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Need a dose of creativity and accountability? Hosts Monica and Candace are prioritizing ART and talking about it in a real way. One take, no script, and no filters… just two humans inviting listeners in for a fun weekly chat about what they’re making now and what is inspiring them.
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Speaker 1
Hello.
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Speaker 2
Hello, hello. What episode is this?
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Speaker 1
Episode 18.
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Speaker 2
Welcome to episode 18.
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Speaker 1
Of As We art.
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Speaker 2
As we art.
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Speaker 1
I'm Monica. I'm Candice.
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Speaker 2
We're really glad you're here.
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Speaker 1
We are. We're really glad we're here. We've been missing for a couple weeks.
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Speaker 2
We have. We've been missing. I was like, how do we do this again? Yeah.
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Speaker 1
We were setting up and it was not pretty.
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Speaker 2
So yeah.
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Speaker 1
And we watched but didn't I don't,
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Speaker 2
We didn't close the studio door so cats, cats might appear. Join us. But we can't start over because we do our podcast in one take. Yes. If you are new here. We're so glad you're here. And if you're not new here, we're so glad you're here. What we're doing every week is we're talking about what art we're working on and what's inspiring us.
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Speaker 2
We don't very much sums it up. We never know yet. Sometimes we have a clue what the other person's been doing art wise. But this conversation's organic. We're trying to really, like, fight the AI thing and be human. So we surprise ourselves sometimes.
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Speaker 1
Yes, but we do inhabit the same home. So occasionally we catch a glimpse of what the other one is up to.
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Speaker 2
Yes.
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Speaker 1
Yeah. Sometimes we know each other's art, but we very rarely know what we're going to say about it.
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Speaker 2
True. So let's get started. Episode 18. Do you wanna go first?
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Speaker 1
Oh, I get to go first.
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Speaker 2
We gotta get back into it.
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Speaker 1
I know I feel a little like a train just starting to go. It's a little sluggish.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah, we. We've done this every week since the beginning of 2026, and we're really proud of this. We haven't missed a week, but when we traveled, we were like, we can't really do it. We don't want to do a podcast from vacation because we didn't bring a laptop, but we also didn't want to record in advance because then it doesn't seem authentic.
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Speaker 2
So here we are. After two weeks, we're back. We're glad. We're glad to be here.
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Speaker 1
Okay. And we're chugging.
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Speaker 2
But we've been home for a couple of days and we got we did some art. So, Candice, what did you do?
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Speaker 1
So this week I actually started working on a linocut that I had shown a drawing for, a couple of weeks ago, and it is a crystal ball, linocut that I had drawn. I finally transferred it to some linoleum. So it's cold, so it's bending weird. Sorry. I finally transferred it to some linoleum and then did the carving.
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Speaker 1
And again, 20 bucks and you can touch it. There's so many textures.
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Speaker 2
Oh, my God, there's, like, a thousand cuts. I'm going to use my long arm.
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Speaker 1
Thank you.
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Speaker 2
To the camera. If you are listening on the podcast, you are missing out on some visuals. But just go ahead and jump on to Instagram.
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Speaker 1
That as we Art podcast. You can check out what we're working on this week. If people hashtag at as we art, we can see what you're working on and we love sharing with everybody.
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Speaker 2
So wait, before you show the test print, honey, these letters are backwards. How the hell did you keep that straight in your head?
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Speaker 1
Well, full disclosure, when I went to transfer it originally to some tracing paper, I was like, I'll be smart. Trace it backwards. So I traced it backwards, and then I transferred it to a linoleum and even outlined it in marker and everything before I realized, wait, this isn't backwards. This is going to print backwards. Oh, no. So I thought I was being smart by tracing it backwards, but that didn't work out well.
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Speaker 1
Don't do that. Don't be me. Lesson learned? Yes. Lesson learned.
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Speaker 2
So when you do the letters, when you draw your pattern, you draw them normal normally. Yep. And then what?
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Speaker 1
But then I put tracing paper over it and go over it with pencil, like a soft pencil, so that I can then flip that tracing paper on to the linoleum. And I rub it with. It's called a boning tool.
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Speaker 2
Oh, sexy I know.
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Speaker 1
It's normally for, like, folding paper. If you're a book maker, it makes those really hard creases.
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Speaker 2
And you need a visual. I'll take a picture. I'll.
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Speaker 1
Yeah, I'll bring one on one time. It just looks like a weird. It looks like a garden steak where you would like, label what is in your garden. Okay. That's exactly what it looks like. So I rub the tracing paper with the boning tool and it transfers the pencil onto the linoleum.
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Speaker 2
Backwards letters.
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Speaker 1
Backwards. Okay. But I was like, oh, I'll trace it backwards and kill two birds with one stone. And what I really did was fuck up.
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Speaker 2
So you created a linear cut that people need a mirror to enjoy? Yes.
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Speaker 1
Which, you know, could be fun one day.
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Speaker 2
But you had to redo it with the letter the right way. And then you made a test print.
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Speaker 1
And then I made a test print. I made two test prints. So good. So these are my test prints. The first one is the one that Monica is holding, and the second one is the one that I am holding. And I like the first one better. I over inked the second one, so I lost some of the texture in the stand.
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Speaker 2
Explain if you are listening to the podcast and you don't get to see the visual. What is this, a linocut? Of course.
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Speaker 1
This is a lino kit. It's a crystal ball that says Good fortune above it, with phases of the moon below it. It's a woowoo crystal ball. I just thought it'd be fun. It looks like a tarot card. I did a lot of texture in the background. That's almost like tattoo style kind of clouds looking thing.
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Speaker 2
Love it. And the sand has some interesting texture.
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Speaker 1
Yeah. I wanted to see if I could add, like, a wood texture or some stippling, so I tried both. What's that word? Stippling. What is that? It's the little dots.
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Speaker 2
Okay, I if you've.
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Speaker 1
Ever seen a drawing that's laying a lot made out of dots, it's called stipple. Stipple or.
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Speaker 2
Stippling.
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Speaker 1
Yes.
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Speaker 2
Love it I love it. This is so frickin good. So is this. You said test print but this looks like a final.
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Speaker 1
No, it's a test print. There's some chatter I need to remove. I think I want the crystal ball completely clear. I don't want to leave that chatter in there.
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Speaker 2
Oh, really?
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Speaker 1
Okay. Yeah. And then I need to make some of the texture on the stand a bit more pronounced so that if I put a little bit too much ink on, it still shows.
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Speaker 2
The letters are awesome.
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Speaker 1
Well thank you.
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Speaker 2
This is so good. So congratulations on this linocut canvas. I am so impressed. If you've been following along, you know, linocut is new.
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Speaker 1
To.
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Speaker 2
Our life, Candace's life, new ish six months now. And so this is, I think, incredible, so detailed and so, so intricate with so many different types of cuts and patterns. It's pretty awesome.
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Speaker 1
If you just heard of me, our cats were wrestling.
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Speaker 2
I don't know, it, I think are mikes, and they're.
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Speaker 1
Pretty good at not picking.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, because it's raining out and cars are going by. We're near a slider door, and I don't think that sound shows up on the podcast.
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Speaker 1
Let's hope not.
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Speaker 2
I might be wrong. So if you heard cats meowing, they're fine. They're friendly.
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Speaker 1
Wrestling, having a little wrestling match.
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Speaker 2
Well I'm impressed. That was a lot of steps. And you worked on that this weekend. And, even after coming home from vacation and having to, like, get back into the vacation, not vacation mode. Yeah, get out of vacation mode. Real life laundry and work and responsibilities.
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Speaker 1
I've had to take a lot of naps, though. A lot more naps than usual after recovering from a vacation. Yeah, it was,
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Speaker 2
It was a trip. It was a trip to parts to it. Two different trips and one Santa Fe and San Diego. Yep. And we're happy to be home. It was a great trip. We feel very privileged and lucky to have been able to go on this incredible adventure.
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Speaker 1
We met some awesome people. Yeah, it was really fun.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, but it was.
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Speaker 1
I'm just getting older and need naps.
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Speaker 2
That's great.
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Speaker 1
What do you work on this week?
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Speaker 2
Monica so for those of you who know, I'm driven by a deadline and I love a deadline. Not a self-imposed one, but an actual deadline from the outside.
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Speaker 1
So B, your memoir title driven by a deadline.
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Speaker 2
Driven by a deadline.
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Speaker 1
Or it can be the penny suckers.
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Speaker 2
First out, not driven by that. Yeah. So the first thing I did is I worked on my piece by piece. This is this blank white rectangle. 150 artists got a little clue to a bigger puzzle. We don't know what the big painting is yet. We won't know till next month at the reveal. Mine is pretty much all green, with a couple of pattern lines and some white triangles.
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Speaker 2
I can't wait to see how this fits into the big picture. So if you're again, if you're just listening, no problem. Jump on Instagram so you can see what the heck I'm talking about. My final piece let me go the right direction. My piece number is 23 out of 150 randomly assigned, and mine is. I've finished. And so what I've done is a lot of different greens with acrylic paint.
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Speaker 2
I use white puffy paint for the white triangles, and then I affixed pennies. The American one sent to coin.
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Speaker 1
That has now been retired.
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Speaker 2
It's been retired. But I thought we have this jar of coins. And I pulled out all these pennies and I painted them to match and affixed them, to just to differentiate some of the lines because I want it you can use they encourage unusual materials. I didn't want it just to be flat 3D paint for me. I need I need some structure.
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Speaker 2
That's just how I operate. And I wanted to do something I've never worked with before. And, from afar, when you're looking at 150 panels on a wall, sometimes it's hard to find your piece. And, I don't think there'll be other artists who use coins. That's my hope. And so I'm proud of this piece of work. I can't wait to see what the big reveal is, which will certainly, you know, take a picture of it in all its glory and share it with the podcast.
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Speaker 2
The other awesome thing about this particular exhibit is the gallery where it's happening allows artists to contribute another piece of work. And again, it's all due by the end of this week. So I, I have a deadline and this is where I'm sort of rushing. I had designed an octopus. Some of you remember I don't have the old, pattern with me.
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Speaker 2
So in the previous episode, I had shown my pattern, but the thing I didn't like about it was that the legs of the octopus were cut off at the frame. Like, I always draw way too big. I can't draw small. I draw a big thing, even if I have a set square footage. So I really wanted all the legs to show.
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Speaker 2
So I redrew the pattern and I have the legs going outside of the frame and curling back in, which makes me so excited. So my new pattern.
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Speaker 1
Can keep Monica in a box. Nobody puts baby in a corner and nobody keeps Monica in a box.
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Speaker 2
Oh my god. So Dirty Dancing was a very important movie in my life. I was like, I don't know, maybe fifth or sixth grade. I was so I could relate to baby so much. First of all, she had curly hair and a big nose like hello. She also like wasn't typically pretty. Hello. The other reason why I loved it is because at one point her real name is revealed in the movie.
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Speaker 2
Her name is baby. Throughout the movie, do you remember her real name?
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Speaker 1
Frances, right. You do.
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Speaker 2
Remember? Yes. Johnny asks her. So her name is Frances. And that meant a lot to me because that's my middle name. So Dirty Dancing is a very important movie to me. And yes, nobody puts Frances in a corner. I drew my octopus outside the lines. I have a 12 inch by 12 inch box here, but I made the octopus legs and head outside of the lines.
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Speaker 2
The the stipulation of this piece is a 20 inch in either any direction 20in and I from diagonal to diagonal. With this outside I just squeak under 20in, so I'm stoked. The other thing I did is I started cutting. I'm still using a wispy blue for my octopus. I'll show you the head.
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Speaker 1
Reaching for glass, which.
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Speaker 2
Is a glass I picked, and I've already ground it, so this is safe to do. This is the blue wispy glass I've picked for the octopus. I had a different glass picked for the background. Some of you remember from last episode I showed this awesome. Like textured teal, but I thought they would kind of compete with each other and I wanted something more bold to differentiate the two glass.
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Speaker 2
So I picked an awesome Oceanside glass. Makes this incredible opaque lime green. So the lime green box, a blue wispy octopus, and of course the suckers are pennies. Yeah, so I'm really excited about this combo. We called it Penny sucker.
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Speaker 1
I love that you tied your piece by piece, piece piece by piece.
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Speaker 2
Piece in hand.
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Speaker 1
Is your your octopus. That's.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. I'm glad you noticed that. That is one of the reasons why I really wanted to add pennies is because when you when you see the art and the big collage, it might not correlate with the art upstairs for the artist gallery of their, of their individual. So like I have done the piece by piece exhibit before with stained glass, which like correlates with my most common art form, but I just wanted to tie it in with Penny.
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Speaker 2
So I'm so glad you noticed that that link.
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Speaker 1
You're amazing. Yeah. Link.
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Speaker 2
So I'm about a third of the way, cutting and grinding. And I'll keep working on that this week, and we'll make sure we film an episode before I hand the art in, you know, because I want I want to show you guys the final, pieces. Sometimes it's our only chance to see them. This is a good thing.
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Speaker 2
But there have been moments where I. We haven't taken a picture of a final art piece, and we bring it to an exhibit, and it sells, and we never see it again. Yeah, yeah. Which is so strange, right? We have art in people's homes or businesses, and I don't even remember what it looks like. Yeah, yeah, I feel bad, but,
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Speaker 1
Gone but not forgotten.
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Speaker 2
Gone but not forgotten. So I'm trying to remember to take pictures of art before it goes off to its forever home. Yes. Yeah. So I was so happy to work on those two things. It was really fun and I'll keep working on my penny sucker octopus.
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Speaker 1
Awesome. Looks great. Good job! I love that lime green glass. That lime green is like one of my favorite glass choices ever. There's so many cool pieces of glass out there, but for some reason, my little ten year old boy 90s loving heart, just loves the neon green.
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Speaker 2
So this neon green is badass. And you, when we first got it, we had a few squares of it. You made some alien heads out of this color, but the eyes were. What's that glass called when it's like a.
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Speaker 1
Dichroic.
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Speaker 2
Or used dichroic?
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Speaker 1
No, I used iridescent, iridescent, iridescent glass.
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Speaker 2
Either way, a dichroic or iridescent glass. They both have a color shift. Like a little rainbow esque. Yeah. It was so badass. You should read. We should pull that pattern out. You guys, we we have kept all of our patterns that we've drawn and we've we, you know, we draw original patterns for everything we make in stained glass.
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Speaker 2
We've been doing it for years. We have over a thousand patterns. I'm easily. Yeah, easily stuffed into bins. But that alien's really a good one. It's kind of a simple.
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Speaker 1
I think I'd read redraw it okay. Because that was like one of the first patterns I drew when we started, and I could definitely improve upon it now. But yeah, we have a really sophisticated filing system for our stained glass patterns. It's called Throw It in a book, which happens to be a three ring binder, but.
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Speaker 2
No rings are being used.
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Speaker 1
No rings are being used, and the patterns are bigger than the binder. So if you shift it wrong, you get a face full of patterns.
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Speaker 2
It's so embarrassing when a fellow artists out there contacts us and asks us if they can see the pattern, or have the pattern, which we're always happy to share. We don't sell out patterns, we give them away. If you want to remake something we've made, have at it. That would be awesome. We ask that you send us a picture after just for our curiosity.
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Speaker 2
We can see how you interpreted the pattern.
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Speaker 1
As long as they're not making it for profit.
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Speaker 2
We don't care. We don't follow up. If you are an artist that asks us for a pattern we're sharing, that's just how we've always operated. I don't know, maybe we need to change that. I think we.
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Speaker 1
Need to rethink that. Maybe.
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Speaker 2
Anyway, but we really enjoy seeing other artists interpret, you know? But it is embarrassing when they're like, oh, we found this anatomical heart that you made. Can you share the pattern? It's like, we're going to need a minute because we have to dig through bins of paper and.
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Speaker 1
Allow us to go to the archives. Yeah.
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Speaker 2
It's this butcher block paper. Yes. And it's just stacks and stacks and stacks. There's no way. I mean, there might be a goal in the back of my mind someday to, like, organize our patterns. There's. I will tell you, I'll promise you it will never happen.
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Speaker 1
It'll happen. No. Yeah, it will, because I'll get involved. It'll have.
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Speaker 2
Okay, I should I should, clarify. I will not be organizing patterns, but Candice might some days. Okay. Do you have a pattern saving organization system for your linocut patterns?
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Speaker 1
Not yet, but I do have a file folder saved in, my online cart that I will buy one day. Good intentions.
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Speaker 2
All right, so we want to hear from you. What are you doing that's creative? What do you do to organize your creativity? And it doesn't have to be. List.
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Speaker 1
What? Help us.
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Speaker 2
Help us get organized. No, but we love to hear from you listeners out there. Whether you, text us, comment on YouTube, comment on Instagram, email us. We love to hear what you're working on, whatever, wherever you are in the process, it's all good. And whether it's like traditional art or not doesn't matter to us. We just want to know, like what?
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Speaker 2
You're working on this week that you're finding inspiring and fun.
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Speaker 2
I am so glad I brought water. Yeah, I almost didn't because guess what? I'm bout.
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Speaker 1
To.
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Speaker 2
Dam and let us know about, your organizational skills and whether they exist or not and what tools that that you use that work well, whatever.
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Speaker 1
And what you charge per hour. Because we might need you.
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Speaker 2
We oh, our our studio. It looks kind of organized from the outside. But underneath those workbenches. Yeah. Bins. Oh, shit. Yeah. Okay. Yep. Let's talk inspo. Candice.
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Speaker 1
My inspiration is organization. No.
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Speaker 2
Oh, yeah. Right. I got nervous for a minute. I'm like, oh, shoot. What's your inspiration?
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Speaker 1
My inspiration this week is we went on a trip and we got to go to this amazing art installation experience thing. I don't know how to explain it. You just have to go. It's called meow wolf. Meow meow meow. As in Kitty Wolf, as in how Utahns don't say the word correctly. They say wolf.
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Speaker 2
Oh. That's what a dog says.
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Speaker 1
Meow. Wolf.
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Speaker 2
No meow.
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Speaker 1
What's here? Utah. And it's meow with But it was amazing to see all this incredible, like interactive art. You can touch it and it makes sounds and oh, this is spinning. Yes, beanie. That's our black cats beanie.
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Speaker 2
Okay, don't.
00:20:04:10 - 00:20:05:29
Speaker 1
You just go across my keyboard, okay.
00:20:05:29 - 00:20:10:18
Speaker 2
He wrote he just wants to be part of this. So Meow Wolf, the art experience in Santa Fe.
00:20:10:18 - 00:20:38:22
Speaker 1
Yeah, it was amazing. Like, just to see all these things that people have created, these gigantic rooms of different themes and different types of art and it was just amazing. It was really inspiring. There was a lot of neon, which of course just tugs at my heartstrings. But it was really fun, and it was fun to experience it with a lot of other folks who aren't artists.
00:20:38:22 - 00:20:59:21
Speaker 1
We went with a big group of women that we were having a, girls trip with trip and they aren't like your typical artists like we are. And they loved it. And it was so much fun to see people immerse themselves in art and enjoy it so much. So it was really inspiring.
00:20:59:28 - 00:21:08:26
Speaker 2
It was hard to explain. It's not a museum, it's an experience. It's interactive. You can touch things, sit on things, play with things, things.
00:21:08:27 - 00:21:11:13
Speaker 1
It's like walking into a fun house made of art.
00:21:11:20 - 00:21:12:15
Speaker 2
Yes, but.
00:21:12:15 - 00:21:14:09
Speaker 1
You can like touch everything and.
00:21:14:10 - 00:21:16:02
Speaker 2
Slightly creepy at times, a little.
00:21:16:02 - 00:21:20:27
Speaker 1
Bit creepy. There was a room that was very clown themed. If you don't like clowns a little bit.
00:21:20:27 - 00:21:26:21
Speaker 2
Kind of weird. Mystery haunted house vibes a little tiny bit. I mean, I'm not saying it was nothing scary.
00:21:26:23 - 00:21:29:24
Speaker 1
But yeah, a little spooky, a little spooky sometimes.
00:21:29:24 - 00:21:47:11
Speaker 2
You described it as like a playground for adults. Although there were children there, lots of kids. Everything can be touched and climbed on, which was incredible because of all the amount of work and sculpture that went into these rooms. And there was like, I don't know, maybe 50 different rooms, closets, drawers, everything you could touch and open anything and everything.
00:21:47:14 - 00:22:01:06
Speaker 2
And there would be art, really imaginative art. So it's hard not to be inspired by it, but it is very hard to explain. So if you ever have a chance to visit a Meow Wolf, and I think there's 5 or 6 now across the United.
00:22:01:06 - 00:22:03:05
Speaker 1
States, they have several locations. Yeah.
00:22:03:05 - 00:22:15:19
Speaker 2
Please do. It's hard to explain, but you won't regret it. And you go at your own pace. You pay to get in. It was like 35 bucks you pay to get in, and you can spend hours there. And there's always more to explore.
00:22:15:22 - 00:22:18:12
Speaker 1
Spanish. Trying to grab my own.
00:22:18:14 - 00:22:19:14
Speaker 2
Son, you might need.
00:22:19:14 - 00:22:20:16
Speaker 1
To be.
00:22:20:16 - 00:22:22:12
Speaker 2
Excused from the podcast room.
00:22:22:12 - 00:22:23:13
Speaker 1
Yes.
00:22:23:16 - 00:22:25:25
Speaker 2
Frida came in as well, but she's keeping her distance.
00:22:25:26 - 00:22:29:25
Speaker 1
Ran away. I can see. Oh, I thought I saw her tail out there. Nope.
00:22:29:27 - 00:22:36:03
Speaker 2
Okay, so you were inspired by Meow Wolf, I love that, that's awesome.
00:22:36:05 - 00:22:39:15
Speaker 1
What about you? What was your inspiration for?
00:22:39:22 - 00:23:04:03
Speaker 2
For sure. Traveling. You know, we got to do something kind of unexpected. I'm going to hop on that traveling bit is that we talked to artists. Like, we talked to them, like, really talked to some artist, some work at Meow Wolf, some we met at a gallery on our, second part of our trip. We went to San Diego after Santa Fe.
00:23:04:05 - 00:23:27:01
Speaker 2
And I think talking to other artists and learning it, really asking about their day to day, their process, their challenges, their inspiration, what are they working on right now? And this podcast has been a way for us to hold ourselves accountable, to do art every week and to document it because unfortunately, like I said before, we sometimes make art.
00:23:27:01 - 00:23:36:13
Speaker 2
It goes out the door. We never see it again to think about it again. So we now have a record of like what we've done and how we've grown and how we've processed and how we, you know, trace letters backwards and then redo it.
00:23:36:18 - 00:23:37:25
Speaker 1
Nailed it.
00:23:37:27 - 00:23:42:00
Speaker 2
We want that process documented because it's just part of being artists. Okay.
00:23:42:00 - 00:23:51:10
Speaker 1
Spinnaker spinning in our light. It's time, it's time, it's time for him to go to the floor. Sweet little boy.
00:23:51:12 - 00:24:00:04
Speaker 2
Sorry, Bubs. We we will close the door from now on. God. Crazy cat. Ladies. Lesbians. Artists. Okay, every.
00:24:00:04 - 00:24:01:26
Speaker 1
Stereotype drive a Subaru.
00:24:01:26 - 00:24:24:01
Speaker 2
But no longer. We used to drive a Subaru. We now have a Toyota. It can't be that far out. Yeah, okay. My inspiration was talking to other artists about their process. And you know what? It got us thinking about how awesome it is to hear from other artists, their point of view, whether their challenges are relatable or not, whether their process is relatable or not.
00:24:24:01 - 00:24:25:27
Speaker 2
It was so interesting.
00:24:25:27 - 00:24:26:13
Speaker 1
Yeah.
00:24:26:15 - 00:24:29:09
Speaker 2
And what did we kind of talk about? The possibility.
00:24:29:16 - 00:25:16:20
Speaker 1
So we'd love to know your thoughts, but we think it would be interesting for you folks and for us if we were to contact some artists and occasionally have different artists on to interview, talk about their what they're creating and what's inspiring them. And, just have people, that are able to talk about like, mediums we aren't involved in or, you know, some areas of creativity that people don't necessarily align with our like, I don't know, being a deejay or just things that involve creativity and or super, creativity heavy, for lack of a better term.
00:25:16:23 - 00:25:18:08
Speaker 2
There aren't a lot of synonyms for creativity.
00:25:18:08 - 00:25:24:00
Speaker 1
There really are. But yeah, I mean, there probably are, but I'm no thesaurus.
00:25:24:02 - 00:25:42:19
Speaker 2
But wouldn't that be amazing? Like, we still want to hold ourselves accountable and talk about what we've done, but then maybe we could have guests come on and talk about their art or their songwriting or their writing or their crocheting. Like, we would love to find people just for 15 or 20 minutes. We can give them the questions ahead of time.
00:25:42:19 - 00:26:00:22
Speaker 2
What are you working on? What inspires you right now? That's it. And have an organic conversation with no script one take and put that into our podcast. It can't be every week, but maybe once in a while I'll throw in a guest for a little, change it up a little bit. Yeah, we want to know what you think out there.
00:26:00:25 - 00:26:19:07
Speaker 2
Candace and I went into this podcast just to see if if we could hold ourselves to it, which I think we're doing an awesome job, but I, I have to say, talking to other artists and, like, what? It's like selling out a gallery, what it's like working at a corporate. One of the artists we spoke to works at Meow Wolf.
00:26:19:07 - 00:26:40:04
Speaker 2
That is her full time job. She is salaried. It's a year round thing. She creates sculptures every day for this experience because Meow Wolf changes out their rooms every year or two. So when you revisit, you're going to have a different experience every time. And that was really interesting take on it because there's that corporate side of being a professional artist.
00:26:40:04 - 00:27:00:23
Speaker 2
So but there's also an independent side. So but we did talk about let's look at other mediums, other types of artists. Who else could maybe come on for 15 or 20 minutes and answer a couple questions, have a chat. What do you guys think out there? What if, as we art, expand it a little bit to include our listeners, maybe they would be a guest if they're working on something?
00:27:00:28 - 00:27:05:24
Speaker 2
Doesn't have to be like a, artist, quote unquote. It can be anyone. Yeah.
00:27:05:24 - 00:27:31:23
Speaker 1
It doesn't need to be someone you don't have to have, like a social media presence or a shop or any of that just speaking to other creatives. They don't have to be artists. You don't have to be known. But I think it might be interesting for us and for you folks out there to just get a different perspective, because you listen to us every week and, you know, we we want to keep it interesting.
00:27:31:23 - 00:27:58:19
Speaker 1
And, I think it might be nice just for people to hear what others are experiencing or how they're creative process works. And, you know, some might be professional artists, some might just love knitting or whatever, but it's all creativity. It's all art to us. And, yeah, we we want to know if you'd like to venture down that road.
00:27:58:22 - 00:28:22:03
Speaker 2
It's also a bit personally, I don't know if this is selfish or not, but we're inspired by other artists. Yes, we would love to know how other people work, what their process is, what they're thinking when they make things, how they're dealing with the current state of the world versus making art. I mean, some of these questions are a little deep, but we'll see where the conversations go and we might explore that.
00:28:22:03 - 00:28:49:04
Speaker 2
But we wanted to check with you guys, our audience and see what what do you think? Because art, in our experience, from where we sit, we often are at home. We work from home, we do art from home, and interacting with other artists in person doesn't happen as often as we'd like. And so this would be a nice way, even though it's virtual, to interact with other artists in a real time conversation.
00:28:49:07 - 00:29:16:19
Speaker 2
Yeah, I'm proud of us. We did art this week. We definitely were inspired. And like we said, the Santa Fe trip was unusual. We'd never been there. There's a incredible creative art scene in the middle of the desert. Like you wouldn't necessarily I it kind of like, came out of nowhere because when you're driving into Santa Fe and I'm not used to this landscape, it's beige there, there is beige, it is desert.
00:29:16:21 - 00:29:44:22
Speaker 2
And for me, I'm a color person. I need like bursts of color. And you find that in the art galleries there. It's like people's imagination just burst open with color in this. Like beige backdrop. It was kind of an interesting juxtaposition. Juxtaposition. Oh, what a word. Fancy. So that was part of our trip, and we got together there with one friend that we know from a long time ago at my oldest friend.
00:29:44:24 - 00:29:53:28
Speaker 2
Longest friend. But then we met a lot of new friends in this women's group. And we're not we're not the type of people that have ever gone on a girls trip.
00:29:53:29 - 00:29:55:20
Speaker 1
We ain't real social.
00:29:55:23 - 00:30:14:15
Speaker 2
Well, we're just not girls. Trips are kind of very particular group of women that like to do, like, I don't know, group dinners and wine tastings. And we're just, we're we just have never done that. So it was an interesting experience like I and to be able to talk to other people about books and art and life, it was cool.
00:30:14:22 - 00:30:15:19
Speaker 1
It was awesome.
00:30:15:21 - 00:30:30:26
Speaker 2
And then we got the chance to go to, Oceanside and Carlsbad, California, just Candice and I for a little, like, decompression ocean time. Awesome, awesome awesome. Palm trees and sunshine.
00:30:30:28 - 00:30:32:29
Speaker 1
Even with the waves out with the way.
00:30:33:02 - 00:30:53:17
Speaker 2
Some lots of color. There are flowers everywhere. And we love that part of the world. So we are back. We're ready. We're already doing more art. I will definitely have this octopus finished by the next time we, record because I have a deadline and we look forward to seeing you next time. But we want to hear your comments.
00:30:53:19 - 00:31:02:05
Speaker 2
Questions? Send us questions, send us comment, send us feedback, whatever you're working on. What do you think about having guests on this podcast? If you want to be a guest.
00:31:02:12 - 00:31:11:24
Speaker 1
Please let us know. So we said you don't have to be an established artist if you like. If you're like, oh, I, you know, garden on the weekends. Awesome. We want to hear about it.
00:31:11:24 - 00:31:15:04
Speaker 2
Yeah. So yeah, for sure. That would be so awesome.
00:31:15:09 - 00:31:15:29
Speaker 1
Yes.
00:31:16:02 - 00:31:20:28
Speaker 2
Hey. So we're good. We're episode eight as we art.
00:31:20:29 - 00:31:22:19
Speaker 1
We out.
00:31:22:21 - 00:31:27:23
Speaker 2
We're going to go do more art now. Yes. All right. I almost just said we love you guys.
00:31:27:25 - 00:31:28:16
Speaker 1
We do love you.
00:31:28:21 - 00:31:31:21
Speaker 2
I end conversations with that on the phone or what? Like we love you.
00:31:31:22 - 00:31:33:02
Speaker 1
Okay? Love you. Bye.
00:31:33:02 - 00:31:36:13
Speaker 2
Hey. Love you. Bye. All right, let's go.
00:31:36:13 - 00:31:39:16
Speaker 1
And we'll see you next week. Thanks for joining.
00:31:39:18 - 00:31:40:09
Speaker 2
Bye.