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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Hullhouse. One of my greatest concerns of the future is not necessarily a communist overthrow here in America, though I think we're kind of well past that, unfortunately. But it's actually something that people refer to as a technocratic state or technocracy. Basically, meaning that we, the people, will be ruled by technology and that we will be put into some sort of digital prison, similar to what's happening in China right now, where you have social credit scores, monitoring of everything, and where we really give up all of our freedoms to some sort of invisible AI massive massive data gathering operation that is controlling every aspect of our lives.
Seth Holehouse:Right? In my opinion, it goes against the ideals that our country was founded upon, namely the constitution. So the news right now, though, is about this company called Palantir. Now I'll be getting into a lot of the details behind Palantir and Peter Thiel in my interview today with doctor David Martin, but I wanna just highlight a little bit about what recently happened and why it's caused so much of an outroar. So here is an article I'll bring up.
Seth Holehouse:This is on Zero Hedge, talking about, basically, the Trump admin tasks Palantir with expanding US surveillance state. So it says, The specter of artificial intelligence has cast its shadow over humanity, haunting it with nightmares of a dystopian hellscape under the oppression of a technocratic elite, which may be too formidable to ever defeat. It continues down here. Says, with the near certainty that AI integration will inevitably strengthen the iron fisted grip government has over its people, the end game of that tectocratic revolution ultimately looks as if it will arrive at tyranny. The weight of that proverbial sirs proverbial sword of Damasolise hanging over the heads of America has become ever more apparent following a New York Times report that the Trump administration has tapped Palantir Technologies to use its AI platforms to facilitate the integration of databases across disparate federal agencies.
Seth Holehouse:In doing so, the federal government is poised to build a national database capable of wielding unparalleled surveillance powers over American citizens. So that sums up relatively well, basically, that as I understand it, that, you know, Palantir will be building some sort of centralized database using AI to pull in all the different data points of the American people, you and I. We're talking bank accounts, tax history, social media. It's really a digital system for tracking everything about us as far as I can understand. And there's been, rightfully so, a lot of uproar about this.
Seth Holehouse:And this particular image right here is the one that has been shared. You see it everywhere on x right now. Trump taps Palantir to create a master database on every American. Now this brings up a lot of questions. Is this you know, is there any potential this is gonna be used for good things, or is this purely something we should be frightened of?
Seth Holehouse:What is the end goal of this? How does this tie into the you know, Trump's goals of restoring the the founding values of America? How does it relate to big tech in Silicon Valley? And so my guest today, doctor David Martin and I, we're gonna be diving deep into what is Palantir? How does it tie into the, Alpha agencies?
Seth Holehouse:Looking at Silicon Valley even, which is gonna be this is gonna be some mind blowing information about going back into the origins of Silicon Valley and asking the question, well, is Silicon Valley a front for dark military operations? Are people like Mark Zuckerberg or, any number of these kind of famous tech people that create these magnificent technologies in their garages, are they just, you know, kind of front people for government technologies being built to surveil and ultimately control us? Now in addition to talking about Palantir and the surveillance state and everything surrounding that, we're also gonna be highlighting a very disturbing report that ties into all this. So I'm pull it up for you. And, again, we'll be going to in detail in today's show.
Seth Holehouse:So here's the file. It's the national blueprint for biodefense. So if you remember going into COVID when COVID first happened and then event two zero one, there's a lot of discussion, especially among the the kind of more truth channels, talking about event two zero one, which is a simulation of what happened if a COVID, you know, virus, you know, hit Amer you know, hit the whole world, what would happen? And it was really this giant war gaming scenario for what would happen, and we saw that it actually played out. Well, so this is frightening.
Seth Holehouse:So David Martin, who uses technology to scour the Internet and search for things like this, has been the first person I've seen bring this to light. And this report goes into a biological attack happening on July 4 in 02/2025, so about a month from now, that basically kicks off you know, it talks about killing a couple hundred thousand Americans and how this is the beginning of this massive disease and spreads, you know, wiping out livestock, and it's a pretty frightening scenario. And so what David and I will be kinda talking about today is merging the ideas and the, concepts behind big tech, Silicon Valley, government ties, technocracy, how that ties into Palantir, what's happening under Trump, the mRNA platform, and how that then ties into the potential of this event, right, this scenario, where we're gonna have another health scare. We're already seeing it too. We're seeing, now discussions of a new COVID strain coming from China, and health officials are recommending masking.
Seth Holehouse:And so it's just this question of, like, is this a pandemic two point o that we're entering into? What do we do about it? Who's behind it? And so much more. And so if you're familiar with with doctor David Martin, he's someone that brings receipts.
Seth Holehouse:And what he's gonna do is help us just sort through all this information and paint the picture of what's really going on, but also help us to understand what we can do to escape it, and how we can actually rise above it as, humans created in God's image. So this is gonna be a pretty important conversation. If if you're watching or listening, I recommend, if you feel compelled to, to share this with your friends and family. Because as David will point out in our discussion, the more people that know about this, the more power we have to not make it happen. So we have to get this information out, which is why I'm doing this show.
Seth Holehouse:So just a few quick notes before we jump in, though. If you're watching on Rumble or any platform where you can actually like a video, please do so. Hit the thumbs up and the like button helps us to reach more people. Also wanna remind you that every show that I do is done as a podcast as well. So if you like to listen instead of watch, just go to your favorite podcast app like Spotify, Apple Podcasts, search for Man in America, and you can listen to the show on there.
Seth Holehouse:Alright. Let's go ahead and dive right into this interview with doctor David Martin. Doctor David Martin, it is such a pleasure to have you back on the show. It's it's been too long since we did show together.
Dr. David Martin:Seth, for some reason, every time we do, we seem to touch the lives of at least a million or so people. So here we go again.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah, dude, you're right.
Dr. David Martin:One this one is is of particular and noteworthy interest. So thank you for having me back. I always am honored to spend time with you. I do think that the nature of our conversations brings out some of the best of humanity. I think, you know, I've had I've had some wonderful people like Patrick Gintempo and a few others, Mickey Willis, who who have the space and the capacity to hold open a broad conversation, and I find my conversations with you to be absolutely delightful.
Dr. David Martin:I I leave them feeling better about life. So there you go.
Seth Holehouse:Well, good. Well, even though we're we're hitting on some pretty dark topics today, I'm sure that towards the end, we're gonna round it out so that for people that are watching, it's like, just stick through it. Right? It's like it's like the movie where everything goes wrong, but the very end, the hero's journey, there's something positive. So we gotta we gotta stick stick to the course.
Dr. David Martin:We even redefine what the hero's journey is.
Seth Holehouse:Here we go.
Dr. David Martin:Let's do it.
Seth Holehouse:So it's interesting because, you know, we we've been going back and forth with our schedules for quite some time, and and I didn't pick this particular date for the interview based upon, hey. Something big happened in the news, and I wanna get you to come on and talk about it. It just so happens that we coincide with a few big things happening right now. One of which is the recent announcement about Palantir, which Yeah. You know all too much about.
Seth Holehouse:And then the other is the actually, I'll pull it up, which we'll get into, the national blueprint for for biodefense talking basically, it's an event two zero one scenario about a some sort of biological attack on July fourth of twenty twenty five. So this is something that is literally a month away, which is obviously important for us to talk about. So I'll hand it to you, and and wherever you wanna start, I'll just follow.
Dr. David Martin:Well, in my book, CUDA 12, Seth, I I talk about a business plan slash social engineering exercise, which is referred to as disruption. And the reason I talk about disruption is because that pays homage to the framework that was adopted many, many years ago by a group of people who decided that they wanted through commercial and subterfuge interests to find a way to dislodge what we think of as democratic systems, what we think of as democracies, liberties, civil liberties, and so forth. And the idea was to create a series of event horizons that was modified off of the book that was written by Lee Clough. Many people don't know, but Lee Clough, who was the, significant influence behind the marketing and advertising agency, Shyatt Day, which was and still remains, I believe, and it certainly was for a long time, the market face, the front door of Apple, Lee Clough and Steve Jobs had come up with this idea of disruption as a approach that would allow people to achieve large scale social transformation, where by virtue of very subtle imaging, you could get the public to embrace a thing, which was inherently dissonant with the ideas that were being discussed, but they did it in a very cunning way.
Dr. David Martin:If you think about something as simple as the case example of this, the iPhone or the iPod or the iPad, ironically was built around creating a consensus illusion where everybody was losing their identity. It's funny that they actually had the eye as a little eye. So so they were taking this sense of identity and and putting it into, you're missing out if you're not exactly like everybody else. Think about how funny and ironic and tragic it is that you
Seth Holehouse:have I'll put it real quickly. Sorry. This is so this is for people who don't know Lee Clown, which I used to be in in do a lot of work in advertising. I went to in design school. He was one of, like, the legends of design, and he was one of the people he was the driver behind.
Seth Holehouse:If you'll remember, these were the original iPod ads. What's interesting, though, is that they were just a silhouette. It was a faceless person Yes. Doing this. Right?
Seth Holehouse:These these original ads. Sorry to interrupt you, but
Dr. David Martin:I wanted to add that. Was the whole point was to create this impulse that says, I have to have what is going to erase the I. I mean, it it's it's somewhat funny. It's almost the devil's proposition to Jesus. If you just bow the knee, I'll give you the kingdoms of the world, but you forget that if you bow the knee, you're no longer you.
Dr. David Martin:So, you know but anyhow, Lee Clough was very instrumental in this, by the way, and so credit where credit is due. Lee Clough was part of this campaign and and very famously, most people don't know, but he was instrumental in picking the what would become president Obama through a series of marketing tests, where hope and change posters included the faces and likenesses of many, many, many different candidates. And through market tests, president Obama was ultimately selected as the most electable canvas upon which others could paint and others could influence. But that work that is almost an homage to a an Andy Warhol like look had back in the pre Obama voting era, had a number of different possible faces that were going to be run. And so it's fascinating as as I mentioned in the book.
Dr. David Martin:You know, Peter Thiel was front and center in all of those efforts. And and the the character that he plays in this entire exercise is a character that understands what was originally done, and this goes back in history, what was originally done by a series of life insurance companies, companies like Swiss Re and Munich Re and others, who had been collecting vast amounts of data. And if you think about this, Seth, most people don't understand what we currently are supposed to fear as this modern usurpation of our individual identity is actually what the life insurance companies have been doing since life insurance. What they're doing is tracking behaviors. They're tracking patterns.
Dr. David Martin:They're tracking individual information. They're tracking things like health records. I mean, how many people before a life insurance policy wound up having to do a physical? And where do you think that data went? That went to these vaults of information, largely in Zurich and other parts of Switzerland, and in Bermuda, where people would sit and analyze the life profiles and ultimately death profiles and death actuarial plans for a vast number of people.
Dr. David Martin:And so we're we're talking about it now because there's a currency to this conversation. But this has been going on for over twenty five years, where large data, largely around personal profiles of how people live, how they interact, how they both, you know, either support endanger their life. All this kind of stuff has been collected for a long time, and there once upon a time was a company called SAIC.
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Dr. David Martin:SAIC, for those of you who don't know, created things like the Chexas system, Huntington Bank shares that had the ability to track every single check cash between every single party. Did you hear what I just said? And this, by the way, years before anybody knew that this was happening, they also had a system called SABRE, and SABRE was the uniform program that allowed for people to track every airplane ticket that someone purchased, every hotel stay, all of the information, which before we had things like Airbnb and before we had things like Travelocity, Sabre was this unifying data source that tracked the movement of everyone on the planet. And these are all things, Seth, that are 20 plus years old. And and the vast majority of people sit there going, oh, no.
Dr. David Martin:This is a new thing. AI is doing this. Computers are doing this. No. This has been going on for a long time.
Dr. David Martin:And in my book, I lay out all of the reasons why this was so critical. But the idea was that we need to get the human race to stop seeing itself as sovereign. We need to take this beautiful manifestation of life called humanity, and we need to crunch it down into a very small packet of consumption to extinction oriented events. You are not a person. You are a consumer until you die.
Dr. David Martin:And the life insurance, the SAICs of the world, the the banking systems of the world, all of these systems were built to build a massive network information set, which would then be used to train information and giant surprise companies like Oracle founded by Larry Ellison, but most people don't know that that came out of the classified CIA project, which was also called Oracle at the Ampex Corporation. People don't know that Oracle, every database that was ever built, was a front door data harvesting mechanism for the backdoor of figuring out the map of humanity. And just like we saw with SAIC, just like we saw with Oracle, Palantir, a company that very, very, very few people have ever really examined. And that in part because Peter Thiel, as a phenomenal operator, is a savant when it comes to intellect. He is truly a remarkable mind.
Dr. David Martin:And kind of like Elon Musk, only much more private, much more measured, Peter Thiel is savant to the level of expediency. And what that means in my definition is that in the interest of what makes sense to him, he becomes on the edge of amoral. And I am very precise to say amoral, not immoral, and we can argue whether the things he's doing is immoral. I'm not making that argument right now. I'm saying that expediency becomes the only thing that matters.
Dr. David Martin:And so giant surprise to all the people who were wildly enthusiastic about Trump being elected, what you didn't see was the size of the checks Peter Thiel wrote, not only to get Trump elected, but to make JD Vance in the first place. JD Vance is an unknown, and he is a canvas of Peter Thiel's. He was paid for by Peter Thiel. Peter Thiel was extremely motivated around making him the phenomenon that he was in politics. And lo and behold, when it came time to pick a vice president, I can assure you Donald Trump did not make that choice.
Dr. David Martin:He didn't. He was handed who the vice president was going to be. So is it a wonder that during COVID, the company that was behind so many of the surveillance programs and the company that was behind so many of the monitoring systems to figure out whether people were going to take the shot or were going to comply with orders or were gonna do any of those things, behind those were, that's right, Palantir. Government contracts left, right, and center. And then is it any surprise that since Trump has taken office, Palantir has received more government contracts than probably by growth anybody else in terms of any particular industry player.
Dr. David Martin:Now, we can sit here and pretend like all of that just happens to be coincident. But here comes the problem. This was an architecture set in motion back in 1998. You heard the date correctly.
Seth Holehouse:'98.
Dr. David Martin:'90 '8.
Seth Holehouse:Well, one thing I'll throw out just quickly in terms of date is as I pulled up I didn't quickly see you may not have seen it, but this right here is a, a CIA document. This will go back to 1975 for project Oracle
Dr. David Martin:Yep.
Seth Holehouse:Where it discusses the, obviously, some of it is redacted, but the design of the Oracle mass storage system. Yep. Storage control processors through transport. You know, basically, you can see it's a massive tech project for for storing and harvesting data, and this is 1975.
Dr. David Martin:Yeah. This is why this is why I always love for when people tell me that that, you know, the Silicon Valley phenomenon was somehow this brilliant bunch of guys sitting in garages. Nothing could be more nonsensical and distant from truth. This was covert operations that were masked under the guise in the case of Ampex Corporation to do a number of things, which were social behavior monitoring. Most people don't know that the Ampex Corporation also was the inventor allegedly of Dolby surround sound.
Dr. David Martin:Now everybody loves to have Dolby surround sound in their house, but very few people understand that that was an acoustic program for behavior modification.
Seth Holehouse:Just sit with that. Hold on. So Dolby. Right? Like, I've got Dolby, you know, Dolby five point one, six point one.
Dr. David Martin:Yeah. There you go.
Seth Holehouse:So that that was run by so Ampex. Right? Data which is a data systems corporation. So you're saying that Dolby was part of a behavior modification program. It wasn't just, hey.
Seth Holehouse:Let's let's build a great sound system for the IMAX theaters.
Dr. David Martin:Ampex Corporation was Operation Paperclips recipient. A. M. Pontiov was the guy who harvested all of the German engineers as the reprisals for the second World War. Ampex Corporation has always been a front for dark ops that were social engineering dark ops and surveillance and all this kind of stuff.
Dr. David Martin:So giant shock that you have a behavior modification acoustic system, which is in everybody's home, so that that's right. We can have our minds altered by virtue of the sound that we have both explicitly, and more importantly, the implicit frequencies in those sounds. And if you go back and look at the early Ampex engineering, you see that most of them come out of covert ops for mind control. So there's those little tiny details that people don't like to talk about. And the reason we need to go into this history, Seth, is is the baton handoff between these covert operators is seamless, because no one bothers to point this out.
Dr. David Martin:We don't we don't bother to look. When we get an Dolby surround sound system, we celebrate it. We go, oh my gosh. Great sound, and it feels like I'm in the theater where I'm feeling the vibration of the jet engines when I play Top Gun. Well, you are feeling that, and you're also getting a lot of other stuff.
Dr. David Martin:But but what we're not understanding is this disruption. Remember, this is the Steve Jobs phenom that that has truly ruled the world for the last two decades. If you go back and look at all of that stuff and you go back and ask the question, what was going on with Steve Jobs and Robert Friedland? The name nobody talks about. Robert Friedland, also known as toxic Bob in some headlines, one of the greatest conflict metals proliferators on the planet.
Dr. David Martin:Why were they together at an ashram in India? Why were they doing the things that they were doing, which ultimately gave rise to the preeminence of Apple? These questions are questions we don't even bother asking, and we sit there pretending like an event horizon, like what is being proposed for 07/04/2025 is a giant surprise. The answer is it's not a surprise. It's not even remotely interesting from the standpoint of this is yet another time when the public has been hypnotized into this comatose state of believing, yeah, we had the COVID thing, I'm sure we're done with that.
Dr. David Martin:They're not going to do that again. Well, remember they did it with anthrax in 02/2001, And we didn't learn. And then they did it with bird flu, and then they did it with MERS, and then they did it with, oh, that's right, SARS two point o. And and here's the problem. The problem is people think that SARS is now and COVID is is now kind of this thing in the past, but here comes the little nasty secret.
Dr. David Martin:If you go back to Austrian philosopher von Hayek, who made a very important observation that the abuse of public health as the means of terrifying a population becomes a principal agency of suspending liberties that ultimately never are recovered. So this is a you know, you create a little inch of the problem, and you take a mile, and then you create another inch, and you take another mile. And, well, they are going to tell us that we're not social distancing, so things are better now, and we're not masking. So things are better now. The fact of the matter is every one of these things is a power grab.
Dr. David Martin:Every one of these things is an ability to suppress liberty more and more and more. And we sit back in this stunned mullet silence of going, clearly, they're not gonna do it again. Well, bad news for everybody. Tom Ridge, that's right. The secretary of homeland security, when it was first established under the Bush administration, collaborated with a group of people to come up with a scenario in which they are calling for, and listen carefully to what I'm gonna say, the death of 02/14464 Americans on 07/04/2025.
Dr. David Martin:In one month from today, there is a plan that involves the murder of 280,000 Americans on a single day. And the best part of it is they're gonna blame a foreign actor for it, except for a tiny little problem. Yeah. If you hop down to page nine of that national blueprint for biodefense, Seth, and highlight the first major paragraph under the US House of Representatives. Let's let's go ahead for the sake of everybody on here, make sure that we read it.
Dr. David Martin:We were attacked, and we don't know who did the attack. But the infectious agent they used killed two hundred and eighty thousand Americans and infected at least four hundred thousand throughout the country on a single day, in addition to two hundred thousand dead and eight hundred thousand sickened animals. Now if you scroll up for a moment, Seth, and keep going until I tell you to stop, just keep scrolling. Scroll up, scroll up, scroll up. What you're going to find when you get to the this page oh, there you go.
Dr. David Martin:Look at ex officio members. If you look at the ex officio members of this particular committee, there are two names that I wanna call your attention to. Gerald w Parker and George Post. Those names are names that people should be familiar with, but they are not. These are veterinary scientists and gain of function scientists who have done an enormous amount of work in a variety of pathogens.
Dr. David Martin:George Post famously was very much involved in Arizona contribution to the gain of function research that brought us COVID nineteen and all of those kinds of things. And here we have the same actors. In this case, we have the ability to go into their research and find out what kind of pathogen would go after humans and animals on the same day. How how do we figure out what that is? And it turns out that there are a bunch of options.
Dr. David Martin:Nipah virus is what they refer to in this scenario, but equine encephalitis, which is a huge, huge, huge gain of function problem, is something that that these guys have been familiar with. And there are several other pathogens that these guys have been working with. And the fact is that they're telling us that on July 4, on the celebration of the the two hundred and forty ninth year of America in its formation, we are going to allegedly have a biological weapons attack. And do you realize, Seth, that not a single person in law enforcement, not a single person in the White House, not Bobby Kennedy at HHS, not a a Tulsi Gabbard at the DNI, not a single person is actually taking an action to interdict the actors that I'm talking about. This is not a problem that happened during the Biden nonpresidency.
Dr. David Martin:This is a a thing that is a statement of intent to once again take advantage of human dynamics So Where we are going to appeal to fear, we're going to appeal to this notion that somebody out there attacked us, where we know already who the actors are, we have a high probability of knowing what they're gonna say the pathogen was. And remember, these are not pathogens. These are weapons deployed against humanity. And as I've said many times, we can go back and look at the likely delivery mechanisms, which are rocket propelled grenades that had a blast resistant pathogen concussive devices that allow a pathogen to be spread over a stadium, over a park, over any one of a mass gathering event, where you wouldn't know the difference between a firework going off and a pathogen ballistic device spreading toxins across a crowd. In fact, if I were going to do it, I would actually do it during the firework celebrations.
Dr. David Martin:So so we know that this is actually a fully planned, fully baked, like you said, event two zero one kind of thing. And yours truly is the only one that started talking about it. And, unfortunately, now this is the third show where there's been a conversation about this particular topic.
Seth Holehouse:Alright. So there's a lot to unpack here. I I wanna I'm gonna bookmark the discussion I wanna have shortly about big tech and and Silicon Valley, because that's a whole, like, that's a whole can of worms. That's a Pandora's box. Right?
Seth Holehouse:But just focusing on the I'll pull this document. So, basically, this document right here is a similar to event two zero one was a scenario. Right? Where they they overwent they they did a a kind of war gaming scenario of this biological attack. Now I wanna I just wanna read that particular paragraph, because now that you mentioned that the pathogens could be spread, that they're blast resistant, so you could have a firework that's preloaded with pathogens Yep.
Seth Holehouse:That would be released to a large crowd gathering. I I just wanna look at this really quickly, just read this particular paragraph, which you highlighted earlier. The chair says, I call this first hearing of the joint inquiry to order. Nine weeks ago, some nation or terrorist group, we still don't know who, attacked the nation's capital and other US cities with biological weapons as we celebrated Independence Day. The infectious agent they used killed at least two hundred and eighty thousand Americans and infected at least four hundred thousand throughout the country in a single day, in addition to the two hundred thousand dead and eight hundred thousand sickened animals.
Seth Holehouse:These numbers will increase as the disease spreads. Many of our own colleagues and staff here in congress fell ill and died. Coordinated attacks in allied nations in the days that followed killed tens of thousands more. So continue, actually. So we are now hearing that the terrorists conducted smaller scale attacks in American cities and localities prior to the July 4 incidents to test our defense and gauge our responses.
Seth Holehouse:These smaller scale attacks were went largely unnoticed. Laboratory tests confirmed that NIPA virus caused the disease, but we still do not know what methods or adversaries used to infect humans, etcetera, etcetera. So this is like if if we could go back in time before COVID hit, and you and I could sit down at that event two zero one scenario meeting Yeah. Which I've played on on shows over and over again, and we said, wait. This is actually gonna happen.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah. Like, how how did you come across this? Because I only heard about this thing through you, and I saw the Shannon Joyner view that you did. Yep. But but it's not something everyone's talking about.
Seth Holehouse:It's not like there's a big breaking talking about.
Dr. David Martin:No one has talked about it.
Seth Holehouse:How'd you find how did you find this? How'd you become aware of
Dr. David Martin:this? It's like everything else, Seth. I have machines that scour the universe for interesting information. And when I saw George Post's name, because he's somebody I flagged a long time ago as somebody of great interest, and I have his work going back to the early 2000s, and a bunch of my gain of function triggers that I have on my systems. You know, when you have the Secretary of Homeland Security as a member of the planning committee, and you have George Post as a member of the planning committee, there is an alarm bell that I have that my system set off.
Dr. David Martin:And this happens to be one of those things where, to be perfectly blunt, when I first looked at the scenario, I failed to see that it was talking about a forward event horizon called 07/04/2025. And and when you do a simple little numerology reduction on that, you get nine eleven. And that's where the machine intelligence that I have added to the just human curiosity that I have kind of coalesced, and I thought, oh, you know what? This is a mirror of nine eleven. They're they're doing another one of their little plans.
Dr. David Martin:And once again, I've said many times, having this conversation lessens the likelihood that it happens. If we had had these conversations in ahead of event two zero one, COVID would be unlikely to have happened, but the problem is nobody was interested in having these conversations, and despite the multiple times since 02/2023, where I started briefing these issues, the public was not even interested in hearing them. So so we're in a different phase, and in many respects, we are in a much more hopeful phase right now. Because as your listeners share this content, what happens is we decrease the risk of this happening, because literally speaking about it pushes the likelihood of the event down. There was a recent interview that made it onto social media about a hearing where in a congressional hearing that there was a discussion about the appropriateness of putting vaccines into edible vegetables, and people were losing their mind.
Dr. David Martin:And I got tons of people sending me the video of, did you see this guy saying that they have vaccines in in vegetables? Well, it turns out that in 02/2005, when I was in Tehran, Iran, and I met the head of the bioengineering program from the Jerwal Nehru University in India. He was celebrating at that event the fact that they had successfully put vaccines into tomato plants so that you could get a tomato at the grocery store, and you would be eating a vaccine. They have been doing that with the mosaic virus on tobacco for a very long time, and tobacco has been very effective vector to manifest all kinds of vaccination oriented technologies. But tomatoes as a broadleaf plant are susceptible once again to a mosaic virus construct, and that mosaic virus construct lets the tomato plant produce vaccine.
Dr. David Martin:Now, I don't know how many of you realize that there is no current legal standard in The United States prohibiting even a Whole Foods that allegedly has organic produce. There's nothing that says that they can't put a vaccine into your salad. And I don't know how you feel about that, but I know that the reason why Kim and I love to
Seth Holehouse:have our
Dr. David Martin:own because I like to know that the only thing that's infecting our salad is a lot of sunlight, in our case, a lot of alpaca poo, which is very good because we have a neighbor that has a lot of alpacas. And it turns out that, you know, we like to know what's in our food. We don't like to have the Darwin's grab bag of any genetically modified anything that goes into our body. And so last night, my salad did not have a vaccine in it because because I picked it out of the garden and had to compete with the deer to get it. But but the point is that that we're in a situation right now where the incredulity that most people have, where they go, well, clearly, they're not gonna do that again, or clearly, they're not gonna do that.
Dr. David Martin:Well, the answer is not only are they going to do it, and once again, they have names. They do have names like Tom Ridge, like George Post, like the people in this particular document. And and they do have names like the participants in event two zero one, and they do have names like the patent holders on blast resistant pathogen dispersal agents at the United States Army. Seth, do you think that a blast resistant pathogen distribution agent does that sound like public health? Does that sound like DARPA's just trying to make sure that we are safe as a population?
Dr. David Martin:Or does it sound when you say a blast resistant munition? Does that sound like a weapon?
Seth Holehouse:It sounds like a weapon. Like, so is that this right here? This is one example perhaps, a novel blast resistant gene.
Dr. David Martin:Yeah.
Seth Holehouse:What's interesting here, it looks like this was developed in China. If you look at all the the names
Dr. David Martin:on it. But if you look if you look at all of this stuff and you go down in any level of detail, you're gonna find a US funding source.
Seth Holehouse:You'll find a Patel lab and right?
Dr. David Martin:So It's it's it's disgusting. It's turtles all the way down.
Seth Holehouse:There's I got a million questions. I'm gonna try my best to to focus them. So if we're looking at Silicon Valley, by kinda tying this all together, I've done some deep dives into the history of Google, Facebook, Twitter. I've I've, on my own, you know, come to the conclusion similar to what you've talked about that these were basically DARPA. These were military budget operations that, you know, had some face to them.
Seth Holehouse:This Mark Zuckerberg, this guy who built this in a garage. Right? You know, that whole story of the unicorn company becomes the, you know, the trillion dollars, you know, global social media company that so, basically, kinda tying us all together, so much of what we see in Silicon Valley is just a they're just disguised there there's lipstick on a pig, and what the pig is is military black budget population control mechanisms.
Dr. David Martin:That's exactly right.
Seth Holehouse:Data harvesting, mass you know, like, Edward Bernays would be, like, just doing backflips in his grave to see what kind of social engineering could be done with with the modern technology.
Dr. David Martin:Absolutely. You're exactly right.
Seth Holehouse:So that you had this, you know, big tech, right, in in in Silicon Valley, which is really a front for CIA, DARPA. You know, I'm sure that Mossad, you know, Israeli intelligence, all these coming into that. So then when Trump gets back in, you have all all of a sudden, all of these major big tech CEOs, Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, you know, list goes on, Peter Thiel, that have all of a sudden now backed Trump, you know, huge donations, etcetera. You've got J. D.
Seth Holehouse:Vance with massive ties, obviously, to, you know, Palantir to Peter Thiel. So as we're then heading into this July 4 scenario with a lot of these same actors, you mentioned that the numerology points to a a similar actually, the identical numerology of 09/11. Right? Yep. And tying that together.
Seth Holehouse:Now the nine eleven, in my humble opinion, was a false flag to bring in the Patriot Act. This massive prewritten bill that was just waiting for the right opportunity to say, oh, here we go. Here goes all your civil liberties. Constitution, what's that? Right?
Seth Holehouse:So that was nine eleven. So do you think, kinda putting everything together, you have the recent announcements of of the funding for these Palantir databases with the Trump administration. You have Larry Ellison and Sam Altman coming out, like, on what day two or three of Trump's president presidency announcing project Stargate. Right? It's half a trillion dollar.
Dr. David Martin:Amplifying mRNA and yep.
Seth Holehouse:Yes. And so how does all do you think that what's what's kind of behind this closed wall is this massive surveillance system? Yeah. Massive population control, technocracy in its truest sense. And, of course, you got Elon, right, the guy who's putting chips in people's heads, and everyone loves him because he wears a MAGA hat and and, you know, talks about the constitution.
Seth Holehouse:But if you look at the technology he's building, I don't trust anybody who's building, you know, brain chips and all these things, I think, to me, represent the the evolution as seen by man, which is man merging with sea with with with machine to become Yeah. You know, god and and and, you know, this this god. So is do you think that how does that tie into this July 4? Like, when you look at it all, do you see this massive elaborate plan that spans decades
Dr. David Martin:Yes.
Seth Holehouse:Leading us into technocracy?
Dr. David Martin:Yeah. And and we need to be very clear on the fact that we decided a long time ago, as a society, we decided that the extended life lithium battery that makes our back then Walkman play longer was worth the life of lithium miners in South America who had an average life expectancy of half of a normal person's life. Do do you hear the comedy and the irony in that? Extended life batteries only cut the lives of the humans in half. But we didn't care about that because we wanted to be able to listen to, I don't know, Shania Twain, or we needed to to to hear, you know, somebody croon more on our Walkmans and more on our radios back then than we cared about.
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Seth Holehouse:So looking at the lithium battery example. Right? It's it's just this example where we've said, oh, okay. Well, my I can now listen to Nirvana for six hours straight while someone's now living to, you know, 30 years old on average instead of 60 and down Brazil or wherever they're mining this. And think that that's that's kind of highlight the reason you brought that example that as I see is it highlights this bigger picture of complacency in here in America.
Seth Holehouse:We'll trade almost anything for comfort and security. And
Dr. David Martin:Right. And and and this is where I think we have the challenge with these scenarios when we have a tabletop exercise that assumes that the public will fall again for the same charade that's been what it falls for. You ever since we were told to fear nuclear fallout by hiding under incineratable school desks. Right? How ludicrous it was to do a duck and cover drill.
Dr. David Martin:But what did it do? It habituated this idea that someone somewhere out there, some tech wizard, some defense wizard knows better than we do. And our little minds when we were eight or nine or 10 and we were told to hide under the desk to prepare for the Russians bombing us, became hypnotized into believing that there was a government that was looking out for us, and somehow or another that government was our savior, and all we had to do is crawl under a desk and be compliant, and then suddenly we'd be fine. Well, what we don't understand is that the epigenetic effect, and I literally mean epigenetics here, the epigenetic fear of normalizing a external authority that tells you to be afraid, then it tells deprive yourself of logic. Right?
Dr. David Martin:Any one of us could have examined how dumb the idea of there's a nuclear strike, and we're supposed to hide under a desk. Really? Like, that is laughable. But we still somehow were able to be coerced into something that on its face was nonsensical and at its heart was insidious. Because what it was doing was conditioning us to expect a expert telling us what to do, and without any consideration, we could just fall into line.
Dr. David Martin:And and so whether that's for our benefit where we're told, well, we're gonna have social media, we'll use a term, by the way, is the most antisocial thing we've ever invented, but we call it social media. So we hypnotize ourself no different from when we use the term vaccine to allegedly help prevent a disease, but it's the thing that's actually perpetrating the death and destruction, but we call it a thing, and it's exactly the opposite of it. And I think Seth, we've been doing this, this what I refer to in my blog is inverted alchemy for a long time. What we're doing is we're taking this idea that humans respond to fear, and they respond to demands for acquiescence, and they respond to these hideous impulses. And they're so predictable that they can be told there's going to be an attack on July 4, and we don't even blink an eye.
Dr. David Martin:We don't even stay hold woah. Woah. Hold on a minute. How could we callously say two hundred and eighty thousand Americans lose their lives and that's acceptable so that we can, what, promote a law that wants to have total invasion of our privacy, total invasion of our personal space, total surrender of this sovereignty of our own own information, our own communications. And by the way, that's exactly what this kind of an event horizon would do.
Dr. David Martin:And if you go back and look at who was the person called into being the SWAT team to investigate this thing, it's the Department of State and the Department of Defense. You know what's not mentioned? The Department of Health and Human Services. In this scenario, respondents are intelligence, defense, and communications. How how bizarre for a public health event where we don't even have health referenced in the first response.
Seth Holehouse:It's like it's just a military operation.
Dr. David Martin:It is a military operation because it's not like a military operation. It is a military operation, just like COVID and operation warp speed were. So, you know, are there lessons to learn? Question. It comes to that deeper question, which is the question that you and I have explored many times, and, you know, ironically, one of the things I'm doing in a couple months, because I fully intend by the way to survive July 4.
Dr. David Martin:Fully intend to be on my farm having a beautiful time on July 4. But, you know, a number of us, in fact, this started with a conversation on my farm with Joel Salatin, who who is a phenomenal visionary in terms of the potential of the human agro agroeconomic and agronomile kind of future. You know, Joel came out, and he was doing a review of my farm and seeing how Kim and I could turn it into kind of its own little Eden, which we're doing in slow motion. And, he said, wouldn't it be fun to to put together an event that didn't talk about the problems, but talked about solutions? And so what we're doing is realizing that if we don't change the narrative and start talking about how humans can rise to their full vitality and to their full potential, and to see the limitless and boundless nature of their wonder, we're part of the problem.
Dr. David Martin:So what we're doing, Rejuvenate Health Summit, August at Polyface Farms in Staunton, Virginia. A number of us are getting together, and what we're going to do is talk not about all the things that are wrong, but we're going to sit with several hundred of the most brilliant people and the most compassionate loving humanity, and talk about how we reintegrate into a world that says that the world is not our enemy. Nature is not creating poisons to kill us. You know, these are all man made fear mongering stories and narratives. And we're going to have an amazing time with amazing people showing that there's a better form of humanity that is not respondent to fear, not respondent to acquiescence, not willing to bend the knee, but to stand tall and say, are fearfully and wonderfully made.
Dr. David Martin:We have unbounded potential if we allow ourselves to simply step into humanity. And the beautiful thing is, Seth, by doing the conversation we just had, we decrease the likelihood of the evil having its day, and we increase the likelihood of humanity having that little glimmer, that little tiny ember that's still glowing inside of all of us, and it is in all of us. That ember, if we simply fan it into flame, can reignite a humanity that does not respond to the whims and the willful inhumanity of big tech, of the artificial of artificial intelligence, of all of the things that have been set into motion to hijack and to suspend us from our full potential. And it turns out that that flame can then light the forest fire that then can engulf the world with a light. And that light is the light of life, and that light can surround us.
Dr. David Martin:And I can tell you, I am more optimistic sitting here today, recognizing that the hundreds of thousands or millions of people who will watch your show are going to then share this message. And every time somebody hits share, they decrease the likelihood of an adverse event horizon happening and increase the likelihood that humanity will once again stand against the tyranny of darkness.
Seth Holehouse:One thing I oftentimes go back to with this as we're as we're wrapping up, I wish we had another three hours, is if you look at a lot of these people, the technocrats, I would say that there's one thing that's pretty congruent amidst them is that they're atheist. Right? The the whole idea of merging man and machine as and is the next it's this belief in evolution, and that the human race evolves through technology and the merger of the flesh and the microchip, basically. But to me, if my enemy is ever an atheist or someone that is or or worshiping Lucifer or some other dark entity, it's like we we've already won because we are made in God's image. And if, like, if someone doesn't believe in God or believe in the the in the divine spark within all of us, and they think they can become God through technology and through deception and through mass programming and everything, they have underestimated the the greatest foe they will ever have.
Seth Holehouse:And that that is, in a lot of ways, what gives me hope is that we're still here. They've been trying to exterminate us for a long time, but we're still here because God needs us here.
Dr. David Martin:Well and and I think, you know, that I've been examining this. If you if you look at the we just passed a couple days ago, the seventeen hundredth anniversary of the Nicene Creed. Most people don't know that, but those that's a that's a that's an anniversary we should mark. And the Council of Nicea, which unfortunately turned our notion of the divine into a creation in man's image, which is actually quite a tragic thing. Constantine was trying to justify an empire, and he was trying to justify his own divine nature where he was usurping the idea of divinity to be something that is in absolute and unambiguous clarity that said that he was above all else.
Dr. David Martin:And to do that, what he did was he elevated a version of God, which oddly enough at the time, if you go back and look at both the Hebrew tradition and the early Christian tradition, was actually a desecration of the divine. The reason why we were prohibited from having idolatry was because God was too big to put into a form or a name. It you weren't supposed to even mention the name of God. Why? Why?
Dr. David Martin:Because the minute you shrink it into a form, technology, it ceases to have its unbounded unlimited space. And so ironically, seventeen hundred years ago, we set this particular process in motion. And and it is time for all of us to examine why did we allow God to be defined by man, rather than stepping into a relationship that says, shouldn't we go back and examine what it means to be a loving, caring, compassionate, generative, infinitely unbounded by perspective, divine presence? And and what we have done is ironically made God in man's image. And then what the technocracy has done is said, well, if you're already willing to give up on divinity, we'll take it the rest of the way.
Dr. David Martin:And so as I've said in many presentations, and I know there's a lot of people in the evangelical movement that get upset when I say this. But I think that before we actually look at the, you know, kind of the speck in our brother's eye to use, you know, Christ terminology, let's look at the plank in our own. Have we have we sold ourselves and ultimately, have we sold divinity short by putting God in the box that happens to be the thing that we've decided to label? And is it possible that if we lived out a more perfect version of what we are meant to be, we are meant to be salt and light in the earth. We're not supposed to sit there just throwing stones at our neighbors.
Dr. David Martin:In fact, we're not supposed to throw stones at our neighbors at all. Maybe, maybe we have not done our job in keeping our lamps tended and our wicks trimmed. And maybe because we have failed to do that, we have created a vacuum into which the darkness is more than happy to move. And so my view is simple. Let your light shine.
Dr. David Martin:Not wait for somebody else. Let your light shine. What is your light? What is your essence? Let your light shine.
Dr. David Martin:It doesn't have to come in the form that somebody told you it had to come in. It has to be the authentic expression of the divine within you. You must let your light shine, because if you do, what does it say? That glorifies your father. And I think that seventeen hundred years ago, we made a mistake.
Dr. David Martin:We decided to not let our light shine. We decided to begin a pathway of saying, god is in this box. And you go back to that creed and go, does that capture all of the essence of the divine, or is that something written by an emperor who wanted to then say he was divinely appointed to be emperor? And it turns out that that question becomes a very, very dangerous one to ask because the answer is very uncomfortable. And so I'm a huge fan of once again, getting back to the soul and the essence of what it means to be human, what it means to be in this divinely created order.
Dr. David Martin:And the minute we do that, I think the technocracy fails because we realize we don't need anything.
Seth Holehouse:That's it. That's absolutely it. Well, Dave, I know you've got a flight to catch. I do. I wanna just I'll bring up this website one last time.
Seth Holehouse:I'll put this link in the description. Gonna try to be there as well. You know, the opportunity to come to Joel Salatin's farm and hang out with you and Joel Salatin. To me, it's just like, how can I not go there? So this is Well, yeah.
Dr. David Martin:And, Seth, it's it's important to realize one of the things that I suggested when we organize this is that we're gonna do something very unusual. The the speakers are usually seconded off in their VIP green rooms and everything else, because this is at Polyface Farms, because Joel and his team are creating all of the catering for the event. The speakers are actually going to be serving the people who attend. And so this is this is going to be modeling a model of how humanity ought to run, where the greatest among you is the servant of all. And so I don't know what's on the menu, but I do know that you'll see me, and you'll see Kim and you'll see, Australia's Super Chef Pete Evans, and you'll see these amazing people, Tanda Cook and and and Katie Collier and others.
Dr. David Martin:You're gonna see all these people, Eric Napudi. You're gonna see these people who who are are fabulous human beings doing fabulous work and so many others, and and you're going to not just see them on stage as experts, and you're not going to see them in an elevated position, but each and every one of them has agreed to be the servant of all two. This is going to be a form of humanity that you should at least witness. Because as you witness what is possible with humanity, nothing but greatness comes from it.
Seth Holehouse:Well, I'm looking forward to you serving me some goat meat meat loaf, some regeneratively grown goat meat loaf.
Dr. David Martin:There you go. Alright. Well,
Seth Holehouse:I'm looking forward David, thank you so much. It's it's such a pleasure speaking with you. Thank you and safe Always
Dr. David Martin:an honor, and thank you so much. It's delightful to spend time with you, and I am looking forward to getting this out to as many people as can hear it so that we push back the darkness.
Seth Holehouse:That's the goal. Thank you so much, David. Well, I hope you enjoyed the interview. If enjoy is the right word, but I hope that you learned something from it. And perhaps you're even compelled to share it with your friends or family, because we have to get this information out.
Seth Holehouse:But I always enjoy how David Martin is able to take a very dark topic like that, and then end up on something that gives us hope. And I do have hope. I really, really do, because I've got faith. And and I guess if I had no faith, I'm gonna like, if I was an atheist, I'd have no hope right now. I'd think, okay, the world is screwed.
Seth Holehouse:We're gonna be living in digital prisons in the next couple of years. You know, there's no future for my kids, but I actually am full of hope because I do believe that there is that divine spark in all of us, and that that divine spark is something that the robots and the technocrats, they can't create that. They can't control it. Now, what's interesting is that, just a couple of days ago, I did an interview, a separate interview, talking about, digital privacy and how to protect ourselves from the the digital surveillance state. I interviewed a guy named, Glenn Meder, who or sorry, Glenn Meder, who is the founder of a company called the Privacy Academy.
Seth Holehouse:Now the timing is perfect because we've actually got next week, we're doing an entire free this is free. Okay? It's a free webinar on how to protect yourself from the digital surveillance state. Now, we had this interview before the Palantir news came out, which is kinda odd timing, but there's gonna be a link in the description to this show where you can go on there and register again. I like I said, it's a % free.
Seth Holehouse:Okay? So it's just to educate people. They've got other things that if you wanna continue with other education, there's more options for that. But this is gonna be a detailed webinar and a q and a with someone, Glenn, who is a an absolute master when it comes to privacy and security in the digital era. So in this webinar, we're talking about, how brands like Apple use privacy as a selling point, even though it's not true.
Seth Holehouse:How big tech companies like Microsoft and Apple collect data on you at all times with their operating systems, how the new Windows and Apple AI updates are specifically designed to make a profile on you and what you do on your computer, how you can move to Linux based operating systems without being a tech geek, private alternatives to mainstream apps like, Microsoft Word, and again, live q and a. So if Internet privacy and digital privacy is important to you, and you don't wanna be tracked on everything and have every move you're making and every word you're typing and everything that's happening in your computer being fed into some sort of digital surveillance state will be used against you, I highly, highly recommend you attend this free webinar. So again, it's the date is right here. And if you miss the exact date, you can still access to the replay of it. But if you're on there for the live, webinar, then you you're able to then, ask questions live and everything like that.
Seth Holehouse:So it's gonna be next Thursday, June 12, at 11AM central. That's 12PM eastern. So again, so it's next Thursday, June 12 at 11AM central. And so if you want to attend that live, I'll be there in attendance. Glenn and Eric Meter from the Privacy Academy, they're gonna be in their attendance.
Seth Holehouse:We're gonna be covering everything about basically how to stop this digital state from spying on us in every aspect of our lives. So I highly, highly recommend you attend it. Again, it's free. And if you miss say you're working at that time, you'll still get access to a replay of it. It's gonna be so detailed.
Seth Holehouse:It's gonna be really teaching you the fundamentals of how to basically protect yourself and protect your digital identity, not just from government surveillance, but also from hackers, from, scams, etcetera. So the link for that will be in the description to the show. And also, in the next day or two, I've got the full interview coming out with Glenn, where we're gonna be talking about, kind of deep diving into the, the entire privacy online protection, and how to, you know, keep ourselves safe. Alright. Well, again, thank you for joining me for the interview, and thank you for David David Martin giving us this time.
Seth Holehouse:And as a reminder that if you enjoyed it, please make sure that you share this with your friends or family, because this is a very real threat. As much as I wanna think, hey, the world's great. We're entering into the golden age. Unfortunately, whether it's the FDA, you know, FDA still rolling out mRNA technology, or the very close relationship with our current government, and big tech, and the, you know, the digital surveillance state. These are things that concern me greatly, and so I'm doing everything I can to protect my family.
Seth Holehouse:So thank you, and I'll see you next time.