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Is there drugs in dragon boating or have you seen it? Drugs in dragon boating. Yes,
definitely there are.
So when they pulled you aside, did you pull the old shaggy and say, "It wasn't me"? What's it like being a paddler's partner?
It's a commitment.
Yeah. And you- It's a la- And it, it is a labor of love ...
it hits you in your hip pocket
as well.
It is a, it, it can be an expensive sport. The insurances can bring a club to its knees.
The constitution, you have to register a business. It's the insurances that kill you. I think why people and families drag their little ones along is
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Take whatever it is. Dougie, we are back for another episode
Of Paddles Ready.
Of- How,
how you
going? ... Paddles Ready. How's your week- A- How's
your week been?
Fantastic. Uh, few holidays with the family.
Yep. You been doing any paddling down at Tennyson?
A little bit.
Yep.
Little bit now and then.
Paddling or sweeping?
Uh, I paddled on the, on the, uh, paddlerg-
Mm-hmm ...
in my little gym at home.
Yep.
In the family gym.
Yep.
Speaking of family.
I know. It's, uh- It is a family sport, isn't it?
Well, why don't- Well- Why don't we talk about that then?
Okay. Well, it is a family sport. The sport itself, you know, we, we've s- we've touched on earlier, you know, back in the day, the kids go and paddle, their mom and, or Mom and Dad are paddling, then the kids wanna paddle, and then- Yeah
Nanna comes along, and Nanna's, like, part of the furniture, and she's... What's it like? I guess I watch it with my family. I, I don't paddle any m- you know, physically paddle anymore, but- Yeah ... I've been asked to jump in a few boats, and maybe I might jump back in the K1 just for a giggles or a surf ski, and we can maybe f- there's some footage for you, me jumping back on a surf ski.
Well, i- isn't there a, isn't there a, a, a K2?
Well, there c- there is a K2.
We could balance it out.
You and I jump in the K2 and get some footage on the K2. Now, that'd be funny. But what I wanted to chat about, or what you wanted to chat about more to say-
Yeah ...
the people at home, when we go away on the other side of the world or we're paddling or, um, commentating I wonder what it's like.
We see it firsthand. Wonder what it's like for our wives and our kids and being a paddler's, being a paddler's wife or being a paddler- Being a- ... paddler's husband ... a,
a, a paddling partner.
A paddling partner. I mean- That, look- Let's, let's talk about your- That, that, that's, that's- What's your experience?
Well, that, well, y- you know-
getting up at 4:00 in the morning to go through for 30 years doing stuff. Are you getting paid for this? Yeah. Uh, well, well, you know? Yeah. I'm not saying, "Are we getting paid for this?" But, you know, it, it is a big, like any sport. Yep. But I think why people and families drag their little ones along is because they love the s- the, the, the sport so much.
Yeah.
But there is turmoil. There is-
Oh, 100%.
There is a, and not even just at your local regattas, but you remember y- you being the life of a paddle partner.
Yep.
That, that, that's, that's the segment that we're talking about today. And please send us all those- Oh, yeah.
If you are a paddler's partner ...
if you've got a great paddling partner's story
that would be like for our takeouts. Yeah. And, um, we could, uh, we could put those up on. So let's have a chat. What's it like being a paddler's partner?
Katie. Hey, Katie. Um, and she came to Hong Kong. She didn't know that I was sort of dragon boating.
Yeah.
You know? And next minute I'm up at 5:00 in the morning.
Not coming home at 5:00.
Yeah. Well, I was coming home at 5:00 and then actually sometimes going straight to the, uh, the water. Yeah. That's another story in Stanley when we probably used to, to take things to a different level of, of, of, you know, the good old diggers in the day- The old days ... would have a drink and straight into it afterwards.
But it, it, it is a, i- it, it's, it's a commitment.
Yeah.
And
you f- It's a la- and it, it is a labor of love, you know? It's, um-
But it, it's not only that, Doug, it's in your, it hits you in your hip pocket as well.
It is a, it, it can be an expensive sport. You know, you've got airfares, especially if you want to travel around the world and, you know, you, you're- Not even
traveling around
the world
around the state, around Australia, over to New Zealand.
Okay. But- Let me, let me, let me- Yeah ... sorry for interjecting.
No.
As
I do.
Let's think about it. It's great if you're a personal, but just in Australia- Yep ... you want to paddle. You, you come and try, you rep sport, come and try. Then you actually, to actually paddle, you have to become a member of a club.
That inc- all-encompassing, it has insurances with whether you're Dragon Boat Australia, then your local, uh, provincial sides, probably all the same around the world where- Yeah ... where Dragon Boat Queensland, whether there's Dragon Boat Western Australia, um, South Australia, Victoria, New South Wales. You have to pay yearly memberships What do you get for those memberships?
The right to paddle, uh, insurance. Um, but then that says an individual. Yep Then say if you, I think we touched on this before about the evolution of a, of a paddler and a coach and where it goes. Say if you wanted to start your own club. Yep. What would it entail, Doug, to do that? Let me ask you that. What would, what would that entail?
Well, well, I can tell you what, where the biggest cost would be, and unfortunately it's in every sport in Australia, around the world nowadays, uh, especially in the Western world.
Hmm.
And starting a club, you know, you wouldn't think would be too hard to get that going. It's the insurances that kill you. The insurances can bring a club to its knees.
The constitution, you have to register a business.
All that, there's all that too. Hmm. And that's just like running, opening up any business. It's the insurances that can k- it can kill a club overnight.
But I think-
With the costs ... but,
but, but that might be where the federations, that's why we join the federations and they have the insurances.
Yep. Well, I know-
Well, a
boat. A, a boat. But- A boat's not cheap ... I know that, um, I've got a bit to do with some other sporting, you know, I'm not gonna divulge. We pay for our kids. We see a future in the youth of our sport. Yes. So when we go away, this is outside of drum, but it's, the registrations and the fees are paid out of our account.
Yeah.
We don't ask-
The club account.
Yes. We don't ask the kids to put their hand in their pocket to register and to paddle for free. Not paddle, but pay for a fee.
Well, that should be it. To,
and we, you know, there's a lot of fundraising, there's a lot of that.
Yeah.
But it can become expensive. You want to get, uh, little Johnny to go and play cricket or something, you see it all the time.
Now, um, I know there's clubs in cricket here that if the kanga cricket, so under 10s, sometimes it's very hard to, you know, keep an under 10 on a straight line at the best of times. But then, you know, you want them to come through the ranks, so you pay for them, you work out how to pay for them, you work out how you're gonna make it fun for them.
Hmm. So hopefully once they get a little bit older, they then come into the sport, they stay in the sport. Now this is not just cricket, this is other stuff as well. Well- So I'm a big advocate for these kids to have pe- their registration is paid for when they go paddling.
Well, that's interesting 'cause the topic we're talking about, as a paddler's partner, a lot of partners do have children.
Yep.
And they're bringing them on.
Yep. Um- So get them in a bloody boat.
Get them in a boat. 'Cause
Mum and Dad are already paying enough to get there.
And the federations are pretty, I'm pretty sure that... Look, I don't know in Australia, but if federations have money, they shouldn't have, they, they should be balancing it that starts off, you know, you don't have to save things for a rainy day.
You should be putting it into the youth of the sport. 100%.
It's like a P&C at the school.
Yes. You don't, yeah.
What, what principal at a school wants to have a million dollars in the bank. You put that money, that money's been raised by parents-
And,
yeah ... and the kids. You put it back into the school. No one's going to go, "Oh, look at this principal, she's amazing," or th- "This guy, he's amazing because he's got a million dollars in the bank."
Spend the money and put it back into the kids.
And that, that's it, and that's it, that's it. So moving-
But anyway, you can tell I'm a little bit emotional about that one ... moving back to that. Bit of, oh, well. Oh, not emotional, I just- No, but I, I, look ... I, I think it sucks that- You, you, you got to ... I think it sucks that, and we don't have a big, uh, junior junior like the Chinese do on that.
Oh, you're
talking in Queensland here.
Yeah. We don't, i- in Australia we don't have, and I, I think one of the reasons we don't have a big presence in the younger kids is because of the cost. So pay for it. I
can tell you about the cost of the last nationals for, for just our club. Over $30,000.
100%. I get the parents.
I, I'm, I'm all for that. I get, you know, the uni students and that saving their money. I get that. Yeah. But when it comes to the kids- Put your hands in your pocket ...
let
them pay ... and pay for them and let them paddle.
Well, maybe that's, that's it. The federat- or sorry, say, the, the, in, in Dragon Boat Queensland we go into the schools, you do it, and then you let them race for free.
Yep.
Let them, let them, let them race for free. Great. Obvious- obviously sign waivers. You, we, we, we don't want to touch on, on- No ... on not, not, not, uh, the bureaucracy of it all. But we, we want it safe. But let's get back to- We want people to... Let's, let's get back. So we were talking about- Paddlers'
partners
paddling partners We're gonna have a, a young guest who paddled at an elite level. Um, Deb and John Matthews, I think Deb from Sunshine Coast, um, amazing paddler, coach, one of the strongest clubs in Australia.
Yep.
Uh, Sunshine Coast Dragon Boat and Outrigger Club. They've had their children, James Alexander, from when he was little-
Yep
came through the junior ranks from Sonics to that, and he's still paddling.
Yeah.
It'd be interesting to, to, to get... And we're gonna get him on- Get his take ... and talk about an athlete's perception, not percept- an athlete's view of what it was like. So we'll continue this segment with a guest. But then
at
the same
time, watching mom and dad as well.
Watching mom and dad.
Yeah. And that's the beauty of our sport. You know? D- we, we can have our opinions, but being a paddler's partner, um, I've been quite lucky, um, with the whole thing, but I see others, you know, you're disappearing for five days at a time. You go overseas and you're disappearing for two weeks.
Well, well sometimes it is, isn't it? And, and the, and the preparation that, that they do and, and it is a commitment. You know, some of the paddlers go, um, paddling first, work second, family third.
Yeah. Well- You
know? Well, there's, there's another Sunshine Coast paddler- And then the fi- ... Ben Liv- big Benny L- Benny Livinson, Aurora as well.
Yeah. We're gonna get him on.
But then y- y- let's break down the cost of the sport. Uh, let's for argument's sake, Worlds. You know, I, I bought yours, you know, we bought our tickets to go to Taipei, 1,500 return.
US dollars.
Yeah. Now, you know, we're lucky because we're getting, you know, if you think. But, um, let's just say 1,500 return for the airfare.
You then got your hotel, we share, so that sh- that, uh, breaks down the cost a little bit. You've then got your food. Well,
u- use your expertise, Dougie. In this day and age, y- y- you're going to London.
Yes.
Right? There we go.
Yep.
So what's that costing you for a week in London? And then, and then what would you, what would you, what would you, what would you bank on?
What would you to, to survive? Would, would you budget for 100 US dollars a day just to live?
Yeah, I think so. You know, I'm going up there and, um, catching up. You know, we're doing the Paddles Ready. But there'll be no change out of $7,000.
Exactly. So to go to an
event- And in Taipei there'll be no change out of f- you know, there, there'd be no change out of five grand.
Yeah.
Um, now you've got a husband and wife going. There's 10K- Yes ... straight off the bat. You take the little one with you.
Mm-hmm.
The, the, there's 13K. Well, there,
well, there's the support. Remember in Brandenburg, Germany? Yep. We, we watched, um, the two young Auroras, and then in the, in the stands, we, we- The mum and dad were there
we, the mum and dad, and they've been supporting, and with, with their kid.
Yep.
So they, they had six over there.
Yeah. That's it. So it's, it's, it's not
a cheap- The paddling life ... it's not
a cheap sport. The
paddling partner's li- the Paddles Ready paddle partner life.
Yeah, exactly. And it's, you know, but some-
Please send in your stories that- Sometimes you have- Yeah, there, there must be some amazing ones, and hopefully there's no bad ones.
No. But sometimes, you know, in life you want to do nice things. You work hard. You know, you, you, you, you work to live. I think in dragon boating, if you want to go paddling, you've got to work bloody hard to go paddling.
As Mary says, paddling for life.
Yeah, paddling for life. And it's a choice. You know, no one's there- It is a
choice
you know, um, it's a privilege. It's definitely a privilege to be part of your sport and to travel around the world, and the o- the opportunities that are given to you, but it is a choice. Um, and we don't dictate- Well, well that's it ... FAA's and hot and all that. But- But I just wanted people to, it, it's, it can be rough on the partners sometimes.
Absolutely. Because we're traveling around the world paddling.
Well, so, so that's it. So while you're tuning in and, and you're listening in your car, or you're at work with your headphones in, or you're watching us, you know what people have been saying is that they're watching us. I'm, I'm getting photographs saying pictures of us on their TV for YouTube- Oh,
so-
which go, but-
What about the one that was on the car? They were just stuck in traffic.
I know. I
don't know if that's safe, guys. I really
don't. On, on, on, on the, on the, on the, on the big screen. But there must be so many stories and so many heartfelt moments of families, and then, 'cause I personally know the, uh, scrutinized decisions of where, where people are going.
You're going where?
Yes.
You're going when? Why? What's in it for me?
I'm c- I'm cringing. You know?
We're lucky. We- we're, we're the paddling, but, like, thanks IDBF, we love commentating and we love being the voice. Yeah. But for the paddlers out there, and, and, and as you said, we're gonna see so many of them in the next Club Crew Worlds in Taiwan.
You're gonna see people, we see them for every- everywhere we go. But, um, yeah, the, the, the paddling partner's life and, and, and it is a commitment. And- And we do
love you.
Yeah, absolutely. We, we do. We love our partners. And I'm sure there's been, um, people have met paddling and, and created lifelong- Yeah
partnerships. I, I didn't even think of
that.
And probably people have parted ways-
Yes ...
um, with, uh, with, uh, with paddling stories as well. So look, Dougie, it's, um, could be a sharp, short.
Yeah, no, but it's always, it's good. Bring the partners into it. Sometimes you get a bit of a, uh, knock around a bit, but, uh, they know- I think
mo-
they know
we love it ...
mo- mo- most of the time they'll probably be sharing this to their partners saying, "See? See? They get it." They get- They get it. We get it.
But it's
def- The partners, you're the best people in the world ...
but it's definitely not lost on us that it can be an expensive sport if you want, and it's a choice, if you wanna go overseas and jump on the tour.
Because I tell you what, when you do, it's, there's so much fun.
Oh.
It's worth every cent. So Doug. Yes.
Just back to what you were talking about Continuing on that before we wrap this up, to start a club, you've, you can't just paddle in nothing, a piece of wood.
No, you can't.
Boats.
But then you need, you need probably 20 people at least-
Yeah
to get one b- to be in a small boat. Yes. Because people don't turn up to training, people can't turn up to
anything. Well, you need 18 to form a club.
There you go. So you know, it's a, uh, it's a commitment.
And
then a boat's
gonna cost you-
What's a boat worth nowadays? ...
12, 15 grand. But I'm pretty sure if you're starting up a new club- You get subsidies
and, and we want new clubs to start up, uh, there's grants. Yeah. There's grants in, in, in probably, uh, I don't know the rest of the world, but I know there's government grants in Australia.
Yep.
Um, there's the gaming grants and, and, and different government grants for that.
Yep.
Um, that goes back into, to social, um, community sports.
Yep.
But there's the paddles, uh, there's equipment, there's starting equipment, there's buoys, there's where do you house the boat?
Yeah, yeah. Well, that's the big thing.
Like, it, it is, it, even though it's not too expensive for the individual. It can be when it grows. Well,
and that comes down to a choice, doesn't it?
Comes down to a choice whether you go, you travel or you, uh, stay at home and... But for anyone coming, anyone who's starting in the sport, come traveling, come touring. It's good fun.
Come touring, absolutely. Get your paddles ready. Well look, we, there's gonna be big news coming up with what's happening with our growth and memberships that- Yep
uh, in the coming years we wanna, we-
And hopefully we can make it a little bit easier and more cost-effective. We'll have a paddles,
we'll
have
a paddles ready grant.
Yeah. There we go. Well, listen, that was good, Nick. I just, we, we've brought the wives in on it, and, um, what they think. The
partners. The partners, the husbands.
The children. The children.
The generations. It was, uh, a bit of a mismatch that one, but, uh, it was good fun. No, it's
good. You sometimes you just gotta talk about stuff, you know?
I mean, plenty of it is talked about when you're at home and you're in front of a TV. Mm. Where are you off to and how much is this costing and- Yeah.
it's, it- Yeah, yeah, yeah ... that's probably the biggest thing is the financial burden.
Yeah. So if you see Dougie just in an event by himself, you'll know why. Well,
exactly. And if I'm just like in a pair of boardies that are ripped, you know I can't get back home.
That's it.
All right, Hando. Thank you for that.
That's it. I'm
Dougie. I'm Hando.
And we are- And we are paddles ready
Okay. We are 60 Seconds with Dougie. I'm with Johnny, and Johnny, what club are you from? Typhoons
Dragon Boat Club from Hong Kong.
Worst excuse for missing training?
Oh my goodness. The list is so long. I get so many of them, I can't share some of
them. Downwind or grind?
Grind.
Early morning training or sleep-ins?
Early.
What's more important, fitness or technique?
Technique.
Carbon fibre or wooden paddle?
Carbon.
Coffee before or after training?
Before, during, and after.
Biggest talker on your boat?
Me.
Sprint or distance?
Both.
Beers or lemonade on a Sunday afternoon?
Lemonade.
Favorite regatta you have competed in?
Hong Kong International.
One tip that makes someone a better paddler?
Just follow the person in front of you.
And Johnny, complete this sentence: If I wasn't a paddler, I'd be...?
Lost.
There we go. That's Johnny from Hong Kong Typhoon.
How are you, Hando? It just, just keeps getting better and better and better. But so where are we- Well, it's Hando's Hot Take ... where are we now?
Oh. Hando's Hot Take.
Is it that already?
Already.
Already. Goodness me. I've
actually gone pretty easy on you the last couple weeks.
Ah.
I'm gonna throw a cat among the pigeons today.
Oh, really? Is
it- I just wanna get your thoughts. I mean, you've been around the sport- Is it,
is it, don- is it the gender debate? It's not the
gender
debate.
Okay. No.
No, no, no. No, it's not the gender debate. I mean, we, we can have that debate later on. That, that's fine. Mate, we are pretty close to, you know, we're, we're...
I, I'd like to think we're a semi-professional sport. Yeah. There's a lot of guys out there. We, we speak to, uh, a lot of sponsored paddlers You've been around for, you know, 30, 35 years now. You've been in the teams, you've been on the coalface, you've been in the club rooms. Mate, is there drugs in dragon boating, or have you seen it?
Drugs in dragon boating? Geez, they'd go faster, wouldn't they? Well- Um, as in performance-enhancing. Uh, do they test? Absolutely. So- Not at a,
not at a local level.
No. So this is for, for many of our- Well, so they, they- ... viewers, uh, this will be interesting. I was, I wanted to ask you a question. Have you known anyone who has tested positive to drugs?
Yeah.
Well, well, that, um, I don't know the fact. I personally have been tested.
Have you?
At a world championships. Um, you know, you look at, you look at some of the teams and they go, "They- they're, they've been on something a little bit more than the norm."
Yeah. You, you haven't, you haven't had a double cappuccino before you paddle type stuff?
Uh, no, no. I've got enough energy as there is, ADHD child apparently. Yeah. But, but, uh, 2016, I think it was two of my team, and I was the sweep, you know? And you
still got tested.
I s- still got, 'cause it's random, and, and- Do
they test the whole team or just
pull- No ...
a few of you out?
No. You, you just, just, you two, two of the team members.
And, and that happens at, uh, at i- in, in the world, in the club crews, definitely happens. Nations Cup definitely happens. And I'm pretty sure at Australian championships possibly hap- obviously it's expensive. Mm. 'Cause you've got the WADA, which is the, the governing sport, you know. Um, and performance-enhancing drugs, like, you know, i- i- i- we're not gonna tap into the, uh, recreational side, 'cause I'm sure at the festivals around the world that's, that's another, that's another bit.
No, no. I'm not worried about, I'm, I'm talking about the performance-enhancing. So when they pull you out, urine test?
You're, you're taken by a member of the, the, the committee, uh, and, and they take you, they escort you. You don't know you've been, uh, they- And
they stand with you
right at the door too? Yep. They take you.
You have to, you have to, uh, do a urinal test.
Yep. Um- And how long does that take to come? Is that just a swab and, or- I think it- ... gets sent away, or?
Yeah, I think it comes back pretty, pretty, pretty quick. But, but it tests you. Like, what a great professional sport we are that we have that. Yep. Because you don't, you don't want it.
Well, you don't want it. You don't want drugs in sport. No,
no.
You don't want it, you don't need it. And, uh, but yes, definitely there are.
So there's the leadership on the front foot. Let's, and they're getting there to the big regattas and, uh- Yeah, yeah ... they're testing. Well,
yeah. But, a- and, and again I suppose it's like anything that the athletes have to be careful because like swimmers or, or football players or if they've got an injury and they go to, um, we're coming up to a world titles and I've done my knee or my calf and I've, I've, I'm, I've...
You've got to be... The, the IDBF have their, their list of what you can and can't take. Yep. Absolutely. So you athletes out there, you have to be very, very careful. So you have to,
a- as, as an athlete-
Yes ...
y- in dragon boat, I know the swimmers
and- Can, can you imagine that? You
need to be over this
You've trained that for six months- Yeah
for a club crew. You get there-
Yep ...
and there's education.
Yes.
That m- mightn't have been trans or, or, or, or, or educated or, or communicated down the line. Yeah. And you've got a paddler that's taken something and you, and you win a world title.
And you get it ripped off you, don't you?
And you get it taken off you.
Can you imagine that?
So it
does- Does anyone know that that's happened?
Yeah, I'd like, I'd love to know if a dragon boat team has been done.
Yeah.
It seems surreal. It doesn't seem like in our sport. It's
the ethics committee, the, the, the, the- But they're, they're, they're
obviously there for a
reason. You, you gotta ke- look, and I think it keeps the honest most like- Yeah, of course
like in life, right? It's like- Drink driving ... 99.9,
99.9% of us do the-
You, you're keeping the honest
people honest ... yeah, 99.9% of people do the right thing.
But, but there might be y-
you, you- But some of these cough mixtures, a, a Ventolin, something like that, you never know Yeah, right. You, you, you,
mm.
It, like you said, it all comes down to education and training.
A- And that starts at the top ...
a- but, and you do that in Australia. You have to get, uh, I go the online courses that you have to get even for a sweep.
Yeah.
You have to do these courses and, and, and understand w- what, what you're getting yourself in for. Yeah. And, and as a paddler, the paddler's oath.
Yeah.
What, what, what, what they do, and they've got to fol- they've got to follow the international guidelines, um, whether it's WADA or w- w- whatever, whatever's on the banned substance list- Yeah
you cannot use. So be careful- So for the paddler- ...
paddlers ... yeah, so for the paddlers out there, you, you gotta know what you, you gotta know what you're taking. Go on
your local federations. Go onto the
IDBF. It's all there. And if, if, if you have an injury, if you have an injury, know what the physician, the doctor, the physio, know what they're putting into your body- Yeah, uh, because-
because you could be the reason, the difference between last place or a gold medal.
Yeah, and, and, and, and a lot of it is it's harmless because you're just taking it to, to get better.
That's it. Yeah.
And, and with what they've got technologic- or sorry, the advancements that they have A lot of the things, why, why wouldn't people wanna try and take something that's gonna make them feel better?
And there's a lot of natural ones, but there's obviously stuff that's on, on that ban list. So great takeout.
Takeout, hot take.
Go, go on your federation's list and-
And know, yeah ...
on the banned substances list or whatever. Just, just learn. The world, whatever. I, yeah, I'll have to, I'll have to.
So just as a parting, so when they pulled you aside, did you pull the old shaggy and say, "It wasn't me"?
No, no, I, I was fine.
Okay. All right, Hando, thank you. Hot take. Uh, enjoy the rest of your week. Thanks, mate. See ya. This is the first one that we're signing off where people can now become members of the show. Can you believe it? I know. And get,
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