The Studio Demands It!

S7 EP8 | With Disney's ownership of the Night at the Museum franchise, there's money being left on the table. The studio demands the Tablet of Ahkmenrah be brought to the Happiest Place on Earth! 


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Jim Burzelic
Host
T.C. De Witt

What is The Studio Demands It!?

Two screenwriters attempt to recreate, reimagine, or flat out fix, existing film franchises when 'the studio' demands...MORE FILMS! It's an exercise in creative thinking where they will challenge themselves to conceptualize, pitch, and craft a film based on the stipulations of a hypothetical Hollywood overlord. | Sixfive Media

T.C.:

Hello, and welcome to the Studio Demands It! A screenwriting series where we will conceptualize, pitch, and craft a film or show based on the demands of one demands look at that. The demands from one of you listeners acting as a hypothetical Hollywood overlord. Hypothetical. That's right.

T.C.:

We're as professional screenwriters ourselves and massive cinephiles, we talk movies all the time.

Jim:

All of the time.

T.C.:

And we'd like to believe that we could meet any demand thrown at us. We will be your screenwriters for this episode. I am T. C. De Witt.

T.C.:

And joining me as always is Jim Trilogy Burzelic. Mhmm. Jim, are you the third in a family line or something?

Jim:

No. My parents wanted triplets.

T.C.:

Oh, wow. They Big ass.

Jim:

Was just one. It was just me. Oh. So they they put it all on me to be three.

T.C.:

Wow. So the the pressure of being three children in one Mhmm. So you so if you got in trouble, you could just blame it on the middle version of yourself?

Jim:

I yeah. Yeah. I I could do stuff like that. Okay. I'm so ignored.

Jim:

Or or, like, if they were disappointed in me, they say we we expect better in the sequel. We

T.C.:

we recently saw Toy Story five. And and Toy Story one, two, three are such. They're they're a perfect trilogy. It is one of the greatest trilogies ever created.

Jim:

I was I skipped four, and I was reluctant to go see five because three ended so It's so so wonderfully.

T.C.:

It's so good. It's one of the greatest trilogies of all time. And and when they were gonna do a fourth, I was I was on the train of people going like, no. No. Why would you do this?

T.C.:

Mhmm. Then I saw four, like, okay. And then I saw five, and I'm like, alright. You just make make 10 more. I don't care.

T.C.:

You guys get it. You guys get it. But but crafting a trilogy I got my Star Wars posters up here, and Neil Jones, Back to the Future. Yeah. I have I have multiple trilogies up on my walls right now.

T.C.:

And You love them. I do. All all over. But there was a time where you got getting three movies in a series was rare and often mostly just horror movies. But in the especially in the twenty first century That's expected.

T.C.:

Yeah. Like, say, like, people coming out and going, like, pitch me a trilogy.

Jim:

Mhmm.

T.C.:

So much so that we've seen many movies come along that set up a sequel

Jim:

that will never be to get their movie their their sequels.

T.C.:

I have I have written numerous features for producers and directors with that attitude. And I'm and I'm always trying to be as as gentle as possible to say, you don't have a guarantee of a third or second movie. Let's just make a really good first movie. Yeah. We can we can sprinkle in and ever more often than not, no.

T.C.:

No. We're gonna do this as a trilogy. Okey doke. Alright. Yeah.

T.C.:

You know, you're paying me to write this for you. Here we go. But I I'm always really resistant to doing that Mhmm. Because there's no guarantee you'll make one movie, for crying out loud. But we just watched ourselves a trilogy in preparation for today.

Jim:

We did. But, I mean, to that end, what the trilogy we watched did not think, oh, we're gonna we're gonna get us a trilogy.

T.C.:

Yes. I to to Night at the Museum's credit, each movie felt like, and we're done. Like, didn't it didn't leave something hanging, and the the the it it did something that I think Indian or Pirates of the Caribbean, as I've said many many times should have done. Just make a good movie. If you get a sequel, make a sequel that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the first one or the one before it.

T.C.:

Those Night at the Museum movies, you probably could watch them one three two if you wanted to, and it wouldn't be so disarming. There there is a through line.

Jim:

No. You you are right. It would be things would be weird. Like, you would watch one, and then you watch three, and then you watch two, and you're like, Amelia? Where was Amelia in the

T.C.:

third one? True. True. But they do stand well enough on their own. Sure.

T.C.:

You you need to know very little of what came before. Cause they do a good job of at least having one character that needs to have the whole situation explained to them. Yeah. So appreciated for that. But We just watched the trilogy

Jim:

We did.

T.C.:

In preparation for this demand. This demand I'll mention later. Never mind. We just watched the trilogy. We did.

T.C.:

Yes. And I'd never seen the third one. You'd never seen the third one.

Jim:

Or the second.

T.C.:

You hadn't seen the second one. No. When we sat down to watch the first one, which we'd both seen,

Jim:

it's just been

T.C.:

a long time. You pointed out it was the last family Christmas movie you had. Yeah. We know that Tom Lennon and Garnett

Jim:

I can't John Garnett? His his co writer. Garnett. Yeah.

T.C.:

They they wrote a book on screenwriting.

Jim:

Oh, Grant. Grant.

T.C.:

They wrote a book on screenwriting that is lauded. Our friend Danny lent it to me when we first started spending time together. Mhmm. And they have a very good notion of it's it's a zoomed by the neighborhood. But looking at the screenplay, like, looking at strictly the screenplay, that first movie has a great struck three x structure.

Jim:

Yep.

T.C.:

It's a it's a very fun, adventurous like movie. I I was pretty amazed that it is a modern day adventure movie. It is contemporary.

Jim:

It is. Yeah.

T.C.:

About twenty years old that way. And I thought the second one had a lot of the pitfalls of a sequel, where it's it didn't have it didn't it I don't know. I just there was there's an elements of it that I felt like, this isn't as strong of a story as that first one is. Yeah. Which oftentimes, the origin is the best story.

T.C.:

Mhmm. And then the third one was paced funny. That first one's really good, and I can see why the other two were made. But in general, just doing a flash review right now. What did what are your thoughts on on the franchise as a whole?

Jim:

Yeah. No. I I think I agree. Yeah. The the the first one really is is the best of the three.

Jim:

Mhmm. I think the second was served well by being written by the same people. Yeah. And then I think the third one was the weakest, and they they took it upon themselves to wrap up the the trilogy.

T.C.:

Yeah. I the the whole let your family. Let your little ones grow. You've you've done your part as a father, and it's time to let them spread their wings and and fly was hit a little hard. Yeah.

T.C.:

Daddy issues. But it's overall, like, it's a fun franchise.

Jim:

But but I I can see why I can see why this they chose the things they did the the stories they did. As as we discussed as it was going, I had remarked that I thought it was interesting how late in the first one, any notion of of romance Yeah. That romantic subplot is really And it wasn't really like, it was the it was the the smallest kernel of anything.

T.C.:

Yeah. It's like a d plot. Yeah. Maybe a c plot.

Jim:

And I I kind of expected to see it come back in the second one Mhmm. And it didn't. They instead went with Amelia Earhart. The Amelia Earhart.

T.C.:

Not gonna complain. Amy Adams is a wonderful sight.

Jim:

She is. But and and and it made sense there as well. The because the whole thing was a coming home. I'm I'm using that term very loosely. It was a coming home story.

Jim:

Mhmm. Right? The first one is, I'm a guy who's who has no direction in his life, and I'm a dad, and my kid doesn't believe in me anymore, and I gotta go get all of that. And he gets it through becoming the magic guardian of the becoming the guardian of the magic museum. Mhmm.

Jim:

The second one, he has he's succeeded. And He has it all. Yeah. And what they've done with that is they said, ah, but he's succeeded to the point that he's forgotten where he comes from and what he truly loves. Mhmm.

Jim:

And so that's what the second is returning to.

T.C.:

Mhmm.

Jim:

And and in the in the end of that one at the I'm not I

T.C.:

remember everything. His company makes and he becomes filthy rich and then donates to the back

Jim:

to the museum.

T.C.:

To keep the museum open. Yeah.

Jim:

And and and it ends with he he is now the night guard. He also runs the night show. The museums just open all freaking night long.

T.C.:

Mhmm.

Jim:

And right. So so so that's sort of what that that story is. It's it's it's come home come home to what you truly love.

T.C.:

Yeah. Find a balance between all aspects of your life.

Jim:

Yeah. To to be truly happy. And and the the kid was incorporated into that one as well. Right? Am I forgetting?

T.C.:

No. Nikki didn't play too big of a part in the second one. No. But he was the guy at the computer in the second.

Jim:

Oh, sure. Yeah. And then the third one, you can very much see they looked at the first two and are like, okay. The story line through here is the growth of this character, and the the more important thing is his relationship with this kid. And so they focused on that in the third one.

Jim:

Enough time had passed between the first and then second and then third that, oh, the kid would be becoming an adult.

T.C.:

Heading off to college. Yeah.

Jim:

Born now. At this at this age. Yeah. So let's use that. Let's use the whole empty nesting type thing, the whole dad's trying to hold on and Mhmm.

Jim:

Direct his his kid as as best he knows how, but that's not letting him spread his wings and whatnot.

T.C.:

Whatnot. Yes.

Jim:

And so they they reinforce that by having that same sort of they do parallel stories of that a couple different ways.

T.C.:

Right. Right. Rami Malek's toot it's not Tutankham. He's based on Tutankham. But his father son duo there, the very beginning with the with the flashback 1938 opening with, I really thought Matt Frewer was gonna come back as the villain

Jim:

So did I.

T.C.:

In that third one. Yeah. What a strange, like, well, he's there, and and he looked like Yeah. The bad guy from Raiders of the Lost Time. He really did.

T.C.:

I thought he was gonna be the villain. But, yeah, a lot of father son. And then in general, that it's time to let go

Jim:

of music. Also created a weird father son thing with bet with with Larry and caveman law. Oh,

T.C.:

right. Yeah. Yeah.

Jim:

To be almost like a comedic version of the whole parent son Mhmm. Thing is is weird. And

T.C.:

and also that the museum as a whole, as Teddy says it, he's like, it's time for us to let go. We're gonna be okay. Yeah. You've done your part. You've given us everything we've ever hoped for as our caretaker, as our Mhmm.

T.C.:

As our guard, as our night guard.

Jim:

Yeah. Let us go. As a father is to their children.

T.C.:

Exactly. And he and he's willing to say goodbye to all of them and let them go. And and I think it's interesting that his Nikki wants to go up and be a DJ and and just try it. He doesn't say he doesn't I don't know if that's for me, but it's the next thing I wanna try. And then the last moment of the movie is Larry looking at the museum, and there's a DJ dance party happening.

T.C.:

And he stays outside just knowing that they're in that they're in there living and and having fun, and and he Mhmm. Is responsible for that in one way or another. That's a little bit a little bit of poetry there.

Jim:

It is. Yeah. Yeah. It so so in in that regard, that third one is put together really well.

T.C.:

Yeah.

Jim:

Allegorically? Metaphorically? Metaphorically? Emotionally? Poetically?

Jim:

Yeah. It doesn't it felt it also felt kind of ham fisted as too much. Mhmm. But it felt like, oh, okay. Yeah.

Jim:

We see what you're doing. Mhmm. And and that shouldn't be bad. But I I I don't know. It it just it wasn't as good

T.C.:

Yeah. As the It wasn't as satisfying. And maybe because it's it's hard to it's hard to close off a story sometimes. Like, ending especially ending a trilogy, there's there's some that's tough sometimes. Yeah.

T.C.:

But I think in general, they're fun movies. They they're they're pretty totally consistent. Mhmm. I think Ben Stiller's great. We we were talking about it as we watched the first one.

T.C.:

He really is great. You you what'd you say? He's the comedic Tom Cruise?

Jim:

Yeah.

T.C.:

May you know, I kinda

Jim:

I was thinking I was think be I was thinking of saying that because he really positions himself similarly to how Tom Cruise positions. Like, the by position, I mean, like, he takes on characters and stories Mhmm. That are narratively similar to what Tom Cruise does. Tom Cruise tends to take dramatic versions of that. Mhmm.

Jim:

And Ben Stiller tends to take comedic versions of

T.C.:

that. Sure. Yeah. And and you also gave him a very good label. You said, at least in the third one, you're like, oh, I get it.

T.C.:

He's Kermit. He is Yeah. He has Kermit energy. And I'm like, you know what? Yeah.

T.C.:

Kinda. Mhmm. That even his like Yeah.

Jim:

Very very much put upon trying to keep the show rolling.

T.C.:

Yeah. And if not Kermit, just Muppety energy. He has good Muppet energy. Yeah. I'm sure with the numerous things that have existed with the Muppets in very long, Betzler probably did a cameo somewhere along the line.

Jim:

Mhmm.

T.C.:

I love the Muppets, but they're they're probably smarter Muppet fans than me. They go, yes. Actually, it was in Muppets Most Wanted. But yeah. Betzler's great.

T.C.:

He this really is a a really fun franchise for him, and and I think the knowing that the original script was written with Eddie Murphy in mind, and then he passed on it, I think that's a I don't think there would have been three movies if Eddie Murphy had done it.

Jim:

No. Probably

T.C.:

not. Particularly coming out in 2006, Eddie Murphy was kind of not putting up the best stuff at that time. Sure. And I don't know if that's the projects he was picking or the energy he was putting into it, but, unfortunately, that's a bit of a a down turn of his career.

Jim:

You know what it might have turned into? It it wouldn't I don't think it would be the the trilogy we got. Yeah. I think it might have been successful. Mhmm.

Jim:

And it might have been a series, a trilogy, a franchise. I think it would have been similar to the Klumps. I think he would have Yeah. Not in the first

T.C.:

more one characters.

Jim:

He would have played more characters.

T.C.:

Oh, yeah. You're right. And, actually, truth be told, it That might not be the worst thing. That might not be

Jim:

the worst. He's done that on like, that's sort well, that's one of his go to things.

T.C.:

Sure. That's a he's been doing that longer than doctor Doolittle. Yeah. Play I mean, all the way back to Coming to America.

Jim:

And probably earlier.

T.C.:

Yeah. Actually, come to think of it, the a trilogy of we pitched a trilogy of Haunted Mansion movies back in season one. We did. That's as I was watching this, was like, caretaker of a madhouse, we sort of constructed a similar idea with with our Haunted Mansion. Mhmm.

T.C.:

Pitching that that's that's just Sure. That's just sort of con connected to this and imagining someone other than Ben Stiller making it.

Jim:

That description of an arch archetype is really good. Caretaker of a madhouse.

T.C.:

We're we're creating a subgenre of That's

Jim:

that's a wonderful wonderful archetypal description. Amazing.

T.C.:

Well, all of that, as we've just discussed, leads us perfectly into the demand for today. Now this demand has been sitting here for a long time. I I've I've flagged it a couple seasons ago when we were doing the that search engine optimization of just, like, I'm gonna pick a topic Yeah. And see how many demands we have for it. And I can't remember what the tie in was, but I I had I had searched for Night at the Museum.

T.C.:

We had one demand Okay. For Night at the Museum. So I was like, well but this season, we're having a little more fun with what we're picking. We're not chasing any algorithm. So I was like, you know what?

T.C.:

Let's that that that demand's been sitting there for a couple years. Let's let's let's go for it. Alright. So today's demand comes from Garrett at Fox Foxesnee. Foxesnee?

T.C.:

Foxesnee. Foxesnee Studios. Thank you. Oh, the Yeah. Disney bought Fox Studios in 2019, and since then, they've used many of the Fox franchises such as Alien and Planet of the Apes, but they are sitting on a huge franchise that has massive potential.

T.C.:

We know what it is. Especially in the hands of such capable screenwriters such as us. Oh, Garrett Flannery will get you everywhere. Really will. Night at the Museum has had three movies and one animated sequel on the way.

T.C.:

Okay. Well, it has come out since. And but oh, I I didn't mention this earlier. The the animated sequel is Nikki. Larry gets Nikki a job as the night security guy guard

Jim:

Okay.

T.C.:

Because Nikki needs direction in his life, and the the DJ thing didn't work out. And and Nikki's clumsy. Man. I'm like the burger bird. And the first night, he is on duty.

T.C.:

The the bad guy from the night at the From the fifth better than the third. Second one. He comes back, and he's very angry. But that is I've read the synopsis, I didn't watch it. So Okay.

T.C.:

I'm sorry, Garrett. Night at Museum. Okay. Night at the Museum, one animated sequel on the way. But there is a premise sitting right there on the table Uh-oh.

T.C.:

Waiting to be written for Disney to make billions of dollars. Oh my god. Are you ready for this, Jim? Gentlemen, my studio demands Night at the Park. Take Akam Ra's tablet to Disneyland and make it happen, chaps.

Jim:

Oh, no.

T.C.:

Do it. Oh my god. Thank you, Garrett. Okay. I I anticipated some sort of, like, Night at Museum sequel.

T.C.:

That's what I thought we were gonna have here. But he this is a very specific demand. It is. This is a Night at the Park Night at Disneyland. And honestly, that's that's true.

T.C.:

Disneyland's sitting on an opportunity here. We okay. Okay. Well, as discussed, we we kinda understand this trilogy pretty well because we literally just watched it. Mhmm.

T.C.:

Night at the Night at the Park. Okay. So figuring out how to get the tablet there is that's the doohickey that needs to happen. Yep. We need to understand what the what the threat of the magic is or whatnot.

T.C.:

What's funny here is the whole Jurassic Park quote about the original launch of Disneyland with Sam Jackson says, yeah. But when Pirates of the Car oh, no. Jeff Glubham says, when Pirates of the Caribbean breaks down, the pirates don't eat the tourists. Yeah. They might.

T.C.:

Okay. Thank you, Garrett. That's amazing. Jim, Night at the Park. Okay.

Jim:

Alright. So premise wise, Disney has a new feature film,

T.C.:

a

Jim:

new a new animated feature, and it's about I don't remember. I don't even remember the character's name. Remy Malik's Prince.

T.C.:

Got it. Okay. So oh, they're doing a They're

Jim:

they're doing a move they're doing a movie.

T.C.:

An animated movie about about okay. What was his name? Find it. It's in my head. Remy Malik.

T.C.:

It's in my

Jim:

head. Something Tough.

T.C.:

Oh, duh. It's Akam Ra. It's the the tablet's named after him.

Jim:

Oh, okay. Oh, yeah. The the yeah.

T.C.:

Achmin Ra. Yeah.

Jim:

There you Achmin Ra. Yes. Okay.

T.C.:

So they're making a movie that wouldn't be called Achmin Ra. They

Jim:

probably No. It wouldn't be called that. It'd be called something like I don't know. Something like Prince of Egypt or something like that.

T.C.:

Oh my god. If we wanna get if we wanna get super geeky about this, having someone be like, well, if Katzenberg and DreamWorks gonna rip off our movies, we can rip off their movies. You're gonna rip off a 30 year old movie at this point? When Prince and Prince of Egypt come out? That had to be early.

Jim:

I don't I don't remember.

T.C.:

Okay. Continue, though. So they're they're making a

Jim:

And to celebrate, they're opening not a new land in Disney, but they're definite they're they're they're they're having, like, a special or maybe they are well, no. They they don't really do museum type stuff. Well, I'll tell you what. Yeah. They're they're having at least a temporary Exhibit.

Jim:

Yes. Type thing to celebrate their movie in in in the park. Mhmm. Transforming, which one's the most deserty, frontier land Yeah. Into There's there's

T.C.:

a section over by Indiana Jones that there's a nice little standy by the Jungle Cruise little section. Eventually. Eventually. That has Aladdin and Jasmine sometimes are there taking photos. So they have a desert area.

Jim:

So the the and they're and they're building out one to to to celebrate Aachman Ra Yeah. And and whatever that fun Disney movie is being called.

T.C.:

Mhmm.

Jim:

And King of Egypt.

T.C.:

There you go. They didn't have kings. They had pharaohs. Mean pharaohs? Did they have princes?

T.C.:

Wait a minute. This all seems inaccurate. We're trying to be very culturally sensitive, Disney. That there there's gonna be a sensitivity officer within this, like, in this movie that's constantly being like, now listen. We need to be sensitive to the culture.

T.C.:

We need to which is good. This is a good thing. I'm not mocking it, but it's a it's a good lampshade of

Jim:

Who just who just keeps who just keeps tisking Hank's area Every because because we bring him back?

T.C.:

Oh, no. I wouldn't are we? No. Are we?

Jim:

I don't know. Oh god. We're making jokes.

T.C.:

They bring him back, but he's waxed now. They've made a wax version of him as opposed to the mummified version. And he's really nice.

Jim:

But but yeah. So to celebrate the release of this movie, they they bring in the the the actual Sarcophagus. Sarcophagi Yeah. And and all all that stuff.

T.C.:

Mhmm. And the tablet as well. It into this exhibit. Yeah.

Jim:

There. I gotcha. You got I got the tablet and family at at the park. I didn't get any of our New York Mhmm. Stuff.

Jim:

I didn't get any of our other British Museum stuff.

T.C.:

Okay.

Jim:

But we got the the

T.C.:

The tablets.

Jim:

The impetus to to bring the animatronics to life.

T.C.:

Okay. I'm I'm I that's the way to go. I'm gonna offer up another little suggestion here. First of we I want Lair to be there. Lair's I think we're not gonna create a new character.

Jim:

I disagree.

T.C.:

Really?

Jim:

Okay. Right. That last one was 2014.

T.C.:

Mhmm.

Jim:

Larry was 48 or 49. '49. Yeah. Putting him in his sixties now. And I realize people, especially Hollywood people, they look and act way younger than they are.

Jim:

So we could have Ben Stiller be in it again. Yeah. I want to separate Ripley from the alien.

T.C.:

Oh, man. I don't know. I feel like you like, Larry could be there with his grandkids. I I I take your point. I take your point.

Jim:

I'd I'd like, what you just saying, him there with his grandkids, that's a lot of fun. That is. And and, actually, both Ben Stiller and the guy, I I don't remember his name, you remember his name, that played his kid, that played Nick.

T.C.:

It's Skyler. Jim Eilson. Nicky. Nicky's the

Jim:

He's still working in a big enough actor. We totally could put both of them in here Yeah. Which movies like doing now having the same actors. That totally would work. I could totally be convinced of that.

Jim:

But my goal would have been to to to sever Ripley Ripley from the aliens.

T.C.:

I to to to go to the core of our show Mhmm. And think about what a studio would demand, I I this is a tough tough gamble here.

Jim:

Well, this and then this is what would need to be explained to to the studio. So studio, listen up. Yeah. Right? Because you're wanting this franchise to keep going.

T.C.:

Mhmm.

Jim:

Either you tie it's been enough years. You either tie this franchise to the same character again. Mhmm. Meaning, if you wanna do more than one, you're tying it to this dude. Yes.

Jim:

You we can always separate again down the road. Yeah. Maybe this is the thing is the third one already did the whole Farewell. I'm moving on. Yeah.

Jim:

The farewell. That's true.

T.C.:

That's true. To to in in counter to that, I'm not in support of this, but I'm just being the devil's advocate here. You love that.

Jim:

I I sure do.

T.C.:

Last crusade, they rode off into the sunset. And then we got Indy back two more times. And

Jim:

It and and we loved that?

T.C.:

No. I that's why I'm being the advocate here. I'm being the devil's We we also had Woody very tearfully, wonderfully, beautifully say goodbye, and they brought him back in a very small role in five. Mhmm. And I think there's a balance here.

T.C.:

We don't wanna go dial a destiny, but I think we can cleave closer to if Larry is in here, he's not like, it's a it's a true passing of the torch opportunity here. He could have a a smaller role. And if we do this fast enough, even Dick Van Dyke can make a cameo because he's still out there and literally kicking. So but I I I I completely see what you're saying that if we can hang this onto an if we can start this franchise over again or or continue it with a new person that that gives us longevity. Mhmm.

T.C.:

But, also, he just said how well Ben Stiller does in in this series. I don't know. I I get your point, and I I also wanna fight it.

Jim:

Sure. I just just because he does well in it doesn't mean that it's the only way to Mhmm. To survive. Did you have a story in mind, or were you just looking forward to seeing Larry Daly again?

T.C.:

The the notion that he's on vacation at the park, and, well well, maybe we could contrive some reason why he's completely unaware. He just he he only watches older movies. He doesn't he doesn't keep up on the newer stuff because he likes the classic stuff. I wanna go on Pirates of the Caribbean. Well, I wanna go on Guardians of the Galaxy.

T.C.:

Like the the

Jim:

Guardians of the Galaxy. You mean Space Mountain?

T.C.:

No. No. Space Mountain's boring. I wanna go to I wanna go over to the Cocoa area. I wanna go on Cars.

T.C.:

Like, anyway Oh, man. Oh,

Jim:

the demand was for this, but it it just the way you're saying these things,

T.C.:

it's like

Jim:

It really just sounds like, oh, product placement.

T.C.:

It it oh my god. That's why Garrett's right. Garrett's right. Disneyland's sitting on a gold mine here. But the notion that he doesn't know that that he's on vacation, and then wait.

T.C.:

What's this exhibit here? Oh, it's the it's the new animated movie that's coming out that they're doing. It's about this pharaoh, Disneyland. If they're staying at one of the hotels there, they have access to the park after hours.

Jim:

See, that's where I was gonna go for the plot Mhmm. Is they go to the park and then somehow get separated through through accident or Our our main character. Our main character. Yeah. And the grandkids get separated.

Jim:

Basically, if if we're bringing him in, I'm going I'm going to mitigate him as much as I can.

T.C.:

Yeah. Yeah. That's a Woody sized role from Five. Like, he is there for support

Jim:

He's gonna be he's gonna be Al. He's he's gonna be on the outside. He's gonna be trying to get into the park, because he gets locked out and the kids get locked in. Mhmm. And so the kids are having this adventure.

Jim:

Mhmm.

T.C.:

May maybe he's not even aware that the tablet's there until hey. Hey. Hey. Gigantor. Gigantor, wake up.

T.C.:

And then Olm Olsen has has tracked him down in his hotel room, and said, the park's alive, and your kids and your grandkids are trapped inside. Something like that.

Jim:

I don't even I I I see what you're saying. I think it would be wait. I I don't know when he when that that'd be an interesting c plot, I

T.C.:

think. Mhmm.

Jim:

Him what what statues are on the outside of Disney?

T.C.:

On outside the park?

Jim:

Are you thinking land or world? Disneyland. Okay.

T.C.:

That's what the demand for was Disneyland.

Jim:

Oh, it was Disneyland.

T.C.:

And, honestly, pretty smart because you could if this is successful, then we go to Disney World and then Disneyland Paris and Tokyo and Shanghai.

Jim:

Sure.

T.C.:

Yeah. But Disneyland was specifically the demand. So outside of the park, there are a couple of the Are there

Jim:

are there

T.C.:

shaped topiaries? There's some facades of characters on some of the buildings. There's the Lego store that has Disney Legos in Downtown Disney.

Jim:

I think it'd be more fun if that's how Larry discovers it, and then he's like, what? No. I gotta get back in that park. Mhmm. Is is something, like, just on the outside comes to life.

T.C.:

The park's closed. The moose should have told you out front. Yeah.

Jim:

That yeah. Yeah.

T.C.:

Yeah. That kind of thing. The yeah. Yeah. And The moose took off.

T.C.:

The moose wasn't there. That's a vacation quote. You knew that. Getting him to and from whatever the case let's curb that for a second. Them coming to life is all well and good, but now what's the what's the the threat here?

T.C.:

What's the the drama here? Like, we need a bad guy. We need an antagonistic force. Like, in the first one, it is the what is the fur so the the first one is controlling it so he doesn't lose his job and proving that it is, in fact, real.

Jim:

No. That's that's weirdly a b plot. The the actual thing that happens is the night watchman hired him to be a Yes. Patsy because they were stealing

T.C.:

Right. Right. That is the the main threads there. Correct. The second one is Akhmirah's brother is trying to raise the army of the dead, and the tablet is in the Smithsonian.

T.C.:

Mhmm. And then the third one is the tablet is deteriorating. Deterior deteriorating? Yeah. So we need to come up with an antagonistic force or or being that threatens the tablet.

T.C.:

Right? Like, should be the fact or I

Jim:

mean, that would that would mirror the third one. It doesn't have to. It so that that fourth movie, is it is it just the first portion of the first one? Like, boy, Nikki sure is clumsy. And that's that's the entire it's man versus himself?

T.C.:

Well, it's it's Nikki is the nightguardsman, and and Oh, no. That's that's back Yeah. And wants to, once again, raise the dead.

Jim:

And now we don't necessarily have to honor that plot. Do we want to bring him back?

T.C.:

To bring Ankazaria back as the villain? No. I don't.

Jim:

You do not?

T.C.:

No. I don't I don't wanna do that. I I think there's an opportunity here. Considering let's actually take a step back from what we already know and think about what the park has to offer. We have animatronic.

T.C.:

We have a lot to play with at Disneyland. The Pirates of the Caribbean are there. Jocosh Johnny Depp could make a cameo as Jack Sparrow for crying out loud. Jeffrey Rush could make a cameo. We could get

Jim:

Just just all of the all the pirates.

T.C.:

We could get our red headed pilot. We could red pirate. Could. Yeah.

Jim:

The tablet just brings that one ride to life, and we spend the whole movie there.

T.C.:

Haunted Mansion certainly has villainous forces in the Haunted Mansion. Star Wars has plenty of animatronics that we can play with as well. There's endless market like, toys in all the stores

Jim:

and everything. Obviously, at some point, we have to go on It's a Small World. Oh, god. Yeah.

T.C.:

The new Splash Mountain's been replaced by Princess and the Frog. But and this is just Disney in itself. If we wanna rope in California Adventure, then we have some other we have a lot of Pixar stuff to deal with.

Jim:

Different park.

T.C.:

Oh, it's even though it's literally across the way. There's 18 museums in the Smithsonian. They brought them all to life.

Jim:

Yeah. By using the the shared basement, the the the shared sub base.

T.C.:

Yeah. And Disneyland and and And then also California Genser.

Jim:

Running between them with the tablet.

T.C.:

Yeah. And and all the

Jim:

I've never been to California Adventure. As far as I know, it doesn't exist.

T.C.:

Oh, well, it does. I'm telling you. The legends are true. But that being said, do we wanna pull a villain from this from the park? Do we want the

Jim:

I right. So we could mirror the second one rather than having it be Hanka's area.

T.C.:

Uh-huh.

Jim:

That that's just the name of the character. And but the way he recruited other villains Right. We could mirror that. Right? Like Maleficent could be like, okay.

Jim:

I sure like this being alive thing, and this world is not ready for my magic. You

T.C.:

started at dinner tonight, started pitching me a story I'd never heard in my life.

Jim:

Did I?

T.C.:

Were about, like, using the tablet to make perpetual night.

Jim:

Oh. Yeah.

T.C.:

Did you ever figure out what that

Jim:

was I have no idea. I swear it's a conversation we had. Maybe not on Mike. It may not have been on Mike, but I swear it was about Night at the Museum.

T.C.:

I I have no memory of this, but but describe it again.

Jim:

It was so close. It was so close to some of the plots we got. It was I I for whatever reason, we just I may maybe I just made it up all on my own. And you said, yeah. That's pretty close to whatever movie to to the second movie, I guess.

Jim:

But it was it was essentially that one of the Egyptian pharaoh guys comes back and wants to is is brought back by the tablet and wants to stay here forever knowing it goes away at dawn every day. He wants to make perpetual nights. He wants to to keep the night out forever so so he can he can leave the museum and can can live.

T.C.:

And okay. I I have no memory of this, and that's a really good villain plot to be like, this tablet at night brings us to life, so let's just keep it night. And the best part about that is the park is closed at night, so we don't have to deal with once well, the sun goes down, and then after hours, eventually, the Yeah. Like, the the way Night at Museum works works out is that the building closes before nightfall Yeah. In in the logic of this.

T.C.:

Disney stays open well past nightfall. So I don't know if we wanna figure out any aspect of that. Like, do all these things come to life while people are still at the park? Sure. Or is there some sort of weird delay in the tablet that they don't come to life till after everyone's left?

T.C.:

Because honestly, this

Jim:

I don't wanna make up new rules

T.C.:

Yeah.

Jim:

For for how the tablet works, but also, yeah, that that does get complicated.

T.C.:

Yeah. So the this perpetual night idea is really something. I have zero memory of it. And if if I I just did a little Google search. I can't find anything that's that that is the plot of anything.

Jim:

Well, the thing is so Night at the Museum has come up before. Like, you have been, and maybe we haven't done it earlier because I have been like, it wasn't just you putting it off because of the algorithm or anything. Mhmm. Because I had only seen the first one, and so I didn't know where they went.

T.C.:

Mhmm.

Jim:

And I'd like like, it might have it very well might have been that. And I was like, I don't remember. And, like, you remind me of the plot of the first one. Like, okay. Well, then What about this?

Jim:

And then I I even though we weren't on mic, I just kinda pitched it, you're like, yeah. That's the second one. I was like, well, I don't know. Hanging at me.

T.C.:

Hanging at me. The notion of Maleficent becoming animated courtesy of the tablet and then wanting to well, the second movie gave us an indication of the magic of the tablet. Darth Vader's there. The force isn't real.

Jim:

Right. Because he tries using the force, and they and And he's like, what

T.C.:

And they don't even laugh at him. They just don't know what he's doing. You. The threat you took the air with let's get out of here. Yeah.

T.C.:

So that's not to say that Maleficent is isn't so evil if we choose to make her the villain Sure. That she has some sort of magic that can be that the tablet can enhance or that she's so smart she can she can draw some evil magic from the tablet, and now we can create new rules because she's magic.

Jim:

So let let's discuss what the tablet can do already. Mhmm. It brings, things in the museum to life. In the first one, they did a pretty good job of having it just be historical things, suggesting the historical being, the the soul of them was being Imbued. Imbued.

Jim:

Yes. Into the the wax statues and the the other statues, not just wax. But the only other points of they weren't people or or or actual living things, the Easter Island head. Right. That comes to life and talks.

Jim:

Mhmm. That is a that's a magical thing.

T.C.:

It right? It's it's a head.

Jim:

Yeah. But, like, it it's not like unless unless what it's saying is that sometime long ago, the Easter Island statues actually did talk at the very least.

T.C.:

Oh, I see. Because it's it is not an an animated an inanimate object made animate. Yeah. We all but then when we go to the second movie, we see paintings and

Jim:

foot pictures of light. And that's where the the essentially, the magic of the tablet expands. I'm not saying I'm I'm more trying to find the boundaries Sure.

T.C.:

Sure. But just the notion

Jim:

the magic that's established.

T.C.:

There are there's a there's a spot in Disneyland with four screens showing old Mickey Mouse cartoons, like

Jim:

the original of single Will

T.C.:

and whatnot, getting to dive into those to be in the original animation. Like, they're they're oh god. If we go to California Adventure, I really am advertising for Disney. There's the, off the page section, which just shows montages of all the art of the animated universes that they've done since Snow White. But just the idea that we could jump into classic animation styles.

T.C.:

Mhmm. Like, they jumped in the M. C. Escher painting in the third movie, they had the styling. Or when they jumped in the black and white photo of the the sailor kissing the nurse Yeah.

T.C.:

They were in black and white. Mhmm. With Tony Motorola.

Jim:

Joey. Joe Joey Motorola. Joey Motorola. I'm on to something here.

T.C.:

Anyway, the boundaries continue.

Jim:

So yeah. So in the in the second one, it it expands in such a way that that first one, right, had a couple characters suggesting it's bringing beings to life Mhmm. That never had a historical corollary. It's it's bringing beings wholly into existence.

T.C.:

Yes. Yes. I

Jim:

see. And then the third one verifies this. It says it definitively. Lancelot never lived. You are Lancelot.

Jim:

You are a fictional being brought to life, thus you are now real.

T.C.:

Mhmm. And he was manifest with all the notions of Lancelot. He believed in Camelot. He was in love with Guinevere. Mhmm.

T.C.:

But it sort of like Buzz Light your understanding he's a toy in the end. Lancelot Sure. It gets through to him.

Jim:

Yeah. So basically, what I'm saying is I don't want to say, oh, the tablet's getting more powerful, and now it's fabricating fictional magic as well. I don't Okay. Necessarily want I could be convinced of that. That'd make things so much easier.

Jim:

But we don't have to do that. I chose Maleficent. As far as I know, she's the most evil of the the Disney villains.

T.C.:

In all the animated Disney, she's the only animated villain to ever literally, quote, call upon the powers of hell. Okay. Even the the king in dark the dark crystal not dark crystal. Sorry. Black Cauldron.

T.C.:

Black Cauldron. Doesn't even call upon hell.

Jim:

That's because if I under because that was an adaptation. If I understand well, they're they're all adaptation.

T.C.:

Yeah.

Jim:

He is, like, an embodiment of of evil. He's not the devil, but he's like The horned king. The

T.C.:

horned Yeah. But Maleficent literally calls on hell. And, honestly, having Maleficent and a female villain play the part of, like, that'd be pretty cool. No. I don't wanna cast Angelina Jolie.

T.C.:

I want the cartoon accurate Maleficent to be on the screen. Do you want Angelina Jolie to play this part?

Jim:

Sort of.

T.C.:

Oh, no.

Jim:

Sort of is a is a is a fun callback point to that. Mhmm. I wouldn't necessarily want her to be makeup ed Mhmm. Like the the live action movie was.

T.C.:

I would just want her to I'd want her to look like the animated one. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. I I want that Melissa.

Jim:

And and and she gets to be seen chewingly evil. Yes. Would would be would be what I would want to do with that character. No no redemption story. No but it but it was the the the tale was told wrong

T.C.:

or whatever. She's evil. Yeah. This is the cartoon cartoon version version Maleficent. Maleficent.

T.C.:

Yeah. Honestly, that's kind of fun. If if in this grand thing, we can can have Angelina Jolie play the manifestation of the cartoon accurate Maleficent, that's kind of a fun idea. And I know you threw a name out there. I don't know if you just chose that arbitrarily or if you were pitching her as the this was minutes ago.

Jim:

It was it was mostly just throwing one out there because because she's also seems like the type that would have the highest of ambitions. Mhmm. Right? Putting Captain Hook in charge. He he just wants to kill Pan.

Jim:

Mhmm. And then think about dominating things and stuff. Or, like, Maleficent is the the point is Maleficent also seems like the type who would be smart enough to when she when she wakes up, magic doesn't work. Yes. Magic doesn't work, but something is happening here.

Jim:

Yes. She'd be the one to zero in on that tablet as the source of the magic.

T.C.:

And grab it.

Jim:

And I will I will be the one to dominate the magic of this world and any other. Like, literally, I I could see them, like, scenes where they fall into paintings. Mhmm. And, like, or or no. Literally other animated features.

Jim:

Like, they fall into Sorcerer's Apprentice, and she's like, oh, I can feel magic, and she can do magic.

T.C.:

Oh, yeah. If she enters into the other worlds Yeah. Oh, and now you're talking have magic. That she that she is oh, I love this. Actually, I just thought of a character for this movie.

T.C.:

When the when she becomes the the the villain in a similar to the Smithsonian where she there's some other villains. You had said Captain Hook.

Jim:

Right?

T.C.:

Yeah. There is no is an animatronic Captain Hook, but there are also people in costumes that aren't animatronic. There's just people in costumes. An employee who's there late in a villain costume who is, like, just, yeah. Yeah.

T.C.:

We we gotta we gotta get them back at us.

Jim:

That's a fun that's a fun side character.

T.C.:

There's like a a character stuck with the villains because they're in costume.

Jim:

That's funny.

T.C.:

And, like and then if the actual Captain Hook shows up from the Peter Pan ride, it's like, who's that? Who's that guy? Get get them, boys.

Jim:

That's pretty good.

T.C.:

Just having this poor this poor Captain Hook cosplayer, like, costumed employee who's like, oh, man. I don't get paid enough for

Jim:

this. Yeah. Yeah. I I love that.

T.C.:

But the the idea of Maleficent grabbing some lieutenants or what have you Yeah. To but, yeah, I think the idea that the

Jim:

Like Oh. And and and it actually I think maybe one power she still has Yes. Is turning into a dragon.

T.C.:

Oh, yeah. And I just figured out a solution for this, how to do this after nightfall. Okay. So our daily family's on vacation, if you're gonna allow us to have Larry in this, but the Okay. Daily family's on vacation.

T.C.:

They they're visiting the park. We get this like, Larry's just you know, I miss the old things, and and I like the older stuff better. And that's why I worked at a museum, and and the kids are more like, no. The cool new stuff and whatnot.

Jim:

Okay. I'd I I'm I'm not I'm not in on the whole I'm an old I'm I'm an old guy who likes

T.C.:

to do so. That. It doesn't necessarily have to be that. But just creating

Jim:

him not not being aware of necessarily what's happening is Yes.

T.C.:

Is totally fine. He is made aware on day one, whatever our act one is, that there's going to be a cartoon, an animated film about Achman Ra, and they go to see the he's like, oh. And then he hears that the the London Museum and the Smith and they have sent I think he find I think he finds out when they visit the Yes. They're they're there, and they're walking up to the exhibit, and he's like, what is this? Oh, there's an animated movie of Ockman Ryan.

T.C.:

He's like, I know Ockman Ryan. He's a great guy. And then he sees this stuff, and he's like, okay. I know it's oh, and the tablet's not there because they haven't finished bringing all the stuff in. So after nightfall, aft like, he's there waiting, and he's, like, decides to stay there all night and wait till night falls, and then they don't come to life.

T.C.:

He's like, okay. Thank god. Okay. Let's let's enjoy the rest of the vacation here, guys. And then he goes on his way, and now cut to the loading dock where the last bits of the museum stuff is coming into the park, and now the tablet arrives and activates the park after hours.

Jim:

Question. Yes. Technically, the tablet was last left. Not counting I didn't haven't seen the animated ones, so don't know for

T.C.:

sure. Mhmm.

Jim:

It was left in the hands of night guard Rebel Wilson. I don't remember her name.

T.C.:

Right. But we saw at the end of three, they brought over the exhibit Yeah. And manifested them all. And she was there. And she gave it to Ricky Gervais.

Jim:

Oh, that she it was a it was a permanent giving over? I thought it was here we are visiting, and here here's the the magic of the tablet. Well, I I Yeah. Basically, do we wanna have any familiar faces show up with the tablet? Oh, like Sacagawea and and Well, I actually didn't mean any of them, but do we wanna have so I think that's that's the other problem with with problem.

Jim:

With bringing Larry is then we're gonna start expecting to see all these other faces. Oh, we're gonna get to see Larry reconnect with with Jedediah and Octavius and Attila and like like, we're gonna expect all these. And it's gonna be, like, going to see your favorite band. And if they don't play your favorite song, it'll be fun, but it'll be a disappointment. Whereas if they don't play any of the songs you know

T.C.:

Oh. Then you could just be wholly disappointed. I I okay. Let's let's go back down this road. The danger of trying to continue a franchise without your leads, it has worked, but Disney has not successfully been able to pull this off.

T.C.:

Fair. I will point to National Treasure. There's an entire National Treasure show where all they brought back were sidekick characters and not Nick Cage or Diane Kruger.

Jim:

Well, they know that that's not gonna work because it's a show. A show is not gonna take off like a movie is going to.

T.C.:

Well, with the animated movie, the last place the tablet is is in New York. And if Disney has pulled in some artifacts for their little mini museum in honor of their cartoon, we can get the tablet there.

Jim:

But I okay. Okay. I I my point and and the thing is these movies actually do do some they do how am I trying they they do it proper. There are certain points where logic says, why why is this happening? I can't recall now because it it it happened really early in the first one.

Jim:

Mhmm. They had some clever moments where a thing happens that normally would be a, why is that a thing?

T.C.:

Mhmm.

Jim:

But they justify it with a a flippant little a character doing doing something either before or right after the the thing that should not make like oh oh, the second one. Just having a locker room. There's a locker room where he steals a uniform. What? Why?

Jim:

Because we said there is. Yeah. The way the way that we justify him getting the uniform is literally by just putting locker room on a door sign on a door, having him walk through. You see a hand grab the jacket, and it's done. Yeah.

Jim:

We don't have to go any further into it. We don't have don't have to think about the logic of you're you're not you weren't wrong when I brought it up. Yes. There's gonna be there often is an employee room. Mhmm.

Jim:

But I I don't I don't know. Like like, it's it's a weird thing.

T.C.:

You're fixating at it. It's not necessary.

Jim:

And it's exemplary is what I'm it's it's an example of a type of conceit that I'm talking about, and I'm very possibly obsessing on justifying things that don't need to be. Sure. It just happens. Like, I could be all like, well, why hasn't Larry kept tabs on the the thing he clearly has through every other thing? He just hasn't.

T.C.:

The the animated movie itself, which came out several years ago at this point, Skyler's at the museum. Wouldn't he know that the tablet is being let's let's work under the the notion that barely anyone watched the animated ones. So as far as anyone's concerned Yeah. The last time we saw it, the tablet was in New York. It has been almost a decade since.

T.C.:

Yep. It's been over a decade since Disney got the tablet for the museum piece. I'm suggesting that it doesn't show up until late into the evening, so then we can manifest the characters after hours.

Jim:

And the whole and and all and and initially, what took us down this road is do we wanna bring Ricky Gervais back?

T.C.:

Oh, right.

Jim:

Right. Right. Wanna bring Rebel Wilson back? Do we wanna bring Oh. This one, I think, could be silly and fun.

Jim:

Brandon. Do we wanna bring Jonah Hill? Jonah Hill got a new job after after the job in in DC. Yeah. He got a job working at Disney.

T.C.:

He's he's the guard that brings the tablet.

Jim:

He's the night guard at Disney. Oh god. Or something like that. I Do we wanna do any of that?

T.C.:

I don't particularly wanna do that. I would like to limit the number of returning characters to probably the core ones. Like, Larry, Nikki, Octavius, Jedediah, Attila, and Sacagawea.

Jim:

See, I I don't wanna bring them in. I feel this isn't the the Egyptians. The mummies are the, I I feel, are the only ones

T.C.:

Okay. That we really

Jim:

need bringing bringing Jedediah, Octavius, Attila, and Sacagawea, and then not bringing Teddy Roosevelt when Teddy could totally already be there just by being in the Hall Of Presidents.

T.C.:

Right. There is no Hall Of Presidents at Disneyland. There's only Hall Of Presidents. Goddamn it. I only know Disney World.

T.C.:

Abraham Lincoln is at

Jim:

is in it.

T.C.:

But also yes. Okay. If we are to bring in those four, five characters, we have to acknowledge Teddy not being there because Rob Malone just passed away and having a moment to acknowledge that in canon that Teddy himself, the statue's been retired or, like Some

Jim:

something like that. Something like

T.C.:

forces to do that. I understand your point.

Jim:

And, also, why are these characters being brought to this Egyptian Right. Thing? So yes. Because there's a thing in the contract of anywhere the chant wood goes, these five people have to go. Well never mind the dinosaurs and the cavemen and

T.C.:

Not necessarily. But if we could limit it to just Jedediah and Octavius because they have taken upon as their responsibility to stay with the tablet at all times just in case. Like, they're the we're the guards

Jim:

of They're the guardians of the tablet? Yeah. You guys are three inches tall.

T.C.:

Hey. I've got I've got my right now. Say it again. Say it to my face.

Jim:

The size ain't the size doesn't mean

T.C.:

nothing. It's not the size of the man. It's the size of the heart. Yeah. Yeah.

T.C.:

You got a tiny little heart. I was like Say it again. Say it again.

Jim:

Alright. Well, fine. It's on you to justify how

T.C.:

they're they're here. I don't know. They're the guards. They're the guards. No.

T.C.:

No. I I'm I'm conceding. I know what you're saying is if we bring in one, we gotta bring another. And if we bring another, people are gonna expect more.

Jim:

Just just the little guys, I I think works without having to to justify the others. But whether they snuck into the the the the packing peanuts or whatever, that's up to you how they get there then.

T.C.:

Then if okay. So Larry, Jedidiah, and Octavius. Dexter, the monkey? Or do we have a a a new monkey? Actually, you know what?

T.C.:

Let's just add a new monkey. We don't have that. There's there's gonna be monkey on the jungle cruise that can be that can bother someone in this movie. Yeah. We don't need to bring Dexter.

T.C.:

But at at the very least, bringing Owen Wilson and Steve Coogan back. Sure. And limit it to that. So just those three well, with Nikki, four characters from the original trilogy, that's it.

Jim:

So how and why I'd okay. So they they stay as late as they can. They they stay to sundown, which they can easily do. And the rest of the family is like, on. We gotta get over to the the the parade, the the end of the day parade.

Jim:

And he's like, no. I gotta

T.C.:

I'm just gonna here. I really man, grandpa's really excited about that movie.

Jim:

And the thing is his kid well, there there's there's a reason, kids. You see, we were guards at a museum with this Oh,

T.C.:

here we go again.

Jim:

Oh, dad. Your crazy stories.

T.C.:

Actually, that might be the wrong way to go with it. Maybe the kids are perfectly aware of it. Like, maybe They'd

Jim:

be they'd be told stories,

T.C.:

but they would have never experienced it. Unless Nikki brought him to New York to if he stayed the night. That's something we have no. No. Okay.

T.C.:

Yes. Let's deal with it, like, the animated movies out

Jim:

of equation. Okay.

T.C.:

That's the the these grandkids don't know about. They've only heard stories.

Jim:

Yeah.

T.C.:

Grandpa stays at the exhibit. They are like, alright. He stays, and nothing happens at nightfall, and he's relieved. And he just kinda pats the the sarcophagus and says, alright, Ak. Looks like everything's okay.

T.C.:

Get back to New York safely. Hey. Hey. Don't touch that, buddy.

Jim:

Yeah. Can't can't touch the

T.C.:

yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then he walks away. Yeah.

T.C.:

And then we

Jim:

And then they go to the parade.

T.C.:

Everything's fine. And then we go down to the docking bay as the last of the Is being loaded. Is being loaded.

Jim:

And my thought is so they're at the they're at the parade, and the kids see something.

T.C.:

Mhmm.

Jim:

They because it's at the docking bay. It's being loaded in as the day ends.

T.C.:

Mhmm.

Jim:

So things start coming to life.

T.C.:

Yeah.

Jim:

And the the kids see a thing, and they kinda take off while the parents are

T.C.:

like, oh, look at this. Mhmm. Cool stuff.

Jim:

We're not paying attention to our children.

T.C.:

Classic Disney parents. Yep.

Jim:

Or I don't I don't like that very much because then it's like, oh, that was sure was nice. Let's going. Because I'm I'm trying to lock the I'm trying to lock Larry and and or Nikki out of the park. So we follow the kids as the as the a plot adventure. Mhmm.

Jim:

And the the parents and grandparents are the b plot. It's like, where where's Kevin? Where's where's the kids? How do we get back into the plot?

T.C.:

Home alone at it. Yeah. Well, okay. Let's let's take a moment here. We'll take our let's take our five.

T.C.:

K. And this is the thing to decide. Don't just think about it now because I wanna think about too. How many kids? How old are they?

T.C.:

That's gonna determine some elements of this story. Sure. And also, yeah, if they're locked out, what adventure do they go on trying to get back in? I like them separated. We'll eventually have to get them back together.

T.C.:

And, yeah, I I like this notion of, like, Maleficent figuring it out and grabbing that tablet and and also figuring out where she can do magic. Sure. But ultimately, what is her goal, and and how do we wrap this all up? What and what is our theme? But we'll come back to that.

T.C.:

So we're gonna take a quick little break here, folks. Here's a couple messages from our wonderful network. Real Oh, yeah.

Jim:

Quick. Is Disneyland a more than one day, like, vacation adventure

T.C.:

It can be. For a family? Yeah. So families go there multiple days because you got the hotels attached. When you come to come to Anaheim, California, you can stay at the Disney Hotel and have many magical days at both parks.

Jim:

Fair. Thank

T.C.:

you. And now that that commercial's over. Yeah. Here's some messages from our our network. Alright.

T.C.:

How many kids you think? Two. Two. Okay. I thought I was thinking three, but two's good too.

T.C.:

Well, it

Jim:

could be three, but I think only two of them are dailies. Mhmm. Because now I'm cribbing from another movie.

T.C.:

Uh-huh.

Jim:

Hocus Pocus.

T.C.:

Okay.

Jim:

A younger kid, not as young as Thora Birch was.

T.C.:

Mhmm.

Jim:

I'm thinking like oh, actually, I don't know how young she was. A 10. Like a 10 year old and like a 15 or 16

T.C.:

year old. Like a a teenager. Yeah. Like 16 year old who can drive. Oh, okay.

T.C.:

Here's a subplot. The 16 year old hasn't got their license yet. Every one of their friends has got the learner permits. I'm 16. I should be able to drive now, so that they get to drive Lightning McQueen in the movie.

T.C.:

And that's sort of like a little angsty thing about like, you wanna drive? Let's go

Jim:

to

T.C.:

Autopia. Autopia, it's not even driving. It's on a track. No. Come on.

T.C.:

You're not ready to drive yet. And so then then later in the movie, they get to race car through Disneyland on Lightning McQueen. So While Larry's driving Mater.

Jim:

So if if we do some math Yep. And these movies did if the characters are their ages when the movies came out

T.C.:

Okay. Yep.

Jim:

Nikki is 17 going on 18 in '20 '14.

T.C.:

Okay.

Jim:

If this movie comes out this year

T.C.:

Mhmm.

Jim:

12 is is oldest. Is the oldest.

T.C.:

Okay.

Jim:

11 is appropriate. Means he doesn't have the kid until he's 18.

T.C.:

Aw. You're he's in Ibiza. Yeah.

Jim:

If this movie comes out a few years from now Mhmm. Totally works. Okay. Or we we don't add a year to this movie. We do assume we do assume production starts today.

Jim:

Mhmm. So this movie isn't gonna come out for two years.

T.C.:

Right.

Jim:

Alright. That adds two more years.

T.C.:

Okay. Good.

Jim:

Good. Yep. And then we want the movie to be evergreen. We don't wanna attach a year to it. So we just don't bother saying ages.

Jim:

We don't say what year this is happening.

T.C.:

Okay.

Jim:

I think we could have a 16 year

T.C.:

old. Okay.

Jim:

What do you what do you think?

T.C.:

Yes. I do think that's the way to do it. With with the assumption that there are enough appropriate years between the third movie and this movie Mhmm. That let's even go this far. The the move let's say the movie three ends with that three year jump being 2014.

Jim:

Oh, it did say three years later.

T.C.:

To head three

Jim:

years So that so that ended oh, so you're saying the movie actually took place in 2011?

T.C.:

Yeah. Yeah. Just to give us some more time.

Jim:

Just to give us a little more time. Okay. Yeah. So that mean 2011. So that means if the movie came out right now Yeah.

Jim:

The the oldest child could be normally would be thir 14 or 15.

T.C.:

Yep. I and I I'm thinking that's probably the appropriate age because if we're gonna make children our main characters

Jim:

Yeah.

T.C.:

Then that's our target audience. Yeah. And so my memory of the ninth museum movies, my nephew and nieces loved those movies, and they were about nine or 10 when those movies were, like, at the Okay. They were watching them on repeat as I babysat them. So having a 10 year old character with a 15 year old, 16 year old character, that that's probably the right demographic for this fun family adventure.

T.C.:

Yeah. What meanwhile, we have dad and grandpa. We sort of have the whole families involved here. And and Dick Van Dyke, a 100

Jim:

year And Dick Van Dyke.

T.C.:

Yeah. 100 year olds can come enjoy this movie.

Jim:

Yes. They can.

T.C.:

Oh, god. I love Dick Van Dyke so much. Honestly, like, get like, this is what I wanna happen in the movie. At some point, when they're jumping in and out of worlds Uh-huh. Like, portals.

T.C.:

Disneyland's already got all these worlds, but allowing them to especially because Maleficent figures out she has magic in fictional places.

Jim:

Mhmm.

T.C.:

Like, if they going through screens allows her to utilize magic. Right? They go into Mary Poppins at some point so that we can see Dick Van Dyke in this movie, without having to get a 100 year old man. I mean, he probably would do it. Also, I just don't wanna jinx the entire universe right now by talking about him so much, and he's gonna pass away before this airs.

T.C.:

Okay? Dave Van Dyke is one of my heroes. I don't wanna do that, but I've said enough.

Jim:

Okay. So so we were we were trying to contrive how the kids become our main characters Mhmm. Without our adult characters who know what's going on kind of taking over.

T.C.:

I have an idea.

Jim:

I had I had a potential a different you sound real confident with yours, so we're probably gonna go with that. But it was

T.C.:

It just came to me as I said the words I have an idea.

Jim:

What if what if it what if we don't even try to contrive all of that? What if while the parade's happening, like, happens real fast, Maleficent comes alive, figures this stuff out. Yeah. And it's it there's no mystery. There's no secret hiding anything.

Jim:

Maleficent like, the parade ends with Maleficent coming out and saying, I'm I'm here. Get out. Get out

T.C.:

of my part. My kingdom, and everyone's like, yeah.

Jim:

Yeah. Something like that.

T.C.:

And she tries to blast them, and nothing happens.

Jim:

Like that. And so, like, she literally closes the gates and and and causes this to happen.

T.C.:

And and no one cares? Like, the employees don't care?

Jim:

You're bringing that's too much too much logic.

T.C.:

Too much logic. Okay.

Jim:

Yeah. None of the other museum employees knew or cared about anything. The mess, it was the night guardsmen's problem.

T.C.:

Let's let's also try this. Okay. I'm gonna throw some ideas out here, and let's see if we can use any of these. Go

Jim:

ahead. I was also trying to have it all happen on that first night.

T.C.:

Yes. I don't which is why

Jim:

the the my question right before the end was a part of it. Yeah. It could be the next the next day or

T.C.:

night or whatever. You're you're kinda reading my mind right here. The tablet shows up in the underground facilities or whatnot, and only only echoes a few people to life, like Maleficent being one of them or what have you. Like, if in the loading bay, which isn't inherently connected to the park like, whatever. It's just it doesn't activate the entire park.

T.C.:

It, it just activates the the storage area that she is in because they're she's not out in the park.

Jim:

Because it's, when it was put into storage, the the keys the the the the turny bits Mhmm. Were turned wrong.

T.C.:

Yeah. And and so when it activates and she goes up to the parade and she's like, be gone. And it doesn't work, she's like, what is happening? Everyone's like, yay.

Jim:

And they all usher out of the park.

T.C.:

And she's like, this is madness. She retreats in confusion, and maybe the dailies have a moment of like, what's that? It's it's all part of the show. It's all part of the Disney fun. Right?

T.C.:

Yeah. No no no red flags yet, And that allows the sun to rise and set again to give us a second day. Because I think the second movie works fine. It's all taking place in one night. And the third one all takes place in one night, but the first one takes place in three nights.

Jim:

Mhmm.

T.C.:

Were you trying to think out of a way for this to take multiple nights?

Jim:

Not not necessarily. Okay. I I would initially was trying to figure out how to make it play take place in one night

T.C.:

Okay.

Jim:

Or at least start with one night. Okay.

T.C.:

Then my my contrivance of of slow activation on it.

Jim:

Slow activation is probably better. I don't know why everything wouldn't come alive. Like, I don't know why everything wouldn't come to life immediately.

T.C.:

If okay. Let's try this. The the tablet's activated.

Jim:

If if anything, we we're given a small explanation in the third one of their first time coming to life as a confusing time

T.C.:

Mhmm.

Jim:

And not everyone is is on the up and up. They're apparently a little creepy. Yeah. That's literally what they said is they walked through the silent statues

T.C.:

Mhmm.

Jim:

Without limbs. But but but but but but So maybe that's mostly what happens that first night with Maleficent being, like like, one of the the one of her her statues or maquettes or whatever is down in storage where it's first brought in. And that's like it Yeah. To to do your proximity It's being repaired.

T.C.:

She's down in repair. Something like that. There there's even a But Yeah.

Jim:

I think there's another I think we need to have more character. Like, you were saying then the family is all like and and I I just I'm not crazy about the dailies. They're fine. They're still our main characters. We need a couple more side characters, I think.

Jim:

You you you mentioned the one character actor.

T.C.:

The Captain Hook employee who's sitting

Jim:

in this. Think there is a security Disney security guard who notices, who thinks it's weird. And either they are backstage and they see, like, they start seeing things moving, and they're like Oh. Something like that, and they don't wanna get in trouble so they don't say anything or or something like that. Or somebody sees Maleficent at the end at the end of that first night is like, who's the who's walking that that that Maleficent character around?

Jim:

Yeah. No no no one knows.

T.C.:

I think we have a rogue guest rogue guest in costume rogue guest in costume.

Jim:

Yeah. Something something like that. Rogue rogue cosplay.

T.C.:

Rogue cosplay. I don't know. Something like that? We have a we let's have a night guard that is a weirdo. It's

Jim:

it's

T.C.:

a night guard that no one that everyone else is like, oh god. This the this night guard believes the whole cats are controlling the rodent problem in this park. This this night guard's a little

Jim:

A real a real Disney conspiracy head?

T.C.:

Yeah. A real kooky kooky Disney like, just loves like, knows everything, loves everything, and everyone's

Jim:

He knows where all the hidden Mickeys are. He believes the the frozen head conspiracies.

T.C.:

We'll have to see what Disney will allow us to do. But, yeah, having some sort of kooky night guard is the one who's like, I swear, everything came to life, like, for a moment, then it stopped. Okay. Okay. Get back out there.

T.C.:

Go go wrangle the cats. Yeah. Ugh. You guys are jerks. Could that could be a night a character, our night our our night guard who is responsible.

T.C.:

You know what? They're probably there's three night guards in the original New York Museum that they replaced with just one guy. Yeah. And there never seems to be a replacement for Larry in the second one.

Jim:

Well, in the not not just that, but there yeah. In the second one, there's there's no one, and they just let this guy who used to be an employee stay overnight. In In in in DC, there are two guards Yes. One during the day, and he stands outside one exhibit Yes. And then one guy who's watching a camera Yeah.

T.C.:

To open a door. And so in our logic of the universe, there is a guard at for Disney at night. Yep. And there is a guard for California Adventure. Sure.

T.C.:

They don't like each other.

Jim:

Of course. Yeah.

T.C.:

The Disneyland guard, he believes in all the weird cat things. He believes the Frozen head thing. Don't don't Google it. We literally named the movie Frozen, so if you looked it up, it won't come up anymore.

Jim:

Shoot. That's that was the whole reason

T.C.:

for that movie. Reason for the whole movie for that. You let it go. Let go of that conspiracy theory.

Jim:

Yeah. Why did they do it? I'll give you 2,000,000,000 reasons.

T.C.:

Shoot. Now I brought it up, and people are gonna Google it again. Don't Google it. And then later, a talking Futurama Disney head. No.

T.C.:

Don't do that. Okay. I have another character we can add into the mix here.

Jim:

Okay.

T.C.:

You're gonna hate this. An employee who is a young first job employee who takes a shine to the teenage kid of the

Jim:

That that's what honestly what I was when I said hocus pocus Yeah. I said, I want there to be two dailies

T.C.:

And then a but I

Jim:

figured the teenager was was was liked Yeah. Someone else.

T.C.:

And that teenager's like, hey, come into the park after hours. I can get you in. I Sure. Yeah. Like, if if you're gonna be here for how many days are you staying at this beautiful hotel here in Anaheim, California?

T.C.:

Such a reasonable rate.

Jim:

This this is this is another thing movies do that that I mentioned, like, at the beginning of the very first movie Mhmm. He's getting evicted. Yeah. And and, like, they play it off like, oh, it's no big deal. Yeah.

Jim:

And it's a thing a lot of movies do, these big life changing events. So they're they're just they're just character foibles of a main character. I'll get over it.

T.C.:

Bankruptcy. You owe me eighteen months of rent. I'm gonna kick you out of here.

Jim:

Yeah. And it's always treated as just like, mop. And, honestly, this kind of thing is the same thing. A teenager or a kid sneaking out to go, like, that's such a movie thing. And and I'm sure it has happened in real life.

Jim:

Mhmm. I feel like if that happens in a big city or if that happens while you're on vacation with your family

T.C.:

Uh-huh.

Jim:

That's a nightmare. That is a in real life Jim. Jim. Nightmare. Jim.

T.C.:

I was off running around hotels as a teenager.

Jim:

So was I, but that was the nineties. It was a different time.

T.C.:

That's true. Our parents didn't care. Just be home. Just get home. But

Jim:

and actually, when I went out, it it wasn't sneaking out. I never had to sneak out.

T.C.:

I was like, I'm going down to the watch the I'm going to down to watch the fireworks.

Jim:

Take your sister. Okay. A family on vacation in like, I fine. That's the we can we can do that for the conceit. Like, it's yep.

Jim:

This is what characters in movies do.

T.C.:

If night if again, you were trying to think of a way for this to happen all in one night. Right?

Jim:

Sure. It and it doesn't it doesn't have to.

T.C.:

I'm I think I'm okay with it being a a one night single night adventure. If these sort of shenanigans in Disneyland went on for multiple nights, it there's only so much logic we can stretch here. So if it's a

Jim:

I I think I think we can get I think we can get at least two nights out

T.C.:

of I have an idea for a

Jim:

second, Nick. Because that first night

T.C.:

is Yes.

Jim:

We get to see the the guard Mhmm. Freak out. Mhmm. We get to establish the employee likes the girls, so they trade numbers or something. Then the next night yeah.

Jim:

It could be something like that.

T.C.:

I could I I can even get okay. So the first night Maleficent, only a few things activate, and then the tablet gets shut off. Like, even even if she's activated and it's like, oh, get out of here. And then someone's like, hey. What's this?

T.C.:

And then puts it like, turns the dial on it to turn the tablet off.

Jim:

You know, we have it. The I think the easy conceit to change Mhmm. The rules of the the tablet the way we need Yeah. Ackman Ackman? Ack Akum

T.C.:

Ackman Ra.

Jim:

Ackman Ra? Yeah. Ackman Ra does it.

T.C.:

Turns it off.

Jim:

After the third one, he has learned more from his dad.

T.C.:

So he

Jim:

So literally, they everything starts waking up for a moment. Yeah. He does reaches over, turns something in the tablet

T.C.:

And turns it off.

Jim:

And everything goes back to sleep. Great. What do you what

T.C.:

do you think about that? I love it. Because then we can get a moment of I think we can still get Malefic ent going, leave my kingdom. Why the who let them why is the Maleficent animatronic out again? I do like the idea of a rogue cosplay.

T.C.:

Rogue cosplay. And then oh, and then they find like, oh, okay. We got a rogue cosplay. And then they find her, and it's just the animatronic. Sure.

T.C.:

Wasn't an it's not a cosplay.

Jim:

Shouldn't be out here. Who put it out here? Yeah. Who cares? Just get it back in storage.

T.C.:

So the next night, the tablet's activated again. Now we have a a true

Jim:

knight. Everything starts activating. Mhmm. We can even do a a not quite a a Shaun of the Dead mirror sequence Mhmm. But something similar.

Jim:

Achm Achmene Ra reaches over goes to his tablet to to to turn it off again.

T.C.:

Yeah.

Jim:

And before right right as he does, Maleficent puts her hand right over it Yeah. And and and, like like, zoom in on her face, cut away. Yeah. And everything's still going. We don't have to show how or what she does to tie him up or whatever.

Jim:

Just she's taking control.

T.C.:

And and if we can have some sort of Disney's closing the park early for an event kind of thing, maybe that puts a ticking clock on solving this before the big thing, which is how we can get people out of the park before nightfall. I have a way to get us a third night. On the second night, when everything's going crazy and the kids get in, Maleficent figures out how to have magic is to enter through portals to go to places that have magic. If the kids get in there are, like, in one of the worlds, one of the paintings or one of the movies, when the sun comes up, they're stuck in there until nightfall. So the kids go missing after night two.

T.C.:

Nope. You've damseled my main characters. Okay. That's fine. Maybe we can put

Jim:

Well, be well, right, because I wanted to damsel or or or sideline Larry

T.C.:

Maybe they get stuck then. But what if to get a third night, and if not our kids, then our adults could get trapped in paintings in in the action of night two. So now it's up to the kids to save mom and dad and grandpa and grandma and stop the villain. Instead of having them trapped outside the park, having them trapped inside of a world.

Jim:

I think that pacing actually is better because Larry Larry would try to take control immediate it it gets it moves our timeline up better in a better way.

T.C.:

Okay.

Jim:

Because it'd be like, he would recognize, oh, no. This is happening. We gotta get back to

T.C.:

the tablet. He does the house.

Jim:

Have to stop it. I know

T.C.:

what to do. Yeah. He does his twirl his twirl with the twirl flashlight.

Jim:

His glowing flashlight, heads over there to do it, gets knocked into a painting.

T.C.:

Yeah. And Maleficent traps him. Turn turns the painting around. Yeah. Boom.

T.C.:

Boom. Takes care of that.

Jim:

Something like something like that. And then and even if that is the first night, the kids could basically just they have to run away Mhmm. For that first night. Everything freezes at dawn. Yep.

Jim:

Our our our guard character

T.C.:

I I think I think first night is a brief glimpse of the park coming to life. End it there. Sun up. They spend the day at the park again. The night fall happens, and the real night the second night is when the whole park comes to life.

T.C.:

That's when Larry takes control. He gets they confront the villain, shoved into a painting, flip the painting. Now Larry's trapped inside. The kids spend the second night fleeing, running, getting mixed up with there's the Pirates of the Caribbean. There's the Guardians of the Galaxy.

T.C.:

Oh, we can actually have the Guardians of like, the actual actors cameo in this. If they're all if we could if we could get all of them to come back in Guardians of the Galaxy, there's holograms of Zoe Saldanha and Chris Pratt and and Dave Bautista.

Jim:

That could be fun. I am less interested in the, quote, unquote, licensed stuff, the the the the Star Wars Marvel. I know that is all Disney proper now. Sure. But I I I maybe this is me being an old fashioned Larry, but I wanna stick more to the the Disney original Disney classic.

T.C.:

Okay. So, like, the Abomino snowman on on So, like, one or two Manorhorn. Yeah.

Jim:

Yeah. One or two fun Star Wars or or Marvel

T.C.:

Yeah. Cameos. I I think one of the faults of the second one is spending too much time going, look at that. Oh, look at that. Look at that.

T.C.:

Look at that. As opposed to focusing more on the nature of the adventure. So, yes, I'm in agreement. We don't need it. We the Guardians of Galaxy aren't in this.

T.C.:

It was just a a brief idea. But night two happens, and they are it's a mess. The sun comes up, and then we're gonna go into night three. If Maleficent is, like, right as night two is ending, his is figuring out some way to, I can some sort of magic in the real world. Like, she's a she's building up enough awareness to go, if I do this, maybe she has, maybe she's holding, Ak captive to say, explain to me how how this works.

T.C.:

I know there's more magic here. You're not telling me. And and if I can make this work, then I can take over all of Anaheim.

Jim:

I think she I'd rather than I think she should already just be deciphering it. She's she's she's able to read the magic. She she can just she looks at the tablet and and and, like, is just like, ah, I see. And and just starts absorbing it absorbing it like that.

T.C.:

So then daylight comes just before she solves the she's like, if I do this, I will be and then the sun rises, and she's she's inanimate again. And now the kids have one final day to prepare for the last night at the park where they have to stop the villain, save their family, and save the park, and thus save the world.

Jim:

Mostly? Sure. Okay.

T.C.:

Yeah. Yes. Okay.

Jim:

We got our skeleton. We gotta put some night night at the premise on this now.

T.C.:

Okay.

Jim:

In which you were trying to do when I was poo pooing. You were trying to bring in Star Wars and Marvel characters.

T.C.:

That's right.

Jim:

That's we have Maleficent. I want I really wanna bring in small world characters.

T.C.:

Oh, for sure.

Jim:

And I think those are our little characters.

T.C.:

Uh-huh.

Jim:

Or or do you think apparel, like like action figures and and and posh No. Things should should be the

T.C.:

I know the bobbleheads of the Einstein's And came to if we if we adhere to that logic, there's All of

Jim:

the toys come to life.

T.C.:

Millions of toys that come to life. I like the idea of keeping it limited to the Unless

Jim:

is that the is that the deus ex? Is that how they finally take down Maleficent? She's like, I could stop all I could stop a 100 of you. And right right then, like, could you stop a million of us?

T.C.:

Guess it's not a small world after all.

Jim:

And just like waves of toys overwhelm Maleficent and her newfound magic.

T.C.:

They're not wrong, mate. We're coming for you. Like, just everything in the park comes after her.

Jim:

Like that?

T.C.:

Oh my god. What's the what's so amazing toys. I don't even you did not do this on purpose. Disneyland is Sleeping Beauty's Castle. Not Oh, yeah.

T.C.:

Cinderella's castle is in in Florida. Oh, okay. This is Sleeping Beauty's castle. So our final battle where she becomes a dragon Mhmm. Taking place on the Castle Of Sleeping Beauty is our final set piece here.

T.C.:

Sure. And having having the battle of Disneyland happening in that courtyard on the bridge, and she's like, and oh, right by King Arthur's carousel is Excalibur. It's or the sword of the stone. Sure. It's made that you can almost lift it out.

T.C.:

Uh-huh. But if if our main character can literally draw the sword from the stone Of course. Now we have our

Jim:

final The 10 year old.

T.C.:

Of The 10. Like, maybe that's, like, early in the movie to to create some foreshadowing if everyone tries

Jim:

to, Having Ben Stiller do his Yeah. His his mugging as he tries to lift.

T.C.:

I'm go. I'm go like this. It's all on the hips. Come on. Grandpa, you can.

T.C.:

It's not meant to come out. And and maybe maybe, like

Jim:

Step step aside, dad. Let me and then Yeah. No. That's in there.

T.C.:

Nikki's Nikki's doing it, and then maybe the the little kid is too scared to try. Or or if they all lift it out together, like the the power of family pulls the sword from the stone, and now we have a sword to fight the dragon with. Sure. Oh, that's cool.

Jim:

So what but, again, we haven't we haven't knighted the premise this yet. We haven't chosen our wax figures that have come to life. We got Maleficent. Yeah. We got Small World and or all the toys.

Jim:

Mhmm.

T.C.:

Johnny Depp's back.

Jim:

Johnny Depp. Okay. Okay.

T.C.:

We have the pirates like all the

Jim:

pirates. Jack Sparrow? Yeah. No. No.

Jim:

I'd like yes. Those are those are all stuff that's in the background. I'm saying we need our Sacajawea, our our Teddy. Teddy, our

T.C.:

I see. I see.

Jim:

Attila. We need we need our our our main ones. Right? We don't have a Rexie. Yeah.

T.C.:

Okay. So the having having Jack Sparrow be be one of these characters, because they they have Sure. Tiana from Princess and the Frog is like, that's the new Splash Mountain that they have is that they replaced it with the facade of of Princess and the Frog. Okay. Or we have all of Zoe Saldanha's characters from the Fox from the from the Disney Pantheon of characters.

T.C.:

So we have Gamora. We have Nateri. We have her character from Pirates of the Caribbean. Do you do you have anyone in mind?

Jim:

No. I was I was just I was I was hope like, if we could find almost the archetype Mhmm. Archetypes to then fill in.

T.C.:

Mhmm.

Jim:

Right? Like, somebody to be the sage kind of character. Oh. Like Teddy was to Larry. Okay.

T.C.:

Who could that be for the kids? Well, let me think here. So on Main Street, there's Abraham Lincoln is in the the great moments of mister Lincoln is the attraction. There's the then you go to Venture Land. There's

Jim:

You know what? Sure. If especially if we do him, he can have a we can do a callback like Oh, press it. Where the dailies. Oh, I remember your dad.

T.C.:

Yeah.

Jim:

I I what he did he did he did he kick the birds?

T.C.:

What did what did he do? The statue of Abraham Lincoln.

Jim:

I know. But they also they established that every iteration of a character is the same character because Teddy appears in the bust.

T.C.:

Yeah. And he's mad at the Teddy that exists in in New York.

Jim:

Oh, was he?

T.C.:

I bet your Teddy has

Jim:

all his arms and legs. Oh, I miss I miss I miss that I miss that line. Okay. So it is different.

T.C.:

But why not have Abraham Lincoln be involved? And we Sure. To be Teddy Roosevelt type character. Okay. Honest a being and having him, like, roll up his sleeve and be like, I'm gonna give you what for, fella?

T.C.:

That's not how Abraham Lincoln talked.

Jim:

What two characters like each other Mhmm. Are are lovers, essentially. Right? This wrapped Teddy as the sage as well as Mhmm. A lover.

T.C.:

Let's see. Jungle Cruise. So if we go to Adventureland, there's Jungle Cruise. Indiana Jones Adventure is is there, so we could have we could have Indiana Jones played not by Harrison Ford. Yeah.

T.C.:

And the tree house has the cheetah. Actually, they took the cheetah away. I was trying to think of an animal, like, a character that we could use. I I like Abraham Lincoln as a character. Mhmm.

T.C.:

That's usable. Indiana Jones as a character, possibly. I'm just gonna list the ones that are, like, key figures. If you go to New Orleans, there New Orleans, there's Pirates of The Caribbean. Mhmm.

T.C.:

So Jack Sparrow or any one of the pirates. Yep. Red is there. I know we've we've we've lionized Red in our hearts.

Jim:

We have well, we've decided who she was based on our Pirates of the Caribbean movie. Mhmm. There's no reason she couldn't be the character that comes to life and helps these kids.

T.C.:

Well, in in Pirates of the Caribbean the ride, Red used to be the the last hooker being sold. Yeah. Now she's the run one running the auction, and they took the animatronic and rebuilt her. Yeah. So it's literally the same animatronic.

T.C.:

Haunted Mansion has some grim and grimy ghosts to play with. Mhmm. Madame Leota's there, so we have a sage like character in the crystal ball who might have a way to describe

Jim:

I I want to weird this is gonna be weird to say because so many of them are are movie characters. I wanna avoid characters that are in other movies.

T.C.:

Okay. Okay.

Jim:

So not know I know that's

T.C.:

near Sparrow. You don't wanna use Jack

Jim:

Sparrow. I'm okay with Jack. Right? Especially because Johnny Depp said, at least at one point, he is willing to play that character forever. So letting him play a living animatronic version of his character, I think, could be fun.

T.C.:

Yeah. And he's not and he's not he played a cameo in 21 Jump Street. Like, he is willing to do it for the fun of it. Mhmm. And I'd love to see Johnny Depp back out there doing it.

T.C.:

Tiana's Bayou is taking over Splash Mountain. There's the mini adventure Winnie the Pooh. Let's see. Frontierland. Frontierland.

T.C.:

There's Thunder Mountain Railroad. No characters there. Mark Twain's Riverboat doesn't have an animatronic, just a host. Disneyland proper has Peter Pan, Alice in Wonderland, Snow White, mister Toad, mister Toad. Sure.

Jim:

Sure. That'd be fun.

T.C.:

What else? Pinocchio, the carousel has all the horses on it. King Arthur's Carousel, the Tea Party, no animatronics there. Dumbo's flying adventure.

Jim:

Is there is there a big Figaro?

T.C.:

Like a big cat? No. A big cat. No. Figaro from Pinocchio.

Jim:

Yeah. Yeah.

T.C.:

Figaro was No. But there's Monstro.

Jim:

Monstro is not Figaro.

T.C.:

Monstro is fully Dinah was the cat. Yeah. Nope. Figaro is the cat. Cleo is the fish.

T.C.:

Monstro is the whale. What? Dinah is the kitty in Alice in Wonderland. Oh. Yep.

T.C.:

But we have a giant Monstro. He's the entrance to the boat ride.

Jim:

Great.

T.C.:

Yeah. And then we have, of course, have small world.

Jim:

So mon Monstro can be can be our living dinosaur.

T.C.:

Ra ra. Just this big.

Jim:

Right? And is all upset until they can get him into

T.C.:

Plus, we have Dumbo. We have all the Dumbo.

Jim:

To to splash around.

T.C.:

We have all the Dumbo's. Sure.

Jim:

So, like That could be fun.

T.C.:

A bunch of Dumbos who are like, there's they spin around. That's a spinning flying ride.

Jim:

So these are all fun things that come to life. Yeah. And and and you are you're doing what you say, naming characters, trying to find ones to plug in. Mhmm. So if Jack Sparrow is our sage, I don't know what two care what two animatronics have been pining for each other across the park and are now given the opportunity.

T.C.:

Okay. That's that's a fair question. Buzz Lightyear has Astro Blasters, so we do have Sure. Buzz Lightyear to play with as well. And plus, there's a Star War Star Tours has c three p o and r two d two, if we

Jim:

wanna Yeah. They can fall in

T.C.:

love. Yeah. But okay. Say let's let's have Attila is our muscle. Sacagawea is our Love interest.

T.C.:

Love interest, and and she's quite smart. She's the tracker of the group. And then Teddy is

Jim:

She spends half the movie behind glass where she can't do anything.

T.C.:

I know. But they utilize her as a tracker by the end of it. Yeah.

Jim:

And

T.C.:

having okay. So Teddy and then Octavius and Jedediah are sort of comic relief b plot characters and Dexter the monkey. So if we have Dumbo and Dumbo's and Monstro as our Rex big animal equivalents to deal with, if mister Lincoln is there. Okay. I'll throw it out.

T.C.:

There's a suggestion. I know Abraham Lincoln is married to Mary Mary Todd Lincoln. Abraham Lincoln. Yeah. You know?

T.C.:

Right. But do you have is there any I'm just gonna throw it out as a suggestion. Tiana's over here. We have a beautiful New Orleans, a black princess.

Jim:

Uh-huh.

T.C.:

The the Falling in love with with a old president. He could be a young man who's in love with a young woman of color. But that might break the well, no. Teddy Roosevelt had a wife, but he was in love with Sacagawea. So maybe the the awareness that I'm that they are they have all the the spirit and memories of of their their characters, but Sure.

T.C.:

Have their own identities Sure. Mister Lincoln could be in love with Tiana. Sure. I don't know. Something.

T.C.:

Yeah. Hit it. And then Jack could keep hitting on her. And she takes no guff.

Jim:

Is there a villain that would could be villainous but could be won over?

T.C.:

Yes. Kylo Ren is in the Star Wars land. There's actually quite a few animatronics in Star Wars. We got we got Hondo Tanaka Tanaka Han Kylo

Jim:

is here. We'll do we'll do Kylo Ren. Why can't I remember who Kylo Ren is?

T.C.:

Driver? Kylo. Oh, Derp.

Jim:

Yeah. I kept I kept seeing Django Fett.

T.C.:

And I'm

Jim:

like, no. Not okay. It's Kylo Ren. Kylo Ren is so rather than having so he'll be our Attila role.

T.C.:

Mhmm.

Jim:

And there's maybe maybe it's too on the nose because it's what his character does. He sides with Maleficent Mhmm.

T.C.:

At first. Yeah.

Jim:

And then by the end, he sees everything that's happening, so he turns and helps defeat Maleficent.

T.C.:

I like that. Okay. It's kinda fun. And and that he'd have his plastic lightsaber, but treat it like it's an actual lightsaber. Sure.

T.C.:

Because as far as, like, villainous characters within the rides yes. Rise of the resistance would Kylo's there, so is Hux. There's there's a bunch of of Kylo specifically has an animatronic, though, so there's some holograms as well. But I don't think holograms are usable in in our Night at the Park scenario here. There has to be Yeah.

T.C.:

Actual animate objects.

Jim:

Quite literally in the in the night at the museum world Mhmm. Holograms were going to replace the four count characters.

T.C.:

On the Matterhorn, I was suggesting earlier, there's yetis. Oh, sure. There's giant lots

Jim:

of yetis. The I the yetis being a part of this.

T.C.:

She like, Malefsin could have them as her, basically Sure. Stooges, lapdogs, like, Yeah. Like Yeah. That's her guards as the yetis from Mhmm. From the Matterhorn.

T.C.:

Matterhorn. First time I went to Disneyland, I lost my head on the Matterhorn. So sad.

Jim:

Who is there anyone else?

T.C.:

As far as It was it was

Jim:

Saxuya, Teddy, Attila the Hun. Dexter. Monkey. The monkey. Yeah.

Jim:

And the two tiny guys?

T.C.:

Mhmm.

Jim:

That was it for supporting cast?

T.C.:

Well, you said Attila?

Jim:

Of of that first movie?

T.C.:

Teddy, Attila, Sacagawea Mhmm. Jedediah, Octavius, Dexter. Rex the Rex the

Jim:

Okay.

T.C.:

Dog T. Rex.

Jim:

Yeah. And and it's the other movies that add more characters. Mhmm. Okay. Then then, yeah, I think I think

T.C.:

And we have Akkazen here as well, basically being

Jim:

Yeah.

T.C.:

Like, trying to do the right thing, being That's true. Being held captive by Maleficent. Mhmm. Being held by at bay by the actual magic tablet. Mhmm.

T.C.:

Like, she is the first thing she figures out is sort of, like, real simple spell stuff of, no, you're gonna stay right there. Sure.

Jim:

I'm tripped. I mean, I I I know you plotted out the three knights. I'm I'm that that that's fine. What that second knight, one thing she could figure out is and this this could the knight, our our night watchman character can figure out, she figures out how to use the magic to switch to switch stuff. She so she starts turning someone else into wax, into animatronic.

Jim:

Yeah. Yeah. And she's right? Like, I'm gonna make you this thing with this curse, and I'm gonna take your flesh.

T.C.:

Your flesh. Yeah.

Jim:

That's kinda funny. Make it myself.

T.C.:

Yeah. Yeah. That's a fun idea. And she's turning I because Ach is So it could even be

Jim:

there could even be employees that that go missing because they've been turned into animatronics or statues or whatever.

T.C.:

Yeah. Limiting it to Disneyland and having having California Adventure not be affected by this and having that second guard at California Adventure being, like, annoyed by our guard character in Disneyland. Because everything we've been describing is all Disneyland. Yeah. It's funny because I was

Jim:

like, no. We could use both parks.

T.C.:

But now well, mostly because I wanted to see our if our character gets to drive Lightning McQueen, maybe that's a to drive. Like, I

Jim:

Sure. Yeah. No. That it was a good it was a good subplot for for that character. There's no reason that in the the full script, we couldn't reach over there.

Jim:

I don't necessarily know it well enough. And and at this point, like, you are pointing out lots of awesome things that could come to life.

T.C.:

Mhmm.

Jim:

And I feel like the roles have been reversed normally. I'm the one just kinda spouting 80,000,000 things, and you're like, we need to bring it in. Yeah. We need to make we need to get get we got we can only tell one story here. We only

T.C.:

have so many minutes.

Jim:

Yeah. And so I feel like I'm the one trying to do, like, no. I don't care that there's all these those are cool. They're not characters to tell to to to arc in this story. Okay.

Jim:

We And so I so I think we have the characters. What what was I gonna oh, I and and and now I yeah. We I like I I like that for she figures out how to use this Egyptian magic

T.C.:

Mhmm.

Jim:

To steal to steal the life. She's making herself real.

T.C.:

Yeah. And the more life she drains from people, the more real she comes. She is. By tomorrow by tomorrow night, I shall be made fully flesh. Yeah.

T.C.:

And this world will be mine. And then then it, like, happens. Or the sun comes up as she's like Yeah. And now they have one day left to to figure this out.

Jim:

Something like yeah. And find their parents and

T.C.:

Mhmm. Yeah. And they do. Okay. So let's if if let's see if we can speed through just describing the plot one last time.

T.C.:

Yep. The daily like, the daily vacation. Go

Jim:

to Disneyland.

T.C.:

Disneyland. Oh, turns out there's an exhibit for their new animated movie, which is about the Egyptian pharaohs and Achman Ra. Larry is concerned that they're all gonna come to life. Yeah. Doesn't happen.

T.C.:

That night, the last of the stuff comes in. The tablet is set is pulled out and set right. It activates Maleficent and sort of ripples enough that a couple things are activated. She goes to the parade to be like, leave our kingdom. And then then the tablet is set right again, and she's deactivated.

T.C.:

We have our dailies are, oh, that was fun. And our cookie guard who is like, we got a we got a rogue cosplayer. But it's not. It's just animatronic. But what is that doing up here?

T.C.:

Let's get it back down into storage. Our teenage character needs a a teenage equivalent to invite them to spend some time there. Come find me tomorrow.

Jim:

I'll sneak you behind the scenes.

T.C.:

Yeah. And then spend then the next day comes. They spend the day at the park. As night falls and the there are special events at Disney where it's it's it's like a VIP only kind So of the park is cleared out after the fireworks as night falls or what have you, and that's when Maleficent returns. And now it's her night to truly attack the park as the park comes to life.

T.C.:

Larry is like, I know what this is. Nikki's like, I know what this is too. Let's go. We know how to oh, no. We're sidelined.

Jim:

Yeah.

T.C.:

Shoved into a painting. Yeah. Paintings turned around.

Jim:

Alright. I I just because I my brain needs to know. It is shut down for a special event. Some gajillionaire

T.C.:

Yeah.

Jim:

Has has closed the park for a private event. Mhmm. Like, twenty, thirty people are having dinner at Pirates of

T.C.:

the Caribbean. When it comes to life.

Jim:

It comes to life. The pirates take them hostage. Yeah. And Maleficent turns them all into statues.

T.C.:

Our first group.

Jim:

Yeah. Way, at dawn, even though there should be a bunch of employees, all of these people are gone, but nobody's any wiser any the wiser.

T.C.:

Night night at the museum logic. Yep. The kids individually have their favorite attractions. Maybe there are maybe maybe even, like, Larry's, no. We gotta go to God, this feels mister Lincoln.

T.C.:

This feels like such an advertisement. Oh, boy.

Jim:

It's fine.

T.C.:

It's fine. But anyway, once the the second night happens, all the their favorites or the things that they had the mister Lincoln No.

Jim:

I don't think it needs to be all their favorites. Well I I I feel like that's

T.C.:

Okay. Not their favorites, but those key places they have visited, because we need to make sure these characters are a part of the story. The Okay. Our our our team Sure. Right?

T.C.:

Our our inanimate Yeah. Yeah.

Jim:

We you're you're right. We do have to hit the beats that that introduce us to the characters.

T.C.:

So that when the park goes wild, and the parents are curbed, and now the kids are trapped in here, the first thing that happens, they are rescued by one of our our brought to life heroes, and the team is team is formed on the run so that, our second night is full of danger and excitement. And we have our kids plus our employee, and our guard characters is b plotting it around so that they can all meet up eventually. Mhmm. And Maleficent is figuring out on this second night. Okay.

T.C.:

I can draw this power. I can I can draw this flesh from people, and I will be made flesh by next by tomorrow night? End of the night happens. We're moving into our third night. Sure.

T.C.:

The kids make a game plan. They reunite when sun sets with who who do we decide is our our team? We have our two kids.

Jim:

It's it's Abe Lincoln, T. Tiana, and

T.C.:

Jack Okay.

Jim:

And and mister frog. And mister frog. Yes. Or

T.C.:

mister toad.

Jim:

Toad. And

T.C.:

then the the the third knight, Maleficent is evil. Oh, you had suggested that Kylo is her right hand man

Jim:

of sorts. I I think she would actually have two or three. Yeah. Right? Or right?

Jim:

So you said the Abominable Snowman Mhmm. Kylo Ren, and someone else. Mhmm. Captain Hook was who I initially said.

T.C.:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Because we have our maybe we have too many characters at this point, but a all the villains are gathered Yeah. Including one employee who's like,

Jim:

Yar. But right. I'm I was thinking how this the second one brought in Capone it had Yeah. Hank Azaria as the main villain

T.C.:

Mhmm.

Jim:

Who had his own henchmen

T.C.:

Yeah.

Jim:

And then each Christopher Guest as

T.C.:

Ivan Terrible.

Jim:

Al Capone An employee. And an employee. They all had henchmen.

T.C.:

Sure. Maybe then you know what? Maybe our employee Mhmm. That is like, hey, I can get you behind the scenes is our Captain Hook cosplayer or our Captain Hook character player. Sure.

T.C.:

Just to because I think we might have too many characters on the board at this point.

Jim:

The the cosplayer guy can he can we can oust him. I think then the taking the the night watchman and having him put on a character costume to

T.C.:

To blend in. Blend in. Okay. Yeah. The the or night guard puts on

Jim:

the Yeah.

T.C.:

And then third night, building up to that final battle, freeing Larry and Nikki and mom and getting them all together now to face Maleficent. And she's and she's like, you know, you can't stop me. Mhmm. And then that's like, they gather all the forces of Disneyland to attack, and then she turns into the dragon. Mhmm.

T.C.:

And now it's dragon, her abominable snowman, as many villainous henchmen, all the all the bad pirates, the the amateurized throne.

Jim:

But now versus all the good guys Yeah. And their and and the toys. Yeah.

T.C.:

And a sword slays the dragon. It's like Yep. Just like Prince Philip throws the sword through Maleficent's heart to kill

Jim:

her. Sure. Yeah. And, you know, we're

T.C.:

not against this. They sent Hank Azaria to to the dust in the underworld. So the dragon is slayed, the the tablet is is caught and secured, and maybe Ach is the one who catches it and says, you know, and and now understands how to, like, hide. And puts everything right? Puts everything right.

T.C.:

And they sit looking at the beauty of Disneyland in Anaheim, California, available for all your family fun. And as the sun comes up, thus ending our Night at the Park?

Jim:

Yeah. I think so. Nights at the Park.

T.C.:

Nights at the Park. Well, Night at the Museum was called Night at the Museum even though was three.

Jim:

It was. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. It's Well, it's because it wasn't a singular night.

Jim:

It was nighttime at the museum.

T.C.:

Oh, add a word to a title, Jim.

Jim:

Nighttime at a museum.

T.C.:

Nighttime at museum. At

Jim:

the yeah.

T.C.:

I think Mostly,

Jim:

I I think the timeline can be zhuzhed. I think that for I think more can happen on that first night. I actually think it's more compelling if the elder dailies are captured that first night.

T.C.:

Immediately on that first night?

Jim:

Yeah. I could I could

T.C.:

get on board for that. We could we could move adjust it so that the first night is where Maleficent really shows, like, I'm here. Mhmm. It might be for the sake of these movies being under two hours anyway. We probably should speed that up so that the first the first launch into the action is the pandemonium Mhmm.

T.C.:

That captures Larry. And then we keep cutting to the family in whatever art style they're in. So if they get chucked into Sure. Classic renaissance or classic golden era Disney, we get to keep cutting to them and see them animated.

Jim:

We can do some here's a weird idea. They get chucked into an animation. They're stuck in this world. They're they're running around trying to find find the exit because this one's turned against the wall or

T.C.:

Mhmm.

Jim:

Whatever. And they find another one, and they jump out, and they're locked in some storage closet. And we can't get out.

T.C.:

Into the next one.

Jim:

What if we jump into this one? Maybe we can find another way out.

T.C.:

Yes. There's something away. See them in, like, dozens of like, a dozen different animation styles? I love that. That they're teleporting between worlds.

T.C.:

Hell, yes.

Jim:

Yeah. Yeah. It yeah. It can be just everywhere from three to two to possibly even one night, I think, we could like, if this is our finale Mhmm. I want I want to leave our our plot open here.

Jim:

I don't wanna lock us into no. We said it has to be the three nights or Right. To be one. So I think

T.C.:

Oh, you just you just give us that now. Yeah. Okay. It's it is a night up to more.

Jim:

One night up to a week.

T.C.:

Up to as many times

Jim:

as we

T.C.:

Now when you go to Disneyland, you're gonna want multiple days. My god. Okay. I think I think that's I think we've done it.

Jim:

I think so.

T.C.:

I think we've laid down enough of this track.

Jim:

And we didn't use the perpetual night plot. The oh, yeah.

T.C.:

We did. We can save that for whatever For the night dream you've had. Yeah. But For when they go to Disney World. Yes.

T.C.:

There we go. Okay. I think that's I think that's gonna do it for this episode, but we we need to know if we met the demand today. So Garrett, we go to you, we go to the listeners. All of you listening right now, you need to let us know if you think we met this demand.

T.C.:

Does the studio like this? So you can message us directly, studiodemands.com, Instagram. Yeah. Subscribe if you're not. Give us a review if you haven't already.

T.C.:

It helps the algorithm. YouTube, TikTok, you can find us anywhere that you might want to, you know, listen to the show. And Jim, we can find you got a couple of places we can have conversations.

Jim:

Oh, you can go to Reddit at the subreddit r/studio demands it. Join in some conversations there or start up some. Mhmm. And you can also, join our Discord by go by going to our website, and there should be a Discord invite link at the top of the page.

T.C.:

Yeah. So thank you, Garrett. This is a really fun demand. I I've been wanting to just rewatch the Night at the Museum movies anyway. I I had I would I wanted the challenge of, like, how do you make a sequel?

T.C.:

But this was a great specific demand. Mhmm. This this wasn't just like, do one fourth one or technically a fifth one. This was setting at Disneyland, smart smart smart smart.

Jim:

So Disney Night at the Park is a good shift in title as well.

T.C.:

Oh, man. And come on, Disney, you know, we've we've said your name so many times at this point. This is definitely flagged into your watchdog algorithm here. So yeah. Get if this were to make it to the finale, there's a lot to iron out here, but I think the bones are here.

T.C.:

Yeah. We we certainly have to, like, figure out a lot, but I don't think we'd be coming in at a disadvantage. I think we've we've come up with a lot of really fun stuff here. But that's up to the listeners to decide. Right?

T.C.:

Yeah. So a massive thank you to to to our godfather, David Geisler, of course, and for all the other shows he produces. There's surely another one you wanna listen to. You should go check it out. And for those of you who keep coming over from another Zelda podcast, thank you.

T.C.:

Thank you very much. Thank you very much. But Jim, I I'm I'm ready to call it right there. Do you

Jim:

have any thoughts as we wrap it up here? What if what if they're what if one of the seven dwarves has a crush on one of Sleeping Beauty's fairy godmothers. Oh. And that's that's the the

T.C.:

Instead of Lincoln and Tiana? Yeah. Yeah. Or or if one of the seven dwarves has a crush on one

Jim:

of I was trying yeah. I was trying to think of another fun fun pairing. Like,

T.C.:

we have to make everything appropriate here. We can't be, like, one of the small world midgets. Sorry, little people. Didn't mean to be offensive. They're dolls.

Jim:

They're all just dolls. They're not

T.C.:

has a crush on

Jim:

I wanted them to be a little more closer to the center of the plot, but that's okay.

T.C.:

Get I mean Maybe

Jim:

they will in the final script.

T.C.:

If if if when they if they take shelter at one point maybe they go to it's a small world for one of the things, like, mom's really excited to see it, they're like, oh my god, this is gonna kill me. But they seek shelter in Small World later, and that's where they like the arm like, we what is this? Oh god, this place was creepy before, but now it's even creepier now. No. This isn't creepy.

T.C.:

This is an army, love. An army of dolls will help you. We'll help you destroy everything. Oh, there is the train that goes around the park. Uh-huh.

T.C.:

If you take the whole train, the train is a ride. And at one point, I think it's actually on the far side when you go behind, it's a small world, there's dinosaurs.

Jim:

Oh,

T.C.:

that's There's a full animatronic T. Rex and stegosaurus fight. Nice. So we we could have dinosaurs run-in the park as well. So

Jim:

We probably should have incorporated one of them, like, the main Disney characters, like

T.C.:

like Like Mickey?

Jim:

Mickey Mickey or Goofy or Donald or any sort of the the main group. One of the problem Night at the Museum had the, I guess, advantage of everyone was human. Yeah. Right? Except from animals.

Jim:

Right. Which are animals. Like like, you can get actual animals. The dinosaurs were the most fake thing. Right.

Jim:

And we're we're going into a a fantastical world of, right, like, bipedal toad people. Mhmm. Mhmm. So that that that becomes a bit more complicated. So what if we bring Mickey to life

T.C.:

Yeah.

Jim:

What is it? Just a mascot outfit that We is just walking itself around?

T.C.:

We can have a moment central if you walk down Main Street just before the castle, Walt is standing a bronze statue of Walt Disney. Yeah. Is standing there with Mickey. That's right. Yeah.

T.C.:

And in that circle or that courtyard surrounding him, there are miniatures of Dopey, Dumbo, Jiminy Cricket, Bambi. I can't remember. There's a couple others there that are bronzed as well. Mhmm. And so that could be a moment of of quietude in the movie to, like it it sort of, like, the lowest point moment to to stop there and talk to Walt and, like, facing the castle and, you know, and and and seeing Maleficent's green magic coming off of it.

T.C.:

So there's certainly a moment there that we can have, the rich the the the the core, the very heart of Disney is right there, Mickey and and Walt himself. Yeah. But, no, I think that's what we're gonna do right here. That's it. That's the end of it.

T.C.:

Yep. We're certainly gonna still be brainstorming ideas for this, but thank you so much for listening, everyone. And we'll we'll be back again with another one. Right, Jim? Right, T.

T.C.:

That's my name.

Jim:

Back with the world of cinema time. We're fixing the world of cinema.

T.C.:

Disney pirates. Seriously.

Jim:

So we can make you so many So many money.

T.C.:

So many

Jim:

billions. We could make you as rich as Elon Musk. We could make you as rich

T.C.:

as no. Actually, that's better. I was gonna say, Disney, we could make you as rich as Disney. But no. Yeah.

T.C.:

Elon's Double Disney. You could be double Disney. Alright. We're stopping. That's the name.