Our Mantra and What it Means to Hunt

The prey may be different, but the hunt is the same. In this episode, Joey and Drew discuss what it truly means to be a hunter, in both the literal and metaphorical sense. They go back to the basics and talk about the meaning behind the Few Will Hunt Mantra , “Let’s Hunt”, and how the hunt is different for each person. Drew shares how the mantra helped him through difficult times in his previous work.. Joey also talks about his experiences growing up hunting and how being alone in the forest makes him feel at peace. Tune in to discover who the actual prey is in your life. 

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Creators & Guests

Host

Drew Beech

Drew Beech is an entrepreneur and cofounder of Few Will Hunt. He spent several years in the sales and marketing industry, grossing over several million dollars in sales. But his love for the entrepreneurial journey and desire to escape the rate race started with his personal training business in college. Today, Drew leads the Few Will Hunt community alongside his cousin and cofounder, Joey in their mission to restore the dignity of hard work through the highest-quality American-made apparel.

Host

Joey Bowen

Joey Bowen is co-founder of Few Will Hunt.

What is The Few Will Hunt Show?

The official podcast of Few Will Hunt, the world’s largest community of hard workers and 100% Made in the USA apparel brand. We’re on a mission to restore the dignity of hard work and help others live The Rules of The Few to strengthen ourselves and strengthen society. No entitlement or excuses are allowed here.

Joey Bowen: 00:00

He talks about how he used to start his days, by writing down his hardest problems and then taking a long walk in the woods to solve them. And you always come back with an answer.

Drew Beech: 00:08

A lot of that's a lot of the the stoics and people that I felt like

Joey Bowen: 00:13

The Japanese with forest bathing?

Drew Beech: 00:15

Yeah. Everything's over, like a lot of things get solved by taking a long walk.

Joey Bowen: 00:18

By by connecting with

Drew Beech: 00:20

Nature.

Joey Bowen: 00:20

What, yeah, what what birthed us. You know what I mean? Like, the physical world. You know? Welcome to the Fuel Hunt Show.

Joey Bowen: 00:29

What's going on, Eagles? Welcome to the fuel hunt show. My name is Joey. I'm here joined by my cousin and cofounder, Drew. How are you feeling today?

Drew Beech: 00:37

I'm feeling great. Everyday's a good day. I feel

Joey Bowen: 00:39

like it's been a little while since we've we've done it.

Drew Beech: 00:42

I was just the 2 of us. Feels weird to sit in this seat. Yeah. We should do more like this.

Joey Bowen: 00:46

I know. We should. We forgot our roots.

Drew Beech: 00:49

I know. We kinda the the the guest episodes are just, I agree. I love I'm gonna use your word. I love the energy. Electric.

Drew Beech: 00:58

Yes.

Joey Bowen: 00:58

I'm gonna use your word electric.

Drew Beech: 01:00

I find myself getting lost in that sea. At the time, I, like, I blink, and it's, like, the episode's over.

Joey Bowen: 01:05

Yep. Yep. And the community loves the guest

Drew Beech: 01:07

episode. Yeah.

Joey Bowen: 01:08

I guess that that should tell us something.

Drew Beech: 01:11

True. Yeah. But here here we are. Like, oh, we should we should be freaking

Joey Bowen: 01:14

we should

Drew Beech: 01:15

flap our drums more. Yeah.

Joey Bowen: 01:16

We should do more. We should in any event, it feels good, to be on the other side of the camera and the microphone with with just you. Today, I wanted to go back to the beginning or back to basics, really, and talk about what it means to be a hunter. We close the show, every show, and we say, let's hunt. Right?

Joey Bowen: 01:39

We refer to ourselves as hunters, as eagles. Right? Mhmm. Prey seekers. So I wanted to get into what that means a little bit because it's early on in the journey.

Joey Bowen: 01:50

It was misunderstood. People were like, what do you mean? Fuel hunt? What does that even mean? You know, now things are different.

Drew Beech: 01:56

Yeah.

Joey Bowen: 01:57

But I feel like it'd be a cool thing to kick around, and a lot of value will come

Drew Beech: 02:01

out of it. Will say that the people that don't and I say this a lot, but the people that don't understand what few will hunt means, if they don't hear that and think, oh, I get that, then they're just not one of us. Like, you don't have to explain it to someone that gets it.

Joey Bowen: 02:13

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody that's that's about it. You don't have to explain it to it.

Joey Bowen: 02:16

It's living that's living

Drew Beech: 02:18

the life.

Joey Bowen: 02:18

You don't you don't have to explain it to. Also, hunting season's coming up. So that was another idea that the topic came to mind. So funny you asked that. So since we started fuel hunt, I've basically swapped hunting.

Joey Bowen: 02:37

I've swapped the literal hunt for the metaphorical hunt, so with how insanely busy we are And, and you're Growing the community

Drew Beech: 02:49

And your jujitsu schedule.

Joey Bowen: 02:50

And my jujitsu schedule, sacrifices had to be made Mhmm. Which pains me because it wasn't just about hunting. It was about spending time, you know, with my father and uncles and my cousins and things like that. But, yeah. So I've haven't done much hunting at all, for the past 6 years.

Joey Bowen: 03:07

I've went out every season, but some seasons, it's been one sit.

Drew Beech: 03:11

Yeah.

Joey Bowen: 03:11

You know, I've went out for a long sit. I went out for 6 hours.

Drew Beech: 03:14

At your peak, how many?

Joey Bowen: 03:16

Oh, I was going every other weekend during hunting season. Hunting season's short. Well, my hunting season, I'm a bowhunter. So in Pennsylvania, it's basically, like, last weekend of September to the 1st weekend of November. So you you really only have that window.

Joey Bowen: 03:32

What's that, like, 6 weeks or whatever? Yeah. Oh, okay. So it's it's kinda short. So even when I was going every other weekend, it wasn't wasn't a lot.

Joey Bowen: 03:39

But multiple days,

Drew Beech: 03:40

like days. Right? Yeah. Yeah.

Joey Bowen: 03:42

Yeah. Well, you can hunt every day, but Sunday.

Drew Beech: 03:44

Oh, you can hunt on Sundays?

Joey Bowen: 03:46

No. So I would try to get out Friday after work or whatever, and then, like, make Friday evening hunt, because you you have to stop hunting, once you lose light, right, after the golden hour. And then I, you know, put in a full set on Saturday. So, this season, I I hope to get out, man. I hope to get out, because I love it.

Drew Beech: 04:07

I love

Joey Bowen: 04:08

it out there. You know?

Drew Beech: 04:12

I just it's funny, like the wheels turning. When when we started this and you said the our mantra to me the first time, I remember being, like, literally, like, so gassed up when I heard it the first time. And I was like and I I had my hunting had my hunting license, obviously, expired. Never actually went hunting. Mhmm.

Drew Beech: 04:35

But when you had said to me the first time, I like, it literally hit me so hard. And I was like, I fucking get that because I was, at the time, in a job where I felt as though I was working a lot harder than a lot of other people and was being held to the same standard. So the fact that those words and our mantra hits me so hard, I can only imagine how I believe that is the the effect it has on everyone else.

Joey Bowen: 05:03

Mhmm.

Drew Beech: 05:04

But hunting itself has always been confusing to me.

Joey Bowen: 05:11

Why?

Drew Beech: 05:12

Like, I was just saying actually for the show that in your hunt, as far as chasing

Joey Bowen: 05:19

Literal hunt.

Drew Beech: 05:20

Well, in your hunt, your metaphorical

Joey Bowen: 05:22

hunt. My metaphorical hunt. Yes. Yes.

Drew Beech: 05:23

In our anyone's metaphorical hunt.

Joey Bowen: 05:25

You're And when you say the metaphorical hunt, you mean chasing your goals, setting these goals, working hard day in, day out, living the rules of the few, like, all

Drew Beech: 05:33

that stuff. Through to attain your true purpose or main goal.

Joey Bowen: 05:39

Dream life,

Drew Beech: 05:39

true

Joey Bowen: 05:40

purpose, whatever. Yep.

Drew Beech: 05:41

So there is clear reward that can't be had unless you unless you hunt.

Joey Bowen: 05:48

Yeah.

Drew Beech: 05:50

For the the sport of hunt the literal animal thing. Like, you can go grab some venison at the supermarket. Like like Okay. I just don't see other than the the time spent with your with your dad, like, that's obviously irreplaceable. But I'm sure you went out by yourself before.

Joey Bowen: 06:12

Oh, yeah. Fun sign.

Drew Beech: 06:13

So you went I mean, and sat You

Joey Bowen: 06:15

actually go out you actually go out by yourself every single day.

Drew Beech: 06:18

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's I mean,

Joey Bowen: 06:19

if you're in a blind with somebody or whatever, but it's you're out there by yourself.

Drew Beech: 06:22

The quality time is just a couple hours you get at the cab. Back at

Joey Bowen: 06:25

the cab. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Dinner, breakfast

Drew Beech: 06:27

It's a

Joey Bowen: 06:27

very minimal. Yeah.

Drew Beech: 06:28

It's been probably out to world. Incredible. The amount of the amount of suffering and effort that goes into it just doesn't seem to match the reward that comes along with it. Like, I forget what band and I were talking about in this car, how it came up. But I was like, you have to literally you have to kill you have to sit and wait.

Drew Beech: 06:49

Kill this thing, then undress it yourself and and

Joey Bowen: 06:52

Undress it? It

Drew Beech: 06:53

was a girl.

Joey Bowen: 06:54

Field dress? Field dress. Look, bro. You're undressing deer, bro. Like,

Drew Beech: 06:58

you're honest.

Joey Bowen: 06:59

I don't want that.

Drew Beech: 06:59

And then you gotta and then you gotta load this thing back to wherever you came wherever you came from.

Joey Bowen: 07:04

Yeah. But hard work makes you happy, man.

Drew Beech: 07:06

Hard work does make us happy, but I don't see any any any upside.

Joey Bowen: 07:10

It's that it's that age old question, right, of would you rather someone give you a $1,000,000, or would you rather work for the $1,000,000?

Drew Beech: 07:20

Correct. And I agree. Like, if if that was our way of sustaining our lives, like, I would be I would be a hunter, obviously.

Joey Bowen: 07:29

But Oh, yeah. I see what you're saying.

Drew Beech: 07:30

You're saying

Joey Bowen: 07:30

it's, like, non necessity.

Drew Beech: 07:32

300. It's the other days of the year you're eating the meat everyone else gets. But for these 5 days, you decide to suffer for it.

Joey Bowen: 07:38

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's not much suffering. I mean, you know, you can go on, like, long range hunts and things like that. Like, for me yeah.

Joey Bowen: 07:44

I mean, you're you're basically rocking. You're rocking up a mountain to get to your spot, and then you're sitting in solitude. But for me, that's the only time I really get to spend by myself.

Drew Beech: 07:53

Yeah.

Joey Bowen: 07:54

Honestly, like, those moments If

Drew Beech: 07:56

that's your I I I love time in in by myself.

Joey Bowen: 07:59

And plus you're in the woods. Like, you're you're in nature.

Drew Beech: 08:01

My sometimes I'll meditate for up to an hour a day. Like, legit. Like, I love the time, spend my thoughts, just just me. Like, there's nowhere to run. Yeah.

Drew Beech: 08:10

But I thought about doing one of those. You ever hear these, darkness retreats? Yeah. Like, where you just go in, like, a cabin and it's fucking I

Joey Bowen: 08:17

think uncle Mark's done one of those. No way. I think so. Yeah. Yeah?

Joey Bowen: 08:21

He did, like, one, you know, no electronics. I think it was, it might have been a dark I'm not sure. Well, this I know I did when I heard of it.

Drew Beech: 08:30

It was like mentorship. You go to a cabin, and they give you your meal. You're in the darkness for, like, 48 hours.

Joey Bowen: 08:37

Yeah.

Drew Beech: 08:38

Like, literally just pure darkness.

Joey Bowen: 08:40

Yep. They can do it.

Drew Beech: 08:41

Well, I thought about doing one of those, like, eventually.

Joey Bowen: 08:44

I mean, sitting in a tree stand so like I said, I'm a bow hunter. Right? So, like, I put my back on, you know, I essentially rock, quote, unquote, to to the stand with my bow. I climb up the tree, whether I have a climber or there's climbing sticks, whatever, I climb a tree. And you're sitting on a you know, I know nowadays they probably have the community may roast me.

Joey Bowen: 09:04

I'm sure nowadays they have, like, super comfortable tree stands. Like, we're rocking, like, the old stuff, man. It's like a metal tennis racket Yeah. You know, and, like, a a rickety seat. You know?

Joey Bowen: 09:15

And you're sitting there. Like, there's nowhere to go. You're not in darkness, but there's really nowhere to go. And you can't be up there fidgeting, standing, not moving around there because you're you have to be silent. You have to be one with the woods.

Joey Bowen: 09:26

So you

Drew Beech: 09:26

won't get anything?

Joey Bowen: 09:27

Yeah. Yeah. Nothing coming your way. So it's kind of, like, almost the same thing. Like, it's I'm in the I'm in nature.

Joey Bowen: 09:36

I'm in the woods. I'm forest bathing, and I'm alone with my thoughts, and I can't go anywhere. You know what I mean? And I'm certainly not gonna choose to come out of the stand and go back to the cabin. Why?

Joey Bowen: 09:45

So our entire family can be like, oh, you sat an hour. Yeah.

Drew Beech: 09:48

You know what I mean?

Joey Bowen: 09:49

Like, so there's that there's that, that too. But for me, it's like it's a it's a spiritual experience. Like, it's kinda like like grounding. You go out, you put your feet on the ground, you feel the earth, you become one with the earth, right, for all sorts of it's the same type of thing. Like, if there was no hunting, there'd be no us.

Drew Beech: 10:10

I agree with that.

Joey Bowen: 10:11

You know what I'm saying? I agree

Drew Beech: 10:12

with that.

Joey Bowen: 10:12

I just Us meaning, like, yes, of course, now it's here at Philadelphia.

Drew Beech: 10:17

That's not the case. So

Joey Bowen: 10:19

I mean, mass market meat, I don't wanna get into the whole thing, but, like, mass market meat, bro.

Drew Beech: 10:23

Local yeah. I got local butcher. Yeah. I got a

Joey Bowen: 10:24

local butcher. Meat, dude? Come on now.

Drew Beech: 10:26

Oh, yeah. We're always going grass fed local butcher, obviously.

Joey Bowen: 10:29

Yes. Obviously. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Joey Bowen: 10:32

So you're you're also I would never one of the things that I said, like, really early on my in my career was I would never ask somebody to do something that I wouldn't do myself. Mhmm. You know? And that's something that I try to live by. I respect that.

Joey Bowen: 10:47

And that falls in line here. And there's no listen. I can go get venison from my local butcher, and it's the same PA whitetail. You know, it's probably butchered better than I did. You know, everything.

Joey Bowen: 10:59

But nothing nourishes you. I was gonna say taste, but, like, nothing nourishes me like a deer that I've harvested personally does.

Drew Beech: 11:08

That's actually a fair point. Like, these points you're making are great. Like, especially you have a spiritual experience. There is no doubt.

Joey Bowen: 11:16

Taking. Like There

Drew Beech: 11:17

is no doubt that if you send a tree stamp, how long is it usually 6 to 8 hours?

Joey Bowen: 11:20

Well, you know, my family, you could ask around, do you ask my pop? He's

Drew Beech: 11:23

so

Joey Bowen: 11:24

sits can be long. I mean, you'd be out there all day. Pack a sandwich and be out there

Drew Beech: 11:28

all day.

Joey Bowen: 11:28

Yeah. Usually, we do a morning sit and an afternoon sit, and it's a couple hours, man. 4 or 5 hours.

Drew Beech: 11:33

Like, sitting there alone, no phone, no nothing, just, like, thinking and watching?

Joey Bowen: 11:38

That's the best part. Like, a lot of the tree stands that we have where I where I am in, outside of Bloomsburg, upstate Pennsylvania, I have no service.

Drew Beech: 11:48

Yeah.

Joey Bowen: 11:49

You know? So I can't even do anything.

Drew Beech: 11:51

Yeah. I wouldn't even take my phone.

Joey Bowen: 11:52

Yeah. I can't.

Drew Beech: 11:53

That's why

Joey Bowen: 11:54

it's We take them that we used to take, walkie talkies because you fall out of a a tree, like, things can't bear.

Drew Beech: 11:59

You know

Joey Bowen: 12:00

what I mean? Like, things can happen. So we used to have walkie talkies, but now with the phones,

Drew Beech: 12:04

it's like I mean

Joey Bowen: 12:05

way, Brian.

Drew Beech: 12:05

That's like with, jiu jitsu. Like, I see people take them throwing on the mat. So I don't even No. My my bag. My bag when I get, like, when I'm in the

Joey Bowen: 12:12

locker. Have much more jujitsu content for my personal for my personal page if I took my photo, man.

Drew Beech: 12:18

It's like it's like that's my time to just be one of my thoughts and just want and be present.

Joey Bowen: 12:23

Nothing the I will say, like, you're in the tree stand. Like, you're sitting still. It's cold. Sometimes it's raining. Sometimes it's snowing.

Joey Bowen: 12:32

You know, you're you're you're literally sitting like this, and you're holding the bone. It's you can start to, like, cramp up. You can start to, you know, it's uncomfortable. Mhmm. Sometimes it's not super comfortable.

Joey Bowen: 12:47

Now are there beautiful days in late September where you're out there and you're in, like, a camo t shirt?

Drew Beech: 12:52

Yeah. You

Joey Bowen: 12:52

know, your scent controls on point, but you have low low layers on. Yes. But what I will say is the moment that you see so I I only hunt deer. Right? Turkeys sometime, but just deer.

Joey Bowen: 13:06

The moment you see the animal come in into your shooting lanes and when you're with a bow, it's up close and personal. Like, some dudes are shooting shooting tears 70 yards out or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Joey Bowen: 13:16

Like, where we hunt, like, a long shot is 30 yards. Oh. So it's up close and personal, bro. You know what I mean? When you the moment you see the animal come into your shooting lanes, it's like jujitsu.

Joey Bowen: 13:27

Like, you're you're all the other noise, silence.

Drew Beech: 13:32

Yes. Like, I'm not

Joey Bowen: 13:33

You have one thought. Like, you're hard pressed. Mission. Yes. Exactly.

Joey Bowen: 13:36

So I can liken it to jujitsu in that aspect. Just jujitsu, it's a prolonged period of time. Whereas, when you're hunting and don't get me wrong, the animal could be milling around and stuff like that, but it's shorter amount of time.

Drew Beech: 13:50

It's like slows down. It's like

Joey Bowen: 13:52

Yeah. Well, that's a crazy like, you're out there with a bunch of squirrels,

Drew Beech: 13:55

man. Yeah.

Joey Bowen: 13:56

So the whole time, while you hear it, like, any hunter will tell you, like, squirrels and chipmunks, man. Like, they're jumping around leaves, and you're like, it's deer. It's deer. It's deer. When the deer come through, silent, man.

Joey Bowen: 14:08

Bro, they're so wary. So silent. Yeah. You know, move through it, which, again, like, adds to the experience. You have to work to take it.

Drew Beech: 14:17

There's no

Joey Bowen: 14:18

handouts. You know, you need to work. You need really work to you need to really work to take or give to give. You know? It's all about Have I changed your mind or what?

Drew Beech: 14:28

I mean You're

Joey Bowen: 14:29

gonna go hunt with me?

Drew Beech: 14:30

No. I mean, that well, I mean, I could bow. I I have to get experience for, like You can go How long would it take to get proficient with a bow?

Joey Bowen: 14:38

So for me, I'll I'll toot my own horn often too, but, like, I'm a good shot, and I've been a good shot.

Drew Beech: 14:43

It looks intense, dude. Like, you watch, like, Cameron Haynes on and do it. Like, it looks like a lot of work. Like, there's a lot of moving parts

Joey Bowen: 14:49

to the rest. Bro, it's reps. I mean, you're shooting a compound bow. Like, you can get the hang of it in no time. You know?

Joey Bowen: 14:54

But the thing is you need to be responsible. Like, if you're you don't wanna be what we call Wally Wounder. Like, the guy out there that's really not a great shot, and he's just wounded all these animals.

Drew Beech: 15:02

You run that race with the with the bow too because it's not as easy.

Joey Bowen: 15:06

Dude, you gotta be dialed in. You gotta be dialed in. The arrow, the broadheads, or the mechanicals, whatever you're shooting need to be sharp. Like, it needs to be a quick efficient kill. Like, you don't want an animal suffering.

Drew Beech: 15:16

Interesting side note. A friend of mine, Jitsu, is like, he doesn't do he doesn't hunt at all. Mhmm. But his son, like, for for some reason, like, loves hunting. Like, literally

Joey Bowen: 15:25

That's cool.

Drew Beech: 15:25

Just, like, YouTubed it, figured it out, watched all the stuff, then, like, now he goes hunting all the time. Yeah. He's, like, a 13 year old kid.

Joey Bowen: 15:32

Yeah. It's it's it's peaceful. I know I've said that to people before, and they're like, oh my god. You're going out there, and you're, like, killing an animal. And I'm like, look.

Joey Bowen: 15:40

I'm an animal lover too. But, like, these people also eat chicken and beef. So it's, like, okay.

Drew Beech: 15:47

Life. Yeah. I mean, the like, unfortunately, like, there are people, like, it is what it is.

Joey Bowen: 15:52

Yeah. There

Drew Beech: 15:53

are things on the other end.

Joey Bowen: 15:54

Yeah. It's a peaceful it's a peaceful experience. So I can understand. Maybe he's found some of that peace. Yeah.

Joey Bowen: 15:59

Plus being in the woods, man. Like, being in the woods is great.

Drew Beech: 16:02

I agree.

Joey Bowen: 16:03

As a as a city kid, you know, I was always fortunate enough that my dad took us up the mountains, when he could, when he wasn't working.

Drew Beech: 16:09

Yeah.

Joey Bowen: 16:10

But as a city kid, we have, like, Fairmount Park. Like, we have Penny Pack Park. We have

Drew Beech: 16:14

Penny Pack.

Joey Bowen: 16:15

You know? I

Drew Beech: 16:15

have a home park. Nice I mean, for

Joey Bowen: 16:19

William Penn did it.

Drew Beech: 16:20

Philadelphia did it. William

Joey Bowen: 16:21

Penn did it right, bro. You know what I mean?

Drew Beech: 16:23

Like Like, it's a pretty nice, forest area.

Joey Bowen: 16:27

Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. So, like, growing up, I I spent a lot of time in the woods, and it's it's peaceful, you know, and nature bathing or forest bathing. You know, we when we read that book, early on in our journeys, what was that Trevor Blake book, 3 Simple Steps or Yep.

Joey Bowen: 16:43

Secrets to a Successful Startup or whatever, both books we we recommend by Trevor Blake. He talks about how he used to start his days, by writing down his hardest problems and then taking a long walk in the woods to solve them.

Drew Beech: 16:56

And he

Joey Bowen: 16:56

always come back with an answer.

Drew Beech: 16:58

A lot of that's a lot of the the stoics and people that I felt, like

Joey Bowen: 17:02

The Japanese with forest bathing.

Drew Beech: 17:04

Yep. Everything's over, like a lot of things get solved by digging a long wall.

Joey Bowen: 17:08

By by connecting with

Drew Beech: 17:09

Nature.

Joey Bowen: 17:10

What yeah. What what birthed us. You know what I mean? Like, the physical world. You know?

Drew Beech: 17:14

That's why I tell you to get out of the city with me. I mean, nice.

Joey Bowen: 17:17

Well, I got a cabin, bro, so I could just drive to

Drew Beech: 17:19

a cabin. I could just

Joey Bowen: 17:20

drive to a cabin. My thing is birthday. My thing is, you know, I've got I've got a few goals in life. Right? But, like, a personal goal is I just wanna have a a foothold in the city, in the mountains, and at the beach.

Joey Bowen: 17:33

And the beach hasn't happened yet,

Drew Beech: 17:34

but the city

Joey Bowen: 17:35

and the mountains

Drew Beech: 17:36

One day. One day soon. One day

Joey Bowen: 17:37

soon. But the, city and the mountains have happened. So

Drew Beech: 17:41

And do you plan on do you so just this is personal question, but you put on staying in Philadelphia till your your last trip?

Joey Bowen: 17:50

Stretcher. You saw the email I wrote to the community? Damn. Yeah. That's the running joke.

Joey Bowen: 17:54

Like, I'm taking out the stretcher. No. Uh-uh. No. I've been through so much messed up shit in the city, man.

Joey Bowen: 18:00

Like, I've that would never leave. Damn. No. Never leave.

Drew Beech: 18:06

So all these jokes I knew about getting yeah. Like, I I thought I was gonna get a chance.

Joey Bowen: 18:09

No. You're not chipping away at it at all. If anything, it's having the opposite effect it's like making me dig my heels and what no I love the city man I love the city but I also love the mountains and I love the beach like I just love it all together you know what I mean you know So hopefully, I change your mind about, about hunting. And I'll still you know what? Even if I didn't change your mind, I'll still share some of the venison with you for Oh,

Drew Beech: 18:31

come on when you move to

Joey Bowen: 18:32

the boat. Okay. Alright. Oh, well, now you're up in the ante, dude. You're up in you're up in the ante.

Drew Beech: 18:38

No. I mean, I'm definitely I'm definitely interested in that. I'm not not

Joey Bowen: 18:41

You're like you're like primal, bro. You're like one with nature, like tree hugger type, dude. Well, that's probably not the best. That's probably not the best one.

Drew Beech: 18:51

I I am a hippie in in ways. Yeah. But I just never I don't know if

Joey Bowen: 18:55

there's many hippies that hunt though. It's probably better

Drew Beech: 18:58

I'm I'm a

Joey Bowen: 18:58

better nature lover turn.

Drew Beech: 19:00

I feel like I'm a a definitely a, interesting individual where I do I can I do connect multiple different walks of life?

Joey Bowen: 19:10

Same. On the same way.

Drew Beech: 19:11

Yeah. Like, purpose that we're most done in people.

Joey Bowen: 19:14

It's funny how we ended up starting a community that does the same.

Drew Beech: 19:17

So yeah. Like, I I like to ground my feet in the grass against sunlight, and I also like to I would also

Joey Bowen: 19:22

Shop for

Drew Beech: 19:23

your meat? I would also like to kill a

Joey Bowen: 19:24

deer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got you.

Joey Bowen: 19:26

I got you. I got you, man. I got you. Well, we we this turned into a little bit of a hunting discourse. So for for those that, for the Eagles listening and watching that, that hunt, don't roast me because I'm I'm an amateur.

Joey Bowen: 19:41

For those that don't, come hunt. You know? The whole

Drew Beech: 19:44

thing. You're an you would consider yourself an amateur?

Joey Bowen: 19:46

I would consider myself an amateur because

Drew Beech: 19:48

Oh, wow.

Joey Bowen: 19:48

I mean, I've been hunting since my in my I've been hunting for They've been hunting for

Drew Beech: 19:51

Almost 20 years. I don't know. I whenever when anybody ever asked me,

Joey Bowen: 19:53

to rate

Drew Beech: 19:54

myself, I give myself, like, 3

Joey Bowen: 19:54

out of 10, dude.

Drew Beech: 19:55

That's just how I am. I will

Joey Bowen: 19:55

know, like I said, toot my own horn. And that's the running joke of my family. Like, I'm a good shot. The 1st day I took my bow to the archery range, I had a a Robin Hood, which is basically when you put one arrow through the back of the other arrow. They're my first two arrows.

Drew Beech: 20:16

Split it? Mhmm.

Joey Bowen: 20:17

They were my first two arrows that came out of the bow. Yeah. Their first two hours came

Drew Beech: 20:22

out of bow. The the velocity at which the bow comes out.

Joey Bowen: 20:25

I actually have it over over here on top of my desk. Really? The arrows.

Drew Beech: 20:28

Yeah. So the velocity at which the the bow the arrow comes out Mhmm. Like, also, it matters too. Right? You could be Of course.

Drew Beech: 20:34

You could have the greatest aim, but if you're not pulling back Yeah. Hard enough to

Joey Bowen: 20:39

Well, it's a there's a, poundage or, like, a test on the Yeah. On the bowstring. So that's what will spit the arrow out faster. But some of these bows, I mean, they they just shoot crazy. I shoot a no bow.

Joey Bowen: 20:50

You know what I mean? My dad's bow, actually. It's from the nineties. It shoots much slower than other bows, but it works for me. And like I said, the running joke with my family is that, I only need, like, 20 minutes in the woods.

Joey Bowen: 21:02

Because of those times that I go up and I just do, like, one sit or one day, I always harvest something. Like, if something comes in on me, you know, my first two years hunting or whatever, like, a little bit of a wally wounded because, like,

Drew Beech: 21:17

you get your heart start

Joey Bowen: 21:18

racing. You're you're you're

Drew Beech: 21:19

how old are you? 10 years old?

Joey Bowen: 21:20

No. I didn't start till my twenties.

Drew Beech: 21:22

Oh, really?

Joey Bowen: 21:23

Yeah. But nowadays

Drew Beech: 21:25

The Beau in fact, he's been hunting. Like, I feel your dad was home when you were a kid, wasn't he?

Joey Bowen: 21:29

Oh, yeah. Grandpa Beau, and God rest his soul, man, he used to

Drew Beech: 21:32

So you didn't go out until you were 20?

Joey Bowen: 21:34

No. I didn't go out. No. We didn't. I was to be honest, I was so focused on school, my first business.

Drew Beech: 21:41

Even as, like, a high schooler? Like Mhmm. You just your dad ever asked you or

Joey Bowen: 21:46

just He didn't really. Like, we used to fish together, but he never really did because he knew that the time like, he's of the same mindset. That's where I got it from. Like, he's very respectful with the art and the nature of hunting. He knew the time that would be involved, and he wanted to keep me on the track of, like, doing well in school, keeping my nose clean, starting a business.

Joey Bowen: 22:06

Like, he wanted to keep me on that track, and I think that's why he never pushed it too much. But then once I got myself established a little bit in my twenties, then I

Drew Beech: 22:15

You're like, I'm ready to kill I'm ready to kill things.

Joey Bowen: 22:17

I'm ready to go. Yeah. Yeah.

Drew Beech: 22:19

Yeah. I'm

Joey Bowen: 22:19

ready to I'm ready to hunt, ready to eat.

Drew Beech: 22:21

With that being said, though, I think we kinda like you said, we kinda transitioned to a hunting dialogue. But as far as the mantra goes

Joey Bowen: 22:31

Yeah.

Drew Beech: 22:31

Like, I feel like the hunt is means something different to everybody. Right? Mhmm. Like like I said on, a previous podcast, like, me and Sean connected so so strongly that when we first met because we knew we were coming from the same call. We were both hunters.

Joey Bowen: 22:50

Yep.

Drew Beech: 22:50

But we were just on different journeys.

Joey Bowen: 22:52

Mhmm.

Drew Beech: 22:53

The same same same work ethic though. And that's why I think for anyone who reads our mantra or sees our logo, that's what they take away. And that's why it fires them up so much.

Joey Bowen: 23:09

Yeah. I agree. There's there's different hunting. We spend a little bit of time talking about hunting, but hunting, the literal hunt is such a great metaphor for life, and that's why it works. And, yes, people are on the hunt for different things on the metaphorical side.

Joey Bowen: 23:25

You know, a belt to be the best in the world, you know, to have a thriving community that has a positive impact on the world, to connect with like minded people, like, whatever it is. You know? Have a beautiful family. Have, you know, I'm sure, like, you know, other types of goals, things like that. But they all have the same underpinning of hard work.

Joey Bowen: 23:44

There's no way around it. You know? So the the the the prey may be different. Yep. Right?

Joey Bowen: 23:51

The prey may

Drew Beech: 23:52

be different. Of a metaphor.

Joey Bowen: 23:54

The prey may be different, but the procedure is the protocol, the process. It's the hard work.

Drew Beech: 23:59

Be an OG come up here in there.

Joey Bowen: 24:00

That's what I'm saying, man.

Drew Beech: 24:01

The prey may be different, but the hunt is the same.

Joey Bowen: 24:03

Well, Well, now I'm really gonna blow your mind because we're we're talking about what it means to be a hunter, and now we're we're moving towards, like, the metaphorical hunt. Right? And I was thinking about it. You ever have shower thoughts?

Drew Beech: 24:13

Oh, I have my best thoughts in the shower.

Joey Bowen: 24:15

That's amazing. There's a science behind that. We'll get into the show, but

Drew Beech: 24:19

I've never heard the sci fi Yeah. I thought about that last

Joey Bowen: 24:22

Bilateral stimulation.

Drew Beech: 24:23

Where are you bringing that up? Because I did brought up last time I said I had I said to a man, I was like, what?

Joey Bowen: 24:27

You that little thing for the shower? You put your phone in. Yeah. Yeah.

Drew Beech: 24:29

Yeah. But I was, like, I always go out of the shower to a man, like, to a man with, like, business ideas. I'm like, yeah. Like, this is like Yeah.

Joey Bowen: 24:39

It's a stimulation. We're getting into the science of that. Shower thoughts. But anyway, had a shower thought. And, you know, I was just mentally preparing for the show, and I was having that prey conversation in my mind.

Joey Bowen: 24:53

Because I say sometimes, like, the few were ego eyed and prey seeking. Right? And I was having this prey conversation in my mind about how, like, everybody's prey is a little bit different, but, you know, the underpinning is the same, and it's the work ethic, the hard work, what we stand for. Right? Dignity and hard work.

Joey Bowen: 25:10

I started really thinking about it, and I'm like, man, does that mean that the prey actually isn't different? Like, your prey is actually you. Right? Because there's what we believe is the only thing standing between who you are right now and the future you is you. So you're your own prey.

Drew Beech: 25:32

Yes. And that's full circle that you bring up now because with the conversation I was having Chris and Kyle.

Joey Bowen: 25:38

Yep. Chris and Kyle Dorcas.

Drew Beech: 25:41

Yes. So, like, Chris said, like, you when you wake up and you just only care about the work and you don't worry about setting huge goals and and how everything's gonna fall apart if you don't achieve them. Yep. That's when you actually grow. Right?

Drew Beech: 25:55

Like, that's when you actually win is when you're

Joey Bowen: 25:57

Exactly.

Drew Beech: 25:57

You just wake up and you think about the work.

Joey Bowen: 25:59

Exactly.

Drew Beech: 26:00

And once you reach that level of spiritual awakening, for lack of a better word, like Yeah. Awareness. Awareness. Like, even when we started Fujin, I I was I wanted to achieve this, where I had this this pedestal vision. Mhmm.

Drew Beech: 26:16

And now I just wanna wake up and work and and win.

Joey Bowen: 26:20

You know why? Because you you because we you trust hard work.

Drew Beech: 26:23

Yeah. Exactly.

Joey Bowen: 26:24

You know, you have the vision. It's so important to cast a vision, but then you and this is unpopular. Yeah. This is an unpopular outlook. It's so important to have a vision and know exactly where you wanna go, but then you need to you need to stop looking at it, and you need to put your head down and work.

Drew Beech: 26:41

You know what I'm saying? And I think the vision changes for a lot of people on the way. Like, my vision for what I wanted, with you on, when we started. Personal. Yeah.

Drew Beech: 26:51

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Personal vision. Oh, absolutely.

Drew Beech: 26:53

Absolutely. Different.

Joey Bowen: 26:55

Absolutely. Yeah. I've we've we did a a show, a few months back, and we got into, like, what like, the definition of hunt the verb, you know, and I I said, like, for me, on a daily basis, right, like, every day, it's to kill my lowest

Drew Beech: 27:16

The cap.

Joey Bowen: 27:16

Self Yep. And capture my highest self. And that's literally that that means I'm the prey. Yeah. And, like, I'm in the shower, and this is now all connected.

Joey Bowen: 27:26

I'm, like, that means I'm the prey. You know? I'm the only thing standing between the me now and the future me. You know? I feel like so many times we focus on the prey being the competition or the prey being the opponent or the prey being this or that or this when the reality is you get up every day, and you literally try to be a better human, 1% better every day.

Joey Bowen: 27:47

And that's what gets you there.

Drew Beech: 27:48

I know. It's so crazy to think too because my friend that just you said the other day, he's like, my friend Dane, He was like, if you do that Wait.

Joey Bowen: 27:56

You got 2 friends, Dane?

Drew Beech: 27:57

I got a little oh, yeah. Yeah. He's already 2 date? He was very upset.

Joey Bowen: 28:00

Room for a second here.

Drew Beech: 28:01

He lit he oh, I accidentally dude.

Joey Bowen: 28:03

We gotta rename your jujitsu friend.

Drew Beech: 28:05

Side note, but I when I sent you the an email one day, I accidentally emailed him. Did he mail you back?

Joey Bowen: 28:11

No. He texted me. He texted me.

Drew Beech: 28:14

No. I emailed I emailed, it went I emailed you or I emailed him instead of you. And he he texted me and was like he's like, bro, I'm such a bad worker or, like, a, like, a workaholic that I almost just said okay and started doing so I thought, like, hey. Can you do this? And he was like, that was just did what you need me to do and just fucking said okay.

Joey Bowen: 28:33

That's hilarious.

Drew Beech: 28:34

But he's like he's like, I'm very upset. You have you have 2 friends, Dane.

Joey Bowen: 28:37

He's like, I have

Drew Beech: 28:38

to talk to this guy.

Joey Bowen: 28:39

I was gonna I think we should have a death match on the mats.

Drew Beech: 28:42

He was smoked he smoked Dane. No. That's true. Blew up. Yeah.

Drew Beech: 28:44

Yeah. Yeah. I'm k.

Joey Bowen: 28:45

I'm in your corner, man.

Drew Beech: 28:46

I I'll coach you. Dane For what it's worth.

Joey Bowen: 28:48

Start training. For what it's worth. For what it's worth.

Drew Beech: 28:50

We'll have to coach you out. But, anyway, he, he was like, dude, if you do this, people are gonna hate you. And I was like I was like, bro, like, you think I care if people hate me? Like, I was like I think it's called the few will hunt for a reason. Not many will hunt.

Drew Beech: 29:03

So that's interesting to tie into what you're saying. Yeah. It's like the amount of people that don't feel that way, like, on a daily basis is like, I'm so grateful that when we come to work, we deal with, like, only people that think like us. Right? We just had a conversation with Tim, Chris, dog is Kyle, dog is work with Dane, work with Carrie.

Drew Beech: 29:23

Like, just people who are on the same pursuit and working hard to capture or kill their highest their highest selves. And it's when we go out into everyday society, we start to feel like I outcast, especially me now. I could hardly deal with anyone. That's just an a a normie. Right?

Drew Beech: 29:41

Like, I'm not a better

Joey Bowen: 29:42

I'm with you, man.

Drew Beech: 29:43

Worst fuck, me, you and I are very spoiled. I don't We went from we went from feeling lost and alone or discontent with our situation Mhmm. To being fucking spoiled. Like, because, like, everyone we deal with they like, even our vendors are, like,

Joey Bowen: 30:01

everyone. Free freedom. Like, I say it all the time. Go back to Dan Kennedy. Right?

Joey Bowen: 30:06

The 4 types of freedom. Right? To achieve those everybody thinks about financial freedom and how hard you have to work to get there. Those other freedoms, those other 3 that precede financial freedom, that's where it is. That dude, that's where it's bad.

Drew Beech: 30:18

Do you wanna tell the viewers about the 4 freedoms?

Joey Bowen: 30:20

Freedom of, financial freedom, freedom of time, freedom of purpose, freedom of relationships. And what you just described is freedom of relationships. The ability to get up every day, have freedom of purpose. Right? Work on exactly what you wanna work on with the people that you wanna work with.

Drew Beech: 30:36

Yep.

Joey Bowen: 30:37

Like, that's, dude, that's a blessing. That's where it's at, man. Yep. You know? But those things to get those things, you gotta work insanely hard, bro.

Joey Bowen: 30:46

Yep. Like, insanely hard to get there. Insanely hard.

Drew Beech: 30:49

Yeah.

Joey Bowen: 30:49

You can have a a corporate job. Ain't no wrong with a corporate job. No. Right? That's where I was for decades.

Joey Bowen: 30:56

Yeah. And you can work hard and surround yourself with the right people, and you still have just, like, some dumbass in your company that you can't deal you can't just can't deal with.

Drew Beech: 31:05

Yeah.

Joey Bowen: 31:05

You know what I mean? But here, that doesn't happen. No. You know? And and I'm I'm very, very, very, very grateful for that.

Drew Beech: 31:12

Yeah. Yeah.

Joey Bowen: 31:13

Very grateful for that. Very grateful for that. Yeah. I would did you elaborate on what you were going to do that was gonna make people wait? You don't have to.

Drew Beech: 31:25

No. It it was a

Joey Bowen: 31:26

Something simple.

Drew Beech: 31:27

Yes. Yeah. It was,

Joey Bowen: 31:29

Vinusha.

Drew Beech: 31:30

What was had to do with, like, baseball politics?

Joey Bowen: 31:33

Oh, okay.

Drew Beech: 31:34

I gotcha. I

Joey Bowen: 31:34

gotcha. I

Drew Beech: 31:35

gotcha. Baseball.

Joey Bowen: 31:36

Yeah. I gotcha. I got you. One of our The

Drew Beech: 31:41

girls came down to not conforming and not fit like, just doing well.

Joey Bowen: 31:45

I mean, we were having that conversation too with with Chris and Kyle, when they came in to do the show, and it's just like, that's that's what I wanted to mention. We've got a double whammy. We've got the double whammy of entrepreneurship and jujitsu.

Drew Beech: 31:57

Yeah.

Joey Bowen: 31:58

And, like, both of those games change you. Yeah. And when you're doing both together, you're literally and I commented on your post the other day, like, you you literally become a different

Drew Beech: 32:08

human. Yeah.

Joey Bowen: 32:09

Like, I looked at that picture that you posted. That wasn't that long ago. When was that? 21? Yeah.

Joey Bowen: 32:13

22 maybe?

Drew Beech: 32:14

Yeah. Something like that?

Joey Bowen: 32:15

Oh. Dude, I I am

Drew Beech: 32:19

and You've aged in reverse. It's crazy.

Joey Bowen: 32:21

But you know why? Because I'm not I'm Dude, I'm freedom. Because of freedom. That's why.

Drew Beech: 32:26

The the when you were on Snapchat, I, sent you a Snap, like, 4 years ago of of Parker saying happy birthday to Everly. And, like, we had a picture of you on on, like, Facebook or something. You are hurting, bro. Physically, I You are so much

Joey Bowen: 32:42

Well, that's what happens when, you know, like, you're that's shit. I mean yeah. I was drinking back then. Yeah. And even though I didn't drink often, I binge drank my face off on the weekends.

Drew Beech: 32:54

Yeah. True.

Joey Bowen: 32:54

You know, my face looked bloated.

Drew Beech: 32:56

Like That's great. Dude, you look 10 years younger. It's crazy. Mhmm.

Joey Bowen: 33:00

I mean, if I I appreciate that, man.

Drew Beech: 33:02

You could pass for 30. So it's legit. I I

Joey Bowen: 33:04

was talking to Avery. We were we were just talking back and forth, and, he was like,

Drew Beech: 33:11

he he was sending us because your life may have gotten harder or definitely it's gotten harder.

Joey Bowen: 33:14

No. It's definitely got way harder. Like but it's for a purpose. You know? And not to say it wasn't before, but

Drew Beech: 33:19

it's

Joey Bowen: 33:19

for a a much

Drew Beech: 33:20

And I

Joey Bowen: 33:20

do much stronger purpose.

Drew Beech: 33:22

And once you've reached the level of entrepreneurship, I feel like we've reached. Yeah. It's like when like, we've gone through hard times, obviously, years years out, whatever entrepreneurship is what it is. But even I don't know. It's reason the hard time.

Drew Beech: 33:35

I said like, we were driving one day, and I said to Amanda, I was like, it's crazy. We may be at our most challenging precipice of business yet. Mhmm. But I am the happiest I've ever been. So I'm I'm the least stressed I've ever been.

Drew Beech: 33:49

Like, you know what I mean? Like, stress as an entrepreneur is just something you deal with. Like

Joey Bowen: 33:53

Bro, I try to, you know, and this is this is just raw, like, raw stuff on the show. Like, I try to make sense of that some days where I'm like, I am happy. Like, I'm happy. I'm fulfilled. And, like, with everything we've got going on, like, this is the most difficult my life's ever been.

Joey Bowen: 34:11

Yeah. That's all. You know what I mean? And I'm, like, I try to balance those two things out. And, like, like, it's an You know, it's not.

Joey Bowen: 34:19

I understand why it's happening, but on the surface, it sounds like those two things are complete polar opposites.

Drew Beech: 34:25

Yeah. Like, think of how much

Joey Bowen: 34:27

So I say hard work makes you happy. We do we post it. We say fill in the blank. Hard work makes you, and then we get a bunch of, you know, rando commoners, that say hungry, horny, all this, like, weird shit. Happy.

Joey Bowen: 34:41

Happy. Hard work makes you happy, man.

Drew Beech: 34:43

Yeah. That's that's true, bro. That's coming for I I that comes full circle. Like, really, it's coming full circle for me right now in this moment. Like like the and entrepreneurship is just something that I used to talk everybody into, but now I don't talk anyone into it.

Drew Beech: 34:59

I talk people out of it because it's fucking brutal, dude. Like

Joey Bowen: 35:02

I'll add a footnote to the to the hard work that makes you happy. When you're working hard in service to others, that's that's where it comes from.

Drew Beech: 35:11

And they gotta have it too. It's like like like Frank, after you've finished, like

Joey Bowen: 35:16

Yeah.

Drew Beech: 35:17

When I when I nudged him to Chase's dream, like, I knew he was just dialed as a person. Like, you know what I mean? Like Yep. I was like, if you can put this much effort into your health and your fitness, you can put this much effort into your business too.

Joey Bowen: 35:30

Yeah. The hunt the hunt

Drew Beech: 35:32

I said the part, and it fucking makes it says those blue in the face, but how you do many things, how you do everything. That's true.

Joey Bowen: 35:39

The hunt the metaphorical hunt, the hunt that we're talking about, right, it changes you as a person. Like, when you're really on it, it changes you as a person. You know, you shed every weight. You know, you you shed a lot of tears too, but you you shed every weight that's holding you back.

Drew Beech: 35:58

Oh, yeah.

Joey Bowen: 35:59

You know? And it it really transforms you.

Drew Beech: 36:01

Even if that's that's, like, emotional weight. You know what I mean? Like Yep. We like, you shed the weight.

Joey Bowen: 36:07

I mean, that's where I was

Drew Beech: 36:08

well Yeah. You said the

Joey Bowen: 36:09

both. I was talking about the emotional weight, but you're right. The physical weight too.

Drew Beech: 36:12

Like, you

Joey Bowen: 36:13

shed the

Drew Beech: 36:13

weight of, well, physical weight. But I meant, like, I would say I would say, like, I would say you said the weight of the people in your circle

Joey Bowen: 36:21

Opinions.

Drew Beech: 36:22

Opinions. You stopped caring about that. You said the weight of, like, coping of of getting emotional over stress, like like, the you have to detach from all that. And Yeah. And it truly allows you to live life, like, in my opinion, like, a state of, as Ed Mylett calls it, what's what's what's the satisfaction.

Drew Beech: 36:43

Right? Like Yeah. Like, we're always happy and nothing could ever bother us because we're detached from the stuff that is a problem.

Joey Bowen: 36:50

You you when you choose to be an entrepreneur or you choose to you know, we're a hobbyist, you know, in the game, jujitsu. We've only been there a couple of years or whatever. But, like, when you make those choices, you quickly learn that your focus, your care, your attention, your heart, your hands, they're like a laser, and you need to focus them on as a narrow fixed point. Mhmm. Like, before that, you're caring about everything, and it's draining you.

Joey Bowen: 37:19

But when you shed that and you start to focus that care and attention, you know, on the people that you're serving or the game that you're playing, that's when you realize, like, the the actual power of hard work. Mhmm. You know what I mean? So it's I I we say that a lot. Like, oh, we stop caring what people think.

Joey Bowen: 37:39

The way I look at it is it's kinda like, no. I'm just putting my care in the right places. Yeah. Clearly. My my care is, like, focused like a laser now.

Joey Bowen: 37:45

Yeah. You know? It's not that I don't care about those things.

Drew Beech: 37:47

Yep.

Joey Bowen: 37:48

It's just that I now know that I care focusing at, like, a laser on a couple things will get me and the people that I love and care about, including our community, not just my family, to where they need to be. Yep. You know? So I was saying I was texting with Avery, and he was sending me some of his competition photos because he's always Yeah. He's always writing to

Drew Beech: 38:09

me. Email me back. Yeah. I thought I, Gmail? Yeah.

Drew Beech: 38:11

Well, I we did these flight shorts for him. I sent him a design.

Joey Bowen: 38:15

I'll text him. Yeah.

Drew Beech: 38:16

Text him.

Joey Bowen: 38:16

So he said text me some

Drew Beech: 38:17

waiting for an email back.

Joey Bowen: 38:18

His competition photos. And he was, like, leg day every day, bro. Because he's got I

Drew Beech: 38:23

got it.

Joey Bowen: 38:23

He's got tree trunks.

Drew Beech: 38:24

I gotta get his leg day routine there.

Joey Bowen: 38:26

He's got tree trunks, dude. So much power. He was a baller though too, I think. Like, he got to play soccer for a bunch of years too.

Drew Beech: 38:34

So I

Joey Bowen: 38:34

was like, look, dude. I was like I was like, I'm 42. I probably have another, like, good, like, 20 plus years of strength training. I was like, I ain't gonna catch up to your legs, bro. And he responded, and he was like, how he's like, you're how are you another person?

Joey Bowen: 38:49

It's like astonished. They're like, how you're like, I thought you were 32. Yeah.

Drew Beech: 38:53

And I was

Joey Bowen: 38:53

like, yeah. I'm aging in reverse. It's stress. It's doing it for me. Yeah.

Joey Bowen: 38:56

It's the right stress.

Drew Beech: 38:57

So, yeah, that's the that's our seek our biohacking secret of the of our the Vuhan show to Asia in reverse like Joey, stress more.

Joey Bowen: 39:04

Stress more about things

Drew Beech: 39:06

that matter.

Joey Bowen: 39:07

Yes. Exactly. Exactly. So what else do we wanna talk about with, hunting? Anything else?

Joey Bowen: 39:16

Not. Yeah. We covered we covered, we covered a lot of, lot of ground.

Drew Beech: 39:21

Do you do we take credit for the quote everybody wants to sleep at fuel hunt? Because I saw 1, like, in my Google searches of fuel hunt, like, char Charlie Manuel got got quoted with that

Joey Bowen: 39:36

for one time. Philly's?

Drew Beech: 39:38

Yeah. I don't know what was happening.

Joey Bowen: 39:41

Was Charlie Manuel, though? Yeah. That would have been before before us. Right?

Drew Beech: 39:46

Yeah.

Joey Bowen: 39:46

I don't know. I mean, it's something we've been saying at the cabin Yeah. For as long as I can remember. Nowadays, I feel like there isn't much original work. You know what I mean?

Joey Bowen: 39:58

Everything is inspired by something else.

Drew Beech: 40:00

Yeah. But,

Joey Bowen: 40:00

of course, like, everything we try to do here, I try to make it as original as possible as to you and the team, but, I wanna take credit for it.

Drew Beech: 40:07

I think we should.

Joey Bowen: 40:08

I'm saying we, the collective. Let's say I. I mean, we. I think we we should. I I think that, even if it wasn't ours to begin with, we've done we've done right by it.

Drew Beech: 40:18

I agree.

Joey Bowen: 40:18

So I think we should we should claim some ownership of it.

Drew Beech: 40:21

We were definitely at the cutting edge of it. Like, I mean, everyone's comp like, jogging us now.

Joey Bowen: 40:26

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of, the Fuse out there, you know, and there's a lot. Yeah.

Joey Bowen: 40:34

Well, those borrowing the name, but there's only one original Yeah. Community called the few.

Drew Beech: 40:40

I agree.

Joey Bowen: 40:41

Yeah. Alright, man. I'm gonna leave the few. Speaking of, I'm gonna leave the few with a reminder. Always choose hard work over handouts.

Joey Bowen: 40:48

Always choose effort over entitlement. Remember, no one owns you. No one owes you. You're one of the few. Now, let's hunt.