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We talk about all things cannabis from dispensaries, cultivations, current news & entrepreneurship along with some lifestyle topics to intrigue, inspire and flat out make you laugh! During this series we'll have interviews with some game changers showing you a different perspective discussing the state of Cannabis. Friendly for newbies, vets and people who curious. It's funny, it's blunt, it's real... Sativa Talk Podcast.
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Welcome to another episode of Sativa Talk Podcast where we have blunt conversations. We like to talk about cannabis of course whether you are a vet, newbie, or just curious we got you covered. And of course we'll get into some lifestyle and entrepreneurship as well. Today we are celebrating episode number 10. We still need to get sound effects. One is the start of everything in the world and a new beginning and zero represents infinity and all matter of the world. Some would say everything is made up of ones and zeros. The one and zero represent honor, faith, self-confidence, and fame. A new beginning in many aspects of your life including career, finance, health, and relationships. It can also be telling you that it's time to learn something new, a move on from past mistakes. So I had nothing to rhyme with that so y'all just episode number 10. Let's get it in. Easy. I told you it comes. I'm so cold with it. All right. So today's guest, we have a very special guest here. He is a performer. He's a drummer. He's a herbalist. He's an African priest. He is a jack of all trades, very important trades. This is good stuff you guys about to get in on. Mr. Johnny, how are you doing today? I am doing amazing. Thank you so much for having me here. Of course. Have you heard that song uh um where is my Johnny Johnny Boy?
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Oh I love that song. I love that song too. I always thought you were talking about me honestly.
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Yeah low key. Go ahead. Is it um the song with um Berna Boy or Angelina? Are you talking about me? Yes. You can tell me that he ain't. Um before we get started I do want to give a shout out to my sponsors the Business Entertainment West. They are in the business of providing entertainment on the West Coast. You can find them on Instagram at bizentwest underscore Vegas and tell them thank you for bringing AGT back to the airways. So before I get into everything that you have going on because I feel like the conversation once we start it's gonna go all over the place because I always have a thousand questions for you every time I see you. I do would like to go ahead and get the weed news announcements out the way. New things, we're mixing entrepreneurship and the weed news together. Right now in Colorado they are testing cannabis vending machines. Now this particular machine can hold up to 1,152 weed products depending on the size and you can get cannabis bagged up right in front of you. So it's going to be like a clear window where you can see. For some people that's cool. For me I'm more concerned who's weighing it. I don't trust a computer to pick it up the right amount every time. Like nah I weigh myself out in front of me bruh. But nonetheless that sounds like opportunity at some point at some scale. This person Ace vending machine they don't own a whole dispensary there you just own the machine and you know I'm saying so I just want to encourage whoever somebody out there if that sparked the interest in you because I know we all done seen the promotions on social media on Instagram is like oh on a vending machine you can just put them here put them there where there's a different little spin just saying nothing you have nothing to say about this Johnny. You know I think it's a amazing idea. You know it's like you're on the go you know it's very unique. I'll be open to it especially if it was refrigerated so I keep all my cannabis in the fridge or the freezer so you can refrigerate it I would prefer that I'm all about convenience so even when they started doing the drive-thrus here in Vegas like I'm all for it. The least amount I have to talk because before all this came about I didn't have to talk. We just I told you what I needed I gave you the and I got on about my business So that's that's the basic model of this so being an herbalist Since we're talking about weed. What is your relationship with the weed plant? Well my relationship with
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Cannabis is very spiritual very spiritual My journey started my path on it started maybe around seven years ago And I have my own spiritual experience Within it. You know I was just using it. You know just like everyone else and Within me performing and within me training martial arts and things like that and working through spiritual practices like yoga Breathwork I started to tap into other parts of myself other components that I you know I didn't know about myself within this plant. And that's how it started to, for me, it started to build a close intertwined relationship with my spiritual body, which for me, it took me into a deep meditative state of studying myself and going deeper within the components of the layers of the self so yeah, that's how it kind of started with me interesting
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So being a African priest and cannabis
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That's that helped or what oh yes, okay? Yes. It's sort of what it did was it for me is it started to? Unveil things within me you know because of you know being a African priest and there's so many rituals and so many different things that we we are doing constantly and so many different parts of ourselves that are connected with so many different ancestors from so many different lineages and so this plant is almost like multi layers of this plant that's being experienced within the body as well as outside of the body and in the environment. You know, as I'm moving, as I'm walking, as I'm, you know, speaking to people, I'm realizing that I'm seeing things differently now just because of this practice and using this plant so many different ways. And it has caused me to really tap deep into understanding people, psychology. I started digging deep into energetic healing energy work you know like Reiki yes like Reiki okay Qigong intense breath work Kundalini yoga different things like that and really diving deep into the roots of our ancestry as well as being indigenous and as was the plant working symbiotically as a medicine for the body, the human body, which is very deep. It's very, very deep science, but that's kind of like my road. Okay, so you partake in the cannabis part and then you do
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those practices? Yes. Okay. Oh, intense breath work after consumption, it sounds like don't pass out
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before and after this is different. You know, I like to sort of warm the body of you know with breath work and meditation because the body itself is an instrument the body itself is a plant it's considered a plant and it's so many different parts of our body and the fluids in our body and parts of the brain that actually taps into natural DMT which is very deep you know and once i like to warm that part of myself up and then I invoke the plant. I pray into the plant. I speak into the plant.
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Before you roll it up?
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Before I do all of this, yes. Oh, I've never prayed over my plant. It's like we become one. It's almost like what I'm dealing with, what I'm needing to surface within myself. If it's something that I, maybe I had a dream the night before and it's something that I know I'm like, okay, I need to heal this thing. This is something that keeps coming up, but I don't know how to heal this physically because it's beyond my physical understanding. I go directly to spirit, I go to, you know, in vocations, I go to the plant and I say, hey, can you help me with this? And I create this symbiotic relationship and sort of we sort of merge, you know, and the information comes from the plant. The information comes out. You know, and sometimes the plant may say, okay, only hit me once, but breathe, maybe inhale like seven times and then hold the last breath and then exhale very slow. And then just put me down and just meditate. Sit with me here. Just sit. I'm going to move through you and I'm going to show you everything you need to know, everything you need to do moving forward. And that can be with anything. Business. Most of these plants have the secrets to being an entrepreneur. You know, and if we are able to communicate with them, they are all spirits. And from different lineages themselves, they are like ancestors. When we communicate and connect with them on those levels, that's when we are able to tap into the higher consciousness.
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You're blowing my mind right now.
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Okay.
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Wow.
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So, all right, background. Well, I've known Johnny for what, about four or five years ish. It's been a while. But I recently saw you at, so shout out to CEIC. They had a Blacks in Cannabis event at Classic Jewel that's located downtown and you were on the panel and we had a brief second to kind of talk about this and you talked about that on the panel and I never thought about it like that. Working in the cultivation I was able to be hands-on with the plant so it very much is alive. You know I'm saying you see it wake up you see it go to sleep you can tell if it's sick you can tell it like like whatever energy you have you're when you go into the building you're essentially giving that to the plant and it's gonna show in the results of the plant So I never thought you know And embrace the question maybe you should pray or something before it's even harvested or anything like that. So have you looked into Working with the plant in regards to before it's even harvested from growing it or are you interested in that? Yes
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It's something I'm definitely interested in. I've had some opportunities to visit farms of different friends that are growing it and we've, me and my team, we actually have traveled, you know, outside of, you know, the states doing ceremony with this, the plants growing at the beginning stage and we wanted to kind of experiment with let's see how you know the plant is going to respond to our voices, our breath, our energy, you know when we actually are putting, we're giving to the plant instead of looking to take let's give everything, let's treat these plants as if they're children because they are they're like babies you know and I have a brand new baby now so it's sort of like I'm understanding this by handling my own baby. They're just innocent. They're looking for care and love. A lot of the plants are coming from a different lineage. Some plants come here, they're already traumatized. They're traumatized from the beginning. They're seeking healing from specific humans. We are all plants, you know, and so we have experience with that, with drumming, with sound, with music, we use sound bowls, we do Reiki on the plants, prayers and invocations, very powerful affirmations, and asking the plants or telling a commanding universe around the plants to allow the plant to grow its highest and full potential. And a lot of these plants already know they're already assigned to specific humans like there's a plant right now That already knows that it's going to be ingested by you and it's ultimate purpose its goal purpose is to you know, um grow and To become what it needs to be just for you And this is how you know plant world works, you know, and and it's a communication system. And so it's very, very scientific. It's very deep. And I like to look at it in an area, but we have experienced and we've had tremendous results. I remember we did a drumming ceremony in Costa Rica and one of our friends had a cannabis farm and they wanted to see the difference when we blessed the land itself with drumming and celebration and ceremony and dancing. And they called us back and was like, oh my god These plants are growing like like ten times the size that you know They just if we were just taking care of plant just on a normal how we normally with a normal routine Now, what did you do? What did you all do? You know, we were singing specific songs that you know, the plants know the songs they access a lot of times we have spiritual in tune people When you tap into Reiki you tap into Qi Gong and your aura starts to extend you have like more of you We have a sixth sense where you can almost hear or feel These plants and what they're saying a lot of times they want this energy. They want dancing. They want singing They want to share breath with us You know, we have a lot of energy in our breath a lot of spiritual energy in our breath. So it's very important to watch what we say and watch what we speak. And even our thoughts, our patterns of thought, a lot of times is, you know, corresponding with the plank. So the plank is picking it up intuitively, you know, and it's giving this energy back. It's like a ping pong effect, you know, it's like an echo. And so one plank teaches the next plank. And so when one plank is, a plank is feeling negative because the human has brought a negative vibe into the space. It starts to pass it to the next plant and that's how you get that very quick dispersive energy and what we call in Qigong is turbulent Qi. A lot of these plants are already traumatized from the beginning because their handlers are not understanding energy or Qi and that's the first thing of life before blood there's chi you know before fluid there's chi there's energy is a substance and that's what these plants are operating off of. Oh you see the lights flicker? Yeah it's been happening all day actually. Wesley did you do that?
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Okay, okay, okay, so a couple things. So I'm letting all this kind of process, right? So praying over your product before consuming, not too far off because you're technically supposed to pray over anything that before you ingest it into your body. So of course, why not? Two things. What, so a traumatized plant so if I have a plant that's pre traumatized will my praying remove like how do you de traumatize a plant before ingesting it?
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That's a really good question. I would say definitely your prayer or your invocations the power from your voice and your intentions can change anything. You know, we, I would say as human, we underestimate our like powers, the powers that we have. You know, we can change the molecules in the space. You know, with sound, our voices are resonance of sound, vibrational energy. And also when we're using the oxygen, we're transferring or converting it into substance, sort of like dark matter. And this is invisible energy, but it can still be picked up, you know, by high technology can be picked up in a space, you can actually see people's auras, you know, bleed out. And it's like a liquid, like we're constantly walking in the liquid. And that's what the auras are. It's like a liquid substance that's sitting like about three to five feet outside of the body. Some people have stronger power like you're wearing a crystal right now. And sometimes those crystals, which are also living entities, are resonating with energy and constantly sort of converting the energy and going inside and outside of it like it's breathing. And so we can change the form and structure of anything that's physical. Now when it comes to plants, plants in particular, because we have the same sort of system that plants operate off of as well. And so when we connect with them on that level, we you can sort of sit with a plant. And sometimes the plant will communicate and say, hey, I'm not feeling well. You know where I come from. It was a lot of arguments or there was this we wasn't taking care of as much as we should have you know maybe the the process was rushed you know mass-produced you don't have much time to spend with those babies you're just trying to hurry up and grow them they may let you know hey you know we're not at our best but we're gonna give you our best but this is they're gonna let a
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professional who's tuned in to know.
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Yeah, they're most likely going to connect with someone that works with them all the time. You know, and those are your handlers, your growers that are always constantly working with these plants.
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Who are unappreciated, but most important.
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They're most important. Because it's just like an infant, you know, the infant stage of when a baby first comes out, who handles the baby first, you know, even before or while the mother is sort of getting herself ready to hold the baby is most important. They have the most, I would say, influence on the baby's energy. And it's all about energy.
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Okay.
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Yes. Okay.
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What role could this play in mental health?
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Oh, wow. of mental health or so many parts of the brain is still being you know discovered of you know psychological trauma and how deep it goes even psychological trauma in the heart. Parts of you know there are a lot of ancient you know teachings that the heart is also considered a brain. It has a lot more memory than the actual brain that we have and it has past life memory, it has memory that it can feel which is more powerful than the memory that we just pick up with our eyes and we just try to remember it. You know, the heart has a lot more of that memory space and so when it comes to healing mental, mental healing, it has a lot to do with the same thing we're saying of understanding energy and how energy flows. Wherever energy goes is where it's going to flow. And so our minds are the key component. The mind is like a computer system. You know, it picks up different neurons and different particles, and then it tries to process it. You know, just like our digestive system. When we eat something, it's really just like a computer system. It's really trying to figure out, OK, what is this? You know, OK, we switch the diet up. Okay You know and so when we get on a regimen of like, you know of healing and we're tuned to okay, we're We're looking to heal. Let's say Past trauma trauma something that happened to us when we were children. We can't remember it though we have to go directly to the heart because the heart is the the main component of remembering something that happened when we were like two
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months. So you can customize a plant when when it's a baby is essentially this is what I'm gathering from the cultivations you work with. Get into a point where okay we're gonna grow a plant that's going to be able to tap into someone's mental or heart trauma and you go into the dispensary and you purchase this, you pray over it before you ingest it and let it help you. And it's not an end-all be-all, it's not going to be a one-stop shop for the product, but essentially that is the idea.
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Yes, that's exactly it. Wow. You nailed it. That's perfectly said. And I like to look at it as kind of like when you walk into a dark room, you turn a light switch on, everything turns on. When you send an invocation or you send a sound wave into this plant and you say, okay, I need you to help me heal a divorce that I just had. I'm struggling with this. I can't get over this or a past, someone that just, you know, a family member that passed away. I need to heal from this and I'm not able to get through this by myself. Can you help me? The light switch in that plant turns on. It does what it's supposed to do. It goes directly to the place in the body that needs to help that you probably can't and we can't find on our own and
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that's how these plants work it's exactly how they work. Okay so since those invocations aren't put upon the plant none of those it isn't given a direction naturally it just grows into it and it just brings the benefits it already does does to you and okay I'm letting this one around and I just want to point out like this conversation is so it's very much advanced so I know it's gonna be some people to think that we're just being like super hippies right now and like tripping out I have not consumed it's actually ready to go but I'm what I feel like I should break it down and pray over a rolled one?
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Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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But I feel that at some point, I can't really guarantee, you know, say 5 years, 10 years, but there's going to be a point where that's going to be the standard on how. I can see that being or having its own lane for sure, but I mean, to be honest, they just started approving some real solid research on the plant. So it's like, on paper, we're so far behind but maybe they know. Yes. Yes. I already knew that. Absolutely. Okay so this is a lot to process so if you're a tuning in right now on Spotify, Google Play, UNLV website just take a deep breath with me. I do have a couple stories I did want to talk about before we end this. Now this is another one from our entrepreneurs. There was a recent study in Germany, I need to stop. There was a study that it was about 134 volunteers so between the ages of 19 and 39 who participated in a sleep study. How do you feel about sleep? Let me ask you this. Sleep is magical.
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Sleep is magical for me you know being the road to you know what I'm doing as far as a spiritual shaman, for us sleep is the other world. When we go to sleep, we wake up somewhere else. We have work elsewhere that we're doing that's corresponding with this life. How I look at sleep, sleep is beneficial because it helps us connect with that other world, that ancestral realm. That's how we go get messages and that's how you find out, you know, someone that passed away, they don't really die, they just transition to a different realm. And you're able to, when you sleep a lot of times, and there's another plan, I'm going to put this out there, there's another, there's a plant you can use, if you would like to experience these vivid, you know, dreams of your own ancestry, is mugwort. Samples of using mugwort. Smoke it? Yeah, you can smoke it before, you can actually smoke it, you can roll it up and smoke it.
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Give me one second. This is why I'm not telling anybody listening right now to do that. Hey, this is a conversation with A and B and you are just too mean. OK. All right. Go ahead.
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Or you can just burn it, you know, right when you're going to sleep. You burn it right before you go to sleep. safe and traveling plants that helps you literally transition into the other world. And a lot of times you can... Is it like lucid dreaming? Very much so like lucid dreaming, yes. And you can actually remember the dreams because most people don't remember their dreams. You know they have them and I can't remember them. And but this is a way to actually go in you purposely are doing this. I always speak to the plans. That's one of the rules of Thumb. Prayer is invocation, so I always speak into my intentions. Okay, mugwort, I need to speak with my mother. My mother just transitioned in August. I need to speak with her because I need to know what to do moving forward with my own children. I still need help. And I burn this mugwort, I sit it right by my bed, sometimes I light a candle, sometimes I may put some water there. Whatever I'm feeling that comes to me. But I have that mugwort. And at every single time, there hasn't been a time that it hasn't worked. You know, it's like the movie Black Panther when they go in and boom, he wakes up and he's in another world and he can get information. And I've already had visitation with my mother, you know, and and and you can communicate and remember it. So that's like the work of a shaman. We go to the other realm, we get the medicine and we wake up here and we know how to administer the medicine.
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Yeah.
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Wow. Well the article I was going to say is nowhere near that deep.
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Very surface level.
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Sleep is important.
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Let's put it like that. Okay, well like I said it was the 834 people between the ages of 19 and 39 They did a study analyzing their MRI data sleep deprivation Which is more than 24 hours of prolonged wakefulness partial deprivation Which is three hours in bed for one night and chronic deprivation which is five hours in bed for five nights they notice that if you consistently operate off of sleep deprivation it increased your brain's age by one to two years. It doesn't mean that you get a few sleepless nights and now you know you're all of a sudden 78 years old. However, if you don't have a consistent sleep so if you didn't get some sleep a couple nights if you don't get at least eight hours one of those nights to kind of recap and catch up we're actually aging our brains So I just found that article because there's always this big debate on oh if you want to be successful You need to get up. You know, how do you don't work? I mean, you don't sleep eight hours a night You need to sleep four hours a night. Would you sleep before next person get up before you maybe listen? Do you want this body to last you? You know through this success you're working towards because you got to give it rest. You have to listen to it. And so it's very important. I just want to know which entrepreneur out there I needed to remind you but go take a nap. Yes. I don't care what time you see this.
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Go handle your meeting and take that little nap. That's true. So yeah. Sleep actually regenerates the cells and that's what gives us a long life and having enough sleep. You know everybody's different but I would say the roads to success if you're not healthy you're not gonna be successful Yeah, yeah, so before we go is there anything else that I needed to touch on with you Yeah, so we have an event coming up this event is March 25th and at 26 It's called walk with the shaman and so what we'll be doing is a very fun event we'll be doing an excursion in the forest out here in Las Vegas. We'll be actually showcasing or revealing medicinal plants that are right here in nature. And these plants that can be used for healing and like we were just talking about, used for balancing out the health in the body, connecting more with the herbs and things like that. We'll be doing this event, it's sort of a mini retreat. We used to do this once a year, but Spirit kind of guided us to like, hey, the fact that, you know, this year in particular, I don't know what's going on this year, but this year in particular, it's been a great change of having to be more close with plants for everybody. This is like anybody you know. So this is an opportunity just to you know kind of walk in the forest with us and learn these herbs and you know just kind of have some fun. We have some food you know we're going to be enjoying ourselves and things like that. So. Okay if anything like that you would like to read up and get more information is there a. Yes there's a website. Okay. www.walkwiththeshaman.com.
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All right.
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It has all the information on there. I look forward to seeing whomever would love to come and get this work. It's beautiful work.
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Okay. All right.
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So do you have a personal Instagram or something that we can follow you if we have any questions about the prayer or anything? Yes. What's your Instagram? I have Instagram. It's at Johnny Burgess 601. It's my Instagram. I also have a podcast, Fusions Holistics Official. And this podcast, you can find us on Spotify, you know, where I actually have guided meditations. And, you know, I share a lot of this information on there. And just trying to get the community just have an awareness that, you know, these plants and, you know, the spiritual components of plants is very vital. Very vital to the physical experiences that we are experiencing.
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Absolutely. That's why I love working in this industry because I can take it anyway. And I'm connected. I'm just as passionate about it. So thank you for taking time to come out and blow our minds. I feel like I'll have to have you come back. Thank you so much. I want to thank my sponsors of the business entertainment West for the sponsorship if anyone would like a mention or sponsorship You can reach me at Angie T dot on air at gmail.com. Thank you, Wesley in the sound room If you would like to run this episode back or if you miss any previous episodes You can search sativa talk podcast on Spotify Google Play Amazon and of course UNLV's website. Just search for the podcast. My Instagram is NGT underscore on air or Facebook Angie Thompson. I want to send you my love and NGT underscore on air or Facebook Angie Thompson. I want to send you my love and appreciation for you guys to tuning in and I'll see you next week.
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