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Exploring Aging
Our kids may have seen a pediatrician, but as we get older, what are the advantages of seeing a geriatrician? If you could ask your doctor anything about aging, what would you ask? What if a seasoned geriatrician shared his secrets for aging? What would you do? Would you listen?
Speaker 1:And what if you could do it with grace? What if you could learn the top five mistakes adults are making that hinder or hurt their health. Would you avoid these mistakes if you could, or would you just carry on? If these questions have piqued your interest, then you're going to love hearing from doctor Frank Davis on this special edition of the Exploring Aging Podcast. Well, welcome back.
Speaker 1:You're listening to the Exploring Aging Podcast. I'm your host, Ray Sanders. And on our last podcast, doctor Frank Davis provided us with a a lot of great insights based on his years of experience in geriatric medicine. You know, the good news is for you and for me and my co host today is that doctor Davis is back in the house along with my cohost, doctor Bill Pierce and Greg McNeese. Doctor Davis, doctor Pierce, and Greg, it is so great to have you guys all back in the studio again today.
Speaker 1:We had such a good time last time. I'm really looking forward to unpacking more insights from doctor Davis. So, Bill, I know you loved having doctor Davis on the program last time. And we might add, he was your personal physician for years. And, you know, we picked up a few things.
Speaker 1:We paid him $20, and he gave us some thoughts on you. But we won't tell you what those are.
Speaker 2:Oh, oh, no. Yes.
Speaker 1:That client privilege, I think he no. He didn't violate it.
Speaker 3:I promise.
Speaker 4:Those stories will come out later.
Speaker 1:Dells will come out later. But I know I know you had some takeaways. We were sharing and talking. And even even after the last program, we didn't wanna leave because we had more questions for him. But you had several insights and takeaways, from the program.
Speaker 1:And I thought you ought to share with the listeners.
Speaker 2:Oh, I learned so much, and I enjoyed, even asking questions after we concluded the last podcast. And, Ray, I really like the point the part where you said you didn't know what a geriatrician is, and now you do.
Speaker 1:I do.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And we learned that why a person would go to a geriatrician, and and there are some really important reasons why you would go to a geriatrician. I appreciated hearing that. And then the practical advice that you gave us. Everybody who's 65 and older needs practical advice about what they should do every day to stay healthy.
Speaker 2:And I know we're gonna talk about that again Mhmm. Today. And then something I didn't expect to learn was all these supplements that are out there, you see them on TV, you see them on the shelves, the shelves are full of them, and you told us what to do. You told us, ask your personal physician about what supplements to take, and I appreciated that.
Speaker 3:That's right.
Speaker 4:And you know what I loved about it, doctor Davis, when you said and I never thought about it even though I'm trained in the field. But as we age, our our our systems, change over time. And what like, when you said, you're a doctor prescribing whatever medicine at a certain rate at a younger age is not many times, it could be not the same medicine prescription that needs to be done for somebody who's older. I never thought about that, but it is so true that our bodies do change, kidneys, our but all those systems change, and we got to make our medicine reflect that. And so that was such that was something for me to learn that was really great.
Speaker 4:And then I loved, and it was your own story of doing something new in later life. And for you, it's to learn a whole new language. And so that's a that's a phenomenal thing is just
Speaker 3:Stimulating a different part of your brain.
Speaker 4:Yes. Yes. That's so great. So I love that, to I don't follow start learning Spanish. I actually took it high school and college.
Speaker 4:I may have to go back and relearn, but that was a great that was great wisdom.
Speaker 1:You know, this has been really therapeutic for me. I'm I'm the one that always goes into these podcasts wondering about things. And I'm sitting beside these subject matter experts, these industry experts, and I'm always clueless. And they're they're confessing that they didn't know everything going on the last show. I'm feeling pretty good about myself.
Speaker 1:I did have I I didn't say it on the last program, but, you know, you said that you're learning to speak Spanish. Yeah. There you go. And I I I'm probably gonna get in trouble for saying this, but I'm still trying to learn how to speak spouse. I'm still trying to
Speaker 3:You are in trouble.
Speaker 4:You are in trouble for sure.
Speaker 1:But but you know what? I was having so much trouble learning to speak spouse that I went and had my hearing checked, and it wasn't my hearing. So I think I'm still in trouble
Speaker 2:for not
Speaker 1:being able to speak spouse. But, anyway, you know, I know our listeners really appreciated hearing, directly from you, a geriatrician with so many years experience. You spent a lifetime meeting the medical needs of aging adults. And on today's podcast, I wanna get right to where we left off. You know, we have a lot of ground to cover here again on this podcast.
Speaker 1:And that's why quite frankly we wanted to have doctor Davis back. But doctor Davis, I'm just gonna I'm gonna hit you with it right from the get go. Please share with us what you believe are the top five mistakes adults are making that hinder or hurt their health. Now now buckle up folks, you're gonna hear straight from the doctor. This isn't doctor Pierce talking, this isn't Greg talking, it's certainly not Ray talking.
Speaker 1:You're getting some free advice. The doctor's back in the house, and he's gonna tell you what he thinks the top five mistakes are, that hinder or hurt your health.
Speaker 3:Thanks, Ray. I appreciate the opportunity. I'm gonna say number 1 is not sleeping enough. That really can hinder people. Not drinking enough water would be an important one.
Speaker 3:Sitting too much, it's important to be up and active and going. Sunscreen, I think, is important, and and, I I keep sunscreen by the back door. So if I'm leaving the house to go out in the backyard, especially to tend to my garden, I'm putting on sunscreen, and then ignoring mental health. So those were five things in general, but I wanna hone in more specifically on men. I think older men, skipping routine health visits, thinking that they're not important, that they feel fine, and just not bothering to ever go to the doctor.
Speaker 3:Bottling up feelings instead of expressing them can be a problem more so for men than women. A misuse of alcohol can be a major problem in both men and women, but I think maybe more men. And then ignoring, urinary problems or sexual problems and not talking about them. That's an issue I think needs to be addressed. And then, of course, if I didn't talk about smoking, I wouldn't be doing a good job.
Speaker 3:That's that is a top mistake that some people are making. And, I think I talked about being sedentary, but exercise is important.
Speaker 1:So that is quite a list, and I know you guys were keeping notes. I have some thoughts I wanna ask you. Would you mind just letting us Sure. Inquire about a couple of them?
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:Sleep is a big deal. We've heard for a lot of all of our lives, 7 to 8 hours. Does that change as we age? And then, you know, snoring can be a real indication of some major problems. I'm just gonna tell you right now.
Speaker 1:I I have a CPAP machine. I didn't think I needed it. I thought I was doing great. My wife was complaining. Finally gave in, went to the doctor, and was like, dude, you you're not breathing.
Speaker 1:And when they showed me how frequently I wasn't breathing, I kind of took pride in the fact that I, you know, I I snored like a grizzly bear. It's like my dad, my grandpa. It's just part of getting old. Put up with it. You know?
Speaker 1:But sleep apnea, big deal. So how I mean if you if you have a spouse, you might get a hint. But how do you know if you're not sleeping enough?
Speaker 3:Being excessively sleepy during the daytime can be one clue. Memory loss can be a clue. Even sexual dysfunction, all those things could be indicators of sleep apnea. But particularly, if people are falling asleep while driving, that that's really a red alert.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. I like the way you put red alert. That's for sure.
Speaker 4:Yes. Yes.
Speaker 2:All asleep at the wheel.
Speaker 1:Yeah. What about tips for sleeping then? I mean, I don't a cold room, a good pillow. I have a whole ritual. I'm I am like you guys are gonna think I'm a princess.
Speaker 1:I have my special pillow. I got a little special blankie. I've got a pillow for my knees.
Speaker 2:That's an animal. Right?
Speaker 1:I mean, you know what? I'm Bill, I'm not gonna tell you his name. And I have a noise machine. I have my sleep ap. Now, you this is how you're gonna know I'm a real princess.
Speaker 1:I, Bill. Oh, this is tough. I wear an eye mask at night. I look like I'm on, you know, Green Acres or something. I I I wear the eye mask, and the blackout eye I'm telling you, it really helps.
Speaker 1:I bet the doctor approves. I don't care how you're looking at me, Bill. The doctor approves.
Speaker 3:Good sleep is important. Yeah. And, generally, we say a dark, quiet room is important. A sound machine can be very helpful, and sleep apnea is as much more widespread than we realized a few years ago. A lot of people do have sleep apnea, and a CPAP machine can make a huge difference in your daytime alertness if you're sleeping well at night.
Speaker 3:Unfortunately, as we get older, sleep issues become more of a problem, not less of a problem. And, so it needs to be addressed, needs to be talked about.
Speaker 1:And I'm so glad I because I I love sleeping at a good night's rest. I'm so I feel good about it.
Speaker 4:Well, anyway, I think for me, you know, there's studies that are coming out that say good sleep really happens when your bedroom is at a certain temperature. Right.
Speaker 2:You
Speaker 4:know, and it's I think it's more like in the, like, 68, 69 degrees. And I know for many older adults, that is they were like, there's no way I'm gonna turn the temperature and get down to that Mhmm. That level. But I'm wondering, I think in my mother per se, if if she would turn the air condition where it would cool off the house more, so would she sleep better? Because when I go to visit her, I'm like, mom, you gotta turn the AC on because it is just way too hot.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay. You
Speaker 3:know, a lot of older adults work. Of course, they're concerned about expenses.
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 3:And that sometimes is a factor.
Speaker 4:Sure.
Speaker 3:But a fan in the room, if they're not willing to turn the temperature down more, a fan can be of some benefit as well, just keeping the air stirred.
Speaker 4:Right.
Speaker 3:But you're right. And I wouldn't be hesitant to turn the temperature down. Although, you're right. Older adults sometimes, they may need a extra blanket or something to feel comfortable, but I think that lower temperature does help us sleep.
Speaker 2:I can't sleep without a fan. I've used it for so long that I I can't sleep without it now. So what about movement? I'm I'm interested in what you said about movement. Mhmm.
Speaker 2:And Frank, I know you ride a bike. And when you tell me how many miles that you're riding, I can't do that. So you tell me you're riding 23 miles, 10 miles on a bike. I can't go that far. So how how much exercise do you really need, and what what what's good exercise for heart health?
Speaker 3:Okay. I'm glad you asked that question. Generally, we'd say 30 to 45 minutes, 4 times a week would be the goal to shoot for, but doesn't have to be on a bike. That could be that could be walking, could be a treadmill, could be a a variety of different things. I do still I think it's important as we get older that you still do some weight resistant exercise as well.
Speaker 3:I wish I was better at that than I can claim to be, but I belong to a gym out of Mercy. And so I try to include, along with some, exercising of the heart with with biking, lightweight lifting as well. It's not important as we get older to do heavy weight lifting. But lightweight lifting keeps the muscles toned and is important.
Speaker 2:Good.
Speaker 1:I can tell you I can tell you this much. The older I get, the more weightlifting I'm doing every morning when I get out of bed. Right.
Speaker 3:I won the weightlifting I've had.
Speaker 1:I stopped. I'm like, okay.
Speaker 4:Let me ask a question on on, strength. When you talk about the weight resistance, you hear so much about core strengthening
Speaker 3:Yes. Your
Speaker 4:body. And I there's to me, is there a correlation between for older individuals, those who have a good core strength strengthening routine or have a good core strength about them, they tend to be better at balance. Correct? And I mean, just I agree with it. Falls and
Speaker 3:I agree, Greg. And and falls are can be a major issue for older adults. We do not want to fall. And so core strength is good. Yeah.
Speaker 3:And I think that does help your
Speaker 1:balance. How do we get that kind of core strength? Are we talking setups? Are we talking crunches? Well, how does an older adult approach the issue of core strength?
Speaker 3:I would encourage a variety of of exercises with light weights to include both upper and lower body as well as it doesn't have to be crunches, but different exercises that help strength the abdominal muscles are are wise as well.
Speaker 1:You guys are doing those type of things out of the village just intuitively with your residents. Right?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, they and they do it in a group setting.
Speaker 2:We all need to do a little more of that. But, yeah, the yeah. The villages have lots of opportunities for exercise, and we tend to build our villages on the ground level and not high rises. So there's lots of places to walk outside. And and speaking of walking outside, Frank, I wanna ask you about the sunscreen deal.
Speaker 3:Yes, sir.
Speaker 2:I did I heard you talk about putting on sunscreen. I wanna know, as we get older, is there more of a need for sunscreen?
Speaker 3:Well, the amount of burning we get as children and teenagers is is critical to how much skin disease we have when we're older. Of course, we're past the point of being able to do anything about what we did as teenagers and children, but but still application of sunscreen as we get older now is still helpful. So I'm careful to use it depending on the type of hat. I do try to wear a hat when I'm outside most of the time. And I have a garden hat that has a rim all the way around, so it helps protect my ears.
Speaker 3:Mhmm. But if you're wearing a baseball cap, I think application of of small amount of sunscreen to the rims of your ears Mhmm. Is is helpful.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 1:You know, I knew and I saw when he mentioned water, you set up in your chair. You're constantly a fan of more and more water. Yes. This is where I'm guilty. I've I shared with you guys that scenario where my wife is like, you need to drink more water.
Speaker 1:Drink more water. And we're sitting here in studio, and we have 12 ounces of bottle of water right in front of us. What what? How much? How do we get it?
Speaker 1:How do we, I mean, how do we make it happen?
Speaker 3:All fluids are good, but, generally, they'd recommend 8 bottles of water a day.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's
Speaker 3:So 8 12 ounce bottles would be optimal. Now so I've tried to I've tried to hit that goal, and that's a difficult goal to reach. But, of course, we're also drinking milk, juice. Coffee can be a bit of a problem because of the caffeine. So you don't always retain all the fluid you're gonna drink with coffee because of the diuretic effect.
Speaker 3:So I'm drinking more decaf than I than I once did. But, all those fluids we're drinking does help. Our kidneys need that fluid intake. Now some older adults, are suffering from incontinence problems, and so they don't want to drink. Yeah.
Speaker 3:And so, I mean, there's a balance there, but still we would say drink. It's important to drink.
Speaker 1:Do you know what my greatest discovery with drinking water has been? It's the container that is in. Now when I when I go out to to lunch or dinner, I'm a guy that gets water, no ice. I call it diet water. I get diet water when I go out.
Speaker 1:But but, you know, everybody wants the Stanley or they want the YETI and all this thing all these things, and they want the cold cold. That's not me. I don't want cold water.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But you know what else is I've learned that container matters to me. I mean, you go down to any Walmart or any kind of sporting goods store, and you go down the, water container aisle, there are so many options. This you know you're in America when you have that many options for what to put your water in. But what I have found, what works for me this is sounds so goofy, but it's I promise you, it's increased my water intake. I like a container that has a straw in it.
Speaker 1:Not a flip up straw, but an actual straw. And for some reason, I'll sip on that better than if I have to take the lid
Speaker 4:off. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm such a, you know, little princess. If I have to take the the bottle lid off, I don't I don't I won't drink it as much. I I just won't. But if I have a straw, I'll drink drink drink. And I have a, it's over a my goal is over a 100 ounces a day.
Speaker 1:And so I have a container 2 two times a day. I try to drink that container, and it's makes it more cognitive to me. Because I was joking with you before the podcast today that I'm a camel. My wife is like, you're not drinking. I'll go out and mow the yard and whatever come in.
Speaker 1:I'm just not I don't think about it. I don't know if it's Farm Boy. I don't know what it is. But this water thing is a big deal.
Speaker 2:It's a huge deal. It
Speaker 1:is huge. Yeah.
Speaker 3:It is important.
Speaker 4:Doctor Davis, I'm gonna I'm gonna ask a question. You said something about it was really specific to men, and that was the mental health. And so as I'm reading through and even back in 2013 in the spring, the surgeon general came out with a report on loneliness and depression. And so you're saying specifically for men, and this is way sidebar, but I was looking at some other demographic information recently. And in our country, the highest, per capita, if you will, suicide rate is men who are 85 plus.
Speaker 3:And that's sad, isn't it?
Speaker 4:It is very sad. Yeah. And it and it and it comes back to this loneliness, the isolation, the depression. Can you talk about that a little bit and just what you're saying? Men need to be exceptionally aware of their mental health.
Speaker 3:They do. And and I think I'd mentioned we have a couple of different screening tests that we can do to help to look for depression, how much they sleep, their interest in things, if they're feeling guilty about things, or concentration ability, their appetite. So there's there's a little mnemonic that I used to use in screening men for depression. But you're right. The suicide rate in older men is, can be alarming.
Speaker 3:I think a big part of it though is also is connections and relationships. Women are just inherently better than we are in in bonding and in having friendships. It's a challenge, but us men need to work at that. We need to work at relationships and friendships.
Speaker 2:I noticed that every time I go to the doctor, I I perceive that there's a little screening going on about mental health, and I think that's really good. And then when I look, since I have access to my electronic medical records on online, I always see in the notes that they've made a comment about it. This guy seemed to be with it today. That's not the exact words, but every time. So I guess there's a great value in screening people to to see if you can pick up problems early.
Speaker 1:Yes. You know, I want to encourage any listener that's out there. I'm gonna call it I'm gonna I'm gonna coin a phrase, the Larry Adams principle. Anybody who ever knew Larry Adams, he was one of the residents. And Larry didn't know a stranger.
Speaker 1:Now, of course, certain personalities have the ability to reach out and to love on people naturally. But if you're listening out there today and you're thinking I'm lonely, well, don't focus so much on being the most interesting person in the room. Be the most interested person in the room. Be interested in the other people. You might be shocked at what a simple question would do to open up someone in a story that you'll get.
Speaker 1:You don't have to be, you know, a late night show host and have all the questions. But just ask a question about someone about their story, about their, you know, what'd you think about lunch? But we tend to we tend to kind of set in our own little worlds. We don't want to bother anybody. We don't want to interrupt.
Speaker 1:But you don't have to be the most interesting person, just be interested in others. It's a little bit of a, you know, in order to have friends, you gotta be a friend. But don't don't don't go it alone. Don't get into isolation. That's what you're talking about.
Speaker 1:Sure.
Speaker 4:Doctor Davis, you know, you you kinda gave us some some tips for us in general and then specifically for men. What what would you say would be if you could say, here are the top things. You know, obviously, you could do the adverse when you're saying don't smoke, don't, you know, exercise more. But what would you say? What are the top things?
Speaker 4:I mean, if we can if you can do these, you will maximize your health and be in a better place.
Speaker 3:You know, I wanna emphasize again what I said about, exercising 30 to 60 minutes, 4 times a week would be the ideal goal. Then I'd say, limit your fat intake. There's so much opportunity for us to maximize that, but I'd say limit your fat intake, limit your simple sugar intake, push fluids, and then stimulate your mind. We talked earlier about, reading, studying, learning a language. When I was a young man, somebody challenged me to try to read through the Bible once a year.
Speaker 3:I did that for many years. Now I'm on a little different reading plan, and I'll read through the Old Testament every 2 years on the current plan of the New Testament yearly. But I think, I think reading and studying, not just sitting in front of the TV Mhmm. Is important to stimulate our minds.
Speaker 4:Do you think maybe and this is I'm gonna weigh speaking generalities here. Do you think maybe with our, with the additional education that people, let's say, your younger generations are getting, do you think there's more of a propensity to read more? So in other words, do you get let's get a boomer generation who a lot of those high school education, some college education, my generation is college and some master level education. Do you think reading becomes much more secondary of what we do? I think people are that older generation
Speaker 3:Right. Maybe aren't reading as much as, the older generation did, but I think that's important. I agree with you.
Speaker 4:Agree. Yes.
Speaker 1:I don't know if it would qualify, but one of the things I'm learning is that, there are a lot of books on tape these days that you can get for free. Number 1, the library has some. But, I didn't know this until last month, and Spotify actually has audio books that you can listen to for free. And you can also do that with Audible. And so that that's kind of fun.
Speaker 1:And I was sitting here thinking about what you said about your bible reading. I'm I'm a fan of that. I do something very similar. But let's just say that you and I were in a similar community or whatever. Why not start it together?
Speaker 1:If you're gonna do that, let's do it together. And what did you learn about Caleb this week? What did you learn about Joshua? What did you learn about the apostle Paul this week? And not just read but have the anticipation that we're gonna discuss it.
Speaker 1:What why not? Why not why not do those things?
Speaker 2:That's right. You know, Ray, my wife, Susan, has never been a big reader. But when she got those audiobooks Mhmm. She's listening to an audiobook now all the time, and I can never get her attention in the house because she's always got headphones.
Speaker 1:Oh, so you're you're having that issue with the spouse, interpretation stuff. That's fine. That's good. Well, you know, let's be honest. Let's be honest.
Speaker 1:I mean, you asked the question in terms of, older adults, but what the advice he just gave is good good advice for anybody. Mhmm. Can I just tell you, I do some leadership stuff with younger people through the our state, with the governor? You're not going to believe how many young people aren't reading. They don't want to read anymore.
Speaker 1:They just don't. But but I think audiobooks might be the comeback. I don't know. Doctor Davis, there must be listeners that are out there and they're listening and they're thinking, boy, I wish I was Greg or doctor Pierce. I wish I could have sat down and, heard what doctor Davis had to say, maybe in the privacy of your clinic or in a or or just a basic private conversation.
Speaker 1:So I'm gonna I'm gonna step out into your experience and I'm gonna ask you a question. And it's gonna get a little sensitive here. What are 2 or 3 of the more sensitive questions you have heard behind doors or from patients that you would feel comfortable sharing with us that might represent that listener out there that's like, oh, I'm so glad the doctor brought that up?
Speaker 3:Thanks, Ray, for asking that question. That's good. I think one that, I've heard several times, would be by a spouse when the other spouse was not there. I fear my husband or my wife is getting forgetful. They're they're worrying me.
Speaker 3:So that's one, and that's something they need to bring up to their doctor if if they're noticing that that's going on. Another sensitive question might come from I'd say this more likely came from a wife than from a husband, what would be, I still wanna have sexual relations, but they can't or they're fearful and they won't talk to me about it. And, that's that's an important question and one that, spouses need to talk with to each other as well as to their personal physician.
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 3:There's a lot of of, there's a lot that can be done now for sexual dysfunction that was not available previously. And and, many older adults are still interested in having relations. And so that's an important part of how God made us. Sure. Another maybe the last question I would say would be, I hear older adults say, my my kids just have no time for me now.
Speaker 3:Or the alternate statement is, it seems they've left their faith behind. That wasn't how I brought them up, and it seems like they've left their faith behind. And most of the time, all I can do is is listen and be empathetic. But those are are things that people might say behind closed doors.
Speaker 1:Mhmm. Yeah. You know something my mother says about that one is that and claim that scripture. You raise up a child in the way that they should go, and when they're old they will not depart from that. And that's a real that's a real issue.
Speaker 1:It's also tough to kind of know how much time and when. And my mother, I seem like I talk about her so much on this. And when she listens to these podcasts, I heard you talking about me again today. Oh, yes. Because she listens to the podcast.
Speaker 1:But you know what? She some how do I say this and and still love her to death? She feels like she's been in an imposition to me. Oh my goodness. How I love being with my mom.
Speaker 1:Oh, you know, well, I don't wanna I don't wanna bother you. How do I love just hanging out and talking to her. I mean, there's so many stories that I still have in her. I still always learn something. So, hey.
Speaker 1:If you're out there, invite your kids over. They're probably looking for that good home cooked meal or they wanna hear a good story or get out there. I mean, I still love looking at old family photos. I still love that. I don't wear out on that.
Speaker 1:So if you're out there, invite your kids over. Engage with them. And if you're a child out there, maybe call mom or dad up and engage with them, a text or a phone call. It doesn't take that much. And it's, you know, I think the reason you brought this up is so much when we think about medicine, we think about the physical.
Speaker 1:But you've touched on it several times today. This is a this is a mental health issue.
Speaker 3:That's right.
Speaker 1:We need to feel belong that we belong, and we need to feel wanted. And just because we're getting older doesn't mean that we're not. But we need to it works both ways.
Speaker 4:Yeah. Totally true.
Speaker 2:Frank, I want I want to ask you another question. And this has to do with the fact that you've treated people that have been a 100 years old.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 2:And we had someone at Baptist Village yesterday that turned a 100. But it's like as you get older, you you may or may not know what to expect. I mean, what are the what are the realities of of getting into your eighties and your nineties? What what do we expect, and what are the what are the realities of that? That's a
Speaker 4:good question.
Speaker 3:You know, things things do slow down. Our minds slow down. Our bodies slow down. And so that's that's to be, that's to be expected, almost like a developmental stage in a child. Things do slow down.
Speaker 3:But I mean, I'm encouraged that, people are living longer, more active lives
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 3:And are, still giving back. And I think that's, that's important. I'm reminded of, as I think of older adults, I still think John 10:10 applies to them. Jesus said, I've come that you might have life and have it more abundantly.
Speaker 2:Very good.
Speaker 3:And I think being a senior adult doesn't, doesn't eliminate that for us. In fact, that ought to be a time of great abundance for us in living.
Speaker 2:Gives you a lot of hope.
Speaker 3:Yeah. In giving back. And so I I think one of the keys to growing old gracefully is having Christ in your heart. Amen. That's the key.
Speaker 1:Well, in some ways, we're never gonna grow old. We have Christ. I mean, we're we know that we're gonna be with him and
Speaker 2:live forever.
Speaker 1:Forever. Mhmm. Yeah. We don't have to worry about a lot of these issues. That's that's for sure.
Speaker 1:Well, gentlemen, my goodness. Time has flown again. I hate to inform you, but we're out of time. Doctor Davis, we have to make an agreement. We've gotta have you back.
Speaker 1:I know we've already bothered you two times, but we we've got you on our radar. We're gonna cut you some slack, but I can promise you we're gonna be calling you to come back and join us. I know our listeners have sure enjoyed getting these insights from someone who really has cared for people like themselves, has committed their lives to helping them meet the needs of older adults. So thank you for your service. Thank you for loving folks.
Speaker 3:I would love to come back.
Speaker 1:Alright. Good. We're gonna Good. You heard it. We have it on tape.
Speaker 1:Have it. Have it. You know, I do hope you'll join us. You know what? I would also like to thank you, our listeners, for joining us.
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