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All right, here we go.
It's not gonna make it in, right?
No, it's not, we'll start right now.
That gorilla held a little slingshot.
Thank you Easter Bunny, bonk, bonk.
Finding gems like that.
Oh my, I did love gem
and the rockers and then-
Maybe I was girl crazy early on.
Red and black Lamborghini Trappurini.
They don't make things like they used to.
I like the, I'm the
person that spins in our house.
Yeah, I shopped a whole lot.
Like, we'll be honest.
Jordan Ford, the best Jordan's ever made.
My feet literally bleed if I wear them,
but I can't get rid of them.
Did not fall far from the tree on that.
No, he might be part of the trunk.
You mean out of fallen.
You mean out of fallen.
For some reason, I'm just taking more
pride in being Gen X.
We're the Beavis and Buttman generation.
Yeah, there it is.
We did it again.
So.
Dude, okay.
Welcome to the Mr. and
Mrs. English Podcast.
I'm Megan.
And I'm Sean.
We're here to talk about the wild ride of
raising kids and growing careers, keeping
life together in the
middle of all the chaos.
So buckle up because we're all in this
crazy journey together.
All right, here we go.
I'm still gonna make it in, right?
No, that's not.
We'll start it right now.
All right, we are back and we are still
in the, we're still in the studio.
Yeah.
We have not figured out a good place to
do this elsewhere, I guess.
No, but you know what?
We're coming up.
We have, we have trouble from soccer,
like right off the bat.
So we'll be coming from
various locations, I think.
We can be.
Yeah, we might be.
In the next couple months.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I sent out a, I did a reel, I think on
Friday night saying,
well, you can tell we're done
with vacation, which is, it's well in the
rearview mirror now.
It's two weeks ago.
Completely.
But we still talk about it because we're
still a little bit on the high.
I know.
But we were at a, we're,
so we're done with vacation.
We're heading into, we're in August now.
We're heading back to school.
A lot of things, it's that big shift.
Yes.
Towards the second half of the year.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And what better way to know it than when
you're on a Friday night.
Under the lights at a soccer game.
Yeah.
Under the soccer Friday night lights.
Exactly.
Even though in Texas, that's
not really a, it might not.
They think of something
else when they think of that.
Yeah.
I think most of the
country does, obviously.
Most of the country.
Yeah.
We're going to be more of a
football, American football.
But we, I mean, I guess it was football.
It was, yeah, I was going to say it.
European football.
Yeah.
It was, it was football.
It was like, it was like croissant.
Croissant.
Football.
So, yeah.
So that was
interesting to get back to that.
Yeah.
It was nice to get back to that.
I missed watching the kids play.
I know.
I missed it too.
And we had some really
good weather this weekend.
We had a couple of games this weekend.
I mean, right?
Yeah.
I mean, if, if soccer had weather like
that all the time, so
it was low, it was low,
it was mid to high
eighties, cloud cover completely.
Yes.
Not much humidity except when the sun
came out that one time.
Yeah.
Ten minutes and it was like.
Like ten minutes of the game.
It was, I mean, we
were drenched like that.
Yeah.
Right.
Because there's a time when it's 88 here
and it might as well be
110 because it's just,
I don't know if it's humidity that does
it too, because it's not
very humid here generally.
Generally speaking.
But I feel like when you are at a
sporting venue, I think
this applies to most sporting
venues.
Like you don't have a
lot of the cloud cover.
It's just, it feels like you have no
trees or shade or anything like that.
So you just feel like you're baking.
Yeah.
Baseball parents got to be like that
because they're in stands a lot of times.
Yeah.
And like when we play
in stadiums for soccer.
Yeah.
That's hot.
Hot. Because it's just
reflecting off the silver stadiums.
Yeah.
The seats are just, even
in track was like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, you just bake.
It's like it's an oven in there.
Yeah.
And so I think in track since this was
our first summer in
track with our daughter and
we go to these meets that are, you know,
they're all day long or a
couple of days long, but
the way they do it in track is because
it's in the same
stadiums as like a soccer game
or whatever, because people are there for
so long and they have
so long in between their
events, they go ahead and they put up
their big old tents.
Oh yeah.
Just right there in the stands.
Yeah.
So yeah.
So, you know, it's longer in the front
and then this back two
are shorter and they take
up, you know, eight by eight or 10 by 10,
whatever, or 20 by 15.
Oh yeah.
Some whole teams have huge ones.
It's the mullet tent.
The mullet tent.
Right?
You're like, it's, it's up in the front
and long in the back.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I had just never seen anybody put
those tents, those shade tents in stands.
In stands.
In the stadium stands.
It makes sense, but.
Totally makes sense, but never seen it.
Yeah.
They're all day long.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Long. I, you know, this is her first year
really being into track,
like really competitive
track.
Yeah.
So we're learning it all.
I bet this was all new to us, you know,
when our first, when our
kids first started getting
into competitive soccer, right?
It's just, we've been doing that for so
long that we know, I
mean, we have our summer get
up and for soccer games, right?
We have it down.
Yeah.
And we have our winter one, by the way.
So it just depends like.
Yeah.
Just a lot more clothes.
Lots of layers.
But we're learning it for track last
year, not to get too far
into that, but last year
for soccer, at least we have these, we
carry on these buckets of water.
Then it has a fan that sprays the water
that missed you to keep you cool.
We didn't even pull
that out last year though.
Oh yeah.
We did all year long.
We didn't do it all the
year last year for a reason.
And this year has been
a cool summer here too.
It has just been so nice.
I do think we have some tournaments
coming up in August that
that's when you're really
putting the heat to the test.
It'll turn.
It'll turn.
No doubt about it.
Yeah.
It's Texas.
But what I was saying though is, so we've
turned into August and I love August.
I mentioned it on morning cereal last
Friday because that was August 1st.
And to me, because you're winding down
summer, you're getting
ready for school, you're back
to school shopping, which is always fun.
It was fun as a kid.
We can talk about that,
but we're turning the corner.
You can see fall.
I love fall.
Fall is my favorite.
Oh yeah.
Of all.
I mean, they all have
something great about them.
There's no doubt about it.
I can enjoy all of them,
but fall is my favorite.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Colorado.
We don't really get a fall
here in Texas, unfortunately.
No, we get a couple of
days that are pretty nice.
A day.
But it's like, it's a rolling the dice.
It's 95 and you're like, oh, and 95 in
October is just
ridiculously hot because mentally
you've turned the corner.
It should be fall.
It should be cool.
Yeah.
Especially when you grew up that way.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, I'm looking forward to fall now that
it's like, okay, school's upon us.
Back to school is here.
Yeah.
And so you're like, hey,
it may as well be fall.
Kind of like the end
of a vacation, right?
When you're like, you know what?
I'm already at the airport going home.
I just want to be home now.
Yeah.
It is weird how for so long after you
graduate school, right?
You don't think about summer break
anymore before you have kids.
Right.
Before your kids are in school.
Yeah.
And then once your kids go back to
school, it's like, oh my
gosh, you have a summer break
again that you have to deal
with one way or the other.
Yeah.
Change the schedule.
Sometimes it's good.
Sometimes it's harder.
Yeah.
But you're back to that.
You're back on that schedule
of like, life changes again.
Yeah.
Here for us too in two weeks.
I know.
It's, I don't know.
Were you the type that was excited about
back to school or did you dread it?
I was going to ask you the same question.
That's funny.
We didn't even prepare that, people.
Once I got probably to seventh, eighth
grade and beyond, I
looked forward to going back
to school.
Yeah.
Because for me, it was always
a time to reinvent yourself.
Yeah.
For me.
Because you're always just
growing like, who am I now?
Who do I want to be?
And, you know, not that I changed.
Right.
I didn't go gangster to.
Yeah.
But it was just, it was just a time to
show like, hey, I've grown up.
We've grown up.
Here's my new style.
That's part of it.
Right.
For sure.
I mean, I guess I'll
ask you the same question.
Did you look forward to it?
I'm sure you did.
You're.
I did.
You're by the book side person.
You're probably.
I mean, I love and I always have been the
one who really liked the laid back summer
schedule.
Yeah.
But I mean, I did miss friends and I
missed, you know, I did miss the routine.
Arithmetic.
Yeah.
I mean, I did.
I did miss that.
But I mean, once you got older, it's
like, no, I don't miss the
actual hard work of school.
But.
You miss doing reports.
Yeah.
Yeah.
By hand, handwriting reports.
Handwriting reports.
Oh yeah.
And then you go to the
computer lab and type them.
You have to actually have to reserve your
time for the computer lab.
Totally.
Back when we were young.
I love that.
We're just getting I actually am starting
to enjoy the fact that
we're getting to that
age.
And it's surprisingly it's actually
starting to get to the
point where it's surprising
what did not exist
when we were in school.
When we.
That's around now.
Oh yeah.
But anyways, go ahead.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You enjoy.
You did kind of enjoy.
I did.
Like you're excited for the football
games again or the or the,
you know, sporting events
again.
That stuff was fun.
Was I excited for
then the day in, day out?
Never that waking up when it's dark.
And I was always excited for school.
Like for finding out who's in my classes.
Yes.
Right.
Because like do I
have friends in my class?
Yeah.
Girls are in my class because, you know,
at that time, you
know, everybody's learning
to get crushes and stuff.
You have crushes and not learning, but
you have crushes and whatnot.
So you're like, who's
going to be in my class?
Who's not?
Mine is more about my own friends.
Not necessarily about like.
Well, that's how boys are.
So I'm glad you.
Interesting.
I don't know.
That's how I was.
I mean, I don't know.
Maybe I was girl crazy early on.
That's pretty funny.
But that was always but that was part of
it because you
reinvented yourself of like,
because we were lucky enough that we did.
We were able to go get some new clothes
and stuff like that.
New.
I mean, think about like even even school
shopping was fun for me.
And I remember going back to school
shopping was fun as early as sixth grade.
As early as I remember it for sure,
because I remember the
thing I remember most was
like I had to get pens and pencils.
And I loved getting that.
I wanted to.
I wanted to write erasers and I loved
getting all the new stuff.
Like I've always just loved getting new
things and then keeping it.
But I got a pen and I
still have this pen.
My mom might remember it.
It's up.
It's up in the attic.
But it was a pen that I just had to have
because I didn't need a pen.
You needed number two pencils.
Yeah, they didn't let you write in pen.
They got it for me.
It was a pen that was
like black and white.
I don't remember.
But at the top of it was a gorilla
holding his arms up like this.
Oh my gosh.
Like this.
And that gorilla held a little slingshot.
So the gorilla was like an inch, you
know, maybe an inch by an inch.
And it had a little slingshot on it.
And I thought that was the coolest thing.
Oh, you know, and now I remember too in
fifth grade, I got this
because you could get things
like to keep stuff in.
Right.
So where am I going to
keep all these boxes?
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Your pencil boxes.
Right.
So did you have like strawberry shortcake
on yours or what was on your pencil box?
I don't know.
I don't know that it had a character.
What was on your pencil box
because you clearly had one.
I love this kind of stuff like
my Trapper Keepers and things.
I remember I had the red and black
Lamborghini Trapper Keeper one year.
And then one year it was
hot pink with checkers.
And I remember riding
it was kind of cloth.
I rode all over it.
I mean, like, well, but what I was going
to say is in fifth
grade and I saw this too,
it was a Herbie Beetle Volkswagen.
Right.
What?
Why? Specifically made for your desk.
The front of it.
How do I explain this?
The front of it, the hood was rounded,
but it was just it was
just things that stuck
stuck up.
Oh, like plastic.
It was all plastic that's so you could
stick your pins in the hood.
Oh, your pins would
stick in the hood of it.
But it was shaped like that.
Of the then Herbie Beetle.
Right.
And then the trunk opened up and so you
could put stuff in there
and it had a the tailpipe
was a pencil sharpener.
Wow.
Yeah.
So, I mean, I like
finding gems like that.
Oh, that might be you maybe maybe had a
gym in the rocker Trapper Keeper.
Do you remember that?
That's an old name.
Oh, my I did love Jim and the rockers.
And then she would turn into Jericho when
she like hit her her star earrings.
OK, I watched that cartoon for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm I'm I'm going to just double click on
this gorilla that we
still have in our attic.
Do we still have her her be the love bug?
Yes.
I should have I mean, I would have been
if we ever planned for
these things because like
bring them here it is.
I have it.
It's broken.
The the trunk broke off of it.
But luckily I scotch
taped that back together.
God for scotch tape.
1988 scotch tape is
probably still holding strong.
Oh, that thing together.
Don't make things like they used to.
I think the wheels on
it were like erasers.
I mean, this thing was awesome.
It was tricked out.
Tricked out.
No doubt about it.
That kind of stuff.
I love that's the going back
to school stuff that I like.
You know me.
I've always been someone
that likes I like I like to buy.
I'm the person that
spins in our household.
Yes.
Yes.
You do like to buy new things.
I do like to buy new things.
And I mean, I know I do
remember a Trapper Keeper.
It had like hot pink and turquoise like
geometric shapes on it
from from what I remember.
I don't have anything else that actually
sticks out from like a
school supply perspective.
That was like a major deal to me.
And that's that's like a dip.
You know, that's some of
the differences between us.
You know, I am I am very particular.
Yes.
And I whatever reason I
didn't get a lot of new things.
That's I'm not I'm not suggesting
anything there with that comment.
But we this was like kind of the one time
a year we would get something new.
Right.
So that was a big deal to me.
And to be able to pick out basically
whatever I wanted and show
some because I was so shy
that that was only the way that was like
the only way I showed my
quote unquote personality.
I don't know.
I don't know if it's a question.
Yeah.
Well, you know what I mean?
It was like it was a way to show your
personality what you liked
because you weren't verbally
telling people.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That makes sense.
That was always big to me.
I loved that kind of stuff.
That's really cute.
I would search out like
things that were just neat one.
I have a whole I have a whole pencil box
upstairs of like old pencils
and stuff like from whatever.
Just just junk.
100 percent junk.
I probably have my whole
childhood room upstairs in totes.
Yeah.
To some degree.
I should rebuild that someday.
Oh, we should.
When I finished the garage.
We'll put it we'll put a room up there.
That's 10 by 10.
Like a reenactment of
Sean's childhood bedroom.
It's a good use of space.
But I've just well, like we talked about
last week a little bit, you know, it's a
sands of time.
You're faced with these things of getting
older and times are great.
I mean, things are good.
I mean, we've said it's a
tough season, but we're blessed.
It's not that tough.
So don't shed tears for us yet.
Right.
But I am in a little bit of a nostalgic.
That's part of what Morning Serial was.
You know, just like kind of going back to
the nostalgia, like the music.
Like I love the music.
I hate that I can't play music on that.
Yeah.
On the actual show.
That's why the clips are great because I
can actually put
music, the actual song to
it.
Yeah.
Without any worries on that.
But clothes though.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, get back to those clothes, right?
You had to love that.
I did.
I did.
You like clothes.
You're a little bit of a fashionista.
I do love clothes.
Especially when I met you.
Yeah.
But I was also, you know, single and
doing single twenty five.
Like I could spend my own
money however I wanted to.
Like sure enough, I would.
You're like a little
Carrie Bradshaw in Minneapolis.
I shopped a whole lot.
G rated Carrie Bradshaw.
Yeah, I shopped a whole lot.
Like we'll be honest.
And I also, but I was also in an industry
where, you know, we
were trying to buy things
for, you know, forward looking.
So I worked for a retailer right at the
corporate headquarters of a retailer.
Of course I shopped a lot.
But I do remember getting clothes.
And it was.
You talk about reinventing yourself.
And I'm laughing at your story of the
gorilla and her be the love bug.
But at the same time, I
kind of thought about that too.
Like, oh, I'd watch a movie like Can't
Buy Me Love or something like that.
You know, back in the 80s and be like, I
want to, you know, be really stylish.
And I've never
actually been super stylish.
But anyway, I did like,
I like the new clothes.
I liked planning out what I was going to
wear on the first day.
And this is maybe different for our kids
because I grew up where
just like you, where it really
was fall.
Right.
It was.
So when you went back to school shopping,
you're buying jeans and
sweaters and sweatshirts
and that kind of stuff.
And it was always like too hot on the
first day of school to
be like, I wanted to wear
that sweater with that pair of jeans.
And you're like, it's still even in
Minnesota in September,
it's like 85 or whatever.
It would be hot.
You're like, you can't do that.
Because you pick out your first, for
sure, your first day of school.
Of course.
Outfit.
Of course.
Yeah.
Although in high school, our first day of
school, we always had to wear.
So whatever like athletics you were in,
you wore like your uniform that day.
Because we had like a first day of school
pep rally and stuff.
And because I was on the dance team, so I
would wear like my dance team stuff.
So I didn't even get to wear, you know,
like my new clothes.
Did you have that?
No, we did not do that.
We would have assemblies
where we would do that.
Yeah.
You know, game days and stuff like that.
But never a first day
of school type thing.
Got it.
Get to wear whatever we wanted to.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I'm wondering if like this, the sports
that came later in the season, maybe they
didn't.
I just did because I was part of the pep
rally and our football
team did because that was
the season, the sports season.
So maybe that's why.
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, I played soccer.
Was that fall or spring for you?
We didn't do that.
It was fall.
Oh, that was a fall sport for you.
It overlapped football.
That was a spring sport for us.
Yeah.
You can't.
I don't think we had any other fall
sports other than football.
Yeah.
No track was in the in the spring for us.
Track was spring.
Soccer was spring.
Tennis was spring.
I think they just wanted to be like,
well, hold that sacred
for the football players.
I'm surprised it was the
hockey players in Minnesota.
I mean, they walked on
literally skating on water.
Literally walked on water.
It was frozen.
I know.
Yeah, that that was a winter.
That was winter.
But yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Those were the kings and queens of the
school or the hockey players.
The kings of the school.
I was there as queens hockey players.
You know, we may have had a female hockey
team like my senior year.
Oh, full female hockey team.
I think we may have later in high school.
Yeah.
I don't remember.
So for those Jefferson High School folks
out there who do know,
you can correct my history.
It's a long time ago.
Yeah.
Well, I remember the
biggest thing for me now.
I mean, we got to we got to throw out
some of those things
because everybody everybody
is listening will remember
some of these things right.
Like from high school at least.
You didn't have Z kavarice pants, right?
Not really.
No.
Okay.
You had what?
What were your like Gerbo Gerbo?
Guess.
It was huge.
That triangle and those
were so expensive back then.
So expensive.
I had like one guess shirt and it was
like, I can only wear
this every now and again.
Yeah.
Because you don't want it to get ruined.
Right.
Right.
Plus it was all striped because
everything was so loud back then.
Loud and big.
And very like lots of geometric shapes.
Lots of geometry.
Yeah.
But it made math easier.
Yeah.
Because of you.
I don't know.
Because it just did.
I don't know.
Yeah.
So yeah, that Z.
So guess was huge.
Everybody had guess.
Jordash.
That one.
No, not really.
Not really.
Did you have Jordash?
No, I'm just trying to think of brands
that we had back then.
So we were, I was walking through the
mall with our daughter
and there was an express.
Do you remember express
stores in the limited?
Those were huge for girls.
Yeah.
But I, but no, I mean, I know them, but I
don't know how big they were.
What was big back then?
It was that one store that had all the
cologne smell out of it in the malls.
Oh my gosh.
Abercrombie and Fitch.
Abercrombie and Fitch.
Yep.
Yep.
That was huge.
The buckle kind of came around.
Yeah.
American Eagle.
Yeah.
Which for the record has come around
officially because that was
one of the stores our daughter
wanted to go to.
They went bankrupt
like three years ago too.
Well, they're doing just fine.
They're owned by like
Gap or something like that.
Anyway, whatever.
Well, they have athletic now, whatever.
Anyway, but she actually
got some clothes there.
She's like, I really want
to go to American Eagle.
And I nearly died laughing.
Yeah.
I was like, pretty sure I
shopped here my senior year.
That's awesome.
Interesting.
But shoes, I think shoes really are the
thing that are huge for me.
I've always been a shoe person.
Always.
Still is.
That's why I say always.
I still, I've.
Always and forever.
What is the issue with me and other
people are like this or not.
I have an issue and I've said it on this
podcast and everybody
that knows me knows it.
But I just, I think
it's a Piccadillo with me.
So it's Piccadilly.
Piccadillo.
Piccadillo with me.
It's fine.
I don't know.
I like, I like things to stay new.
So as much as I want new shoes and I have
a closet full of a lot
of shoes, I don't like
to, I like to wear them, but I don't like
to wear them because I
don't want to mess them
up.
That's what I talked about in my truck.
Right?
Like sometimes I don't want to hit the
buttons in the truck as
much because I don't want
to wear the paint off that button because
if that button, the
paint on that button gets
worn off, the truck
will not feel new anymore.
That's the automobile truck.
Yeah.
Actual truck.
You know, so it's little things like that
that drive me like I'm a little neurotic.
I get it.
It's a little neurotic on that, but is
nobody else like that
where it's like I don't, I
want things to stay new.
I know.
How many pairs of shoes do
you have that you've never worn?
Not that many.
I do.
I have some, and some of this is just
because gosh, I'm trying
to think like, like my, like
the Jordan force, right?
These are popular.
Any guy that's my age
knows Jordan force, right?
They're, in my opinion,
the best Jordans ever made.
Now I don't like high tops.
I will never wear these shoes because I
would never wear,
they're three quarters by the
way.
So I don't want to make sure everybody
knows I'm aware of that
three quarter, but I would
never wear three quarters either.
I would never wear these
shoes, even though I love them.
I love them.
I want to get the white and red pair and
I want to get the
original baby blues and grays
when they come back out.
But I bought them strictly because I
couldn't afford them
when I was younger, right?
Like they were the things like I wanted
that I couldn't have.
So some of the shoes I have
in my closet are like that.
Like I'm, those ones are in a glass box.
Yeah.
They're collectors items.
And when I get the other
ones, they'll be the same way.
I'll never wear them.
Right.
They're just for me to look at.
And it's, I don't know what it is.
You know how it is.
That's, it's like a thing for my child.
It's like, I don't know.
I couldn't afford it.
Now I can.
Yeah.
But like some of those like Air Maxes in
there, like I love the look of Air Maxes.
I just, I don't want to wear them all the
time because I don't
necessarily like the look
of them on me.
You're like, I like them.
But I've got like six pairs of Air Maxes
in there that they look really good.
They're just like
decorative in my closet.
You just had an opening slot.
So you needed a pair.
Just totally wide on the bottom.
And I've never been worn.
So those are the ones that I mostly the
Nikes I have not worn.
A because Nike's sometimes are affiliated
like how the Raiders were affiliated.
Right.
It was just a little bit more of like a,
uh, what are we a ghetto look?
I don't know.
So how do I say that?
It's just a little bit more of like, uh,
you know, urban urban.
I don't want to say urban even, but you
know, it's just sometimes
it got a little different
feel to it.
Yeah.
And that's not the
feel I want out of them.
And now I'm getting
into this whole thing.
Like, Oh, what are, I guess, I guess I'm
caring what other people
think what I look like.
Right.
Right.
That's B. A is Nike shoes are made thin
and I have got Hobbit feet.
Right.
Like I have wide feet.
You have wide feet.
Our whole family is wide feet.
I know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So they're actually very
uncomfortable for me to wear.
Yeah.
And that's partially why I haven't worn.
Okay.
That one's fair.
I have a pair of shoes that.
Nike's in particular are very thin.
Are they?
Yeah.
They're narrow shoes.
Okay.
Do you have a pair of shoes?
No, I have a pair of shoes.
Like they're so pretty like, and I've
always loved these shoes.
They hurt so bad.
I want to like rip my eyeballs out.
These things hurt so bad, but yet I can't
throw these shoes away.
Like there's, I can't wear these shoes.
Yeah.
My feet literally bleed if I
wear them for five minutes.
Yeah.
I mean, they slice, but
I can't get rid of them.
Yeah.
I'm like, I'm never gonna wear those.
Why donate them to someone?
I don't know.
I don't know if you have to
have narrow feet to wear them.
Just can't work those ones, huh?
They're awful.
That reminds me, I would have tanned.
It's funny because I was watching this
documentary on Celine Dion
when we flew across these.
Oh yeah.
And she has a lot of shoes,
as you could probably imagine.
Doesn't she have like a warehouse?
Yeah, she does have a warehouse of stuff.
Wow. It's all her old costumes, a lot of
concerts and stuff like that.
But she has a lot of personal shoes too.
I mean, I bet she has thousands of high
heels, but she knows all of them.
And she's like, oh, I think these are
these ones, like the
monoblocks or whatever they
are.
But she's like, oh, she was so funny
because I thought of you immediately.
She's like, these shoes,
she's like, I love shoes.
She's like, I don't care if I see a pair
of shoes I like, I don't care.
I don't care what size they were.
I will fit my foot into
them if they look good.
If they're beautiful,
I'm gonna wear those shoes.
Those high heels, right?
She was like, and she was talking about
just how uncomfortable they are.
They might destroy her feet.
She can't walk for two days afterwards,
but she's like, I am
gonna put those on and I'm
gonna look fabulous.
I was like, oh man.
Many women know that feeling.
Yeah.
Apparently.
Oh my gosh.
Well, I'm a dancer.
I have nerve damage in my feet.
There are points of my
feet that I can't even feel.
And keep in mind as a ballerina, the
whole point is for your feet to go numb.
That's part of it.
So pain in my feet is something that you
would think I would be used to.
These shoes take it to a whole new level.
They are really cute.
Yeah.
And those also look good in your closet.
They just sit there.
I will never wear them again.
So here's something that I'll be curious
what listeners think about this.
Meghan and I were talking just the other
day because our
youngest son got a new pair of
soccer cleats.
Yeah.
Boots, as they call them.
And I asked him, and Meghan thought it
was crazy, but I asked
him, I said, what was
the first shot you took in them?
Because in my mind, and this goes back to
how I treated my shoes.
I'll tell you more about that.
But I was like, there's no way you want
to put on a brand new
pair of shoes, soccer cleats
and miss your first shot.
That's like bad juju for that, those pair
of shoes in our, in our youngest agreed.
He's like, yeah.
He's like, I took a shorter shot that I
knew from my sweet spot
because he had kind of
the same mentality.
Like you can't put that bad
juju on these pair of cleats.
You can't miss your first shot.
Which is so foreign to me.
Yeah.
You don't understand that at all, huh?
Uh uh.
I don't, I don't know if that's a, that's
a, my youngest and I
are very similar in the
way that we're a little neurotic.
And I say that in a loving way because
he's, did not fall far
from the tree on that.
No, he might be part of the trunk.
He may not have fallen.
He may not have fallen.
Still on that tree.
Yeah.
He got all the best of us
and all the worst of us.
But that's one of them where, you know,
there's a little, but I
can remember and we went into
this a little bit.
I can remember being in second grade and
I got a new pair of
bright red Adidas shoes,
you know, that were like Samba's or
something like that.
They're in style now, but anybody would
know if you saw them.
I loved them.
I loved them so much.
When I went, when I took them to school
for the first time, I
introduced them like this
is the hallway.
This is the gym over here.
And then this is where I literally gave
the shoes that I was
wearing a tour and introduction
to the school in second grade.
Did you speak out loud
while you were doing this?
I don't know.
Probably, probably a little bit at times.
But shoes were like
such a big deal to me.
I loved a good pair of shoes.
Like when I finally got to, you know,
playing basketball and I
would order the shoes, guys
that are my age know we used to get the
magazine and all the shoes came in.
Your brothers probably looked through
that magazine all the time.
And I was just in ecstasy with all the
shoes that I could get
and buy out of there and
you can get different colors of them.
I mean, that was really when things
started taking off
because before then it was just
cumbersome.
Like Nike really
reinvented shoes, athletic wear.
They did.
To make it more stylish and whatnot.
And but I'll never forget.
I mean, I got a pair of basketball shoes
like A, those are my court shoes.
Those only are game shoes.
They only see hardwood and
basketball is different, right?
It is.
Yeah.
But like there's then I have my outdoor
shoes, but I would for
sure, no matter what, with
that first time those shoes laced up.
I mean, that was a big deal.
It was like, all right,
fellas, you got to do me well.
You got to do me right.
I mean, like they were a part of me, but
they were also kind of a living being.
And I would make sure that that first
shot that I took in
those shoes was probably a
layup every single time.
There's no way I'm going to take a three
point shot straight out
of the box with a brand
new pair of basketball shoes.
That's bad juju.
Bad juju if you miss that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, new dance shoes.
What did you do with them?
Nothing they're just a piece of.
Yeah.
They're just an asset
that you had to depreciate.
That's probably didn't know about that
kind of stuff back then.
Just trying to think in like the most
general terms how you
would think of them.
I owe it.
Well, it is different because they're
really uncomfortable.
If I think about like my point shoes or
something like that, that
is different because they
hurt your feet.
And so you're like, I hate these things.
And until you can break
them in, it's kind of painful.
Well, basketball shoes are like that too.
You have to break them in.
Yeah.
You have to break them in.
You have blisters and stuff.
Yeah. For a couple of times.
Soccer shoes.
I'm sure.
Yeah.
I know our boys deal with that.
Yeah.
Because we're always like, yeah, work,
work them out in the
backyard before you take them
into a game.
Break them in a little bit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, it was just like, okay, I need new
ones because these are torn.
But yeah, I just, I mean, I don't know.
Maybe there are people that are shoe
people and there are
people that don't really care.
You know, but I'll see guys at soccer
games, dads that have
like nice pair of shoes on.
You know what I mean?
And they're not like, and they're a
little bit of a retro callback.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
So I don't know if this is all dads that
have now figured out
we've got a little extra,
you know, free cash flow and you know, we
can go buy those shoes,
those pair of sneakers
that we wanted or have multiple colors of
that same pair of sneakers.
Yeah.
And that's just what
it is for the shoe guys.
There are dads out there wearing shoes
that I'm like, Oh, you
should probably burn those.
Right?
Like, Oh, maybe a new pair.
I don't know.
You know,
probably have an intervention here or
maybe buy a sewing kit
and you know, we don't need
to see that sock.
You know, you do.
You hold onto socks and shoes way longer.
Oh no.
Your dad had one like that too.
Your dad who is done very well in life.
I remember I'll never forget.
He like put his foot up in our
house and we live in Chicago.
Oh yeah.
He's got his whole toe sticking out of
the shoe and I'm like,
I know you're well off
enough to buy a new pair of socks.
But he's like, this asset
is not fully depreciated.
I'm not fully depreciated.
I'm sure as he thought.
I know.
I know.
I'm, I'm.
I don't appreciate those things.
I just don't.
Yeah.
I like new.
It is.
It is so hard for me to like, I have
t-shirts I don't wear shirts.
I don't wear because it's like, I mean,
like if they start,
you know, what if I sweat
in them or what if this or what if that.
I do that a little bit too
with some of my nicer clothes.
It's like, oh, if I wear it
too much, I could wear it out.
And you know, yeah, I do that, especially
with nice things that
you're like, you only
get so long with that.
And yeah, yeah.
But it also helps.
I haven't changed.
You haven't either though.
I haven't changed sizes and
I don't know how old am I?
I haven't changed sizes in like 30 years.
I in my closet have a
pair of blue corduroy.
I know exactly which
ones you're talking about.
And those were part of my
senior year new clothes.
I wear them like to fix like.
They're your work pants.
They're my work pants now.
Yeah.
But I've had those since my senior year.
Wow.
And they're big because we wore things
bigger and baggy back then.
I haven't changed.
I haven't changed that much.
You really have.
This year has been toughest for me,
honestly, as far as gaining weight.
It's been a tough year
from that perspective.
Yeah.
But I was going to say the yeah, yeah, we
can hold on to things
because we've just we
haven't our body types
haven't changed too much.
Mine more than yours.
I mean, don't forget.
I've had three kids.
Oh, you're going to use that excuse now.
Yeah.
I had to gain 40 pounds and then lose it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I have to I think almost
know my max fatness was 182.
I think.
I can't remember.
Was that early?
Anyway, it doesn't matter.
Does it matter?
Did I know you then?
No, I was in college.
Okay.
I was like, I don't know
that I have ever known you.
I was like pure muscle then.
Yeah.
172 is my max fatness with you.
And that was in Chicago.
And that's when I
started keeping a diary.
Not a diary.
That's a.
A log.
A log.
A log.
Stop eating.
That's when we bought that.
That weight.
The scale.
Yeah.
That's in there.
That's still in there today.
And I logged my weight every morning
because I don't want to get too much.
But it fluctuates.
Here's the last thing I'll say on this.
I know we're drawing this out, but I
hopefully people are
thinking back to their high school
and their junior high
and just all those things.
I mean, like we could talk about
nostalgia stuff so long.
I love it.
I love nostalgia.
It's just such a good feeling.
You know, thinking about
how we used to roll our jeans.
Did you tight roll?
Oh yeah, we tight rolled for sure.
That was like eighth and ninth grade.
Yeah.
And then and then the actual rolling I
think came a little bit
later where you didn't tight
roll.
You didn't tight.
You just rolled it up a little bit.
Yeah.
But I mean, like I remember like going to
school the first time
you would roll it up
like, man, I am looking fashionable.
Like good, you know, to some degree, you
know, even if you don't
have a very high self-esteem
or whatever it might be like.
But I'm rolling that thing.
Well, you know, it looks good.
One thing I did do, I'll never forget.
And this is that era
too, maybe back then.
But because I was such a Michael Jordan
fanatic, people, my seventh grade
yearbook and probably
eighth grade, but people are almost
everybody that signed my
yearbook talked about how much
I like the Bulls and Michael Jordan
because I could wear to school.
I don't think I've
talked about it on this floor.
I would I would have I would definitely
I'd wear Michael Jordan shirt every day.
Air Jordan, Michael Jordan, the Bulls,
whatever it is, every day I
would wear probably a Michael
Jordan shirt.
Of course.
But there would be a day of the week that
I wear because I had
two pairs of Bulls boxers,
Chicago Bulls boxers.
So I'd wear Bulls boxers with Bulls sweat
pants, which is a terrible
idea or Bulls shorts with
I had one pair of Jordans my entire time.
They got stolen the
whole time I was younger.
I had a pair of Jordans, but I could wear
for like two months.
I had a pair of Jordans.
I don't think I had Bulls socks, but
definitely with a Michael
Jordan shirt, Michael Jordan
hat.
I mean, I had Chicago Bulls sunglasses at
one point in time that I think I lost.
You had a little bull on the side.
And I again thought I was the bees knees
like Bull Chicago Bulls out.
And people would comment in the yearbook
was my point like, so you like the Bulls.
I know you're a basketball player because
you wear Michael Jordan shirts every day.
So you like the Bulls, huh?
Yeah.
Like, yeah.
So you like the Bulls.
Yeah, exactly.
That's exactly what it was.
But I also sum that up with, and you
know, it's true because
I kept all those shirts.
Yeah.
And my mom helped me
keep all those shirts.
And God bless her.
One of my prized
possessions is my mom quilted.
She cut all those shirts up and made a
quilt of all my Michael
Jordan and Chicago Bulls
shirts.
And it's in our movie room theater right
now on the backside.
It's a huge jump man symbol.
I mean, it is one of
my prized possessions.
One hundred percent.
Yeah, I love it.
I love it.
It's amazing.
And if you see it ever,
those shirts, you'll know them.
You will remember it.
You talk about nostalgia.
Your brothers had shirts.
My brothers had some of those shirts.
Yeah.
Like, it may not have been, you know,
because all my brothers,
you know, so between the
three of them, many of those shirts, they
probably didn't have
as many as you, but many
of those shirts were represented.
Yeah.
I'm sure.
So like for even me, I'm like, oh my
gosh, you know, I was
not the only Michael Jordan
fan.
But you may be the only one who is
tricked out quite literally head to toe.
I doubt that.
I doubt that.
That's the other thing I
should bring back, too.
And I rebuild that.
My room is all the Michael Jordan stuff I
had in there, all the
posters I had in there,
all the Wheaties box
I still have in there.
Yeah, I still have
all the Wheaties boxes.
These boxes used to come with Michael
Jordan posters on the
back that you could collect.
Totally remember.
Yeah.
That was such a big, you know, you unfold
it and there are three of them.
Oh, man.
So cool.
Like little by little, if you come to our
house ever, we've got
some of my like in the
in the gym over here, the exercise room.
We've got a couple of my
old Michael Jordan posters.
These are the original ones, right?
From the 80s.
They're not reprints.
They've got actual like, you know,
thumbnail holes, and then
thumbtacks and then from
when they're until I
figured out like, what am I doing?
That was that was early.
That's before I got even anal enough to
be like, what was I thinking?
I put holes in them behind it.
Then it was the blue putty behind them.
And then there was double sided tape that
figured out ripped the
wallpaper off and ripped the
paper off the actual posters.
Yeah, you learned the
hard way on that one.
Yeah, I learned the hard way on that one.
All right.
I've talked a lot today, but that's such
a fun subject for me.
I could talk about
nostalgic things forever.
Right.
Not because it was great.
It was great times.
Actually, they were great times.
They were terrible times for me.
Yeah.
But as you look back on, you know, being
a kid and an
adolescent, I mean, like there's
something special about your childhood,
even if it wasn't great.
For sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's times when it's it wasn't great,
but it's funny how
like perspective changes
when you get older because you remember
more of the good stuff
and the stuff that made
you happy.
And, you know, I think that's why people
like nostalgic stuff
because nostalgia is the good
things.
Yeah, it's the good things.
You know, although there's nothing like a
good snapping of the belt.
So nostalgic.
Like I'm going to get a
good whooping tonight.
Yeah, that's true.
It's true.
It's not nostalgic.
No, no.
Although I don't know.
The snapping of a tree bench.
Yeah.
Go pick your anyways.
We didn't really have any of that.
So I don't know.
But music is
something that's so nostalgic.
Like there's nothing like I was never
whipped, by the way.
I don't know.
I was like, I was whipped.
I was not.
Like there's nothing like music, though,
that immediately puts
you back in that moment.
Even the bad ones like there's songs
where you're like, oh,
break up songs and whatever.
And you're like, oh, my
gosh, I could do a part I could.
We talked about last week.
If I could make a living off talking
about music and
listening to it and all this kind
of stuff, I would do it.
I would do it. But yeah, it's just it
just takes it takes me
back to that love actually
scene.
Worst DJ of all time.
The next line is.
Yep, it's official.
Oh, no, she's like, well,
it depends on what the next.
It all hangs in the next song.
That's what it is.
This one here is for all the lovers.
Yep, it's official.
He's like, just jam into it, biting his
lip like, oh, yeah, this is it.
And that's how I would be on these songs.
Like, this is the I love this song.
He takes me back to this and people.
Yeah, you know, some people love those
songs hit and misses.
But yeah.
There are songs that OK, we're only two
years apart, but there
are songs that you're
like, I love this song.
And I was like, I don't
think I know that song.
I've never heard it.
And so that two years
does make a difference.
It does. It does.
Like, there's a there's a love song that
was on like, you know, you used to make
mixtapes or love tapes and stuff like
that back in the day.
I think it's Wednesday's
coming up morning cereal.
It's Peter Cetera's first
solo hit for The Glory of Love.
And it is just like such a hard hitting
like love ballad
that's pure Peter Cetera.
Like, I could talk
about those kind of songs.
Chicago's greatest hits.
OK. And then Def Lepper.
I mean, you go any of that
kind of stuff all day long.
You introduce me to a new name.
Peter Cetera. I have no idea who that is.
He was the lead singer of Chicago.
Oh, OK.
So he left Chicago.
I didn't know. OK.
So if I know Chicago, you know his voice.
I don't know his voice no matter what.
But yeah, yeah, yeah.
Go into these things and that would be
the greatest job of all time.
Interview those people.
I just don't know enough. I
don't know enough about it.
And then you'd laugh at me because you're
like, you don't know that.
Well, I would be like,
hey, really good song, man.
Like, love it.
Totally reminds me of when I
would ride my bike as a kid.
Reminds me of my junior high girlfriend.
So.
Dude, OK.
What would you say?
I'm just kidding. It
would be better than that.
I promise it would be better than that.
Let's do this. Fantastic.
Like, obviously, I do Chicago, but mine
were, I mean, new kids on the block.
And yeah, I mean, obviously I had a new
kids on the block posters.
And right. All of that. Right.
So they had great songs.
Hangin tough. I mean, like, again, that's
back in the day when I mean,
this is the lovely stuff
that we get it to at some point.
And I love just
touching on it here and there.
But we grew up when you listen to the
radio at night and
you're like, oh, my God.
Record play. Yeah.
Because you had your mixtape in there.
It's record play. And you would get the
end of the radio DJ being like, you know,
this is Def Leppard's Porsum Sugar on me.
Why Def Leppard, you know?
But you have them all, you know, because
you would just you would record on this.
Tape. Oh, yeah.
Just back to back to
back off of the radio.
Yeah. Gosh, such simple times.
Yeah. We did that with
movies that were on TV.
And then you'd pause it
for those talked about that.
Yeah, we did. Yeah.
And so like to me, I still like, thank
you, Easter Bunny, Boog Boog.
Like, I don't remember the beginning of
that commercial, but I saw that.
Thank you, Easter Bunny, Boog Boog.
Like time after time after time, because
it was, you know, in between.
Like, while we're watching, I could just
like picture you and your siblings
just dying over those
like four or five words.
Oh, my gosh, it's the best.
Like, we still all know it.
I think it was part of it was one of the
commercial breaks for like
Back to the Future or
something, you know.
Yeah. I don't I don't even know.
But yeah, we did the same thing like.
Yeah. And on the radio.
And the thing is now you can listen to
your favorite song over and over
and over and over and over.
You could not back then. Right.
You had to wait for it.
I know. That's that's.
And I do that now, too,
with songs like All Skips,
All Skips, some of my favorite songs,
because I don't want to overuse them.
That was part of it back then.
There are some songs that I was that
never got popular enough that I loved.
Yeah. That I don't even remember almost
because they just
didn't get popular enough.
And I don't remember them now.
Or they got there on a CD that my
ex-girlfriend or my tape that my
ex-girlfriend threw away.
Yeah. You know, you're right.
That's why I don't
know. That's I don't know.
You're right. It's diluted.
It's diluted music a little bit because
there's so much of it.
Yeah. And you can you
have full access at any time.
Any time. And you you don't get the.
Breath of, you know, well, it's like with
movies with our kids right now.
And we're going we're
going we're going long.
So we got to close this off here.
But our kids will watch like 15 minutes
of a feature film movie
because they just like that part of it or
like the song there or whatever.
And then they'll move on to another.
They don't watch the whole thing because
they have full access to it.
Yeah. Bugs me to death, too.
I would never I would
have never done that.
To me, it's the
feeling of the whole thing.
It was the beginning to the end when we kids.
Yeah. Like this
generation, I tell you what.
Yeah. I was I told you last night, the
other night, for some reason,
I'm just taking more
pride in like being Gen X.
Yeah. Whatever reason it is.
Even though, as I pointed out quite
harshly the other night,
we had our stupid stuff, too.
Oh, we all do. It's just.
We're the Beavis and Butthead generation.
Like, let's. Yeah.
Let's be honest, people. Yeah.
Yeah, we are. Yeah.
And I quoted it.
I'm not going to do it here. Right.
But but still I'm going to do a pretty
mean Beavis and Butthead.
I don't remember which one did what.
I just I know I watched it.
Well, we're back into it.
We're starting to see the people on the
soccer field again, which is nice.
We actually talked to
the to we don't use names.
I hear about Majang mom talked about, you
know, hopefully some Majang and over
labor. Yeah.
I hope so. Maybe I can bring some Peter
Cetera down to that. Yes.
Who is the lead singer of Chicago?
For those of you who don't know. Yeah,
was was was the lead singer.
So getting back into the
routine, that'll be good.
I like the team. So that'll be nice.
Yeah. I don't know.
Here's to the next year.
Here's to the next school year.
Good luck, everyone. Have fun.
Yes. And should we close with our word?
Well, OK, let's close with the word.
I have mine.
OK, I guess I have mine.
I don't remember if it's
the same one I had last week.
I don't know if mine is.
I know mine's different,
but yeah, I might be close.
All right. One, two, three. Routine.
Yeah. There it is.
We did it again.
There's only like 20 episodes apart, but
routine might have been mine last week,
too. I don't know. It was.
But it it it to me like
this week was back to the.
But it really was last week.
I was looking forward to it this week.
We're back to it. Back to it.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Same one.
I kind of thought you were
going to do that, too. Yeah.
You got my mind. Nice. Nice.
All right. Well, we'll let you guys go.
We're going along on this one.
So we'll get it. We'll wrap it. We'll
wrap it. All right. All right.
Well, we'll see you
next time. Ciao Ciao Ciao.
See ya.