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Welcome to the FourMan Podcast, where four shop teachers step out of the classroom and into the booth to talk all things building, trades, and the people behind the tools. Each week, we welcome a surprise guest from the world of construction — from seasoned pros to rising stars — to share real stories, career insights, and the kind of shop talk you won’t hear anywhere else.
Whether you're a student just picking up your first hammer or a veteran foreman with sawdust in your veins, this podcast brings you humor, heart, and a heavy dose of hands-on wisdom. Just straight-up conversations built on blue-collar pride.
Join us as we build futures, one episode at a time.
Gregg Helmich (00:00)
right. Yeah, yeah, it's like.
Noah (00:00)
What just o what can we say over whatever like a hundred K? Alright, so he brought in over a hundred
K.
Gregg Helmich (00:06)
and it's not even you just got to be careful and always be grateful whether it's a ten dollar donation or it's a twenty five thousand dollar donation the same level of gratitude because you're continuing to build those connections
Noah (00:34)
This is a special episode. we got three other shop teachers, not the usual bunch, but ⁓ some incredible people here. And we're gonna talk about the ⁓ amazing shop class showdown. So this all started out
as kind of a joke between me and Josh. ⁓ but what isn't a joke is trying to get funds into the classroom. ⁓ it takes a lot of work, it takes a lot of effort. and so I think we're all here to number one, congratulate Greg on the amazing job that he did. Kind of talk about how we got money into the classroom kind of what works, what doesn't work.
Bobby Miller (01:00)
Yeah.
Noah (01:09)
⁓ and ha basically if you're listening, maybe how you can get involved as whether you're a business or a contractor. So Greg, you brought in like over can I allow to say how much you brought in?
Gregg Helmich (01:22)
You can if you want. It's all right. Yeah, yeah, it's like.
Noah (01:24)
What just o what can we say over whatever like a hundred K? Alright, so he brought in over a hundred
K. I was like I was at like fifteen thousand, close to twenty thousand, and I was like, Man, I'm feeling pretty good about myself. And then you sent that over and I was blown away. How is how have you gotten to the point where you can, you know, do what you do?
Gregg Helmich (01:50)
Well...
I'll try to keep this short, I'll go back to, gosh, 25 years ago at the high school, I write music and I had done a song to the tune Brooks And Dunn My Maria. did my Makeda. And one of my students said, you should send that into them and see what they, I'm not gonna send it. I sent it in, they sent us $15,000 worth of tools, which now probably be 30,000.
Bobby Miller (02:07)
Ha
Gregg Helmich (02:20)
started a trajectory and my philosophy all the way 25 years ago was ⁓ the marriage of if we can get tool companies to buy into the idea that the first tool that's in the hands of these students when they're using them
That's going to be their preference or at least something they're familiar with when they go out to become contractors themselves or in the workforce. So it's kind of a win-win and then there's the idea of a tax deductible donation that goes along. And some of the companies aren't even looking for that, but it's just a benefit or a perk that goes with it. And so.
Bobby Miller (02:56)
Yeah.
Gregg Helmich (02:56)
Anytime
that I've seen an opportunity, I do believe that everything happens for a reason and that every connection that we make, you never know what that's going to turn into. And now there's the realm of social media that has caused a lot of this to explode as well. And so ⁓ if it weren't for social media, I wouldn't be anywhere near where I am now.
that's opened up lot of doors as well. But I think just keeping an attitude of gratitude and every contact that you have, people want to all of a sudden it's like you just are overwhelmed with people wanting to give you things and it's like, oh my gosh, you know, I can't believe that you would want to do this for us.
whether it's a ten dollar donation or it's a twenty five thousand dollar donation the same level of gratitude because you're continuing to build those connections
Noah (03:45)
Yeah, yeah, that's awesome. Like I think ⁓ businesses want to get involved. I think a lot of times they just don't know how. You know? Josh, you have like you had a bunch of contacts. You actually hooked us up with
like spider and different other companies. Are those companies that you've worked with for a long time or like is that relationships that you built recently?
Josh Jacobs (04:03)
Yeah, no, a lot of that's like really came on recently. So like historically going I've only taught for eight years now, but like going back, you know, six, seven, eight years ago, ⁓ initially like all my people I knew just were just local companies, local businesses. Like I work with my HBA really closely and and so, you know, we would get like Malarkey roofing. We have a I a rep from them and she's awesome and would give us like roofing materials and stuff like that. But like, you know, all my connections were super local, but then
Spider reached out to our district office 'cause we have two i schools and they were like, Hey, we wanna hook up your shop teachers with some product so you know, and then I like, Okay, so I got in contact with them and but through the international builder show that ⁓ you and I went to Noah and Greg, I don't know if you went to that this year. but
my HBA sponsored me to go to that and really that's what kicked off for me. So I went they sent me and one other shop teacher from the Kansas City area and Ryan, the guy I went with is
Ryan, he was like dead set. He's like, I need hammers, like we you know but he like went to Estwing and went up Martinez and Stiletto, and watching him kinda like just go it from that angle, like just just walking up to him, be like, Hey, like I'm a shop teacher, I'm not a builder, I don't have any money.
I need I need your product and I need it for free. And just like kind of watching him just go and talk to them and and just make that connection and, you know, state his case on why it's important to support, you know, these programs. ⁓ it was actually really inspiring for me 'cause like I'm not the kind of person to ask for help. So watching him do that, that really inspired me. And then when I got back, I was like, you what, I need to go on a tear and I just started like emailing and calling people and just being like, Hey, you know, this is
This is the reality of of life as a teacher. We don't really have any money and we have a lot of kids that are interested, but we don't have materials. We certainly don't have the tools that we need. And so yeah, and that's when I found, you know, you cast a wide net and you get a few a few companies that but I think that as those companies, you know, like, you know, Greg said, like as those companies start
Bobby Miller (05:58)
Okay.
Josh Jacobs (06:10)
hearing like, these other companies are donating, like, well we want to get involved in this. This is really cool. And that's kinda one of the things with the with the shop class showdown, you when we started that, was like, this is great, 'cause like especially with social media, like, you know, they it becomes just a little competition. They're like, hey, I wanna I wanna get in on that. I need some of that goodwill. I want I want these kids to think of my company, you know, stuff like that. So
Bobby Miller (06:21)
Yeah.
Josh Jacobs (06:29)
cost nothing to go up to somebody and just ask a rep for, you know, some help
Noah (06:34)
Yeah, the the very first international builder show I went to, I was fortunate enough. I ran into Greg and Matt Bloomquist and so I walked around the show with Greg and I was like, This is like first of all, I can learn a ton from just his teaching experience, the way he asks people, talks about his program and stuff. It was awesome and Greg was incredibly kind. I was like I mean, I've been teaching only for five years and that was like a year and a half into it. And sometimes you kind of feel like you're on an island when you're teaching, and that's the beauty of social media.
It's like it connects you to other people. And I was like, man, it this is incredible. And like just every everybody was ⁓ beyond kind as far as shop teachers, especially Greg and Matt, ⁓ just like letting me tag along with them and ⁓ kinda learning from and him helping me out. Greg's gotten you got in my class boots, ⁓ like with the connection that you had, ⁓ all kinds of stuff. So, ⁓ yeah, the international builder show has been incredible.
Bobby Miller (07:31)
Yeah.
Noah (07:33)
Bobby, you're more of the I think I'm much more on the construction end. I think Greg is on the construction end. You do a lot more of the furniture building, right? You're you technically you're like a cabinetry teacher. So that whole world, that's not my background. ⁓ how and you've built some connections with some big tool brands, right?
Bobby Miller (07:39)
Mm-hmm. ⁓
Yeah.
Yes. Yeah, so first I gotta say thank you so much for inviting us all on here. This is one of the pinnacles of my career is being on the four man podcast and I absolutely love everything that you do online and helping orchestrate this shop class so shop class showdown was a ton of fun and I honestly thought I was gonna win because I pulled in a record fifty almost fifty two thousand dollars this year, but I just totally get trounced on by
I the Iowan below me here, so that is okay. I am happy for you, but you're going down next year, Greg. yes, it is true. I teach at Coon Rapids High School, just north of the Twin Cities in Minnesota. ⁓ traditional wood shop. we have some light construction classes that we teach here, but it's very heavy in the cabinetry world. ⁓ we do a lot of furniture. ⁓ we've got three different levels, and students can
Take that third level as many times as they want. So I I've got students that have hung out here all four years and turn out to be some great cabinet makers and wind skills USA competitions and our local Minnesota Woodworkers Guild competitions. It's it's really a good thing that we've got going on here. So part of that ⁓ success is driven by our industry partners. And so I'm a board member of the National Woods Board. There's a lot that come along just with that organization, the National Woods Board.
It's a curriculum package as well as certification and actual benchmark standards. but it's ⁓ it's an official thing that we've brought here, which has helped bring in a lot of industry support. ⁓ big one was energy microvelm, the CADCAM software for building cabinets. It's CADCAM software soft software for woodworkers. So we've brought that here in a measured scale.
they give me one seat and I can have it on my teaching machine
I I I find a lot of value in the National Woods Board. I do the online mark marketing stuff too, Mr. Miller's Woodshop online everywhere. I'm mostly on LinkedIn and Instagram, but I've also got a podcast under the same name.
podcast, the Mr. Mills Woodshop podcast ⁓ I've taken several summer jobs, just my wife has a habit of having a baby every other year. So I gotta pay for diapers and baby food and the little league registration and all that kind of stuff. So I take summer jobs in my industry and that it it goes both ways. I'm able to feed my kids, pay my mortgage, and then also I come home with the
information on how to build countertops or how the machines actually go together. One of our best industry partners is Safety Speed Manufacturing. They make the panel size that we share in both our industries. And they're just a few miles from the high school here. they've employed me the last two years in their sales and marketing team, which is a little bit different than teaching in a wood shop. but just fascinating on the online marketing side of things and just seeing how you can
optimize and ⁓ strategically get in front of more people so that so that it can benefit the students. It bottom line it all benefits the students. It none of it is monetized to me. It's just the benefit of the students. We got new saws here, new blades here. That's that's the whole idea of the summer work. It always ends in August and I go back to being a teacher in September is is how I look at it. We've got a good advisory board ⁓ that helps out.
Noah (11:19)
That's awesome.
Bobby Miller (11:23)
now we've over ninety industry partners that are actively helping out. And it's it's it's all online. Most of it is LinkedIn. some of them are national. A lot of them are local where they're coming in, helping out. They give ⁓ apprenticeships, they host shop tours, field trips, come in for guest speakers, career fair, trades days, things like that.
then the International Woodworking Fair is a big one for me. It's kind of like the IBS of the woodworking community.
hopeful to get to IBS one of these years when my wife doesn't have baby, so that I can pal around with you guys and meet all the other big time shop teachers too. So that's ⁓ yeah.
Noah (12:04)
Yeah, I how many
how many years have you been going to IBS, Greg?
Gregg Helmich (12:09)
Gosh, ⁓ 12?
Noah (12:15)
Okay. And you also go to World of Concrete as well, right?
Gregg Helmich (12:19)
I do, yeah, and I take students to that one not because IBS isn't great but because they have lots of hands-on demos of the latest tools, big slabs of concrete you can cut on and drill on or jackhammer on and just a lot of big hands-on stuff.
I've had them come to IBS before and it was good but then somebody recommended World of Concrete and that's where I've gone since then. It's been a pretty good trip. Vegas.
Noah (12:52)
Yeah, yeah. Yeah I went
Bobby Miller (12:52)
Where is that?
Noah (12:56)
They're almost back to back, like ⁓ the shows. ⁓ World of Concrete seems amazing. ⁓ me and Ken from the podcast, we went to JLC, which that was amazing 'cause of the amount of hands on and basically how small of a show it was. Like you could talk to everybody. ⁓ that's where I I got the Martinez hammer 'cause I basically ragged on those guys cause Stiletto sent three hammers
you also, Greg, you managed to also pull an event as well. How were you pulling industry partners into your classroom?
That they're huge names.
Gregg Helmich (13:30)
Yeah, again, it's making those initial contacts. A lot of times it's the IBS. I met Tony for the first time at the Sascho dinner. I might follow him online and reached out and honestly, you know, he and I don't know if you know Brandon Jones that's been ⁓ he does the podcast with Travis Brungard.
Noah (13:57)
building consensus? Yeah.
Gregg Helmich (13:57)
building consensus, yeah.
So anyway, Brandon came to this event, but I mean, they drive from all over the place and Tony brought his son and flew here. ⁓ And what's cool is that people wanna get on board with stuff like this because I think it's a win-win. It's a good public. ⁓
public eye type of thing ⁓ optics ⁓ for these folks that are, mean, he's an Emmy nominated, you know, TV show guy plus the Instagram or whatever, but he's probably the most humble person you'll ever meet. And by him coming here, when he's posting and reposting everything that he's done, that just amplifies or has that exponential effect then on your network now grows.
every person you meet and connect with. Siding by Ruiz, I needed more team mentors and I'd been following him, never met the guy from Oswego, Illinois and I knew that was like five hours away from us. I just called him out of the blue and said, you know, hey, I like your content. Here's what we got going on. And he goes, I'm in. I mean, he didn't even hesitate. And then there's this gal that did a window unit called Misty with a View. And I just kind of reached
out to her and said you want to do a little breakout seminar with some high school because when we do this big event all the shop teachers we treat them like royalty we have a VIP room with charcuterie boards while the kids are competing and they have a professional mentor mentoring them then we do a couple breakout training sessions with them and she's like
Yeah, know, I'll come. So then she comes in and just, and then she'd never used Sascho before. They're a window installation company. And now they're going to install Sascho because Sienna from Sascho is there with a pallet of Sascho. we sent it, you know, it's anytime you can make connections for to help others too, I think is a big.
big thing, you know, and just, it keeps growing. Aaron Jones is supposed to come at some point, but it always falls during his family vacation. But I think we'll have others that'll hop on board and want to be part of it in the future too.
Noah (16:17)
Yeah, that seems like an incredible event. It's amazing that you're able to pull all those people. Speaking of crazy events, Josh had the ⁓ parade of playhouses. I've tried to pitch to my builders association because there's always so we have Skills USA, which I think is very good, but I don't like the non-team aspect. And I feel like it's the same way and Greg has, it's like it's a good way to draw in maybe industry partners and stuff like that. And then it also the students can kinda I've I always envisioned it as some way
Josh Jacobs (16:28)
Okay.
Noah (16:46)
the students could connect with the the building industry in one more way. Josh, how long you been doing the ⁓ the pray to play houses?
Josh Jacobs (16:53)
So the the Kans City Home Builders Association, no I'm biased obviously, but I think they're the best, if not definitely one of the best HPAs in the nation, ⁓ bar none. I mean just the like programming they do for students, the involvement with teachers and students is incredible. ⁓ but the biggest thing that ⁓ in my opinion, like the the most important thing they have with the called the Foundations for the Future week that they do every year. And it starts like it it starts with
⁓ the HBA puts on this Pareta Playhouses and it's like the Prada Homes tour, but it's for trade schools.
⁓ high schools, you know, well whoever wants to compete basically. If you if you can get a playhouse built, ⁓ and they're pretty incredible. These aren't like playhouses like I built for my kid in my backyard. These are like real tiny houses basically. So if you get a playhouse built ⁓ by the deadline and then like you know you'll enter it, you'll get sponsored by ⁓ the HBA will find you a sponsoring company ⁓ within their organization.
pay the entry fee for you so and there's usually I think this year there was fourteen or fifteen playhouses.
⁓ and you know, they'll have all their sponsor, you know, like flag with the sponsoring company and everything. So everybody gets a little something out of it. But what's really cool, so it's on display for about a week and it is goes through a silent auction throughout throughout the week people can come and that that are visiting the museum or they just wanna come down and look at it. They can look at it, kids can play on it, they can, you know, bid on it. And then on the Saturday, so yeah, we have deliver everything on Monday when the museum's closed, and then on Saturday, ⁓ they have a big event.
that they put on for the kids. So it it kind of doubles up with like a traditional woodworking event that we do every year too, which is the AC manufacturing and design expo. So you enter like, you know, this year I had a young lady who built a dining room table and got second place overall. So that was really awesome to see. So the traditional kind of woodworking event kids go and and the ⁓ builders and architects and people in the industry will go and, you know, kinda talk to them and judge them and
Bobby Miller (18:41)
Yeah.
Josh Jacobs (18:55)
And they'll go through that competition. And then while that's happening, ⁓ another set of judges, usually people in the you know, in the building industry, will go out and they'll walk around and they'll judge all the playhouses. And then at about noon, they do a luncheon. So they bring, you know, we we try to invite as many students as possible. So I'll invite every student that participated on any level ⁓ on the playhouse, ⁓ invite them all down, even just kids in my class that I know are want to go in the construction industry.
'cause there'll be, you know, a bunch of industry reps down there, builders, just people from the industry. ⁓ so they go to the luncheon, they do a really good job having just like an activity for the kids to do.
And then they yeah, they do the award ceremony. So all the playhouses, there's you know, a first place, ⁓ pick of the parade and then pick a parade runner up, there's a judges award, a best in craftsmanship, an innovation award. ⁓ but then yeah, after that it's just like kind of just a meet and greet networking.
Builders that, you know, are gonna invest time in this, especially on a weekend. These are people that are really invested in ⁓ you know, providing opportunities for our students. And so I've like, I don't think I've ever had a year where we didn't have students just get job offers just from going to this one event. I mean, just straight up they get a chance to talk to the builders and builders are like, Hey, like if you're looking for a job this summer, and some of my kids are like 16 years old and they're like, Well.
about an internship, you know, just a summer job. So I actually have a I have a young man this year, it's ⁓ he's sixteen years old and he's interning with ⁓ a really, really good builder here in Kansas City. And I told him I was like I was like Corbin, you got like you gotta run with this opportunity 'cause this is incredible, life changing opportunity. To get in with this, you know, good of a company at this young of an age is is incredible opportunity. So
Bobby Miller (20:23)
Yeah.
Mm.
Josh Jacobs (20:49)
it's all because of this this playhouse.
So we have all, you know
Now we're branching out and we're doing projects with elementary schools, building you know, structures, outdoor classrooms, and we've got ⁓ community partners, you know, through the HBA. ⁓ I was talking about the my roofing rep from Malarkey, ⁓ Catherine, she's amazing. And she found out that we were doing this project at the elementary school, and she's like, Well, I've got some roofers that, you know, that work with me, like ⁓
Bobby Miller (21:01)
Mm.
Josh Jacobs (21:24)
they you know they're even more than happy to come out and like so they they brought he ⁓ true get roofing and construction ⁓ here in Kansas City they they came out and brought his crew his whole crew out and they just you know did a whole roofing demo everything and I mean it was incredible. It was it was hands down like the most meaningful like experience that we've gotten. ⁓ and it was just that like Greg was talking about earlier, it's that snowball effect. You get one person, you know, so
I met Kathryn through the PWB, the professional women in building. They were our sponsor one year for our playhouse. So I met her through that. She's like, Hey, if you ever need shingles, I was like, I always need shingles. And then through her I met True Grit Roofing and now I've got that connec connection and they can actually bring contractors who know what they're doing to come out and give my students a real lesson on roofing. you know, that's what I'm trying to get to Greg's level where I can just, you know, get these
all these professionals to come out and, you know, really show the students how to do things the right way and and also, you know, obviously more meaningful than that, just make those connections. ⁓ 'cause I think that's the biggest thing is just getting these kids opportunities for employment and the best way to do that is to get them face to face with the people that are gonna employ them. So yeah, that's
Noah (22:43)
We're we're
all trying to get to Greg's level. Greg's the most humble guy, but we're gonna we're gonna put him on the spot. Alright.
Josh Jacobs (22:46)
Yeah, no kidding.
Gregg Helmich (22:46)
I'll it, huh?
Bobby Miller (22:46)
Yeah.
Gregg Helmich (22:51)
Don't do that.
I admire you guys because ⁓ I'm going on my 35th year of teaching now and I'm looking down the road like I made a couple years, who knows? Retirement could happen in a couple years, ⁓ but it's encouraging that I didn't even have to pass the torch onto the next generation because you guys are carrying the torch.
already and leading with passion and my outlook on the future of trades education is very good because of guys like you. So thank you for that.
Noah (23:32)
Yeah, well, I I will say it it is it's awesome. It's ⁓ it's a cool community. For anybody that isn't a part of this community, it is a cool community. This is something that I always said like I thought I was gonna do for a year to two years. In between having a contracting company, I was gonna do this and then I was gonna peace out and, you know, God or whoever had different plans for me. So it is definitely cool to have people like you, Greg, and Josh and Bobby and all like that. It's it's cool to be able to reach out to people. It's cool to have fun competitions like this. It can be
It's not like contracting. I'm not competing against anybody. We're all just trying to have fun. And you so even the competitions are can be fun. ⁓ so this has been incredible. All right, to close it out, what's the what's the sales pitch to a company to say, hey, we need to you need to get you need to get involved.
Bobby Miller (24:20)
Ha. ⁓ they're your future employees or they're the people that are gonna put you out of business. So help now or be hurt later.
Noah (24:28)
Yeah.
I love it.
Josh Jacobs (24:30)
I think that the the biggest thing is is you ⁓ we all wanna see this industry grow and we all wanna see this industry, you know, thrive and we all know the challenges facing the industry, but it starts at the the school level. So like without you know, I'm and I think that Bobby and Noah's about my age, so I think we're all from the generation where it was college, college for all and ⁓
You know, if we don't invest in trades education, then trades education is gonna go away like it did twenty years ago. It's just now coming back. And if we don't continue to invest in it, it's gonna go away again. And then we're gonna have another huge problem on our hands. I think right now more and more people are getting interested in the trades as a career and seeing it as a viable option. And so now is the time to invest heavily in that to make sure that
You know, it grows and continues to you know, we continue to have opportunities.
Noah (25:28)
Greg's a part of our generation too. Don't be saying anything about him. What you got, Greg? What's your what's the what's the what's the million dollar pitch here? 'Cause you you've done it. I also want to know what your overall number is, what you've brought in to your class. It's gotta be insane.
Gregg Helmich (25:31)
Ha ha ha.
Well, I don't know.
Over 19, I don't know about the high school. I haven't kept track there, but since 19 years at NIAC, now I'd be at 1.8 million. But it's, that's irrelevant if it doesn't make a difference for students, right? So when I'm talking to companies, first I try to learn a little bit about the company.
Noah (25:57)
Cow.
Bobby Miller (25:58)
Wow.
Gregg Helmich (26:14)
Like don't go in cold turkey, hey, you make this, we need this, whatever, we have a need here, but study the company, get to know about them and find out who they are, what their values are, then start to have that conversation, build a relationship, and then sometime after that, they'll donate without you even asking, but.
Sometimes you ask ahead of time and I'm a believer that if a farmer puts a seed in the ground, they believe that if the right conditions are there, there's gonna be, if it produces an apple tree, what kind of a harvest is there gonna be with that, right? I think these companies that do this, whether they realize it or not, I'm not gonna say the names of any of them, but some of the companies that were generous to me early on.
have either doubled, tripled or quadrupled their gross national product ⁓ since then. And kudos to them, like support for them 100 % or people that we engage with. I think when they do that, it's hard to prove that to them on the front end, but a side benefit. And that's not why they give. They don't give because they want to get in return. But ⁓ it's that snowball effect that when you give something and it's with the right mindset, I believe good things are gonna happen.
Bobby Miller (27:32)
Mm.
Gregg Helmich (27:33)
to the company not just it's a tax write-off or whatever or maybe we could get some employees out of this ⁓ I do honestly feel that it's a win-win all the way around.
Noah (27:45)
Yeah, that's incredible advice. ⁓ as far as that. If Greg said it, I got nothing better. So I'm gonna close there. Next year, I'm gonna basically get I'm gonna I'm gonna steal Greg I'm gonna steal all y'all's ideas. And that's all I do as a teacher is just steal people that are smarter than me, their ideas, and then hopefully my students steal the ideas and hopefully it gets better and better. So I'm excited. Next year hopefully we get some more people in on it, have some fun with it.
It started out as a joke. It started out as Lowe's ⁓ a comment that you made, basically a a post that Josh had ⁓ putting Lowe's tievac upside down until they until they donate, and I thought that was hilarious. So balls in your court, yeah, Lowe's. It's it's on you. ⁓ I actually was fortunate enough I just landed the ⁓ the Home Depot ⁓ grant, ten thousand dollars. So to heck with Lowe's, you know?
Josh Jacobs (28:23)
Yeah. Still looking at your Lowe's
Yeah.
Bobby Miller (28:31)
⁓
Gregg Helmich (28:39)
Congratulations.
Bobby Miller (28:39)
Wow.
Josh Jacobs (28:42)
Ha ha.
Noah (28:42)
⁓
but yeah, I just found out this week. So I'm better for having known all of y'all. This has been incredible. We're gonna have to do this again. ⁓ hopefully y'all have a a great, relaxing summer and all the product and everything that we get into the classroom ⁓ has a positive impact as I know y'all are all making one in the classroom. Thanks for being on the podcast. This is the best. You guys are the best. Appreciate everything y'all do.
Gregg Helmich (28:47)
Awesome.
Bobby Miller (28:48)
No.
Gregg Helmich (29:09)
you
Bobby Miller (29:11)
Thank you.
Josh Jacobs (29:11)
Thank
you.
Gregg Helmich (29:12)
Thank you, Noah.