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S6 EP10 | With Broccoli Family's demands crystal clear for the franchise (unless Amazon just tosses all those out), the studio demands a pitch for a new Bond. What better time than now to bring in a villain with real-world methods?
Two screenwriters attempt to recreate, reimagine, or flat out fix, existing film franchises when 'the studio' demands...MORE FILMS! It's an exercise in creative thinking where they will challenge themselves to conceptualize, pitch, and craft a film based on the stipulations of a hypothetical Hollywood overlord. | Sixfive Media
Hello and welcome to the studio demands at an exercise in creative thinking where we will conceptualize, pitch, and craft a film or series based on the demands from one of you listeners acting as a hypothetical Hollywood overlord. Overlord. As professional screenwriters ourselves and massive cinephiles, we talk movies all the time.
Speaker 2:All the time.
Speaker 1:And we'd like to believe that we could meet any demand thrown at us. We will be your screenwriters for this episode. I am TC DeWitt, and joining me as always is Jim the Repeater Berzelik.
Speaker 2:Berzelik.
Speaker 1:Now now you would think you're named the repeater because you're just parodying things that I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:Actually, I dubbed you the repeater because I did something for the first time in a long I I think I might have done this in the past, maybe in season one.
Speaker 2:Alter your motive.
Speaker 1:I repeated one of your middle names.
Speaker 2:Oh, no.
Speaker 1:So we knew that in this is actually off a Jim suggestion here. In conjunction
Speaker 2:I was trying I was trying the the echo. Yeah. Just a little I was trying to do it, like, right on the tail of when you're doing it this time. I don't if that worked or if it was just, like, interrupting sounding if that that was it was probably bad. I should probably leave the beat in there or that half that half beat before I echo you.
Speaker 1:I I think it's okay. You'd like to change it up.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I tried I tried I tried different things.
Speaker 1:I forced you into doing this. When you go back to the history of the show,
Speaker 2:I forced you
Speaker 1:into doing this. But I see when I get
Speaker 2:to this part, then you say you say this.
Speaker 1:Do I will not But
Speaker 2:you but you had just said that. Yeah. But but then you also say it. But you just said it. I'm repeating.
Speaker 2:I know. But then it'll sound like like
Speaker 1:What's your middle name? Dammit. We were gonna so you had suggested yeah. I'm gonna get back on track.
Speaker 2:No. That's good.
Speaker 1:So Mission Impossible is coming out.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It
Speaker 1:is. And we in keywording, searching Mission Impossible, we actually didn't have any Mission Impossible demands. Oh. You had suggested Bond, that we look at James Bond, a different super spy Yeah. Series.
Speaker 1:So I did a keyword search for that. And knowing that we were going to do some Bond demand today Mhmm. And I have one up here. I have not I have not read it yet. So as always, we will be by the demand.
Speaker 1:Put it on the spot, Jim. We gotta do it right here now. But I went back and listened to our Spectre episode Okay. Just to be sure that we didn't cover ground we'd already covered And
Speaker 2:because in in that regard, technically, we have done James Bond.
Speaker 1:Yes. Yes. In that episode, I dubbed you or I I read your middle name as Jim Hopscotch Brazelic. The last episode we did was Thunderbolts, and I used scotch.
Speaker 2:Oh, did you?
Speaker 1:Uh-huh. Now we riffed completely differently off of it. When I heard that, I was like, and I have a record of 100 middle names, and I and I repeated one.
Speaker 2:You have them you have them recorded for pro posterity.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So it just surprised me that of all the random things I could have thrown.
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:That was the one I went to. And so and that it was the next episode we were going to do. Yeah. James Bond related. So very, very strange here.
Speaker 1:So so that's fun.
Speaker 2:It is fun.
Speaker 1:That is fun. Is fun. It's fun. It's fun. Yeah.
Speaker 1:So there you go. Repeater.
Speaker 2:Me.
Speaker 1:That's the whole thing. Do you wanna repeat anything else? Nope. Okay. Okay.
Speaker 1:Then we can just we could literally jump into the, yep. I think it's curious we didn't have any mission impossible demands.
Speaker 2:That is weird. That is that is a little strange.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I, like, I don't have the number in front of me right now, but I
Speaker 2:One could say that all of them are mission impossible.
Speaker 1:Like, every every demand we do seems impossible.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But we do it. Actually, I'm
Speaker 2:This would be a good time to to because we we did a commentary.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:We could drop we could drop the the the thing we came up with right here. Oh. One might say that this is a
Speaker 1:cinema
Speaker 2:impossible. You We're we're we're so proud of that.
Speaker 1:Proud of well, the the thing
Speaker 2:was saying it out loud and and being recorded, now I feel stupid.
Speaker 1:Oh, no. I think the stupid thing is we did it in unison. I mean, that's and that's on me because you were doing it. I didn't have to jump in there. Well, the what's weird is you would one of us said cinema impossible, and we're like, well, that's gotta be a podcast Yeah.
Speaker 1:Or a show Yeah. Or something. It's not.
Speaker 2:That yeah. That is what that is what surprised me.
Speaker 1:That that was
Speaker 2:the most thing around the world at all. Called cinema impossible.
Speaker 1:How is that not a thing? And then then we get to wondering, well, what would that show be? And Mhmm. We couldn't think of anything different than what we're already doing. Yeah.
Speaker 1:So if anyone has any suggestions out there for a show titled cinema impossible and what that could be, let us know.
Speaker 2:That that isn't ex really what we're already doing.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, don't don't just reskin the show and say do that. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because a good enough a title like that deserves that could be a cool show. But, yeah, it's
Speaker 2:Maybe it just is this show. Yeah. It's the you know you know how movies have have different names in other countries? Yes. That's the name of our podcast in another country.
Speaker 1:In in Japan, it's a our show's actually
Speaker 2:Actually called cinema impossible.
Speaker 1:I I I my other thought is when mystery science theater ended
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:Then it then they started rift tracks and cinematic titanic are the two, like spin offs of so maybe when the studio demands it ends, we just start a new series called Cinematic. Sure. And it's just the same thing. Yep. Or, like, top gear became grand tour.
Speaker 1:That's
Speaker 2:something. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Have currently in our spreadsheet 348 demands. That's how many demands people have sent to us that
Speaker 2:That that we haven't
Speaker 1:That we haven't
Speaker 2:shouldn't refer to it that way.
Speaker 1:That we haven't gotten to
Speaker 2:it yet. That's how that's how behind we are.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Well, it's amazing that the but doing a a a search, we didn't have any mission possible. So Mhmm. You would suggest James Bond, which brings us to today's demand. And it comes from where is it?
Speaker 1:Okay. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:Drum. Drum. Drum. Drum. Drum.
Speaker 2:Drum roll. Drum roll. Drum You're so good at that. I hear you. Drum roll.
Speaker 1:From Jack Wade. Jack Wade. I wonder if that's intentional. Okay. At JDB Studios.
Speaker 1:Okay. With a new James Bond movie certainly in the works, it's high time for a bold revitalization of the long running franchise. Taller. Given the consistent creative constraints imposed by the Broccoli family, Bond must be British, male, not a time traveler or superhero. Is that one of the demand?
Speaker 1:That's all.
Speaker 2:Makes sense.
Speaker 1:Not a time traveler or superhero, and absolutely no origin story reboots, etcetera. Your mission, if we choose to accept it Mission apologize. Is do a crossover. No. Your mission is to pitch the next James Bond film.
Speaker 1:Stick to the established rules of the franchise, but bring some fresh, surprising, and thrilling. Bring
Speaker 2:Yeah. It's making sense.
Speaker 1:Bring something bring something fresh, surprising, and thrilling that proves double o seven still has a license to dominate the box office. That it should've It should've killed the box office. Not not to edit your work here, Jack, but a license to kill at the box office. Okay. I mean, that's pretty simple.
Speaker 1:That I mean, as far as demands go, that's the the restraints are the literal studio saying this is what you can and cannot do with James Bond. So, thank you, Jack, for that. Jack Wade. Jack Wade. Funny enough.
Speaker 2:It's just Jack Wade.
Speaker 1:I joked here. It's just Jack Wade. Thanks, Jack. A Bond Mission Impossible crossover. You had pointed out that James Bond isn't a spy.
Speaker 1:You said he's he's an operator.
Speaker 2:There are different types of spies. Right? There there's the there's the kind of spies that embed in the foreign land or hostile territory or whatever as a local. And right there, they're they're the ones that are they were historians or or weirdly, a lot of historians, a lot of history teachers Yeah. Would be were spies in World War two.
Speaker 1:Very John Lucari, Tinker Tailored Soldier spy kind of stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah. That's that's what actual traditional spies are. But there's a type of spy called the operator, which is more of what James Bond is.
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:And and that's that's the type the it's that that type of spy.
Speaker 1:Very, very, like, here I am. I'm not hiding behind masks and some huge. I'm just Bond, James Bond. Yeah. I'm I'm I'm
Speaker 2:Oh, that came just talking about this gave me an idea for another movie. It would be it would be it wouldn't require a new James Bond. Mhmm. In fact, it might even work better looking at a previous James Bond. Craig we'll do Daniel Craig because he was the the the latest one.
Speaker 2:Mhmm. Do a movie. So I I think I read this on the Internet somewhere. The notion that because James Bond is so out in the open, he shows up, says his name Yeah. And is just very clearly who he is
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:That he is actually a distraction for real spies. So he goes in, dances with the the villain's wife Yeah. Shoots up a bunch of minions, runs around over here, blows things up. Meanwhile
Speaker 1:Cues a bunch of other
Speaker 2:spies doing stuff, and that would be the movie. Mhmm. So you see you see the back the the the back of James Bond just leave as our characters then enter the lab, and Q then tells them, okay. Your mission is gonna be to do this while he's in there doing all these things. Mhmm.
Speaker 2:You're gonna sneak through and take this and that or plant this and that.
Speaker 1:Yeah. The the actual spy craft.
Speaker 2:That would be that would be kind of an amazing movie.
Speaker 1:It's not a movie like a series, like, episode. Yeah. Very, leverage or NCI or CSI kinda, like, like, procedural. Yeah. Bonds out there doing this thing again.
Speaker 1:You never see the guy. Well, my my first thought just now as we we just literally just planned this seed in my head. Given the nature of of legacy sequels like Maverick and the oh, that's the only one. That's the one. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And it there's a precedent for this. What about bringing Pierce Brosnan back for one more?
Speaker 2:One more time.
Speaker 1:Pierce Brosnan was genuinely disappointed that he didn't get to do another one after Dining Day. Casino Royale was even being tossed around the gritty premise of it, and and Brasen was interested in getting back down to that that nitty gritty Mhmm. Bond, which is which is always what happens with Bond. As soon as they go too far, they strip it down to its simplest parts
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:And and and clean up. It happens within the runs of characters like Connery and Roger Moore, and it could've happened with with Pierce Brosnan. Now, certainly, he's a much older man now, but he's no less charming. Any any any desire to see something like that happen? Old man old man Bond.
Speaker 2:I love Pierce Brosnan. I wouldn't wanna make that our demand here. Mhmm. But that title, old man bond, could be could be good. I actually wouldn't and it wouldn't be what he what he would was initially asking for, what you're you're super proposing, but having him be m.
Speaker 1:Oh, have Pierce Brosnan play m. Yeah. Oh, that's fun. Yeah.
Speaker 2:So the way I wanna go into this demand and, actually, I I like the idea of doing that. I wanna go into this demand similar to George Miller and Mad Max. Okay. And here's what I mean by that. Perhaps I'm not familiar enough with exactly what George Miller has wanted, but what I know of it is it's not ever or at least he's never actually said if it is a continuous world.
Speaker 2:Like, I know there are people who have put up the claim that Tom Hardy's character is the feral child
Speaker 1:The dog boy from
Speaker 2:takes the name Mad Max and that it truly is Fury Road truly is a continuation. Mhmm. I've also heard the notion that, no. It's it's supposed to be more of a myth, and there is like, these the stories aren't truly connected
Speaker 1:These are the fire yeah. These are the fireside legends being told of Mad Max, and that's why it's different every time. I've heard
Speaker 2:that one too. Yeah. I prefer approaching James Bond that way. Like, we're gonna tell this we're gonna we're gonna tell this James Bond story. It's not about continuing continuity.
Speaker 2:Sometimes if we want to, it will. If we want to allude to previous things, we can. Mhmm. And essentially, what it's gonna be is it's gonna be a mess as far
Speaker 1:as Mhmm.
Speaker 2:The notion of canon goes.
Speaker 1:Well, it's always been a mess because Bond being married at the end of her on her majesty's secret service Mhmm. Did maintain a element of continuity. Sure. Roger Moore visits her grave
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:In the beginning of one of his movies. And so there's always been this loosey goosey continuity. I mean, there's a fourth wall break at beginning of On Her Majesty's Secret Service where George Lazenby gets beat up, and he looks to the camera and goes, this never happened to the last guy. And and that's cheeky, and it's fun. But the and then and then, of course, they they force continuity on us in the Daniel Craig ones.
Speaker 2:Because cinema had turned in such a fashion that suggested that's what audiences want.
Speaker 1:Sure. Sure. And if if I've said anything about James Bond is that Bond doesn't make trends. He chases trends.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And so to that end of not that that kind of lack of continuity, but having a cheeky Easter egg
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:Having Pierce Brosnan be m Yeah. Is is fun. It's a fun reference, and it leaves it up in the air. Like, is that actually Bond having retired and and ranked up?
Speaker 1:I like that.
Speaker 2:Or or is what does this mean?
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:We won't answer that. It's just a fun thing to have in there.
Speaker 1:And and evoking George Miller to do such a thing is great. That's that is
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 1:Proper.
Speaker 2:Perfect. Yeah. But I think the let let's kinda
Speaker 1:Oh, god. I just thought of a Bond girl name.
Speaker 2:Go go for it.
Speaker 1:Bangs proper.
Speaker 2:Alright.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And she has, a bowl cut haircut? No. No. Because she has bangs.
Speaker 2:Oh, crap.
Speaker 1:She has bangs.
Speaker 2:I was gonna say that's that's that doesn't work, but actually, you can you can make that work.
Speaker 1:Bangs, proper.
Speaker 2:Not not you. Like, one one could make that work.
Speaker 1:If we're going classic, like, Connery Arabot, like
Speaker 2:I don't know if anyway, well, here's what I wanted to do.
Speaker 1:Throw it. Thank you for letting know.
Speaker 2:That's okay. We we can we might even do that. I wanted to go over like, we we have our demands of what we're not supposed to do. Mhmm. But I wanna talk about what James Bond is because when we tried to do this last time and it never made it to anyone's ears, We had we struggled because I think we weren't we couldn't decide what bond was and how we wanted to change it and or update it.
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:I think the the the key to Bond let let's let's talk about what the key to Bond is.
Speaker 1:Sure.
Speaker 2:Sure. I think the key to Bond is he is a power he's an escapist power fantasy.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:He is a super spy who kills the bad guy and sleeps with the bad guy's girl. He is as he is as seductive as he is killer.
Speaker 1:Mhmm. Also, Bond is static. He is not a character that evolves or changes. Barely.
Speaker 2:Yes. I I don't think it's impossible. I don't think that's a rule, and I don't think that's that's a part of the allure or attract attraction to the character. Right. So, yes, to your point,
Speaker 1:he's a power he's a male power fantasy.
Speaker 2:Yeah. But that that's not that's not a hard rule to the the the the power fantasy Mhmm. But it is it is commonly seen where it's not the character that changes, it's the world that is changed by the character.
Speaker 1:Right. Right. That's it. Indiana Jones is similar, and that's because Indiana Jones was created as the desired true James Bond.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Oh, that actually, that's true. That's that's an interesting factoid. I did not know.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Spielberg wanted to direct a James Bond movie but couldn't Oh. Because the broccoli said no. And so he in his desire to want to do James Bond, George Lucas came to him and said, I have an idea, and pitched Indiana Jones as an opportunity to do the globetrotting punch seduce women
Speaker 2:Nice.
Speaker 1:Hero. And, also, the dream come true of James Bond literally being the father of Indiana Jones. Yeah. So there. Well, tangential trivia there for you, folks.
Speaker 1:Male power fantasy.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So and and the thing is, I think approaching it from that, I think we can I think we can craft a bond that isn't necessarily toxic and gross? Because ultimately, that was what torpedoed the last episode that we were too embarrassed to release. Well And and it's not that we were like, oh, yeah, and he gets totally gross. It's that we couldn't it was like, no.
Speaker 2:It was but but Bond is gross. How do we how how can we change it? And every time it's like, but now we're changing him too much.
Speaker 1:Well, let's look at the Broccoli's requirements.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 1:Now to be fair, I don't know. I I didn't mark down when this demand was sent in. Amazon the Broccoli's have finally sold James Bond. The Broccoli's no longer own James Bond. That is crazy.
Speaker 1:Yes. Because they've sold it to Amazon. Jeff Jeff Bezos, first thing he tweets is, hey, people. Who do you think should be the next James Bond?
Speaker 2:I think it should be a a super powered time traveler.
Speaker 1:Yeah. But then that begs the question of will they stick to these standards? Let's work the assumption that we will maintain the policy standards. Also, Aaron Taylor Johnson and Henry Cavill. There you go.
Speaker 1:So one, Bond is not an antihero. He is a hero. Yes. Okay. That's number one.
Speaker 1:Number two, there's the elements such as the gun barrel sequence, the signature drink, the Aston Martin, the theme music, the gadgets, exotic locations, and a Bond girl slash Bond woman.
Speaker 2:I think I think these are these are fun iconographic elements Mhmm. That I I don't plan on violating or or leaving out. But it it's feeling not superfluous. It it, like, it's feeling like a distraction. Well Like, imagine having all of these things, but none of the other but none of the spirit of James Bond.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Oh, certainly. Kingsman. Sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Now one would argue Kingsman is playing up the r rated version of the Raj Moore era, blah blah blah. I'm just listing what's what's listed under the Broccoli's demands, and we can Yeah. Choose to ignore them because, yes, we're gonna have a gun barrel sequence. Yes. We're gonna have the theme song.
Speaker 1:Those are, yeah, superfluous. We don't need to discuss how the Aston Martin's gonna work its way a series that by the way, what is James Bond's drink of choice, Jim?
Speaker 2:Dos Equis. It
Speaker 1:is
Speaker 2:Martini, shaken not stirred.
Speaker 1:What kind of Martini? I don't remember. Oh, vodka martini
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1:Shaken not stirred. Yeah. Specifically, vodka martini, shaken not stirred, which was coined in and popularized by the first James Bond movie when Smirnoff came to the Broccleys and said, we will give you money to make a drink based on our vodka, not gin.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And so the vodka martini that James Bond drank, his signature drink was product placement from the beginning.
Speaker 2:His his watch his watch's product placement. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's it's started as I think it started as Rolex.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then Rolex, like, didn't wanna sponsor it or wanted them to remove it or something like that, and they switched it.
Speaker 1:Swatch watch. Yep. Yeah. So he can
Speaker 2:Swap him out like a spy.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Anyway, I just think that's fascinating, the the product placement. He did drink Heineken recently. Yeah. He's British and must reflect British values.
Speaker 1:Violence must be stylish, not gratuitous gory. Sex appeal without graphic sexual content. Villains must be grand and thematically rich. Petty criminals and small time crooks are not big enough for James Bond. So, you know, main villain
Speaker 2:can't Well, yeah. Why would m I six
Speaker 1:I know. I can't I'm just reading the I'm just reading the demands.
Speaker 2:Oh, there's a there's a back alley gang of street racers stealing DVD players. Bond, we need you on the
Speaker 1:Oh my god. James Bond versus the the Toretto family? Yes. Oh my god. Vin Diesel wants that.
Speaker 2:I know he does.
Speaker 1:And and didn't didn't someone who directed a fast and the furious also direct a Bond movie?
Speaker 2:I that I don't know.
Speaker 1:Who did the Carrie Fu Koyama did the no time to die? And am I remembering correctly? Didn't he do fast no? No. Was Geff Gary Gray.
Speaker 1:Never mind. I'm off the talk here. Tone must be must balance glamour and seriousness. Bond must never be self loathing. He can struggle emotionally.
Speaker 1:He can question his job, but he must fundamentally believe in the importance of his mission. Sure. Protect the mythos. No full parody, no full deconstruction, and James Bond will always be about legacy. It is not just a film.
Speaker 1:There you go. Those are the those are the broccolis. Now keeping the core of bond
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And understand that he seduces women. Fine. We with that, we're not gonna make him gross. Whatever. We agree to that.
Speaker 1:With all that in mind, did I did I throw you off at all by reading that off?
Speaker 2:I just don't under really understand what that last one means.
Speaker 1:Bond is a that's a legacy. Let's honor the legacy. They sold it they sold it to Amazon.
Speaker 2:Like, is is is the notion of that like like like, was that just a keep your chin up kind of demand? Like, this is about, like like, you're joining a legacy here. Keep that in mind
Speaker 1:kind of thing. Maybe maybe that's what it means. I let me see if I I don't know if there's any, like, elaboration to it. Protein. Broccolis.
Speaker 1:Okay. Here we go. We are we are continuing our legacy with this with this franchise. We are extremely cautious about casting and tone to protect Bond's long term appeal. It sorta sounds like we're too chicken shit to cast someone who isn't a white man.
Speaker 1:That's what it really sounds like.
Speaker 2:It it sounds like a catch all for for anything else they want to include in in that.
Speaker 1:We will take years between films when necessary because we will never rush to meet pressure if we think it will damage the brand.
Speaker 2:Cool.
Speaker 1:There you go. It does seem a little self important. Mhmm. So I Okay. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay. So keeping all that in mind, do you have any points of attack here? Something's come to mind other than other than bangs proper.
Speaker 2:The I we it this actually came up in a conversation, I think, a couple weeks ago, and I think the key for a bond is the bad guy.
Speaker 1:% agree.
Speaker 2:It really % agree. It seems it it's not because when I think back on many Bond movies Yeah. It's like the third or fourth thing that I might actually remember.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:But I think the reason it's important is because it defines how Bond can move forward. And I think the reason we had trouble with this in the past is because we kept trying to not necessarily deconstruct the genre. Mhmm. But we kept approaching it in a non we in not enough of a black and white way.
Speaker 1:Yes. Yes. We we focused on Bond moving through the plot. And if we go villain forward, if we think about the villain, the threat, what the villain's motives are
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:And methods are, now we can take this Bond character who exists in a pretty tight constraints Mhmm. Who exists in pretty tight constraints and now put him into plot. Yeah. So, yeah, villain Ford is gonna save us here.
Speaker 2:And Yes. We have entered a period in time in which Bond villains kind of seem a a plenty.
Speaker 1:Yeah. It kinda a little quaint that we exist in a world where Bond villains are actually runningabouts. Yes. Something that the Pierce Brosnan era dealt with, similar to some other franchises in the mix, was the end of the Cold War, to being a fossil of a of a a bygone era. The Cold War is over, James.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You are a relic. It is not us versus the Russians anymore, and certainly the first Bond movie is him versus the Russians one last time. Yeah. And then they moved on from that. The Cold War is over, but we have entered a new era of war.
Speaker 2:Sure. And and it but and it and it appears more like Bond's Cold War than than not. Yeah. We're talking about oligarchs. We're talking about I'm I'm I'm just getting right to it.
Speaker 2:Authoritarianism, fascism, Nazis, and American oligarchs. Yes. That that's where I'm going.
Speaker 1:Yes. And the the best Bond movies reflect the the eras that they came out in. So I I think the the the original three Connery ones are probably, especially for their Arab, especially for what they did for cinema in in, you know, even though it was replicating North by Northwest and what have you. That trilogy is the best back to back to back. Like, those three in back to back like that Mhmm.
Speaker 1:That's the best trilogy in the Bond franchise. Okay. I I'm an apologist for Quanos Salas, but you can't go Casino Quantum and Skyfall is the best
Speaker 2:trilogy because
Speaker 1:that's No. Middle one's a problem. Right? Yeah. I am apologist for it, but I can admit the quality is dipped.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So but reflection of the era, Daniel Craig is a post 09/11 Bond Yeah. In in post 09/11 cinema.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:And and that is is very much reflected in the movies that he's made. The end of the Pierce Brosnan era, the excess and the ninetiesisms of of his era is reflected in post Cold War into that era. And and so, I I argue Goldeneye and Tomorrow Never Dies are pretty much equally as good. I know that might be blasting to some people. So because we exist in this era now, Bond going up against fascist oligarch trillionaires.
Speaker 2:Yep. More so, I actually really like the idea specifically of going up against and and I know he has they're they're up against an American villain. Mhmm. And I know he has gone up against them previously. And either I just don't remember them well enough or I feel like a new type of American Bond villain has kind of coalesced.
Speaker 1:Right. It's like yeah. Honestly, those first ones, because they're going straight from the books, they're they are British villains. They are they are German villains. They're right.
Speaker 1:Like, Blofeld is, like, Eastern European. Mhmm. There have villain, I think the first one I think he's Zato Zato. I think he's I think he's American. It's the guy who's in the mask.
Speaker 2:I know Christopher Walken was was in there somewhere.
Speaker 1:Oh, you know what? Joe Don Baker plays a villain in the is the villain in
Speaker 2:He's the villain?
Speaker 1:Living living daylights. Joe Don Baker is the villain Really? Timothy Dalton's.
Speaker 2:He was the he was the American CIA agent. He was his buddy. He was They're calling him Jimmy.
Speaker 1:He was oh my god. His name's Jack Wade. His name's in there.
Speaker 2:You figured it out.
Speaker 1:Oh my god. But, no, Joe Don Baker is two different characters in Bond. Oh my god. Funny. You're a funny man whoever sent that demand in.
Speaker 2:Jack Jack Wade did.
Speaker 1:Jack Wade did. Thank you. No. In Living Daylights, he plays, like an arm like an an American, arms dealer military fanatic. Oh.
Speaker 1:Like, he's a disgraced arms dealer Okay. Military wonk. What's his name? Something like I'm not I I could Google it, but, like, he's American. But you're suggesting
Speaker 2:We've been Americans.
Speaker 1:Right. Right.
Speaker 2:Basically, I wanna do this might be our most political episode.
Speaker 1:That's fine. We've we've come here before.
Speaker 2:I wanna I'd like, I'm imagining someone who is a
Speaker 1:who's a Walkin. Walkin's a villain in
Speaker 2:the other guy. Christopher Walkin. Did did I not see?
Speaker 1:I I was too busy.
Speaker 2:Thinking about Jodan Baker. Yeah. Fair enough. I think about Jodan Baker quite a bit.
Speaker 1:Yeah. My my my My my Mitchell. I
Speaker 2:I I wanna do, like, like, a a a I know Musk is South African, but, like, a like a a social a social media oligarch type is what I'm thinking of.
Speaker 1:Jonathan Price in Tomorrow Never Dies is a bit like this where
Speaker 2:He was a, yeah, he was a media
Speaker 1:guy. He was sort of Steve Jobs esque, but he was a yeah. You're right. He was a media guy. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Having someone who is a
Speaker 2:Who then wasn't his plan like, he controlled the media and then ultimately controlled the weather? Am am I mixing it? Because I also I know he had a hovercraft. He controlled the media from a hovercraft.
Speaker 1:It's a good movie.
Speaker 2:But I thought the the, the weapon they were trying to steal was to was a weather control device. I might be very, very wrong.
Speaker 1:It's he he's he's starting a war. Yeah. He oh, no. He he's a media Mongol, and he's starting wars for the ratings and the market access.
Speaker 2:Yeah. What what that's what I call weather.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But anyway okay. To to to to go to this this sort of Musk looking guy.
Speaker 1:But
Speaker 2:rather than right. Because they're that that's fomenting actual war. Right? So that that's James Bond stopping a war. Right.
Speaker 2:I'm imagining more like what we see happening. I'm seeing this this very powerful entity Mhmm. Basically taking control of taking control of America, basically taking control of one of Britain's allies. Okay. A very, very dangerous control.
Speaker 2:Right? Mhmm. Turn potentially turning Britain's ally into an enemy. And so James Bond has to go in to stop this.
Speaker 1:So if, like, this guy let's if this we're not gonna keep calling him Musk. Let's come up with a villain name here.
Speaker 2:Zuckerberg. Zuckerberg. Theo, Jarvan, Drumf.
Speaker 1:Sin. Oh,
Speaker 2:you wanna come up with a I see. Let's go with that. Sin.
Speaker 1:Victor Sin. He's he's developed through his technology. He he's I don't know. That mass it's kinda like mass hysteria. No.
Speaker 1:That doesn't work because that's like Jonathan.
Speaker 2:So the thing is a couple other bond things have kinda felt like this as well. Because wasn't wasn't not the last one. Surveillance.
Speaker 1:Right? Mhmm. That's Skyfall.
Speaker 2:Sky Skyfall
Speaker 1:has So Silva dealt a lot with surveillance. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:The thing is that's really what social media is it it right. So so Peter Thiel has this company called Palantir, and Palant this is real life. Mhmm. Palantir is being sold to the US government, has already been sold to many different parts of the government to basically identify and observe and follow many aspects of life so that they can monitor all of us. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And we don't know about it.
Speaker 1:You know about it. And that was the last we ever heard from Jim.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Pretty much. I'm I'm suggesting something on that scale, like the idea of, like, I don't need to fight or take people hostage or blow anything up
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:When they give me everything willingly. And and and and the idea of of right. This this this multifaceted propagandist Mhmm. Who has by hook and crook, wheedled his way into being the man who stands behind the man who stands behind the throne.
Speaker 1:So he and he has done this to multiple leaders around, like, Europe or whatnot?
Speaker 2:It could be. I was just thinking The US.
Speaker 1:Just the oh, like, oh, like, the president is fully compromised.
Speaker 2:But the plan Mhmm. After that is to spread to other countries as
Speaker 1:well. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So he he is a are we making him South African?
Speaker 1:Are we a South African maniac?
Speaker 2:No. I was just gonna say American.
Speaker 1:Okay. He's a full on American trillionaire Yeah. Tech mogul who has used his his ones and zeros to not just put people in power but control them. Like, did he did he get the president elected? Are we are we full on going with this?
Speaker 1:Like, is this allegory gonna be a one for one to some people? Like
Speaker 2:Sure. I I don't mind it. I'd I'll I'll go there.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And once he has once he has placed his people in power, now he's like, now I get to now let me reshape the
Speaker 2:world. Mhmm.
Speaker 1:And he is eliciting wars. Like, you said, he can kinda do this without blowing shit up. And so is it pitting pitting
Speaker 2:Basically, declaring just declaring certain rights Mhmm. Moot and shaping society how he decrees.
Speaker 1:Okay. Motive wise and and executing that's I like where your head's at. We're we're basically taking what is believed to be and cranking it up to cinematic levels
Speaker 2:of Sort of. Like like, the reality of it is so absurd that it kind of is movie levels, but people aren't gonna believe that. So we can put it in a movie. Yeah. Pretty much as is.
Speaker 2:So the the ultimate plan could be here. How how about this? I'll lay these things out and maybe this is where we're gonna go.
Speaker 1:I think I get it.
Speaker 2:He's he's literally making his own he's using this society that he's taking control of. He's essentially zombified.
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:And within it, he is building his own city that he can do what he wants with. And so he is now deporting, quote, unquote, deporting people that rather than it being, like, horrifically in real life, it's the deplorables, the unwanted. Mhmm. He's and he might actually be doing that to cover kidnapping people that he wants, certain science certain scientists Yep. And and things like that that he is then taking to his private city
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:Where everyone is basically going to be his slaves doing what he wants.
Speaker 1:Is the city he's taking control over Washington DC? No. You're saying he's fully built in city?
Speaker 2:Whole new building a whole new or if if you want it to be an existing city
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Then literally, it it he's gonna escape from New York it where
Speaker 1:basically That's what
Speaker 2:I'm thinking. The government declares, oh, this city? Mm-mm. This
Speaker 1:I I think that's too far. I I I'm suggesting he's But
Speaker 2:that's what they're doing in real they're they're creating things called freedom cities Oh, no. Where people where one technocrat will rule over the whole thing Mhmm. And none of the people it'll be like a company town with technology, and everyone will be highly, highly surveilled and controlled. It's a supervillain plot.
Speaker 1:It is. It is. Can can I see?
Speaker 2:Is it too do you think that's too out there for a movie?
Speaker 1:No. I I'm just I'm me okay.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 1:Sure. He's using psychological warfare
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:Precision propaganda Mhmm.
Speaker 2:And and the levers the levers of government.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And he's and he's created his own system of government by getting people elected. He's built he's stacked everything. He has congress under his thumb. He literally has the president under his thumb, like, on speed dial.
Speaker 1:Like, he's he's manipulated the the system right in front of us Mhmm. And he controls it. I that's that's that's where I'm like, okay. We've laid out a villain. We've we've got a villain.
Speaker 2:Sure. Okay.
Speaker 1:Vincent what did I say?
Speaker 2:Vincent Sin. Vincent. Victor.
Speaker 1:Victor Sin has done this. He he even smiles for the camera. He he's he's a public facing man. And even if there's conspiracy that he has done all this, there's no proof. But then Sure.
Speaker 1:And and and he shuts the media down.
Speaker 2:And and he because he's done it through puppets and because he controls
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:The media.
Speaker 1:So he's just this this friend in the city, this friend of of of people in power. He has no power himself. Okay. This is the villain. This is what he's done.
Speaker 1:If someone within the system is running, I'm getting chased by what is essentially secret service being controlled by someone else Okay. And I'm going to be killed. I am I am a senator senator from from, from, Oklahoma.
Speaker 2:I don't know. Okay.
Speaker 1:Running, like, literally running for their life. Don't know who they can trust. Contacts m I six. Help. The this country has fallen.
Speaker 1:Everything all the conspiracies about this guy are true. Oh, no, bank. And now we have a reason to send James Bond. A call call for help has gone out.
Speaker 2:I don't think it should I see what you're saying. I how about this? The call for help comes from we we we we can even have, a cold open. I know the cold open is normally supposed to be bombed.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Certainly. Go ahead. Yeah.
Speaker 2:A cold open is an agent, an American agent. I don't know if we would wanna say straight up CIA Mhmm. Or just another alphabet agency or someone is running. And they're the ones who get a message to MI six. And MI six, basically, this information, with this cold open, verifies that they're that
Speaker 1:They're compromised.
Speaker 2:They're they're the last friendly agent across the pond has has gone dark.
Speaker 1:Mhmm. And so now that that is the the the final red flag that means we gotta go in and see what's up?
Speaker 2:That's what I'm thinking. Okay.
Speaker 1:So bond okay. So if the cold open is action sequence non bond related and then the phone call is like, the phone call gets cross bond and they activate bond, like
Speaker 2:So I realized I'd in in in my excitement to just frame it it like real life stuff. I don't have we don't have a McGuffin. We'll get there. Like, what's the what's the button that Bond needs to push or needs to prevent from being pushed? Correct.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Right? Like Sam Jackson and Kingsman was gonna make everyone fight to the death.
Speaker 1:Okay. How about this?
Speaker 2:What's what's our what's our villains?
Speaker 1:Could could the the the the the the MacGuffin, the thing that needs to be stopped, that that bond needs to break, blow up, or whatever to stop the thing, could our Victor Sin his his plan has already been executed to the point where he's literally running for president, and the his his, night of the election red button that seals the deal for him is the thing that'll be his ones his computer algorithmic thing that he will hit enter on will sway the election and his result, into sway the election results in his favor, and so Bond has to blow up that. That's that's my first blank, idea. Because you're right. We need Bond needs to blow something up to kill this guy.
Speaker 2:It could be.
Speaker 1:Because you're right. If if, whatever this villain is doing, there's an the ultimate plan is gonna come to fulfillment at at the end of this movie. Neither Bond stops it, which he will, or
Speaker 2:I I I guess, ultimately, I think where where I would you know where I kinda wanna see this go? The reason Bond the reason the British and Bond get involved isn't actually even because, oh, no. We have to help the Americans.
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:It's actually, oh, no. The Americans have fallen. Oh, no. The person who has taken them is now spreading to the rest of the world.
Speaker 1:Okay. So America has fallen? Yeah. Oh. That's pretty sci fi.
Speaker 1:So, we'll elaborate on that.
Speaker 2:Well well, I guess I I guess I laugh because that phrase America has fallen doesn't mean that, like, it has literally fallen anywhere or it has lost its lost its weapons. It means it has fallen out of the alliance that
Speaker 1:Like, they they backed out of the Paris Accords and Yeah. Yeah. Like the UN, that sort of that sort of crazy thing?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Enemy agents have turned them against all of what the rest of of the the the Western alliance has been. And those forces are now seeking to undermine Britain and other allies in the same
Speaker 1:Okay. Okay. So Victor Sin is a fascist trillionaire who has manipulated his way into literally controlling the US government. He's already at the beginning of this okay. Our cold open is Bond securing this information.
Speaker 1:Okay. Like, he he's getting the he's he's he's on some operation in what's the territory? Guam.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:I'm thinking of, like, a US territory.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:And then getting the the doohickey bang bang bang shoot shoot action sequence that starts the movie off, he escapes with the doohickey the doodad to get back to m I six to say, I got the doohickey, they're like, well, this this
Speaker 2:I got the microfiche.
Speaker 1:Confirms the microfiche. We are setting this modern day.
Speaker 2:Yes. Okay. So definitely microfiche.
Speaker 1:Yes. So America's fault. That is that is what's proven in the opening act of this movie is that, like, the the big villain we have to face is the king of America.
Speaker 2:Kind of.
Speaker 1:The president? No. No. This guy.
Speaker 2:The Shadow King.
Speaker 1:Shadow King. Yeah. There's his there's his villain name, the Shadow King. He's he's American. He's a tech industrialist.
Speaker 1:He's a do do you like the idea that he controls the media as well? Like,
Speaker 2:he Ultimately, yeah.
Speaker 1:Probably a defense contractor to start. Like, maybe that's how he started his, like, tech like Zuckerberg and defense Private. Private contract. Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 2:But think think of think of how all of our current techno oligarchs got their starts. Bezos,
Speaker 1:Musk
Speaker 2:Yeah. Feel. So this it was it was PayPal, Amazon, Tesla, Twitter.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Peter Thiel?
Speaker 2:Peter Thiel.
Speaker 1:Yep. That name I I'm afraid I'd I've never heard before, which means no. We're frightened by him.
Speaker 2:JD Vance was his his boy.
Speaker 1:Oh, god. And that's
Speaker 2:that he because that's how JD Vance kinda got the VP nomination is that's what he wanted and through pressure through Musk and other just rich means is how he got JD Vance pushed into that role.
Speaker 1:So he already has his thumb on the scales. Yes. Spicing that up. So Vic Victor oh, no. He's American.
Speaker 1:I was gonna give
Speaker 2:him an accent.
Speaker 1:Victor Thiel. No. It sounds like Rami Malek. He he believes that liberal democracy has outlived its usefulness. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Right? And he he sees the world is is begging for a single efficient authoritarian state to restore order
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:To to to almost make the world great again. Yep. And his goal is not to conquer through armies. Like you said, he's not he's not bombs and guns that he's conquered, but through, like, controlled attention, obedience, and the control of, like, people's digital life.
Speaker 2:Sort of. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And he controls the president.
Speaker 2:And democracy is slow Mhmm. And and inefficient. And a techno cat technocrat, a tech bro wants to do nothing but to move fast and break things.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Flood the zone. If we want All that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah. If we want to do we wanna go to, like, supervillain level where he's literally mind controlling people?
Speaker 2:No. I don't want it. It's not like brainwash.
Speaker 1:Great. Okay.
Speaker 2:But like and I don't know if we'd we'd wanna get to the point where it's like, oh, Bond, you're after me. Well, guess what? I've put out your face all over the Schmitter net, and everyone looks at the Schminternet. So now everyone sees your face. They're like, hey, good dad guy.
Speaker 2:I don't know if I don't know if we wanna go that far.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So it's not like mind control. Yeah. And exposing Bond to do shit like he's already out there like, hi. Hi.
Speaker 1:James Bond over here. How's going? Hey. Hey. Hey.
Speaker 1:Martini shaking that third. Think of vodka? You got Smirnoff back there?
Speaker 2:Yeah. But if every guy on every street corner knows his face.
Speaker 1:So what's Yeah. What's the big thing that this guy who already, like, has controlled America?
Speaker 2:What's what's the what's the third act? And my ultimate plan is a laser on the moon. Right? Like
Speaker 1:Freaking sharks with freaking lasers on their freaking heads. Like, I'm I'm asking you, but I'm giving myself time to think of one myself because what what is the the
Speaker 2:Well, and that that's why I went to they're known as freedom cities. There a couple of them actually kind of exist around the around the world. Mhmm. That ultimately is the goal of the technocrats, the these people in real life, is to make these sovereign city states where one person rules at the top and does what they want.
Speaker 1:What if
Speaker 2:he has, like,
Speaker 1:a program that will give him full control of the military worldwide? Because it's not
Speaker 2:He's gonna make a make a a a new world order with just one person at the top?
Speaker 1:Yeah. Where he he's like, if there's other like, the people pushing against him, the German president or the or the French president, prime minister, the the British prime minister, Canadian like, they are, the Australian president. Like, all these allies are, like, pushing back against the president, and the president's like, no. No. I'm I I think this is best for our country and best for the world is if we do it this way.
Speaker 1:And the the pushback on that is is when Victor Sin steps forward is like, you're gonna do all the policies I want.
Speaker 2:What what do you think about the idea of a point in the movie, he gets accused, Like Bond even accuses him. You're brainwashing these people. And and he says, yes, but not the way you think. And and because it it literally it's not like their eyes glaze over and they're unaware of what they're doing. He is just honestly what we would call them.
Speaker 2:He's radicalized them. Okay. And so he has organized these Oh. These groups
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Who are Dude. Who are standing back and waiting for orders.
Speaker 1:He he already has And and he already has the two things he needs. Money Mhmm. And the money to buy people into power. So either you bend your knee to me or I'll replace you. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I will run someone against you with more money than God, me, and they will beat you, and then I will have a puppet in Germany, in Australia, in Japan. So his his doodad could be a final thing that gives him control of all the money
Speaker 2:the world. 66 no. Sorry.
Speaker 1:All the money in the world.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 1:Because he already has enough money to do all this, but, the essentially, it's like, well, if I if I do x if I press this if if I complete my plan, I will literally control
Speaker 2:all the money in the world.
Speaker 1:That shouldn't be the name of the movie.
Speaker 2:No. Well, I was actually gonna say it could be the name of the movie, and we just don't say that line. And what he does is he said he what he's doing is he's threatening to actually crush to literally delete entire economy.
Speaker 1:Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. There we go.
Speaker 2:And now we can make him a crypto bro.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Kind of. Yeah. I mean, These these dork you've been talking about are all crypto bro.
Speaker 2:Because that's cool. Because the and and that's exactly why. They want to crash the economies so that way their their cryptocurrency is the one, that is still available.
Speaker 1:Okay. So is his is his is the MacGuffin that final piece of the puzzle that'll allow him to delete money?
Speaker 2:What do you think sure. So he's taken over The US. He's a so so he has established himself, like, I am here
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:And you will you will play ball. And Britain and May what if what if some other countries, they're like, we're not gonna do that. And, like, okay. Yeah. As an example, cachoon.
Speaker 2:And he and he destroys the
Speaker 1:I've used blockchain mutations and quantum decryption to delete your to backdoor delete
Speaker 2:The Frank.
Speaker 1:The the Frank. Frank is now gone.
Speaker 2:Although, I think it's already gone because there are euros. I don't actually know how euros work. Oh, no.
Speaker 1:I have backdoor access to the central bank digital currencies, cryptocurrencies, old school reverse reserve data, and I am I am deleting it. No. He he sounds cooler than that. Yeah. This guy is smooth.
Speaker 1:He's he's as cool as they all wish they were. He's as cool as Elon Musk thinks he is. Yeah. Yeah. Yes.
Speaker 1:What was it? Someone said he's never seen anyone spend so much money to go
Speaker 2:from five to a seven. Yeah.
Speaker 1:So oh, you know what?
Speaker 2:Pick pick pick a country.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Right? Like, all I all I can think of are are European euro.
Speaker 1:Let Varia.
Speaker 2:Sure. Let Varia. He he's like, alright. Resist me, Doom. That that was your last chance, and I have crushed your doom rupal.
Speaker 2:And Latveria like, we have a screen in Latveria. The the the doom rupal
Speaker 1:The doom rupal.
Speaker 2:Goes to zero. No.
Speaker 1:Richards. The doom ripple is amazing. He can he can delete entire GDPs.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Basically.
Speaker 1:Okay. So this doodad Mhmm. Is what Bond needs to get and destroy. Right?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:If if he's if he's consolidated that into a singular device, now we have a thing that Bond can get to and kill. He can kill the machine.
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:Maybe maybe this guy is so egotistical that he keeps it on him. Like, it's something that he it's like like, he's had his freaking lung removed and replaced with this thing. I'm just saying, like, something that Sure. It it would be simple to go, like, why didn't he back up have backup systems? That's the hubris of this man.
Speaker 1:It's like Yeah. Yeah. It's his one and only. It's his Apple Watch.
Speaker 2:It's A ring, and he calls it the Midas Touch.
Speaker 1:Oh, a full hand.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's that's good. I was gonna wait. A full hand of rings?
Speaker 1:No. No. His whole
Speaker 2:hand His whole hand has been replaced. Has been replaced.
Speaker 1:His hand is what Bob needs to chop off.
Speaker 2:No. That's a good idea. It's the thing is that that notion though of Midas Midas' is touch Mhmm. Is the reverse of what we set up. Yeah.
Speaker 2:In in this, it's he can make money disappear whereas Midas could turn Everything go money.
Speaker 1:Well, he can he can call it the Midas touch and then Bond can point out to him that that's actually not what he's doing.
Speaker 2:You stupid. You stupid asshole. That was the one flaw in your plan.
Speaker 1:How about this? It's it's his hand. It's like his full hand has been is is the device there.
Speaker 2:It's his gold member.
Speaker 1:Oh my god. And his dick. That's what I was you beat me to the punches. Sorry. I was saying eyeball.
Speaker 1:An eyeball. Like, it's his eye and his hand. Like, some some like, he's he's sort of cybernetically replaced parts of himself. He is the he is the MacGuffin, so Bond just needs to beat the snot out of him by the end of this thing.
Speaker 2:Give me that eye. Can punch punch hand. No. Give me the eye. No.
Speaker 1:You know what kinda this doohickey kinda is? Is the box from Sneakers.
Speaker 2:Kinda. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm okay with that because Mhmm. For those of you listening who may not have seen the movie Sneakers, it's awesome, and you should see it, and it's great. And it's got an amazing cast, and it's a great movie. Absolutely. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay. Do what do you think of that? Like, I went to the I went to the supervillain level of a hand and an eyeball here.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm I'm not totally sold on the hand and eyeball, but I think there's other things to discuss that that either could win me over or I might think of something different.
Speaker 1:Do you like the notion of he has it on him? Sure. So now Bond can literally get to this bad guy and and beat the bad out of him. If he destroys the thing, the economies are safe. Sure.
Speaker 1:Because Sort of. Get Bond to issues.
Speaker 2:His eye. Yeah. What if he builds into a pacemaker? A dead man switch.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 2:Literally, if if you kill me, Bond Mhmm. The they all delete now. They all delete immediately.
Speaker 1:Then we could have two missions here. One is to kill the heart, and second is destroy the backup system or or create a backup system to to stop that from happening. It's because now Bond can have an ally, usually a woman Mhmm. Who can be responsible for that part of the mission. If the heart's gonna go offline, we need something to keep the the economies intact.
Speaker 1:But then then the question that is left on the table at the end of the movie, is which is a good open ended thing is, well, now who controls the device now that the supervillain has it in and that's a top men. Right?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So if we have a second
Speaker 2:That's a that's MI seven business now.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Right? But having a having a two pronged attack, if we we stop the heart, but we have a backup system. And the the the backup system is the the most important part of this plan because sin is gonna be like, if you stop my heart, mister Bond, you will delete everything, and you will create an anarchy that I would that I would never even go so far as to create. The opposite of what I want.
Speaker 1:I want control, mister Bond. I want a world united under one flag and $1 that happens to have my face on it. If you kill me, you wipe all that away. I would never do that all at once unless pushed to do that. Like, you know, villain talk, villain talk, villain Yeah.
Speaker 2:The only thing that keeps society running and separate from wolves tearing at each other is the dollar, is trade. And I am willing to delete all of it if you punch me in the nose, mister Bond.
Speaker 1:It's just my world, You're just living in it.
Speaker 2:So yeah. That that kind
Speaker 1:of thing. That's actually the theme song that we get Okay. An Oscar for. My world, you're just living in it. It's my world.
Speaker 1:You're just living in it.
Speaker 2:You're just dying in it?
Speaker 1:Yeah. Oh. Okay. This is this is okay. I think we did what needed to be done, which is create a villain, and now Bond can insist.
Speaker 2:That it's going to feel awesome watching Bond find and defeat. Right.
Speaker 1:Now, in order to do that, we need to move him across the world a few times. Mhmm. We need a secondary muscle for him to get past
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:To get to our villain. So someone who is a physical threat because our main character you know, I don't wanna get in the end of die another day where we got electro snot man punching Bond. Right? But giving him some sort of cue to kill.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 1:We can bring cue to kill back. Jaws was in Mordent. Yeah. Jaws was in Mordent. Yeah.
Speaker 2:He oh, he was? Oh, yeah. I'll bring Dave Batista.
Speaker 1:Batista Bay. We don't
Speaker 2:what to with his murder thumbs.
Speaker 1:But I wanna take a quick little break here. We'll take our five. And
Speaker 2:And now we'll get into the the the nitty gritty?
Speaker 1:Yeah. I think so. Yeah. Let's let's move into some beats. Let's think about the maybe who this partner is.
Speaker 1:Let's think of a muscle. Let's think of someone for him to seduce. Sure. Yeah. I think we I think we I'm I'm so glad we found a good villain because really we can build a movie around that now.
Speaker 1:Mhmm. So, alright. We're gonna take a quick break here and we'll be back after a few messages from Six Five Media. What if this is the thing that gets us black bagged?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. What if it is?
Speaker 1:Yeah. Alright.
Speaker 2:I I hope the episode at least comes out before then.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. That that'd be real surveillance right there if they heard this.
Speaker 1:Alright. I wanna give Jim credit. He's the one who said that off mic. That's not fair for me to take credit for that. Okay.
Speaker 1:So we now have our villain. We kinda we we have an his his motives. He's controlling he's controlling America. Now he's moved into controlling Europe, and he's starting to target leaders, either bend the knee or I'll replace you. Oh, you're not gonna do that?
Speaker 1:Delete. Where'd your GDP
Speaker 2:go? Right?
Speaker 1:So he's big time threat man. Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Having a cold open where Bond action sequences himself into some sort of confirmation of the threat of America. Like, what's our opening here that gets the gets the
Speaker 2:train rolling? Is this conflating too much with with Mission Impossible if the cold open is with a different agent?
Speaker 1:I I don't mind it opening with a different agent. I'm okay with it, but it still needs to I it still needs to end the cold open still needs to end with James.
Speaker 2:It does?
Speaker 1:I I think. I think that if the if it's seen in action sequence sort of Josh Holloway in MI four situation Mhmm. Where it's like, is this Bond? Is this Bond? Oh, it's not Bond.
Speaker 1:There still needs to be a hand off in that opening even if it's just this agent confirming to to m and then m contacting and waking up Bond. For example, we can draw from a book. From Russia with Love starts with Bond sitting poolside bored out of his mind.
Speaker 2:That's and I bored wasn't quite aroused. I have an idea.
Speaker 1:Okay. Okay.
Speaker 2:I don't know if you wanna finish the opening of
Speaker 1:We have precedent just to show at least in the novels Mhmm. Bond isn't active in the opening. We cut to him waiting for a mission.
Speaker 2:We so This cold opening is Bond sitting in a cafe Mhmm. At a at a hotel. Cut to an agent running for his life from from from other people chasing him down. Cut back to bond, sitting, waiting. Waiter, waiter, would you would you like to order now?
Speaker 2:No. I'm I'm waiting for someone. Yeah. Cut back to the person. I'm doing Not not not too long.
Speaker 2:We don't wanna spend too long. They're they're they're just barely making it past past these guys, and we see, oh, there he's in the same place. Like, maybe we see the hotel, like, a block down. Mhmm. And we do, like, a zoom in and there's James sitting there.
Speaker 2:And he's running and all sorts of stuff is happening, basically shooting and dodging and stuff. Maybe the shooting stops once they're up on the street. Yeah. But basically, he gets to either right outside or, like, right across the street, and Bond makes eye contact with him.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And, like, the guy realizes, like, he sees people converging. He knows this isn't gonna happen. So he either just gives a they, it could be a woman. Yeah. Just gives a look or or a signal that Bond knows the meet is not going to happen.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And, like, maybe while he while, like, looking at them, like, he he puts his finger to his ear Mhmm. And to to his m I six, like, the
Speaker 1:Handlers or whatever.
Speaker 2:The the the meeting the meeting is is aborted. The meeting is failed or or or whatever as that person gets Snatched. Gets black bagged, actually.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Gets gets grabbed. Okay. And so the that that opening is, right, the last the last agent getting information out of The US to m I six has been grabbed.
Speaker 1:The Olympus has fallen. Yeah. Not not the movie. I'm saying, like, that's basically the code for the White House is down Yeah. Which is a different movie.
Speaker 1:You get what I'm saying. Yeah. So confirmation that, we have no more friendlies in the West. Yeah. And now we well, so what that that's confirmation.
Speaker 1:Now do we send Bond off on his own to maybe maybe there are still friendlies. It starts as a rescue mission kinda thing. Like, what what now that we've got that confirmation, where do we send Bond? So I have Well,
Speaker 2:he would he would be, okay. Come home. And he's gonna come home, and then we're gonna put together our exposition of m and q explaining to him what we're doing now.
Speaker 1:Okay. What
Speaker 2:are we doing? Or or we do like a we do a six months later kind of thing. Mhmm. And we we can explain we can explain what just happened Yeah. There.
Speaker 2:Right? Like so as of that mission
Speaker 1:Okay. I got Yeah. I got it.
Speaker 2:Our our our last definitive friendly has fallen. Right. It's not that there are no more. It's that we can't trust that they haven't been compromised. Yes.
Speaker 2:On top of we are already losing some of our own agents to this same compromise. Mhmm. So this the whatever this is is starting to infect others including us.
Speaker 1:Okay. I yes. I like this. And this is what I'm gonna do. And I I love the idea of Bond not being action active in the opening because I wanna build up to that.
Speaker 1:Okay. We're gonna have whoever we cast in this, people will assume they're gonna get James Bond action, but we're gonna wait to give it to them.
Speaker 2:My current favorite like, you you named two in the opening, two two Yeah. Current favorites. Mhmm. I like both of them. I keep going back to Kit Harrington.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah. I don't know why. I he's not blonde. Yeah. I think he would probably look terrible as a blonde.
Speaker 1:Well, blonde isn't blonde. What are you talking about?
Speaker 2:But isn't that's a
Speaker 1:James James blonde became a problem when Oh, was
Speaker 2:he's he's not supposed to be blonde.
Speaker 1:He's not supposed to be blonde. I thought the
Speaker 2:broccoli said he must be. No. Did I I misunderstood. I misheard that.
Speaker 1:Here whatever the case, our hero, we don't see we don't see Bond involved with action at first. Maybe we see him, like, in the shooting range or whatnot to to hint at his skill. The the first mission he's given is there are still some friendlies out there, and one of them needs extraction. And we can introduce Felix right away. We have American act American friendly who is needs who not only is ready to defect to us essentially, but has information that will help us further
Speaker 1:the plot. Further the plot.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:So Bond is sent to retrieve sure. Hawaii. He's sent to retrieve Felix.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:And Felix is captured under duress or pinned down and not gonna make it alive, Bond shows up smooth, you know, like, whatever infiltration does to get there. And when we get to however many fifteen minutes or so into the movie that this is, the first action sequence comes where Bond is activated, where the thing I always point out to the Daniel Craig one, that opening parkour sequence is amazing, but the thing that's, like, definitive of him of his Bond is him plowing through that ply that wall.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Right? And having Bond show up in sort of that typical smooth, like, Sean Connery wasn't doing kickflips.
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:But getting to that point of he is ready to face some villains, we have our first, like, gigantic action set piece, and whoever this actor is cuts loose. Bond is very capable of John wicking his way through this. And, the reason I even evoke that is because Bond chases chases franchise stuff, chases trends. Yeah. Having our our first true action sequence, to leave the audience go, holy shit, James Bond.
Speaker 1:Like, going to that Kingsman church level. You've seen Kingsman.
Speaker 2:Right? I
Speaker 1:have. Yeah. Going to that level capability of Bond. Like, when we finally turn Bond on, not that way.
Speaker 2:Just Yeah. I see what you're well, then then I wanna propose a change because because I see what you're saying. That probably should be in the opening. Otherwise, right, as a being a Bond fan, that's gonna feel kinda weak. Bond just sat there through the whole opening, saw his friend, didn't even do anything.
Speaker 2:So what if so is is that Mhmm.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm suggesting. But like You're you're
Speaker 2:oh, so you were countering
Speaker 1:No. No. What I'm saying. I'm suggesting we wait to see this first action sequence for when he says Felix that the audience is is anticipating this.
Speaker 2:Your your description of it actually makes me think we shouldn't wait Okay. Then. And in so instead of maybe then we see so so have the length of whatever you're thinking that cold open was. We see him get black bagged. We see him say something and they say aborted.
Speaker 1:He says No.
Speaker 2:No. Yeah. Like like, I can I can can fix this? I can recover this.
Speaker 1:Yes. Sorta. I I I don't wanna see him unleash. I wanna still save that. But giving him a little active in the opening, I'm okay with.
Speaker 2:Where if So you you keep saying unleash. I don't think this Bond should be the beast that Daniel Craig was. No. No. No.
Speaker 1:No. No. I'm thinking like John Wick where he's like, gun fooing his way, punching, kicking, back flipping, that sort of James Bond.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Because we've never seen a James Bond like that. We've seen we've seen the brute, and we've seen the suave judo chop bond. I'm saying we we go Jason Bourne on this with this bond. Jason Bourne is even a great example. John Wick.
Speaker 1:Like, having him go neo. That's what I'm saying unleash to this is a stunting problem. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just saying go ham.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 1:But for that opening, perhaps he
Speaker 2:You know what? Actually, comparison because even even John Wick feels almost more like, I'm imagining it I'm imagining Bond being freaking it's a bullet ballet like John Wick, except John Wick, there was still a lot of like, there was still a lot of visceralness to the to it. I'm see I'm honestly seeing a Pierce Brosnan type of combat scenes where he's kind of gun kata ing
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Through through the situation.
Speaker 1:Yeah. That's that's what I'm thinking as well. Just some Okay. Like, just a an a type of action we've never seen James Bond do before that still is punching, kicking, shooting a gun, but just a bullet ballet. Just
Speaker 2:owning it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Or it's just like jock. Like, I I point to the church scene in Kingsman as a great example of that's cartoonish.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I I think that that's that's that's my only resistance to that example.
Speaker 1:We'll let the stunt team figure it out. Okay. Yeah. But in that opening, I think giving him a gunshot or two, not not punching, kicking, but even going so far as to, like, let that lead up to
Speaker 2:It could start with a chase. It could start with a car chase. Because if because if they grab the guy Okay. Put him in a van, and Bond's like, I'm gonna fix this.
Speaker 1:No. Abort, Bond. Abort. And he takes the the earpiece out.
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:He's like, no. I will I will finish the job. And finishing the job might even go so far as having to kill the asset instead of letting them be taken taken hostage.
Speaker 2:Maybe.
Speaker 1:Whatever the case, he he confirms what he needs to confirm and loses the one asset. And if we if we lose the American asset here, it puts Felix at risk later. Just thinking for dramatic tension purposes, they already killed one.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 1:Felix is killed in the second
Speaker 2:He's the guy who's he's the guy who's fed to sharks?
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. On his wedding day. Oh, poor guy. Jesus.
Speaker 1:Okay. So
Speaker 2:They're not sharks. Alligators. Gideon Gideon Hill? I don't remember.
Speaker 1:I think it's sharks. It's in the water.
Speaker 2:Okay. It is. Yes.
Speaker 1:Bon rescues Felix in an a spectacular action sequence that everyone's gonna be talking about Mhmm. Only to be topped by the finale Yep. Where he gets Felix out, then we get more confirmation of the the big this is everything we need to know about the villain. This is everything we need to know about the thing. He's got his his whatever's on his person that's that's the bad guy we need to kill.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 1:And now it's I'm gonna I'm gonna go have a chat with him. And so now Bond gets to actually go to our villain and meet him face to face. So then then they can cat mouse their way to meeting each other for the finale. Okay. And this will also allow us to introduce the muscle, our our our jaws, our odd job, our cuticle.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Should he be a big guy?
Speaker 1:Well, how well do you remember Die Hard four? Live for Die Hard. There's the parkour Pretty
Speaker 2:pretty what I remember is his his girlfriend was sort of the the muscle.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I there's a And
Speaker 2:and John McClain kept making foolish comments that just got him punched harder.
Speaker 1:For shit. That's Maggie Q. And, there's, like, a jumpy parkour guy in there. Is there giant okay. He's like, what the hell?
Speaker 1:He throws him into a fan and he gets I
Speaker 2:think yeah. I like that more. A guy who especially if we establish that this bond isn't necessarily a parkour guy, but he is quite agile and
Speaker 1:and Martial artist.
Speaker 2:Fast.
Speaker 1:So having him
Speaker 2:Having someone be even faster.
Speaker 1:Mhmm. Yeah. Which could lead to some nice whatever their fight looks like. Yeah. Not the brute versus brute train fight.
Speaker 2:A Roy Batty type.
Speaker 1:Okay. Yeah. Someone who's just, like, cold and capable. Yeah. Much to the enjoyment of Victor Sin.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:The if getting like, maybe they leave if it is Hawaii and then he has to get to DC and has his first encounter with Sin and meets our brute Mhmm. Or a muscle. We'll call him muscle because brute suggests the wrong thing. The muscle to to Sin. There's probably a little scuffle there.
Speaker 1:Some some sort of Sure. Action sequence with Bond versus martial art muscle.
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:And Sin leaves to go to some other country to do other bad guy thing, and Bond has to follow him there and maybe loses him along the way. I'm just trying to, like, gloeprot a little bit.
Speaker 2:Mhmm. So maybe not Hawaii, Australia?
Speaker 1:Yeah. Island. So yeah. I said Guam. What's the other what's the other territory?
Speaker 2:Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1:That's right. The the there's another island chain that
Speaker 2:There is.
Speaker 1:Virgin Islands.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:But some sort of tropical location.
Speaker 2:And so and for for the listeners from there, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1:It's the Virgin Islands.
Speaker 2:It's no. I'm so sorry. I don't know who you are.
Speaker 1:Or it's the Mariana Islands. Either way, we have we have five territories. Guam, Puerto Rico, two sets of islands. American Samoa. There we go.
Speaker 1:There. Yes. I think I've named them all. American Samoa, Guam, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, and Meridian Islands. Marina Islands?
Speaker 1:Moridans? Whatever. If you're from there, I deeply apologize. Blame the American education system that I don't
Speaker 2:been deleted.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Thank you, Victor Sin. Yeah. You deleted money and education. Okay.
Speaker 1:Let's talk about
Speaker 2:An education is worth its weight in gold.
Speaker 1:Oh. Gold finger. Alright. A lady who's our second we we did introduce Felix into this, but maybe he's injured and can't be in the picture. To get to that culmination of punch this dude's heart out of his chest Mhmm.
Speaker 1:And having the backup system be made somewhere else, insert other allied agent.
Speaker 2:Should it be a flipped asset?
Speaker 1:Someone who okay. Yeah. Go with that.
Speaker 2:It one of one of Victorson's proteges who didn't see the how far this was going to go and is sickened
Speaker 1:And turned Yeah.
Speaker 2:By by what sin is doing.
Speaker 1:Let's have him could we this might not work.
Speaker 2:That yeah. That also might not work.
Speaker 1:No. No. No. I I have an idea for a scene. Let's okay.
Speaker 1:We have a cold opening.
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:We do the gun barrel sequence at the end of the car chase. Opening sequence. The next scene that happens after that is Victor with his muscle and and his team member, and he
Speaker 2:So a thought to terminate for for that intro. Yeah. What do you think about the idea of he gets the asset, they start driving away, and the muscle I don't know if we want to necessarily introduce him this early, but the muscle born identities, the asset.
Speaker 1:No. I don't wanna I I like where your head's at, but I don't wanna introduce the muscle here. I wanna wait to like, let's think it's bond and let's
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:The only character here that matters is bond. Okay. After the opening sequence, so then showing the muscle and Sin and the asset that's gonna flip and have the muscle kill the asset right then and there. She she messed up, and Sin is like, get rid of her. And a brief scuffle, and she is chucked off a building, killed or whatnot, and survives.
Speaker 1:So that once Felix is saved and Bon's on the road again, somewhere out there, she resurfaces
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:With a vendetta against him, and Bon clocks her. He's like, no. This isn't the time to confront him. Who are you? I'm Bond, James Bond.
Speaker 1:Who are you? I used to work for that man. I'm gonna kill him. You'll have your revenge. Let's work together.
Speaker 2:Okay. I think she doesn't flip because she's sickened. She was already she she's I don't know if she's necessarily working for someone. Mhmm. She might just be a whistleblower.
Speaker 2:Mhmm. So she was trying to take information and leak it.
Speaker 1:And that's why she's killed. Yeah. Those are killed. Yeah. I like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Okay. And now we have someone with that it's personal, someone with a connection to the villain, because we could then have her fight the muscle. If Bond doesn't kill the muscle, we give her some of the fight. We have options here
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:In terms of how her finale looks in building the the backup system Okay. Or securing the backup system. Maybe Sin already does have backup of his own Okay. That's hidden away that they they somehow discover. So it's like, you get that, I'll kill his heart.
Speaker 1:I will punch his heart out of the back of his face. There's a visual. There's a James Wan's directing this now.
Speaker 2:Okay. So right. So so she's she's a hacker who's basically go who who he takes with him to to hack a workaround.
Speaker 1:Mhmm. I'm imagining the, short former Red Room assassin from Captain America Brave New World. The not her, but that that sort of, like
Speaker 2:I'm not remembering her.
Speaker 1:She was the the Israeli, like, could she was the black widow esque character that helps them in cap America Four. I vaguely remember. Oh, man. That poor movie. Anyway, she she can fight.
Speaker 1:She has Sure. She has her own skills here. So she's not just she's not Natasha from no. From GoldenEye. Whatever.
Speaker 1:Whatever. Moving on.
Speaker 2:I see what you're saying. I'm not I'm not against it. I'm I'm not fully sold, but but I'm not against it.
Speaker 1:Okay. The okay. So globe trying a little bit, trying to catch this guy, the revelation. She could even be the one that reveals the the backup, the heart being the key. If he gets or would Felix reveal that when he saves Felix?
Speaker 1:Because Felix had that last bit of information to be like, it's his heart. You gotta punch it out of the back of his face.
Speaker 2:I think I think he would
Speaker 1:Natalia, not Natasha. Sorry. I said golden eye. Sorry.
Speaker 2:I I don't know. I I'm I'm not sure here. I'm not I'm not sure how the dissemination of information should go. Oh. Because okay.
Speaker 2:Right. Right. So it's the we get the cold open, doesn't doesn't get that that asset. Six months later, m and q fill bond in on what's going on. The the the powers that be there have made everything go dark, they have access to lots of other information and we see them creeping in like an infection to other
Speaker 1:Countries.
Speaker 2:Other, yeah, other countries.
Speaker 1:He's he's building up to to dissolving the UN. Like, that's his, like Sure. Yeah. Slowly working his way way to doing that. Dissolving it or controlling it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I guess dissolving it with his own people in place. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Corrupting it, basically. So so if if that's
Speaker 1:Syncorp will be the governing body of the world.
Speaker 2:If that's the if that's the the gist of the information they have and it's not until they pick Felix up, they're like, and we're we're we're scrambling for any more actual hard data. Mhmm. We have we have one last friendly asset we need you to rescue Mhmm. From the Virgin Islands.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 2:Go do that. Picks up Felix. Felix is like, this crazy asshole has has put the the device has a has a I don't know if you'd if you'd give him the dead man switch or if you would let him know that he just he has a hand Mhmm. That can, with the snap of his finger Don't that's a little that's little too
Speaker 1:Little too literal.
Speaker 2:To not just literal, but a little too Thanos, delete entire entire countries. This man doesn't have troops. Entire economies.
Speaker 1:He has he has debt algorithms. He's a he it's a it's fascism two point o. He controls through it's not controls through it's not it's not fear. It's it's a, like, economic annihilation. I'm trying
Speaker 2:to find,
Speaker 1:like, fun things to say. Yeah. He's he's weaponized the banks. Yeah.
Speaker 2:He yeah. He's he's weaponized weaponized our income against us.
Speaker 1:Mister Bond, I don't kill people. I buy them. Yeah. Yeah. Kill him.
Speaker 1:Kill him.
Speaker 2:Buy him to death.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Well, I mean, I I don't sorry. Let me be clear. I don't kill people. I buy them.
Speaker 1:My friend here is gonna kill you. Yeah.
Speaker 2:He's the embodiment of of private equity. I I liquidate. I liquidate companies.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Where is oh, sorry. Didn't even
Speaker 2:mean interrupt. So then she would have the information. I I think she would have the information about the dead man switch.
Speaker 1:Yeah. The oh, right. Right. If we stop the heart, then he deletes everything.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Like like like he yeah. She reveals the information. He's further along than any of you know. He's already in he already has his fingers in all of it.
Speaker 2:He can delete it all anytime he wants, and he's set up to do so if he is killed.
Speaker 1:There's gotta be a way to back he doesn't have a backup, like, then then then the question of this is we need to find out if there's a fail safe or a backup system. Mhmm. Maybe she well, she can't seduce him because she's already been killed by him, but that's the piece of information they would then need to lead us into the third act.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 1:Because if if he has a a a backup system computer that's connected via the cloud that he's created in some sort of vault underneath Pennsylvania. I'm trying to think, like, the original the original, capital of the country.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 1:I'm just trying to think of some significance here, where in America this moron would put his vault.
Speaker 2:He might actually, he wouldn't put it in America. He would put it in something like the Cayman Islands. Mhmm. Symbolic of of where rich people hide their money.
Speaker 1:Okay. Yeah. And and it's
Speaker 2:so And also so that we can get exotic beautiful locations.
Speaker 1:Alternatively, well, it could still be an exact location, but what about in
Speaker 2:But what about Downtown Philadelphia?
Speaker 1:Well, this this might be it could still be an exact location, and it can still lead to a big action sequence underneath in his, like, vault or whatever where his computer operating system is. But in the access point to it to get into that Mhmm. Is his childhood home where his mother still lives. And so, like, Bon showing up to, like, kick some ass, and a little lady is like, hello. Do you know my son?
Speaker 1:Come on in. I made cookies. And then she pulls a big old gun on him. I don't know. Maybe that's a little too cute cutesy.
Speaker 1:It should probably be some exotic locations so that we can watch cool things happen in
Speaker 2:cool locations. I yeah. I think it I think it needs to be that. Like like, I I get what you're going for, but that is somehow even though that's sort of touching upon the imagery in sim the symbolic imagery we would want Mhmm. To invoke, it's not really Bond esque.
Speaker 1:Yeah. You're right. Yeah. That's that's more Mission Impossible. Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's more even Bourne would be something. Yeah. Bourne would be going up against films like this. I take your point. This is not Bond.
Speaker 1:Bond would not go to a little lady's house
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Except for a joke, which is shouldn't be. Given the final location of the server and sending our bank's proper there Mhmm. Where does bond confront sin? If they're too far separated, where does bond where do bond and and banks separate? Or is it close enough, like say say the g seven summit is where this is is when the finale is gonna take place, like, where Sin's about to make his final speech to the to the UN or whatever.
Speaker 2:What do you think about like, he doesn't actually show up anywhere. Like like, he doesn't he doesn't personally go to those meetings. He would be on a screen Mhmm. At anything like that. He has a private island Okay.
Speaker 2:That is protected digitally.
Speaker 1:Oh, you know what? A classic mountain fortress, like, having some yeah. Villain lair.
Speaker 2:I would yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. You literally picked a villain lair. That's great.
Speaker 2:I I was thinking an island that a that a private plane is the only thing that has the security to to go to and from. Otherwise Yeah. Any other vehicle that tries to navigate there digitally, like like like the the the GPS is thrown off and there's all sorts of things. So it's essentially it it's in a black hole. No no one can no one knows how to get there.
Speaker 1:It's literally off any grid Yeah. Except his own.
Speaker 2:Yeah. The the only ways to get there would be by old fashioned navigating there, which could introduce another supporting character, or he has to infiltrate and get on that plane.
Speaker 1:Mhmm. Getting on the plane to get to the island? Yeah. Ken Adam could totally design a kick ass layer. He Ken Adam did all the for, like, the early era of Okay.
Speaker 1:Bon forge.
Speaker 2:By the way, this is an allusion to Epstein.
Speaker 1:Oh my god. So we don't need to elaborate on that, but there's a lot of individuals on the island of questionable age. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh god. No. There doesn't have just just the idea of one of these one of these movers and shakers behind the scenes of all of these people at the top of this particular pyramid Mhmm. And there being an island with a particular plane. Right.
Speaker 2:And that's the only way to and from there.
Speaker 1:Okay. Yeah. Having him infiltrate the plane to get to the island. I'm I'm down for that.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:It offers either a tense sequence of him seducing the flight attendants or having to his way onto the plane and off the plane?
Speaker 2:I think it would be like the sneaking seduction bit. And then while he's on his way Mhmm. A screen pops up and he says, welcome, mister Bond.
Speaker 1:Oh, I see you are going to join me on my island. I look forward to you being here.
Speaker 2:Your name wasn't on the on on the charter, but I'll I'll make an exception.
Speaker 1:Make an exception. I look forward to you I look forward to seeing you. So that means
Speaker 2:Something like that?
Speaker 1:He has to come and fight and oh, you know
Speaker 2:Do you wanna make that the first in their first encounter?
Speaker 1:And then that's also where we have to send bangs back to. That's her name.
Speaker 2:You you really, really wanna
Speaker 1:go Miss Proper. Miss Proper will have to go back to the island is where she will end her oh, the whole thing takes place in
Speaker 2:the end. Is that what we're suggesting? That that was initially what we were suggesting Yeah. Which it makes sense that we establish it early enough.
Speaker 1:If we I don't establishing it, but getting there so the final action is there, and we don't go there twice would be the thing. Like, getting to the island is the final location.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I think that's okay. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:So Yeah. If how about how about this? James getting on the plane and and sneaking his way there.
Speaker 2:If he If if he's found out and Yes. Sin is like, hello hello, mister Bond. You weren't invited. I'm sorry. We're gonna have to turn you around.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And or something like that. Like, to the point that Sin even sacrifices his own pilots. He'll do. Sure.
Speaker 2:He'll act. He'll activate a new plane and have new employees, but you're not coming here bond.
Speaker 1:So plane's gonna go down. Bond takes over to to land it. He
Speaker 2:tries to.
Speaker 1:This goes to what we initially talked about, the type of spy James Bond is and the type of spy other spies are. This whole thing, whatever the sequence before will allow us to get away with this. And I don't know what that'll be, but seeing a couple scenes before Mhmm. Get out, like, this is what's happen. Bond gets on the plane.
Speaker 1:This all goes he seduces the flight attendants. Mhmm. He's exposed. The plane's gonna crash. He lands the plane.
Speaker 1:He crashes in the water near the island. He gets to the island. Oh. He he oh, you well, go ahead.
Speaker 2:No. No. I I this this is this is the final?
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh, I was think I was thinking something different. Oh, I I I was thinking that that it would happen that would all be early on. That's when he first tries going to the island. He is rebuffed.
Speaker 1:Oh, I see.
Speaker 2:He cannot get there. They can't he can't get access. He doesn't know how. That's when bangs. Yeah.
Speaker 1:He's in Shows up
Speaker 2:because she knows how. She knows how to either she knows how to hack through that security Mhmm. Or she's able to get them on the plane or something like that
Speaker 1:Well, he
Speaker 2:to get them to the island.
Speaker 1:Here was my suggestion. If this was the finale of him getting on the plane, getting on the plane crashing, it it gets in the water. He gets on the island, and and he is the he's up front on James Bond. Let's fight our way through. Miss Proper's been there was on the plane too.
Speaker 1:She snuck on, and James getting there, being exposed, fine. If it was gonna happen, it was gonna happen. She's doing the spy craft to sneak past all of it to get to the lower floors to go after the so, you know what I'm saying? Like, Bond was like, hey. Here I am.
Speaker 1:I'm I'm a spy, and I'm coming to get you back. Oh, no. You got and she's the one who sneaks there.
Speaker 2:Like I see.
Speaker 1:He did that as a distraction to get her to the island too. Just so that they're both in the final location is that was where I was going with this.
Speaker 2:Gotcha.
Speaker 1:And and having him earlier in the movie have a plane crash and all that, then
Speaker 2:Well, not not if not if this happened. Not if this happens here.
Speaker 1:I'm willing to acquiesce to say, if you think that action sequence can happen earlier, then they need to get to the island a different way. Not not a plane.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So I I I make a hard pitch for that plane sequence being the entry into the third act, and miss Proper is actually snuck onto the island courtesy of James going through all that rigmarole.
Speaker 2:That's that's pretty good. I was trying to introduce I was trying to introduce the island via our character earlier. We can still don't know.
Speaker 1:We could still establish that. In fact, even if we meet when we meet Sin, he's on his island. Like, we see the we know what the final location is in the second scene of the show.
Speaker 2:So even though our character doesn't necessarily know it.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:We do.
Speaker 1:We know. We know that it's somewhere tropical. It's an island of sort. We establish it right up front, and that's eventually where Bond needs to go after he's been to America, to some islands, to London, to to UN summit, like, bouncing around the globe a little bit. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then then he's once he's landed on the island and he's going after Sin
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:Bangs, in the meantime, is going after the the backup system, and they need to time their what they're doing simultaneous. He can't kill Sin until the backup is confirmed in her control.
Speaker 2:Okay. Yeah. Sure.
Speaker 1:And then so she gets to fight the muscle up
Speaker 2:on Oh, she fights
Speaker 1:Well, I don't know.
Speaker 2:The muscle?
Speaker 1:If we want to use that, I said that we had two options. Either that's someone she has a vendetta with or she just go mows through some nameless guards while Bond fights the muscle to get to sin and then has to fight sin.
Speaker 2:I don't I you know? I'd I'd honestly, yeah. I either works for me. Well, Bond should probably fight the the muscle. As far as her also being an action star
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:I I would be more okay with that if she was also a spy of some sort. Her just being a whistleblower programmer who also knows combat foo
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:To take out a bunch of
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Trained security feels Let's make her doesn't work.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Let's let's make her and so, tomorrow never dies has Michelle Yao playing an agent, as well. Having having miss Proper be a
Speaker 2:She has she has been she is an agent, and she has been Yeah. Planted for a while now.
Speaker 1:Years in the making. She's been she took took her a long time to get into there, and and and and Sin could even prove the power of his algorithms by going, oh, my computer do anything. I do this and this and this. I didn't see that coming. Look what my ones and zeros just told me.
Speaker 1:It seems miss Proper here isn't as friendly as we thought she was. Muscle will take care of her. I don't know. In in in the introduction of his ability with ones and zeros, money, I don't know. I I his controlling of the algorithms exposes her on the spot, or has he known for a while?
Speaker 2:Not well, maybe.
Speaker 1:Well, it's a bit I don't care. It's a bit Elsa Faust, and I don't care if she's the best. Because she had she had inserted herself amongst in Rogue Nation. But that's okay. That's okay.
Speaker 1:Steal from it's James Bond. Steal from the the big stuff.
Speaker 2:Crap. I lost
Speaker 1:it. Exposing her. If she has he known for
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah. If if he's known, like like, basically, his monologue is is, he's just so disappointed. He's known for so long, but he was he he hoped he could convince her.
Speaker 1:I paid you so well.
Speaker 2:When you when you sent this when you sent this this email out, it turned I I guess I guess I didn't convince you. Yeah. Muscle show show sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Like Liquidate my asset.
Speaker 2:That that was her final chance.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then
Speaker 2:The worm the worm you put in in the code a couple years ago, I thought was cute. And this this other thing you did was quite admirable and elegant. Mhmm. But this, actually trying to reach out and and tattle on on our little game here.
Speaker 1:Smug little bastard.
Speaker 2:It's just that's one chance too many, miss Proper. I'm sorry. Bangs Proper.
Speaker 1:That just sounds Having elements of his lair, his base, have tech that he has bought and taken from like, having having, like, the like, some sort of fusion battery from a stolen like, a failed space program from one country and, that he's he's been scavenging and improving upon country's tech that he has bought. Okay. Just just little that's a production note, I guess. That's not essential to plot, but just showing just what his even when when when she's exposed, it's like, I paid you so well, but, you know, damn it if there aren't still people who can't be bought.
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:That that he can acknowledge that there are people who can't be bought. And he says that again later when he's talking to some world leaders of like Well,
Speaker 2:that's what this whole program is for. Yeah. It's to eliminate those.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. He's a good guy. Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 1:Bond punchifies him. He he he he just punches the heart out of his shit. Like, is that it just comes down to a fist fight, gunfight with this guy?
Speaker 2:Probably.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I think if the the big fight scene should be Bond versus the muscle and the because the muscle is the true threat physically to Bond. And then and then we have sin versus Bond is probably less exciting, physically exciting, a bit more like mental mind games. Like, if he even Like, how much bond? How much are you worth?
Speaker 1:I'll give you $10,000,000,000,000. I'll let Like, if he's just trying bond is like punch. Slide across the gun. I'll do that. Bang.
Speaker 1:Shoots him in the knee. I'll do it. I'll do it. Like, if he's just begging and and Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like Don't you don't you understand? If you kill me, no one no one gets anything.
Speaker 1:Letting the this little wiener show his true colors because when it when push comes to shove about any of these supervillains that we exist with, they're all little wet noodles.
Speaker 2:Like,
Speaker 1:none of them are are as as buff as one of them wants to get, as many hair plugs as the other one wants to get, as as much ultimate fighting as the other one might. Like, really, these guys are are little wieners, like and having having them sniveling and begging in the end to prove just how gross and awful they are. You know? A little a little wish fulfillment there. Right?
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 1:Does he kill him, or does he just does he see justice? Right? Like, if he rips his heart out,
Speaker 2:he's gonna
Speaker 1:die. But, like, I'm just what does Bond do in the end here? He kills his villains often, so it's not, like, out of out of the realm of Bond's wheelhouse to kill the villain.
Speaker 2:Sure. I I'm just trying to think of, like, like, a a cool way rather than just shut up. Bag.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I I I I think I could go either way. I would rather this villain be taken out here, let let it be over and done with. And then that the the the final scene of this is well, now that we have this, who controls this? And then it's the the British being the the pinnacle of liberty and justice presented to the UN as a whole or the United Nations as whole and say this device is is connected to it, and and we can we can all, we all have control.
Speaker 1:Like, it's not under one person's control.
Speaker 2:Would that would that be a a thing that, presenting it to the to the UN? It wouldn't just be m saying, we're gonna bury this in a vault, like like the Vatican.
Speaker 1:Well, the Vatican will be the threat in the next movie.
Speaker 2:There you go. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I just just trying to think of what is the the most heroic way to end this. Bond kills the villain, and Britain proves themselves the best by by something like this device.
Speaker 2:Is it too anticlimactic if if Bond is just pushing him around and, like, all that to the point that he says, do it. Do because Bond knows
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2:Delete. The property is already yeah. Delete. And, like, the guy is even with the the gun at his head, he can't do it. Mhmm.
Speaker 2:And so Bon says, I knew it. And and take takes him in. They they they put him in a cell.
Speaker 1:The only reason I don't wanna put him in a cell is because Blofeld in the cell was stupid because then there's always the threat of this guy coming back. But at the same time, it is a bit more heroic to not murder the villain in the end. Like, lower yourself to those things. I don't know. This is this is a tough line to walk because what's the most fulfilling thing for a James Bond movie?
Speaker 1:To see the villain get his chest desserts typically at their own hand rather than Bond actually
Speaker 2:killing them. Does it would it actually feel cool at all to, like, do a thing where he's like, there's nothing you can do. Bond, do this or that. I I control all this stuff. And up on his big monitor, his bank accounts come up or whatever, and he just watches the money just start draining out.
Speaker 2:Yeah. No. No. No. Ultimately, ultimately revealing what Proper's been doing.
Speaker 1:Yeah. That she's been transferring all the money equally around the world.
Speaker 2:And then and then he tries to push the button to to drain the others. Like, he tries to And it's not working yet.
Speaker 1:So And then he tries to kill himself, and that's not working.
Speaker 2:And he's just been reduced. Like, literally, he's all all of his resources have been taken and to just let him be like, empathetic now.
Speaker 1:I have nothing. I guess there's some things money can't buy.
Speaker 2:There's some things all the money in the world. You gotta say the title.
Speaker 1:Is all the money in the world I that's already a title. Is it? Yeah. It's a movie called all the money in the world that's from, I don't know, 2017. Oh, it's the one that Kevin Spacey was in that they erased him.
Speaker 2:Oh, they had to erase him.
Speaker 1:And they put Chris Plummer in. They put Chris Plummer in his place. And then Chris Plummer got nominated for an Oscar for it.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. That's that's well, you know, titles titles can be reused. But, yeah, having him I think that's fun to have him, like, watch the bank his bank account getting drained, and first he tries to destroy it all, and then he tries to kill himself, and it's all and he's just left there, like, with nothing Mhmm. With with with zero.
Speaker 1:He's like, he's got nothing.
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:And then, yeah, Bond can, yeah, either I guess not leave him there because he's still a threat in one way or another. But, yeah, I think that's that's pretty he could still beat the holy hell out of him. The real kill is the muscle, and then he just keeps punching and roughing up sin until that climactic moment when he watches it all drain, I think, while the building's burning down around him. So then he literally doesn't even have his island anymore. The island is, like, sinking.
Speaker 1:Sure.
Speaker 2:And then Is him is him well, no. Because you you said, like, he even tries to kill himself and it doesn't work.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Does he die? Do we just leave him in despair on his burning, sinking island? Do we put him in prison? Does Bond like, and now that it's done, I snap your neck or
Speaker 1:I don't like it. I don't think we do that. I think leaving him like, Oh, we did it. Already established this. There's one plane to the island, and we blew up the plane.
Speaker 1:And now if we destroy all of his technology and leave him there burning in his building on an an island that's not sinking
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 1:He's just down he has nothing. The techno he's he's literally gonna have to, like, rebuild a freaking communicator to even get off that island. And they'll they
Speaker 2:can and and even say I I guess
Speaker 1:It's his prison. He's left on his own prison.
Speaker 2:That's his own Elba. Yeah. I like that if we establish throughout it that he, like many of the technocrats Yes.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Didn't actually make anything
Speaker 1:He didn't do it. To just walk from Yes. He can't even build a communicator, like, build a radio. I can't do that. I can't he's never built a thing in his life.
Speaker 1:Hell yes. So his his island is his prison. Yeah. That's cool. And then Bond takes the the thing to m, and m decides what to do with it.
Speaker 1:Sure. M is now in control of all the money in the world.
Speaker 2:Yep. And that m stands for money.
Speaker 1:And Bond and and Banks proper go on a nice little trip together again. Right?
Speaker 2:Maybe.
Speaker 1:Sure. It doesn't have to end with him on a life raft making out with with her. Doesn't have to do that. Don't don't leave me hanging.
Speaker 2:I'm I'm trying to think. Wouldn't they have they they would've had they would've had sex earlier in the week.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah. Definitely.
Speaker 2:So then she would have gone her own way. She'd be going back to her agency.
Speaker 1:Yes. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And Bond would be on to the next mission.
Speaker 1:Yep. Yeah. And then that's there we go. Roll credits.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:We could even go so far as, getting him, if we wanted, the Mission Impossible sort of ending where he gets he gets the beginning he gets the message for his next mesh mission. It's like, are you ready for your next mission? Of course, I am. So even if m, after wrapping all up Mhmm. Putting the folder to the side and be like, alright.
Speaker 1:Well, that does that. Well, Bon, before you go, actually, have your next mission. Are you ready? Of course, I am. Hand it to him and then walks out the door with one final quip.
Speaker 1:Roll credits. Win an Oscar with the theme song.
Speaker 2:Alright. Yeah. Yes. James Bond, baby. This is my world.
Speaker 2:You're just dying in. I I like I think that's I think that's a a great Bond theme song title. Great.
Speaker 1:Well, mister Jack Wade, Joe Don Baker Studios. How did we do, JDB? Oh my god. How did we do? Agree with that.
Speaker 2:Well, then we didn't do the one thing. I I think we needed to include Joe Don Baker somewhere in there. Well,
Speaker 1:he doesn't play Felix, and he plays Jack in Tomorrow Never Dies, the American Felix isn't in the Jon Jon Jon Baker's not in this movie.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:But I think that's gonna do this for this episode. But, Jack, we'd love to know if we met your demand today. So you're gonna have to let us know. And those listening, hit us up. Do you agree with what we did?
Speaker 1:Disagree? What did we miss? What is something that you would like to see added to all the money in the world?
Speaker 2:We didn't specify, like I guess, you you kinda put a couple of them in there, but we didn't specify where the Martini shaking out stirred happens. How or when he's in the tuxedo. Oh, sure. What gun he shoots if if we stick with the the classic. The Same with the car.
Speaker 1:When he goes to Washington DC, First time he meets Sin, he goes to some gala in in DC. There's the tux.
Speaker 2:There's the drink.
Speaker 1:There's the drink.
Speaker 2:And Sin is actually there?
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Because he's like, I had to be in
Speaker 1:person for this one. Yeah. He's he's he and he's wearing Chuck Taylors.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So then then that gives us the tuxedo and gives us the drink. And Okay. And and that's where he could probably meet Bangs as well if she shows up ready to kill and
Speaker 2:he Sure.
Speaker 1:Stops her.
Speaker 2:Well so so our Bond girls, I I am I'm not a big enough fan. I'm a terrible fan. Go ahead. That that's that's my new mantra as of season six. Jim is a terrible fan.
Speaker 1:That's the well, we have the I'm a terrible Star Wars fan t shirt. Yep. Now we're gonna have a I'm a terrible James Bond
Speaker 2:fan t shirt. Are Bond girls always allies?
Speaker 1:No. There's okay. So traditionally, there's two Bond girls.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:There's a villain Bond girl and a a one for him to seduce. Usually, he turns the bad one. He he there's usually two two women he gets to hook
Speaker 2:up with.
Speaker 1:One is the quick hookup, and one's the the the pussy galore that he gets
Speaker 2:to hook
Speaker 1:up with. Xenia on the top in Goldeneye and then Natalia are the two Natalia. Natasha. Natalia in Goldeneye. Terry Hatcher and Michelle Yeo are the two in Tomorrow Never Dies.
Speaker 1:He doesn't get to hook up with Michelle Yeo. He only hooks up with Terry Hatcher.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Denise Richards and, the the two in World Is Not Enough. And, yes, there's the girl the woman on the horse and Vesper in Casino Royale.
Speaker 2:Well then so far. Then we're missing then we're missing a a second Bond
Speaker 1:A second Bond girl. Yeah. Yeah. Someone for him to hook up with at the at the gala. We're just putting it all there or or maybe the The United so Bon hooks up with two people in this movie.
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Speaker 1:And thank you to all of you listening. Jim, any thoughts over there? Any final thoughts?
Speaker 2:No. I'm trying to find like the proper place to put a second woman, a second Bond girl. Okay. But Bang's proper has taken up the sort of the role of both of them in this.
Speaker 1:The flight attendant in the plane?
Speaker 2:Yeah. But that that's not that's
Speaker 1:A brief encounter?
Speaker 2:Yeah. That's just a briefing. That's not a real Yeah. Bond girl situation.
Speaker 1:He could just flirt with a whole hell of a lot of women in this. Like the with the cafe at the cult opening, he can do a little flirting there. Sure. Oh, Moneypenny could be right he could have a flirtation with Moneypenny Uh-huh. Before he goes into Em's office.
Speaker 2:But that that's just flirtation. That's not that's not seduction.
Speaker 1:Okay. Okay. Well, I'm gonna leave Jim struggling with that. That's it for this episode. We'll be back again soon with another one of your demands to challenge ourselves to, I don't know, improve The world of cinema.
Speaker 1:I'm TC.
Speaker 2:I am repeater.
Speaker 1:Is this clashing? Is this clashing? With I
Speaker 2:was trying to do the I
Speaker 1:know, but this is clashing with the actual outro music and that that probably didn't it didn't it didn't blend well.
Speaker 2:That's okay. Alright. It blends as well as this does.