Sunday Night CrossFit Talk - A Riff Here, A Riff There, Maybe a Riff Everywhere!

We talk about What is going on with the younger female athletes.  Men are also struggling and making drastic changes to give their life balance.  Question of the Week.  What movement should NEVER be programmed in a crossfit competition?

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what is going on everybody

welcome to the original

sunday night crossfit talk

my name's scott she's

carolyn and she's jamie

down there on the end I got

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carolyn how can they know

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You tell them every week.

What do they got to do?

Well,

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And then when they watch the episode,

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Like, subscribe and hit the notifier.

The notifier is the key, the little bell.

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all those interviews we did

last week with James Craig, Alex Kazan,

Elisa Fuliano.

And you can catch those live.

They all were awesome this week.

They were just in a...

More than me, it was them.

They just were awesome to

talk to and very open and

honest about a lot of things.

And I appreciate them for

coming on and doing that.

That was incredible.

So anything going on big

this weekend for you guys?

Just got out and golfed for Father's Day.

Nine holes or 18 or 18?

How long does that take you?

I actually thought it was quick.

Like it was really busy.

And we had Lucas with us and

he doesn't golf very often at all.

So, but I, I mean,

I think we were only like four,

four hours and 20 minutes

with a pretty long stop at the turn.

So I would say we were two

hours or less per nine.

I went home this weekend and

saw my nephew and niece.

One of my nephew is in

Edmonton right now with my

sister and her husband.

They went to the Oilers game.

They were on TV, actually.

They were getting interviewed.

that's cute um he's he's

like my one nephew that has

special needs and uh he's

like has his wheelchair all

decorated it's it's really

cool so I didn't get to see

him this time around but I

got to see two of my

nephews and my niece and

then my family and today we

had lunch for um father's day so

Then I drove back home and on the way home,

I took a pit stop to see my

older sister and her dog

for like a quick 30 minutes

before she was going to the gym.

And now I'm home.

So good weekend.

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Um, yeah,

I went to Indianapolis this

weekend with my mom,

went to the U S Olympic

swimming trials and got

like an appetizer of it all.

It actually goes on for eight days.

We just went to the first day.

Um,

Well,

what was cool is we got to see the

finals of the 400 freestyle

for both men and women.

And that was my event in

high school and in college.

And so it was fun to watch

that because I could like

compare times and see how

much better they are than I

was back then.

But it was in the football

stadium to have a swimming pool.

and like you walk in and it

smells it has that like

swimming pool humidity it

had the swimming pool feel

to it all it even in a

football stadium and um and

it was a rock show they

they did such a cool job

with the athletes at the

finals they had a 70 foot tall

screen where as each athlete

came out they walked out

underneath the 70-foot

screen and then there was a

big picture of them in a

pre-production pose um

coming out as they

announced each lane they

had lasers and lights and

all kinds of stuff for the

thing it was it was really

cool and to get to see

katie ledecky make it to

her fourth olympic games

was super awesome she's a

legend hall of famer and uh

was was super fun to see

that and then we got

surprised with the

semi-finals of the women's

hundred fly where uh

gretchen walsh broke the

world record in the hundred

fly in the semi-final in

the semi-final oh damn

yeah it was insane um

goosebumps when she did it

like we were screaming the

whole crowd's going nuts

there are 20 over 20 000

people there to watch is it

a dome like it's closed

right yep yeah they have a

retractable roof but they

did not open open that so

but yeah it broke the

record for biggest um

swimming event ever um with

over 20 000 fans

And it was insane.

So, yes, the times were so fast,

and the swimmers were talking about it,

that they couldn't lay up for the semis.

They had to go, like,

all out just to make it to

the next round.

And just a hint,

in the men's semis for the

100-meter breaststroke,

there were 10 times within

52 one-hundredths of a

second of each other.

And they only took the top eight.

Oh, man.

Yeah.

So that's how insane it was.

52 one-hundredths of a second.

That's crazy.

But the one thing I do want

to kind of compare CrossFit,

what I love about swimming

and watching it is you get

to see the whole race.

We were watching it after

golf and I was like, man,

if CrossFit could just take

a tiny bit of this, like the lane mark,

the lanes with their names across it,

the whole, I was like,

there's like 10 lanes and

you can see what's

happening in all 10 lanes.

Yeah, it's mostly side view.

You can see who's ahead and who's not.

And then once it's over,

then they cut to the

highlight reels of

individual people or things

so you can see more about it.

And I wish that CrossFit

would take a note from that.

Yeah.

Especially on sprint events.

Let us see the whole thing.

When it's done,

then show us the close-up

shots of the person winning or whatever.

And I love what Lex is saying.

Lex got a really good view

of what a normal person

looks like in the water

when she was on the

paddleboard last year at

NorCal Classic and watching me swim.

Kenneth says,

that's probably the $40,000 stream.

CrossFit can barely afford the $20,000.

It would be cheaper to have

the side camera than all

the cameras on the floor.

That's what I like.

I don't,

I'd rather they get rid of those

people on the floor.

Like they don't pick the good shots.

Just put, yeah,

just put the stationary camera,

take the manpower out of it.

And I think you'd have happier fans.

Now,

now what's cool about the camera on

the sideline for the pool

is it's on a track and it

runs with the swimmers down

the track and then it comes back.

So you just, it just moves for it.

So it's not stationary.

It's pretty freaking,

that probably is 40 grand.

Sarah Cooper says,

I'm more of a lazy river

margarita and hand type swimmer.

What was also insane is how

many like swim clubs were there.

like full swim teams were

all in there decked out in

their shirts and stuff.

But because swimming is a

lot like CrossFit on the female side,

there are 14-, 15-,

16-year-olds competing.

And when they denounced the

school they were with,

there were some that were

like the Sheboygan YMCA.

And the, um,

instead of like university of

Maryland or USC, they had those two,

but then it was like, you know,

Pittsburgh downtown YMCA or

this swim club or,

and then the kid who won

the 400 meter freestyle for

the men was an Indianapolis hometown kid.

And that was, that was insane.

So, um,

Dan Church says,

I feel there was an uproar

with the stationary camera

with the Masters.

Too soon?

There's a stationary camera

and there's a side angle camera.

We're talking about two different things.

Yeah.

So,

but if you ever get a chance to go to

one of these things, it's really fun.

Um, we had a blast.

My only regret is we should have went,

we should have bought two

or three days of tickets

because it was like the

appetizer to the week and

it would have been cool to

like stay for a couple of

days and kind of take in

some more of the events.

How did your mom like it?

My mom could not have been happier.

She was ecstatic for the whole thing.

She is an Olympic nut.

When August comes,

she will be in front of her

TV for two weeks straight.

And she'll watch all the trials too.

That's what she'll do for

the next two weeks.

She said the same thing.

Wish we would have stayed.

She goes,

I would have taken my whole

vacation budget for the

year to stay a couple more

days and do this.

And it was really great.

So glad we did that.

So let's jump into some CrossFit stuff.

Let's start with Josh

Woolley is the head coach of Mammoth.

And that is the coach of Jack Farlow,

Emma Lawson, and Erica Folow.

and he was doing kind of

like a debrief while

driving his car about how

semifinals went and in that

debrief made the statement

that um that there was a

point in time this season

where they weren't sure

whether emma was going to compete or not

And they had to really work

on her mental health to get

her back in the game and

back into competing.

And so I wanted to talk

about that because I talked

about that with Alex Kazan last week,

and she had a great response.

And I can go ahead and play that,

and then we can talk about it.

So I'm going to pull up

Instagram really quick.

And sure I am.

Oh, pause.

There we go.

And share screen.

Here we go.

And she's music.

Especially like ice.

Like I watched the CrossFit

games a couple of years before I made it,

like I was there and, um,

I didn't follow like a training regimen.

I just kind of like did what I wanted.

It's really easy to

glamorize the life of a CrossFit athlete,

and I was really guilty of it as well.

You just see Instagram and you're like,

wow, that's the most perfect life.

You get paid to train and

work out and compete and

all eyes are on you.

But I feel like for me, this last year,

once you get to a certain level,

You're no longer,

it doesn't quite feel like

you're climbing this mountain.

It feels like other people

are trying to drag you off the mountain.

And I'm not even like the

fittest on earth.

Like I'm fit when I feel that way.

So thoughts?

Well, I see...

aaron said here seems like

something is up with jack

and emma and I've I feel

like a lot of us have seen

those kind of comments um

and I am curious if there

is something to do with

that nobody's really spoken

on it other than just now

hearing about this from her

coach that she you know

trying to get her mental

state in there I don't I

don't think we have a

a reasoning behind that.

If it's a pressure thing,

if it's a Jack and Emma thing, I mean,

it's purely speculation at this point.

Um,

We've talked about in the

past that Emma seemed the

most level-headed when we

talked about all the

younger girls going through this.

So it is surprising to hear

that she was in this state

of mind and considering not competing.

Yeah,

I'd be very curious as to what

exactly led up to that.

I think the easy,

easy thing to say is Jack and Emma,

but this is happening with not just them.

It's happened with Haley

Adams and Mal O'Brien and

like the list keeps growing and growing.

So it may not be that simple.

And we just heard from Alex

talking about there's a

point where it changes for you.

And with this conversation

went on to like you have to

– because you can't make

money just training.

You have to make money as an influencer,

and there's pressures with that.

And you have to be on the internet,

and it subjects you to a lot of things.

Yeah, because like –

I mean, a lot of those top athletes,

their salary is dependent

on their performance,

which is already something

that puts a lot of pressure

on you just to have to

perform so that you have

that extra income.

And then

for athletes like Emma that

do have those top

sponsorship dollars and stuff,

they have some obligations to post things,

which is why I think

sometimes having a good agent,

which she does with Snorri,

and they kind of guide them

in terms of the social media posting,

and sometimes someone might

just need someone else to

take that off their plate

for them so that they don't

have to be on social media as much.

It seems like she still has...

some sort of balance,

like she was able to like

do certain things,

maybe go for hikes and

stuff with Jack and goes to

prom and stuff like that.

But I still think it's a,

it's a tough sport.

Like it's an individual sport.

You're oftentimes by yourself,

whether she's at home doing her workouts.

It's just a long,

and hard life like training

all day and and missing a

lot of things like even

though she could be

attending certain things

like it still is just very

hard mentally to to do that

almost all year round um so

I mean I can't say I'm

surprised um like people

can show that they're

level-headed all they want

on social media but you

know we're all going

through things and it is

tough like so um hopefully she can

find the right support and

continue to compete.

But if she doesn't,

it's not the end of the world.

There's other things that they can do.

Yeah.

It's so tough,

and it seems like once you

get past a certain age,

then I don't know if it's

easier to handle.

I mean,

you've done this for a couple years now,

Carolyn.

There's pressures with it, I'm sure,

even at your age.

But that's,

but I feel like my pressure is

different because I have a full-time job.

And like, at the end of the day,

like I didn't qualify this year.

I didn't qualify last year.

It's like, okay,

I go back to school as a teacher,

not in school.

Um, I go back to work and yeah, it sucks.

It stings.

It's frustrating,

especially that first week back.

Like you're just seeing a

lot of posts of stuff and

you're just kind of trying to ignore it.

But it's like, for me,

life goes on and I have

another source of income

with teaching and,

and having that balance there is,

is huge for me.

You know, like I want,

like it makes me want to

play sports again,

just doing other things.

Like I miss being an athlete.

Like I miss playing sports.

Like I want to play soccer again.

I want to go and not be

scared to be injured for my

sport of CrossFit.

Like I,

it just,

it opens up other doors where I

think that other people can

have a balanced life.

Um,

so I don't know if I can consider

myself in the same position,

even though like I'm older,

just because I have

something else in my life.

Like it just, it just helps in times where,

you know, you do get that pressure.

You feel that pressure.

You are sad.

You're like, okay,

you're busy doing something else.

That's not related to CrossFit.

And it just kind of fulfills

your day in a different way.

I think a lot of these

athletes don't have that.

They don't have that other outlet.

That's a completely

different thing than

CrossFit where if you take CrossFit away,

are they okay?

You know, for me,

like if I'm not competing in this,

like if I'm not qualifying,

like I still love CrossFit

and training and the community of,

you know,

of people that I have at my

affiliate of CrossFit Coliseum.

Like I love my people there.

Whether I'm training for a

competition or I'm just training,

I'm still going to continue

to do CrossFit,

and that's not going to change.

A lot of people train alone at their gym,

at their house,

so they don't have that

community of people as much.

It doesn't even matter what

place you finish.

I went to Sarnia this weekend,

and that's my home where my parents live.

like the amount of members

that followed me at

semifinals and they didn't care.

I finished in the 20th,

something like that.

Like they were so excited for me.

And like, you know,

that's why you go to an affiliate.

That's why you,

you stay in that affiliate and you,

and you make connections

with members and all around the world.

Like that, that's,

that's another type of

balance that you can have with,

with the sport.

Yeah, it's a couple things here.

Lex said,

I think it's different for a

30-year-old than it is a 20-year-old.

And it's probably because

you have different

perspectives in life at that point.

The other thing that Alex

said is that being an

athlete has put such a

strain on her relationship with Jake.

Yeah, that's what I was going to say.

They have one day off and she's tired.

Yeah.

I actually, I think fortunately,

like having the Masters and whatnot,

it's obviously easier to

make the Masters.

But if there wasn't, I think you might see,

it surprises me, honestly, that like,

people like Ariel and Kara

are able to keep doing this.

Cause I find that I am like Alex said,

it's a very selfish sport.

I am extremely selfish and I

don't think I could keep doing this.

If like, if I was in their shoes and,

and wasn't making money,

well, they're making money.

So where Alex went,

Alex kind of lost me in

that a little bit.

Um, but like, I couldn't,

if I was like 26 and just had Lucas,

I don't know that I could

do this without having a

monetary income from it

because the self that

selfishness doesn't make

sense at that point.

Um, and like,

Alex is able to do it

because she's monetarily gaining from it.

Like that's why she's able

to sacrifice and have one day with Jake.

I'm I,

it sometimes surprises me how

selfish I am with my time.

Like there are times that I

don't want to go like Alex said,

don't want to go out and do a hike.

Don't even want to go golfing 18 holes.

Like my back hurts and I

don't even want to play

golf with my mom on Tuesday nights.

Like there's things that like,

I don't want to go to my

cousin's bachelor party,

bachelorette party.

Like,

I should be able to enjoy these things.

And I don't always want to

because I'm tired.

I agree.

I think that's a lot of it.

But you have enough life

experience to kind of like

push through that at times.

Where I think when you're 19, 18, even 20,

those are all new kinds of

things for you.

And it's like the new followers,

the new sponsorships, the new...

swag that's just like the

popularity like there's

just like other types of

things I get it's different

yeah it's different before

everybody goes off in wild

stories the crutches behind

jamie are her husband's

from a surgery he had six months ago

Uh, yeah, I guess it was.

Yeah.

Round is,

I think it was right after right

around Christmas.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They're the house crutches.

Jamie does not have any need

for the crutches at this moment.

If you,

if you didn't have the master's division,

um, to compete,

would you train less and

then do other things?

Probably.

I don't, yeah.

Like I don't even know what I would be,

what would I be aiming for?

Because, like, for me, I need to, like,

I love competing.

It keeps me motivated.

It keeps me, like, okay, like, it's like,

you know, you don't qualify for summits.

It's like, hey, what's the next thing that,

you know,

I'm kind of training for so I

don't get so lazy?

Like, I like competing.

I would probably find, you know,

like something like a high rocks.

You know, I'm not a great runner distance.

I'd find a sport like a, you know, pickup,

whatever, volleyball,

beach volleyball league,

a summer softball league.

you know, find any type of sport to play.

Like I'd want to find

something that I can still

stay active and play and have fun.

Um,

like if there wasn't like cross at

competitions, like for like older people,

I'd probably train less and

just find other sports.

Like I just like competing.

I like, I like playing sports.

Oh, I do too.

I probably would train less.

Yeah.

And Aaron and I talked about that,

this a little bit yesterday.

Um,

you know if if CrossFit

hadn't got so big and like

and people and people did

take things like kind of

like how like Scott

Pantrick has said like he's

backed way off and he just

does class and he feels a

whole lot better like can

you imagine if like we like

you didn't dive head first

into this and try to spend

three four hours a day

training yourself into like

where you're just in you're

sore every single day and

nothing ever feels good

like we would probably feel like

pretty great humans and and

be really fit and we just

we don't really even know

what we're missing at this

point because we're

training ourselves into the

ground for god knows what

for life I feel like I've

ripped a band-aid off I

just think it's an

interesting topic because

we're at a point where

if the sport doesn't grow, like the,

the money to support these

kids are not going to be there to do,

to do this.

Right.

Yeah.

And

And this is only going to

grow in different directions.

The last thing I'm going to

say is I asked Alex this question.

If you could make money by

doing competitions like these,

like doing your

quarterfinals live on air

or beat Taylor or some of

these other things, like reps ahead,

things like that,

would you rather do that

than do the postings for

Reebok and so and so?

And she said, absolutely.

Absolutely.

And so I do think there's

pressures with the

sponsorship type model that

the athletes are making

their money through.

And it's a shame that people

can make more money doing

their quarterfinals live in

a group than they can by

winning a semifinal.

Yeah.

Or top five in the open.

Yeah.

I mean,

top five in the open makes more

money than winning a semifinal.

There's a lot of things out

of whack that we got to figure out.

But anyway.

But I think the mental part

of it is just always going to be there.

That's in every sport, you know,

and it's getting harder and harder,

I think,

with the newer generation and the

amount of social media that's out there.

And, like,

we never had as much pressure through,

like,

the social media part when we were

younger because we could

just compete and we would

show up and you would hear

about certain athletes in

the papers and stuff.

But it's just a completely different –

athletic world now.

Like you have to sell

yourself as an athlete

continuously to try to get

sponsorships so that you

can be a full-time athlete

and not have to have a secondary income.

Um, cause you know, at the end of the day,

like you want to be a full-time athlete,

like it's much easier, I guess,

for your sport, but, um,

it just comes with the

territory of being a full-time athlete.

You have to be a full-time

promoter of yourself.

Uh, so it's how to calc in you,

distinguish yourself from

the other athlete.

Are you going to be someone

else online so that you can

get these sponsorships versus, you know,

actually just being your

authentic self and not, you know,

not selling products that

you don't care about.

So, you know, it just, who do you want to,

who do you want to be as a

Instagram person or influencer?

And some people make it more

there than obviously their

sporting career.

Yeah.

So your comment brought up a

question that I have, and that is,

you know, in a lot of sports,

we say that the way Patrick

Mahomes becomes Patrick

Mahomes is because he is tough mentally.

And like,

he can throw an interception and

the next play doesn't care

and just goes out and

throws like he did before, right?

Goldfish.

Are we...

Are we making light of a

situation that's just sports?

Like every athlete has these

points where they have to

overcome or they're going to lose.

I think this goes back in

line with a lot of people

lately being pushing for more like

sanctionals back type.

Like,

Patrick Mahomes has multiple

opportunities in one game

to mess up and recover.

You literally, like,

somebody commented here about Anika.

Like, her year is over, essentially.

Like, you have one shot, and that's it.

And you have to wait a whole

other year to try again.

And that is hard.

That's, I think,

where when you broached

that question with

Alex, like, of course,

we would want like five

separate competitions that

we could just whether like

if the open was its own

competition and semifinals

its own competition.

And I mean,

in Wadapalooza is kind of in

rogue is like, but if those like,

all mattered and could you got like,

it just can't all come down

to the CrossFit Games.

I think that's what is so

stressful for people.

but I think that's what

these other competitions are doing.

Like some athletes, like,

I don't know what podcast it was,

but it was like, you know,

someone like Lazar and even like,

I feel like Freova,

like they just do

competitions all the time.

And it's like,

if you can just go to all of

these like European

competitions and get five

grand this weekend,

get a 10,000 this weekend.

And like,

the outside of the crossfit

game season has a way

higher earning opportunity

for most of the athletes

like only a handful of

athletes at the games are

really making significant

money other than that you

may as well go on all of

these out of season

competitions and make way

more money than the

crossfit game season and I

think you're going to start

seeing athletes do that

Like where it's just like, okay,

you don't make it out of the semifinals.

Okay.

I'm going to go to,

I'm going to try to go to Rogue,

Guadalupe, Madrid, um, crash,

like all of these, like, you know, uh,

major Dubai.

And then kind of like the

ones are underneath NorCal classic, um,

and try to make way more money that way.

Cause you know, a 10th place at the games,

like you're getting that in

a local competition.

What does it say about

someone like Konica who has

faced all of these

All of these, like one point out,

three points out.

Losing her spot.

They cancel the team games

the year she qualifies.

It just,

for not getting her thing to upload.

Like all of these obstacles

she's faced and she's still

here battling.

You know what I mean?

Then you have like the

people who are successful

and they hit adversity and now,

and then they get into

these things where we got

to take a year off.

I think it says a lot about

Anika as a person and what

she can handle and how tough she is.

Yeah, to keep coming back.

Yeah.

But that's just a side note for me.

I think we beat that one to death.

I think it's just interesting.

It's something that we'll

have to watch over the next year.

But I want to move on to the

Service Cup that went on last week.

I'll be at that one as well.

There's a lot of people.

I heard it was a blast of a con,

a competition.

It was good.

Minus the swim for me, but yeah,

the venue was great.

They're changing venues this year,

but it just had like a cool

summer feeling outdoor.

People have their tents up.

Like it just was a great community event.

Um, Wolverine, everything was on time.

Um, yeah, they put on, they put on great.

They paid us right away there.

Like it,

It's great.

Yeah,

and there's going to be a lot of those.

Crash.

Have you seen the lineup for Metcon Rush?

Essentially,

everybody who just missed the

games is going to Metcon Rush.

Yeah, they hadn't asked me,

but I don't want to.

There's too many things going on.

I'm going to enjoy a little

bit more of my summer.

Yeah,

I could not believe the lineup they have.

Looks like it's going to be a great comp,

though.

Yeah.

I'm going to try to get out

there for that.

Um,

I know thick boy is going to be there and,

uh,

I'm going to try to do some interviews

that live at his booth and my con rush.

So we'll try to do that.

But something else that was

going on this week is, uh,

the service cup,

which you just finished up.

How'd that,

we talked about it a little bit

last week.

You had done half of the workouts, uh,

Yeah, I had done two out of the three.

I finished up Daniel,

which was the 50 pull-ups,

the run with the thrusters,

kind of like a pyramid out

and back this week at school.

I did it Tuesday.

just before lunchtime.

And it was, it was, I mean,

it was a good workout.

I hadn't done that one before.

I just,

it was just annoying to grab my

phone after all the runs,

go to the screen,

come back to like magnetize

it where it was,

make sure everything is in

frame for the next movement.

But it was fun.

It was good.

Um, like I have my level two and I,

I have to renew mine before September,

end of September.

So you could win a level one or level two.

And then if you have your level two,

you could also get three,

three courses online for free.

I'm still debating whether I

want to do my level three.

So I figured one,

I've always participated in

like the occupational games

and everything.

And then may as well,

Do this one,

try to be the fittest teacher.

Didn't know if there was

other like higher level teachers,

like semi-final athletes

that were gonna take part in it,

but I did it and hopefully

all my videos are good and

then I can get some online

courses covered.

And my idea too is eventually,

let's say I do have my level, like my,

all my courses and they

want to continue doing that

is I'd like to give a

scholarship to one of my

students eventually and use it,

hopefully use that code and, you know,

give that to a student

that's looking to go in

kinesiology and is really

interested in fitness and

stuff like that.

I think that would be cool.

So that's another reason I

want to hopefully accumulate these,

these codes.

Is the, is the leaderboard live?

Yeah.

Did you meet Dave?

Yes, I did.

Okay.

I ended up winning all three

of the workouts, which I was happy about,

in all the divisions.

Nice.

Happy about that.

Good redemption after my semifinal.

Yeah.

Well, that's awesome.

I'm glad they brought that back.

I think that's important,

and glad they're going to do that.

What was unique about this

year is in the past,

they put the occupational

games either like through

the open or they would run

it at the same time as, let's say,

the master's age group.

And they were the same workouts.

So people just kind of signed up for both.

This time it was more, you know,

it was just service cup,

a special weekend or week

of workouts just for for people like.

you know, in those divisions,

which I thought was unique.

And a lot of the gyms ended

up doing those workouts as well.

I know our affiliate did the workouts.

Okay, cool.

I'm trying to find the RX Markier story.

Was it in a story?

Yes, it was a story.

But Dave Newman posted...

a video of explanation.

Um, I can't find that one anymore,

but I think it was a story only.

Okay.

He has it on the, uh, the RX CEO,

RX marketer CEO.

I just found it.

Oh.

Um,

so I'm going to show that cause that's

our next story and I

haven't listened to this,

so we'll just listen to it together live.

Okay,

the verdict is in and the Alex Smith

grips are banned from CrossFit.

They will not be allowed at

the CrossFit Games.

No, this is not a joke.

After multiple conversations

and emails with competition

director Adrian Bosman,

it has been determined that

the Smith grips do not meet

the hand protection

guidelines as written in

the 2024 rule book.

But fear not.

If you currently use Alex

Smith grips and you are

competing at the CrossFit

Games in Dallas this August,

Email info at rxmarketer.com

and we will mail you a

legal pair of Smith grips

with a slight modification.

They will be allowed on the

competition floor so you

can grip it and rip it.

All right.

So basically I saw a thing.

They're stitched so thickly

that it simulates a dowel.

Mm-hmm.

Um, and that's why they're illegal.

Um, but they are illegal.

I think it's cool.

One, just to be clear,

RX market was our first big

sponsor on the show and

they were a sponsor for a

couple of years.

So, um, you know,

they've been very good to us.

Dave is a great friend.

Um,

and I think it but I do

think it's cool that they

are willing to replace

these free of charge for

anybody because they want

them to have something

illegal at the crossfit

games so great move on rx

markers part part sure do

you guys use anything like

that or you just use the floppy grip

I have bear complex.

But most of them, I mean,

even if they use the Alex Smith grips,

when you flop them,

are their hands on that part?

Or are they just like on

like the medium part of the grip?

So I think they're shorter

than like the traditional grips.

You can't flop them like the traditional.

But like my thing is,

is like something like the frog grip.

In the,

in the rule book of the CrossFit games,

they talk about, you know,

not adding a grip that's very,

I don't know, not sticky, but, uh,

what is it called?

Like getting additional.

unfair advantage unfair

advantage like to me I feel

like some some of the grips

right now are so sticky

that that's more of an

advantage than than the

dowel almost like yeah

you're stuck on you're

literally stuck on on the

rig so I'm I'm wondering

whether there's going to be some

I don't know,

they're going to start

looking at some of the

different types of grips

that are starting to come

out there because, I mean,

it can make a huge

difference whether you're

needing to chalk up between

movements or between sets

or if you just can...

glue on the bar yeah um so

what I don't know I think

that's more of an advantage

than I've never tried the

frog grips but I've heard

that they're so sticky

right um so I'm just

curious whether they'll

start looking into all the

materials that are actually

being used um here's here's

what I'm confused with so I

have element 26 chocolate scripts

And they're like a little

bit of a rubber coating.

And they, I wouldn't say they're tacky,

but you don't need chalk

and it sticks pretty good.

Like,

but not like so much that I'm going

to knock out a bunch of stuff.

But anyway,

but if there's chalk on the bar,

they're useless.

Like if you get chalk on a chalkless grip,

all of a sudden it's not

effective at all.

It's less than effective.

You saw people at semifinal

with a towel now literally coming,

like when they come to the floor,

they're coming to wipe the bars now.

So that could be the same

for the front grip.

Yep.

That's why they're doing it.

Okay.

Yeah, because I didn't, like, you know,

at a community gym,

like the bars aren't

cleaned after every class.

No.

Right?

And if there's chalk on the bar,

like I might as well not

even wear a grip.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Cause it just slides right off.

Yeah.

So kind of says easy fix

CrossFit supplies a gear at

the games and you can only

use their gear.

Then all sponsorship deals are gone.

And you've taken away

another way for athletes to make money.

And a lot of these companies

are like small niche CrossFit companies.

Like, you know, the grips, like,

it's hard to tell them like, Oh,

you can't have these grips anymore.

And do you think,

I don't know if I totally

agree with that.

Like just because everyone's

wearing was wearing noble

at the games doesn't mean

they don't wear something

else every other day in the gym, wherever,

like,

and that's what their daily videos show,

like what they like to wear.

So, um,

I mean,

I think you could probably get more

traction out of your daily

training posts with the

item that you actually

truly want to train with

because you're forced to

wear whatever at the games.

See,

I don't think we should go back to

just like Bruce Ray and

just like your hands.

The workouts would have to

significantly change if we

were to not have grips.

But there would be like...

No butterflying as much like

the like you couldn't have high,

high volume gymnastics on on the bars.

I mean,

I get that you get used to it to a

certain extent,

but you want to see the

best athletes be able to

continue to finish the

weekend and not have.

you know,

ripped up hands and bloody hands all over,

right?

So the grip is important for protection.

It's just what's the line of

protection and just completely unfair,

right?

Yeah.

You already see bloody hands with grips.

It's going to get 10 times worse without.

And then it becomes almost a safety issue.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't think anyone really

is other than Bruce is

purporting takeaway grips.

I just,

it shouldn't be a standard piece of gear.

Maybe it maybe should be

something that's provided

if they want one level playing field.

But I do want to say,

if you're a smaller company

like Bear Complex or

Element 26 or Frog Grips,

you're hoping to get that

picture of your athlete at

the games in their games

gear with that thing on their wrist, hand,

waist, whatever.

That's a money shot for a sponsor.

And I think when the

everyday use in the gym

doesn't have that same

effect as seeing them at

the games with it on.

If you can get it.

So, there's that.

So here's the next update for us.

Last week,

I made a plea to our audience to,

if they wanted us to cover

the Masters CrossFit Games

with a behind-the-scenes to

reach out to the organizers,

and some of you did, and it was awesome.

Thank you so much.

I got a text from Joe Linton

the following day,

asking for a meeting.

I met with him last Thursday.

He is excited to have us come and do that.

We just have to make sure

that we don't step on toes

with other media being

brought in to stream the event.

So I had to do a write-up for them,

sent that off.

They're going to talk to the

media company and see where

it is that we can get approval,

where we can't.

But I'm optimistic that

we're going to get pretty

good approval for that and

be able to bring you a

behind-the-scenes of the

Masters CrossFit Games.

That's awesome.

Good job.

Thank you for the people that pushed this,

and it's a good job, listeners.

Yeah, there were some, especially one,

that reached out

immediately after the show.

And so, yeah,

we got an immediate response

from Joe the next day.

That's awesome.

So, it's going to be awesome.

Now...

It's time for me to talk

about something I saw on

Barbell Spin this week that

I needed to address.

So.

A little roof alert.

I like it.

I respect John Young.

I respect Brian Spin so much.

I watch their show every week.

I'm going to preface this with that.

I watch their show every stinking week.

They put out a reel talking

about Hattie Cano.

I almost mispronounced her name.

Hattie Cano.

And it was cut.

So I'm going to show you that first.

And then we're going to look

at the uncut version.

So first,

here is what they put out on Instagram.

Hey, Jack Rosema, I think,

because I think he had the best showing.

Him and Hattie Cano.

But I think Hattie Cano is a

bit of a one-hit wonder.

I don't think we're going to

see her name again.

No offense, Hattie.

How dare you?

She's coming on sevens.

I know.

And she's awesome.

And I called her to make it.

Nobody else called her to make it.

Clydesdale did.

Clydesdale did.

Austin Hatfield's my best newcomer.

And I say best newcomer.

So that was the cut version.

So looking at that,

I should be thankful that

they mentioned me,

that I was someone who

talked about Hattie Cano.

But let's look at the uncut

version real quick.

Him and Hattie Cano.

But I think Hattie Cano is a

bit of a one-hit wonder.

I don't think we're going to

see her name again.

No offense, Hattie.

How dare you?

She's coming on seven.

I know.

And she's awesome.

And I called her to make it.

Nobody else called her to make it.

Patrick Clark.

Not Patrick Clark.

Clydesdale did.

Clydesdale did.

But he says everybody.

That's because she was on his show.

He says Saxon is going to win the game.

So it's hard to take that seriously.

But.

I say that everybody's going

to make the CrossFit Games.

Back when we first had this discussion,

Mr. Young.

I sent you a clip showing

you a screenshot of my Heat

One app where I was only

allowed to pick eight

people to make the CrossFit Games.

In that list of eight people

was Hattie Canio.

Mr. Spin, yes,

she was on my show 15 times.

But why was she on my show 15 times?

Because we freaking care

about the semifinal athletes,

unlike a lot of other people.

We interview all these people.

We get to know them.

We watch them at semifinals.

We see who is on the up and

coming and who is going to

do well moving in season after season.

In fact,

my co-host sitting down there at

the far right said Austin

Hatfield was going to make

the CrossFit Games two

years ago at the Orlando semifinals.

She has been saying that

much longer than John Young.

Because we see these people,

and we're out there for every heat,

and we watch all the semifinalists,

and we know what's going on.

The other thing is,

I get sick and tired of

this group of people who

are in a texturing together,

and I respect them all.

And they can have that, that's fine.

But you're not the only

analyst in the space.

And other analysts in the

space can be right.

We can watch this sport and

make educated decisions on

what's going on.

And we can be right, too.

Finally, I never,

ever said that Saxon

Pancheck was going to win

the CrossFit Games.

For the last two years,

I've had nobody on top of

the list to win the male

CrossFit Games other than Jeff Adler.

And I have been preaching

that from the mountaintop.

What I said was Saxon

Pinchuk has been forgotten about.

Everybody forgot because of

his injury last year that

he was a top five CrossFit

Games athlete in his career.

And if he had a good

programming and a good season,

he could surprise people at

the semifinals,

which at the beginning of

this year's semifinals, I think he did.

He showed up in a way that

people were shocked because

I watched the sport and I

can make an educated

decision on what's going on.

That's my riff.

Clip it.

Man,

I was watching that going to bed last

Wednesday night and I sat up in my bed

what the hell did he just

say I think what what's

hard is you interview all

these people right so

you're invested in their

semi-final performance so

it's hard like you want

them all to do well right

so I don't know if it's

lost in that part is that

you're cheering for all of

them because you get to

know them on a different

level than maybe other

analysts so I don't know if

he's more going that route um

But it's one thing to root for them.

It's another thing to pick them.

I picked eight people to

qualify from the West.

One of those eight people was Hattie Cano.

I didn't pick everybody.

I didn't pick Amy Hosking.

Love Amy Hosking.

One of my favorite people to interview.

But I didn't pick her to go

to the CrossFit Games.

Gabby Spence has been on my show a ton.

Love her to death.

Didn't pick her to go to the

CrossFit Games.

There's a difference.

I think it just comes down

to the fact that it's their

in-club and if you aren't in it,

you don't get recognition

and they aren't going to recognize us.

They don't care.

It takes them a second to

even remember your name to

say that you picked her.

He did recognize me and that was fine.

But then the backhanded

thing afterwards to say, well,

he picks everybody to go.

No,

I do the heat one app just like you do.

I make my eight picks, my 10 picks,

my 11 picks.

And Lex always beats you.

True.

But when I make good picks,

I deserve a little credit.

For sure.

And we,

we even talked about some of the

athletes in the East, right?

Like,

that we're going to be doing well.

Like we,

like we talked like you and I

probably about Chloe and I was like, no,

these are great workouts for her.

And, um, you know,

we know the athletes very well.

You told me a week before these semis,

Chloe has a really good

chance at making it to the games.

100%.

When the workouts came out, I was like,

yeah,

she's – And I trusted – and after I

interviewed her and I did

the research on her, I was like, dang,

she does not have any holes.

And I said that to you a

week before semis.

Yeah, we had this talk.

And who made the games?

Chloe.

Chloe.

And I've talked about Fola

since last year.

I've seen her kind of come up, you know,

she had a bad last event,

but I think just the

pressure came to her.

But I think her time will come as well.

She's a young athlete.

You know, if that's what she wants, right,

we know what's going on

right now with a lot of the

younger athletes and the

pressure and stuff.

But if that's the route that

she decides to take,

I think her future is very,

very bright too.

She's a very talented athlete for sure.

And that seems like a very

small hole to fill.

heavy lunges you can work on

that right and it she could

have been fine it's just

you know she just pushed a

little bit under race day

like it doesn't even mean

it's a whole once you're at

that failure you're at that

failure like you that can

happen on a chest to bar

workout on a ring muscle-up

workout doesn't mean you're

bad at ring muscle-up it

just means you just overdid

it for that workout yep so

um michael park they're not

getting me down

not getting me down but I'm

not going to just stand

here and be silent about it

either not getting me down

um so we may be uh this may

be part two so one last

time masters fitness

collective my favorite

competition in all the land

And if you've been following this show,

you know that me and the

MFC are like that.

Like that.

This is what sucks about this.

I love their venue.

I love their competition.

I love where it is.

It is a great place if you

love Masters athletes to go

hang out with them and

watch them compete at the highest level.

but they cannot get out of

their own freaking way.

So I'm going to share my screen.

Thank you to Holly Dugan for

doing this out onto our

story while I was in Indianapolis.

That is not what I wanted.

Uh-oh, nope.

Got to use a different screen share.

Hold on.

There we go.

Okay,

so this year at Masters Fitness

Collective,

it was required for you to use

the WeTime app to film your

workout and submit them to the MFC.

They promoted it as you

could sign up for the free

trial if you did not wanna

pay for it and then submit your workouts.

What athletes did after the

free trial is they,

after they submitted their workouts,

was canceled so they would

not be charged for the

WeTime app afterwards.

What was not foreseen is

that canceling that

subscription meant your links became,

your videos became

unwatchable by anybody.

So,

As you can see here,

your links have expired and

cannot be viewed.

So the solution is

resubscribe to the WeTime

app and then your links

become valid again.

If you happen to save the

video to another location,

you can then upload it to

another platform and send

that link to them.

Or if you don't do either of these things,

you get an automatic zero

for the workout.

And here's what I have a problem with.

They come up with these

great ideas at Masters Fitness Collective,

and then when it doesn't go seamlessly,

they put the burden back on the athlete.

Like these athletes don't

have enough to worry about,

especially the Masters

athletes working full-time jobs, kids,

families, the whole bit.

They don't have enough to worry about.

Now they've got to

resubscribe to something or

hope they've freaking saved

it and can put it up to

another platform or all the

work they did is for naught.

Because the Masters athletes

are the best with technology as well.

Exactly.

Exactly.

We know those 55 to

59-year-olds are great with all the apps.

Every year,

there's something that MFC does

that makes it impossible

for people to submit their stuff.

And Jamie can tell you,

you go to Fort Wayne,

it is an awesome venue.

It is an awesome place.

They have great ideas,

but the details get lost so

quickly with them.

I love the venue.

I think the programming is,

I think it's one of the

best camps there is.

They do need to fix some things,

mainly prizes.

Oh, yeah.

That piece, I didn't even say.

Yeah, I have so many thoughts about this.

I get where they were coming

from with this,

and they probably went

around it all wrong saying, hey,

get this and do the link system.

I personally have WeTime.

I've had it for,

I think this is my third

year of having WeTime.

They used WeTime last year.

I have paid for WeTime.

I have the yearly subscription.

I've had it for two years.

Like,

I get they advertised as you can get

this free trial.

But, like,

I think if you are at all trying

to do this in any fashion

where you're trying to be

serious and you're trying

to make these comps, I'm –

going to go back to,

I say it every time about

every single comp, I'm angry that this,

I didn't do MFC,

so I didn't know any of

this because I have a

wedding that weekend, so I'm not,

I couldn't go anywhere.

But these,

all these leaderboards need to be

YouTube channel, public leaderboards,

period.

All these people that you're

saying might not have their video,

that is ridiculous if they

don't have their video.

You should have saved your

video and you should be watching it.

You should not just have it

in the wee time with the

link that you create.

And that's all you did with it.

You definitely should have

saved it and you definitely

should have uploaded it to YouTube.

And the fact that MFC didn't

make this a public

leaderboard is ridiculous

because we need to get back

to pushing that on people.

So it's a natural thing.

So people are able to review

other people's workouts,

especially masters athletes,

especially the 60 plus

category where we don't get

to often see how these people are moving.

These need to be public.

I don't like that they tried to say,

get the free and we'll deal.

Yeah, they're scrambling now,

but be a serious athlete

and save your freaking video.

I should have hit this before Jamie went.

I was just about to say, I was like, yeah,

that's a, that's a good point.

Like you should be saving it,

watching on your phone, slow mo,

like slow motion.

If you don't feel like you're,

you have a certain rep that

looks good and literally

watching your video over

and over before you submit it.

So I do,

I do agree with what you're saying there,

Jamie.

I heard you can set a world

record for an open workout

without submitting a video though.

Yeah, I mean,

this all could be fixed if

the standard was get your

video on YouTube and make it public.

Like, if that just became the norm,

this shit would go away.

Yeah,

and if people don't want comments on

their videos,

then they just can block the

comments that you have on the video,

but it's still public.

You know what way to stop

the comments on the video?

Move better.

Yeah.

It stops everything.

Judy Reed says they need

better food options and let

spectators come and go once they've paid.

That was annoying.

Can you believe that?

They have this beautiful venue.

You're trying to get spectators in there,

and the spectators couldn't

leave and come back.

You could.

You just needed to buy...

Once again, details,

and they didn't do a good job of it,

and I hope they send out an email.

You had to buy a parking

pass ahead of time.

Yes,

you needed to buy a parking pass ahead

of time, and you could go in and out.

But a spectator isn't going

to see that on an athlete page.

I mean, I don't know.

Yeah, I guess.

I don't know.

I feel like I would tell anyone going.

I bought two of them.

to make sure that they were

bought for a group.

And I would think, like,

if you knew you had people

coming to watch you, you would tell them.

But they do need better food options.

Well, there's people that,

what if you're just a fan

of the sport and you want to come?

Yeah, you wouldn't know.

Yeah, you wouldn't know.

The other thing they need to

do is announce whether

they're going to have prize

money or not. 100%.

Don't just stop giving out

prize money and not say a

word about it and hope

nobody will notice.

I did notice there is a

whole lot less big names.

Did you,

have you looked at the meat leaderboard?

No, cause I don't,

I don't think I'm going to go this year.

I'm going to hit some of the

mid major competitions instead.

Oh my God.

I'm drawing a blank.

Who's the 40 year old who always does it?

Grub.

No woman.

uh anna tobias yes she

didn't even she didn't even

do it um and that's like

the one comp she did every

year I know like that's sad

if you're losing names like

that and she won it every

year but she didn't win

anything last year right

when is it this year does

she have the olympics it

would be after the olympics yeah

Cause she does, uh, sailing.

Yeah.

She's a multiple time Olympian, right?

Yeah.

We talked to her every year.

She's awesome to hang out with.

Um, so much fun, but yeah, it would,

she does CrossFit to stay

in shape for her sailing

for the Olympics.

And then she does this one

comp every year and then you lose her.

Yeah.

That's, that's a big name.

so um so yeah so I think

that's it for for those

riffs I got my blood

pressure back down same the

john young really got me

really got me this week and

I will say this too I sent

him a direct message on

instagram about this and he

did not respond so that's

why he's getting blasted

tonight he poked the bear

And he is sure to jump in

our comments when we say

something about him.

So let's see.

All right.

So the other thing last week

that I came across

accidentally was I was

watching the spin last Wednesday.

They had Jason Operon.

Then I had James Preg on the next day.

And they said something

eerily familiar to each other.

And that was that they both

were to camp last year.

James in Naples, Jason at HWPO.

It wasn't right for either of them.

They both moved back home to

get better balance.

Are we getting to a point

where training camps are fading away?

Now, they both are still with their camp,

but they're doing it from home.

And they both said they got to see it.

Now they could replicate it at home.

Yeah.

So your thoughts.

I think you hear it a lot.

I think women say it a lot.

It's it can just become like

a straight up competition

every single day and you're

wearing yourself down.

And I think that's can be good and bad.

Like too much of that is

just going to wear you down.

But it also probably drives

like the like intensity does drive.

your, your progression.

So like,

I think you get a lot of bang for

your buck out of that,

but I don't know how

long-term sustainable it is.

They're still training with

high level athletes though.

So they still can compare.

They're just closer to home

and they probably like, it's almost like,

like, like James said,

um, in his interview with you, like he,

he has a better support

system being at home, um,

with his family there and

stuff like that.

So I think everyone's different.

Um, you know,

do you need to go into

training camp like for multiple years?

Probably not.

Like,

I think it's good to experience it maybe.

And then, you know,

have some learn from people,

but learn from,

different style of athletes

have different type of

people that can chase you

or that you can get,

or that you can chase in workouts.

But I think ultimately you

still have to be able to

train well on your own to do, I think,

well in this sport.

Um,

but I understand them going back home.

Like it can be mentally draining, uh,

being in an environment

like that every day.

I think as long as they're

surrounded by good people, that's the,

that's the fun part about

training is who you're, who you're with.

And if you're having fun training, um,

that's, that's, what's important.

Yeah.

Yeah.

James pointed out that he

needs to be around people.

Like he's not,

it's really hard for him to be by himself,

uh,

in a garage doing what he needs to do.

It doesn't mean he won't do it,

but he needs to have those

times where he goes to a

gym and he's around other people.

And just to clear this up,

Craig says James trains with Cole.

He said on our podcast, maybe once a week,

because Cole really likes to train alone.

James likes to train with people.

And so like once a week,

they kind of get together

and Cole helps James out.

I thought he said once a

week they do the workouts together,

like a similar workout.

I think they work out more

than once a week.

He said he was there almost every day,

but they join their workouts once a week.

That's what I understood

from the interview.

Okay.

I didn't fully get that, but okay.

That's what I thought.

Because Cole was in the

hospital for three months

and only home to train an hour a day.

for a lot of that but um

okay um jonathan ortega

says moving to a city

without your support system

takes a lot and a lot of

mental agility and strength

yeah yeah I mean I think if

you don't want to see the

burnout that we're seeing

in some of these

teens and girls, like the camp,

the camps could be

contributing to that a little bit.

Yeah.

Hattie said that when she

trained with Kelly Baker,

they couldn't turn it off.

Right.

And that wasn't healthy either.

Right.

Even though it'd be like, Hey,

we're both hurting today.

Let's take it easy.

Three, two, one go happens and bam,

they're competing again.

Yep.

Which is why I think, you know,

being in an affiliate program,

taking a class wad here and there,

stepping away from your program,

I think goes a long way.

Mentally, just physically, you know,

you don't have to even go, you know,

you're not going against people that are,

you know,

your games athlete or your competitors,

but you're just having fun

with the community.

Like,

I think it's just an important part

of staying more mentally in the game,

I guess.

Yeah.

I think, who was it?

Someone did a post about it the other day.

When I'm in California,

I do a class WOD almost all the time,

and it's fun.

It's great.

When I'm at my affiliate,

I'll WOD with different

people a lot of days versus

just always by myself.

Jonathan clears it up.

Jonathan, if you don't know,

did James' vlog from West

Coast Classic...

So he was with James that whole weekend.

They train in the same space,

I think not like same programming.

Yeah,

I think he was explaining to me that

once a week,

they try to merge their

programming together for

one day to train together

on that one day.

I can't imagine training by myself.

I just, I can't.

When I'm in the garage,

there's no intensity.

Have you been going to the affiliate?

I don't have a car.

So I'm really stuck.

I shouldn't say no intensity,

but it's definitely not the

same intensity.

Right.

But that's where I say like,

you have to learn to be

good training on your own.

Like as you,

you have to be able to train with people,

but also like to train on

your own and push yourself

and not be solely dependent

on other people goes a long way.

Like sometimes some of the

best mental workouts that I

have are just like when I'm

alone at the gym,

And it's like you do the

workout and you just feel

so accomplished after.

And when you are competing,

you think back on those

moments when you were alone

and suffered literally by yourself.

So you've got to get better, Scott.

I think there's those days

where that competitive

voice in my head is really

tough on myself to push.

And those are good days

where I finish and I'm like, man,

I really conquered that that day.

Yeah.

But I was much better at

that when I was younger than I am today.

Just being flat out honest.

I get that win once or twice a week,

where when I was younger,

I was five days a week, six days a week,

pushing myself to the limit.

All right.

So the last question is,

as it gets dark in Canada.

Yes.

You went from like this

bright room to all of a sudden, whoosh.

Yeah,

I have my one window just a little

bit open.

I accidentally closed Instagram,

so hold on one second.

So the question that we,

Lex is now putting in these

questions of the week, which would be,

what I want to do is have

you guys in the comment

section on YouTube,

give us suggestions for a

question of the week.

And we'll come up with

something and put it out

there to everybody and come

up with our answers.

But what I'm going to do tonight,

since Lex put this in the notes,

is question of the week.

And that is,

what movement should be

removed from all CrossFit competitions?

And what prompted this is

there was a competition in

California where...

this movement was programmed

and called either,

it was called duck walks or

described as duck walks.

I think it's more of like a waddle.

Yeah.

That is not what I was picturing.

They had a freestanding

handstand pushups too.

It was like a nine, six or nine, seven,

five ring muscle ups and

then freestanding handstand pushups.

And then in between each round was,

30 feet or something of the

duck walk the swaddle walk

or something something like

that like sent it to me

yeah so I mean that one

like look it looks somewhat

functional it's just funny

Like I had broad jumps for

distance in a qualifier

this year for NorCal Classic.

Like I did all the qualifier

workouts and then I had an invite.

So I didn't end up having to

submit it though.

But it was just like, I felt so goofy.

I was just,

it was like 25 foot down and

backs of just like broad jump.

But you're not doing a full broad jump.

You're just like bunny

hopping and then coming back.

And I was like, what am I doing?

Yeah.

What would you remove from

competition that you've seen out there?

Well,

Lex and I were talking and we were

saying something that's

brand new that hasn't been

really kind of tested somewhere.

It's just hard to implement

sometimes on the standards.

And then some very,

very high level skills that...

when the field is just not there, like,

do they need freestanding

handstand pushups in a local ish comp?

You know,

you have them at the games one time,

two times, right.

And in 2021, and then this past year, like,

I don't know that people

are so proficient in that, you know,

it can cause injuries for

some to kind of come down on their neck.

And if they're not really used to that,

um,

would say something like the

ring handstand push-ups

would be something exactly

what I would say I would

not like it's not

functional it's stupid it's

people are doing kind of

like a bench press like

it's hard to standardize um

something like that I don't

think should be programmed

um what else my my opinion

is dips should be off the table

dips are a great strength accessory,

but every time they're put

in like a competition,

the injury rate goes so

high because they're not

meant to be done at highway

speed and they're impossible to judge.

Yeah.

Cause you get, you get the, the beat,

the bobbing bird,

you get all different forms

and formations of it,

whether it's on parallettes, matador ring,

whatever it all,

it all turns into a cluster.

The strict ring muscle-up

was hard to judge at the

regionals in 2016, I think it was.

2015, 2016, somewhere around there.

You looked at Matt Fraser.

He was kind of doing a

little bit of his hip were kind of

Helping out a little bit

like a true strict

calisthenic ring muscle up

is I feel like not that

many people in our sport

really do it strict.

Like they kind of come back,

their feet come back and

then they lean back.

They're getting some

momentum a little bit within the strict.

So that's a tough one.

I think that they've tried to implement.

I thought the games did a

good job last year in the team division,

making it from a seated

position where you then can

lift your feet off the ground.

And then it's strict ish from the floor.

I think if you're going to

do the strict ring muscles,

you have to do it from like

that seated position where

your feet can't come behind you.

And if there's a little bit of a,

of a hip there, it is what it is.

You're still going from a

seated position to a supported position.

I think that was, um,

fun in that way but if

you're from a dead hang

position I think that's a

tough one to do yeah if

you're if you're an og

crossfit fan like things

were wild in like 12 and 13

and 14 where people were

getting maimed and hurt on

high hurdles that didn't

give on I mean the kevin

ogar situation like it just

wasn't safe back then

And I think a lot of that

has been removed from the

competitions and they've

done a good job of that.

I hope I just don't want to

go back to that direction

where people are just doing

wild shit at comps.

Well,

it just seems like a lot of times

comps want to like be different and, uh,

special and do unique things.

And sometimes they overdo it.

Um,

I think a competition that

does unique things,

but does it in the right

way is something like crash.

Like, like Jr has implemented, you know,

unique things,

but it's well thought of

people can still do the movements.

Um, you know,

it's a little twist on certain elements,

like just having like the

dumbbells with a little rope for handles,

like just like small stuff like that.

Um,

but most of the competitions I feel

like don't have the right, um,

I don't know.

It just doesn't really work.

It doesn't have the right field, too.

Because Crash has some good

people to do these unique things.

The Games is a place where

you can do certain unique

things because you have a lot of events,

like 12 to 15 events.

So you can have a very niche

event that's very...

different and odd,

but these local comps that have, you know,

four to five events most times,

and you have these weird stuff,

I would try to stay away

from brand new things like

that or accessory type movements.

The last thing I'm going to

say is about this is if

you're doing it for a

streamed competition, um,

Something in your mind has

to think about how this is

going to look to the spectator.

And the one thing I have to

give Dave credit for is he

seems to think about that more than most.

Is he perfect?

Nobody's perfect.

But like before Dave came back and Boz,

and I love Boz,

but the seated legless into

the handstand pushups into

the seated legless was a bad look.

sitting on the floor,

crawling over to the wall

to do your handstand pushup,

crawling back to the rope

and sitting there, and then doing it.

It just had a bad look.

The movements separated were fine,

but that combination had a

bad look with the transitions.

And that's not what you want

people to see on TV,

to represent CrossFit.

Yeah,

I think Boz has had some really great

ideas with some of the

movements that he's added

and has really made

athletes go back to basics

in terms of strict

movements and stuff like that.

I think that Dave's vision

of like what a workout looks like,

like on the layout,

he changed the game in

terms of programming and

having different

competitions really think

about that in terms of how you're,

how you're programming, how,

how to make it look for, you know,

for a regular fan.

Can you see the race?

Can you understand what's going on?

So having both of them together, I think,

you know, hopefully it comes with,

great programming this year at the games,

and I have no doubt that

that will come because, you know,

you have two good brains

working together there.

But, yeah.

Yeah.

And I think the more we get

away from machines, the better.

Like, we showed this year that at semis,

you could run,

you could find a way to get

a run in in a lot of

different situations

without having to use the air runner.

So...

That's that.

Before we spin out of here,

they're talking a lot about

this CrossFit documentary.

It was announced last year

that instead of their

traditional CrossFit doc,

they were bringing an

outside media company to do

a documentary of the CrossFit Games.

They said they were doing

that so that it would have

a quicker release than in years past.

It's still not out.

Dave brought it up in his week in review,

said that he had seen us, seen it,

but they were still looking

for distribution or were

close to distribution or

something to that effect.

But it's still not at work.

We're almost to the 2024

games and the 2023 game doc

is still not out.

Apparently it's coming out

after the games.

That's what Hiller says.

Let's make sure we give him

credit for that.

I don't care.

I'm confused.

This is CrossFit hired a

media team to come film.

I'm so confused.

Why?

Just like golf does full swing,

Formula One does whatever

that one is on Netflix.

Was it ESPN that did this one?

No, they just broadcast.

I think it was an outside

media company that didn't

even know much about CrossFit.

It was supposed to be a

different perspective so

that it could promote what

this was outside of our normal space.

I just feel like when you

should release it is like

in this dead space between

let's say semifinals and the games.

That's when, you know,

you release it there,

you get the hype build up

for the CrossFit games, for the, you know,

the master's division, the adaptive,

all of these games,

the teenagers coming up, you know,

this window right now where

it's just kind of that, because, you know,

we picked up from March really until now,

pretty much every week

there's something going on now.

this is when you release it.

Get people excited, get more tickets sold.

My question to you is,

are you excited about it?

We had the Butters behind the scenes.

That wasn't there.

We had Savan behind the scenes.

We had Craig Ritchie behind the scenes.

We had countless other media

companies spitting out

content from the games.

At this point,

if you're us that watch this

stuff all the time,

do you even care at this point?

well is this why they aren't

I mean I guess they did end

up sharing savans behind

the scenes but like I don't

feel like they did right

away is this partly why

they aren't like sharing

content because they paid

for this outside content

and they're trying to want

to get that out and want

the views there and I think

that's stupid you have so

many people willing to do

it for free good content

like just do that and share

that don't pay an outside media company

So I think what the concept was,

was get these people who

are not in our space to do

something to attract people

from outside the space in.

I get what that is like on the surface.

But at this point,

you're a year after the fact.

Like, I think we've lost all that.

I agree.

And if you're inside our space,

we have so many alternatives to this.

And we've probably all

watched some versions of this.

Hell Mayhem did a behind the scenes.

Like there were so many behind the scenes,

so many media companies

spitting out stuff.

If you wanted to know what went on,

is there anything left to learn?

I mean,

if they go through the lesser known

athletes, but that never is the case,

it's going to be the same stories of,

the top athletes.

And then you start looking

at the interviews.

It's like, Oh,

I heard this already on this part.

So it's like, nothing's nothing's new.

That's my point at the, you know,

why get upset about it?

Are we really missing anything?

I don't giant waste of money to me.

So unless they put on

Netflix and then it starts, because then,

yeah,

if they were to put it like on

Netflix or something like that, then,

then it's, it's fine.

It doesn't matter if it's later,

it's going to get, you know,

our current audience, you know,

that are huge fans of the

sports that are going to watch it anyways,

because we watch everything.

And then if it's on Netflix,

it's going to get new

people to watch it and then

get more people into the

affiliates ideally.

Um, but.

That's a big if, right?

Like whether it's just on YouTube.

So a lot of people have

posted these pictures.

I think Hiller, a big one.

Someone else made a comment

about it on Coffee Pods and

Wads around the whiteboard.

CrossFit had 50 media under

their umbrella at the games.

And they paid this outside

media company to come in

and produce a documentary.

What did they put out?

It was actually on Death By.

It was Tommy Marquez.

Tommy Marquez said they had

50 contracted media plus

this outside documentary company.

Nothing came out because

they're all worried about

their own jobs and their own...

thing that they're not

working together and for

tommy to rip on crossfit

media that means

something's really bad yeah

I mean there's a lot of

media that needs to be put

out there by crossfit for

the affiliates for the sport

For health, like CrossFit Health,

there's a lot of different

directions that they could be going.

And it just seems like not much.

No direction, right?

When you have that many

people taking up spots and

you're blocking other media

companies from coming in

and you're producing nothing.

Yeah.

That's a problem.

Right.

And you have these people

that are doing it for free,

knocking at the door,

and you're not letting them in.

It's... That is the most

disheartening thing.

I mean...

Jamie,

you've been with me for the last two

years.

We scratch, claw,

fight for every little bit

of access we can get.

And I think we have a good

relationship with the higher-ups.

It just doesn't get down to anybody else.

Yeah.

Like that shit that went

down at Syndicate Crown and

nobody else had to deal

with what we had to deal with,

doing the same thing we were doing,

If more people like and

subscribe to the channel,

we're going to get bigger,

and then you don't have that problem.

So like and subscribe.

Yeah.

I'm doing the work for you.

Like, subscribe, and hit that notifier.

It's a popularity thing, though.

That's what it is.

It is.

It 100% is.

It's just a popularity,

whether you're in the group or not.

Same stuff.

I think Jamie is just over it all.

I don't even know.

Like Chris says, share.

Share it with your friends.

Let them know we're here.

But I do have to thank you

all that are doing this

because we have hit a huge growth spurt.

We added 78 subscribers in

the last 28 days.

and I couldn't thank you

guys enough that share

button is a big one yeah

but yeah we don't want to

fight and claw we're done

with that but with that

We have one last thing.

What's that?

She's clapping.

I thought they were feet.

I thought she was clapping.

That's Judy's only fans page.

Come check out her feet.

It looked like feet to me.

It didn't look like hands.

Checkpoint Productions, I think,

is the media company doing the doc.

I haven't heard of them.

um so spin polls came out

this week jamie and I are

voters on that apparently

we're analysts in some

people's minds but but

we're picked as that by the

same people who forget that

we are yeah uh judy says

they're little bound asian

food oh my gosh

So they came out this week.

We had to make our picks.

Spoiler alert.

Saxon Pancheck did not get

my number one vote.

Jeez.

But did Adler get your number one vote?

Of course he did.

Because that's where it has

been for the last two freaking years.

And Emma for your number one female

I may have switched that up.

I was just about to say, I was like,

are you putting that?

For who?

Did Jamie convince you

enough with her riff last week?

She did not.

Oh, you picked someone else.

I picked Laura, number one.

You're crazy.

Laura, Tia, Emma.

The Emma news scared me.

I agree.

I agree.

I moved her down.

I moved her down to six.

So Kenneth, I did not drop Tia.

Tia actually stayed the same.

My poll before this month was Emma, Tia,

Laura.

I switched it to Laura, Tia, Emma.

I flip flopped one in three.

Yeah.

I think that when you see

what Tia did in the East,

it's easy to forget what

Laura did in Europe.

And Laura would have won a

couple of the events against Tia.

Which ones were they?

She would have won the snatch ladder.

She would have won the row handstand.

Yeah.

Strength and power output.

Right.

I mean, you're not beating... Yeah,

Laura's...

I think it would have been

close on the rope climb.

It wasn't a rope climb workout.

It was an echo bike workout.

Like you had enough time.

No one like Laura has one of

the best legless rope climbs too,

but that was more like the

echo bike played a major factor.

Even for the females,

you have enough time to recover.

If it was, if it was 10 echo bike,

two legless rope climbs,

10 box jump overs,

it's a completely different

workout for the females.

Now it becomes a legless rope climb event.

barely any females struggle

to get the rope climbs.

And normally they do, right?

Like normally the bottom half of the field,

like quite a bit are missing.

So I'm not surprised that Laura's,

you know, right there with T on that.

So I think that Laura and T

are going to go head to

head on a lot of things very close.

My hope and prayer is that

there's no strict deficit

handstand pushups.

That's it.

Why?

Because Laura will get smoked.

I do want to... Again,

why did everyone... Why did

Ariel... If you're Laura Horvath,

you want that to show up.

Because you want to beat Tia

with that movement in the field.

You don't want to beat Tia

and people will be like, oh,

there was no handstand pushups.

If you're Laura Horvath,

You want to be like, I won last year,

and I'm going to win again this year.

Bring on whatever event, and I will win.

And I feel like that's Laura's mentality.

I'm sure that's Laura's mentality.

It's just not mine as an analyst.

Yeah.

I want her to have that

mental thought process.

As an analyst,

I'm just hoping to make my pick right,

it doesn't go that way.

Do you feel like there's

more females right now that

can kind of get in between?

Like,

is the field not as deep this year

without, let's say, like Emma Carey,

Paige Powers?

Who else is missing?

Mal O'Brien.

Or these newer, you know.

athletes and the rise of

like Alex goes in and Ariel and, you know,

Abigail Domet that had a great show.

Like,

are those athletes going to start

adding up to already those

top tier and get some middling?

Like, do you think,

or do you think it's just

the same four or five athletes?

I think there is a tier of top tier.

Yeah.

I think Raptus McGowan, Lohan is an.

Lawson, Tia, Haley.

Don't count out Haley.

Haley is a top 10.

Taylor's a top five athlete

almost every year.

She is.

I'm like, I, you know,

I know that you say area

low and because of her podium,

Haley Adams has had the

best performances as a us

female athlete above, in my opinion,

Carrie Pierce, even like pretty close.

Yeah.

Pretty close to like a Carrie Pierce.

She just doesn't have the podium.

She just doesn't have the podium,

but she's that Scott Pancha.

She's that fourth, fifth, sixth.

She's so consistent.

I think she's going to have

events where she middles,

but I think that the field

has gotten stronger in the

year she took off.

So is she, probably.

Yeah, I think she has, too.

That front squat workout

really made me... And she's

great on machines.

I don't even think it was

the front squats.

I think it was the dubs.

I think it was the front squats.

A little bit more.

And dubs a little bit,

but I think it was a lot of

the front squats.

So I do want to address this.

Why did Ariel drop from everyone's radar?

She finished third last year.

She didn't drop from my radar.

I put her in that top tier of athletes.

I think she's just such a

consistent athlete.

So people forget about her.

Like she's just always going

to be a top top 10 and on every event,

like she doesn't have low finishes.

So people just,

she just kind of floats is

always in the mix.

So people forget about her

cause she might not win a

bunch of events.

Um, although she has one, you know, events,

I think she does have definitely home run,

uh, potential,

but I think she just does

it more quietly.

But I think she's really relevant.

She doesn't have major holes at all.

I think you take Raptus, Magawa, Lowen,

and Gazan,

and you put them in a bag and

shake them up,

and they could fall in any order.

Yeah, it depends on the programming.

And Abby Domet has the

opportunity to move into that,

but I want to see it at the

games before I move her into that.

Daniel Brandon in there too, maybe.

Close to those athletes.

I don't have her up there, but you can.

Do you like Emma Tall?

I think she's... I do,

but I think they all have

bigger holes than the

people we mentioned.

We'll see.

Time will tell.

Should be a hell of a fight.

Yeah, the men is crazy.

Beyond crazy.

Yeah, I'm excited for that.

That you put all the top

seven or eight in a bag and

you have no idea.

And it's not just the

competitiveness of the field.

It's the personalities that

are starting to come out of

the men's side.

And that's making it more exciting.

Yeah.

Yeah, the trash talking, the

the whole bit, it's going to be amazing.

And then you,

you have some unknown still

coming at like yellow,

like how much better is he

now with the year under his belt and you,

and he's got the same body

as Hopper and Dallin and

that whole crew Fikowski.

Gosh, it's going to be crazy.

I, that was so, so hard to pick.

How do I get Saxon on the podium?

You're not letting this go tonight.

I didn't even have Saxon near the top five,

okay?

Yeah.

Agree.

Anyway.

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