they gonna fund research for vaccine induced myocarditis or why is myocarditis so prominent on LinkedIn?
Speaker 2:I mean, all these things have this contemporary nature with mass vaccination.
Seth Holehouse:So it's interesting to put that together. So do you think that potentially the boom of the vaccine sales, you know, during the pandemic, though that's is on its way out that these companies are not gonna pivot into treating all the problems or vaccines caused, right? I mean, it's, I guess it's a pretty good business models make everyone sick and dying and then turn around and and that's that's, you know, me, the modern big pharma industry. Think that's kind of their their core business. Right?
Seth Holehouse:I mean, so do you think that's what they're now pivoting to that you're gonna see now Pfizer that's treating cancer, treating myocarditis, and that they're gonna be relying on that industry instead of the industry of selling the vaccines as their main bread and butter?
Speaker 2:Absolutely, for sure. We are seeing cardiovascular mortality go up, acceleration of atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease, myocarditis, blood clots. As I mentioned, we've never seen blood clots like this before. Prescription blood thinners. Prescription blood thinners, most of the ideal ones are not generic, so they're branded drugs.
Speaker 2:This is gonna be an absolute boon for these companies. And you're right. They pivot to what they call unmet needs. The vaccine has caused, unfortunately, a great set of unmet needs, and now everyone's trying to rush to fill that void.
Seth Holehouse:So do you think that they'll recover through this? Do you think that you know, we're gonna see that we see that drop in Pfizer stock that say next year, as you mentioned, with they've acquired a cancer company, maybe they're acquiring a new, you know, heart med and blood thinners that it just gonna they're just gonna continue, unfortunately.
Speaker 2:Well, think how much revenue and capital they have. Blockbuster drug used to be considered earning a billion dollars in its first year of sales. And they used to spend half a billion or more in research and development. Now with the COVID vaccines where they they were offloaded of the research and development costs, the the US government picked that up. You know, the companies earn tens of billions of dollars on vaccines.
Speaker 2:Think about how far ahead they are. Their war chest is absolutely full. They they didn't have any sales and marketing expenses. Everything was paid for by the US government. It's literally like a cash cow for them.
Speaker 2:And Pfizer didn't make their own vaccines. It was made through a consortium of biodefense contractors. Moderna didn't either. So it's not like their their r and d facilities or the manufacturing facilities were that full. You know, Pfizer really hasn't they even pursued full licensure.
Speaker 2:They were asked by the US government to do myocarditis. Prospective cord studies never were done. And, you know, we've learned that Pfizer still to this day has not produced a single inspection report for us to look at. What's what's in these vaccines? What's the quantity of messenger RNA impurities?
Speaker 2:Story is broken that there's now process related impurities, DNA in the vials of messenger RNA. The DNA comes off this plasmid that's in E. Coli. It's concerning because DNA fragments can go right into human cells. And there's never been an inspection report provided.
Speaker 2:Pfizer on their website says they have 40 different quality control steps, but they don't outline what they are. Now we learned in the last few days Moderna at one of its facilities flunked quality control big time. And they're going to get some major letters from the FDA. They said, companies have been very sloppy in COVID nineteen vaccine manufacturing. Look at Janssen and AstraZeneca.
Speaker 2:They're they were on the market. Now they're off the market. They're both made at a defense contractor called, Emergent BioSolutions, outside of Baltimore. You know, all these companies are gonna have to get inspected. What in the world happened?
Speaker 2:Why did people get so harmed by these vaccines? And why were they so sloppily manufactured and put forward? The COVID vaccines have been out three years. We have not been in a panic or rush for three years. We should have had tons of inspections, tons of quality improvement.
Speaker 2:We should have figured out where the side effects are, got things cleared up. Instead, the companies have done nothing.
Seth Holehouse:I recently interviewed a woman, Melissa McAtee, who she was a Pfizer employee. And she's since come out as a whistleblower. And it was a really interesting conversation because she was in outgoing QAQC. She was inspecting products as they're being packaged and shipped out. And she said that distinctly that she noticed a massive change in procedure as soon as COVID happened.
Seth Holehouse:And the the checks, she saw huge drops in quality in QAQC checks as soon as COVID happened. A lot of things actually going out to consumer before even being finally inspected by people who are supposed to inspect them. But what she also said was she had obviously, you know, someone would know a lot have a lot of friends, you know, coworkers, etc. She had multiple people that were working in the incoming QAQC, where they're the ones that are, you know, say they have a different company manufacturing product for them. It's, you know, white label going, investigating that.
Seth Holehouse:They're they're overseeing raw materials coming in. And she said multiple people in the incoming QAQC told her that a lot of the COVID vaccines arrived in basically unmarked bags of liquid with Chinese writing on them. So that that these liquids are coming from somewhere maybe in China, and that they actually weren't able to inspect the production process of them. They're basically arriving in these bags with Chinese writing, and then they're being packaged and then sent out to consumers as the Pfizer COVID vaccine.
Speaker 2:I can't verify. Unfortunately, I can't verify that. But I can tell you, Pfizer has never produced an inspection report. There's always inspection reports called good manufacturing compliance. And these are always publicly available, usually actually in the briefing booklet that is reviewed at the time of the FDA consideration.
Speaker 2:They never have neither is Moderna, neither have any of the other companies. And many think it's because they're emergency use authorized. They're not fully licensed. So they haven't gone through all these rigorous steps. Remember, they skipped all the preclinical testing.
Speaker 2:So now there's a concern regarding cancer. Well, there was no preclinical testing for oncogenesis as an example. Know, these were so slipshod in terms of how they were were put forward. Now it's not surprising that people say, wait a minute. They're they're skipping a lot of these, quality control steps.
Speaker 2:Senator Johnson, wrote the CDC and the FDA who are the official sponsors of the vaccine program and said, listen. We've got a lot problem, a lot more side effects in certain batches, and very few side effects than others. Schmeling, in, Verbiki Manichi from Denmark published the Pfizer data, and it was clear there's there's hot lots. There's some lots where the side effects are through the roof. They've recently verified that actually with another dataset in Denmark, so it's very solid.
Speaker 2:So the companies know that they have a problem with their product, but none of the companies will inspect it and see what it is. Is it contaminants? Is it just hyperconcentration of messenger RNA or aggregation of lipid nanoparticles? Whatever it is, the the side effects should be random across all the lots. They shouldn't be concentrated.
Speaker 2:It's so bad that people created websites. How bad is my lot so people can get their vaccine card and look it up? I have patients do that all the time. Say, Doctor. McCollum really worried I was in the top 10% of the bad vaccines out there.
Speaker 2:For the FDA to not comment on this, to turn a blind eye, HHS, the Department of Defense, the manufacturing contractors, it really puts people ill at ease. I am not comfortable at all with any of the government's government agency actions as they relate to the vaccines.
Seth Holehouse:Hey, folks. I've got a quick message for you. So I'm sure you've heard a lot of people, myself included, talking about the importance of buying precious metals, gold and silver. But what's really behind that? Is it just a thing of, hey, buy this gold, buy this silver.
Seth Holehouse:Right? Or is there something deeper that we should be looking at? So I recently came across some figures about house prices. So in 1930, the average family home was approximately $4,000. Fast forward to 02/2023, the average family home is just over $400,000.
Seth Holehouse:So you have to ask yourself, why is that? Is it because things have just gotten more expensive? No, it's actually because the dollar has lost 99% of its value since 1930. Right? When people talk about the collapse the dollar or inflation, this is what it means.
Seth Holehouse:Now let's take a look at gold. So in 1930, if you wanted to purchase your home in gold, it would take approximately 200 gold coins. So 200 gold coins would purchase the average family home in 1930, about $4,000. Now, if you instead of buying a home with that gold or cash, you set those aside. If you set aside $4,000 in cash in 1930, it would be worth $4,000 today.
Seth Holehouse:What can you buy with $4,000? Can you buy a family home? No, you can't even buy a crappy used car. But if you set aside $4,000 worth of gold coins in 1930, which is 200 gold coins, 1 ounce coins, that would be worth approximately $400,000 today. And this is the key lesson about precious metals.
Seth Holehouse:It's not about getting rich. It's about putting your money into an asset that protects you against inflation and against the destruction of the currency, which is what happens to all fiat currencies, especially now we're in the end days of the dollar. And so that's why it's important, maybe not all of your money, but a portion of your money, a portion of what you have, I highly recommend putting it into precious metals of gold and silver because what it's doing is it's protecting you. This is an asset that has stood the test of time, not just stood the test of time since the 1930s, we're talking about the rise and fall of civilizations. Gold was used to buy houses back in ancient Rome.
Seth Holehouse:It's still around. It's an asset that will forever have its value. So folks, if you want to do this and you need someone you can trust, there's no person I can recommend more than doctor Kirk Elliott. He's a very good friend of mine. He's a strong Christian patriot, and he's out to really help people to protect their savings and what you've worked for against the destruction of the dollar, not to mention also protecting it against the dangers of a central bank digital currencies.
Seth Holehouse:So to learn more about this, go to goldwithseth.com or call (720) 605-3900. Again, that's goldwithseth.com or (720) 605-3900. Both those places will allow you to set up a quick appointment where you can talk to a wealth advisor that will help get you started on this path. Again, goldwithseth.com 7 2 0 6 0 5 3 9 0 zero. So we we mentioned before how they had this, obviously, this massive boom of business with the COVID vaccines that's now on its, you know, a a very big drop.
Seth Holehouse:But they're now having all these other treatments coming out to treat, in a lot of ways the the problems that their, you know, previous product has caused. But the one of the questions that I have is in terms of the awareness. So I know that, you know, I've met you many times at the reawaken tours and and we, you know, medical, you know, health and and freedom conferences. The people that attend those conferences are very aware. And they see a lot more than the average person does.
Seth Holehouse:But the average person is the one that's really driving the revenue of these businesses, right? It's the it's the majority, it's that big chunk of people in the middle that are still going and getting treatments and seems kind of blindly following what their doctor says. Now, with the the COVID vaccine, one the things I've kind of thought is in people I've talked to, I understand I'm talking to a much more limited kind of slice of the population. These are people that are saying, okay, now that I see what they've done with the vaccine, I don't trust anything that Pfizer's pumping out their factories because how could I? So are you seeing in your interaction with people that are being treated for various things that that there's a growing distrust for these big pharmaceutical companies in general?
Seth Holehouse:Or that they're just kind of saying, Okay, well, what can help this and okay, I'll take another Pfizer drug instead? Or are you seeing that actually that fundamentally people are losing trust in big pharma?
Speaker 2:Fundamentally, people are losing trust. I see it all the time. People come in and say, Listen, I don't want to take prescription drugs. I just want to take over the counter supplements. And it's really hard.
Speaker 2:The over the counter supplements typically are not as medicinally active as the prescription drugs. And so, know, there's a global pullback right now. It's not really identified with any particular company is people just don't wanna take medicines. There's one class of medicines that's really being targeted because there are some books being written on them. It's a drug class called statins, which lower cholesterol.
Speaker 2:And statins is tough. I prescribed them my whole career. In fact, I was in practice before they came out. But statins in about fifteen percent of people cause muscle aches. It's pretty predictable.
Speaker 2:And it's usually severe upper arm. You can't raise your arms. The problem is one hundred percent of people out there have muscle aches. Everyone does. So as soon as you mention as a side effect, one hundred percent of people think they have that side effect.
Speaker 2:And so it becomes this endless, you know, issue. If people don't take statins, we're left with either injectable drugs, which are expensive and not widely approved or pretty ineffective supplements and other drugs. And so people end up not taking statins and they'll, you know, need a heart bypass surgery, stents, have a heart attack or stroke. And I always tell people, listen, you know, it's a free country. You can do whatever you wanna do.
Speaker 2:But this idea of, you know, drawing your battle line on a statin is a is a pretty tough one. I mean, they've been exhaustively studied. We know exactly this side effect relationship. We do know they prevent heart attacks and strokes in high risk people within two years. You know, taking them for five, ten, fifteen, twenty years is probably a massive benefit.
Speaker 2:And, it's just hard. People with patient after patient after patient say, listen, I don't wanna take a statin. I said, well, let me guess. Will you take really toxic chemotherapy? Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2:I'll sign up for that. Well, like, grief. I mean, these are $3 drugs. They're available over the counter in most countries. I mean, the war is over on statins.
Speaker 2:It it really is in my view. And people just have to decide. Are they going to kind of live with this? Or are they going to try to fight it?
Seth Holehouse:I also have a question for you, because I know you're a practicing doctor, and you have people are coming in as you've been talking about that, and some of them might come in for a Pfizer subscription. So you're also someone that you you understand very in a very detailed manner, the effect of these of the actual vaccine, you know, the COVID vaccines and how much just how much death and harm they've caused to humanity. So in your position, how do you balance that? How do you balance knowing the what these COVID vaccines have done knowing that the QAQC procedures of a company like Pfizer, for instance, knowing what is in their, you know, published side effects, etc. Because you know, you're you have extensive knowledge of this.
Seth Holehouse:How do you balance that with still having, you know, sometimes recommending one of their other products if someone's coming in or someone comes in and requests it? Because I know that as we talked about for someone that's saying that they see the vaccine, they're saying, Okay, look, I don't trust that company at all, which that's where I'm at now. I mean, I haven't been on prescription meds, I think my whole life basically may have had, you know, some small things as I was younger. But in your position, how do you, I guess, professionally or even morally come to a place where you've figured that out?
Speaker 2:Well, I do think at this point in time, the corruption has been really circumscribed by COVID. And somehow COVID turned on the corruption gear in these companies. And it may be the fact that if the government is is running the show here. Remember, the government buys the vaccines. The vaccines are considered government property.
Speaker 2:When you go buy a Pfizer drug, you're a consumer. You're buying their drug and they're selling it to you. They're responsible. They have liability. The COVID vaccines are completely different.
Speaker 2:Now as a practicing doctor, well over 90% of the drugs I prescribe are generic. So actually, I do not know when they go to get it filled, generic supplier is going to supply it. And so it's not, Pfizer just doesn't have a stranglehold over what we're doing. Even the prescription blood thinner Eliquis, they don't physically make it. They just co market it with another company that makes it.
Speaker 2:And patients don't have that degree of discernment either. So I don't think it's like, well, I'm, you know, I'm going to boycott Pfizer. I'm going to boycott AstraZeneca. Now Moderna doesn't make any other therapeutics. All they have is the COVID vaccine at this point in time.
Speaker 2:But I just think there's just a general distrust, general backlash. People are furious at their doctors for pushing these vaccines. Doctors are having a hard time saying they're sorry, trying to change course on things. So we're in a great controversy right now in medicine.
Seth Holehouse:And how do you think that will shape the future of medicine? Because what I'm seeing from the people I'm talking to in the events I go to is that there's this this big parallel economy building of people that are now seeking alternative treatments, whether it's for cancer, or even common, you know, common things are looking for more natural remedies, etc. So how do you think this could shape where medicine would be in, say, five or ten years?
Speaker 2:It really depends on research. We'd have to have a lot more research on natural solutions. One of the challenge with natural solutions is the fact that so many baseless claims are made. So, you know, a natural over the counter product is under the Federal Trade Commission. Someone could say, well, it helps you focus better.
Speaker 2:Focus factor. Here, just, take this and you'll your mental function will be better Or take this and your sexual function without any supportive scientific data. So there's Federal Trade Commission did an analysis years ago. About 80% of things, the quote natural things over the counter, have no evidence behind them at all. So it's really hard.
Speaker 2:We're trying to weed through them. In general, they're just not very powerful. So you have to people, again, they bring in huge backpacks full of over the counter supplements and you know, a couple little prescription pills could probably just do the job. But people are taking, you know, lots of supplements and this idea that they can get away from taking prescription pharmaceuticals. And and, it's expensive because these bottles all cost money.
Speaker 2:But what people want is they want control. They do not want a doctor telling them they need to take a drug and being tethered to a prescription. They want control and they're willing to pay a lot of money for that control.
Seth Holehouse:Hey, folks. I have a quick message for you. Thank you so much for watching and listening to this interview. I have one small request. If you're enjoying what you're listening to, could you please share this interview with one person?
Seth Holehouse:Just one person. Because of censorship and shadow banning, it's so hard to get this content out to more people. And the only way we can really do it is when you help by sharing it. So if you like what you're listening to, hit pause, share it with one person. It helps so much.
Seth Holehouse:Thank you so much.
Speaker 2:The goal is that they're gonna have to try to do as well, not on these drugs. And it's hard. It means losing weight and getting fit and exercising and stopping a lot of bad habits and on and on and on. So we're gonna see. I I I can tell you right now that the interest in natural approaches is through the roof.
Speaker 2:I am concerned about conflict of interest because in this world, you know, there'll be somebody who thinks, you know, that the whole problem is copper. If you just take in enough copper, then the next person will get up and say, well, if you just take silver, the next person will get up and say, well, if you just take nitric oxide. And then each person has their own own table out in the foyer where they're selling their products. You know? And and and and people complain about big pharma and conflict of interest.
Speaker 2:This is the same issue. This is direct conflict of interest in people in this kind of natural supplement world.
Seth Holehouse:Which makes it tricky. I mean, and and think it leaves the consumer in a difficult place where, know, you've come to this place like, my gosh, you know, I've had family that were injured from the vaccine. And, you know, they've formed a distrust from that perspective. But then where they're going to, I mean, I've seen within the industry or just within the the kind of conservative movement of people that are leaving behind a lot of these, these values and companies that have turned woke, and they're seeking, you know, so new opportunities, or they're seeking to say move their money from a Vanguard IRA into gold as an example. And I've seen that a lot of the gold companies are actually scamming people.
Seth Holehouse:And they're taking advantage of the fact that a lot of people are concerned about the dollar concerned about the banking system, and they're vulnerable, and they're moving their assets to places that are say gold, but they're getting ripped off, and they're being sold gold at three times what they should pay for it. And they're moving maybe a couple hundred thousand dollar savings accounts over. And so my concern is that the same thing is happening probably in medicine. Because there's obviously there's good people that want to help, they want to provide solutions, etc. But there's also people that see, wow, there's this massive movement of money from mainstream medical and the big pharma into the alternative health and the more holistic health.
Seth Holehouse:So we can take advantage of that, and we can sell people any any number of things and make a lot of money. So that's also a concern that I have with where things are headed. Well,
Speaker 2:you know, fortunately, most of these various natural supplements themselves are pretty affordable. So how the companies make money is just on a massive sales perspective. But even when somebody pays for a bottle of a supplement, they'll easily spend that or more going out to a restaurant in Dallas on a Friday night. It boils down to disposable income. But I can tell you, do see this kind of piracy going on.
Speaker 2:It's fear driven. People don't like the fact that they're being told things in the news that they can't substantiate with their own eyes. And they're just and they're seeing massive outflows of tax dollars for things they don't have any control over, like for vaccines or for personal protective equipment. This whole COVID response was a massive unregulated, unchecked flow of government dollars for the COVID response. We didn't have any control of it.
Speaker 2:Now we're seeing money being released to Ukraine. And it's just hard. We're being told things that it's impossible to substantiate. I mean, one example, Seth, is the border. All we hear is the border crisis.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, I listened to senate testimony on this, and both the Democrats and Republicans agree the number of people who have crossed into The United States illegally is estimated between to be seven to 8,000,000 people. Seven to 8,000,000. That's the size of Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex. Well, I can tell you if you put any type of math to paper on this, if there was 7,000,000 people across the border, we'd have 10 cities up and down I-thirty 5 in Texas. Our school systems be overloaded.
Speaker 2:The ERs would be overloaded. This is the entire population of Dallas Fort Worth. Yet we see no signs of people in Texas in any of our cities, nobody on the side of the road. The school in Dallas is contracting, not expanding. The Department of Labor Statistics say there's a labor shortage of people to work out in the fields.
Speaker 2:Restaurants can't, you know, fully staff up because they can't find servers. So the question that everybody had is, you know, at these senate hearings recently is where are these people? If they've crossed, where are they? There's no traces of them. And there's no embedded reporting.
Speaker 2:So not a single reporter reporting on the border crisis has taken the effort to figure out where do people go. Do you see what I mean? We're just being presented things that just cannot be substantiated. Recently, I went to New York City. I was all over New York City.
Speaker 2:We looked hard. Central Park. We looked hard for a migrant crisis in New York. Can't find it. Can't find it.
Speaker 2:And for a while, I used to be chief of cardiology in Kansas City, Missouri. It's a great state. Missouri is the show me state. So when people ask me about the border crisis, I said, you know, I'd have to see where they go. I see pictures of people crossing the border, and it's always curious to me that they never have any belongings.
Speaker 2:I've never seen people migrate without taking their belongings. It's just a very interesting observation. Ukraine's even more interesting. I've never seen any film of any any fighter pilots battling each other, any tanks battling each other. There's no casualty counts.
Speaker 2:There's no lines of demarcation to show who's winning and who's who's losing and no humanitarian crisis. There's never been a war without a humanitarian crisis. People ask me about that. I said, listen. I'd have to go and see it see it for myself.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah. It's just it's just
Speaker 2:there's and, again, no embedded reporting.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah, even war footage. I mean, you look at, say, the Iraq War, etc. I mean, there's all kinds of journalists that were alongside, like, know, Laura Logan, were on the front lines, Michael Jan, these different reporters. And, yeah, it's interesting about Ukraine. That's a whole different topic.
Seth Holehouse:But I've had similar thoughts where it's like, well, where's all the where's all the footage? You see see little snippets here and there. But, yeah, it's it's hard.
Speaker 2:You see some token photos, but you don't see something where, you know, this has gone on for years. There should be endless footage of tank battles and and fighter pilot battles and reports of fighters going down, prisoners, swapping prisoners. You know, there is a business of war. It's a business of war. And in this case, we're told the combatants, you know, have instruments of war.
Speaker 2:They have tanks. They have soldiers. They have guns. They have ammo. And yet there's no reporting of the war.
Speaker 2:We're just told that more money should should go over. So, again, I I just have to go there and see it myself. So we're at the point where things are going on in the world. It's, impossible to substantiate things. Sometimes we're shown things that simply aren't true, and we just they're just not true.
Speaker 2:I mean, you just can't. They just can't be the the case. So, you know, and then then later on, there's usually a recanting. Well, that picture really wasn't from this crisis. That was from an old crisis over here.
Speaker 2:And there's some explanation afterwards. I think in this era of artificial intelligence, easy clipping of videos and people posting them, the the populace has quickly conjured up some type of emotions or animus, and then they get activated on something. You say, wait a minute. Is this is this really happening? Is there any substantiation of this happening?
Speaker 2:And then people can't can't tell you.
Seth Holehouse:It's a difficult era.
Speaker 2:An interesting time, for sure. Yeah. But I think we learned about this in COVID.
Seth Holehouse:Folks, I have a quick message for you. Look. The twenty twenty four election is do or die for the globalist and communists that have infiltrated our country and are currently running it. And they either have to win or they're gonna destroy America so nothing is left either way. And if you're the person that's watching this show and following this information, unfortunately, you have the weight on your shoulders of making sure that your family is prepared, especially as we head in to this next year and this next election cycle because unfortunately, I think it's going to get rough.
Seth Holehouse:And one of the ways I know they're going to target us is through our food supply. You can see all the food factories burned down, you can see the warnings of coming famines and food shortages and everything like that. And food is one of the number one ways totalitarian regimes have always used to control the populations destroy the food supply. So if you don't have at least two, three, four, five, six months worth of stored food, I highly recommend you take that very seriously. Because look, as I mentioned, if you're the person that's watching this, you're the person that carries the burden of making sure your family is prepared.
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Speaker 2:We were told, listen. COVID is gonna be wiping out the country, and there was all this panic. And I'll never forget in Dallas after Andrew Cuomo in New York said, we're being wiped out. We're being wiped out. And they built an army hospital in Dallas at the Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center.
Speaker 2:They had 1,200 beds, ventilators, IV bags, soldiers standing in attention at the ready. And I published an op ed in the hill. I was published a whole series of op eds in the hill in 2020 by invitation. I said they're not gonna use a single bed. Hospitals are relatively empty.
Speaker 2:Know I was sitting in one every day. My office is right by the ER. I kept looking out to see the tsunami of patients. There was no tsunami of patients. So we were actually told things during COVID which weren't correct.
Speaker 2:We were deceived. And, you know, whoever's, you know, performing this deception has learned that the populace can be deceived through through mainstream and social media and independent media. So now things become casual conversation. Oh, there's a border crisis. Isn't this terrible?
Speaker 2:And we need to do something about it. We'll we'll elect somebody who's gonna quote close the border. But we have to ask ourselves, you know, these numbers are pretty big. Has anybody ever asked these people where they're going or let alone follow them? Where do these people go?
Speaker 2:Sure. There's a handful of people in New York, a handful of people elsewhere. But seven, eight million, that's this this population of Dallas Fort Worth. That means we would have tent cities all over California, Texas, Arizona, and New Mexico with that number of people. Tent cities everywhere.
Speaker 2:You can't hide them. You can't hide them. That's a massive number.
Seth Holehouse:It's a good question, actually. And I because I've heard a few people, you know, Michael Yann, and Vandersteel, border agent JJ Carroll, they have talked like this. And it's a good question to ask, actually, because I'd like to I'd like to see actually where where they end up. You know, where these people
Speaker 2:They can't tell you. They can say they see people crossing the border with no belongings, which is again interesting. Nobody immigrates from country to country without bringing something. They just kinda show up. You see pictures of them.
Speaker 2:Hey. They got a cell phone and they have a jacket on, what have you. They don't look terribly dirty either, which is interesting. We're told they come from, you know, the staring gap and they they have this long arduous trip, whatever. You you think you pick up a lot of dirt and filth and no.
Speaker 2:They just kinda show up in a down jacket and a t shirt and a cell phone and go right across. The whole thing is is just not honestly, it's just not believable for a critical thinker.
Seth Holehouse:One of the question I did have for you going back to vaccines is liability. So we're talking about, okay, the had the COVID boom, the drop in uptake of the boosters, etc. Now then the uptake, you know, the increase in treatments, you know, cancer, myocarditis, etc, treatments, etc. But the big question that I have also is liability. I know that, you know, Reagan, you know, in 1986, you know, really kind of gave these vaccine companies pretty, you know, pretty solid wall of immunity.
Seth Holehouse:But considering where everything is at, and that you're seeing in certain countries that there's some some breakthroughs and people actually starting to kind of take these companies in pushing more criminal charges. Do you think that there's something or anything that could happen where these vaccine companies get opened up to lawsuits for people that, like I even my own family, know multiple people that have had heart attacks, you know, strokes, death, even the people I know that and now they know that it was caused, know, like healthy, healthy people that have now had massive blood clots, marathon running, you know, family members that have massive blood clots, they know it was come where it came from. So do you think that there will be a time when somehow these these, you know, big pharma companies get opened up legally? Because I could see that being the death blow? Because it's once one case goes through, I mean, what kind of class action lawsuit would there be for Pfizer's vaccines, for instance?
Speaker 2:Well, they have two layers of protection. Well, first is the 1986 Vaccine Injury Compensation Act, which basically said, listen, vaccines have unavoidable harms. And because of this, the companies are going to get sued out of existence unless they have liability protection. Every mother and father ought to take a look at the 1986 legislation that occurred under Reagan. Unavoidable harm.
Speaker 2:That's the reason why they needed liability. So listen, families getting their kids mandated to take a vaccine that has unavoidable harm and has liability protection. That's the first layer of protection they have. But they have another layer, is the PREP Act, which went into effect the February. The PREP Act says the COVID vaccines are military countermeasures.
Speaker 2:Remember, countermeasures of military term. The vaccines were brought forward by the Department of Defense and HHS. Again, the companies that make them are biodefense contractors. Companies never got these FDA licensed. To this day, the vaccines are government property like a military jeep or a military weapon.
Speaker 2:So there's two layers of the prep act says, listen. Anything that's a countermeasure is covered, meaning immunity from liability. Everything from a personal protective equipment to a vaccine to a blood test to remdesivir to, you you name it. Anything that's considered a countermeasure. No.
Speaker 2:No. The prep act says, but liability shields should fall if two criteria are fulfilled. The first is if there's fraud, that is the products have been misrepresented to people intentionally, and then malicious intent that it was fraudulent and presented to us to actually to cause harm. And that's the reason why this Texas lawsuit is so important because, know, this deceptive trade practices, there ought to be a lot that comes up with respect to fraud, not only just Pfizer, but Pfizer's main agents like Weber Shandwick. Weber Shandwick's the PR marketing firm for Pfizer Moderna.
Speaker 2:Weber Shandwick has an installed marketing unit in the CDC vaccine office in Atlanta. That's how incestuous this is. Rand Paul found out about it and wrote a letter. Turned out Walensky at the CDC had already paid Weber Shanduk fifty million dollars to cover people's salaries in an office so they can turn around and and market Pfizer and Moderna to the CDC. I was always wondering, why does the CDC intentionally promote Pfizer and Moderna, but they never promoted Novavax or Janssen?
Speaker 2:It's because of Weber Shamec. Weber Shamec had a corporate and still does a corporate vaccine program called Plan VX, where they would do consulting for big companies to help them get vaccine mandates and databases to check on vaccine status and all this other stuff. So, you know, recently Memorial Hermann, big hospital system down in Houston, they're at Texas Medical Center. They finally gave up their vaccine mandate. They forced vaccines on their employees for for three years.
Speaker 2:That means each employee is looking at probably eight shots. Thanks to Memorial Hermann. Memorial Hermann says, listen, we're dropping our vaccine mandate December 15 because of Senate Bill seven in Texas, which bans vaccine mandates. And if companies violate the ban, they have to pay a per occurrence penalty, which is pretty high. But then this and in the letter, the second sets a paragraph says, but we're convinced the vaccines were saved millions of lives and were necessary.
Speaker 2:It helped us keep our doors open. It was basically two paragraphs of propaganda. Memorial Hermann didn't need to do that. But the long arm of Texas law could say, listen. That's a deceptive trade practice.
Speaker 2:You don't put these falsehoods out there. It's not necessary to do that. You don't even say vaccines save millions of lives. They don't know that. No randomized trials or especially no supportive data at all.
Speaker 2:The vaccines have saved lives. There's a lot of data suggest the vaccine, you know, cost people their lives. So the Texas AG case is gonna be big. People want justice. People don't wanna take these shots anymore.
Speaker 2:Sadly, we have to have legislation to stop the mandates. These companies and, you know, got so enamored with the vaccine, they don't wanna drop it.
Seth Holehouse:Which is really it's it's just it's crazy to imagine. But hopefully, as you mentioned with Texas, that that becomes that sets some legal precedents for this because I think that I'm one of millions of people that just want to see justice that just want to see that the people that that that put this, you know, crime against humanity out there are brought to justice. So, McCullough, where can people find you? Where if you want to follow your work or support you or anything like that, where would you recommend people go for that?
Speaker 2:Well, it's important because, you know, I published the first treatment protocol to how to treat patients and did a lot of work with Doctor. Proctor here at McKinney showing that the protocols worked. So McCullough protocol, now we have McCullough base spike protein detoxification protocol. The first protocol, what to do if you've taken one of these shots or have long COVID and how do you get out of it? And so these are all available on my website, petermcullahmd.com.
Speaker 2:That'll take you everywhere. I'm on America Out Loud as you are McCullough Report every Saturday and Sunday, 2PM Eastern, then on the Apple iHeart Network after that. My book, Courage to Face COVID nineteen, five star bestseller on Amazon, censored off Amazon for twelve days for a bogus allegation by Amazon. We we prevailed and it's back up on Amazon. It's also at Barnes and Noble and bookstores all over the world.
Speaker 2:And my Substack, Courageous Discourse Substack, leading medical Substack now, all the abstracts, all the data that I quote is there. People can download the graphical abstracts, the original manuscripts. And, like you, I'm, you know, bold. I'm relentless, Seth. Until this crisis is over, it's still in the medical domain.
Speaker 2:It's gonna take doctors of medical authority to end this crisis. And that's exactly what I plan to do.
Seth Holehouse:Well, thank you for that, Doctor. McCullough. It's always nice having you on. I appreciate what you're doing for folks and just keep at it. Thank you so much for making time for us today.
Speaker 2:Thank you.