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Be Not Deceived is a podcast dedicated to looking at Biblical truth and comparing it to the lies the world and the devil is telling to cause deception in the church and in our society at large in the present day. The devil is trying to deceive as many as possible, but God always wins!
[Speaker 2]
Welcome to Be Not Deceived. This is the podcast about getting into the Bible and seeing what the Bible has to say about the truth of many different topics and subjects. I have Pastor Rick Beaudry here with us, Calvary Chapel, Bremerton's pastor and from Bremerton, Washington.
So welcome. And I would like to dive in today with the topic of prophecy and how the Bible is packed full of prophecy, 27% of the Bible is prophecy. And I'd like to touch a lot of different points of the Bible about prophecy and prophets and just have the opportunity to discuss what is prophecy, who are the prophets, who are the false prophets in the Old Testament and the New Testament, and maybe even in today's vernacular in our world today.
Also, I would like to really find out why is it important that prophecy is taught in the churches today? So I know a lot of people out there will really be excited about maybe hearing about prophecy because this is, I believe you say many times that only 2% of the churches out there are teaching prophecy or is that the correct percentage?
[Speaker 1]
A recent poll indicated that less than about 2% of churches teach prophecy.
[Speaker 2]
Wow. And so we'd like to know why is it important to teach prophecy if so many churches aren't doing it? Why aren't they doing it?
[Speaker 1]
And only 6% of the church believe in a pre-trib rapture, 6%.
[Speaker 2]
And we talked about the rapture in last week's podcast episode. So if you haven't seen that one, make sure you take the time out to look at part one and part two that is on our YouTube channel, which is bbe.notdeceivedatyahoo.com. If you would like to look that up and follow us as there's more and more coming.
So we're very excited for today. Yeah. So I think we should start maybe in Matthew 24.
[Speaker 1]
Okay.
[Speaker 2]
And I was going to read a little bit about what Jesus says in Matthew 24 about one of the prophecies that he proclaims in, I'm going to just start at the very, chapter 24, verse 1. It says, Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him and called his attention to its buildings. Do you see all these things?
He asked, truly, I tell you, not one stone here will be left on another. Everyone will be thrown down. So that's a prophecy right there, straight from Jesus.
[Speaker 1]
Yeah.
[Speaker 2]
So what is he talking about there?
[Speaker 1]
He's asking three questions, when, what, and where, or no, when, what, and what. And so they're looking at the temple. They're seeing not all these things, verily I say unto you, there shall not be one stone upon another to all be thrown down.
And he sat upon the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately saying, tell us when shall these things be? And we know that the temple began to be built in 20 BC. This is the second temple period, Zerubbabel's temple.
King Herod the Great was busy building it. Jesus spoke this in about 30 AD. And then in 64 AD, the temple was complete.
And in 70 AD, Titus surrounded the city of Jerusalem, put a siege upon it, and destroyed it. So Jesus is speaking of, that's the when, is the 70 AD, not one stone would remain upon another. And so historically, a fire broke out, and they pride barred all the stones because the gold melted down in.
And so upon the Mount of Olives, when shall these things be? And what shall be the sign of thy coming? And that's found in verse 30, verse 30 of chapter 24.
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. There's your sign. And then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of Man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
And so the second coming. So you're at 70 AD. And now he's letting them know that what should be the sign and the end of the age.
So you're coming and the end of the age. So when, what, and what? And he answers it in the last two in verse 30.
[Speaker 2]
And that's not exactly what the disciples were looking for. They were like, wow, Jesus, look at this. It's such a beautiful temple.
Look what we've got. Look what we've got here. And so they were probably pretty shocked about what his answer was to them.
So they're like, what? Wait a second. You're telling us that it's going to be totally destroyed?
Why would, how could that possibly ever happen? Because it was so magnificent, right?
[Speaker 1]
And he hadn't been crucified yet. He'd been telling them he was going to be crucified and it wasn't getting through to him. They'd kept fighting over who was going to be the greatest.
James and John's mother, Salome, went to Jesus privately and said, hey, when you're in your kingdom, can one of my sons sit on your left hand, one on the right hand? So they kept jockeying over who was going to be the greatest and what position they would have in his kingdom. And they were thinking that their mindset was that he was going to overthrow the Romans.
The kingdom was right now.
[Speaker 2]
Right then. Right now.
[Speaker 1]
Yeah.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah.
[Speaker 1]
And they didn't see him being cut off. They didn't see Daniel 9, 27, that Messiah would be cut off. And so they, he rode into Jerusalem on, you know, on Hosanna, Hosanna, Hosanna on Palm Sunday, on the very day prophesied that he would be 483 years after the command to go and restore and rebuild Jerusalem.
But he was rejected by the nation. The nation didn't receive him as Messiah. So on March 14th, 445 BC, the command went out on April 6, 32 AD.
He rode in, according to Zechariah, on a donkey. And on this very day, he says, Luke, you didn't know the time of your visitation. So the city's left you desolate.
And he's weeping over the city. He could see that Titus would destroy it. But the disciples, it wasn't penetrating.
It wasn't getting through to them. They just didn't understand how Messiah could be cut off. And then it wasn't until the resurrection that, because Mary Magdalene came back and they thought it was just idle tales.
Oh, yeah, sure. He's resurrected.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah, he's not there.
[Speaker 1]
And he chided them. Oh, you know, slow of heart to believe, you know, the two on the road to Mass and the angels, you know, all of it. So it took a while for it to register.
It took a while for it to come in. And then even Peter, after he saw the resurrected Lord, went back to fishing. And several of the other, I think seven of them went back to fishing with him, the seeking Ezra of Galilee.
And then he's alongside the shore. And children, you caught any fish? And that's sort of a deja vu when he first called them.
[Speaker 2]
Yep. On the day, fishers and men.
[Speaker 1]
Yeah. And their nets were full of fishes. And so he, and then even after that, Peter was reticent.
He was like, I failed. I denied you three, you know.
[Speaker 2]
They weren't really grasping the whole, the whole thing.
[Speaker 1]
Well, he was, he was, I denied you. He knew he's resurrected. But now Peter felt left out.
He felt like I failed. You can't use me.
[Speaker 2]
I'm not good enough.
[Speaker 1]
But the Lord was restoring him. Now, as, as he breathed on them, said, receive you the Holy Spirit. And then he told them to wait for the promise of the father.
Right. And so after the resurrection, after Pentecost, now they were charged because he told Max one eight. He said, you receive power.
[Speaker 2]
Power.
[Speaker 1]
And the Holy Ghost comes upon you. So now they're, they're getting it now. They're getting it that.
All right. He's coming back. We don't know when he's coming back.
No man knows the day or the hour, but we know our mission now. We know that we're to go and make disciples.
[Speaker 2]
And that makes sense because we need the Holy Spirit. You and I need the Holy Spirit, uh, believers today, uh, beyond ourselves. We cannot do it.
And that's a great example of, of, um, Jesus himself living with them for so long, teaching them one-on-one and they still didn't get it, but the Holy Spirit who is our comforter. He's the one who reminds us of the word of God, his truth. Um, power, we get power to do, to do what God's called us to do beyond our own self, which is so amazing, right?
Even as a pastor, when you go up there and you've done your due diligence in your study and your, and, but then when you walk up there and you deliver the word that God has put on your heart, I'm sure, you know, that the Holy Spirit takes over and he is leading and guiding you sometimes in a direction that you maybe did not even plan.
[Speaker 1]
Um, yeah, there's, there's, there's a dynamic of, um, the Holy Spirit coming upon you. There's times where the Lord, um, you know, lets you try to do it, you know, in your own strength and there's like a struggle that's taken place.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah.
[Speaker 1]
And then, um, and then all of a sudden, you know, you're kind of taken, taken along here. The Holy Spirit carries you, carries you along. And, uh, my experience is that, um, when Jesus told the disciples, take no thought of what you're going to say, you know, that I will give you what to say.
I have notes and I've studied and I have structure. I'm not just speaking extemporaneously, first thing off my head. But as we're, as the, the anointing or the empowering during study time is similar to actual deliver of the message.
So he, he's reaching people through the foolishness of preaching and foolishness of the message preached. Um, he can, my wife reminds me, he can use a donkey.
[Speaker 2]
I was going to say, even a donkey spoke. Yeah. Proclaimed God's, uh, God's word.
[Speaker 1]
And in the tribulation period, he's going to use an angel to overhead with everlasting gospel. But we're privileged as Christians to be filled with the Holy Spirit, the indwelling and also the epi, the upon experience, the power, the dunamis dynamic power for all of our ministry. So, um, we can study to show ourselves approved unto God at work when that need not to be shame, rightly dividing the word of truth.
So we're, we're sowing the word in our heart and then the Holy Spirit brings the word to remembrance. And so for me, um, what happens is my mind starts to flood with scriptures and they connect and I have a hard time keeping up with it. This, his own brothers don't believe in him.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah. Right. Not until after he was rose from the dead.
Yeah.
[Speaker 1]
They think he's beside himself.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah.
[Speaker 1]
And so, um, he said, he said a prophet is not without honor, except, you know, in his own community, in his own family.
[Speaker 2]
Right.
[Speaker 1]
You know, but the false prophet, Paul told the church of Corinth, you love these false prophets. These false prophets come in here and they steal from you. They take your money.
They wear fancy clothes and they're fancy and they have doctrines and they have, they have doctorates and letters to prove it. How, you know, trying to show how important they are.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah.
[Speaker 1]
And, um, and, uh, the more I love you, the less you love in return, but they're falling over themselves to, uh, try to appease the false prophets who are demanding of them.
[Speaker 2]
Right.
[Speaker 1]
And Paul's, Paul's abusive to them, abusive to them. Really abusive. Merchandising, you know, but the people love it.
So Jeremiah said, Jeremiah five, Jeremiah five 31, you know, God says that these, these prophets are speaking on their own. I didn't send them and I didn't give them that message, but the people love it.
[Speaker 2]
So yeah. Isn't that funny? Our flesh is so crazy.
We love, we love to hear what we love sugar and we love, we love to hear what we want to hear. What makes us feel good right now?
[Speaker 1]
Candy.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah.
[Speaker 1]
You know, and it's a therapeutic, feel good messages. Nobody wants to hear that America is going down. Nobody wants to hear that America is not mentioned in prophecy.
What sells, if I want a big church is we're going to make America great.
[Speaker 2]
Right.
[Speaker 1]
You know, we're going to, we're going to, God loves America.
[Speaker 2]
God's jazzed up.
[Speaker 1]
God's American. God is an American and he loves his country. We are exceptional.
And that's what the false prophets do.
[Speaker 2]
Right.
[Speaker 1]
And, um, uh, where the word of God is calling the nations under repentance.
[Speaker 2]
Right.
[Speaker 1]
And Jonah and the Lord can put a mirror up for us. The mirror for us to know where we're at is a type of leaders. We have, when you see the type of leaders we have, that's where God's saying, I see your hearts.
I see who you really are. And this is who you really are. This is the type of country you are.
You're pedophiles.
[Speaker 2]
Right.
[Speaker 1]
You're greedy. You're covetous.
[Speaker 2]
We're okay with taking the 10 commandments down in our, in our capitals. We're okay with, with kicking God out of the schools. We're okay with murdering babies.
Right. We're okay with all these things. Right.
And how long does the Lord wait and watch and be appalled by the prostitution of our allow, you know, um, allowing these things to just continue without standing up and saying, these are wrong. These are wrong things. We need, we need to honor God and his, and his love for children, his love for his commandments, his, his, his established, uh, ways, because he doesn't do it because he's selfish and he wants his own way.
He does it because he knows those 10 commandments will keep us safe. Those, those not killing babies is, is us deciding that murder is wrong, you know? But we are motivated by our selfishness.
Right.
[Speaker 1]
Jesus said that he would give the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit would convict the world of sin, of righteousness, and of judgment of sin, because they believe not in me, of righteousness, God's righteous standard, because I ascend up to the father, and of judgment because the Prince of this world is judged. So the problem in America is the pulpits. The pulpits are not calling the so-called professing church under repentance.
Instead, the pulpits are filled with people telling the people what they want to hear.
[Speaker 2]
What they want to hear.
[Speaker 1]
And because of that, you have a lot of false believers, false professions of faith that one day they're going to hear the Lord say away from me, I never knew you, you that practice iniquity. So if, if you look at an immune system in the United States, a country, a culture, a church, all of us, we have an immune system. And in that immune system, the body will attack that which is cancerous, that which is going to destroy the body.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah.
[Speaker 1]
And so that's part of the job of the prophet, the job of the who's going to speak forth God's word. It's God's word that identifies and exposes lies and error and sin. And then the Holy Spirit convicts, the Holy Spirit convicts the world of sin.
So the Holy Spirit shows the world the need for Jesus. You need Jesus. Jesus died for your sins.
And for the Christian who's sinning, the Holy Spirit will, when I'm in church or listening to a message or reading, the Holy Spirit will say, Rick, you're guilty. And Rick, I'm convicting you, not condemning, I'm convicting you. And so for the Christian, as Chuck Mistry used to say, we have the Christian's bar of soap, 1 John 1, 9.
If we confess our sin, which means I'm going to agree with the Holy Spirit. If we confess our sin, he's faithful and just to forgive us of our sin and to cleanse us of all unrighteousness. So what happens, the dynamic when a pastor is teaching the word, he's able to address every single person in the room because it's the Holy Spirit speaking through God's word.
[Speaker 2]
Right.
[Speaker 1]
And the Holy Spirit's able to take God's word, which Hebrews 4, you know, tells us God's word is living and powerful and sharper than an intuitive sword, dividing the center of soul and spirit and joint marrow and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. So the word of God reaches in to the deep recesses. Remember when we're in Jeremiah 79, the heart's deceitful above all things, desperately wicked.
Who can know it? God's word knows the heart and God's word reveals to me where I've sinned, where I'm wrong, where I need an attitude adjustment. It's not my wife's fault.
It's my fault. I need to look in the mirror. And then now vertically, I can align myself, realign myself with God, get back in fellowship with him.
And then now on the horizontal plane, it doesn't seem to be that big of an issue anymore. Right.
[Speaker 2]
As soon as we get this correct.
[Speaker 1]
Yeah, the vertical. But if I'm lying to myself and I'm being lied to by the so-called experts in the pulpits who are teaching psychology and feel good messages. And apparently right now the vogue, the trending theme is mental illness, mental I'm hurt.
I feel bad. And so how do we come to there? How do we get to that point?
How did we as a church in America come to the point that we're the victims, that we can't cope, we can't deal with reality? What happened?
[Speaker 2]
Everybody shut us down or tried to. Tried to tell everybody they need to isolate themselves. And God created us to be human, connected people.
We need each other. We need fellowship. We need to worship God and we need to go to church.
[Speaker 1]
How do we connect people to God? Isn't that our job to connect people to God? Yeah.
Through the word of God, through the teaching of the word. Yeah. But if we don't give them the word of God, they're not connecting with God.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah, yeah.
[Speaker 1]
God's word really diagnosing what's going on in my heart because I don't even know my own heart.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah.
[Speaker 1]
And then cutting out that stuff or identify it or, you know, as you look into the mirror of God's word, you see yourself, you see who I am, a relationship to God is and I can make adjustments. I can say, Lord, I confess, Lord, I'm blowing it. And Lord, I don't have the strength in and of myself to deal with these things.
Lord, I can't make the pain go away. I can't make the hurt go away. Lord, can you do something greater than the pain I'm feeling?
Yeah, yeah. And he's the only solution for that.
[Speaker 2]
He's the only solution for that. And if we're not even offering that, we're not offering the true message of, like you just said, that he looks at the heart. He goes deep into our hearts and exposes our sin and our motivations and the things that we're doing wrong.
People don't want to necessarily, those are uncomfortable things, you know, so they'd rather hear the false prophets.
[Speaker 1]
Yeah.
[Speaker 2]
Because here's a teddy bear, you know, find a safe space and hug that teddy bear, which does not help us at all. It's a false security. It's a false psycho babble message.
[Speaker 1]
That's a great idea you have. I'm going to try and build the church by giving everybody a teddy bear at the front door. Everyone, when they come through, I'm going to give them a teddy bear and say, next time you feel anxious, just hold this teddy bear tight.
[Speaker 2]
Right.
[Speaker 1]
We just hand them out as they come in. What should we do? Are we making fun of it?
What are we doing?
[Speaker 2]
Well, I mean, I think in schools, too, they're doing that. You know, everybody needs to have a comfort teddy bear. And I see it even in the workplace, you know, people, you're not supposed to offend them or tell them, call them out on things that they're doing wrong because they're not used to having themselves exposed to the truth in our society.
So, you know, they'd rather have that teddy bear comfort. You know, I need to take time out. I need to time out so I can feel better about myself instead of hearing what the correction that is needed and make an adjustment and then go down the right way.
[Speaker 1]
Past generations, your parents, grandparents, my grandma wouldn't tolerate at all any kind of whining or complaining.
[Speaker 2]
Right.
[Speaker 1]
Negativity.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah.
[Speaker 1]
The message from my family would be, it's time to grow up, Rick. How old are you? So here you have adults, adults acting like children.
[Speaker 2]
Oh, I know.
[Speaker 1]
Obsessed with themselves, obsessed. And all these maladies, all these sicknesses and all this victimization and entitlement. And that's the problem.
[Speaker 2]
My parents.
[Speaker 1]
Problem self.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah.
[Speaker 1]
And Jesus said, if any man come after me, let him deny himself and take his cross up daily and follow me. The problem is self. The false prophets built a self through the senses.
[Speaker 2]
Yes. Yes.
[Speaker 1]
There you go. Touchy feely. The ears, the eyes.
The appeal is not to the spirit. It's on the human level, the human plane. It's a therapy.
It's a pseudo, you know, theology. It's not true theology. It's not getting to know God.
It's a search of self. I want to get to know myself. And I just don't love myself enough.
Everything's self.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah. Well, there was a lot of years. I remember Oprah on TV just teaching the whole country, you know, or the world, maybe.
[Speaker 1]
Yeah.
[Speaker 2]
Of how self is so important, you know, that we need to, to not, not abuse ourselves or let anybody abuse you. And, and it was all about self. It's time to grow up.
Time to grow up. And now, you know, people, people love that. They were very excited about that whole way of thinking.
And, and then that leads to a lot of the counselors using Freud and all their philosophies of how to, how to get into your, tap into your real self, you know, so that you can be more than who you are or whatever, however they play it out. But I know a lot of friends of mine who were very addicted to counselors and just wanted to tell their story because they had to say it over and over again and couldn't get enough. Couldn't get enough.
Right. When it never fixed them and never helped them as far as, you know, you need to deny yourself and take up his cross and follow him instead of looking always within.
[Speaker 1]
But what I like is in first Peter, because the guys try to act like, you know, they found some new knowledge, something new that Jesus didn't know.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah.
[Speaker 1]
Peter, let's see. Is it first Peter? Let's see here.
I think it's first Peter 1 verse 7 or second Peter 1 verse 7. No. No, second Peter.
He's given us everything we need for life and godliness. Here it is. Verse 3 of second Peter 1 verse 3.
According as his divine power has given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness. How? Through the knowledge of him that has called us to glory and virtue, by which are given unto us exceedingly great and precious promises that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
And so as he continues going, it's talking about growth, talking about growing in the grace of knowledge. And so the problem is, is that people that don't read the Bible, people that are not taught the Bible, they need something. And so what the false prophets do is they present a different Jesus, a different spirit, and a different gospel.
[Speaker 2]
A different gospel.
[Speaker 1]
And Paul said in 2 Corinthians 11, I'm jealous of you with a godly jealousy because I have a spouse, one husband, even Christ. But I fear, lest as the serpent beguiled Eve, so too the false prophets would seduce you and present to you a different Jesus, a different gospel, a different spirit. So don't tolerate that.
So what happens is in the churches, these guys, these false prophets of today, they don't use the word of God to minister to the person. They use self-help, feel-good messages that are a part of humanism, an existential humanistic where man's at the center. And it's rooted in what we call today the science of human behavior, psychology, psychotherapy.
And so not just through talks, but also medications. We're identifying aberrant behavior as a disease now. It's not sin.
It's a disease. So now we've got a pill for that rage of anger you have, which the Bible says if you're angry with your brother, you're already a murderer. So they've taken the simplicity of the gospel, the simplicity of what God's saying.
The problem is man. Man has fallen in nature. And God's solution for man is not to rehab man, not to make him a better sinner, not to put him through any steps to make you a better person.
His solution is death. You've got to die. And then I'm going to make a new you.
You've got to be born again. So when you're born again, now it's not just body and soul. The soul is the seed of the mind, the will, the emotions.
Now it's body, soul, and spirit. Now you have a connection with God. Now he can help you forgetting those things that are what you're behind and pressing forth those things that are before.
If any man be in Christ, in Christ, he's a new creation.
[Speaker 2]
Old things.
[Speaker 1]
See, the obsession with the old things.
[Speaker 2]
I'm sorry.
[Speaker 1]
You didn't just do that, did you? Oh, so call her. We can answer that question.
We've got a question for us.
[Speaker 2]
I forgot.
[Speaker 1]
I was going to put on that. 45 minutes? The person's with the therapist's help trying to find the root of the problem.
And they're saying, tell me about your mom.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah.
[Speaker 1]
Tell me about your dad.
[Speaker 2]
Tell me about your childhood.
[Speaker 1]
So then we come to the place of the job of the therapist is to remove the guilt. It's not your fault. Somehow we've got to take guilt, which comes from being sinners.
And the way guilt's removed for the Christian is the cross.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah, right.
[Speaker 1]
Jesus died for my sins, and he set me free. But for a person that doesn't have that truth in their heart, doesn't look at their life in that way, for them, they're still trying to be good enough. They're still trying to make up for things.
If they have any hang-ups, and they talk to the therapist, and the therapist takes them through, now we're going to play what's called the, and you said it early, the blame game. So if I'm Adam, and I'm confronted by God with my guilt, my sin, I'm going to blame the woman. It's the woman you gave me.
And then if I'm the woman, and I'm not, but if I were, I know who I am, I'm going to blame the serpent. I'm going to blame the devil. I won't take ownership or responsibility for my own actions, right?
But for the Christian, we take ownership. We take responsibility for our actions, and we lay them at the foot of the cross. And so for us, if any man be in Christ, he's a new creation.
The old things are passed away. All things have become new. Now, God gives me the capacity to not be a victim, but to forgive those who abuse me.
I'm set free. I'm set free because now I have the capacity to not be their dog on a leash the rest of my life, their victim. Never able to quit thinking about how I was victimized.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah, through unforgiveness.
[Speaker 1]
Instead, I see my own wretchedness, my own unworthiness, and that Jesus chose me to be his child, right?
[Speaker 2]
A humble heart.
[Speaker 1]
Why would you choose me, you know? Now, it's like those things pale in comparison to his love for me.
[Speaker 2]
Right.
[Speaker 1]
You see what I mean? But that's only if you understand who you are in Christ, and you're spending time in this word. So the word of God sets me free.
Jesus said, if you continue in my word, then are you my disciples indeed, and you'll know the truth, and the truth will set you free, right?
[Speaker 2]
Amen. I thought I was reading Titus. Where in Titus, I was reading where Paul was talking in Titus 1 about—this is so amazing.
You know, we're such—you know, like we were talking about the psychology of our society and breaking down the be nice to everybody, don't offend anybody. But in Titus 1.10, where he's talking about, for there are many rebellious people full of meaningless talk and deception, especially those of the circumcision group. They must be silenced because they are disrupting whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach.
And that for the sake of dishonest gain. Once the Cretans owned prophets, he said it. Cretans are always liars, evil brutes, lazy gluttons.
This saying is true. Therefore, rebuke them sharply so they will be sound in the faith and will pay no attention to Jewish myths or to the merely human commands of those who reject the truth. To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure.
In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted. They claim to know God, but by their actions, they deny him. They are detestable, disobedient, and unfit for doing anything good.
Well, wait a second. That's not very nice, right? That's not very nice.
None of those words are very nice. They're not loving. But it's the truth, right?
[Speaker 1]
The Cretans. The Cretans. You're a Cretan.
[Speaker 2]
You're a Cretan.
[Speaker 1]
And he says, and it's true.
[Speaker 2]
And it's true.
[Speaker 1]
Their own philosopher says the Cretans are lazy gluttons, you know? And it's true. I love that.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah, I was reading that. It's true. And I was like, hold on.
Oh, you hurt my feelings. But, you know, as we're talking about prophets and false prophets and, but there's so many that are way off base. They're not doing, they're not proclaiming God's word.
[Speaker 1]
So he's identifying these guys, the circumcision. So they're holding people to that letter of the law. So they corrupt the gospel and the salvations by grace through faith alone.
They come along and they say, well, that's fine. But now you've got to keep the law.
[Speaker 2]
We need some work.
[Speaker 1]
So the letter of the law kills the spirit, gives life. So identifies them in that way. He also identifies the false prophet by being greedy.
He's doing it for filthy lucre sake. Yep, for gain. Money is the key ingredient to identify a false prophet today.
[Speaker 2]
Right.
[Speaker 1]
And there's a lot of those. Stop talking about money. I don't go to other churches, but I'm told every service is spent telling them their needs.
It could be even good needs, but it's one infomercial after the other, trying to get money out of people. Always money, money, money, money. And Peter says this in second Peter.
He says, but there were false prophets. Chapter two. Also among the people, even there shall be false teachers among you who secretly shall bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
And many shall follow their pernicious ways by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And notice it says, and through covetousness shall they with feigned, which is deceptive words, make merchandise of you, whose judgment now for a long time lingers not and their destruction slumbers not. For if God spared not the angels that sin cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness to be reserved unto judgment and spared not the old world, you know, he's saying he's going through and he's saying eventually they're going to be judged too.
This is what God does with the false prophets.
[Speaker 2]
Yes.
[Speaker 1]
And so just because they haven't been judged yet.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah, doesn't mean they're not.
[Speaker 1]
But if you want an identifier, if I go into a church, I want to know freely we've received, freely we give, you know, what is it that they're after? What is it they're doing here? So I look at the job description of a pastor is to feed the sheep, not fleece the sheep.
[Speaker 2]
Right.
[Speaker 1]
I want to feed them. What's the food? It's not psychology.
It's the word of God.
[Speaker 2]
The word of God.
[Speaker 1]
And Jesus said, greater love has no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends in John 15. Jesus differentiated between the true shepherd and a false shepherd in John 10. A hireling, as soon as it's tough or difficult, he bails.
He takes off.
[Speaker 2]
Exactly.
[Speaker 1]
But the shepherd is willing to sacrifice, suffer, need be.
[Speaker 2]
He lays across that sheep gate, that gate that keeps the sheep in there safe and secure. If he's a hireling, as soon as that wolf comes, he's up and out.
[Speaker 1]
Soon as there's any difficulty, they take their resume. They say, I'm out of here. They look for a church that will pay them more.
[Speaker 2]
Right.
[Speaker 1]
And it's a celebrity. It's a Christian celebrity mentality. And it's to be served, not to serve.
And it's covetousness. It's making merchandise. So many of the pastors today, when they go to so-called training, they take marketing classes.
[Speaker 2]
Absolutely.
[Speaker 1]
And one of my friends told me it's like multi-level marketing, where they get other people involved, and then it's extending out, and they get a piece of the pie with each different level. And it's just sickening. It's just sickening.
But the people continue to, let's look at some of the huge churches, the Joel Olsteen's and these guys, and Benny Hinsnell. I mean, they're on television constantly making appeals for money. Yeah.
[Speaker 2]
Because if you don't give, you won't gain. The formula behind it is, if you give, God will give back. So you can't negate your giving because you want to gain.
[Speaker 1]
How'd that work for Jesus? How'd that work for the apostles? Jesus was homeless.
Oh, I guess he didn't give enough, right?
[Speaker 2]
Yeah, he didn't take the marketing class. And I know for sure that a lot of the churches will look at a pastor who is not involved in marketing, that you are dropping the ball in your ministry. You are not doing the right thing.
Because if you're not marketing, you're not reaching enough people. If you're not learning the marketing skills needed for ministry, are you truly in ministry?
[Speaker 1]
Well, Jesus spoke more about money, one of the greatest topics he spoke of. But where you treasure is there where your heart be also. God wants your heart, and he loves a cheerful giver.
But the emphasis is not how much. It's not—he took the widow and her mite, her little mites that she had, and he brought attention to what she gave in contrast to the religious leaders and their enormous amounts of money that they put into the offering.
[Speaker 2]
And it makes all that noise and attention.
[Speaker 1]
And everybody looks, you get attention under them. But heaven measures our gifts, what it costs us, not the amount. So when we give, don't let your left hand know what your right hand is doing.
You do it secretly. And you do it as unto the Lord. It's an act of worship.
And so we don't want to cheapen this worship of the Lord by making God out to be broke, and he can't build his church. His church is not a business. There are business aspects.
There's bills to be paid and all that. But it's not Church Inc., and we're going to run this as a business with the objective to build profits, nickels and noses, and make it successful in the world's eyes. Jesus said that which is highly esteemed among men is an abomination unto God.
You can't serve God money.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah.
[Speaker 1]
It's one or the other.
[Speaker 2]
That's it.
[Speaker 1]
So it's really a situation where you're denying people the sweetness of worship, because now it becomes a bad taste in your mouth. Of you want so many people, the unbelievers that we try to witness and minister unto, they don't want to go near church because they smell it. They see it.
[Speaker 2]
All they want is your money. All you want is the money.
[Speaker 1]
All you want is the money. So Jesus paid it all. It is finished.
He paid it in full. So we walk by faith and trust the Lord. So we're not treating this as a means of building our empire, building our business.
Yes. But that's what the false prophets do. The false prophets are about self.
So anyway, one of the best ways to recognize a false prophet is an inordinate effort or emphasis upon money.
[Speaker 2]
I've heard over and over again in certain churches that I've gone to in the past that that they have to, well, what they say is the main pastor would say, we must have 100% participation in this commitment, this financial commitment. A hundred percent, not one. If you walk in that door, just to visit even, we need a hundred percent.
So they're really, really putting on the pressure. And then if you stay, you are committed to that hundred percent participation in whatever goal, financial goal of building a stockpile of money that they need or they think they want. I heard it just recently as I was cruising around to see what other ministries are teaching in our community.
And I was like, there it is again. A hundred percent. Need a hundred percent participation.
There's no negating it.
[Speaker 1]
That's how they phrase it.
[Speaker 2]
Oh, yeah. A hundred percent.
[Speaker 1]
Well, it breaks my heart because it keeps a lot of people out of the kingdom. And I've gone broke before as a pastor and trying to get buildings and build the church and get all the amenities that people need. And in that crucible, in that trial, I still could not degrade or diminish worshiping Jesus by getting up in front of people and begging for money, making God out to be poor.
We prayed and we asked the Lord to provide. And he wound up not providing and we lost everything. So that would be a huge point that these false prophets would make.
Well, see, he lost everything. He needed to emphasize money more. He needed to put more emphasis upon getting money a hundred percent out of these people.
Well, I'm wanting to trust in the Holy Spirit. And if the Holy Spirit is moving to work in the hearts of God's people, they'll give. They'll want to give.
If they don't want to give, the Holy Spirit doesn't want their money. God doesn't want a grumpy giver. He wants a hilarious, a cheerful giver, right?
So giving needs to be from the heart or it's not worth anything if it's out of guilt.
[Speaker 2]
It's not worship.
[Speaker 1]
He loves a cheerful giver. It's not worship. So we cut it off there.
We don't want to degrade the beauty of people come in and freely worshiping the Lord. I made mistakes in that way. In hindsight, I would just wait upon the Lord.
If a church needs a building, then they're going to have to want it.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah, exactly.
[Speaker 1]
And so you wait till the... But I just can't... My pastor, he never spent time asking for money.
We received an offering. That was it. It was over.
A building project or anything going on? No. Just teach him the word.
Love on him.
[Speaker 2]
And then the Lord provided for whatever was needed.
[Speaker 1]
Or you hold back or you just do without the things that you think you got to have. You do without and you bring the word of God out to him.
[Speaker 2]
I grew up in the Pentecostal movement and it was very much the prosperity gospel. So that was like second nature. Always being taught over and over again is to give so that you can get.
It was very much a part of the so-called gospel that was delivered, the message that was delivered. So it's wonderful to actually know what the Bible says and not that he desires a cheerful giver. And of course, they would emphasize you need to be a cheerful giver while you're giving because you better be cheerful because you're going to get.
[Speaker 1]
They know all the stops, don't they? Every verse, the whole thing. But I just wanted to teach the word, feed the sheep.
Jesus said to Peter, do you let me feed my sheep? Just feed them the word of God.
[Speaker 2]
So now we've talked about Old Testament prophets and so 27% of the Bible is prophecy. So what in the Old Testament that was prophesied has come true? What have we seen up to right now that actually have played out that we can say God said this was going to happen and we see it right before our eyes?
[Speaker 1]
Okay, so in the book of beginnings in Genesis, Genesis 3, 15, Adam and Eve sinned, they fell and they're leaving the garden in coats of skins and they couldn't cover their sin by being religious with fig leaves, right? So they are leaving the garden and God sends an angel to guard them, to keep them from getting to the tree of life, lest they live in their sin forever, right?
[Speaker 2]
Yep, that sword, angels there.
[Speaker 1]
And they're playing the blame game and they're blaming the serpent, this, that, and the other. So God gives a prophecy in Genesis 3, 15 that the seed of the woman, and the woman doesn't have the seed. So speaking of the virgin born son of God, the seed of the woman, that her, his heel, the seed of the woman, his heel would be bruised, but that he would crush the serpent's head.
So right there in Genesis 3, 15, God is describing, prophesying of the Messiah. That the Messiah would be a man, not an angel. That it'd be the seed of the woman, the virgin born son of God.
So then we take that and that he would be, his heel would be bruised, he'd be crucified, but he'd raise himself from the dead and crush the serpent's head, right?
[Speaker 2]
Yep.
[Speaker 1]
Now we go to Isaiah, written 700 years before Christ is, you know, born. And Isaiah 7, 14 says, the virgin shall conceive and bring forth a son, and his name shall be called Emmanuel. Isaiah 7, 14, right?
Isaiah 9, verse 6, unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given, and the government shall be upon his shoulder, right? His name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace, and of his peace and government, there shall be no end, right?
[Speaker 2]
Yep.
[Speaker 1]
So that's 700 years before Jesus is born and he's letting us know that back at Genesis 3, 15, that he intends to fulfill this.
[Speaker 2]
Yep, he's coming.
[Speaker 1]
In the New Testament, we celebrate Christmas, right?
[Speaker 2]
Yeah.
[Speaker 1]
We see Mary and Joseph and Mary, the virgin-born son of God. Mary hasn't had any relationship with Joseph. And the Immaculate Conception, right?
[Speaker 2]
Yep, virgin birth.
[Speaker 1]
And that's the Son of Man, that's Jesus, that's the promised Messiah, way back from Genesis, the book of beginnings, fulfilled in his first coming. And then we say, well, you know, we ask the question where Herod asked the prophets, the wise men from Babylon came and said, hey, we want to see the King of the Jews. We saw his star.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah.
[Speaker 1]
So how did, all the way in Babylon, these guys know of the King of the Jews? That's when Daniel was there.
[Speaker 2]
Right.
[Speaker 1]
He was telling them. He shucked in a bed to go, right?
[Speaker 2]
Interesting, huh?
[Speaker 1]
So then Herod doesn't know the Bible. I do man, he's not a real Jew, but he's Herod the Great, he's the king. And the Jews, you know, don't like him.
And so the prophets, the religious leaders tell him, you know, well, Bethlehem, house of bread, Micah 5, verse 2.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah, they reached back into the Old Testament.
[Speaker 1]
500 years before God let them know where he was going to be born. So in the year that Caesars Augustus, right, we're told he put a tax out there. The most powerful leader upon the planet brings an edict of a tax that every person needs to go to their hometown to be taxed, right?
Imagine that. God's moving the heart of the king to fulfill his prophecy.
[Speaker 2]
And he had no clue.
[Speaker 1]
And Mary and Joseph are going to go 80 miles with his wife. Pregnant. Great with child, right?
And there's no place for them, you know, whatever in the house of bread, the house of Bethlehem. And so we see that he's born, you know, in Bethlehem. And then we look at his lineage in Matthew chapter 1 and Luke 3.
We have a record of his birth lineage. And so we see the royal line that comes through his stepfather, you know, Joseph in Matthew's account. And then we see the account of all the way back to Adam, you know, through Mary.
And there's a curse upon the line of Jeconiah or Coniah. And so we see it goes from Solomon to Nathan rather than through Jeconiah. So we have the lineage of Jesus.
The temple, when it caught fire in 70 AD, destroyed all of the records lineage. But we have the New Testament preserving the lineage that any Jew, anybody could take and look at this lineage and go all the way back that he would be from the tribe of Judah, right? In Genesis 39, right?
In the tribe of Judah. And so the kingly tribe. And then what house would he come out of?
So we see Ruth and Boaz and Boaz begets Obed and Obed, Jesse, and then Jesse, David. Jesus is the root and the offspring of David, right? The Davidic line and the promise, the Davidic dynasty.
David, I'll build you a house. So the Messiah is going to be from David's household, right? The kingly tribe, right?
And so we see that in Matthew's account. So we know what tribe, we know what family, we know that he's a man. In Hebrew says that he was made a little bit lower than the angels.
And so he's the son of man. Eighty-one times he calls himself the son of man and the ancient of days in Daniel 7. And so we look at that and we say, all right, how would he die?
A thousand years before he's going to die, we see in Psalm 22, a description of what he even says upon the cross. 700 years before he dies, we see that in Isaiah 50, that his beard would be pulled out. We see there'd be deep furrows in his back.
We see in Isaiah 52 and 53, another description of the cross, you know, intercession on behalf of the two thieves and his being beaten beyond the recognition of a man.
[Speaker 2]
And that spoke about in Isaiah.
[Speaker 1]
That's in Isaiah chapter 50 and then 52, 53. And what else? He said, the wicked and adulterous generation seeks after a sign.
The only sign that's going to be given is the sign of the prophet Jonah. Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a great fish, shall the son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. So he's authenticating the book of Jonah.
He's also saying, destroy this temple in three days, I'll raise it up. Right?
[Speaker 2]
Yeah.
[Speaker 1]
So he's prophesying right there and letting them know.
[Speaker 2]
That he's going to rise again on the third day.
[Speaker 1]
Yeah. And that's the proof. That's the proof.
And so.
[Speaker 2]
And sure enough, he did.
[Speaker 1]
And sure enough, he did. He's raising Lazarus from the dead in John 11. And then he's describing himself as, I am the resurrection and the life.
And then he proves it, you know. So over 300 prophecies, Philip Stoner said, computed over 300 prophecies were fulfilled in this first coming. And Peter says, in second Peter, he said, second Peter, verse 15 of chapter one, he says, moreover, and I will endeavor that we may be able after my deceased to have these things always in remembrance.
So we're proving Christ that he's the one number one through eyewitness testimony. He says, for we have not followed cunningly devised fables when we made known unto you the power and the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. So from a standpoint of apologetics, how do we know that Jesus is the right person in a courtroom of law?
It would be based upon the eyewitness testimony of at least two people.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah.
[Speaker 1]
First Corinthians 15 says he was seen of over 500 at one time in his resurrected body. Right. Still bearing the scars.
Peter saw him on the Mount of Transfiguration. He goes on to describe that for he received from God, the father, honor and glory. When there came a voice to him, Matthew 17, from the excellent glory.
This is my beloved son and whom I'm well pleased in this whole voice, which came from heaven. We heard when we were with him in the Holy Mount. So here you have the disciples testifying that we saw him in his glory and his clothes were brighter than any fuller could make brighter, you know, in the shrine of glory.
And that testimony is such as so powerful in their lives that they're now willing to go die as martyrs.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah, exactly.
[Speaker 1]
If it was false, they wouldn't be willing to die because they knew it to be true. They didn't fear death.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah.
[Speaker 1]
And so it connected all the dots and authenticated it made it made it true that nobody's willing to go to martyrdom for a known lie.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah.
[Speaker 1]
A lot of people are martyred for a lie. They think they're going to have 70 virgins waiting for him.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah.
[Speaker 1]
But if you know, if you have the body and you buried it, you'd be unwilling to go die for him.
[Speaker 2]
Exactly.
[Speaker 1]
But if you know that he transfigured and that later he was crucified, buried, raised himself from the dead and seen of you for 40 days, you're emboldened because you don't fear death anymore.
[Speaker 2]
Right.
[Speaker 1]
So that's the number one or that's one of the proof texts, the proofs that he's the Messiah, that he's the Christ, that he's God, that the Bible is true. The second one, the second proof text, he says here, he says, we have also, in addition to our eyewitness testimony, a more sure word of prophecy.
[Speaker 2]
Exactly.
[Speaker 1]
So prophecy is a greater proof than even eyewitness testimony.
[Speaker 2]
Wow.
[Speaker 1]
It's a greater proof.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah, because you're foretelling what's going to happen and then it happens.
[Speaker 1]
Well, it's only God could do that.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah.
[Speaker 1]
Only God could tell you what's going to happen before it happens with 100% accuracy. So Philip Stoner illustrated it this way. If one person came along and fulfilled just eight of those 300 prophecies, the compound probability mathematically for one person to fill eight, and we went through a few of them, right?
[Speaker 2]
Yeah.
[Speaker 1]
To fulfill eight would be 10 to the 17th power. So then he illustrates 10 to the 17th power as putting the state of Texas, or everybody that's afraid of the blue states are moving, right? You fill the state of Texas, which is big, two and a half feet of silver dollars.
The whole, you take one silver dollar and you market and you put it somewhere in the state of Texas. You blindfold somebody, spin them around, pin the tail on the donkey, put them in the state of Texas. The compound probability of a person going in there and reach down and grabbing that one mark is 10 to the 17th power.
And that's just eight. 27% of the Bible's prophecy.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah.
[Speaker 1]
Over 300 prophecies he fulfilled, right? So why wouldn't we want to be students of prophecy, right? And he says, we have the more sure word of prophecy under which you do well that you take heed as unto a light that shines in a dark place.
So he's saying, Hey, you churches that only 2% of you teach prophecy. The other 98% you would do well to take heed as a light that shines. You're living in a dark time.
Your people have no hope. They don't have the hope of the blessed hope anymore. You've stolen it.
You've taken away the doctrine of the rapture. You've taken away the doctrine of the second coming. People have no hope as in the light that shines in a dark place until the day dawn and the day star rise in your heart.
When the light goes on, Jesus is risen in your heart, right? All of a sudden it clicks. Yeah, it clicks.
You know, knowing this first that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. So now he tells us how the transmission, how the prophecy came for the prophets. Prophecy came not at any time by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.
[Speaker 2]
Exactly.
[Speaker 1]
So and then he gives a contrast of the false prophets from chapter two there.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah.
[Speaker 1]
And so the holy men of God, as God inspired him, they wrote down what God was instructing them to write down.
[Speaker 2]
This is God.
[Speaker 1]
Yeah.
[Speaker 2]
His movement, his driving of the prophetic, the prophecies that are going to happen, the things that are going to happen. He's forewarning us ahead of time. So not just to let us know what's going to happen, but to prove that he is God.
[Speaker 1]
Testimony of Jesus, the spirit of prophecy.
[Speaker 2]
Exactly.
[Speaker 1]
Revelation is the apocalypse or the unveiling of Jesus Christ. The volume of the book is written of him. You see, so how could you not teach the book of Revelation?
How could you not teach? There's a blessing for just reading it.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah, awesome. I love that.
[Speaker 1]
And so we're students of prophecy. We're students of the Bible. We go from Genesis to Revelation and we're disciples.
He said, go and make disciples. Why would I negate and leave prophecy out?
[Speaker 2]
Yeah, it's not a wise choice. It's not a wise choice. And I don't know if it's because, well, maybe I do.
I've heard some pastors say that they don't understand it. That they're not good at it. They haven't studied it so that they don't feel equipped to teach it.
[Speaker 1]
Therein lies the problem.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah, yeah.
[Speaker 1]
We're instructed, Paul told Timothy, a young pastor, study to show yourself approved.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah.
[Speaker 1]
Unto God.
[Speaker 2]
So they're just not going there. They're not wanting to do it.
[Speaker 1]
They have no desire to study.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah.
[Speaker 1]
Teachers study.
[Speaker 2]
Exactly.
[Speaker 1]
The best way to know God is to study his word.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah.
[Speaker 1]
And as a Sunday school teacher, a home Bible study teacher, I've got to study 10 times more than I give out. So I'm getting to know the Lord far more than if I'm simply a student being taught. Yeah, just taking it in.
Yeah, all of us are teachers in one way or another. And so we have his word. It's his love letter unto us.
The way we get to know him is the study of his word. So why would I want to leave anything out?
[Speaker 2]
Yeah.
[Speaker 1]
There's just no way I would want to. What, I want to leave out the doctrine of the rapture? I want to leave out the nation of Israel?
[Speaker 2]
Yeah.
[Speaker 1]
I want to leave out the one world currency that's coming? Revelation 13. How do you teach a church that's watching the demise of the dollar and they're bringing in a currency that's a digital currency where everyone's going to have to receive a mark on the right hand of their forehead or a digital ID?
How do you leave that out? How do you act like that's not happening right before your eyes? How do you do that?
[Speaker 2]
It's irresponsible.
[Speaker 1]
It's mind-boggling. And mind-boggling. So where are you going to take them?
Where are you going to take them in your cognitive dissonance, in your denial of the truth? What is the content of your service? Where are you taking them?
What are you going to fill the hour with? Yeah. Oh, I know.
We're going to sing for 45 minutes and then we're going to make 20 minutes of appeals for money and then we're going to jump off at a verse and tell stories, fables, and doctrines of demons. Why would the people put up with that? Why?
[Speaker 2]
I don't know. Week after week after week. I don't know.
And being in a rested state of development. I was there.
[Speaker 1]
Mind-boggling to me. So I would say the Bible prophesied of this in that there would be an apostasy, which is a falling away from the truth, a departure from the truth is what we're watching, as Paul warned to Timothy and Titus.
[Speaker 2]
And in Revelation, talking about the Laodicean church.
[Speaker 1]
Yes.
[Speaker 2]
So that's where I want to continue in part two. I would like to dive into the prophecies that are in Revelation. And really look at each one, maybe start with Laodicea and do an examination of where we're at compared to the church of Laodicea and examine what is coming that hasn't been played out yet and what is what does Jesus say about the end times and really go into the book of Revelation and reach to Daniel and the different prophets of the Old Testament that speak to the book of Revelation so we can have a clean picture of what's going to be happening in this world because there's quite a bit that's going to be going on that hasn't happened yet.
[Speaker 1]
It's being fulfilled.
[Speaker 2]
Yeah. So thank you for letting us dive into really kind of understanding what the Old Testament prophets were about and what they gave us as far as prophecies of Jesus that they have already been fulfilled. And then I really would like to go deep into the book of Revelation for the prophecies that we're looking as we watch it form, we're feeling it, we're seeing it unlike we've ever had.
We've never seen it like it is today in our world, in our generation, or in history like we see it now. And I want to see what God is saying is going to happen in our world today. And we have a lot going on as far as new things, even with Israel being bombed.
And I kind of want to touch base on that too. See, we can talk about what the hot topic is right now and see what the Bible tells us about that and maybe what spiritual discernment might be leading us towards. So I want to thank you so much for being a part of this first part of prophecy.
And we will continue in part two.
[Speaker 1]
Amen.
[Speaker 2]
And dive right into Revelation.
[Speaker 1]
Love it.
[Speaker 2]
So thank you so much.
[Speaker 1]
Thank you. Thanks for having me.
[Speaker 2]
Yes.