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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to man in America. I'm your host, Seth Hohaus. So today, I have one of my favorite people to talk to. And not because I agree with everything he says, but because he's such an independent and, I think, pretty brilliant thinker that's Cliff High. Now you could say that maybe he's bordering on that range of kind of mad genius, and I I have to, you know, I would agree with that.
Seth Holehouse:I think it's a good thing, because what it means that he's questioning the fundamental things that we think to be true in our reality. And we look back at how much of our so called reality has been constructed as a cage around us, I think that questioning the fundamentals of what we think to be true is a really good thing. So, actually, I just finished this interview with Cliff. Now, this is I'm doing the intro afterwards. We talked for about an hour and a half.
Seth Holehouse:It's a really, really engaging conversation. We go into some crazy topics. I mean, of course, we go into a lot of stuff about outer space and the moon in the middle of the discussion, which is great. But we we talk a lot about what's coming next. What's 2024 look like?
Seth Holehouse:What's Trump's plan? Is the military involved? You know, is the whole military compromised? Does Trump still have a lot of say? I mean, is are they gonna be involved in the elections?
Seth Holehouse:I mean, there's there's a really interesting, chunk that we get into with that towards the end. We also get into the banking system. What's going on with the banking system? What does he expect to see happening? In addition to that, you know, precious metals, Bitcoin.
Seth Holehouse:So as you'd expect, it's an incredibly engaging discussion with Cliff. And actually, the first probably twenty minutes to thirty minutes, I found to be so interesting because we're talking about this measurable way of looking at the great awakening. And it's just gonna it's gonna blow your mind the way this guy thinks. So I hope you enjoy this interview. Before we get started, I've got a few quick announcements.
Seth Holehouse:For one, we're giving away silver. So for all the Man in America family, we're giving away five ounces of pure silver every Friday. So if you wanna enter to win that five ounces of pure silver to a five generic rounds, buffalo rounds, just go to SilverSeth.com or go to maninamerica.com/win. So if SilverSeth doesn't work on your browser, it's maninamerica.com/win. You enter your name and your email once and you're automatically entered in every Friday again for the Friday drawing of the five ounces of free silver.
Seth Holehouse:Also, every show I do is also done as a podcast. So if you wanna listen instead of watch, just go to your favorite podcast app and search for Man in America, and you'll find me there. Alright, folks. Enjoy this mind bending and interesting conversation with Cliff High. Cliff, it is great to have you back on.
Seth Holehouse:It was such an interesting interview the first time around, and I've just got I've got so many questions. And there's just I think there's a lot to talk about. So thanks again for being here.
Speaker 2:Sure. No worries at all. Yep.
Seth Holehouse:So, there's I've got a whole list of questions here. So I'd say, one of the big ones I wanna first jump into is, you know, we're heading into the election year. It feels like the the deep state, the cabal, they're at a very desperate place. A lot of the Americans that may have voted for Joe Biden before now have woken up. They're seeing the problems of the current administration everywhere.
Seth Holehouse:They're questioning the elections. What do you see happening? And what are some of your data sets saying as we're going into, say, the next, say, three, six months into the election year next next year? I mean, what do you expect to unfold during this period?
Speaker 2:I don't have much in the way of expectations, but I have some stuff out of my data that seems to describe, 2024, and I'm not going to call it an election year, okay, for various different reasons. So we're at war now. We've been at war basically for I I mean, you wanna think about it the way I do it, we've been at war for about thousand years with these same Khazarian people that are trying to take over the planet. As you are you are quite correct, the deep state, the Khazarian mafia is very desperate at the moment. Okay?
Speaker 2:They are escalating because the great awakening is happening. They have within their group some small number of them that recognize that this is a phenomenon that is beyond their control. It has to do actually, factually, with increased emanations from the galactic center waking us all up, and the great awakening is not a misnomer. Okay? And there's nothing that Khazarians can do about this, including slaughtering people, but they're starting to do that.
Speaker 2:Okay? So the deep state is at war with us. What I do expect is that that war in this next six months will break out into the open into the Normie Mines in a a sharp very, very, very sharp way, and I'll explain that in a second, such that it will occupy all of the places that are now occupied by the unraveling of the political illusion. Okay? So all of those people that are worried about, the Biden regime or Obama or they're coming to terms with the fact that Obama is gay and and Michelle is a guy and they rented those kids and all of this other stuff, all of those people will be jolted into an awareness of a war, and they will have to try and cope in sort of a rush.
Speaker 2:Okay? Because they're gonna jump and leap right out of the, normie world of, politics in a degrading America to a much greater view of what's going on. And they will understand that we're in World War three, and World War three is being fought with dues, and that's the news. Right? That it's not it's not your papa's World War two.
Speaker 2:It's not that not going back or going forward into this new functioning. And the deep deep state is the enemy. It's not nation state versus nation state. This is gonna be very difficult for people to wrap their heads around. So, yes, perhaps the plunger on Maui was pulled or or a button was pushed by a guy in China who is a CCP fellow.
Speaker 2:But it doesn't mean that China, the nation state, nor China, the people, attacked Maui. Okay? It means that an arm of the deep state within the CCP attacked Maui on the orders of the deep state. We're going to have a an event of some form, or a series of events of some form. So I'm connected with remote viewers, the best remote viewers on the planet, okay, bar none.
Speaker 2:The only remote viewers that might be better are ones we don't know about because they're hidden so deep. Okay? I'm not going to say what those remote viewers have been telling me because I have not been given permission. They have to release this information on their own. What I will say is that they are echoing what my numbers are showing.
Speaker 2:Okay? So I have a I have this thing called building tension value, And I have a release tension value. And these this is building emotional tension, and this is release of emotional tension. The words can be the same. The descriptors can be the same, but all the adjectives would be different, and the emotional aspect of it would be different.
Speaker 2:And in building tension, it's like you're trying to describe your anxiety or your your crunching in on yourself in some aspect relative to something that's pushing on you from the outside. In release language, you're jumping up and down and releasing all that emotion. These two, whatever the the value of them, the delta, the difference, has a has a finite range, and it ranges from three point something up to 5.85. Five point eight five is our maximum now. That's our maximum, delta between, release and building tension, and it fluctuates.
Speaker 2:Every single time I do these runs, it fluctuates some degree. Sometimes building tension is larger. Sometimes release tension is larger. Since 02/2001, building tension has had a tendency to dominate, okay, since 02/2001. Now we are in a situation where we have this, that we have two sets of values, and the the now, the delta between these is 81.8695 eight six nine five.
Speaker 2:Okay? So this is 13 times my maximum usual standard deviation range. 13 times. So so, in a standard the way standard deviations work, a single standard deviation is something that a engineer might pay attention to, especially in bridges and and that kind of thing. Two times standard deviation is something that an engineer would wanna pay attention to in energy mechanics.
Speaker 2:It means your your engine is not working the way it should, that kind of thing. Three times standard deviation in anything, any aspect of engineering is a catastrophe. Alright? We're at 13 times that now in and it's dominating with release tension. Alright?
Speaker 2:So, the last time we had a significant dominant release language event was 02/2001. Okay. The the so that was the the nine eleven attack. Everybody released for for months afterwards. It was just a real dominate dominating with release of emotional tension.
Speaker 2:Even at that point, it was less than than the standard deviation range. Right? So now we're 13 times higher. So the remote viewers are echoing what I'm seeing. They have some level of, they have different methods, different, characterizations of what's going on.
Speaker 2:But in Maine, they would echo that something is going to occur. It's going to occur in the near or or immediate time frame, and it's gonna be dominated by release, language. So Maui was dominated by release language up to the point that the feds came in and started putting up the barriers. Now everything's all tension. Everybody's getting all tense about it.
Speaker 2:They're they're getting angry and so forth in a way that they didn't get angry with that attack. You can actually see the language in the various articles. Go back and read something about the event, and and everybody's out pouring all of their grief, etcetera, etcetera. And now it's all anger about the, the way everybody's being treated. Okay.
Speaker 2:So they the Fed came in and turned.
Seth Holehouse:So so I just wanna make sure I'm I'm tracking this right. So, basically, in in as a simple way of me understanding it, it's almost as if the cabal has to maintain a balance of release and the building of this tension. And so, like, you know, the We the People, the average Americans or the average people on Earth, it's like, they'll push us a little bit that they're monitoring this. Our tension comes up, then we can relieve that that tension just to feel like, okay, it's okay again. That's how they get us to get distracted back with the circus.
Seth Holehouse:So that's how they keep it to a level. It's like, we get really pissed off, and then we feel like we accomplished something. It's like, oh, well, you know, Durham did this. It's like, oh, okay. Let's calm back down.
Seth Holehouse:But what's happening right now, it's almost like it's like when you watch, like, a trailer being pulled behind a truck that starts swaying, it gets to a certain point where it starts whipping so violently that the only thing that can happen is a is a catastrophe. So is that kind of what's happening? Okay.
Speaker 2:Correct. Correct. Okay. So I don't know how much control the cabal actually exercises over the building intention. I don't know that they consider it this way, but in fundamental effect, they manage it this way.
Speaker 2:Right? They don't want enough people to ever wake up that the Khazarian mafia can be seen behind all of the illusion they put out. Right? And so we have that now. The illusion is breaking down.
Speaker 2:The ADL is under attack. That's one of their primary enforcers. Right? So all of these things are breaking down for them. As it is breaking down, if they used to have control over this alright, so we could look at it two ways.
Speaker 2:We could look at that we're gonna have a breakout emotional event that they won't be able to control that will will further enhance our great awakening. Right? And that that event is not necessarily initiated by them. Alright? Or we could look at it at the opposite, that we're gonna have a breakout event.
Speaker 2:They won't be able to control the aftermath of it because too many people will be awake to what's going on, but they created it. Okay. So one way they could so, basically, what you were describing, maintaining the balance here is a method of keeping us under control, dampening it down. Right? Dampen down the hunger with a little bit now and put it off a little bit later, that kind of a thing, which we've been under for, you know, hundreds of years.
Speaker 2:Okay. So another way to look at it is that they're so desperate that they must do a major attack in order to cause as much damage and as much chaos as possible in order that they may assert control in the midst of that chaos, which is what they do. They have a tendency to create the nine eleven incident. Right? So if we looked at, the attack on the towers in terms of its release language, we are looking at something that's going to have 13 times more release language.
Speaker 2:That will manifest both in, spiking values immediately, but also in duration. It'll have to go on for a long time in order for this to work its way out of all the people. This is gonna exacerbate the deep state's worries and problems relative to the great awakening. Because the longer we're in this upset state in this upset state, they don't have control. Right?
Speaker 2:What they work on is basically fracturing your concentration and allowing the brain chemicals to calm down. And as you're calming down, then they try and get you back in in the control by placing those things in front of you to lead you. Right? They don't usually come along and put a cattle prod in your back and push you because that exacerbates the the disruption within your mental state. It's a very delicate balance for them to to do their hypnosis and keep the illusion.
Speaker 2:This is basically saying that there's gonna be some event, whether they create it or not, that's gonna escalate so far that we won't be going back. Okay? So this is why I I have been saying that we're approaching the point of hyper novelty, because we'll cross over a threshold where it will not be possible for us to go back to these levels or that old illusion anymore. So, there is reason to suspect that World War three, however it is characterized, nation state versus nation state or deep state versus global population other than Russia and a few other places that are awake and not in their control. However we characterize that, we're going to get to a point where there's going to be an opening of this idea that the deep state exists independent of the nation states and is at war with the people.
Speaker 2:I think it will will come out because the deep state will try and gen up a nation state war. It's not gonna work. But in the process of doing that, they're gonna waken up a lot more of the normal population by by basically having such a huge shock to their system that all their mind is cleansed. Right? So most people I don't know how many people could actually remember, but, you know, you wake up one morning, and then I was on the West Coast here, and you hear about the attacks on, nine eleven.
Speaker 2:Right? From that moment on, my thinking was altered. It never went back. And then you see all of the problems that generate the fact that they had this, you know, massive, thousands of pages of law ready to enact within a week, so you know it's all a a put up job, yada yada yada. Right?
Speaker 2:And so your thinking never goes back to the way it was. And we're approaching something like that. Will it be a directed energy weapon attack on, Colorado or Florida or Wyoming? Perhaps. Something too visible to ignore.
Speaker 2:People in Turkey, right after Maui, were struck by energy weapons. They filmed the energy weapons coming down and starting the brushfires in their area. So this is part of the deep state, war against the population of Earth. Now I'm I'm a little on the woo side, so I think there's something on the other side of the deep state. I don't think the deep state is their own masters.
Speaker 2:Right? I think there's a lot of the people in the deep state that know what I know about this and don't wanna go anywhere near this, but are not able to change events such that they could back off of this, because there's something on the other side that's driving them. So there are certain things that are popping out in reality that suggest that there are support, in our factual reality for some kind of an event coming along this way. So it it's subtle. You'd have to really understand the data and the way I'm looking at it, but some of these supporting more subtle effects are hugely long term in terms of their in in the way in which they will manifest and the effects they will have.
Seth Holehouse:Got a quick message for you. So, folks, thank goodness inflation is going down. Thank you, Biden. But wait, if inflation is going down, then why are food prices going up, energy prices going up and gas prices going up? Well, because they're lying to us.
Seth Holehouse:Imagine that. You see right now, the real rate of inflation is closer to 25%, not the 5% the White House wants you to believe. You can see this with your own eyes and your own wallet. What this means is that if you had a hundred thousand dollars in your savings account just one year ago, today, it's only worth about $75,000 in terms of your actual buying power. Your money is losing value by the day.
Seth Holehouse:If you went back to 1920, and you had a $20 bill or a one ounce gold coin, you could walk into a men's clothing store and buy an entire suit, jacket, shoes, pants, belt, everything. But think about it, what would a $20 bill buy you today? Maybe some socks, but an ounce of gold will still buy you that same suit. And this is why I believe that now more than ever, it's a good time to consider transferring at least a portion of your wealth into physical gold and silver. Real world assets have stood the test of time.
Seth Holehouse:And for this, I'm confident in recommending Doctor. Kirk Elliott. So Kirk has two PhDs and is an incredible Christian patriot who's dedicated to helping you break free from the trap of inflation. You can buy gold and silver directly even in small amounts or you can transfer your IRA into physical gold and silver with zero taxes or penalties. So Kirk is who I use, he's who my family and my friends use and honestly, he's someone I trust completely.
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Speaker 2:So right now, they're trying to work out, the deep state and the individuals involved are trying to work out a face saving mechanism for shutting down CERN, the or for shutting down the, Large Hadron Collider. Okay? That massive, massive, massive investment, more copper in that thing than in any dam on the planet. Okay? There's more copper there than any of the dams in our country, probably more than all of the dams in our country in terms of the generators and stuff.
Speaker 2:And they're shutting it down because it's useless. It took, particle physics as far as it could go, and it, failed. And it's, people are are drifting away. Okay? So a bad sign for science when your scientists are not re upping on their own, and you gotta go on out and try and keep recruiting them to come back into your operation.
Speaker 2:Whatever they were attempting to, achieve, they failed with that. The fact that we're looking at such a large thing being shut down and the first hints of the emotional problems that these guys are getting into in that shutdown process, because they can't just, you know, everybody walk away and lock the door. Right? There's they've gotta decommission this thing. It's gotta be a public kind of a deal.
Speaker 2:It's gotta upend their their whole grasp on physics and science because they took science to this huge pinnacle and and spent more on a single science project than anything ever in our history and have failed. And it was a failure from the beginning. If if you looked at things the appropriate way, you would see this. And in spite of them having hidden motivations, even all their hidden motivations failed, and that's caused them some real consternation. So we could be facile and see things at a surface level and say, oh, you know, the deep state's attempt to create a portal for demons with the Large Hadron Collider for demons to come in and help them failed.
Speaker 2:Okay? And so there probably will be people that have that view. Right? Like, I don't know, particular kind of mentition in people that would think that this was the case. But it's true that it failed.
Speaker 2:I don't know that they were attempting to bring in demons. I know that there were all these other ancillary projects for the Large Hadron Collider that were never mentioned except in the back quarters kind of thing. But I know that that failure, as upsetting as it is to the mainstream scientists that are on the front side of it, is much more upsetting to the whackadoodle deep state scientists on the backside of things, and it's caused a huge problem with their grasp of reality, really, because it it it was things they were attempting to do, whatever they were, it basically that failure came back and said, nope. You people are totally wrong in your view of how reality works. And that has really shocked them.
Speaker 2:So we're gonna see all different kinds of things here. We've got major monetary collapses going on in the background that are significantly huge. So this time next year, will we be able to have an election in The United States? I do not believe we would be able to have any kind of an election that the Biden regime would be planning on. That is to say Dominion machines, you know, any of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2:I don't think any of that's gonna happen because, they won't be able to pay for it. I think Dominion itself will be bankrupt and no one working for them this time next year. Okay? So by the time we get into September next year, a lot of these very large firms will be 100% defunct because they rely basically on skimmed illegal money. So the Federal Reserve says they create, you know, a billion dollars.
Speaker 2:Well, they actually they farm out, 1,000,000,000 without telling us to all their buddies. But the fact that they've been doing that for so long and all of a sudden it comes to a stop, all of these these firms that are counting on that money being farmed out to them, and as well as the fact that the money doesn't purchase what it should anyway, are are in a world of hurt. And it's the bribery level that's gonna be bringing down a lot of these very shaky institutions that basically rely on that hidden money to to hoax up the books and get through year to year to year, and we're seeing it now. So a year from now, I don't think we'll have an ordinary election. I could see us having an election that was being supervised by some other authority, like the US military.
Speaker 2:Right? I could see us having an election that was being supervised in a way that didn't rely on, commercial products like Dominion and all of that sort of thing. Some and I'm saying that because the the monetary system is gonna be having such huge amounts of trouble between now and then. And we have this coming up, whatever this release language event is. Right?
Speaker 2:So if we postulated it was, you know, a direct energy weapon attack on, the Denver Airport. Right? There's reasons to do that, to get at the stuff that's underneath the the, airport. Maybe that would be the deep state doing it, one part of the deep state against another part. Maybe it would be anti deep state people doing it.
Speaker 2:Who the hell knows? Right? Because we're we're not being clued in as to who the participants are in this war. But it will be something on that order where people will be able to tune in on the Internet, probably even on regular TV, and see particle beam weapons coming down beating the absolute crap out of the Denver Airport until it's just a smoking hole in the ground. It'll be that that's what it's gonna take to get these kind of numbers.
Speaker 2:And at that level, what's our response as a nation and so on and so on? Now I've got data sets that say that this, coincidental okay. So coincidental to this. Alright? Not as a direct outgrowth and not as a supporting feature, but coincidental to this, sometime in the future here, like maybe two months or so, there's gonna be a reaction within the, generations that are in school now.
Speaker 2:And I got that data sets before I did any of my numeric analyses. But the data sets were were basically saying that the sort of like the middle school into high school level kids are gonna get savvy to the war, and a lot of them are gonna get an attitude. Okay? And this attitude is gonna be hardened by the fact that there are a lot of them with the same attitude. They're gonna start talking to their parents about the war.
Speaker 2:Their parents are gonna start getting freaked out and starting to react, because, you know, maybe the kid's right. And also, the kid's attitude is gonna come back to bite the Biden regime in the sense that we're gonna have according to my datasets, we're gonna have full on, absolute counterinsurrection in large school systems being run by the kids themselves. Okay? So the kids are gonna be tired of all this, queer the generation crap, and there will be a hard line there. Those people that have adopted the queer the generation crap from the deep state, those kids are gonna be a lot of them are gonna be pulled back by the sheer size of the the anti deep state group, and the and these kids are gonna be savvy to who they're fighting.
Speaker 2:So you'll start hearing the kids talk about the Kilometers, the Khazarian mafia. And they'll be able to differentiate the Khazarian mafia. They'll be able to tell you the history. They'll be able to you to the Veterans Today articles, that will detail anything you want to know about them, yada yada yada. Right?
Speaker 2:And so this is gonna start a, ground up kind of a thing that's gonna cause problems both with the parents as they try and react, but also more so with the school administrators. Because in the data sets, it's saying a lot of these kids are just gonna say, go into the classroom, and then every every time the teacher says anything, they're gonna catcall, they're gonna disrespect, they're gonna throw out the truth, they're gonna get up and cause problems, Just basically, not able to take the bullshit anymore. And, so you'll see teachers running out of the classroom in tears, teachers totally freaking out because their socialism, nonsense doesn't fly. They don't know why. And this will be, that that will be a large part of it.
Speaker 2:The dataset said that the, bewilderment, the puzzlement on the part of the teachers and the administrators last for some months. A lot of them crashing and burning in that process in the sense that the data shows teachers resigning, administrators quitting, and that sort of basically have a rebellion in very large school districts to where the data would have it be that these school districts were more or less, being operated by and under the control of the students themselves, not so much their parents even. It's just just really strange guy. But that part right there, takes us into 2024. So that's my kind of lead in to twenty twenty twenty four in terms of the, level of disruption we're gonna be having here.
Speaker 2:Now whatever it is that we get into here, I think that happens before the end of the year, before the end of this year. It may happen further into the the New Year, but it just seems that the building tension levels are dropping too rapidly around in November to be able to sustain anything into the New Year. So it looks like they get swamped at some point near the November. As I say, it could maybe take into January. It's just it it's difficult to estimate.
Speaker 2:But that alone is gonna be reshaping of the social order at a level that the the political powers had not anticipated at all. That's gonna strike them right out of the blue. It's like, what? What? You know?
Speaker 2:What's going on over there? It's gonna be really interesting. I think it's gonna be really cool.
Seth Holehouse:Gosh. So so bay this is so interesting because there's so many layers to this. But while a lot of people are looking to what's happening with, you know, DC or politics or either getting caught up in that level of the battle. And they've now come to this conclusion that, okay, the maybe they're saying, okay, the left is you know, has been infiltrated and taken over by the communists, and they're trying to destroy America, which is different than just kind of left versus right. And, you know, I disagree with your policies.
Seth Holehouse:But it's the the next so there's been this mass awakening towards that level. Okay? The media is fake news. Big pharma is out, you know, to harm us. There's been that level of awakening.
Seth Holehouse:But what you're seeing is that the next level in the most significant awakening for the masses is to realize that there is a small group of evil psychopaths that are trying to control and kill the entire world. You know, things that you and I believe that we've kind of understood and awaken to that when that realization hits the masses, that becomes the trigger point, that becomes the tipping point in which all of their systems start to fundamentally collapse. Because once you see things from that perspective, you see through the schools, you see through the media, through Hollywood in a way that you didn't before, and you will no longer go along with it because you know what's ultimately there. So that's what you're seeing as a gigantic it's almost as if like, 2024 from here, what you're saying is that 2024 is when the great awakening hits the mainstream and the entire structure that the deep state has of this world is shaken to the core.
Speaker 2:I'd say 2024 over the process of 2024, the great awakening eats the deep state. It eats fake news, and we digest it the rest of that year and into 2025, and then we shit it out. Okay? It's it's that level of stuff that's going on. So so it's but the breakdown is concurrent with that.
Speaker 2:A lot of the breakdown stuff is is leading people to a level of awareness. Right? So it's the breakdown of things that allow them to see the Kasserian mafia hand behind it. The Soros picked DA's, you know, the defund, the police movement, which was paid for by George Soros, all of these kind of things. So the larger battle of the deep state versus the populace will indeed emerge.
Speaker 2:It'll emerge from an event here, like I say, that's gonna be eyes wide open kind of a thing, but it won't stop there. Okay. So there's gonna be this there's as we get into this larger awakening and people start seeing the Khazarian mafia and understanding how they work, then they're also gonna have to face the idea of space aliens. Okay? They're gonna have to come to grips with that because it will be opened up by whatever this event is.
Speaker 2:Because you have to understand that everything that drives the Khazarian mafia is space alien oriented. The Khazarian mafia, Klaus Schwab, George Soros, all of these people in this inner group are not or they're they're descriptively, they are Jewish. Okay? They're not Jewish in that religious sense the way that your neighbor who happens to be Jewish and goes to synagogue is is religious. Their religion goes to the core of the Hebrew words that are in the Torah.
Speaker 2:And those Hebrew words have no word for God in them. The Torah has no word for Jew in there at all. It is a discussion, a description by the people who endured it, the people in Judea. It is a description of how to live with the el, the Elohim, the space aliens that came down and conquered them. These are the same elohim that conquered the Khazarians and then were driven out or left for whatever reason.
Speaker 2:We don't know. I'm speculating that there was a war between the elohim and some other space aliens in India and that the Elohim lost, and they were driven out of their Khazarian, stronghold, which is in the Northwest Of India, and they went to Judea. Okay? But the Khazarians felt this huge thing of abandonment, And a lot of the literature within the Talmud, within the Zohar, which are the is this mystical aspect of Judaism. If you get into that, it's all about the abandonment of being, the Khazarians and being abandoned by the el who who left.
Speaker 2:And as I say, I think there was a war going on. The el got defeated. They had to hightail it. They they hid down in Judea. And they were they were modifying us genetically.
Speaker 2:So Claus Schwab and his buddies at that level within the WEF that are truly the, Khazarian mafia, they think they have an extra bit of DNA. They think they are genetically modified. Okay? And that that success in their genetic modification, it it shocks them because they they think it was successful, but then shortly thereafter, the el left, and they started their genetic modification with the Essenes in Southern Yemen, which they took to Judea, and those are the people of the Bible. That's Moses, you know, Adam and Eve, all of these kind of people.
Speaker 2:It took the el one hundred and ninety one years to successfully create Adam, to successfully genetically engineer Adam. It took them another, I think, eleven years to create Eve, and they had seven eves that they discarded because they weren't acceptable to Adam. Okay. So these are the nature of the people that you're dealing with. The l okay.
Speaker 2:So the the Khazarian mafia, we're all genetically modified. All humans are. Humans have 23 chromosomal pairs. And you can check me on all this science and, you know, go involve the real guys like scientists, and they'll say, yeah. He's correct about that, but he's full of shit about all this alien stuff.
Speaker 2:Right? But our our chromosome pairs come down and, set off into the chromosome, and we have 23 of these. What actually happened was in number two, it was expunged. It was cut out. Now let me state something here factually.
Speaker 2:No human biological engineer has ever inserted successfully a chromosome in any being. No human biological engineer has ever successfully inserted an effective gene in any being. We can our CRISPR, our genetic modification is called CRISPR because it burns out genes. That's why it's CRISPR. It has a it has a telltale residue that it leaves that anybody that examines that genome can see that this was a CRISPR critter.
Speaker 2:Right? That this beam that you're looking at, that DNA, had been through this genetic modification process where part of the genome was burned out. All humans on Earth that we've been able to assay, have some level of this in their system. Usually, it's number two has been burned out, and number three then becomes number two. And that's why we have 23 pairs instead of 24 pairs or 26 or 28 like all the other primates.
Speaker 2:Okay? And and here's the thing about the The Khazarians were done before the el got to their success with Adam and Eve. That really pisses off the Khazarian mafia that the Essenes were successful, and the el really liked them. Okay. Another thing about that was that the Khazarians, the burn was only partially out.
Speaker 2:So the Khazarians have this little dongle, this little remnant of the old number two chromosome in their DNA. And you can actually determine who is Khazarian by examining the DNA and looking for this little stub. Okay. They they think within their own internal, understanding that this was an insertion. Okay?
Speaker 2:And I dispute that. I think that it was just a bad burn job. So they think they have some extra DNA. Now there's also another aspect of this. The source people for the Khazarians were Homo capensis, the coneheads, the Rothschilds.
Speaker 2:All of these great banking families are coneheads. They have that capensis, and Homo capensis is another species. Homo capensis was, concurrent with ancient humanity. And so when the l came down, they chose to work for the Khazarians on a Homo capensis, variant that was Mongolian in nature, as are the Khazarians. So the Khazarians have a Mongolian DNA set.
Speaker 2:There you go. Central Asia. Okay? And so they they modified that. And so you will see all of the Khazarians through history.
Speaker 2:First off, they're removing all of the the paintings or the portraits of the Khazarians from the August all the way through to modern time from all the museums they can find them because it points out that they're cone heads. Right? They have the very tall, bald heads even in the women, and they used to disguise it with these wrapped, gossamer kind of fabrics and stuff, and those were painted in. And so these these paintings are being removed everywhere from museums because they know that people are starting to wise up. And this is something that they don't want to have happen is to for people to think, uh-oh.
Speaker 2:We've got Ashkenazi Jews over here, but we've got cone heads over there that are the Khazarians, and they're not even human. They're not as human as we are. They're not the same kind of human. Right? And so the the Khazarians don't want that to happen, but it's happening in any event.
Speaker 2:So I'm giving you details you probably don't really care about here. But nonetheless, the genetic modification of this, it goes to and all of the, space alien connections to the Khazarians are gonna come out as part of this war. And that elevates us up in terms of the awakening relative to, humanity in a general sense so that we won't as you say, our vision is going to enlarge. But our vision is going to enlarge, and it's not gonna focus back on Earth 100%. So now we're gonna get into this period of time where we're gonna start focusing on the people that are living in the moon.
Speaker 2:The moon is inhabited. It's inhabited now. It's been inhabited as long as there's been humans on this planet. It may not be the people that are living there now, the beings that are living there now may not be the people that built it, though. That's we don't know.
Speaker 2:There's so much in the way of speculation about stuff. We don't know about that, but we do know it's inhabited. We do know that they're very energetic at this point. They've been extremely energetic about, I wanna say, last six, seven months, and that there's just a really weird curiosity here. So do you remember the movie, 2,001, A Space Odyssey?
Speaker 2:Right? And it starts off, they go to the moon, and they dig and they dig and they dig, and then they get that big black object, the obelisk there. And then one morning, because it's it's uncovered, the sun comes up, and the sunlight strikes it, and it sends off this message. Right? Okay.
Speaker 2:So in that movie, they decided to go to the, dig up that object, not just because they were out digging holes, but because that area of the moon in the in the storyline had heated up unexpectedly. It was just showing a sign of, you know, warmth that nobody could figure out why it was there. And so, you know, government decided, well, let's go look at it. Well, curiously, we've got a spot on the moon that's just on the edge of the far side that we can't see that's heating up. And it's been doing so for, like, the last three or four weeks.
Speaker 2:So so there's some activity that we can measure down here that's going on under the surface of the moon that's that's presenting us with different temperature, gradients than we would usually see by some serious factor. So, you know, maybe they're who knows what they're doing there that would cause such a thing? But the fact that our governments are aware of it means that, they're gonna be reacting to it at some point. And it is also curious that during this time, we see the Indians landing on the South Pole and this kind of thing. Right?
Speaker 2:So I think we're gonna get into, I don't know how much of the population will have it in their heads, but certainly by 2025, it'll be relatively common to to come across conversations about people talking about what's going on with the beings on the moon, and maybe we'll actually have some kind of interaction with them at that point or or be planning it.
Seth Holehouse:Alright, folks. I've got a quick message for you. I have one simple question. If today you could no longer go purchase more food for your family with the food stores that you have in your home, how long would you be able to feed your family? Would it be a week, three weeks, a month, two months, a year?
Seth Holehouse:This is a really important question folks that we have to be very realistic about because the elites are proactively trying to put us into a state of food crisis and a state of famine. I'm sure you've seen all of the different food processing plants and farms that are blowing up. You've got cattle dying by the tens of thousands. They're proactively trying to collapse our food system because they know if they can control our food, they can control us. And so one of the best ways to be outside of their control is to be able to have our own stores of food and to be able to produce our own food.
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Seth Holehouse:Everything about the, you know, the way of life that we remember will be different. So
Speaker 2:So okay. So let's let's go back to Plato for a second. Okay? A lot of our references, such as Plato's cave and the, Dionysus discourses and stuff, those are those originate out of the Kali Yuga. Okay.
Speaker 2:So this is a true fundamental thing that affects humans. Humans are not the same always over time, humans on Earth. This this happens because the Earth wobbles up and down relative to the broad mass of the galactic center. And, so if we were to look into galactic center, we would see a bubble with all this emanations coming on out, and then we would see this big obscuring mass of all the stars and the planets and all the rest of the galaxy there. And we're out here going like this with our solar system around the edge of the galaxy.
Speaker 2:When we get up into here, outside this obscuring mass, in these areas here, we get more galactic center emanations, various different kinds of radiation. We've had two different kinds of radiation that we've discovered impacting Earth since about 1996 or so. In any event, though so humans actually change over time. Now when we are obscured, that's the Kali Yuga. We're not getting very much of these galactic center emanations coming through the mass.
Speaker 2:They're being absorbed by all the stars and all of that, and so we're kinda dim. Okay. So Plato's cave and all of the great thinkers of the past are really standout people because they stood out from the mass of otherwise dim individuals, which will always happen. You'll always have that big spread of humanity. But that big spread will have more geniuses as we go forward because we're gonna get more emanations out of galactic center.
Speaker 2:So next generation will be born, in general, smarter than this generation, etcetera, etcetera, for some ten thousand plus years. In the Kali Yuga, our understanding is so limited that we now, outside of the Kali Yuga by three hundred and twenty five years, getting into our three hundred and twenty sixth year outside of it, need to stop referencing that as though it is the end all and be all of human thinking. Okay? Plato could not have conceived ideas that we hold in our head now relative to the natural world, let alone technology and any of that kind of stuff. Right?
Speaker 2:Because his mind could not have coped with it. The in the Kali Yuga, the height of technology is a donkey for transportation or a sailboat. Okay? So that gives you some concept of where we had been. So I don't accept the idea that we should take the great thinkers of the past as being necessarily a guide for ourselves.
Speaker 2:And then here's something else. As we came out of the Kali Yuga, as we were even in it from maybe the November. Okay? So it ended in 1698. But maybe from the November onward, with the rise of the Khazarian mafia, they took over what we would laughingly call science.
Speaker 2:And in taking over science, they they pegged it to this weird idea that is the core of our physics now, and, we had to abandon that core in order to work with electricity through Maxwell, through, Heaviside, through Tesla. All of these people abandoned the core. They didn't even think about this the way that the Khazarians do. Okay? But the Khazarians and all of our science has this idea that if you take enough sand, enough grit, and you mash it together in the appropriate way, it will achieve consciousness somehow.
Speaker 2:Okay? So, basically, their whole science, our physics, astrophysics, our deep physics, the Large Hadron Collider, all of these things are based on the idea that consciousness arises from grit and that the grit exists. So in other words, if all life were to disappear, the Khazarians have this view that reality would still exist with planets and stars and all of that kind of thing. Right? And there'd still be dirt.
Speaker 2:And, you know, even if all there's no bacteria, no no plant life, no human life, no other no life at all, there's a saying that dirt would still be here, that grit would still exist in the form of planets and so on, and that is not true. Okay? That whole premise is a false, premise that has diverted all of our science into a way that's impractical, and we have to bust out of it in order to achieve the engineering success that we have with Tesla, Maxwell, etcetera. Right? Okay.
Speaker 2:So that's a fake understanding of reality, and it leads to a dead end. It leads to the Einstein quantum mechanics that has held us in stasis for over a hundred years. We've had no significant inventions since Tesla. We've had incremental increases in efficiency in our inventions, but no significant inventions since Tesla. And it's because we're operating on this quantum mechanics idea that nobody can reconcile because it's impossible to reconcile the idea that you can get enough sand together to eventually have it become consciousness, and that's at the core of their thinking.
Speaker 2:So here's the deal. There's a few radical scientists out there in the world people that understand that consciousness existed, and consciousness created the grit. It created what we call here reality or materia. Okay? It created matter and stuck parts of itself in the matter.
Speaker 2:You, myself, your dog, the bacteria, we're all living consciousness that's been stuck in the matter. Now I have a theory as to why it did that. And a lot of people think I'm crazy about this, but I think it did that to try and discover novelty because it's sitting out there bored. Consciousness is everything, knows everything. It's all for all time and is bored.
Speaker 2:And then it has this idea that itself was new. And the idea was, could it create novelty? And from the point that consciousness got the idea that it could create something it did not know about, It had to have an experiment. We are that experiment. So my viewpoint is that all of reality is ontologically created.
Speaker 2:Right? The consciousness pushed aside a space within itself and created this material that we're in, manufactured this illusion of matter, and stuck our consciousness interacting with this illusion in order that stuff may happen and hopefully stuff that it could not conceive of happening so that it would have the shock of the new, that that rush of, oh my god. Look at that. Right? It would have release language.
Speaker 2:And so so that's my my, understanding of why it did that. I have a lot of reasons to suspect and to be able to prove that it did indeed do that, that that we are in fact ontologically downward, not grit upward. And that makes a huge difference in our science. And so we're gonna abandon a lot of the science, especially from Einstein onward, as being really bogus. And I think we'll also abandon a lot of the Kali Yuga thinking as being just that.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's so Kali Yuga, you know? You were so dense back then, that was the best you could do.
Seth Holehouse:Interesting. So it's which really kinda goes in line with this mass awakening. So looking at kinda jumping in that I got so many questions here still, but I guess okay. One thing, you know, this is kinda we're looking at more of the kinda more immediate. In 2024, okay, you've talked about how, you know, the the the basically, the current regime will have run out of power, run out of money, run out of their ability to keep the keep the people, within this delusion that allows them to stay in power.
Seth Holehouse:So how do you think Trump fits into this? Because obviously, they're trying everything possible to take him out, you know, and we don't even know how many assassination attempts there have been. I'm sure there have been plenty. But how do you think do you think that something happens where he steps back in? Is he elected back in?
Seth Holehouse:Does he just kind of disappear from the political scene? I mean, what are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2:No. No. Okay. So if human politics are really weird, and you can have all the data focusing on one thing and a different outcome arises. Usually, it's not the opposite.
Speaker 2:It would be something at 90 degrees instead of 180 degrees. Right? So I think there's gonna be a 90 degree emergence of some form. Alright? So how do I want to phrase?
Speaker 2:I think that we have Trump in our future. And I think that we have a very I gotta be careful about choice of word. Okay. So there will be disharmony, but it won't be disharmonous. Okay?
Speaker 2:We will have upset, and we will have vast quantities of change. But in the main, I think it's gonna be a a change towards a legitimate kind of a progress. So I do see Trump coming back, but I don't see us having a, the election under the current, regime kind of understanding of those sorts of things. So maybe the military would come in, and we'd have an election all in a day, and Trump would be reelected. And then we would set off on this.
Speaker 2:That does not change things. Right? So even with Trump running things and even with all of us pulling together, starting to become more cohesive, starting to address our own problems, and starting to reengineer our social order from the bottom up, which I do see in the data, okay, and that's another area of discussion. But the even with all of that, it does not change the fact that we will be at war. We will be in a war that with the deep state that will go on for an for some period of time, even if we really can't figure out who's the enemy at the moment kind of a thing.
Speaker 2:Right? And also, at so I think 2024 marks that point where we step over the threshold. And whether we're dealing with the space aliens that year or not, we are preparing for that such that our social order is not allowed to ever go back. We won't be going back to the idea of isolated Earth, of of humanity alone. And that has hugely profound implications for all different kinds of things within our social order.
Speaker 2:So it will become necessary that anybody that is a Christian examine Christianity and their relationship with it as it comes out that Christianity, based on the Old Testament, is is based on dealings with the Elohim who are these space alien oppressors that came down and genetically modified us and have abused us and are adrenochrome addicts, and they killed so many. So the Elohim, people, those those aliens, were also the ones in Mesoamerica. There's reasons to suspect that that group split themselves, and part of them came over to Mesoamerica for a while and messed about with the Aztecs and the Mayans. In some of the discussions there, as well as allusions to it in weird places in ancillary books in the Talmud, for instance, you you come to an understanding that they were so addicted to adrenochrome that they, at one point, had a staggering, staggering ten thousand individuals killed in a single twenty four hour period in order to free the adrenal glands and burn them such that these guys could huff them. Now I have reason to think that maybe they're huffing the adrenachrome because of a lack of the galactic emanations.
Speaker 2:Right? I think that the l originated much closer to galactic center than we did and that they deliberately come out here as a predatory species because they know we're in our Kali Yuga, and they can take advantage of us. I don't think they're great thinkers. I think they're truly horrific beings. If you read the Old Testament word for word as it is actually written, you see these horrible crimes, like the the archangel Michael being interrupted in some activity and taking his finger and pushing it right through the head of the person that interrupted him and killing him dead.
Speaker 2:And, then, because he was annoyed, going and killing all of the family. So these are the beings that we're dealing with. So the people that have these beings as their gods are gonna have to interact with that relationship with themselves and with their religion and with their gods, and they won't have any choice in the matter because all this will be coming out, especially as regard to space aliens. So, you know, what does the appearance of our our, officialdom and our general social order discussing beings on the moon due to your religion. Right?
Speaker 2:If you're Christian, if you're Jew, and everybody around you is talking about factually looking up and seeing the beings on the moon and people putting out channels on YouTube showing what happened last night, like the, you know, the 05:00 news on what the moon is going what they're doing up there, that's gonna fundamentally alter your relationship with your religion no matter how secure it is. And then you go in and you start looking at all the religions on the planet with very, very, very few exceptions are based on these space aliens. You know, Hinduism, To some extent, Buddhism is because it has so much Hinduism in it. Although, I don't think Buddha personally was influenced by the space aliens and is too further on. But Mohammedism.
Speaker 2:Okay? Mohammed received the Quran from a space alien in a cave. That space alien was the archangel Michael. He was one of the last l on this planet, and he left with that last group. So Mohammedism is based on that interaction with the with the archangel Michael, which we now know was one of the Elohim and was a space alien.
Speaker 2:And so, so we're gonna have a real comeuppance relative to our past. Now especially understanding that all these religions originate in the Kali Yuga. So, you know, when we're not really that swift, and they can they can come down and take advantage of us. So we've got a few hundred years of real work here going through all of this. Right?
Seth Holehouse:So I wanna talk a little bit about banking. Know, this is one of one of the big topics I had that I wanted to cover with you because, you know, you had talked, in in a lot of ways, predicted what happened earlier this year with the bank collapses that we saw happen. If you look at the the amount of money that's been pulled out of the banking system in the past, I think, you know, year or two, it eclipses what happened in 02/2008. I mean, it's it's a it's a massive amount of money that's leaving the banking system. Now, of course, you know, the the official narrative is that everything's fine, and, you know, the the recession is the recession worries have passed and everything.
Seth Holehouse:But all the information I'm seeing can points know, kind of points to a very different scenario that we're really on the edge of a of a pretty bad period. So what do you kind of foresee? Or what do you think how do you look at the current situation with the banking system? And how do you see it unfolding over the next six months or so?
Speaker 2:Over the next six months, we'll take a very large hit. Maybe it'll be a third of the major banks will fail. Okay? There's some you're alluding to money being taken out of the banking system, and that has this interesting ancillary effect because we have fractional reserve. So, every time somebody comes in and takes money out and and we'll just call it the Roth, Rockefellows or the Rothschild Bank or the Federal Reserve.
Speaker 2:It doesn't matter, any of the central banks. But you put money in, you put a hundred dollars in, they get to keep loaning out because they count that as a fraction, and they have all these multipliers, you know, times 10, times 20, etcetera. And you get out to or the point where you're dealing with derivatives, flat out, you might be dealing with a magnification of a hundred times that right there. So anytime you come in and you withdraw that, you're collapsing all of those ripples that are based on that amount. Now if I take my hundred dollars out of the bank, it actually doesn't mean that they have to pony up this money, but it does mean they don't have that support for that continuing fractional reserve system.
Speaker 2:And so much money has come out that it's actually affected the functioning of a lot of these central banks. And so we're hearing rumors about the cracks in the Rothschild empire. Now there's another aspect of this. When the central bank creates money, bear in mind, no okay. So we have a central bank.
Speaker 2:All these central banks, are Rockefeller, Rothschild banks. They've been imposed on us by law. We must deal with them, And they have never ever been audited, and they're not subject to any audit. So when they say that they're that they've got a hundred dollars in here, maybe they don't have that. Maybe they've lied.
Speaker 2:Maybe there's only $1 in there. But regardless, whatever they think they have in there, they are always lying on every one of these layers putting out. And so they will put out, you know, 20 times your $100, and then they'll do another 20 times your $100 that they're just passing out to their friends because it all spends the same. You don't know that those are bogus dollars. And so our system is so hugely corrupted, so hugely polluted, because they've been doing this for over a hundred years, that it is not auditable any longer.
Speaker 2:We would not have enough time to be able to go back through and and see who did what with money at what point. And so what I suspect will happen is that the events that we're undergoing now, independent of that and not part of that that driving release language, this would only maybe double our usual, deviation. But we'll see major collapses at, like, tier one banks. And we're seeing that now, rumors of that with, the Rothschild empire. And we're seeing this now, rumors of disquiet in Vanguard and BlackRock because they live on this float.
Speaker 2:Right? And they're not able to do what they want anymore because so much money is coming out of the system and going elsewhere, gold, silver, Bitcoin, whatever. As long as it's not in dollar form or as long as it's not in fiat currency, it's out of their system. So I suspect that the bank collapse that we're gonna have over these, like, next I wanna say before the January. Okay?
Speaker 2:So it'll appear sometime before then we should have have it bubbling up in the background. That's gonna be the start of a chain of events that will continue through 2024 that will be going ongoing as we are continuing on such that every month for 2024, it'll become noticeable that your money is worth less than the month before and that that previous and that the month you're just going through, so in January and then February, you'll see that there's more bank failures in February than there were in January. There's more disruption. You'll become more aware of it, and it'll just keep going on and on and on such that it is a continuing annoyance in your life as you go forward. Now I do not expect the banking system to recover.
Speaker 2:There are those people that suggest that the Federal Reserve will, save itself and allow the other fiat currencies to, die off now that we have, gold and oil and energy backed rubles and so on and so on. I don't think that that's going to occur. Alright? So I do not think that the Federal Reserve will be able to save itself. So I think that we're gonna have to go through a very difficult process here, which would be reintroducing legal tender, legal money within The United States that probably will, because it'll be backed by something solid, probably will not be allowed to be used outside the country.
Speaker 2:That was the way the ruble was managed against us way back when during the Soviet period of time. Right? They had a very effective, strong money inside. They couldn't buy anything. They had no goods, but that was a secondary issue.
Speaker 2:Their money was solid because it was not allowed to be diluted and didn't go outside the country. So we'll have to put some kind of rules and that that sort of thing on there. But think of what this is going to do. As that occurs, just these initial banking collapses, we're gonna see a lot more information come out because people won't be being bribed anymore. And so they're gonna say, okay, you're not paying me anymore, so I'm gonna dump out all of these photos I've got, you know, of you strangling that guy or whatever the hell.
Speaker 2:Right? So there'll be a lot of that as the banking system unravels, and that'll contribute to more banking system unraveling because a lot of that is blackmail that's been used to hold and stitch the system together. So we're truly at the end days of that system. I think it's great. I think it's a nasty, period to live in, but, you know, in terms of we're gonna suffer, but the end result is good.
Speaker 2:The the direction is good, and I don't see anything other than good coming from the fact that we will suffer here. And, you know, in that sense, we will have purification, and we will we will have suffered for our sins in undoing all of this kind of stuff. Right? Our inattention and allowing all this stuff to occur, etcetera, etcetera. So we'll we'll have to undo all of that as we focus our attention back into our own money system and understand where it goes.
Speaker 2:And we're gonna have to educate people. Our school system's gonna be upended because of this, because look at how much of it is dependent on on subsidies through the federal government. That's how they control the school system. That's gonna break down when they can't get out the subsidies anymore. You'll see a lot of the school systems where the administrators will, will, as I was saying, will will resign because the kids are in rebellion because they don't wanna be taught this horseshit that doesn't, do them any good the rest of their lives.
Speaker 2:And, basically, it's the great awakening where you're just not putting up with the bullshit anymore. And as the cazarian mafia and the central bank and all the bankers, that's all they have, is purveyors of bullshit, we're about to leave them in the dust of history. It won't be a fun time, though.
Seth Holehouse:What do you think happens to gold and silver amidst that, amidst this banking collapse and this kind of end of these fiat currencies?
Speaker 2:They go to unobtainium. Okay? So we'll see a brief period of time where there will be nominal dollar amounts. You'll see silver rising to the point where it eventually becomes worth the same amount or more than gold. But it'll be meaningless, Okay?
Speaker 2:Because you won't be able to A, you wouldn't want to sell your silver or gold for fiat dollar bills, and there wouldn't be anybody around to sell to that had those kind of dollars, right? We're going to go through that sudden crash of a monetary system that the same kind of thing that existed in here in the 1930s that led places like Tenino, this little town over in Thurston County, to come up with wooden nickels, wooden currency, because there was no circulating currency. So that's what we're going to run into. Once people stop taking, your card, then you gotta go to the bank, and then you even then you get paper money, and then you go back to the store, and they say, no. I don't want that.
Speaker 2:You know? We can't do anything with that. And that's what we're headed to. And there will be a so I actually expect alright. So under those circumstances, if we were to arrive at that point where, the people are rejecting the fiat currency, within the commercial system in The United States, that, I think, could be the prompt for a resurgence of the military and the reemergence of Trump.
Speaker 2:Okay. So bear in mind something that is factual. Trump was asked to run. Okay. We rarely hear people talk about that.
Speaker 2:Trump was a Democrat way back in the day. Right? He's not a commie, so the Democrats left him. They became leftists and commies, and they would have he would never have associated with them in any event. But Trump was asked to run.
Speaker 2:And so there there is a that begs the question, who asked Trump to run? Okay? And so in my opinion, a group of individuals that I've stylized since 02/2001 as a self organizing collective asked Trump to run. And I think that that self organizing collective is in the main military and has a certain attitude about things. I also it's my opinion and I could be quite wrong about this, of course, about any of it.
Speaker 2:It's, you know, wildly speculative. I'm no one confirms it. You know, military doesn't talk to me. FBI follows me, and the and the official shadows me and gives me a lot of heat, but they don't come and chat. Right?
Speaker 2:So I'm I'm basing this on observation and and some level of acumen. But, I'm of the opinion that those individuals say they were, you know, a bunch of generals, right, whoever it was, that asked Trump to run, I think they were motivated by something that we have yet to, see emerging into our reality here that will ultimately I think that they were prompted by information that they had about people on the moon. Okay? So I think there was something external to Earth that prompted these guys to say, okay. You know, they started getting together.
Speaker 2:I think they started getting together in '63, November '20 third, the day after they shot Kennedy, I think the SOC formed. I think they were nascent ahead of that. I think that there were some elements of it that gathered in 1957. And but in 'sixty three, they formed up. And since that period of time, all of the members within that socket, the control level, in my opinion, have become aware of this external to Earth and external to humanity, pressure that, is being put on all of us, even if us guys don't recognize it or know it yet.
Speaker 2:It's being put on them. And so they've come to the point where they said, okay. You know, the money's collapsed. This this is projection. I'm projecting that sometime in the next few months, they'll come to the point where, you know, they'll say, okay.
Speaker 2:The money's collapsed. The deep state isn't gonna be able to maintain the Biden regime. It's all falling apart and this kind of thing. Now is our time to emerge. When they do emerge, there will necessarily be a focus here in The United States rebuilding, getting the social order back together and stuff.
Speaker 2:But I bet you there's this underlying current that goes through there that we're doing all of this stuff, not just because it's the good thing to do, but because we need to do it because there's something pending, and we've got to get our shit together in order to face that pending occurrence. And I think it's the interaction with the what I term the other space aliens in some form.
Seth Holehouse:And so, basically, that there are I mean, you look at the military as an example, you know, and even talking to General Flynn, who's who's become a friend in this process. You know, it's easy to look at the military and think, know, you look at General Milley and and and you know, all the different characters in it and think, oh, gosh, there's it's just completely compromised. I'm not gonna depend on them. And, you know, when push comes to shove, you know, the the ones that would have been protecting the constitution were forced out from the vaccine mandates, and they've done a great job of calling that, you know, calling the military and just keeping the ones that are gonna be following whatever orders come down from Biden. But you think that there's a strong opposition to that, that that could perhaps play a significant role in helping to really to remove this communist scourge from
Speaker 2:our country. So, I spent the first seventeen years of my life as military brat. So I've seen this from the inside. Right? I've grown into this.
Speaker 2:And so, it's true of any war. When we get into the first part of the war, the first thing we do is to shed all the generals and a lot of the colonels, that are basically useless, that are just there for their pensions, etcetera. Right? We we always have a big level of resignations of generals and and functioning colonels prior to getting into any kind of actual combat. And you'll see that this always precedes the actual emergence of that con conflict.
Speaker 2:So we were shedding generals in 1940 and 1941 in anticipation of of going into World War two. Right? The same thing happened with them in 1910 relative to the war emerging in 1913. The same thing happened in the nineteen fifties prior to, Korea, but it didn't happen quite the same because we were just coming out of World War two. We had yet to build up this, what everybody calls, the civilian military, which are the guys that wanna be diplomats, wanna put on the uniforms, and have the chauffeurs, and all of that, but have never really done anything.
Speaker 2:Right? They're not really functionaries. And the military operates, whether it's the navy or the army, I'm certain the Air Force and even the Space Force operate on this, and that is that you have non comms. Right? Non commissioned officers.
Speaker 2:That's really where the power of all militaries lie. Officers lead, but it's non commissioned officers that manage everything. And so, you will see, if you wanted to go in, it won't come out for a while. But I bet you there are whole units within our military that had no vax. The non comms would not have it operational.
Speaker 2:And so I know, personally, I have met Navy guys that went against orders prior to Korea in order that they might be able to get what they needed for their ship and their crewmate because they knew they were gonna be deployed in, like, eight months. Right? And so, no, they weren't coasting. They weren't decommissioning. They were stashing toilet paper.
Speaker 2:They were stashing ammo, everything they could do to get what their people would need. And that's just the way the non comms are. Even today, it's that way. Right? They're they have a personal interest basically in keeping themselves and their people alive when the shit hits the fan, and they can see that that fan blade's turning and stuff's gonna happen.
Speaker 2:And so I think that there is that core within our military. And you could ask General Flynn about his impression of some of these hardcore noncoms, but I know that there there are whole units. I don't know how large, so I know there's companies. I don't know if it extends up to battalions or regiments in the main, because that's a lot of individuals, three and five thousand. Right?
Speaker 2:But there there are whole units where, the they signed all the forms and said the shots were given, and they were just shit canned. They just threw them right away. So that kind of rebellion, that kind of insubordination existed, and it'll be those units that will emerge. Bear in mind, Cheyenne Mountain was shut shut up. Nobody's come out since.
Speaker 2:This was when COVID first emerged. Right? Trump says, you know, something about, you know, because of caution, we need to do this. And so we've got areas of our military that are isolated from going on relative to COVID and the shots and all of that kind of thing. I expect this stuff to change very rapidly.
Speaker 2:The nature of warfare is different now. So, people say, oh, the United States Army is so decimated, you know, and they can come and take us over easily and so on. The fact of the matter is that, yeah, we've got lots of troops that are ill. The shots did damage to to millions, and our military is in a shambles. But mostly, warfare is not gonna be waged anymore by people with carbines and people marching around.
Speaker 2:Okay? That's just not the nature of warfare anymore. It's drones. It's energy weapons, etcetera, etcetera. So you don't have to move vast quantities of men in order to accomplish your strategic or otherwise goals.
Speaker 2:You need a hardcore, relatively small group of very technically proficient people in order to achieve great things. So maybe let's say that was used let's say that there was a drone or a series of drones that were used to do Hawaii, okay, to take out Lahaina, and that it was not a satellite, that it was just just drones. So they actually had to have a crew somewhere that fueled the drone, put the batteries in, checked them, all of that kind of stuff. Right? So maybe there were a hundred people involved in doing the hit on Lahaina, the actual work.
Speaker 2:There were two or three that the decision. There were committees that decided what they're gonna do. They told Oprah and all their friends to be able to piggyback on all of this. That's just the way this thing works. But maybe there were only a hundred people that actually did it.
Speaker 2:Under those circumstances, we're in a new kind of warfare. So if you wanna see an example of this warfare, go and look at the picture of the nine eleven towers turning to rubble as they fell. Okay? That was the that was a directed energy weapon. It was not shaped charges.
Speaker 2:There's no other mechanism on this planet that causes that to occur. And the dust tells us that, by the way, because directed energy weapons do things to cement and so on that, you can find out later. And so, again, how many people were involved in bringing down the towers? So we're looking at a mass of the population against a relatively small number. That relatively small number knows they're small in number, and they have no protection once their cover is blown, once we all look at them.
Speaker 2:We're getting to that phase now. It it will go from in my opinion, it will go sweep through the upper echelon, and then something will happen. Somebody will be a whistleblower or something, and will get documentation. You know, this particular person, this particular corpsman pushed a button that caused Lahaina to disappear. And maybe he was ignorant.
Speaker 2:Maybe he didn't know that pushing that button because maybe his screen was showing him a game of, you know, that he had to solve and was part of his training. He doesn't know. He can't tell. He's just working off of a screen. But it'll come down to that point where somebody's name will come on out as having been associated with pushing a button on some of these these tasks for the deep state, and then those people will start committing suicide, being disappeared, or being confronted on the street or whatever.
Speaker 2:And at that point, when you see that start happening, then you know that we're in that last endgame relative to this part of the deep state, to their actual ability to functionally move us around. And then it's gonna be really weird because we won't have government. We won't have officialdom. Because bear in mind, all of our lives, even all of my life, okay, the first early part of my life, it wasn't as true as from the sixties on. But from the sixties on, all of our social order has been guided in a particular direction continuously, and all the fringe people were gathered up and pushed back into that direction continuously by the deep state.
Speaker 2:We were never allowed to fractional and go off and do all of these things. Right? So, now we're gonna come up to the point where, without government control, people will be doing all kinds of stuff that had been shoehorned away from them their ability. So, you know, people were starting to think about going to the moon, so they had to create NASA in order to control it. Right?
Speaker 2:So maybe we'll have a lot more private moon expeditions. Who knows what's gonna happen here? And it it is this busting open of the control that is gonna be the really strange part for all of us. So imagine this situation. You're sitting there on your porch in the evening and, just kicking back, and a spaceship comes down.
Speaker 2:And, a little mee, whoop, and it sits down there. It's sitting out in your yard. You're all a little freaked out. You don't know what to do with the dogs barking, but you don't run away. And door opens up, and out comes this being.
Speaker 2:And it says, Seth, Seth, we've been watching. We've been watching. Love your work. Can we sit down and chat? And that is official contact.
Speaker 2:Okay? Because they don't wanna talk to government. They don't wanna have anything to do with officialdom. So we have this in our in our heads that when the space aliens come here, they're gonna wanna stop in DC and talk to Biden or Pelosi. No.
Speaker 2:It it won't work that way. So our interaction will be with the space aliens is not gonna be through the layer of humanity that we call government. And once that occurs, government becomes superfluous. We don't need them anymore in any way, shape, or form. A, we're gonna be smarter because of the galactic center stuff, but we'll also be interacting with the aliens, and we'll get a lot of tips for doing things that now require government.
Speaker 2:And we won't have to do that because, well, for one thing, government's gonna collapse cause they won't have the fiat to fund themselves anymore. And that's gonna cause all kinds of problems in and of itself as all these, uselessly educated people. We've gotta reeducate them. We've gotta find something for them to do. Right?
Speaker 2:Everybody that's got a degree in gender studies has gotta go back to college to learn something, you know, fundamental and factual and productive. And we so, basically, we've got to to reeducate a whole generation, maybe two. A lot of them will unfortunately die because they took the shots. We're gonna see a big wave of that. There's a two and a half year crest.
Speaker 2:So two and a half years after you take the shot, it it appears that a number of people are fine for two and a years, and then they just keel over. So we're gonna see a big big wave of that appear. People even now are starting to say about how, you know, I took the shot and I regret it. It's, we've had a just like with my thing here, we've had a 13 times, standard deviation in our, work productivity as reported by the Department of Labor. So if you go and look at the statistics, we're running 13 times the standard deviation in the impact on our labor force.
Speaker 2:This was why they intended to bring up 40 or 50,000,000, people from Africa, Latin America, etcetera, is because they're estimating that we'll have about forty five to fifty million people die. And we're well on the the weight of that with just the disabled list. Right? So there's a lot of people that are just dropping out of the labor force that have not yet died. And in fact, they're now consuming more resources because they're involving themselves with the medical profession to try and stay alive from having taken the shot.
Speaker 2:Right? And so it was the estimate on the parts of the deep state that we were gonna need 40 to 50,000,000 new workers. Now they're going about it in, you know, in order to maintain the Biden regime and that kind of thing, and it's not organized. But it is factual that our labor force has been really hit. We won't be able to recover it with the people that we have now.
Speaker 2:We're gonna have to reorganize ourselves to accommodate this. And so maybe that's gonna be, you know, more robotics available. Maybe we're just gonna stop doing a lot of things just because of the, the lack of the people involved. You know, you just can't get a crew to do something. Therefore, you just don't do it.
Speaker 2:And, we have to focus on different things for the rest of my my life, but also for this the rest of the generations that have been affected by this pandemic. And so that would take us out to 02/1936 or so, and then we'll have a clean generation from that point on. So between now and, say, 2036, we will be reorganizing. And then from 02/1936 onward, you'd be able to say, okay. Our society is gonna sorta look like this for the, you know, for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 2:But we're in this, all frothy period that we just don't know. We can't tell because there's so much that's been damaged by the attack of the deep state on us. And and pretty soon, okay. So I've seen the early signs manifesting in reality, and, I termed it, way back when as these people won't be able to walk down the street. Okay?
Speaker 2:And we're seeing that. Bill Gates got into a limousine, and his limousine was harassed by people that were extremely angry and shouting, and had he been outside of that limousine, probably, even though it was in England, and they're very restrained, probably he would have suffered some level of ruffianism, or, you know, I don't think they would have slugged him because they're English. But, you know, they would have been, expressing unkind anger at him, and he would not have liked that. He didn't like being in the car uncertain. It's gonna get really bad for these people, and it'll go really quickly as the banks go, to the point I'm actually expecting, individuals to act out.
Speaker 2:Right? I expect, we'll find out later that some of these individuals have been vaxxed and, are just taking out their anger on the people that they see as being the the cause of their particular problem. And I say it's, you know, it's an ugly time. Those of us that survive this, are gonna be really hard sons of bitches. And that's gonna be required because we have to stand up as rock solid.
Speaker 2:I mean, like, as, you know, iron spine in dealing with these space aliens, and that part is coming.
Seth Holehouse:So the final question I had, as we round out is just what are the basic things that people should do heading into this stage of the big ugly of this massive change, the collapse of currency, social unrest? You know, what are the you know, whether people it's whether it's financial, you know, whether they're staying in the dollar or not, you know, food, living. I know it's it's it's it could be a very broad discussion. What are a few kind of key points, though?
Speaker 2:No. It's it comes down to comes down to a very simple concept, self reliance. Okay? So you can't count on anybody else. You can't count on money.
Speaker 2:You can't count on an infrastructure dependent on that money. So you are now self reliant. If you don't know how to do it, you're gonna have to figure out how to do it. The good news is you don't have to do like I did in my youth. You don't have to go and spend hours and, a day in a state library to research this stuff.
Speaker 2:You can still do it online. I expect our our electronic infrastructure to still exist and be effective, And this will seriously aid people because it's gonna be the most intense research effort ever undertaken by humanity in in the broad sense in any time in our past and probably any time in our future for a great great while because there is a need here. And so you've gotta become self reliant. So if you don't know how to do it, you better and you need to do it, you better figure out how to do it. Better research it.
Speaker 2:And every time you make a move. The big ugly part of this is that once the banking system collapses, once we get into this idea that everybody understands we're at war and there's no longer a stable footing and so on, then you're at that point where you say, oh, jeez. I'm dependent you know, this bank. So I'd better figure out how to get my money out, how to store it because the fiat won't exist. It's already degrading.
Speaker 2:Okay? So maybe you're gonna buy Bitcoin. Well, then maybe you better figure out how to run a Bitcoin wallet. And so you can't rely on people, so you gotta go and learn this online and try it and test it and and so on such that you are comfortable being self reliant. And a lot of people are not.
Speaker 2:And a lot of people want to only take direction, and so, there's gonna be a lot of histrionics. If you are a self reliant person, you're gonna come to this point where you're gonna have to shove people away because they're going to, deplete your resources with their needs, and they are not going to be offering anything back. You're and you are going to be in the position where your resources are gonna be stretched pretty thin. And so you're gonna have to say to yourself, you know, I can't support you guys. You're just gonna have to do it on your own.
Speaker 2:Right? And this is gonna be a very difficult and testing time. But as I say, all of the people that come through it are gonna be some serious humans, some some really stand up people. Right? You know, universe makes us, and universe has decided that we need to harden up.
Seth Holehouse:So there's hope. There's hope. So
Speaker 2:So I'm a hopeful person. I'm not negative at all. Yeah. Because I know that the functioning of the Kali Yuga and so forth, I'm very, very, very optimistic because I know the next generation will be born smarter than the existing one and so on and so on and so on. And at some point, I'll die and then I'll come back.
Speaker 2:Maybe I'll come back, you know, two thousand years, right? I'll be coming back in the ascending stage, so it's gonna be really cool. Maybe I'll get my floaty RV.
Seth Holehouse:There you go. Well, as we wrap up, want to direct people to your Substack. It's just cliff high dot substack dot com. This is where I go. You've got all your everything you publish comes through here that I'm seeing.
Seth Holehouse:And also just following you on Twitter, I guess x, know, as cliff underscore high.
Speaker 2:I'll put those
Seth Holehouse:links below. And so do you have any kind of final thoughts as we wrap up?
Speaker 2:Well, I worry about people. You know? So so now's the time to get off our butts and get it done. We don't have to really rush out. We gotta pace ourselves.
Speaker 2:It's, you know, we're in for the long haul. But as I say, I'm very optimistic. Things are getting better by the day even though we're in the midst of the chaos, even in Lahaina. The more they push, the more they fight, the more they're wearing down the deep state, and they will achieve their victory.
Seth Holehouse:I agree. I agree. Well, Cliff, thank you so much. I know you're you're very busy, and I really appreciate you taking the time to to speak with me and just thank you for doing what you're doing and for being here today. All right, folks, I hope you enjoyed that interview.
Seth Holehouse:We're now gonna be jumping into an economic update with Doctor. Kirk Elliott. Kirk, as usual, it's so good to have you on, man. Thank you so much for being here.
Speaker 3:It is so great to be with you as usual.
Seth Holehouse:It really is. So, I, know, admittedly, we just got over this this holiday weekend and we just finished our this massive move. So, I my head has been on like packing boxes and dealing with trying to park giant U Hauls and trailers. So I haven't been following what's happening with the financial stuff aside from following what's happening with the real estate market. And then, you know, a lot of the things going on with bricks, but I know that you have.
Seth Holehouse:So walk us through what's going on right now.
Speaker 3:Well, lucky for you that you've been moving. You're never gonna hear those words again, because you've been sad if you're watching the news. It's not good, brother. It's not good. So just be thankful that you're unpacking boxes and U Hauls and everything else.
Speaker 3:Right? So but anyway, so there's been a lot of gaslighting, I would say, from Biden over the last couple of months about how great his economy is, right? And I started thinking about this during the BRICS meetings, when when they were having the Bricks meeting, because two different types of communicators, Putin and Biden. Right? So Putin speaking from this posture of power and confidence.
Speaker 3:And and to me, it's not the narcissistic, smug, arrogant Putin. Right? It's like when you know something that that's coming down the road and you know that it's going to happen, you can speak from a point a posture of power versus it's human nature if you're telling a lie that you're not gonna have very confident, you know, approach to your conversation. Right? So when Biden talks about, oh, look.
Speaker 3:Look how great the economy is under me. Look at Look at how many jobs that we're creating when there's absolutely job losses. Look at all the gross domestic product and how it's growing and how we're so robust, right? And look at all this stuff, these advances that we're making, and they're all absolute lies, Right? So, a, you can't really understand a lot of what he says anyways, but even if you could, it's coming from a point of weakness.
Speaker 3:Right? So that's where you look at it. And so when when I was watching this this BRICS meeting and and Putin standing up there and saying, you know, all this stuff, and sure enough, that by the end of the BRICS meeting, six of the nine largest oil producers in the world are gonna be part of BRICS. They've got 31% of global production GDP versus 30% for the G seven nations. They know what what they have is something big, and they just made it bigger by basically taking away the petrodollar.
Speaker 3:Right? So so now when you've got Biden just basically talking about lies and and, you know, the even it's just no confidence, sadly, in anything. And I'm not trying to be political about it. Right? I'm just saying when he's speaking, there's just no confidence in it.
Speaker 3:He was in East Palestine the other day being interviewed and saying, aren't you I mean, people that are ticked, right, because of the of the train wreck and the spill and everything that happened a while ago. And it's like, why aren't you helping? And his answer was so awful. It's like there's people there that are dying. They're sick.
Speaker 3:They're hurt. Right? The economy's in shambles. And he said, well, don't know if you've noticed, but I've been busy traveling all over the world. It's like, what?
Speaker 3:That's your answer that you've been busy and traveling all over the world? And then you named a few countries, and it's like, your people are hurting in your own country. Knock it off. Stay home. Help.
Speaker 3:Right? It's like but maybe it's better than he doesn't help because whenever the government tries to help anything, you know, it makes it kind of worse. But but anyways, his lies. So the economy is growing. Right?
Speaker 3:So I I I pulled up this article. It's an older one, but it really paints a picture of the Biden economy because this is, you know, during the artificial intelligence, OpenAI, chat GPT, this whole big tech movement that's been going on for, like, the last nine months that we're moving in that direction. I mean, look at NVIDIA, you know, just this poster child for amazing stock success, right? And it's like, because they've got artificial intelligence, and they're they're creating the chips that allow this to happen. So you would think that all of these tech giants with this big, huge next wave that's gonna engulf the global economy, that they'd be booming, busting at the seams, hiring everybody that they possibly can.
Speaker 3:But take a look at this list right now. It was published first in January, updated in March. So it's it's a little bit dated, but the numbers are actually getting worse, not better. Right? So So Amazon, twenty seven thousand jobs cut.
Speaker 3:It's a lot of jobs, right? Meta, twenty one thousand jobs cut. Alphabet, that's Google, twelve thousand jobs cut. Microsoft, ten thousand jobs cut. Crypto.com, 5 hundred jobs.
Speaker 3:Now people are like, Kirk, that's only 500 jobs. It's like, yeah, but that's 20% of its workforce. And they're one of the largest crypto companies on the planet. Right? Coinbase, two thousand jobs cut, Dell, six thousand six hundred, eBay, five hundred, Salesforce, seven thousand jobs, Twilio, fifteen hundred, Twitter, thirty seven hundred.
Speaker 3:I mean, I can go on and on and on. These are a lot of job layoffs. Right? And so this is what's Biden saying? How can he say that the economy is growing and all these numbers are increasing when when unemployment's going through the roof?
Speaker 3:I would rather believe the companies telling us that, yeah, these people are being laid off because they have to because they can't lie at the quarterly shareholders meetings or else the SEC is down their throat. Right? So those numbers are real. Biden's numbers are not. So it's like, well, Kirk, how how can the government get away with lying?
Speaker 3:Oh, well, because they revised the numbers. See, Seth, you've been in media for a long time. Right? And if you tell a story or you're you're reporting on something and it turns out that you made a mistake. Right?
Speaker 3:And so it's like, I was wrong on that one. And so you give a revision. You recant what you said a few days later and said, I made a mistake on that. Who listens to the recant? Nobody.
Speaker 3:They only listen to the first story. So every time you see government numbers and go back and look. Go back and look at the government numbers on all these reports that are coming out. They'll post something three to four days later. It's revised lower.
Speaker 3:So they can, a, not get in trouble for lying because they said, oh, yeah, we revised those numbers. Right? But nobody reported on it. They only report on the original story. Right?
Speaker 3:So this is how they get by with some of this garbage is when you think about it, like the unemployment numbers, for example. Bureau for Labor Statistics economists, they're working on this for three months straight. You would think they would have it right the first time. Right? So it's like, but then a few days later, it's like, oh, yeah, we made a mistake.
Speaker 3:And we made a mistake the quarter before and the quarter before that and the quarter before that. And they always revise a few days later because nobody covers it. Right? So this is how they get by with lying. But at some point, it's like the boy who cries wolf.
Speaker 3:It's like nobody believes the numbers anymore. Right? People don't believe the original story anymore because they're always revised. I mean, I was even watching one of the main financial news networks and they said, well, these numbers are coming out, but we'll see we'll see what happens on the revision.
Seth Holehouse:This is
Speaker 3:like, what? Why even report the original anymore? And so so this is all this is all nonsense. Right? But but what is a bigger issue that I'm seeing other than the government lying about numbers, which they always do, is what happens to America after the BRICS meeting.
Speaker 3:Right. So, so with the BRICS meeting, you have to look at what happened. And nobody was covering that story like we talked about last time, right? CNBC, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, Fox News, BBC, nobody was covering the BRICS meeting. Like nobody.
Speaker 3:I looked during the BRICS meeting, nobody was covering Right? We covered it. Right? Other Patriot shows were covering it because it's the most monumental economic news of our lifetime. Right?
Speaker 3:I mean, it's the paradigm shifting moment of the global currency and the reserve currency of the US dollar. It's a big deal. So what happened during that BRICS meeting is they basically removed the petrodollar status, which means that we're going to have to print money like there's no tomorrow to fund all of our obligations, and we're going to have to raise rates to slow down the inflation that that printing creates. That's what's coming up, right? So, there was this article that I saw just a couple of days ago on on zero hedge, and it was so good.
Speaker 3:It was such a good article.
Seth Holehouse:Curt, before we jump into that, because I want to get it, but there's one there's a short video why I wanted to play that I thought of while you were talking about just the reality of, like, what the average American's facing versus what the White House and the mainstream media are telling us because they're telling us that things are great, but actually, let me just play this video because this guy, it's a short one minute video from TikTok where this guy goes through and looks at the differences between 1930 and 2023, and it's so telling what's really happening. So I'll play this really quick and because I know the next article you wanna get into is a really meaty one. So wanna jump in and get this out there first. So let me pull this up now.
Speaker 4:In 1930, during the Great Depression, the average home in America was $3,900. The average car was $600, and the average monthly rent was $18 or $216 a year, and the average salary was $1,300 for the year. Fast forward to today, it is $436,000 for the average home, $48 for the average car, and the average rent is $2,000 a month or $24,000 a year, And that is And we have a $56,000 income for the average American right now. So if you look back to the great depression, the house was only three times the average salary. Now it is eight times the average salary.
Speaker 4:The car was 46% of the salary. The car today is 85% of the salary. And here's the craziest part. The rent was 16% of the average salary. It is now 42% of the average salary.
Seth Holehouse:So I saw that and I was just, like, obviously we know that Biden has completely wrecked the economy, But what this also shows to me, the takeaway, is this is fiat currency. Right? I think it was Lenin that talked about is Lenin or Stalin, one of them, or both perhaps, that talked about taxation as a way of basically grinding the people down. It no, so sorry, taxation, no, it was inflation, how inflation was like the silent tax that could grind people down. I mean, that's significant right there.
Seth Holehouse:So telling us, Oh, things are great, yet everyone's thinking like you pay all your bills and it's like, well, why do I have no money left? Why do I keep, you know, having to use my credit card? Why can't I afford basic used car? Like this is, and this is the reality. It doesn't matter what side of the political aisle you're on.
Seth Holehouse:This is the reality of life in America now.
Speaker 3:Yeah. I mean, so Lenin's comment that you were talking about the gist of it is if you want to destroy a country, you destroy their currency.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah.
Speaker 3:That's it. I mean, was the gist of what he was saying and getting at, right? And he's right. And you look at those numbers, and that is the end result of fiat based money creation or money that's just printed by wind. Fiat means by decree, right?
Speaker 3:So there's no tangible backing behind it, right? So what does that tell us? That tells us wages haven't kept up with inflation. That's all that that's telling us. And that's why people are feeling so pinched.
Speaker 3:Right? That's why people are feeling like they go to the grocery store and their money doesn't go as far as it used to. Because if your wages were keeping up with the inflation, you wouldn't feel the difference. It'd just be everything's more expensive, but you're making, right? But it's not the case.
Speaker 3:Everyone's feeling every year that goes by, are feeling more and more pressured, more and more pinched. They can't make ends meet. And also back then, what's what's even makes it worse is most families only had one income earner in the house. Back then, it was societal, you know, and it's just society. The moms kinda stayed home with the kids or took care of the house while the dad was working.
Speaker 3:Now that is so far a thing of the past. Oh, yeah. You've got both moms and dads working, sometimes three jobs, right, between the two of them. Sometimes each mom and dad have two jobs each. Right?
Speaker 3:So you start amplifying that, and it makes it even worse than what those numbers are saying.
Seth Holehouse:Oh, yeah. Right? So I did a quick calculation, Greg. I'll throw out there. This is just interesting.
Seth Holehouse:So I was curious. So at that time in 1930, right, when I think gold was what? $20 an ounce. Right? That was before the Confiscation Act, which then up the price of So gold was around $20 an ounce.
Seth Holehouse:So at that time, you could buy the average house in America for around 195 ounces of gold at that time in 1930. That same 195 ounces of gold in today's numbers is almost 400,000. So that's an interesting point. It's just a side point to throw in there that, like, literally, like, you have all these changes, and if you're sitting in the dollar during that entire process, you say you've got $4,000 to buy a house in 1930, or you think, okay, or I can take $4,000 put it into gold, you know, that $4,000 so you just stuck it in, you know, in your floorboards, you dug it out today, like you can't even buy, maybe you can afford a door and a window on a house. But it's just because I know that they've used the analogy of the suit before, but looking at those numbers, was just curious with that.
Seth Holehouse:It's kind of interesting.
Speaker 3:Well, and it's so appropriate. You start looking at money at its real basic form of what it is. Gold is real money. Silver is real money. Start looking at things throughout history like what you just did, and it's an amazing thing.
Speaker 3:Gold or silver, they both have maintained their purchasing power parity over time. You're not falling behind if you would have owned gold back then and you kept it till today. You didn't fall behind at all, actually, where you've lost the dollar's lost 99% of its value since the early 1900s. '90 '9 percent. I mean, that's brutal.
Speaker 3:Right? So this is where look at precious metals, gold or silver, more as an insurance policy against a collapsing currency as opposed to something that's going to grow and get great investment results from now granted you are because you just look back three and a half years and silver was $11.91 an ounce today, it's $23.5 I think we're averaging over 30% of your growth. It's doubled three and a half years. That's incredible, right? So when you look at it, though, the way that you did, it's like, wow, I wish I would have invested in gold in the 70s or in the 80s or five years ago when I thought about it, right?
Speaker 3:And people get so caught up and it's like, well, let's go in stocks, let's go into bonds. Right? But over time, gold and silver have always proven to be the safest asset in the world. And that number you just said amplifies that statement, like puts an exclamation point around it. It's like, this is really safe.
Speaker 3:It's maintained its purchasing power over all of those hundreds of years, over all the wars that have happened, over all the inflation, over all the economic corrections, the February, the 02/2009, everything, it's maintained its purchasing power. It's amazing.
Seth Holehouse:It is. So sorry I interrupted you though because you were getting ready to talk about this article, which I'll bring up now about the rising GDP and the rising yields. And so walk us through what this means.
Speaker 3:Okay. So this this article is written by by Matthew Pipenberg with goldswitcheland.com. It's a really, really good article, But I'm going to simplify it just because bonds can be very tricky. But basically, he said, and he makes the contention, which I do as well, that for years, he's tried to make one point and so have I. The bond market's really smart.
Speaker 3:And it is the thing that is the barometer moving forward to economic correction. What's the strength of the bond market? But why? So you look at what the Federal Reserve of Atlanta had just came out with their GDP numbers for for the third quarter. Now, Federal Reserve Bank measures something different.
Speaker 3:They have all their economic experts that basically measure one thing. Can basically, it's a very siloed approach. Like the St. Louis Fed measures inflation, the Atlanta One measures gross domestic product, right? So, they said the third quarter GDP was 5.9%.
Speaker 3:So is that number real or is it phony baloney like every other government number that comes out? Well, let's just assume that it's real. I do think it's overstated, but let's just assume that it's real. Well, what is gross domestic product? GDP measures everything that you and I and everybody in the country are buying at retail prices from Target and Best Buy or wherever.
Speaker 3:Right? So those things that are produced in America. So what should it then be if it's measuring retail prices that we're spending money on and inflation is measuring the prices of what we're spending on GDP. If the economy were actually growing would keep up with inflation, it should be the same. So GDP should be in the 15 to 20% range, because that's unofficially what inflation is hovering at.
Seth Holehouse:So basically meaning that that say, you know, I'm buying a pen and a pen used to be say $5 because of inflation, say it's now $6 right? They're saying, Oh, you know, well, now you spent $6 so there's a, say a 20 percent increase in GDP, but they're not accounting for the fact that it's actually just 20% more expensive. So it does so basically, if am I correct in understanding that if GDP is say 5%, inflation is 15%, that's a 10% reduction? Like, the GPs actually is a negative 10%?
Speaker 3:No. It's it's actually worse than that. So so let's just say we're 5% and inflation's at 15. So that's one third of the total GDP. So that means the economy is really contracted by 67%.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 3:Right? Because it's it's 67% less than what inflation does that. Right? So so these numbers, they're bragging about 5.9%, and they said we could even see a surge of over 8%. It's like, this isn't good.
Speaker 3:Right? It's because it's not keeping up with inflation. You always have to measure everything in light of inflation, like the purchasing power that we talked about of the houses and the cars and everything that we looked at, right? It's like, well, who cares if GDP is growing by 5% when the house has gone up by like 80 times. Right?
Speaker 3:Who cares? So you GDP should measure inflation, should equal inflation. Well, it doesn't. So what does this now start to tell us a story of? So let's look at so the the the point of all this is they think that the economy is growing.
Speaker 3:However, this is where these economists I'm not saying that they're stupid. I'm not saying that the economists at the treasury or the fed are stupid. They're very smart PhDs. They're not telling you the right information on purpose. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Right? So so the the treasury market, the the US treasury bond is should be the most the safest asset in the world, and it's been considered that for decades. Right? It's it's and why? Well, because it's the long term treasury bill of The United States, the the most robust economy, the wealthiest nation.
Speaker 3:And even when push comes to shove, if we run out of money, congress is just gonna raise the debt ceiling and print more money because we're the reserve currency. So, basically, the propensity for a default on a US treasury has been about zero. It's actually been considered a risk free investment. So when you have something that's got very little risk, it's going to have a very low rate of return. The interest rate is going be like, it was like 1%, like forever, right?
Speaker 3:So compare that to a junk bond, you know, like Michael Milken, the junk bond salesman king, So here's what he had to do to sell junk bonds to his clients and say, Hey, have I got a deal for you? Right? So there's this company, they might go out of business in nine months, but you could make a killing on it in that nine months because they're paying 15% interest on their bonds. Right? That's a junk bond.
Speaker 3:Right? Versus the US Treasury, which is classified as the safest asset in the world, very low interest rate. So what's happening with treasuries around the world right now? The yields are going up, which means their safety is not really there. Whenever you have a higher yield, it always means a riskier investment.
Speaker 3:So you got to keep that in mind. You've got all this debt that we're amassing as a country, and now the cost of servicing that debt is going up not just on on corporate bonds or muni bonds, but at the at the sovereign debt level. To me, that's the slow death of a country. And it's not just happening here, it's happening all over the world. So it is like this article saying this is a major sign of an uh-oh.
Speaker 3:I wouldn't say it's an uh-oh, I'd say it's a death trap is what I would say that it is because debt driven growth is not growth. Like these supposedly smart economists at the Fed and at the treasuries, debt driven growth is not growth, it's stimulus money. Growth comes from you and me and everybody else going and buying those pens with our own money, buying TVs with our own money, buying cars, buying houses. That's real growth. Debt based growth is not real growth.
Speaker 3:So debt based growth is an oxymoron. It just truly is. You can't have debt based growth. Now you can in the short term, you provide stimulus money. That stimulus money gets injected into the stock market, gets handed out to people.
Speaker 3:Short term, it can boost an economy. Medium and long term, it's the death of that economy. Because ultimately, you have to pay back the piper. Right? So that's where we are.
Seth Holehouse:I'll just throw a quick about so basically, I like breaking this down in little analogies that my little pea brain can understand, right? So, it's kind of like, say, you know, my household expenses are $5,000 a month, and that's representative of what my capacity to earn money and etc. But say I get a credit card with a, you know, say a hundred thousand dollar limit and I start spending extra $10 every month with a credit card. And I'm like, look, I'm actually, I'm going through, I'm at a $15,000 a month lifestyle, you know, like I'm growing, I'm expanding, but I'm doing it through taking on more and more debt. So it's actually, it's deceptive because it's almost like negative growth.
Seth Holehouse:It's like, yeah, you're increasing your money flowing through, but every month you're actually going more and more into debt. Is that kind of a way of understanding it?
Speaker 3:Yeah. See, they would view that extra $10,000 a month that you're spending as economic growth because you're actually spending the money. The problem is, like if you're a business owner, you've got your expenses and your income on your income statement, right? If expenses are greater than your income, you're going to go out of business. I mean, it's just the end result.
Speaker 3:So they view that as growth where I view it as the death trap because ultimately people hit their max credit line. Then they have to stop. It's like, well, now they've got these payments. It's like, we can't make these payments. Right?
Speaker 3:It's like, what do we do? So this is where we are. So when something is an oxymoron, meaning it absolutely doesn't make sense, the only people that believe an oxymoron to be true are morons. Right? And they're the ones that are writing it.
Speaker 3:They're the ones that are writing these laws of these oxymorons, and they're the only ones that believe it. Right? So let's paint this picture with a story, because I think everybody who has college age kids is going to realize, oh my word, telling the truth on this one. Right? So it's in this article, they they call it the the tale of the drunk and stupid.
Speaker 3:Right? So I'm going to embellish it a little bit for story's sake. So let's just say, Seth, that you are a frat boy. You're in college, you're in this frat house, and everybody else in the frat house is also a frat boy. Well, frat boys have dads that give them credit cards to use in college.
Speaker 3:Right? So if you're living in this frat house, you're getting you've got daddy's credit card. What's the first thing that you're gonna buy? It's like, oh, guys, let's build a bar in the house. And then let's stock that bar with top shelf liquor.
Speaker 3:It's like, oh, we're gonna have parties every night. And so we can't just have that. Let's get the biggest giant screen, TV screen that we can, but we're gonna have to have a big party couch to sit on. And so they start spending all this money and live this party lifestyle. And what's the end result?
Speaker 3:The end result is they're in college to to learn. Right? And their grades, because they're not focusing on school, go from a to b to c to d to f. Dad's seeing the the report cards, and he he calls up, son, I'm cutting you off from your credit card. You're wasting all of my money, parting it up, not studying.
Speaker 3:I paid for your college. I'm paying for the stupid lifestyle, and now you're getting f's. No more credit card fee. And every other dad in the frat house starts to do the same thing over time. So now apply that to Washington, DC.
Speaker 3:DC is the frat boy. The dad's credit card is the printing press, Right? So so people in DC are just spending all this money, all this frivolous money, stimulus, raising the debt ceiling, doing all this garbage, and now daddy's credit card has run out because of what happened during the BRICS meeting and Putin and Xi saying, we're taking away the petrodollar status of the US dollar. That foreign capital inflow ceases. It's the only way we've been able to amass $32,000,000,000,000 worth of debt and people still want our currency.
Speaker 3:So now that that's going away, we're gonna be forced to print money like there's no tomorrow to keep the lifestyle up. And so what how do they slow down that inflation? They raise interest rates. Right? And so this is where you're starting to see the yield on sovereign debt rise across the globe because daddy's credit card has been cut off.
Speaker 3:The credit limits have been reached. And now the only thing that comes how do you fix it? Right? So how do you fix a declining economy? It's not with stimulus money.
Speaker 3:It's with people working, people spending. Right? Because debt based growth is not growth. That's an oxymoron. Growth only comes from people spending their own money.
Speaker 3:So you need to have a bigger boat. Right? So to stay afloat in this economy, you need to have a bigger boat where there's more people working, more people spending, more that means more income tax revenues, more sales tax revenues, more property tax revenues. The government revenue streams will go up with a bigger boat. Without a bigger boat, the economy sinks.
Speaker 3:The whole boat sinks. Right? So the policies that we're seeing right now, rising taxes, rising interest rates, and wage reduction, which that TikTok video that you showed proved wage reduction is there. Don't believe what the Biden administration is telling you. When a house what was what was the average price of a house back in the early nineteen hundreds?
Speaker 3:You said it was like
Seth Holehouse:I think I have it up right here. Yeah, so the average price Income
Speaker 3:was 13,000.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah, so the average, just average yearly income was 1,300. The average house cost was 3,900. So, three times the amount of average income, whereas now the average house is eight times the average income.
Speaker 3:Yep. So, people are running out of income. Wages, obviously, have been coming down, not just this year, but for decades as inflationary pressures have persisted. Now, you can hide that for a bit until you max out your credit line, right? Like what you explained.
Speaker 3:Once you hit your credit line, it's all unmasked. And that's what we're seeing right now, which is why this rising yield and rising GDP is actually to me the sure sign of the death of the dollar as we know it. It's the slow death of The US economy, and I don't even think it's going to be that slow. I think it's going to accelerate. And so here's where we now start to hit a dilemma.
Speaker 3:So throughout history, and I know that you're a student of history just like I am, I love it. I love historical stuff. So, always following an economic collapse is social collapse. It always follows it 100% of the time. Right?
Speaker 3:So, you look at what happened in France you know, four months ago or so when when France you've got all these socialist people in France, in socialist country France, that paid excess taxes their whole life because it's a socialist country for them to take care of them during retirement. So what did France do? Macron said, hey, we kind of ran out of money. Sorry, everybody. We're gonna raise your retirement age.
Speaker 3:You can't actually retire for a few more years. People started to revolt. Blood in the streets, right? Riots, protests. I mean, nothing against old people.
Speaker 3:I've got a gray beard, right? But 70, 80 year old people in the streets were being knocked down by cops because they were just protesting. It's like, we're socialists living in a socialist country and paid higher taxes, and we want our retirement. It's all that they were asking for. And the government took it away because they ran out of money.
Speaker 3:Well, what comes next? What comes next after they raise the retirement age is what happened in Cyprus and Greece way back in the day and what happened in Argentina and Venezuela. Then you have other austerity measures like reducing benefits while increasing the retirement age. Anything that the government can do to save money. Right?
Speaker 3:So what happens is you saw the social chaos happen there. Washington DC this week, I saw this article, I thought it was an article about the hurricane that just blew through Florida. Right? It's like all the shelves were empty. It's like, then I read it's like, wait, this has nothing to do with the hurricane.
Speaker 3:This is in DC. Basically, Giant Foods, which is like grocery store, like Kroger, Safeway, or, you know, Piggly Wiggly or whatever, right? Large grocery store chain in the Mid Atlantic. They basically are taking all the brand name stuff off the shelves and replacing it with generic store brand stuff, hoping that not everybody's gonna steal it because people are stealing the name brand stuff. So here's where in social decay, this is kind of the ugly reflection of humanity, right, where something that's unethical and immoral, like stealing, becomes a higher order, you know, than a morality thing than and that so how do I explain it?
Speaker 3:If you're forced with feeding your family or not, even stealing becomes an ethical decision. Right? So it's just like higher order of morality. Even though it's wrong, it's like, should I steal because I don't want my family to starve? Yeah.
Speaker 3:I think I'm gonna do it because I don't want my family to starve, and people start justifying immoral bad actions. Government officials are justifying stealing from us through all this increased inflationary pressures and printing money like there's no tomorrow to keep the thing afloat. Right? Because they're not gonna get voted back in if they don't. So what we're starting to see is the rise of social disarray.
Speaker 3:It starts with theft and burglaries and robberlies. In every big city around the country, you're seeing a rise in violent crime, muggings, lootings, death, guns, stabs, I mean, everything. It's starting to actually happen, which of course it's going to happen. It always follows economic chaos, always, a % of the time. Doesn't matter how advanced or unadvanced the society is, it always follows it.
Speaker 3:Right? So we're starting to go down that path, and and we're even now seeing it with politics. Right? So so the social decay that we're seeing look what Adam Schiff did last week. So or was it actually earlier this week?
Speaker 3:Saw the article, you know, has to do with with J6 and Trump being arrested. Right. And so so he brought up section Article 14, Section three of the Constitution said it says anybody who's in part of an insurrection or aiding people or helping them in insurrection can never hold public office. Right? So so this is gonna go to the supreme court because now there are states that are saying we're not gonna put Trump on the twenty twenty four election on the ballots.
Speaker 3:Right? So imagine just imagine this. The massive front runner on the GOP possibly not being able to run, right, because the states won't put them on the ballot. And so this is gonna go to the supreme court. What if the supreme court says, yeah, Trump, you can't run?
Speaker 3:What's that going to do to social chaos in this country? It's gonna be wild. I'm not trying to be a prophet. I'm just saying when when I don't care if you're on the left or the right. When your front runner says we can't run, and and based on Adam Adam Schiff's own words in that article that you have on the screen, he said, the constitution doesn't say you have to be convicted of the crime.
Speaker 3:It just says that you have to be part of it, right, to to not hold public office. So it's like, what? Anybody anywhere can make up anything about anybody. And what they're saying is the rule of law in America doesn't exist anymore, and you are guilty until proven innocent. Right?
Speaker 3:And so that to me is evidence of social decay and what's happening. And it all comes from economic collapse. The the what we're seeing right now is a function of Biden's economy, and it was Bill Clinton that said it really, really well. It's like, it's the economy, stupid. Right?
Speaker 3:People vote with their wallets. Right? And if the economy stinks, this is why you're you're going to distract. This is why when the BRICS meeting was happening and I was surfing through the channels looking for news on the Internet anywhere, nobody was covering the most important economic news story of a century, literally. It's the changing of the guard.
Speaker 3:It's the paradigm pendulum shifting moment of moving power from the West to the East and removing the US dollar's reserve currency status. That's what it was. But what was everyone focused on? Trump's mugshot? It's like, well, I don't care about the mugshot.
Speaker 3:I don't care how he looked. I do care that the irrational reasoning of why he had to have a mugshot. Right? I mean, that's bogus garbage. But or they were concerned about counterfeit Taylor Swift tickets during her concert tour or all this other dumb stuff, you know, just deflecting from the important to the meaningless and keeping people's eyes off of what's really, really, truly important.
Speaker 3:Right? So you add all of this up, we've got economic collapse, societal collapse, and we are going to be in a dark period for a bit. I mean, we just are because you don't come through these things real quickly, But there is light at the end of the tunnel, right? This is why I can have a smile on my face while you can, because financially there's solutions. We've been talking about it for a long time.
Speaker 3:Gold and silver doing very, very well. We talked about how it maintains its purchasing power over time. That's another added element. We talked about how it gets you out of the central bank digital currency system. And so you're no longer a digital slave in their digital world where they can cut you off from buying or selling because it's a tangible asset that you take delivery of.
Speaker 3:It doesn't have title. There's no property taxes on it, right? Like a house, which is a tangible asset. But you don't really own a house even when you own it. Just try not paying your property taxes and see what happens.
Speaker 3:It's like they'll sell it in a tax lien auction. Right? So gold and silver, there's no title to it. It's like a bearer bond. If you have it, it's yours kind of a deal.
Speaker 3:And you could use it for barter in a worst case scenario. You know, I I know that that you're very much a preparedness guy. Right? Because people need food, storage food. They should have silver.
Speaker 3:They should have their own garden. They should be able to self sustain in an economic crisis. I don't care if it's a hurricane blowing through town, tornado, economic collapse, you lose your job and you just can't afford to live for a bit. Right? It would be really good if you were prepared for things like that coming up.
Speaker 3:But I'm talking about it's going to be more of a prolonged contraction of the economy. And people just need to decide now how to overcome and actually thrive during those timeframes that I think that we're going to be in. And but when you are, that will put a smile on your face because you're going to be able to not just survive, but thrive with the growth that we're seeing in metals, the ability to put food on the table for your families. Because here's what comes after this chaos and collapse. And again, not trying to be a prophet, just human nature, right?
Speaker 3:During times of crisis, people will give up their freedoms. So, you have this crisis that's so bad and people can't feed the families and they've resorted to stealing to feed their families, right? I mean, that's what we're seeing already. What's the carrot that the central bank digital currencies are going to use? I think it's going to be universal basic income saying, you take our CBD system and you'll have $1,000 a month in credits and debits and credits coming into your account every month.
Speaker 3:Just take it. It's like, don't take it. It's your ultimate loss of freedom and privacy ever. But they're going to make it really difficult for you to want to say no. Right?
Speaker 3:But if you have something where you can afford to say no, because you're prepared, then it doesn't matter. And that's how you can have a smile on your face, even though our freedoms are eroding all around us.
Seth Holehouse:Well, one interesting point is that, say, you know, you're in a bind. The thing with, say, silver, for instance, you know, say you've got, you know, 30 ounces of silver, and you need some quick money, you know, it's something that even locally, you can go find. There's coin shops, you know, there's different kinds of gold buyers. So even if you have to, like in a pinch, it's like it becomes that last resort where you pull out a few coins, you go sell maybe you might lose a few percentage points in that sale, but it's it's liquid. It converts.
Seth Holehouse:You'll find any number of those people that they say, Hey, do you buy, do you buy generic rounds? They'll say, Yeah. It's like, What are you paying? We pay spot, you know, or whatever it is. And it's like, Oh, okay.
Seth Holehouse:So it's it's not like it's some asset, like say you're investing in a painting or a stock or something where if you want to pull your money out of that, it's a complicated process. So just a thing to kind of put out there and what I suspect is that as things get worse and worse, you're gonna have people that start opening up more businesses that are that are actually buying precious metals and converting them and trading them and authenticating them, you know, that that was my old business, is I had people come in, they'd be like, I need money, you know, here's my dad left me, here's, you know, 400 ounces of silver. So I look at it, I test it, and I'd say, okay, well, here's a check or here's cash, right? So it's just, it's interesting how it's just interesting looking at that, that video about life in 1930 and life now. Because I guess I'd always heard the suit analogy, like, know, you could buy a whole suit for a single gold coin, how it's the same.
Seth Holehouse:It's just, it's just interesting to look at these, to trace these currencies and and the role of different currencies in bartering and trading over the course of history.
Speaker 3:Yeah. I mean, it it is what people do. Where there's a will, there's a way. Right? And if you can't survive and feed your family, you will and or basically mom and pops, merchants don't want the currency anymore for a whole host of ideological reasons, financial reasons, whatever.
Speaker 3:You better have something that you can barter with and trade with to feed your family until things transition out of that phase and we get back to a sense of normalcy again. Normalcy always comes, right? But it might be a while. It might be a while. And this is why we're protecting and preserving and thriving right now with silver.
Seth Holehouse:And it reminds me of a, there's a story that heard is either Argentina or Venezuela that after the collapse and after the currency had collapsed, people were lining up with wheelbarrows full of cash to buy a chicken. Right? Like, that's that's how bad the hyperinflation was. Yet a single ounce of silver would feed a family for about a month. So that was like, to me, that's that's the contrast of what happened.
Seth Holehouse:So anyway, Kirk, I know we're kind of past time for you, but just quickly before you sign off, folks, if you want to get ahold of Kirk or his company, give them a call (720) 605-3900 to speak to an advisor there or go to goldwithseth.com, fill out the form below and one of his advisors will contact you and that information is in the description as well. So Kirk, as usual, thank you so much for coming on the show. I always enjoy these conversations. I can't wait till I have the studio set up for the in person because I'd love to have you come and spend three hours or more just just sitting and talking. So thank you for coming on.
Speaker 3:Yep. I can't wait. That'd be awesome. I will talk to you soon.
Seth Holehouse:Alright. Thank you, Kirk.