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Nick Loudon (00:01)
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the break room. ⁓ My name is Nick. I'm joined by Corey and Zach, my fellow homies. And I have an infection in my eye called the stye, so I didn't get in a fight. Although fighting is our topic of choice today. Do you guys like to fight?
Corey Haines (00:22)
Yes, excellent transition by the way. Great segue, 10 out of 10.
Zstvns (00:23)
Yeah, often. That
Nick Loudon (00:26)
Yeah, that
was completely unplanned, by the way.
Zstvns (00:27)
was great. That was a really good way to make it like, it's a stye, you know, not fighting. It's definitely not pink eye as well.
Nick Loudon (00:36)
Yes,
Corey Haines (00:36)
Sure, yeah.
Nick Loudon (00:37)
yeah,
yeah, it's not pink eye. It's definitely not. Okay, in terms of fighting, gentlemen, is there a certain species you guys like to fight the most?
Corey Haines (00:50)
Bros.
Zstvns (00:50)
I
mean... ⁓
Nick Loudon (00:51)
Bros, are they a separate species?
Corey Haines (00:54)
frat bros and
particularly frat bros who come in for a free week trial at my gym. ⁓ man, just something about them.
Zstvns (01:02)
I'm actually going to go with ⁓ like military grunts who, you know, come in for free trials and think they're really hot sheet, think they're hot shit, you know, come in with no, no combat experience really at all.
Corey Haines (01:10)
That's a challenge right there. Yeah.
Nick Loudon (01:18)
⁓ I really hope someone who's never listened to this is listening now, because they would be like, why are you just fighting people at the gym? They do Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and that is why their gym is a place of combat. ⁓ But today, I would prefer if we discussed ⁓ more broader species in terms of combat. So we are going to be making a tier list of animals that we think
Corey Haines (01:28)
Kya!
Nick Loudon (01:48)
we may or may not be able to beat in a fight. I actually have a tier list queued up and I will share it to you guys right now. You should be able to see my screen. Can you see this?
Zstvns (02:00)
Yes.
Corey Haines (02:01)
Yes, I love this.
Nick Loudon (02:01)
Okay, so
we have categories here. Category at the top is they win. That would be the animal. Category number two, they have the advantage. In the middle we have 50-50, you know, it's kind of a toss up. And then below that it's I have the advantage, but we'll just do the royal I, so it be all of us or humans in general, but we'll just do the three of us. And then I win, like guarantee, no shot, I win.
Zstvns (02:03)
my.
That's
not fair. We have to include the less than people in this. That's not fair.
Nick Loudon (02:30)
Me, me. Yeah, but like,
Corey Haines (02:34)
Ha
Nick Loudon (02:35)
if you even us out, like it's still like a, it's fine. We could just do the royal eye and have it be all of us, like humans in general, if you guys want. But I was thinking more like, like, you know, we could each kind of maybe give our, and then average it.
Corey Haines (02:38)
for a different caliber.
Zstvns (02:38)
Okay.
Okay, this is a lot of animals. Let's get going.
Nick Loudon (02:55)
Yeah,
we're gonna fly through, there's also some duplicates, so don't worry. But we will start with the first animal, which is the ostrich. I'm gonna put them in 50-50 until we decide. Can you beat an ostrich in a fight?
Corey Haines (03:10)
How would I even fight it? I don't even know. I would like choke its neck or something. I feel like its legs are pretty powerful.
Zstvns (03:15)
I feel like
legs are super powerful. Yeah. They're like, they're like, they're, they're the modern day velociraptor, Corey, to be fair.
Nick Loudon (03:22)
Mm-hmm.
Corey Haines (03:25)
Yeah, I mean, they can probably pack pretty hard too. I'm probably gonna go 50-50 on this one.
Zstvns (03:28)
Yeah.
Nick Loudon (03:31)
You think? I think it's 50-50, because if you get their neck in the right position, I think it's game over.
Zstvns (03:36)
Yeah, this is hands only, right? We're not allowed any.
Corey Haines (03:37)
Yeah.
Nick Loudon (03:39)
Well, ⁓
whatever the fight, you're not bringing a tool. It's ground combat.
Corey Haines (03:44)
Yeah, you can choke, can kick.
Zstvns (03:47)
Okay, if I pick up, I can pick up a stick though, right? Nearby, that's, leave that out, only, only hands.
Nick Loudon (03:51)
I think we'd leave that out.
Corey Haines (03:51)
plastic.
Nick Loudon (03:54)
I think you are in ⁓ a concrete 50 by 50 cell. A 50 by 50 concrete cell. But this person fights the death.
Corey Haines (03:58)
Are you that much more dangerous with a stick?
Zstvns (04:04)
Okay, okay.
50 by 50 concrete cell. I'm immediately grabbing that ostrich by the neck and throwing it down and holding it like in a, just a strangled position because its neck is so skinny. I could just, you know, hold it there and I'm going to kill that thing.
Nick Loudon (04:15)
Ha
just picturing this.
Corey Haines (04:20)
But maybe it's so skinny
that it's hard to hold. It's like holding an arm. You're gonna like arm bar its neck. That's not a bad idea actually.
Zstvns (04:25)
I have, I'm pretty good at grabbing
a very skinny thing with my hand. So like, you know, no worries. I could, could hold on for a couple of minutes.
Nick Loudon (04:29)
She is, okay. I just like the visual
Corey Haines (04:32)
We'll give them that one.
Nick Loudon (04:35)
of Zach and an ostrich in a cell, like with Zach wearing his like Zach uniform of like a black shirt and jeans and like running around after an ostrich is so good. Okay, we'll go 50. Do you want to say we have the advantage? I feel like, I feel, I feel as though it's more I have the advantage.
Zstvns (04:51)
No, I win. I win.
Nick Loudon (04:58)
Because Corey said 50-50. I feel like it's right here. You think you have the advantage?
Corey Haines (05:01)
You think so?
Yeah, okay, I could see like probably have an advantage. That's fair.
Nick Loudon (05:09)
I'm going leave it here. This feels right. Cause Zach is all the way and we're kind of in the middle.
Zstvns (05:13)
I am all the way in. I will kill an ostrich.
Nick Loudon (05:17)
Cobra.
Zstvns (05:19)
I have a shirt and I have my shoes, right? In this scenario, I'm not naked.
Nick Loudon (05:26)
You're really good.
Corey Haines (05:28)
We should make this more interesting and only do naked fights.
Nick Loudon (05:30)
You're
naked. Yeah, let's do it. Let's do naked fights. Yeah.
Zstvns (05:34)
Okay, naked against a king cobra?
Corey Haines (05:40)
changes everything.
Zstvns (05:41)
It does change everything man, because I mean if you have a shirt or just any kind of clothing you can, you know, hold it up and...
Nick Loudon (05:47)
you can bring your
wristwatch.
Zstvns (05:50)
my wristwatch.
Corey Haines (05:51)
⁓
Nick Loudon (05:51)
Yeah, you are completely naked minus a wristwatch. Not even a hat, no.
Zstvns (05:54)
Not even a hat. I'm
gonna get a hat. Do I have a sock? I can cover my yunk.
Nick Loudon (05:59)
No.
Yeah
Corey Haines (06:03)
Dang.
Zstvns (06:04)
I'm completely naked against this
snake.
They definitely haven't. Okay, well, hang on.
Nick Loudon (06:06)
Yeah
Corey Haines (06:08)
think they have the advantage,
to be honest.
Zstvns (06:11)
They have an advantage. We're both gonna die though. mutually assured destruction.
Nick Loudon (06:16)
Yeah, mutually assured destruction. I feel like...
Corey Haines (06:19)
I
feel like it's pretty hard to kill a snake with your bare hands.
Nick Loudon (06:22)
I say they have.
Zstvns (06:22)
You could,
dude, you could kill a snake with your bare hands. You'd still get bit, but you're not gonna die immediately from the bite. It's gonna hurt, but that venom's gonna take it. Not that quick. You killing a snake should take a minute, because you're gonna pick that thing up and you're just gonna grab its tail and just bash it in the ground until its shatters.
Corey Haines (06:24)
without getting bitten.
You're gonna die pretty quickly,
I see, I see. So
Nick Loudon (06:47)
If it bites
you, then let's say that we have the advantage. Yeah, let's do that. That sounds like good criteria. Okay, the alligator and or crocodile can't tell the difference.
Corey Haines (06:48)
if it's a matter of who wins first or who dies first, then they're gonna die first. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so. I think so.
Zstvns (06:55)
Yeah, that one.
No water?
Nick Loudon (07:05)
Uh-huh.
Zstvns (07:05)
We're in a concrete cell, right?
Concrete cell, definitely gonna win.
Nick Loudon (07:10)
Really?
Corey Haines (07:10)
You're going
to Hold on, wait. What are you going to do to a crocodile?
Zstvns (07:13)
Yeah, dude.
Nick Loudon (07:14)
But the context is like
you have to defeat it. It's not just like I don't get attacked like how do you kill the croc?
Zstvns (07:17)
Alligators.
You can hold their mounds down. Like their jaw opening muscles are very, very, very, very weak. You can hold them down with a finger.
Corey Haines (07:28)
And then what are gonna
do to it?
Zstvns (07:33)
repeatedly step on its skull until it dies.
Nick Loudon (07:37)
This guy. These are all going to be in the I win category every single one.
Corey Haines (07:41)
Dude, they
for sure have the advantage. If they even get your pinky finger, you're a dunzo.
Zstvns (07:49)
They do not have an advantage, in a concrete room.
Corey Haines (07:53)
Have you ever seen what a crocodile does to a human being?
Zstvns (07:56)
in the water.
Nick Loudon (07:57)
I
feel as though they...
Corey Haines (07:58)
No, outside of the water
too, they can still do the death roll. They will rip your arm out of your socket.
Nick Loudon (08:03)
I think that they have the advantage, let's go 50-50, just to please Zach. Just to please Zach, come on. We gotta keep going.
Zstvns (08:04)
And I
No way, no way, no freaking way. In a concrete room,
you could grab its tail and then swing it around and kill it. How big is this thing? Is it like, is it a nine foot one? Full size, okay. That might not work then.
Nick Loudon (08:19)
It's full sized.
Corey Haines (08:22)
Hold on.
Nick Loudon (08:23)
Let's leave
Corey Haines (08:23)
Yeah.
Nick Loudon (08:23)
it 50-50, because maybe your years of Crocodile Hunter ⁓ actually did something.
Corey Haines (08:27)
An adult alligator can
reach up to 15 feet and weigh over 500 pounds. Dude, there's no way you're doing anything to it. Yeah.
Nick Loudon (08:32)
⁓ let's go with let's go with they have the advantage
Zstvns (08:32)
That's a lot. Okay, you're not gonna be able to do that.
No, they don't have it. It's 50-50. We're on the ground.
Nick Loudon (08:41)
Okay, bunny. Bunny.
Corey Haines (08:41)
you're not doing any damage
to it.
Nick Loudon (08:44)
Can you kill a bunny?
Zstvns (08:46)
bunny like money python bunny
Nick Loudon (08:49)
this bunny. We win. Come on. It's just about catching it. Once you catch it, it's Hippopotamus. Yeah, there's a no world where any of us can subdue or destroy a hippopotamus.
Corey Haines (08:49)
⁓ yeah, right.
Zstvns (08:52)
Yeah, we went.
Corey Haines (08:52)
We went, ⁓
Zstvns (08:55)
Night Night Bunny.
Fucked. So dead.
Corey Haines (09:00)
They win, yeah.
can't even scratch it.
Zstvns (09:07)
That is the most
animal on the planet, actually.
Nick Loudon (09:10)
What about an art? This is like an Arctic fox. It kind of looks like or just a fox.
Zstvns (09:15)
Looks like a coyote. Okori's got a personal vendetta.
Corey Haines (09:17)
Looks like you're carried again.
Nick Loudon (09:18)
Coyotes
are skinnier than this. This is a fox. This is not a coyote. I've seen a lot of coyotes. This is 100 % a fox.
Corey Haines (09:20)
Give me a shot at coyote, I'm killing that thing.
Zstvns (09:25)
That's a fox?
Corey Haines (09:27)
Is that a fox?
Okay, even better.
Zstvns (09:29)
Foxes
are very, very small. are, they're maybe, maybe 35 pounds. Like we win. That's a, that's ends. I'd put that in the same category as a bunny. The only thing it's going to do is run away for a while.
Nick Loudon (09:43)
I'm pretty convinced of the same. think in a pack I might lose, but alone? GG. This...
Zstvns (09:49)
Packs? Yeah. That is, well,
Arctic foxes don't have packs. They're solitary animals.
Nick Loudon (09:55)
Guy mr.. National geographic over here, okay? This is a hyena. I think it's cut off What do we got here?
Zstvns (09:58)
I watched a lot of Jack Hanna when I was a kid. Spotted hyena, yeah.
Corey Haines (10:06)
Dude, they win.
Zstvns (10:06)
Is this one with a pack
or is this one okay, a loan in a cell? We win.
Nick Loudon (10:07)
No, they're alone in a cell with you.
Cory?
Corey Haines (10:13)
What are you talking about? I think hyenas have
Zstvns (10:15)
Asparded Hyena.
Corey Haines (10:17)
like the second or third highest, like what's it called? Pound per square. Yeah.
Zstvns (10:23)
Their jaw strength is, yeah, they have a huge,
like, that's really strong, but they're not that big.
Corey Haines (10:30)
they're about as big as a person. And I think that with...
Zstvns (10:33)
They're the size of a large
dog.
Nick Loudon (10:37)
You guys are just gonna be arguing about semantics.
Corey Haines (10:38)
a very large dog.
Hyenas can weigh between 90 and 190 pounds. Yeah, so it's about the size of a human.
Nick Loudon (10:45)
Dang.
Zstvns (10:47)
That's a huge discrepancy. That's weird.
Nick Loudon (10:49)
Yeah,
it's like 2X.
Corey Haines (10:50)
Yeah,
okay, let's say, yeah, it says the smaller ones are 120 pounds. Let's say that the average hyena is like 160. It's like a human being.
Personally, I think they have the advantage. It would be a really hard fight. So maybe it's not like a guarantee that they would win, but I think that we're not looking good here.
Nick Loudon (11:02)
I don't know.
Zstvns (11:15)
Bro, that thing runs at you, guillotine. Done. Just hold it right there.
Corey Haines (11:18)
I can't.
Zach thinks he can choke anything.
Zstvns (11:22)
choke them out.
You can choke pretty much anything.
Nick Loudon (11:28)
You could choke
anything, dude.
Corey Haines (11:31)
A fox maybe,
Zstvns (11:31)
Thank you.
Corey Haines (11:32)
but dude, a hyena? That is a big scary animal. It's... First of all, you're... You think that you're gonna guillotine a hyena and it's just going to bite your arm and then rip you to shreds.
Nick Loudon (11:34)
I am feeling like it's 50-50. I really think it depends on how big it is.
Zstvns (11:36)
Not afraid of a hyena. Nope.
Nick Loudon (11:47)
Here's what Zach is not considering the speed of said animals The Cobra is a great example and the hyena is another great example It's like we don't have any context for how quick these animals move So like will he even be able to get close to it without it like latching onto his arm? I think it's pretty unlikely
Zstvns (11:48)
You say that. What?
I mean, I've like wrestled with huge police dogs. I mean that it's, it's like, it's called muzzle fighting where you like, you know, they're pretending that you are someone they're going to apprehend, but yeah. And then you avoid it. They're not like, it's not that hard to anticipate where a dog is going to try and put its mouth unless it's trained to go like.
Nick Loudon (12:15)
under what circumstance? I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
Corey Haines (12:19)
still smaller.
Nick Loudon (12:25)
They bite you first.
Corey Haines (12:33)
Okay, I think this is
50-50 at best.
Zstvns (12:37)
No, we have the advantage. We're smarter and they're not that big. ⁓
Nick Loudon (12:37)
Yeah.
I
am driving this computer and it's 50-50. Duck.
Zstvns (12:46)
50-50. Obviously win, yeah. I mean, it could probably fly away for a long extended period of time, but assuming it has to down to the ground, yeah, you're gonna win.
Nick Loudon (12:47)
Okay, this is an obvious I win.
Corey Haines (12:50)
We win.
Nick Loudon (13:00)
I said
50 by 50, I didn't give you the third dimension, which is five feet here in a five foot tall room. No, yeah, I agree, we're gonna win.
Zstvns (13:10)
So we have to
crouch down. That changes things too.
Corey Haines (13:15)
Alright.
Nick Loudon (13:17)
Let's do bald eagle.
I'm not feeling too good about this.
Corey Haines (13:21)
I still think we win.
Zstvns (13:23)
We have the advantage
Corey Haines (13:23)
A bald eagle?
Zstvns (13:24)
at a minimum you have the advantage. feel like the, I would say that's definitely, I'm going to say I win for almost all these animals unless the ones that are substantially bigger. No, I'm, I'm, I'm combating you. I just said, I feel like I'm going to win against all of these. I would put it in the win category. Nick put it at 50 50.
Nick Loudon (13:33)
Okay.
Corey Haines (13:33)
I can't believe you feel
more confident about being a hyena than a bald eagle.
Nick Loudon (13:37)
Let's give him that.
Corey Haines (13:39)
you
Okay, yeah.
Nick Loudon (13:45)
I'm going to put them at 50-50 at default and then we'll move them. The bear.
Zstvns (13:48)
Okay, okay.
What kind of bear is that? I can't see.
Nick Loudon (13:52)
This looks like a grizzly
bear or a brown bear.
Corey Haines (13:54)
It's like a brown bear.
Zstvns (13:57)
the death, Brown Bear's gonna win.
Nick Loudon (13:59)
I think they win, period. I don't think there's any world where I subdue a bear.
Corey Haines (14:00)
They win. No chance.
Not even close.
Nick Loudon (14:06)
This looks like a, like a wombat. don't know what it looks like, what's a wombat? I don't know. I don't even know what they do.
Zstvns (14:06)
No, but you could like escape. Is that a capybara?
Corey Haines (14:12)
It is a copybara. Copybara, we win.
They have like two giant teeth, but that's about it.
Zstvns (14:19)
They're the largest, they're the largest rodent.
Nick Loudon (14:22)
They're a rodent? Oh yeah, we win. Okay, there's two of these. Rhinoceros.
Zstvns (14:24)
Yeah, they're a rodent and we definitely win.
Corey Haines (14:29)
Guillotine.
Nick Loudon (14:30)
Zach, still think you win?
Zstvns (14:32)
No,
no, no, no, no. But hear, hear me out on this one. In order for a rhino to be like rhinos move really, really slow, right?
Nick Loudon (14:42)
Yeah.
Corey Haines (14:43)
Have you seen the rhino run?
Zstvns (14:43)
Really slow.
I have seen a rhino run.
Nick Loudon (14:45)
but there's only 50
feet of space.
Zstvns (14:48)
There's 50 feet of space. Their turn radius is horrible. if you can, you know, run, no, I'm not, I'm not, Jiu-Jitsu is not the way with this rhino. The way is to tire it out. The way is to tire it out. Let it keep running, keep doing whatever it's going to do. And then you move side to side and let it keep trying to run itself. Like it could probably, it would probably smash into the wall before.
Corey Haines (14:53)
It's gonna get under its feet, put him in X guard, sweep right into guillotine.
Nick Loudon (14:56)
X-Guard.
Corey Haines (15:02)
you're going to punch it to death.
Nick Loudon (15:04)
hire it out.
Yeah, you gotta
set up a wall hit on this. You gotta set up a wall hit on this. Yeah, I think that they have the advantage, but there is a small chance where you get them to hit the wall and die. It's concrete, dude. It's concrete. No, no, I'm with you. Okay, where?
Zstvns (15:18)
Yeah, wall hit. Exactly. Yeah. See Nick, you're like a true video game strategist.
Corey Haines (15:22)
Mm-mm-mm-mm-mm.
Zstvns (15:27)
Mm-hmm.
Corey Haines (15:31)
You guys are so delusional.
Zstvns (15:31)
that one.
Corey Haines (15:36)
I've seen a rhino flip a car.
Zstvns (15:40)
Yeah, because
a car is like, it's not nimble, it can't get out of the way, but you can. If you watch, like, in order to evade a Rhino, you have to set it up like that, where it's gonna charge you and then you get out of the way, because it can't turn very quickly.
Corey Haines (15:58)
I think that in the time it would take you to get out of the way, it can turn its head that same distance. I'm pretty sure its head is the same length and weight as like a human being.
Zstvns (16:04)
No. No.
Nick Loudon (16:12)
Well, we got two votes for two votes for they had the advantage one vote for they win. So that's it. This is a seal.
Zstvns (16:12)
You just dive, just dive and duck out of the way.
Corey Haines (16:16)
Okay.
Good.
Mmm.
Nick Loudon (16:23)
out of the water in a concrete cell.
Zstvns (16:26)
Is it specifically a baby harp seal? Because...
Nick Loudon (16:29)
whatever this is. This seal. Could you beat this seal? Okay then yes. Cory, feel good? This looks like a buck. A deer with antlers.
Zstvns (16:33)
Yes.
Corey Haines (16:36)
Mm-hmm.
Zstvns (16:42)
Doe a deer? No, not a female deer, a male deer.
Nick Loudon (16:45)
This one's complicated.
Corey Haines (16:47)
⁓ That would be hard and messy, I'm still pretty confident that I have the advantage. It could land some pretty nasty kicks, that's for sure.
Zstvns (16:56)
Well if it charges you, I'd be more concerned about that thing charging me than a rhinoceros.
Corey Haines (17:01)
you
Nick Loudon (17:01)
Ha ha ha
Zstvns (17:05)
If it's a buck, right, with antlers? Yeah. So, I mean, that thing is nimble and if it's gonna come after you and it spears you with those antlers, then you've got a problem. You're not gonna dodge it like you would...
Nick Loudon (17:05)
That's what it looks like.
It would
be very scary to have that happen. Cory, where are you landing?
I am right here. I think that I do have the advantage, but that they, I'm not sure about winning it. Yeah. This looks like a black Panther or a, what are those called? The Jaguar. I don't know the difference. It's one of those two.
Corey Haines (17:29)
Yeah, I'm gonna go with I have the advantage. I'm pretty comfortable with that.
Zstvns (17:33)
I'll take that. Always.
Sex Panther.
Corey Haines (17:41)
Black Jaguar.
Zstvns (17:42)
Jaguar.
They're the same thing, Panthers are black.
⁓ how big are Panthers?
Nick Loudon (17:50)
I think it's basically impossible to win this. I'm pretty sure they went like, I think they're too quick. I think any of the large cats probably just win period.
Corey Haines (17:50)
pretty freaking big.
They win, yeah. Not getting out of that one.
Zstvns (18:05)
The large cat, those are quite a bit small though. said, like a lion, a lion will weigh between like four and 500 pounds, but jaguars are actually kind of small. They range from 120 to 210 pounds and leopards are actually even smaller. So it depends on the size of this thing. Cause I feel like anything that's lower than 150 pounds, I have zero.
zero issues saying that I will win.
Corey Haines (18:38)
you're not concerned about its teeth or its claws at all.
Zstvns (18:41)
Not if it's 150 pounds.
Nick Loudon (18:43)
or how fast it is. How is that your argument? Like he just like bites your neck and you're like, you're too small. Kill him. ⁓
Zstvns (18:45)
No.
Corey Haines (18:50)
Yeah, just
bite your stomach, just bite your leg and go through like all of your arteries.
Nick Loudon (18:54)
⁓
I am pretty convinced they have the win.
Zstvns (18:57)
It ⁓
Corey Haines (19:02)
what are you
Nick Loudon (19:03)
I
Corey Haines (19:03)
going to do to a jack or?
Zstvns (19:05)
the same, you can, Corey, can choke out any animal.
Corey Haines (19:07)
Getting...
Nick Loudon (19:08)
Are you enjoying it?
Corey Haines (19:10)
answer it everything's guillotine.
Nick Loudon (19:11)
Okay, let's keep going. Let's keep going. This is gonna take forever.
Zstvns (19:12)
Choke it out. Just freaking choke out that animal. I am legend status.
Corey Haines (19:14)
All right.
Zstvns (19:16)
They do not have an advantage, if anything, it's 50-50 at the worst.
Nick Loudon (19:18)
This looks like a baboon.
Corey Haines (19:20)
I am
legend, he choked out his own dying dog.
Nick Loudon (19:23)
Okay, shush, shush, stop. Baboon, what is this?
Corey Haines (19:25)
Okay.
That just looks like, just like a monkey. It looks like a smaller.
Zstvns (19:28)
Is that a mandrill?
Nick Loudon (19:29)
There's other monkeys in here, just...
We'll call it primate number one.
Zstvns (19:34)
can't see.
That's a... is that an orangutan?
Corey Haines (19:39)
Looks like a Gaboon or a lemur or something. I think that's a pretty small monkey. Can you zoom in? Just do your pinch. You can. There you go. Yeah, it's like a howler monkey or something.
Nick Loudon (19:43)
It looks kinda big.
I can't, I tried just now.
Zstvns (19:50)
There we go. That's like a,
yeah, yeah, that thing's tiny. 100 % win.
Corey Haines (19:57)
I'm gonna win that one.
Nick Loudon (20:00)
Okay, period I win.
Zstvns (20:02)
Period.
Nick Loudon (20:04)
giraffe.
Corey Haines (20:05)
guillotine look at his neck it's so exposed
Nick Loudon (20:08)
You
Zstvns (20:10)
Huge target. But I mean,
Corey Haines (20:11)
You
Zstvns (20:12)
but are giraffes really dangerous?
Nick Loudon (20:14)
How do you win? How do you win? That's what you need to find out is not
Zstvns (20:18)
I don't
know, that's a good question, but how does the giraffe ring?
Corey Haines (20:19)
Bro, I've seen it stomp
some lions. Yeah, it'll freaking stomp the crap out of you. Same way as a horse will.
Nick Loudon (20:23)
Like in this scenario,
the animal knows that it's a fight to the death. like you're just both trying to kill each other. given that motivation in the giraffe's head, go from there.
Zstvns (20:38)
50-50.
Nick Loudon (20:40)
How do you bring a giraffe down? Just imagine naked Zach with a watch clambering up a giraffe.
Corey Haines (20:40)
You
Zstvns (20:43)
I, some way, dude, I'm figure it out.
Corey Haines (20:48)
Asodogare, outside trip.
Easy, Uchi Mata, Soto Gari, look at all those legs. I could trip any one of them.
Zstvns (20:53)
Figure it out,
Nick Loudon (20:58)
I think they have the advantage.
Corey Haines (21:00)
I think they win.
Zstvns (21:00)
you're gonna figure it
out, something's gonna happen.
Nick Loudon (21:04)
Wolf.
Corey Haines (21:05)
wolf.
Zstvns (21:06)
Single wolf, I win.
Corey Haines (21:09)
God damn it.
I'm going with they win.
Nick Loudon (21:11)
Dude,
this guy's just trying to get clips, dude. Bro, this guy just wants clips.
Zstvns (21:13)
No way. Single wolf.
Corey Haines (21:16)
Dude,
Zstvns (21:17)
Single wolf!
Corey Haines (21:17)
is the male delusion. I think there was a study, have you guys seen that study where it's like, it was like 70 % of all men think that they could land a plane in like a crisis. And it was like 70 % of all men think they could fight off a shark.
Nick Loudon (21:27)
Yeah.
Zstvns (21:29)
No, I
don't
Nick Loudon (21:32)
Yeah, that's the craziest study ever.
Corey Haines (21:34)
this is the same
phenomenon happening.
Zstvns (21:35)
I do
not think that way about planes, but I would I could kill a wolf have you have you been near a wolf like a have you stood next to one and No, they are not
Nick Loudon (21:38)
PAY F-
Corey Haines (21:42)
Yeah, yeah, they're freaking scary.
Nick Loudon (21:45)
you
You were next to a tiny wolf.
Zstvns (21:51)
I was not next to Tiny Wolf, I was next to the ones that they have in Pine Valley.
Nick Loudon (21:56)
Haven't been there so I don't know I feel as though they would win so I'm gonna put it under they have the advantage because you guys are in complete opposite spectrums and I lean towards Cory's sorry, I Just like two of us are pretty realistic. I think and one of us is not ⁓ Penguin this is easy dude. This is an easy W. I think this one's a cheetah and this one's a leopard
Corey Haines (21:56)
Yeah, I'm scared of those.
Zstvns (22:11)
No, you're pessimistic. That's what's going to make you die.
Corey Haines (22:12)
Not naming names.
Zstvns (22:17)
I win.
Corey Haines (22:18)
I got that one.
Zstvns (22:25)
Cheetah.
Nick Loudon (22:27)
Zach, could you kill a cheetah?
Zstvns (22:28)
Yes.
Corey Haines (22:32)
I'm still going with they have the advantage. I think I have a better chance against a cheetah than a jaguar, personally, because I know that cheetah aren't as strong, but I still think that odds are against me.
Nick Loudon (22:39)
Yeah, I agree.
Zstvns (22:40)
Definitely.
Nick Loudon (22:43)
I
Yeah, I'll leave it 50-50 because I feel kind of the same way but we're but Zach is tipping the scales
Zstvns (22:51)
I like you have the... I feel
like you haven't... I feel like I would say you have the advantage on the cheetah. Cheetahs are really small.
Corey Haines (23:00)
Dude, what is small to you? don't understand. Like Remy is small to me. A cheetah is still an animal just as big as me and it has teeth and claws.
Zstvns (23:09)
No it's not.
You are double the size of a cheetah as far as weight goes. Yes you are!
Corey Haines (23:14)
No, I'm not. Yeah, maybe weight,
it's also pure muscle and it's anatomically built completely differently to kill something.
Nick Loudon (23:17)
Corey, you're 350 pounds.
Corey, you are 350 pounds. It's all in your butt. Everyone on the internet doesn't know.
Zstvns (23:26)
Corey, you're 200 pounds. Yes?
Corey Haines (23:30)
Yeah, I don't think that gives me a huge advantage.
Zstvns (23:32)
Okay, cheetahs are like the cap out at 110. They're not big.
Nick Loudon (23:38)
I think we go, have the advantage. Let's give Zach his due. Okay, let's go, I have the advantage. Is that fine?
Corey Haines (23:38)
That's pretty big, bigger than a dog and dogs.
Okay, I'll give
it, I'll do it for the cheetah, sure.
Nick Loudon (23:51)
What about the, I think it's a leopard.
Zstvns (23:52)
That's the same, well, okay, did we determine whether the one up top is a Jaguar? Because I think you actually have them mixed up. Leopards have really tiny spots and Jaguars have bigger spots.
Nick Loudon (23:58)
Yes.
So.
Corey Haines (24:04)
I think that one's the same. I don't think it matters. I think they have the advantage in that one.
Zstvns (24:05)
I think it's the same thing.
Corey Haines (24:10)
They're basically the same animals, so.
Zstvns (24:11)
It's the same animal, yeah.
Nick Loudon (24:13)
lion, male lion.
Zstvns (24:14)
They win. They
win.
Corey Haines (24:17)
Okay, thank God.
Nick Loudon (24:18)
Thank God. How about a moose,
Corey Haines (24:22)
Ooh.
Zstvns (24:23)
Moose are
pretty dangerous. I feel like that's a, and they're huge. Moose are like, sorry, ooze. I was gonna say elk, elk and moose. Elk and moose are like 1200 pounds. They're huge.
Nick Loudon (24:31)
Who's?
Corey Haines (24:36)
Yeah,
they win. Nothing I can do to that thing.
Nick Loudon (24:38)
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that there's ⁓
Zstvns (24:39)
At most, at most,
or sorry, at least they have an advantage.
Nick Loudon (24:43)
And they're like eight feet tall, they're huge. I think it's pretty unlikely that I destroy them. This is a bobcat or a mountain lion. They're basically the same. Let's go mountain lion. I think they win. I've seen a lot of videos of mountain lions attacking people and I think they win. It's pretty much done deal. They're so fast, dude. And like.
Zstvns (24:46)
Yeah, they're really big.
and antlers.
That's a mountain lion.
Nope.
Corey Haines (25:07)
Yep. Here's the
thing I think we're not accounting for too, is that we're talking about being in a 50 by 50 cage. Yes, there are cases where a human could survive because they're like too much trouble for the animal to kill. But in a like a dog fight scenario where only one animal or one living being is, is, is leaving. I think that the animal is going to win. Yeah. Like
Nick Loudon (25:29)
being.
I think the mountain lion leaves.
Zstvns (25:35)
I'm
nope. If that's, if that's a scenario, I'm going to kill that thing. I'm coming home to my baby. I'm going to kill that mountain lion. My bare hands.
Corey Haines (25:36)
There's no way.
Nick Loudon (25:40)
Dude, this guy has dad, dad energy.
Corey Haines (25:41)
How with what?
What are you going to use your hands?
Nick Loudon (25:47)
I
think the difference here is that I, in my brain, mountain lions are more trained for CQB and they're like in the little threads of the mountain and they're like, boom, getting animals and killing things really quickly. And I think they just win.
Zstvns (25:49)
I will bash its face in.
Nope. Kill it.
Corey Haines (26:06)
At least they have the advantage, I think.
Nick Loudon (26:06)
Corey is.
Cory, if you were making this, what would you put it up?
Zstvns (26:09)
Nope, I have the advantage. I win.
Corey Haines (26:14)
I would rather take my chances with a cheetah, personally. I think that...
Nick Loudon (26:19)
But what would
you rank it in?
Corey Haines (26:21)
they win, but I think that they have the advantage or 50-50 at best.
Nick Loudon (26:28)
I think they have the advantage.
Corey Haines (26:30)
It's
like, at the very least, 5149 to them.
Zstvns (26:34)
Well, I vote, I win. I'm gonna kill that thing.
Nick Loudon (26:37)
Okay, I'm gonna leave it 50-50 just for Zach. This looks like a mountain goat of sorts.
Zstvns (26:44)
Yeah.
Corey Haines (26:45)
Yeah.
forget what they're called, but I've seen those guys.
Zstvns (26:50)
I'd be less intimidated of that than I would a deer.
Nick Loudon (26:55)
And we're not on a mountain. I think...
Corey Haines (26:56)
Those horns, I don't know.
Zstvns (26:59)
It has horns,
but they're not like, it's not the same as a, know, they're, they're not as big as a, you know, like a buck that's below. And then their horns aren't as, like they're more meant for ramming things. So it's going to leave some bruise, I don't think it's going to impale you.
Nick Loudon (27:14)
I think I have the advantage.
Zstvns (27:17)
I'd say I win if I'm gonna kill a mountain lion, I'm gonna I can kill a freaking goat
Nick Loudon (27:20)
Zach is either like they win or I win there's no
Corey Haines (27:23)
You
Nick Loudon (27:24)
other
categories
Corey Haines (27:26)
I would go 50-50 on that
thing, but I think we're at satisfying.
Nick Loudon (27:30)
Gorilla
There's no chance you can beat a Gorilla Zac. This isn't, you're not Tarzan, dude.
Corey Haines (27:36)
Zach is thinking about it. He's thinking about it.
Zstvns (27:41)
Can we give ourselves the benefit of that and say they have the advantage? There's a chance. There's a chance.
Corey Haines (27:45)
There's no scenario
Nick Loudon (27:45)
What? Where is-
Corey Haines (27:47)
ever in any circumstance ever where they don't kill you.
Nick Loudon (27:49)
Dude, the gorilla knows it's in
a fight and is like, I'm gonna kill you.
Zstvns (27:52)
There's a chance,
there's a chance. Could happen.
Corey Haines (27:55)
A gorilla
Nick Loudon (27:55)
What?
What chance?
Corey Haines (27:56)
is basically a human, but five times bigger. There is nothing you can do to it.
Zstvns (28:01)
Not five times bigger.
Corey Haines (28:03)
A gorilla? A mountain gorilla.
Zstvns (28:06)
Five times, I think that's a little bit much.
Corey Haines (28:08)
Let's Google.
Nick Loudon (28:08)
I think
there is no world where this is not in, they win. Sorry Zach.
Zstvns (28:15)
I think 800
pound gorilla is a little bit of an exaggeration. They're... They are big, but...
Nick Loudon (28:19)
Dude, they're huge!
Corey Haines (28:21)
Okay, yeah,
they're between four to 600 pounds.
Zstvns (28:27)
Okay, that's a lot. So three times, they could be two to three times.
Nick Loudon (28:30)
And they're not like fat.
Corey Haines (28:32)
I think even if it was double, you're still screwed.
Zstvns (28:36)
They have the advantage. Move on. No.
Nick Loudon (28:38)
They win. This
Corey Haines (28:39)
They win.
Nick Loudon (28:41)
is like a snow leopard, I think.
Zstvns (28:43)
That is a
Corey Haines (28:43)
No,
Zstvns (28:43)
link.
Corey Haines (28:43)
no, that's a, yeah. Nick, you know animals at all? Have you ever seen one?
Nick Loudon (28:45)
Dude, you guys, are you, freaking animals? No, dude, I don't like animals.
podcast, Michael, cut that out.
Zstvns (28:51)
Bobcats?
Bobcats aren't that big. I demolish that thing, I win.
Nick Loudon (28:55)
Dude, it's a lynx, he said.
Zstvns (28:57)
They're the same thing, just different geographic regions.
Corey Haines (28:59)
Yeah, they're different.
Nick Loudon (29:02)
Cory, what do you think? They're pretty small. This looks like a vulture.
Corey Haines (29:03)
I I win, yeah.
It would be painful, but.
Zstvns (29:10)
That's
a condor, I think.
and I will beat the condor.
Corey Haines (29:17)
Yeah, I'm gonna beat the condor. The birds are gonna have a hard time.
Nick Loudon (29:21)
Sucked it. Panda.
Corey Haines (29:22)
I can't imagine.
Dude, this is the one where I'm like, I think I can win. Those things were just, they should have gone extinct a long time ago. I've seen them do way too many dumb things. I think I could take it.
Zstvns (29:25)
Like in Tropic Thunder.
Nick Loudon (29:34)
Dang.
Zstvns (29:37)
I
win, I win, I win. I'm kill that night night, Wa-Mei. I win. Ferocious, mean, but I win.
Nick Loudon (29:39)
All right, all right.
Raccoon.
I feel that dog.
Zstvns (29:52)
Rottweiler specifically.
Nick Loudon (29:54)
It doesn't, it's cut off so it looks like it.
Zstvns (29:55)
That's
a Rottweiler. I fear no dog. I will win.
Corey Haines (29:56)
Looks like it ready.
Nick Loudon (30:00)
I think I could kill basically any dog in a fight.
Corey Haines (30:04)
Yeah, I think so, if really came down to it.
Nick Loudon (30:08)
Yeah, I agree. ⁓ Buff Kangaroo number one.
Corey Haines (30:13)
I can't wait to hear what Zach has to say.
Nick Loudon (30:18)
Of course.
Cory thinks he wins.
Corey Haines (30:18)
Okay.
I'm just trying to think like where my mind always goes like practically ⁓ what would I do to it?
Nick Loudon (30:29)
You too.
Zstvns (30:30)
Get in.
Corey Haines (30:30)
I actually
think, because the way that they're built, you could, yeah, it's like a rear naked choke kind of deal. Still, I think they're incredibly strong. I think that I have the advantage. I know they have huge claws. That's my only worry.
Zstvns (30:33)
So like a human.
Nick Loudon (30:42)
I'm
He's so
jacked his face looks like a person
Zstvns (30:48)
They're not, but they're not.
They're not that big though.
Corey Haines (30:53)
That's, dude, you don't think anything is that big. They're pretty fricking big.
Zstvns (30:56)
No, that's not true.
I said the hippopotamus. Hippopotamus is huge and the lion and the moose. I'm not scared of a kangaroo. I win. I will beat that thing and I'm gonna say good night, boy. Instead of good day.
Corey Haines (31:03)
Australian kangaroo size.
A male kangaroo can stand
up to six feet six tall and weigh up to 200 pounds.
Nick Loudon (31:16)
I think that we have the advantage.
Corey Haines (31:18)
Damn
it.
Zstvns (31:18)
does not bother me whatsoever.
It can stand up all at once. I will kill that thing.
Nick Loudon (31:24)
We have video evidence of a guy fighting a kangaroo and it went okay. I mean the kangaroo ran away because there was somewhere to run away to but I think that there's at least a chance if not I have the advantage.
Zstvns (31:37)
I win. I'll kill that thing.
Corey Haines (31:37)
Yep, that one's, that's
fair.
Nick Loudon (31:39)
We can put both of these here. Shark.
Zstvns (31:42)
we're in a concrete room, we win. Because it dies. ⁓
Corey Haines (31:44)
Ha
Nick Loudon (31:48)
That is an interesting take here. How are you going to use your watch in this scenario?
Corey Haines (31:49)
Hmm.
Zstvns (31:54)
I'm gonna count
the way I'm gonna use my watch is I'm gonna count down the hours until it until it suffocates and dies concrete room we win
Nick Loudon (31:59)
Until it suffocates.
Corey Haines (32:02)
Yeah.
Nick Loudon (32:05)
That
one, this one makes it way worse to answer this. If you're in a...
Zstvns (32:09)
We win, we're in a concrete room, we win. Scenario's the same,
we win.
Corey Haines (32:14)
I hate to say so, I think he's right.
Nick Loudon (32:14)
Yeah. ⁓
It's crazy to put I win this like without context. This is a ridiculous placement like any other scenario where there's any body of water even like a small like four foot swimming pool. It's like it's game over like there's no world where we win.
Corey Haines (32:22)
Yeah, yeah.
Zstvns (32:33)
Well,
forefoot swimming pool, might actually, it has to be a certain height because otherwise they're not going to be able to move at all.
Corey Haines (32:41)
I think even like two feet of water is enough.
Nick Loudon (32:41)
Think they could kill me
Yeah enough to move with No, they have a dude they're so no, let's forget it we're moving on a bowl Dude they could spin around into yeah for sure they can
Zstvns (32:45)
I feel like two feet of water a human would win.
At the very least, but two feet of water, they can't move. They're too big.
Corey Haines (32:50)
not taking my chances.
I've seen them like
in really shallow water move a lot.
Nick Loudon (33:01)
Yeah. I think you wouldn't be able to get close enough.
Zstvns (33:01)
A great white? A full grown great white?
Corey Haines (33:04)
Yeah, well, I've seen a lot of videos of like,
yeah, people try to like get the shark back in the water and it's literally in like five inches of water and then it'll squirm like feet in seconds.
Zstvns (33:11)
Hmm.
Okay, alright. But we still won in this scenario. Bull, we die.
Nick Loudon (33:17)
⁓
Corey Haines (33:21)
Thank God.
Nick Loudon (33:23)
Yeah, I think that the bull destroys us. There's a bull that lives on this property and it's got out of its cage once and I fear for my life. Horse.
Zstvns (33:34)
I'm going to put that in the same category as the giraffe. They have the advantage then. Actually, no, I'd be more intimidated of the horse than I would a giraffe.
Corey Haines (33:38)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, if you...
Nick Loudon (33:46)
You think they win?
Zstvns (33:49)
Probably it's a big, like that it could stomp you and like overrun you get you strong.
Nick Loudon (33:56)
I'm
feeling like it's this, they definitely have the advantage, but there's a world where they get tripped up and I can like jump on its head.
Zstvns (34:04)
That's true. That could happen.
Nick Loudon (34:06)
Zach's like, Glimmer of Hope? I win. Move him to I win. Turkey.
Corey Haines (34:09)
Yeah, yeah.
Nick Loudon (34:12)
I win.
Corey Haines (34:13)
Yeah.
Zstvns (34:14)
Yeah.
Nick Loudon (34:15)
Gobble gobble, it's over. Other penguin, penguin two is what?
Zstvns (34:16)
Tiny, tiny, tiny, is this a tiny or penguin? That's a tinier penguin. If we beat that penguin too.
Corey Haines (34:16)
Here's another penguin.
Nick Loudon (34:23)
This chimp, I think we lose. I think they win.
Zstvns (34:25)
Chimps are mean.
Corey Haines (34:27)
that's up in Ciampa
or Bonobo.
Zstvns (34:29)
Yeah, and chimps are worse than gorillas from what I hear. They're way more vicious.
Nick Loudon (34:35)
I don't think we stand a chance. Just ditto.
Corey Haines (34:36)
Yeah, I'd rather be in the room with an alligator.
Zstvns (34:37)
But they
are not as big as the gorilla. They're not as big as the gorilla.
Corey Haines (34:44)
You're right, they're
Nick Loudon (34:44)
They're like
Corey Haines (34:45)
really small, super weak.
Nick Loudon (34:45)
so strong and quick,
Zstvns (34:47)
I'd put that
one as a 50-50, because they're smart enough to where they still play, and they're just mean.
Nick Loudon (34:57)
I was gonna put it in they win. I'm gonna put it in they have the advantage.
Corey Haines (34:59)
Dude, they win. Hands down.
Zstvns (35:01)
There's a world.
If the horse gets in that one, or sorry, we put a mountain lion. We're going to put a mountain lion over the chimp.
Corey Haines (35:12)
I think that the mountain lion should be advantage too. Dude, chimps have eaten people's faces off. They could...
Nick Loudon (35:12)
this.
Me too. You're the reason what's here. ⁓
Zstvns (35:19)
No.
Yeah, old
women at the zoo.
Corey Haines (35:26)
And they could probably break your rib cage by flicking their fingers.
Zstvns (35:33)
That's an exaggeration, Cory. Come on, come on, come on.
Nick Loudon (35:34)
That is, I mean, that's a guess too. Yeah.
Corey Haines (35:34)
I really don't think so.
Nick Loudon (35:37)
Okay. A gazelle or whatever this is.
Zstvns (35:40)
Win.
Gazelles are not big. I win.
Corey Haines (35:45)
I think when Yeah.
Nick Loudon (35:48)
Just quick. Elephant. Zach, I win.
Zstvns (35:52)
⁓ man. There's no world where an elephant loses. Yeah.
Nick Loudon (35:58)
is defeated by you. ⁓
Zstvns (36:03)
Borthog.
Nick Loudon (36:03)
Whatever. Yeah, warthog.
Zstvns (36:05)
I win.
Nick Loudon (36:07)
Cory, I think maybe I have the advantage.
Corey Haines (36:10)
Yeah, strictly mobility.
Nick Loudon (36:12)
You I win?
Zstvns (36:13)
Yeah.
Nick Loudon (36:16)
Pitbull, not the rapper.
Zstvns (36:17)
Yes. If I'm going to beat a Rottweiler,
I'm going to beat a Pitbull too.
Nick Loudon (36:23)
Mr. Worldwide.
Corey Haines (36:25)
think so.
Nick Loudon (36:26)
I think I would beat one too. I think I would get seriously injured and maybe die from bleeding out later. But I'm going to say that I win first.
Corey Haines (36:32)
Mm-hmm.
Zstvns (36:37)
And the other one was Tiger. Tiger is in the same category as Lion. Night-night.
Nick Loudon (36:41)
Dude you're supposed you were supposed to give me a grand finale where you fight for being able to destroy a tiger
Corey Haines (36:42)
Yeah, bye bye.
Zstvns (36:48)
Tigers are bigger
than lions. mean, look, okay.
Is there a world? Potentially? Maybe. The chances are very, very, very slim. Coming out against a tiger or a lion. Could it happen? Sure. But very, very unlikely.
Nick Loudon (37:08)
Well, I, Corey, Zach, think that you are, I think you think that some animals are weaker than they are.
Zstvns (37:19)
Yes.
Corey Haines (37:20)
weaker and smaller and less aggressive.
Nick Loudon (37:20)
What? Why is that?
Zstvns (37:24)
Because if you don't think that way, you're definitely going to lose.
Nick Loudon (37:28)
He's like, okay, but we are like, wasn't going off like the emotional factor of like getting back to my kid. You know, I'm just.
Zstvns (37:35)
Doesn't matter,
doesn't matter. I'm gonna kill that thing.
Nick Loudon (37:38)
Dude, that is crazy.
Okay.
Corey Haines (37:41)
Rhino really
got me. That one's my favorite.
Nick Loudon (37:45)
Okay, I will stop sharing this. ⁓ This is a great tier list. That was very fun. I'm glad that we did that. Took way longer than it was supposed to. Oops, I need to find one with less options. But any final words, any last arguments you want to make.
Corey Haines (37:59)
a little carried away there.
Zstvns (38:03)
If you don't think that you can outrun or kill whatever it is that's in your way, then you're definitely gonna lose.
Nick Loudon (38:11)
Cory, you're gonna lose.
Corey Haines (38:13)
Yes, yes I am. To a rhino, ⁓ every single time. One million out of one million times.
Nick Loudon (38:20)
Yeah, that's not what he said.
Zstvns (38:20)
So would you just not try?
Corey Haines (38:23)
No.
What I would try to do probably is, mean, see, this is one of the where it's hard. if it's a hypothetical 50 by 50 and one animal has to die or one thing has to die, there is just no scenario where I win. So it's not that I don't try, but even if it takes a week, I'm still going to lose.
Zstvns (38:48)
No belief, no belief, no faith.
Corey Haines (38:50)
You
Nick Loudon (38:53)
Okay, well, this has been The Break Room. Today we learned ⁓ about Zach's large amount of overconfidence and we will see you next time.