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I'm Brian Bashore, Professional walleye angler and owner of The Walleye Guys Guide service. I am here to reel you in with captivating stories, expert tips, and interviews with some of the biggest names in the fishing community. So, sit back, relax, and let the drag scream!
Brian Bashore (00:01.484)
Hey folks, welcome back to another episode of Real Talk Fishing with No Limits. Today we're heading up north to the I don't say the Mighty Mississippi, it's the Mighty Moe, the Mighty Moe Bridge on the Missouri River up there at New Everett Resort with Cody Rader. And what's happening, man? How's it going? Coming off some big tournaments, a lot of action up there, guide bites taking off. What's happening up in your area?
cody (00:25.396)
Hey Brian, thanks for having me on the podcast. yeah, just a lot of stuff going on. Got done with the NWT, had a little tournament after that, and the guiding has just been unbelievable. So I just it just the fish have really taken off after the NWT, and it's just it's been just an amazing deal. Yeah. Exactly. And the wind the wind died down a little bit for like two weeks, and all of a sudden it's back up again.
Brian Bashore (00:44.216)
Of course. That's how that always works. As soon as the tournament's over, the bite fires up, right?
Brian Bashore (00:54.986)
Yeah, yeah, it it's blown today. I'm glad we got done limited out by about twelve thirty. I'm like, we can kinda we don't have my fish, so we can fish if you want to try to catch a big one. We don't have trophy fish like you got to go target, you know, if somebody wants to do that, but we'll go try one more spot and then they're like, We're good and then we got start cleaning fish and it was ripping. I'm like, Good thing we got off when we did and they're like, yeah, that that that was perfect, so
cody (01:19.582)
Yeah, that that's a guide's dream when he can get off and know the wind's coming up or it's been a long day and you get a storm coming in. I mean, it's just it's not good for the clients to stay out there in and it just makes us, you know, a little more frustrating too. I mean, as far as have to, you know, deal with the weather and all that. We're out there for eight hours a day with our clients. So, I mean, it they get a full day of fishing and we just been whacking and stacking up here out of New Everett's. It's just been unbelievable.
Brian Bashore (01:31.396)
yeah.
Brian Bashore (01:44.226)
Yeah, I've seen the pictures of G getting posted there. I'm like, yep, and those things those fish are so fat, it's stupid. They'd say that at Luce and Clark that they're like ninety five percent top. Like if these fish are ninety five percent healthy, Oahu's like a hundred and fifteen. Cause when you grab like a twenty inch, you can feel the smelt or whatever the hell else they're eating in their belly when you pick up. There's a
cody (02:05.453)
yeah, you you can do you can just feel it. I mean, like six sixteen and a half inches for like the last week, we just put we put a limit on the boat that we're not gonna keep anything under eighteen, eighteen and a half inches. And we're throwing back fifty, sixty, seventy, eighty, ninety walleyes a day that are sixteen to seventeen and three quarter, and they're like over two pounds. I mean, they're just giants. But it the system is so healthy. It's just it's unbelievable.
Brian Bashore (02:29.986)
Yeah that
Brian Bashore (02:34.006)
Yeah, I mean we're having kind of record fish catches here. When we can get fifty, seventy five fish a day, that that's a lot. And we're in we got a fifteen mile reservoir, you know, versus what you got. So I'm like, this is people ask, you know, how's the fish? I'm like, It's better than it's ever been, but it water's cleaner, got zebra mussels have done wonderful things making the fishery better like they always do. Right? But it but
cody (02:55.475)
You know, when the wind when it dirties up up here it makes it tough. You know, you just gotta go look for that clean water and and we're still at cooler temperatures down on the southern end of the reservoir right now. So I mean, a lot of them fish, they're just staged right in that Mowbridge area, a little bit north of Mobridge. They're staged right there. And it's just of a feeding frenzy for everybody.
Brian Bashore (02:59.126)
Yeah.
Brian Bashore (03:15.83)
Yeah, it would have been nice if they were staged there a few weeks ago, but the well to go back a little bit, Cody, tell everybody a little bit more about you. You've been guiding up there out of New Everts and ranching and doing it all for years. a little background.
cody (03:18.879)
yeah, no c
cody (03:29.191)
a little background, born and raised in here on South Dakota. moved out into Isabelle, South Dakota about fifteen years ago. been working for Linscove's LT ranch out here and they're just the most most amazing people you could ever want to work for. Summertime comes around, I go fishing. They gave me the opportunity to go out and guide and do a couple tournaments here and there, which is awesome. But I definitely put my time in out there.
So with the calving and haying and all that stuff and it it's it's just it's an honor to work for They're great people. And I can't thank enough for letting me chase something that I love to do, and that's fishing. So
Brian Bashore (04:09.634)
Yeah, that's a it's a perfect combination and and they're South Dakotans. You don't hear a whole lot of that when people are like, Hey, these people are just great people. It's like, Yeah, they're South Dakotans, you know, through and through. That's just how it is out here, right?
cody (04:19.087)
Yeah. They're a family ranch and it's just the unbelievable. It's just so fun to even, you know, in the calving deal to watch them calves grow up and then go into the bull sale and we have our bull sale every year. This was our forty fifth year this year and it just unbelievable sale and the I think it's like forty one state thirty eight or forty one states we sold bulls to. So yeah, it's it's just unbelievable deal and
Brian Bashore (04:42.84)
Great.
cody (04:46.877)
Yeah, it's just I couldn't ask for a better place to be in the off time of guiding and fishing. So
Brian Bashore (04:52.33)
It you know, it's ironics when I talked to when Chilean on here long ago and a year ago and him and I talking about if you live up where you do, y th there's two things to do. You ranch or you fish, right? And there you are, you're doing both of So you're Yep.
cody (05:06.449)
Hundred and ten percent. Living living the best of all the worlds there.
Brian Bashore (05:10.092)
Yep, yep, yep. That's that's awesome. Been guiding out of New Everts for how long you been up out of there?
cody (05:15.593)
I've been guiding out of New Everts 2018. kind of had, you know, it's kind of a start in there in in the first couple of years and now it just progressed to just constantly, you know, just we're so busy and we just we love the clients that come in there. So far this year, all the clients that have came to New Everts have all rebooked for next year. We have not had one group that is not rebooked, and that's something that's getting a little tougher and tougher to get into, especially in that late May and early June time slots, is
is actually getting some dates in there. But, you know, we give Gabe a call at New Everts and, you he'll get you he'll get you fit in there. We got it such a great group of guides and it just it's it's just being my second home over there. That's what's awesome.
Brian Bashore (05:57.248)
Right. Yeah, he's up to I mean you and Tyler and Gabe's out there guiding every day and
cody (06:02.291)
Yeah, I Gabe's in there guiding all day long in the hot heat and then going into the kitchen and cooking it night and it just I don't know how that guy does it, but man, he gets her done and it is just top notch food.
Brian Bashore (06:07.48)
Yeah, he's one.
Brian Bashore (06:14.23)
I mean, every time I go up there that's where I stay. It runs a you know, a good show, tight ship. Food's phenomenal at the resort there and or cabins, cottages, whatever you want to call it, his bar and grill. got everything you need, fuel, gas, which is great 'cause it's I mean, Mowbrage isn't too far away, obviously. But when you're on the river, y you know, gas stops are far and few and you got a boat ramp, just I think it's like what, five minutes away into that thing.
cody (06:20.435)
Yeah.
cody (06:37.597)
Yeah, it's like I think it's like a mile and a half away from the boat ramp. But it's just nice to have everything there, all your bait, your food, the sandwiches. You don't have to go anywhere. Once once you pull into New Everett's you park there and you don't have to leave 'til you're gone. So
Brian Bashore (06:50.252)
Yep. Yep. And whether you're going with them guys or you're gonna go on your own, you got plenty of parking and room that's set up obviously for guys to back their boats up. It was I love it 'cause of I always stay there and chase and spring all the next by crews, the guys are always staying there and then you know, looking down that road there today it was this V ten four hundred Mercury just freaking lined up, you know, as we all backed in. I think there was almost everything Evan Root and yeah dumb dumb went a Suzuki sticking in and I was like
cody (07:07.827)
Ha ha ha.
I had to find my V six over there.
Brian Bashore (07:16.812)
Get those things out of here. This this this is a beautiful shot with all these V Tib four hundreds over here. But you know, I just yeah, when tournaments come to town, Motorbridge shows up. go back NWT. You had a good little finish there. I think what'd you get? Eighteenth, ninth, something like you cash a check.
cody (07:31.531)
Seven Wade Wilde and I tied another one of the guides for New Everts who helps us. We tied for seventeenth. I I told him I'm better looking than he is, so I should have, you know, got the little higher end. But
Brian Bashore (07:34.862)
Okay, yep, yep.
Brian Bashore (07:42.068)
Sure. Right on.
cody (07:44.83)
Had a great had a little kind of a little mishap on day one. went out there, had a little found found the bite on Tuesday morning. I had a I got a video of it, a nineteen and seven eighths and a nine pounder in the bottom of the boat at the exact same time. Both rods went off and buckled. And I'm like, we found it. I knew it was gonna load up, the bait was there, didn't see the fish on like Saturday, Sunday, knew that northwest wind was gonna create something going on there.
And went in there Tuesday morning, last day of practice, and I was off the water in the next probably forty minutes after that, because I was like, they're here. They showed up. day one, launch, go down there, first pass, nineteen incher. I'm like, all right, setting up good. Next next fish, twenty two and a half, and I'm like, Mmm, I just don't know, you know, the bite's been tough.
When's supposed to pick up tomorrow? It's just like, my, you know. I'm like, you know what? Box it.
Brian Bashore (08:48.888)
That's like the the the one size you don't want to get, but you I mean the way it was going, it's like, Okay, I'll take one of these. Just one.
cody (08:54.663)
Yeah. And that's how we we kinda as a team we kind of said we're gonna we're gonna box the limit right away, you know, and and keep what we can and you know, at least get some weight on the board. Keep going a little bit further and go right in front of another boat and my lead core rod just absolutely ninety degrees on a WNC Reaper. And I'm like, This is the one. I mean this is twelve plus. I mean I I've caught enough big fish. This is a big one.
And there's one tree out there and it's sitting above the water, but it's got one limb on it, and that fish gets hung up in that tree branch and snap.
Brian Bashore (09:35.864)
They know right where to go.
cody (09:38.568)
so now as you're in a Debbie Downer moment, you're like, you know, you know, what in the heck? You know, go a little bit further, caught an 18 and a half incher, go a little bit further, and all of a sudden the rod, shorty rod, and the snap weight just boom, buckles, and I'm like, Alright, here we go. This is it. Get it up there and net it 10 pounder, 30 inch or 10 pounds, fat, just nice and healthy. So went little bit further, came back, made another pass, caught
Brian Bashore (09:41.794)
Yeah.
cody (10:07.571)
Five more fish that were 22 to 24 inches on that pass. I'm going, what did I keep that one for? So caught caught one more slot fish in there, kept going because I just I saw the wind was starting to pick up, kept going a little bit further, and all of a sudden, boom, seven pounds.
Brian Bashore (10:16.781)
Yeah.
Brian Bashore (10:30.574)
Of course.
cody (10:31.759)
I just I I about threw up. I'm like, well, here you go. Kaboosh. Down she went. And then we started getting into I needed some more slot fish and I wasn't getting them and I was just getting like more shortovers in there and I'm like, I gotta get out of here. I gotta go turn into guide mode, put some bottom bouncers down to the night crawler, and we just need to put some fish in the boat, you know, some more slots. So anyway, rolled all the way back towards town, house down south, rode all rolled all the way back.
Brian Bashore (10:37.324)
Yeah.
cody (11:01.927)
Went into Timber Bay, just kind of a known local hotspot over there once in a while. Got and found the fish. I'm telling you one thing, everybody like the forward facing sonar. I don't use it as much for casting at fish as I use it for guiding. Cause I can see exactly where them fish are stationed. Instead of using your 2D once in a while, you can go in and look and say, they're in twelve foot. They're not in eight foot like the guy at the gas station said. They moved out to twelve foot.
And you can just you can drive right at And you just watch the rods and they'll just they'll start buckling. So we went in there to guide Moan. What's that? Yeah, kidd, no kidding. But so anyway, went in there and we caught like three or four beautiful slot fish. And I'm like, We're right by the ramp. Time to go, you know, check in and 'cause we had a short day that day and
Brian Bashore (11:39.31)
A H twelve was a good depth.
cody (11:59.338)
Went over there and I was pretty happy with I think it was eighteen six, I think is what I weighed on the first day. I was pretty happy with that, except I left that seven pounder out there. I mean that one that one hurt in the long run. Day two. Yeah, was it windy day two?
Brian Bashore (12:15.934)
Yeah, a little bit. I didn't go far but yeah. It was a brutal one.
cody (12:20.063)
Man. Well, I made the run again and went down there and caught another slot on the first pass down there and nothing else. I mean the wind was just ripping through there and kind of dirtied it up a little bit. I kind of I missed the the window with them fish actually went up instead of down. They slid up on the deal, like five foot, and I missed that.
went to another spot. I think I had two fish at 130, and they're both slot fish. And all of a sudden I started finding these fish, and they're there, and I'm like, these things are gonna eat. I I know they're gonna eat yet today. So made like three passes on them and got like one slot fish every time. And they were nice healthy ones. And finally, the last pass I come through there, boom, rod buckles. Another 10 pounder, 30 incher.
Get in the net, get in the boat, really gain my confidence back up, went to turn around to go make another pass. Boom, 24 incher. I'm like, I'm just lifting the rods out of the water. So guess what? Hero or zero on day two. I threw the twenty-four back. Well, guess what? We never got another we had two we lost two big bites on there on that stretch, but yeah, so come back in, ended up in tied for seventeenth.
New Everett's guys showed up. We're just we're happy with where we finished in the field. During the weather circumstances and all that, we're we're really happy.
Brian Bashore (13:55.459)
Yeah that not bad at all. That I didn't get on those big fish cranking. I don't I don't know. I was chasing tail and same thing Tuesday I went to like horseshoe and it was clean and I went, huh, threw a jig and a meadow out, bam, twenty one and I'm dra put it in a rod holder while I'm pitching, scoping. Like a twenty one, I pick up a nineteen and eighteen and a half, like another nineteen, just minutes. I'm like, good to go.
cody (14:13.801)
Yeah.
Brian Bashore (14:22.304)
I'm out this I get under, you know. I haven't got any big fish, twenty-twos maybe, but in like fifteen minutes, you can pick up five unders. We gotta knock that out. Well, day one, go in there and roll in them like it's dirty. It got dirty. Where'd this come from? It was never any good with any there were still fish, and I had a c I missed a couple in there, but nope. I'm like this thing working, it cranked it a little bit and got some small ones. I'm like, they're not and there was quite a
good handful of people, but it got dirty and went to another spot. It cleaned up, popped nineteen and three quarter inch slot. But nothing big ever. Just no big ones. I never got it all week really.
cody (15:01.725)
Yeah. And that's the thing that's the thing about there with that wind, you know, it that wind changes this reservoir so much, you know, and dirties it up. It's like, you know, Saturday when that wind started. You could just drive back to New Everett's from town and just look at the river and the thing was just it was like a painting. It was just getting stained, the whole thing. All the bays, the points. And the next thing you know, the next day it was the whole river was just stained. There was no clay.
So that's the only problem, you know, you just gotta keep finding that clean water and and
Brian Bashore (15:32.333)
And even like dirty water I could still see a few feet down, but I'm like, apparently that's not clean enough here. But I mean, Francis Casey can see damn near ten feet and Lucy and Clark's now, it's clean and that's just the way it is. Those fish want nothing to do with you if it's a little little dingy, they're like, You ain't getting them, they ain't going. They're they're moving out. And if you do see you you just can't get to go. So they want to kick and went right across from the launch. I'm like, well just make a couple passes here and we pick up
cody (15:53.488)
Yeah. No after
Brian Bashore (16:00.942)
Two more nice slots. And I'm like, there's a absolute pile of fish. I didn't see them at pre-fish, but there's a bunch of boats. And then so we start the next morning and I got Dewey on this side, nusbomb on this side. I'm like, yes, this must have been a good spot. And then I see a 12-pounder get caught, skipper cooks one up mid-morning scoping. And I'm like, well, let's just hurry up and crank up our five. Then we'll just go target these big ones. And we did and just couldn't get them to go. But I'm like, I knew there were some big fish up there. And I've been up there a couple times in the fall, tried to shoot a little YouTube and get them. And last fall kind of sucked.
First fall I went up there. I just was in and out in a day and missed a morning bite. But there's a lot of big fish up there.
cody (16:37.853)
Yeah, there is. And I don't with the way the bait in the system is with the smelt and everything, they're just getting bigger and bigger and bigger. I think we're gonna see a little bit. If we can I think the lake herring I l I listened to a biologist at one time told me that the smelt are actually eating the lake herring fry. So that's why we're seeing a little bit of a decline in the lake herring up there. So I hopefully that trend is not
keep going. But I'm hoping we see like a good lake herring hatch or Cisco or whatever you want to call this year so we can get a lot more of them them bigger.
Brian Bashore (17:15.96)
I those things are a foot long. I mean Yeah, I've caught one on a finisher. So I mean it was I was like, that's not a walleye, it's the frickin' bait. I w I walleye.
cody (17:18.543)
you you could we've caught before ice fishing up to twenty inches.
cody (17:29.259)
they'll they'll throw you for a twist on the graph when you're looking at So but no, after you know, after the NWT, biggest thing with all that cold weather we had, the reservoir itself was not actually warming up like as a whole. So we're the northern part of it was really starting to warm up and we were having to drive north of town, north of Mowbridge, you know, up by Pollock area, you know, for our guide clients up there to get on the fish.
Brian Bashore (17:32.728)
Mm-hmm.
cody (17:57.834)
'Cause it was just bite window after bite window after bite window, but that bite window was two, three hours apart, you know, down south. Yeah, the fish were like, they're just chunky down there in the southern part. And now everything's starting to warm up and now we can stay home a bit more and and the fish are really starting to take off, you know, from the Mowbridge South area. And it's just getting to be it's just getting to be lights out.
Brian Bashore (18:23.818)
It the the amount of big fish I watched them on scope, I watched them feed on herring and I said there for three hours just watching, you know, and when a big fish would fly into that school herring, it would just part. When a little wall I came in and nothing happened. You know, but you could see them crystal clear, like, yep, that's thirty inch, 'cause it would just sit there, it would all part. And if it didn't get one, it was just like only thing left in the screen. You know, and you're like, Look at the size of that thing, you know, and I'm sure there's some pike too.
cody (18:42.855)
Yeah.
Brian Bashore (18:51.512)
And I watched one sit there forever and I got told this on here already, but it was sitting kinda it was kinda low. It was looking up. And I threw a bait in front of it, a crawler or a minnow, nothing. Threw a finisher in front of it. It wouldn't move. Then all of a sudden it just went and it blew up into that school of herring and it it got one. I mean you could tell it it got it. But it wasn't it didn't care it it was locked on and didn't care what I threw and it went in and got one.
cody (19:12.863)
Crazy th and that's you know one that's one thing that a lot of people are missing too is you know the suspended bite out here. Them them big fish are they're not all on the bottom.
Brian Bashore (19:22.508)
No, nope, none of the that one was the closest and he wasn't on the bottom, but he was just kind of sitting like this, you know, and then feeding down. This thing was looking right up at the giant. I just found it it was around that a cask of sandbar area, and there was like just a half mile of herring. And I'm like, well, there's gotta be some fish in here. So just drove around. There wasn't a lot, but then when you found one, there was all of a sudden one two or three more would show up and then they would bust it and they would disappear. And then you kinda had to hunt around and yeah, it was out like probably forty.
you know, thirty five to forty five, fifty feet, but twenty feet down maybe, if even. So
cody (19:57.662)
Yeah, there's there's been a there's been a little of a bite of that going on. even a crankin' bite out there pulling for Or even pulling some spinners, you know. Pulling that down through there twenty foot down, forty, fifty foot. yeah, it could be boring all day, but you just never know when that rod's gonna go off and when they wanna eat.
Brian Bashore (20:18.594)
think it it seemed like y if they were gonna eat, I don't know if it mattered what kind of bait you had in front of they were gonna eat it. But you just they had to be ready to eat. Otherwise it didn't matter at all what you had in front of 'Cause I think the scopers realized that real quick. I mean, that's I'd fought like hell and scoping all week trying to get those big ones to go and they just wouldn't bite nothing. And I'm like, I don't know, I'm gonna get this start cranking and get some reaction bites and caught quite a few fish, but then when the scoping was going, it would it would kinda
It'd throw you for a loop 'cause you'd have you'd just you'd crack for a while. You know, you might get four or five casts and get three or four fish and you're like, All right, I'm on something and then it's it's over and it's it's gone.
cody (20:57.287)
You know, that that's right. It went back to that bite window, you know, on the little bit south of Mowbridge. It was just if you got on that bite window when they wanted to eat, I mean it was lights out and you're like, All right, I mean these things are just tanks. You could sit there again and that bite window that bite window might only last for ten, fifteen, twenty minutes. But it was like it seemed like the whole southern part of the reservoir, when that bite window hit, everything went.
Brian Bashore (21:17.741)
Yeah.
cody (21:24.703)
'Cause I've talked to multiple people, I'm like, you know, that was like that one forty five, two o'clock. And they're like, Yep, it was about two ten, done. I'm like, hmm.
Brian Bashore (21:33.442)
Yep. It was like I had to wait all day and it's way, way, way up done. I had a yep, there was definitely a a two o'clock bite. I think you know a lot of that in the spring. That sun's overhead, that water warms up a couple of three degrees and boom triggers it. That's I think that's when the moon phase thing was going on too, so
cody (21:48.381)
And that was a big thing too, is the moon phase and all that. That was kinda wild that time of the year, but I guess it happens every month, I guess.
Brian Bashore (21:55.501)
Yeah, it's just I mean it's just Yeah, it it's an amazing place, amazing fishery. I'm pissed off at it, so I wanna come back and just go target some big ones and and try to shoot some video again and I don't know, you got some tournaments coming up there. Maybe we'll go up for for the AFCO shootout thing. I think that's during the Green Bay N W T tournament, but I don't I don't care. I'm I think I'd rather go to Millbridge so
cody (22:16.723)
Yeah, look looking forward to that one. That's always a fun one. We did it last year, Gabe and Tyler and I did it and just what a fun day. I mean, just the format, everything, it just yeah.
Brian Bashore (22:28.45)
Yeah, it's very chill. You're going out to catch one giant fish. That's it. And you got like a couple of days to do it and prize is nonstop and you can that I mean, it's kinda like a low pressure type thing, so
cody (22:40.925)
Yeah, you can launch from I think three or four different ramps now and it's just awesome. So I'm glad glad they put all that together and it's it's getting to be a really fun tournament. I'm excited for it this year.
Brian Bashore (22:42.816)
Anyway. Yeah. Yeah.
Brian Bashore (22:51.906)
Yep. It's taken off. I think it's just gonna continue to get bigger, obviously. I mean, you guys it's really in the middle of nowhere in a sense, but I you know, I got guys friends that guide up at Scockwit. I'm like, where you getting all these these clients? These people are driving a long ass ways to come up there. But when you get there you're like, I get it. I understand why you're you're going to fish. It's a fishing trip, but you have people coming down too. I get I got North Dakota guys coming down next week and at some time I'm like, Why are you driving here?
And driving by all these awesome places, you know, but it's a central a lot of them are coming from different directions and that's a nice medium central location, so they pick it. So
cody (23:27.335)
Yep, central location.
I have you know, that this last I had a had a group in, it was a a a grandfather, a son, and a grandson for three days and it's their fifth year coming and he's nine years old now. And I've never had so much fun in the boat. That kid caught sixty, seventy, eighty fish pretty much a day by himself. And he didn't I mean he wasn't I mean he fishes around, you know, Nebraska and everything at some local little ponds and stuff, but I didn't hardly have to teach him anything.
He was reeling all the fish in, he was helping net fish and it's just like that's the best part about guiding is is getting these kids outdoors and and watching them succeed and have fun doing it and the laughs and the smiles and you've probably seen the pictures on New Everett's or whatever. Yeah, no, it's it's just awesome.
Brian Bashore (24:19.394)
Yeah, those are when you got kids that are good and parents that engage with them, like tell to get off their phones or make put it away, you know, or whatever, they get pretty locked on. I mean, you'll get some that I'm always like, just do a half day if they're real little. 'Cause I'm like, even if you're on fish, they're not you know, don't burn out 'cause they're never you know, stick in a boat for eight hours and ninety five degrees or a hundred and fifteen degrees Lake Owahi with flies.
You're never gonna want to come back. So get him, get him, get him. In four hours, you're gonna get you fish anyway. Get your half day trip. You know, but then I'll get some occasionally you got the kid that was probably like you and me that I you can't get me out of the boat. I don't care if I'm catching them or not. I'm just so stoked to be out here. And that and then they're good. They're locked on at a couple just a couple days ago. I thought their brothers they were cousins. And I'm like, you how to do this? We're pitching jigs and slip bobbers in the morning. Dad gets it, he gets it 20, 21.
cody (24:44.412)
Yeah.
Ever.
Brian Bashore (25:13.848)
Well the kid knows and the other one, the cousin, he grabs that and I watch him. I'm like, he doesn't he's okay. He doesn't know any idea. He has no idea what to do with this thing. You know. He made kind of one cast. I'm like, all right, time out. So I'm gonna show you the cadence jigging, cast it, make sure we're holding the spinning reel right side up and everything. He's Yeah, I got I got no clue. You know, but it like his third cast, he catches like an eighteen incher. You know, actually it got he got the first one that morning. I'm like, all right. And then he continued to do pretty good for a while and then it
table kind of turning as the cousin started getting them. But yeah, he was he was having a ball. They, you know, and then they got flat calm and I'm like, all right, this bite's over, but you're I think you had seven of your 12 you could have got. And super like average like 18 something. I'm like, yeah, but you got quality fish this morning. You're getting really good fish. Like we'll go over here and do some the wind picks up, we'll crank on these humps. That's going to be really good. Pull some salmos
And then it's to sit back. Now they're just kinda like chilled and they're all just watching rods. They really got a kick out of that. 'Cause they're jabbing, you know, each other, making jokes, and then the one's like, Come on, man, you need to get one more and one s you know, one rod's catching all right. And then finally the other side catches up and
cody (26:26.715)
yeah, that happens all the time. It's like these one rod, nothing else happens. It's like why? You know, why? And then all of a sudden finally they all
Brian Bashore (26:36.002)
Yep, it was three or four today on one rod. I'm like, there's another rod's got the exact same salmon hornet on it. Why is it not getting bit? So I took another money badger off, put another salmon on, swept changed colors on another salmon, and then bam, bam, bam, bam. And then just like that, they were done. I'm like, it helps when you got more than one rod going. I said, now they're all going, you know, and they picked up a couple eighteen nineteens and but even like today on that date, the dad is just sitting back watching and he's like, You guys just you got it. Real men, you know, and they're just yeah, they're smiling and laughing. I'm like
cody (26:53.384)
Right.
Brian Bashore (27:05.9)
This is good. This is how it's supposed to work.
cody (27:08.327)
Yeah, I I went from, you know, I usually start out, you know, with, you know, three or four guys in the boat, put out six rods, you know, keep it, you know, comfortable. Everybody's got a couple of rods to deal with. Lately it's one rod per person because it's just that fast and furious. It it's crazy. Six six rods trying to put worms on and net fish and and all this stuff is it it gets to be a lot in a boat for a day, but it's fun. I mean, you gotta love what you're doing when you're doing it.
Brian Bashore (27:24.556)
Yeah, you can't keep up with Sit Rot. Yeah.
Brian Bashore (27:36.364)
Yeah. You're just you're lost, you're going sideways and you're trying to s to drive. So you're trying to keep you know on your path. It's yeah.
cody (27:40.805)
Yeah, it's yeah, if it's great if it's dead slick calm out 'cause that's awesome. You just you don't have to worry about anything or no other boats in the way and you put another ten boats in it and twenty mile an hour winds gets a little tricky once in a while.
Brian Bashore (27:45.91)
Right.
No.
Brian Bashore (27:54.199)
Yeah, then it's like I hope you guys are paying attention 'cause you have to do all this while I while I drive. You know, but you got a fish in the net and you got two more going off and you're like you can't get it out of there quick enough, measure you know, whatever, and my boxing is throwing it out and then it's yeah, trying to bait. Yeah, it's I run four. If we're trolling, it's four rods, maybe sometimes a fifth out the back, like on a stern planer or something like that. Bottom bouncers we'll put six out. but lately it's
been jigging a slut bobber, so it's I'll put two bobbers out and give everybody a jigging pull. I'm like, I'll watch these, just holler at ya, bobber down. I'm like, just drop your pole. I mean drop it. Just not in the lake. Drop it in the boat and come back and grab the bobber.
cody (28:25.47)
Yeah.
cody (28:33.503)
No, that's still the best fishing, you know, the the guy can go bobber fishing and find them fish and just want to react on it. That's still still everybody was taught with a bobber pretty much. And that's still always fun to fun to watch.
Brian Bashore (28:44.843)
Right.
It took me a long time to get to the whole slip bobber walleye thing until Devil's Lake and I got on it and I was like, Hey man, this works and now we got super clean water. It's just it's a little tricky on the river, right? Current and things are moving and stuff, but you can obviously find those pockets. But usually when it's going, your bobber isn't gonna drift too far anyway, 'cause they're you know, it hits, they watch it come down and boom, you know, it's tough to beat a a a leech wiggling down there. So
cody (29:04.903)
No, it's not going far.
cody (29:09.938)
Yeah.
cody (29:13.693)
Yeah, I heard some rumor too during the N W T there was a rattlesnake that showed up somewhere somebody's boat too, but I I have no no clue anything about that deal, so
Brian Bashore (29:18.222)
Yeah, right next door to me.
How that got there. It was I think chemos was like three boats down all of a sudden I just heard he screamed like a little girl. I was like, what the hell's going on? And Springle's laughing over there. Chase is fearful of snakes, so he's backed up on the deck there, like, I'm I didn't do it. He's like, I'm not even getting near your boat. Chemos is like cussing and yelling, Who the hell put this snake in here? Come get it out. But that was a big rattlesnake.
cody (29:50.579)
Yeah it was. I haven't really no I had nothing to do with that.
Brian Bashore (29:52.962)
No clue. Nobody hold up to it. Nobody has.
cody (29:57.172)
I think I think everybody knows where it all came from. So
Brian Bashore (29:59.823)
Yeah, probably. But he he truly wanted to blame Chase and Corey and they're both like, I wouldn't touch it dead or alive. They're like, I don't it's I did not put it in there.
cody (30:06.591)
They they grow bigger in western South Dakota, you know, so
Brian Bashore (30:11.386)
Yep. Anyway, they asked I it Cardenas asked her and I in the morning before the tournament doing his little interviews. He's What is it you guys, you know, like about Lake Oahe? And I I was like, I seen mule deer, whitetails, pheasants, turkeys, buffalo, antelope. I'm like, you know, I saw Erie, I saw industrial waste nuclear plants. I see I saw all this crap going to the boat ramps every day. There's nothing beautiful or scenic about it. I mean, granted this Lake Erie and the fishing is amazing, but I'm like
cody (30:32.52)
Yeah.
Brian Bashore (30:40.684)
This is you ca y y you just can't beat this, it's all.
cody (30:43.549)
Yeah, you know you know, God gave us an incredible deal when he made guides to go out on the river and do all that and take people out and fishing and especially on the Missouri. I mean, from North Dakota to all the way down past you guys down there at the scenery's every time I go down there, it just it just blows your mind, the scenery. The stuff you see, the eagles, just amazing.
Brian Bashore (31:06.37)
I bet. yeah. Man, lots of eagles. I I've I've had it, so I'm sure you have. Do you get clients that maybe you got your fish or eat slow or whatever, but they just sit back and they're like, We just go for a boat ride? They just do it's so beautiful. They just want to go see stuff, you know. We get that here. I mean it's cheaper to hire a fishing guide than it is to run a pontoon out of the marina. So like just we just you know, 'cause we'll drive to the other end of the lake to go chase fish and they just
cody (31:21.663)
Yeah.
cody (31:29.575)
Yeah.
Brian Bashore (31:34.808)
taking that all in and we'll fish for a little bit and they're like, That was really cool. Can we just go do that again? You know, drive around and like, Yeah, it's your day. I mean, that's a lot of gas. Gonna go back and forth a couple of times, but, you know
cody (31:47.852)
That gas just a little bit more expensive than it was a few years ago.
Brian Bashore (31:50.946)
Yeah, that that's kinda sucking. So that is
cody (31:53.236)
Well, that's that's that's part of the deal and you know, we realize that as guides, you know, we're in it for we're in it to get our clients happy and get their fish and it if it costs us a little bit extra more in gas, it's what it's gonna cost us and it doesn't matter to us.
Brian Bashore (32:06.464)
Nope. Nope. We're limited. You don't we don't have two hundred miles. We go about fifteen and today I ran all the far far west as you kinda can until you get in the river a little bit. You know, but then we have you know, well, it's what about bathrooms? I'm like, Yeah, you're you don't have one every couple of miles like I do. So I'm like, Well there's one over there and there, but if we gotta go clear into that one, we're probably not gonna come back up here. So if you could wait just a little longer, you know, most of are pretty good about it. So it's like, All right, we're running over here now. So
cody (32:32.979)
Yeah, they're really
Brian Bashore (32:36.256)
It it's yeah.
cody (32:36.625)
No, we you usually carry all the stuff in the boat if we need it, you know, for for everybody. So it makes everybody happy.
Brian Bashore (32:45.26)
And pontoons, you get a tired you got a pontoon out there now, right?
cody (32:48.563)
Yeah, Tyler's got a pontoon this year and I was actually on it a couple Sundays ago for the first time. And we took we took Tyler's two boys out and grilling hot dogs. I'm like, boy Tyler, this is kinda nice. So never know, maybe there'll be a pontoon in the near future.
Brian Bashore (32:54.456)
Freaking nice.
Brian Bashore (33:06.7)
Yeah, one of my guys, Randy Osmourne's got a Ranger Pontoon Tritune. And I've gone with him a couple of times in the fall, I'm like, let me jump on this thing. And sat back. I mean, for one, they're dri they're guiding, so that's kinda nice to not have to be the guy driving the boat, you know, and we're just cruising around that thing, he pulls lead on that like a madman. But I'm like, This is kinda nice. This there's so much room. This is fishable, no problem. We've
fit jigged off it in the fall, you know, he's got a troll motor, a live scope over the side and, you know, what have you. I'm like, Yeah, we're we're gonna have to get another one of these things added to the fleet.
cody (33:43.242)
Tyler put a Tyler put a live scope on the back of his, it's a try-to, and he put it in the back of there facing backwards. And then he's got it up on the front console up there and you can watch it. You don't believe the amount of fish that come up and follow that bottom bouncer and that leader and will not hit it. I mean, they're just right there, just followed it.
Brian Bashore (34:03.106)
Did he just back troll with it then? Is that what he does?
cody (34:05.381)
No, he just going forward with a trolling motor and all that stuff, but he can back troll with it, you know, if the waves get bad. But it is just crazy. And then all of a sudden you just see one come up and just smoke it and you look back on and the rod just sitting there going like this like, Well, that's cool.
Brian Bashore (34:20.748)
Yeah, it is. You're kidding. I have I stuck the pole over and you know, the I have finger mount one, and I'm like, I want to watch the bottom bouncer, even like six, eight feet of water. Drop it down, the bouncer's right there. And I'm like, There's a constant flow of fish. Just it's going right over, and some, like I said, are just following it and following it. That's where you can just kind of pop it and play with it and trigger But you're right, it's like, what are those has to I'm like, we just went over forty fish that you know, you only saw a few of on side image really, but when you put that down, you're like
cody (34:29.886)
Yeah.
cody (34:35.488)
yeah.
Brian Bashore (34:49.016)
There's an absolute there's a pile of down there following this thing around.
cody (34:53.085)
Yeah, and and that's right, you know, go back to that using that, you know, the forward facing in the front of the boat that I have, and you know, it's finding them, hey, there's a pot of six or eight, you know, right here, you know, in fifty feet. You just aim at and all of a sudden you scan back over, or say say it starts raining or something, and you all of a sudden your fish are gone at twelve foot and you just start scanning around and they slid up into eight foot of water. And you get into eight foot and all of a sudden they just this one after another and it's
It's such a useful tool, not just to target specific fish, but as a guiding to you know to put your clients on more fish.
Brian Bashore (35:32.867)
You just you can watch it as the day goes. You're like, they're slipping up. I see a crystal clear. All right, it's ten thirty, the sun's overhead. Bam. There they they're right off the edge today. We're cranking and and it's on up front, but I'm just using a side image problem. Side images, it's behind you already. And we're flatlining 70 feet of braid out. So it you you don't have a lot of time to get it over. But I'm like, I can see them all sitting on the edge of the of the hump. Like not the seven, eight foot on the top. They're right there at eight to nine, ten foot.
But so you look at the trails, all of a sudden the whole last five, six passes are on the edge and then it was just bam, bam, bam, bam. There they were. They started up here and then, you know, they slid out and I'm like the guy was client asking us how do you it kind of looks like we're in the middle of the lake. It's like, how do you why do you start here? Like, well, 'cause the graph says to, right? There's fish on it.
cody (36:22.535)
Yeah. You know, we had for well was it like two, three days we had reverse current. Well they must you know, s not putting much water and the water was coming in from rains and it was all moving back north. Everybody thinks you can't have reverse current on a river, you know? Well you can. And water was pushing back and I just all my fish were in little cups. They're on the northern edge of it where that water was coming up there and all them little cups that they were sitting in, you'd go over and it was just
Brian Bashore (36:38.463)
yeah. Yeah.
cody (36:52.659)
Wow. They're just crazy.
Brian Bashore (36:53.802)
Yep. I have a couple a spot I slip bobber a lot. My bobbers go upstream. And everybody's like I'm like it had a hard west wind there today, which would be coming downstream and the bobbers still went upstream. I'm like, that's what makes this spot special. There's a reason this is why we're catching fish here. Those bobbers are gonna go upstream. Yep.
cody (36:59.378)
Yeah.
cody (37:13.631)
Yeah.
Yeah, no, they like the and fish, when they find spots like that, they they love it. But yeah, so now you know where that water temp on the whole reserve reservoir is getting there. I see a lot of people down by Whitlocks and even down the Cheyenne, heard some reports this is Cheyenne and stuff down there starting to get some fish. So I think the whole thing in general is really starting to warm up a little bit. still a ton of bait fish around and you know hopefully they stick around for a while and don't slide south.
But we're just looking for just an unbelievable epic year. It's already started. I mean it's just that Mulbridge area is such a hot spot.
Brian Bashore (37:48.291)
Yeah. Seeing that everywhere. It was like the spring was up and down and it's like things won't just go, but then they like which typically happens every time this happens with a weird spring is this explodes.
cody (38:04.255)
Yeah, we we went you know last year we went from a I think it's was like June I wanna say like June second or June third, but it was like before that you could put crankbaits down and it'd be nineteen and a half, eighteen and a half, seventeen, thirty-one incher, twenty-nine incher, seventeen incher. I mean it just it was all over the board all day long you're pulling cranks. And in two days that thing snapped and it went from absolutely no cranks anymore.
to worms. No minnows, worms. Leeches, worms, just boom. It was just like, whoa. And it did it again this year. Hundred percent.
Brian Bashore (38:42.518)
Yeah, these fish here you know on c if it's blowing I'll I'll go cranks, but it is it is worms and leeches. It's I heard guys, Well, they're not eating worms yet, I'm gonna use the minnows. I'm like, Are you catching any fish? 'Cause I had sixty one by nine o'clock the other morning and I ain't touched I ain't had a minnow in my boat since mid May, so I don't like
cody (39:02.099)
I think last I think the last two weeks I was going through like anywhere from six to nine dozen crawlers a day with the clients. And then we go smallmouth bass fishing or you know, even even catfishing when it in the deep water, you know, drop a one ounce jig or three quarter ounce jig down and fifty, sixty feet and it's just immediate catfish on. And they're fun, you know, they're just a blast of reel in. So
Brian Bashore (39:15.383)
man.
Brian Bashore (39:27.258)
yeah, they fight. I catfish are in like three foot of water right now, but your smallmouth fishing, we they're spawning down here and we've actually got some decent ones, like what would be an average for for you up there is kind of more of a a good size down here. But yeah, your smallmouth fish on Lake Kawaii is just second to none. That's crazy.
cody (39:37.596)
Refines.
cody (39:48.382)
Yeah, we're we're we were catching they spawned already here. We were catching on the rocks earlier this year, you know, and they were kinda spawned and they're done now. But it was nothing to catch into them eighteen to twenty one inch smallmouths. So it just it was nothing. just what a fight.
Brian Bashore (40:03.534)
Are you seeing more bass tournaments up there?
cody (40:06.559)
you know, I really haven't paid much attention, but I know the fishing crew had that one out of Wahoe. And I think there's the Badlands Bass Bandits, I think. I think they're more out of western South Dakota and North Dakota. I think they're gonna have another one this year up there.
Brian Bashore (40:13.784)
Yeah.
Brian Bashore (40:25.622)
I can't we've had way more than I've ever seen down here. Lewis and Clark used to be known as a bass fishery. Bass Masters is here back in the nineties. it's all kind of went away and changed, but they're making a nice little comeback now that the water's cleaner and getting good vegetation. But I saw there's days last year I saw more bass boats out there, walk guys. I'm like, what in the hell is going on? They had some little nation tournaments. They small 20 boat tournaments maybe. but they were getting some pretty good bags. I don't I fish here every day and I I don't know where the hell Large Martha.
cody (40:44.169)
Yeah.
Brian Bashore (40:55.372)
or at, but can catch the balls the smallies, but yeah, they're showing up. I mean, I think in Francis Case has quite a few of but the small mouth thing in South Coast's catching on. Yeah. Yeah. I mean it's
cody (41:03.423)
I'd like to see Master come back. That'd be fun. I I drove a camera boat around for a couple of days and you wanna talk about a good time. That was a blast.
Brian Bashore (41:13.447)
did you go to the elites and peer?
cody (41:16.111)
No, the one they had up here on Oahu. I got it on a had it on Mobridge here a couple of years ago. And yeah, that was awesome. I think Robertson lost his had tidy whitey's on that day of final Sunday. Tyler was at Tyler was actually in the camera boat that was on Robertson and he's texting me going, You better turn the livestream on He said Robertson just lost his pants. I was like, my
Brian Bashore (41:18.675)
yeah, they were up there too, that's right.
Brian Bashore (41:29.366)
Yep. Yeah.
Brian Bashore (41:44.162)
That was did they have a delay start there one morning?
cody (41:49.703)
I I can't remember if they did or not.
Brian Bashore (41:52.399)
Is that the one Mark Daniels Jr. one? so that was the first one they had there was Mark one, because I was at that one. Then they had another one a couple years later.
cody (41:54.833)
No, it was
Brian Bashore (42:03.554)
Yeah, i it was like this two years ago.
cody (42:03.871)
I know the same Seth Fighter and Robert Johnson. Did one of the Johnson boys win it?
Brian Bashore (42:08.248)
Yeah, it sounds about right. Yeah, Mark was in eighteen or something like that. Nineteen. It was a while ago. That was when out of here. You had one like two years ago. I yeah, I remember I couldn't make it to that one. Yep.
cody (42:16.925)
Yeah, just
cody (42:23.387)
Just this whole fishery in general is just it every year you think you're gonna have a well, I wonder what it's gonna be with the bait and everything and the these fish just show up every year and I I think the game fish and parks are doing a good job with, you know, managing everything on the reservoir for the most part. And there are just so many fish that I mean everybody says well you're gonna fish it out of the big ones and there's no way you're gonna do that.
Brian Bashore (42:49.652)
No, I think I mean most people are unless you're hanging on the wall, they're going back. Obviously there's kill tournaments in South Dakota now from June till September fifteenth, so you're gonna get some at the Gov's Cup and the you know, the few tournaments. But there's a lot. I mean there's a lot more big ones there than I thought there was. So I'm yeah, I I think I don't think you need to worry about killing out and they're growing fast and and eating well. What what what more tournaments you got coming up this summer? We've got the Acasca thing, obviously. Any other ones?
cody (43:17.875)
The Afco the Afco one, but I'm pretty much focusing everything to just, you know, guiding the rest of the year, you know, the summer and the days that I have left and you know when I can get off, you know, from the ranch. But I'm just gonna focus on doing that and getting all the you know, the getting the fish for the clients and enjoy seeing them. You know, they're always texting you, Hey, I'm be up there in a week or how's the fishing? Hey, it's amazing, look forward to seeing ya. Just the camaraderie you get with your clients is is is awesome.
And that's what really makes it fun to be in a guide.
Brian Bashore (43:49.014)
Yep, yep, for sure. We ain't getting no state record this year. I mean they're there. That's a big fish, but they're there.
cody (43:50.781)
So
cody (43:55.08)
Well Yeah, you know the funny thing was Tyler and I were the first two to ever put a walleye nation reaper down in Lake Owai. He found them at a sports show in Omaha, I think two thousand eighteen. And sent me a picture. He's like, These things are gonna be awesome, you know, they look like a you know, Cisco or Lake Herring and everything and like, Yeah. We went out and started putting it down. They only had we only had like three colors. And
It's like, we're catching big fish. Like, this is crazy. Hey, don't say anything to anybody, you know, because we're using these in the tournaments. You know MW MWC tournament, you know, catch a 13 8, which is behind me on the wall. And it's like, we got something figured out with this and nobody else is using And then it got to the point talking with Brian and Bill and everything, it's like, you know what, let's blow this up. So we started
Brian Bashore (44:34.76)
Right. Let's keep this under under wraps for a little bit.
cody (44:57.053)
blowing it up and yeah. Well now look at the state records that come from it. So
Brian Bashore (45:01.804)
Yep. Yeah, they do match that bait pretty well up there. for sure. I know some of my buddies that fished that tournament right before the NWT. That's they were using I think he had a switch over. That's what his practice is like, you gotta have one. Then he then they just kind of turned off and went on to a flicker shad or something for some weird reason that day. But I'm like, we were actually trolling really small baits and having better luck, like number five flickers, rap rap like countdowns, little I mean just little suck.
Three inch baits.
cody (45:32.231)
Yeah, I had I had I had quite a bit of luck on the Reapers, you know, for the big fish. I also had the little Reaper down. That was producing some really nice, awesome fish too. So and the one that's getting to be pretty good for guidance is you the boogie shad. That thing you get the speed going a little bit higher on it, that thing has just been a game changer. So but thank you for
Brian Bashore (45:54.009)
Fish are not bright, they can be picky. All right. Yeah, they they they're just one thing about a certain bait some days that makes them this picky and that's it triggers them and
cody (46:01.513)
Yep. And there's there's days where I can go out and I can't get bit on a Reaper. And it's just it happens. It's not like, you know, I'll have it down every day I'm out, but there's days you just they just don't want it.
Brian Bashore (46:06.87)
Right.
Brian Bashore (46:13.762)
Just that's just not it today. They're back to a crawler. So well, as a guide, I'm sure you're like me. It's if I don't have to use live bait, I don't I don't want to, 'cause it's just a pain in the ass.
cody (46:17.203)
Yep.
cody (46:22.845)
Yeah. I you know, I I don't mind it, you know, washing the crawlers and all that stuff in the morning kind of gets you up and have a cup of coffee, get it done. But yeah, it's gets a little bit dirtier. But yeah. I like, you know, the the bottom bouncing with the clients. It like you know, at least they're they can hold the rod in their hand and stuff like that. When you're pulling cranks it's more hey just watch it, see if it goes off, you know. And sometimes if you get kids, you know, it gets a little more boring in there for So you keep something, keep active.
Brian Bashore (46:52.248)
For sure. I'd I'd prefer not to crank if I don't have to, but there's days you you have to or if they're just that's the skill level is pick it up and reel it in. I'm like, this might be the best for you, you know. And then some will ask for it. You know, we pull a lot of lead like you do, and some guys want to learn how to pull lead, you know. They've heard about it, never seen it. And we're educators, right? First and foremost out there than anything. and that's all my guys today were like just learning. And he's like, Well, we learned so much. Now we know when we come back to you know, they got a pontoon and whatever, but they don't live far away, but they're like we just can't
cody (46:59.881)
Yeah.
Brian Bashore (47:22.466)
figure it out. And again today they did four different techniques. So
cody (47:24.189)
Yeah, I had I had a pretty good teacher. I had a pretty good teacher teach me how to pull edit as co as a co angler on it was Chamberlain one year, guy by the name of Jason Shakurit.
Brian Bashore (47:37.676)
Yeah, yeah, he may know a thing or two, so
cody (47:39.775)
He goes, I don't know, let it out till it hits bottom and reel it up till six times. If it still hits bottom, reel it up six more times. Like, that's easy. Yeah. So hey, it's his birthday today too. So
Brian Bashore (47:44.492)
Yeah.
Brian Bashore (47:48.386)
Bottoms up. Yep.
Is it? Hey, Everbird Dead Jason. Fifty. What was Jason? 55, maybe. He's getting up there. He's an old goat, Hall of Famer. He's having a good year. He's off to a good start, having a good season. That's good. We're off to Bait and Knock. So this thing will air. We'll be while we're up at Bay Tnock, chasing chasing another deal. Sounds like they're a little short on co's. Hope they got that resolved before here. Mulbridge, massive turnout. Hundred and what do we have? 160.
cody (47:58.89)
Seventy one or something like that.
cody (48:03.919)
Yeah. Yeah.
cody (48:20.479)
Hundred hundred and sixty boats, I mean unbelievable.
Brian Bashore (48:22.584)
Hundred and sixty record setting. I kinda figured that was gonna happen. Obviously with the whole fish to get in for next year type stuff. You guys got in on basically the last chance you get to get in, you know, just jump in for the one tournament, which of course you're gonna, right? I mean it's gonna suck when they come back and you can't get in it, you know, or I'm they're gonna go to Chamberlain or somewhere and I'm like, I don't get to go, you know, whatever the case may be, but it's whatever.
cody (48:37.331)
Yeah.
cody (48:47.177)
Yeah, it'll be interesting to see what they do for the format and who they're gonna take, you know, and how many they're gonna take. So
Brian Bashore (48:52.472)
They already changed it to a hundred instead of sixty five. so it's gonna take the top eighty in points now, not the top fifty five. So now it's like eighty from the NWT in points and then ten D V C's and then ten N T Cs or something like that. So they're so I kind of figured 'cause I didn't know how that was gonna work with the payouts and entry fees are gonna have to go way up with a sixty five field. So yeah, they've already brought it up to a to a hundred. They shot the pressure lease out to week or two, maybe two or three weeks ago.
cody (48:55.391)
Well they didn't know, they didn't
cody (49:07.043)
nice.
Brian Bashore (49:21.814)
It was right a week after Mobridge. They're Hey, we're made some changes, jumping this up. What I did notice was they took out those A Angler of the Years that were already qualified in. Those aren't in the new settings. So but they're all in the top eighty anyway. Well, Hoyer fell out, but he's got two tournaments coming up where he'll slide right back up in there. So I thought
cody (49:32.659)
really?
cody (49:41.811)
No, it it'll be interesting to see and see how they do. I think they really saw with the Mowbridge with the people that I don't think you can get by with sixty boats when you got a hundred and sixty that are willing to sign up and you know and go fishing.
Brian Bashore (49:53.101)
Yeah. And that's I mean that's what we we need and we want and it makes the payouts bigger, the payout longer, more exposure, more experiences for everybody. You know, I lotta co' ask which ones the ones to get into. Mobridge always knew was could throw you a curveball and it kind of threw us a curveball, but like you know, it's the one you're gonna get the chance to fish the most, quite possibly, 'cause there'll be maybe blind casting. I had my guys, we're shallow, didn't like just pitch away and then trolling, you know. Yeah.
cody (50:09.415)
Good then.
cody (50:19.677)
Yeah.
Brian Bashore (50:22.966)
Yeah, and then eerie just 'cause there's a lot of fish. I'm like the next two is a hundred percent been living on the live scope and you you may just be a net man back there. I don't know. So it's it's tough.
cody (50:31.729)
Yeah. No, that that was the cool thing about Moebridge, you know, and is coming up here is you can fish, you can pull crankbaits, you can pitch, you can forward face sonar, you can pull bottom bouncers, you can Lindy rig, you can like blind cast ashore. I mean it just so many different techniques that and they all came into play I think for everybody. You know, either one of one or two, three of the scenarios did. So
Brian Bashore (50:54.306)
Yep. Yeah, everything works. You know, you can fish how you want to, fish to your strengths. So the fall bite is well known up there. What do you what do you know about it? What do you recommend people book with you guys? They wanna come get on a trophy, October, November's the time to come.
cody (51:09.501)
You know, it it's all weather dependent and, you know, time dependent on when the water starts to cool down. You know, you see all them fish that are out in the trees deep, you know, in in July and August and September. Usually later September, you know, the water starts to cool down a little bit, depending what the the weather does. You know, October, middle October, later October seems to be the best for the time. your chance at a fish of a lifetime is obviously better than any.
you know, on the days weather permitting and stuff like that. But it'll it'll be at thirty, forty degrees out there, maybe fifty degrees with the sun shining. But it just it's fun. It's fun to go hook into a lot of fish. And it's not even necessarily just the big ones because you can be pulling along crankbaits and boom, you get a nineteen and seven eighths, or you get eighteens and three rods go off. One of them's a ten, twelve pounder and one two of them are, you know, nice unders.
So it's just they're they're all mixed in. It's not like you're absolutely targeting, you know, just the one, you know, when you're pulling crankbaits. And we do a lot of that, you know, as guides. It's tough to do the forward facing as a guide. The other people in the boat get kind of bored back there and and we tend not to like to do that. But if you get a couple of them that say, Hey, we want to go live scoping today, all right. Let's go.
Brian Bashore (52:19.214)
Yeah, for sure.
Brian Bashore (52:26.264)
Yep. Yeah, as long as you know you're signing up for it. You request it and you want to go target we'll go target but yeah, if you're gonna
cody (52:29.939)
Yeah. And the the easiest thing to do is, you know, get a hold of Gabe at New Everett's Resort in Glenham, South Dakota. you get the people that come out there, they're just so impressed with the hospitality, the meals, the lodging, everything. They just have a blast. And get a hold of Gabe at New Everett's Resort and call him and see what he's got for openings and be more than happy to get you guys on the water with us this fall.
Brian Bashore (52:57.782)
It is the bar top's awesome, the food is phenomenal, you know, it's a it's a great great people, great crowd, great camaraderie. Gabe's a great dude. I had I met Gabe in Green Bay on like one of my first NWT tournaments. He was my co angler. I don't think I caught anything that day. So, you know, and he's like, Don't worry, I've been here before. I'm like, I suck. I've never been to this lake, I have no idea. Yeah, I don't think I caught crap. I think I had one seven pounder the next day. So it was not
cody (53:24.607)
You and we we encourage a lot of people too, you know, that if they want to do it yourself, you know, you can come out. But, you know, the rates and everything are just so affordable to come out and drive a vehicle from wherever and stay and it's all inclusive food and yeah, it just it's the place to be.
Brian Bashore (53:40.606)
It's kind of a no brainer with fuel prices nowadays. You're you leave your boat at home 'cause what it's gonna cost you to pull it, you just pay the guide that and you don't have to do anything. And that's that was your gas money from pulling the boat, from getting eighteen miles a gallon to nine miles a gallon. That's the difference. You know, there was your
cody (53:45.449)
Exactly.
cody (53:53.395)
Yeah.
cody (53:59.316)
And Lake Oahee can be very intimidating if you're never been there before. That's a two hundred two hundred and fifty miles.
Brian Bashore (54:02.348)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's you know, people worry about going to Great Lakes and stuff. I'm like, You haven't been on Oahe or Skokwe or something like that when the wind comes up 'cause it's a surprise on the Great Lakes, you know it's coming. There's, you know, small craft advisories. You turn the bend, you know, up at Owahi or something like that, and all of a sudden you're like, crap and it's fifteen, twenty miles back to your launch or a launch. So
cody (54:27.835)
Yeah. We were just actually talking about that the last time NWT was in Chamberlain when that tornado and everything come up and we were just talking about that the other night as guides at the resort. I've never been on water, every anything like that ever. And we get some nasty stuff up here once in a while, but that was wild.
Brian Bashore (54:43.342)
That was
Brian Bashore (54:46.902)
I remember I just I had moved from down there, I pulled out of what Walworth, whatever that ramp is, and I went up to the casino, put in, went out just a little ways, boom, lightning started coming. I'm like turned around and right back to the ramp. Loaded. At the time I pulled up, you know, that steep ramp and just parked. I looked back and there was boats flying in and they couldn't get loaded. The wind was so bad blowing up the ramp. They just went and stuck
cody (54:48.543)
Well.
Brian Bashore (55:16.258)
And they just crawled up underneath the consoles. And I text all the Takasaki and Brent and Randy that were with me. And I'm like, get off the water. You know, 'cause they're way down south. And they're like, it's beautiful down here. I'm like, it's coming. Get off the water now. And towards the dock. And they were like, Okay. You know. And then when I got back to New Everest, the ditch was full of hail. It looked like it had two inches of snow.
cody (55:16.607)
Yep.
cody (55:32.585)
Yeah.
cody (55:37.003)
yeah, it was crazy. But
Brian Bashore (55:38.638)
Yeah, it was absolutely brutal. I'm like glad we got out there when we did. So All right, folks, there you go. Head up to give Gabe a call. Get out there with Cody and Tyler and the guys at New Everett's chase some monsters. Come out South Kota and crack another state record. If not I mean you definitely got a P V.
cody (55:53.556)
That's what we're looking for. I I had it in my I had it in my boat. I had it in my boat at one point in time. Actually it's the one in the back there, the the client actually got me a replica of it. So the one on the top, that one was we had it at sixteen fifty eight, sixteen fifty eight and sixteen fifty seven, fifty eight and fifty nine on the scale. And it spit up six gizzard shad in the live well and I was on a guide trip and my client caught it and certified at sixteen zero zero.
So yeah.
Brian Bashore (56:24.726)
What are we now? Seventeen?
cody (56:27.375)
Seven I just might as well say eighteen. So seventeen point nine two I think is what it is, but Keith Pizzora got that on a Reaper. So but
Brian Bashore (56:30.08)
It's like seventeen eight nine or something like that. Seventeen nine two. Yeah.
Brian Bashore (56:37.42)
Yep. That's a big fish. I know Steer brought one of his like fifteen pounders at a boat show and it it had a couple eights next to it. And they look like it it looked like it could eat I'm like, freaking big is that? It's like a twenty pounder. He's like, no, it's like a it was a thirty four inch or maybe, but it was a fifteen something pounder from a white. I'm like, it it it was a different species almost. It was so massive.
cody (56:49.46)
Yeah.
cody (57:01.853)
Yeah, it's once you get above they get into that thirty one range in there, it's just a whole different just a whole different fish. With just the face and the head and everything, it's just it's just different.
Brian Bashore (57:11.0)
Yeah, I th yeah.
Brian Bashore (57:15.362)
Yep. I've been there a couple times to get a thirty from my wall from there. And I and I got last time I got one, it only weighed like six pounds. So it's not a bottom bouncer. I gave up, sculpted it. I was like, I had a hubmy bird back then and make it alive. And I was catching this fish. I'm like, you what? I'm just gonna throw a slow death and a bouncer. Boom, boom, boom, caught three. It was during the Gov Cup, but I wasn't in it, so I was staying at a bob's resort fishing that around that area. And my bam bam, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen. Nice slots. Next one, boom.
cody (57:23.567)
What?
Brian Bashore (57:44.889)
30, 30 and a quarter. And it gets up, big head, and I net it, and I'm like, what the hell? It was like a it wasn't even six pounds, like five and a half, six pounds. It was skinny, it was sicker, and I'm like, well, this this ain't gonna work. Threw it back. I look back, it's floating up between the big motor and kicker motor. I had a I threw it in a live oil, knifed it. I'm like, this thing is sick, it's got a disease. I mean, it's yeah. It was hot as hell out, it wasn't gonna make it.
cody (57:58.633)
No.
cody (58:11.421)
Yeah, we just we're still seeing, you know, a lot of them fish, you know, sitting up in that eight, ten, twelve foot, there's still, you know, a lot of the locals are out running around and fishing on the nice days and they'll they'll come in with a twenty eight, twenty nine, thirty, you know, all the time. It's just pulling a bottom bouncer and you know they decide they want to slide up and eat, they're gonna eat. So they're not all that deep and not everybody says they're or everybody thinks they're all deep and everything, but they're not. They're up there in that shallow stuff. So
Brian Bashore (58:39.138)
Yeah, they're gonna go where the bait is. I there's deep bait but there's that shallow bait and fish, right?
cody (58:43.013)
Yep. Everybody's got the chance everybody's got the chance of catching one. So
Brian Bashore (58:47.382)
Yep, that is the the good thing about that place is it's if you're not gonna get the state record, you're gonna probably get your personal best. So if you're coming out to chase the trophies, I sent some guys there I had for a couple days this year and I told to go up there. Next year 'cause they're coming from North Dakota and they wanted to go chase big, big ones. I'm like, Yeah, we're we're getting a half a dozen twenty seven to twenty nines a year here. You can get half a dozen in a day up there. So I'm like, you need to go up there, call these guys, target trust me. Or over I think I gave your number and a wall and Chad's. I'm like,
Whoever's got openings, you're they're all gonna put you on some fish and they're big. Well
cody (59:20.851)
Yeah, I'm that's just getting to the point now or like even you know, we're just filling up so fast even in the summer through New Everts and and we we're still like I said, you know, give Gabe a call and we'll get you try get you s slipped in there and for the fall bite and all that, so
Brian Bashore (59:35.03)
Alrighty. Awesome, Cody. Thanks a bunch. Leave everybody with a you got a tip or a fun fact or something to share with them. What do we not know about Cody?
cody (59:37.427)
Yeah, yeah.
cody (59:43.839)
Brian Bashore (59:45.304)
Or a fishing tip, you got a little nugget.
cody (59:49.022)
You know, the biggest thing is, is just watching watching your graphs. You know everybody y you know, spend a little bit of money on your graphs and upgrade those and that's the biggest thing about going out that a lot of people don't understand is watch them graphs. They're gonna tell you a lot. And the more time you spend behind them, the better you're gonna be as a fisherman.
Brian Bashore (01:00:11.116)
Yep, yep. Said it a billion times. Master your master your graphs, your electronics, you'll be a master angler. It's that simple. Like the guy that asked Dave, why why do you pick this spot? Why are we here? I'm like, 'cause the screen says to be here. I was like, if there's nothing on the screen, so then I showed him on side image what they look like. And he's like, Okay, I'm like, We know, but I'm turning, I'm like, there's nothing there right now. I'm like, just give it a second. Then I get to the edge, I'm like, Those. I'm like, but if there's nothing on there, I'm like, We reel up and leave. We're we don't fish here. 'Cause
cody (01:00:23.303)
It's exactly what it showed me. They're here.
Brian Bashore (01:00:40.866)
The the electronics don't lie. They're just too damn good now.
cody (01:00:42.783)
Yeah, no, they don't. And it I I I would say one more thing, you know, my biggest thing is I love having kids in the boat, take a kid fishing. And the deal that Kurt Underhill put on this week or today, down there with the fishing crew and they're I can't remember the name, but I don't wanna mess it up right now. But I saw Sieverdings post and everything and that's awesome. You know, the the deal they're doing with the the special needs kids and everything, or special needs people.
Brian Bashore (01:01:05.238)
A special needs or something like that, I think, or some Yep.
Yep.
cody (01:01:10.363)
Hands down, one hundred percent amazing job to all the guides that were down there fishing with them and Kurt Underhill for putting that on. You know, props to you guys. You deserve you deserve a big one there.
Brian Bashore (01:01:22.806)
Yep, no doubt. Kurt's really really making waves and getting that thing up and running back to kind of where it needs to be and what what the state really needs a bigger, you know, local powerhouse type circuit like that. We need to get some bigger numbers in some of those, but it it's just he's getting it there. Getting the media stuff. He's rolling, he's putting he's putting the work in, there's no doubt about it. So
cody (01:01:43.283)
Yeah. No, I I watched some of their on the water stuff today, you know, some videos and s and things with it it just it just melted my heart. It was just it was awesome to watch that. So props to you guys all down there in Pierre area for doing that. So
Brian Bashore (01:01:57.44)
Right on, right on. And yep, good job, Kurt. All right, Cody. Thanks for joining us and sharing. Everybody's pretty stoked and they're gonna phone's gonna be ringing and we all wanna run to Owahi. I'd I I'm going to Bait and Oc in a week 'cause I want to go chase some giants, but I July the schedule's not too booked and I'm like I'm told the wife, I'm like, you what, fourth July, we're close. We should run them to O Wahi for a couple three days. You know You know, I'm like she loves it up there too and I'm like but she also knows that it's like we're just fishing.
cody (01:02:10.463)
Yeah.
cody (01:02:18.547)
Yeah. Yeah, well come on up. So
Brian Bashore (01:02:27.074)
You know, but do well in the in the super hot stuff. So I'm like
cody (01:02:27.23)
Yep.
cody (01:02:31.187)
Yeah, now fourth of July up there, as we know we have all sorts of things going on at the resort. An amazing, huge fireworks show. Hopefully I don't get hit in the face again this year. Look forward to hearing from everybody and thanks Brian for having me on and having a little chat. So it was awesome.
Brian Bashore (01:02:41.166)
Yeah, no, no, don't do that.
Brian Bashore (01:02:46.893)
They are way.
Brian Bashore (01:02:55.496)
Awesome, awesome. All right, folks, thanks for tuning in. And you can catch us over on YouTube or the Walla Guys Facebook page, and I'll tag you guys in it, and you share it as well. And it's Spotify, Google, Amazon, Apple Podcasts, anywhere you're listening, pleasure. you're taking a long road trip on your way to Oahu to catch some big ones, listen in, get you all pumped up to go see Cody and the guys and Gabe up there and and get on some lunkers. So stay safe, keep those lines tight, and we'll see you on the water.
cody (01:03:22.644)
Thank you.