Dr. Meg Haworth: Healing the Emotional Root Causes of Illness

In this episode we talk about emotions and beliefs have tremendous effect on the body over time and may be the overlooked root cause of your illness. My friend, Dr. Meg Haworth is here to walk us through getting to our emotional root cause and releasing, and replacing, those emotions.

Show Notes

In today's episode, Dr. Meg Haworth shares the importance of getting to the emotional root cause of illness and releasing those emotions to allow for true healing.  We are talking about the effect of emotions and beliefs on the physical body over time.

Dr. Meg is an Holistic Health and Wellness Expert and Transpersonal Psychologist.  She is also the best-selling author of Get Well Now.

Dr. Meg shares a bit of her journey with us, which begins at the beginning of her life.  During childhood, she experienced all forms of abuse, including sexual, physical, and emotional, and even survived a childhood drowning incident, where she needed to be revived.

By her 20's, she was experiencing multiple illnesses and diagnoses including: IBS, ulcers, severe depression, scoliosis, fibromyalgia, Mixed Connective Tissue disease, and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.

She read an article about alternative medicine and began to explore that world, starting with chiropractic care.  She incorporated meditation, yoga, energy work, and nutrition, and each modality helped her slightly improve.  Transpersonal Psychology, and getting connected with her body, allowed her healing to make a quantum leap!  The key was getting to the emotion root cause of her illnesses.

Through her work with her clients, she has created an emotional release technique that allows clients to get in touch with, address, and replace the stuck emotions that are making them sick.
BUT...this technique does it in a way that allows her clients to feel happier, lighter, and more free at the end of the session.  There is no two week recovery from reliving trauma in order to heal.

We are constantly learning, growing, and evolving.
"The fun never stops!"

Your body holds the answers and the wisdom you need in order to get to the next level of health.

Freedom comes from healing!

We tend to hold resentments and anger, and we all do it differently.

Dr. Meg considers these to be "teaching emotions" instead of negative emotions.

Using the emotional release technique and learning the tools to use moving forward leads to emotional self mastery - which is FREEDOM!

Exercises:
Close your eyes, place your hand on your belly and take a deep breath, inhaling through your nose and exhaling through your mouth.
Focus on your body.
Scan it.
What does it need in this moment?

Get up and MOVE.
Stretch...dance...Move!

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Welcome back to the inspired
living with auto immunity podcast.

I'm your host, Julie Michaelson.

And today we're with Dr.

Meg Haworth, holistic health and wellness
expert, transpersonal psychologist,

and bestselling author of get well now.

In our conversation today, Dr.

Meg shares her incredible healing journey
and how using her emotional release

technique helps create true wellness.

We talk about root causes a lot on
the show, and today it's all about

the emotional root causes to illness
and how we can get in touch with

our bodies to allow for healing.

Dr.

Meg, welcome to the podcast.

Thank you so much for having me here.

I'm so grateful to be here.

I am excited to share not only your
story but your work with listeners.

And I know some really
incredible parts of your story.

But let's introduce you to listeners
by, by sharing your journey and how did

you get to be doing what you're doing.

Yeah.

So my story is it's really, it started
at the very beginning of life for me.

So I grew up in a an environment
where basically there was

a lot of abuse going on.

So it was, I ended up with all
types of abuse, sexual, physical,

emotional and By the time I was in my
twenties, I ended up with illnesses.

So in all different types of
illnesses from mostly digestive

issues, I had migraine headaches.

I had severe depression, of
course, from all the trauma, I

had also drowned as a small child.

And Had to be revived from that.

And so that's, you know, a major trauma.

So I had a lot of night terrors from that.

I just had so many different symptoms.

And so by the time I was in my twenties,
I was just in and out of doctor's

offices getting another diagnosis.

Irid will bowel syndrome ulcers
again, severe depression.

And I also had a scoliosis in my upper
back and I would get these severe

debilitating muscle spasms that would
put me in bed for two weeks at a time.

And I'd be on painkillers
and muscle relaxers.

At one point, I think I was on
nine different meds in my twenties.

the only one I was on.

Well, I was in my thirties though.

I was on 10, but you're the closest

The closest, oh my gosh.

And they, you know, they prescribe
another med for a, another

diagnosis that gets piled on
because of medication side effects.

And that's one of the things that
was happening with me as well.

And I just.

Had this moment.

Actually I was reading the
Washingtonian magazine.

That's where I'm from originally.

And it was in the, the mid nineties and
it was an alternative medicine article.

And I started reading about
chiropractic care and I could

barely hold this magazine up.

And my first thought was, oh, that'd
be so great for my then boyfriend

And then it clicked like,
wait a minute, you can't hold.

You're thinking about everyone.

You can't hold of this magazine,
you need to go to the chiropractor.

And a friend of mine had been raving.

So I called her right away and
started working with a chiropractor

and she opened me up to meditation
and yoga energy work, nutrition,

big, big piece of the puzzle for me.

And so that really started
me on my journey and also the

journey of, of understanding.

The body and the mind are connected.

And I was so disconnected from my body.

I was in so much pain all the time.

I remember my doctor said you're in
the kind of pain that would bring

the average person to their knees.

Yep.

But she would be pressing
on trigger points and I'd be

like, what's that feeling?

, she'd say Meg, me it's pain.

And so I had to really get re get
connected with my body, cuz I've been

so dissociate, dissociated from all of
the experiences that I'd gone through.

Eventually in my, my journey, I found
transpersonal psychology and that's

what I ended up getting my PhD in.

Because I, I did all of the, you
know, changing the diet significant

difference, major differences
traditional psychotherapy, different,

big, big differences as well.

Acupuncture, you know, I just tried
so many different modalities and

they all made a huge difference,
but it wasn't until I really got

into the emotional root cause.

And how that affects the physical body.

And also.

The how that gets
affected and that that's.

So it wasn't until I found transpersonal
psychology that my healing.

Basically a quantum leap because I
was looking in every part of my system

and that includes the energy system
and that's something I really I'd

been studying about and I knew some
about it, but I didn't understand

how incredibly important it was.

And that The emotional mental,
physical, the entire holistic

system is all one thing.

And when you treat all the parts of
it, it really helps to accelerate your

healing in, in such a profound way.

So getting to the emotional root
cause of the traumas that occurred

how my body was holding those and
how my energy system was also storing

that energy and I was being drained.

My whole body was.

Drained from all of the emotions I
was experiencing all the time, the

anxiety, the fear, the depression
the, the sadness, all of those

things were so in me all the time.

And it was great to have healed to the
point that I did with all of the food.

Work and the nutrition, just all
of the interventions that I use

it used were just incredible.

But this whole whole level is what led me
to become a transpersonal psychologist.

I didn't mention also eventually I
also got diagnosed with fibromyalgia

with chronic fatigue syndrome.

And then I had two positive tests
for mixed connective tissue disease.

. But by the time I got to the
rheumatologist, which took,

which took like three months
to even get the appointment.

Right.

Cuz they're so backed.

Right.

I had gone to an herbal Oriental
medical doctor and done all of my other

interventions to help me and my symptoms
were almost completely cleared up.

And so the rheumatologist said,
I I've never seen anybody, this

healthy walk through my doors.

And you already, you have a test
positive for mixed connective

tissue, just like he was puzzled.

And they said, well, I guess it was just
a false positive let's test you again.

say?

It must have been, yeah, it
must have been misdiagnosed.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Let's test you again.

And they tested me again, the exact
same results came through, but I

didn't have this symptomology anymore.

And everything in their
criteria is about the symptoms.

Did they ask you how, what you were doing?

Yeah.

Well actually he did say, you know,
whatever you've been doing, keep doing

that, you know, he was very open minded.

until we get to the point though,
where they say, tell me so that I

can help other people do the same.

You

I know, I know.

just, one day we're, we're getting there.

It would be wonderful.

Yes.

To have them be so excited about the
healing that, that happened in my body.

That they'd be like, well, I've
gotta know how you did that.

And I need to implement that into my
practice too, because you know, it was

a profound difference, you know, to have
19 different symptoms that had almost

completely cleared up in three, four
months of doing the herbal medicine.

And the, the other emotional.

Interventions that I was doing.

amazing.

yes.

And because I'm familiar with some of your
story, I know it doesn't end there either.

Yes.

Yes.

Seven, almost eight years ago.

Wow.

We're coming up on the 27th of July
will be eight years since I was

struck by lightning on Venice beach.

So here I am with already this compromised
nervous system with fibromyalgia and.

All these things that I, I honestly
think of myself as being healed

and cleared of those things.

I do have flareups from time to
time that are in inflammation.

They're inflammatory
flareups that we all get.

And I tend to be able to trace
like, oh, oh, I ate that thing.

Or

Yeah,

I went, I, I was exposed to those
chemicals or, you know, And then I am

able to balance it out pretty quickly,
or I need something emotional that I've

gone going through something emotional
it's deeply affecting me right now.

And I need to clear that up.

So, so yeah, so I was struck by lightning
eight years ago and it's had a, it was

a profound turning point for me, for

Unbelievable.

And for those of you that are
listening on audio, she is the

picture of health and beauty

Aw, thank you.

thank you.

nobody would look at you and
pick out any one of those things.

And I love that you shared
that with listeners.

I say that all the time, I
too I don't identify with any

of the labels that I used to.

And I.

I don't usually use the word remission.

I don't feel like I'm in remission
from something I'm not waiting

for something to come back.

But

a great way to put

you know, you talked about.

Integrating and, and getting in touch with
your body and that's the key for everyone.

But especially those of us that have
overcome these chronic illnesses,

autoimmunity, whatever it is that you're
like, Hey, when you feel the inflammation.

Poke its head up.

You're like, okay, did I eat something?

Am I stuffing an emotion?

Is that, you know, what am I not handling?

Cuz my body's telling me something.

And that's, that will be, I know for
me, the rest of my life, you know, is,

Yeah.

Yeah.

to listen and not wait.

yes, yes.

I say it all the time.

As long as you're in a
body, the fun never stops.

Oh, I love that.

love

you're, there's always something
to learn, grow, and evolve through.

And your experience and your body, I
think, especially teaches you so much.

It is so

oh yeah.

and it carries the answers that
you need to get to the next

level of healing in your life.

love that.

Say that again.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Your body carries.

It has all of the answers has all of the
wisdom that you need in order to get to

the next level of healing in your life.

And I love the word healing because
it means its definition is the process

of getting well, it's a process.

It's not something that,
you know, here's your pill.

I better , you know?

right.

Yeah.

And it is a process.

Health is a process I was sharing, you
know, before we hit record listeners

know, you know, I'm here I am at 53.

I didn't expect to live, to see 50,
much less be doing all of the new.

Things and physical things that I'm doing
now that, you know, I couldn't do before,

or had never even thought to do, you

it's amazing.

You have a horse farm,
like that's a lot of work.

I learned

four dogs.

dive, and that's a brand
new hobby is scuba diving.

Just because, and I'm guessing
you've experienced similar, you

know, when life gets smaller,
smaller, smaller, and we're healing.

And when it gets bigger, bigger,
bigger, now I'm like, why not?

You know, scuba diving was never on
my bucket list, but the opportunity

come up and I was like, why not?

Like I, and honestly, I, I love it
more than I really thought I would.

And so now it's, you
know, it's, it's up there.

It's

That's fantastic.

You know, cuz what you're really talking
about is the freedom, the freedom

that comes from healing from getting
to the root cause on all levels of

why is this, why is this happening in
my body and what can I do about it?

And I know anybody listening is
probably in that That mystery.

Cause it really is a mystery and it's
your own and every everyone, you know,

it's, it's, you, it's unique to you.

It's your own unique story and pathway.

Absolutely.

And that's the, and that's, more gold.

It is where there is no standardizing,
these things like we all, you

know, look at your life and I
love how you're like, oh, well,

my story starts at the beginning.

All of our stories start at the
beginning, whether we realize it or not.

Right.

It's it's all.

And, and so of course it's unique, you
know, there's no one diet, there's no

one healing modality there, you know?

And, and so I love that you
highlighted that as well.

That's

yeah.

So, In your practice.

I know you've created an, an emotional
release process and I was gonna ask

you before I, I, I have similar path
in that I, there were root causes

that I didn't even know about yet.

Finding the right nutrition and
diet changes, finding a meditation

practice, you know, handling
some of these other things.

I was able to move my needle.

What I see and I'm sure you don't, you,
you see as well with, with your clients.

That's not always the case.

Sometimes people can be making.

Proper changes to support the body,
but they're not feeling better and

they're not moving their needle enough.

And so I'm guessing the emotional piece.

The results are, like you said, you're
you had a quantum change, right?

You, you were just quantum
improvement from handling that.

I'm guessing you're, you're doing
this earlier on with people.

Hopefully, and, and not like
it, it's not optional, right?

It's not like, oh, well, if diet and
lifestyle aren't enough, then maybe

I should look at the emotional piece.

Exactly.

You know, I, I always, I think
there's always an emotional component.

Even if you have the common cold, you
know, what, what precipitated it, you

know, what happened right before that?

Did you get in a, a major
fight with your spouse or, you

know, did somebody pass away?

Some here's something that's interesting.

You know, something I see in cancer
patients, cuz I work with a lot of

people with chronic illnesses is
that there was usually some event or

series of events that precipitated it.

So like their husband cheated on them.

Somebody close to them passed away.

It, it just, there's so many
different events that can occur.

You know, they, they lost their job
that they've been in for 25 years.

And something very emotional occurred and
that emotional component I often will see.

There's a lot of held resentments
anger, fear And of course what's

fascinating about it is it's different
for everybody, everybody stores their

information, their energy, their
beliefs, their negative core beliefs.

As a result of these, these difficult
experiences, no matter how far

back they went or how recent they
are, everybody does it differently.

And so that's why uniquely getting
in and getting to that emotional root

cause and how your body is holding.

It makes all of the
difference in the world.

Because nobody's doing it.

Like you're doing it.

, that's all of healing
is like this, you know?

That's it's so true.

So true.

So tell us more about your approach.

How, how are you helping people
get to their emotional root

cause and, and release it?

Yeah.

So a lot of people that find my work,
they find it through podcasts like

these through online summits and or
you know, referrals, you know, cause

they're just, cuz it's an unusual
form of working on On illness and how,

you know, how our bodies have been
affected by traumatic experiences.

And a lot of us don't even recognize.

It's so fascinating to me.

People will come to me and they,
they watch their father beat up

strangers in public, you know?

And they're like, well, that's a trauma.

Yeah.

That's a trauma.

That's really intense that you
jumped in as a little kid to

try to get your father away.

You know, like it is just it's.

Because it was normal for.

You had, it was a normalized experience
that is affecting you dramatically

because we're not really meant to
hold all of that fear and anger and

sadness, but we put it somewhere and
we're not encouraged to, to express it.

We're often told, you know, stop crying.

Don't don't, don't go there.

So we distract ourselves,
we numb ourselves.

But when we start to listen to these
emotions, to the negativity, to the,

what people call negative emotions,
and I don't call it that anymore,

I call them teaching emotions.

I love that.

Thanks.

Cuz I think they're here to teach
us something about who we really are

and they're here to lead us out of
the darkness, not to keep us in it.

And as long as we're numbing and
distracting and just not listening it,

it will, we'll stay in that darkness.

So when somebody comes to me I meet them
where they are and we look at what's

happening in their lives right now.

The emotions that are coming up for
them, the, the one that's I call

it the, the overlighting emotion.

Or the go-to emotion, the one that
you cycle in over and over again.

And we start with that emotion and if
it's anxiety and I see this a lot, of

course, a lot of people are suffering
from high anxiety for a lot of reasons.

Cuz we look at the food piece too.

Cuz I'm also you know, a holistic
nutritional chef on top of this.

So so we look.

Those different layers of
what's happening in the person.

But when we do the emotional release
work, a lot of emotional release

techniques can be very jarring and
they can be very difficult for people.

They can take them weeks
to recover from it.

And what.

I tend to see happen is in my sessions,
people tend to leave them feeling happier,

higher, lighter, freer, freer, like,
oh my gosh, I've let go of something.

It's, it's much more of a
gentle technique because we're

looking at the emotion itself.

What does it believe?

What does it think feel?

How, what does it look like and feel like
and we're having a whole conversation

with that part of the, of the self.

I'm fine.

I found that these emotions, these
negative emotions, these teaching

emotions want the same thing you want.

They wanna be seen.

They wanna be heard.

They wanna be understood and
ultimately they wanna be loved.

And that's what the process
that I use does for these.

Parts of the self and those beliefs
when they start to see, wow, that's

in my heart and no wonder I have
heart disease, like, and I have

these chest pains and, oh my gosh.

And so they see all of the connections
simultaneously, then they're

ready to say, okay, you know what?

I just don't want this in my body anymore.

And so we do a release process.

That's

and a replacement process.

Cause I think that's one of the key pieces
because we know emotions can make us sick.

We know this just by things that we
say, you know, that person makes me

sick to my stomach or , you know,
I, I, I'm worried sick about, you

know, those kinds of things, but
emotions can also make us well.

And this is one of my greatest joys
is to watch emotional wellness occur

in people's lives and in their bodies.

Cuz

I love that it it's, it's the same.

Well, it's even, I actually wanna go
on a limb and say, it's all, it's more

important than the food you're eating.

Of course.

Anybody that knows me is gonna
say, I can't believe she said that.

It, it is.

It, it really is.

Cuz it's underneath all it.

It's the why we got to
where we got to to begin.

But it's the same.

I love that you do the
emotional replacement because

it's the same thing with food.

People say, well, tell me what not to eat.

And I'm like, but wait, wait, wait, let's
start with like, what are you eating?

Yes.

Exactly.

we, we, it's not all about
what we're taking away.

We need to nourish the potty,
which you clearly know.

We could do a whole separate,
I have so many questions

about your time as a chef and,

Yeah.

Your culinary expertise
is, is exciting to me.

I grew up in my, in the
restaurant business.

And so and, and now obviously
I'm all about clean cooking and

clean eating, so that, that would
be a whole fun episode as well.

Yeah,

but so I'm really glad
that you shared with us.

The, the fact when people hear.

Trauma work or emotional
release or emotional root.

Cause we often we think, oh my gosh,
that means I have to relive the trauma.

And I just spent all these decades
avoiding feeling that I, you know,

I don't wanna spend two weeks
recovering from an hour with Dr.

Meg.

Like , that's not ideal.

So I love that it's a, you've found
a way to deal work with the emotion.

As it as its own thing.

Okay.

Let's just talk to the emotions and
find out, you know, what, how are they

just like everything else, just like
your signs of inflammation that you

feel in your body are serving you.

Those emotions serve you.

They're trying to give you information.

Yeah.

Yeah, they really are great
teachers and they do hold the wisdom

that helps us unlock that key.

Why is, why is this happening?

You brought up something I
think is really important too.

As I found, I've worked with a lot
of emotional eaters over the years.

And many of them there was,
there was abuse in their history.

mm-hmm

Oftentimes there's sexual
abuse in their history.

And when they get to that emotional
root cause, and we start to work with

releasing those emotions from the body
and them understanding all of those

connections then they're able to eat the
advice that everyone else has given them.

Right,

eat healthily.

nourish their body

Eat healthily because, you know,
and, and I know they hear this a lot

in emotional eating programs and.

You know, dear friends with some, some
amazing top level emotional experts that

are doing incredible work in the world.

And they all say the same thing,
you know, you've gotta get to the

emotions because those are really
running the program for you.

And that when you clear that
up, then you're able to.

Then you get to be in charge.

Exactly.

Exactly.

That's you're exactly right.

Cuz the emotions are in charge until,
until you have a talk with them.

I love, I love that.

I, I tell clients when we're first
working to identify patterns and

the mean voices and you know, those
things that are the programs that are

running, that they're not aware of.

And I'm like talk back like, you know,
and they look at me like you want me to?

I'm like, yeah, I, I joke.

I'm like, you can be nice.

You can say, thank you that
doesn't serve me anymore.

Or.

You could be not nice and
tell it to go pound, you know,

Yeah,

outta here.

get outta here.

cuz you know, I have some
clients that are really polite.

I'm not, I'm not that polite.

not anymore.

I was that's that's part of what,
you know, led to my illness.

So

Yeah, that's interesting.

You know, cause that makes me think
about, you know, how pushing down

anger, particularly as a woman,
you know, cuz we're encouraged,

you know, to be sweet and nice.

And it's just like, wait a minute.

What does that mean?

We just can't express ourselves.

So we often will push our anger in
and that will create the illness.

Yep, absolutely.

for sure.

And mine as well.

And I'm one of those people
listeners have heard me share before.

You know, it it's this, you
mentioned cancer specifically,

but it it's all, all of it.

And so common with autoimmunity that
there is some stressor trigger, even if

it is a lifetime of stress or trauma.

And for me it was divorce and the
divorce itself, you know, it, it,

I was fine through the divorce.

right.

Then my body fell apart.

And, and so, and it's, I will say
for the handful of men that are

listening you know, y'all are taught
to, to stuff, your sadness and stuff,

you know, so it it's, we all have,
and this isn't just a female thing.

It's it's all of us.

yeah, absolutely.

You know, and you keep
saying, using the word stuff.

You know, you're stuffed with emotions to
the point of bursting and allowing those

emotions to be released from the body is
one of the most powerful things that you

can do intentionally for your health.

Love that.

Is there a, kind of, I know you alluded
to you, you do it for, for yourself.

Say somebody comes and they,
they work with you and you

know, they're healing, right.

They're in that place.

Yeah,

It it, do you recommend, this
is totally out of the blue so

you, you can be like, why did you
throw me under the bus that way?

just, it literally just came up.

Well, I just got this.

I never thought about it this way before.

You know, we talk about when we
were talking about stuffing, we

talk about, you know, toxins and
we use the bathtub analogy, right.

And we overflow.

And so what do we do?

We support those pathways
is one of the steps, right?

To work better to obviously we
wanna reduce exposure and we

wanna be able to excrete them.

And it is the same with
emotion, emotional stuff.

So do, do you recommend, I, I don't
know, periodic kind of self checking,

like once we're feeling well, cuz we're,
as you mentioned, it's we're not done.

We're never done.

Right.

I, is there some kind of a
maintenance emotional maintenance

you recommend for people,

Yeah.

You know, that's, that's a great question.

And the more, you know, yourself and, you
know, your triggers and you understand

your emotional inner workings that I
say to deal with it when it comes up,

right.

It, it's easy to kind of go back
into the, the way you've always.

Because it's the way
you've always done it.

So it's easier to go back into
the pattern, but unhinging

and releasing the pattern.

It also takes work, as
you mentioned earlier.

And so if you found that there's certain
things along the way of, of working with

your emotions, releasing your emotions,
that work for you then, you know, like

journaling, for instance, if it really
helps you to sit down and write out,

like, gosh, I'm so upset right now.

The.

That person spoke to me was just horrible.

And I, and I feel, you know, insignificant
and small at the moment, you know?

And so you just start going into that.

And you know, something I do with
my clients is I teach them different

techniques that can help them so
that they're doing this on their own.

They don't have to rely upon me.

they have the tools moving forward.

They have tools moving forward, and
it's finding those tools that work

for you and continuing to implement
those tools throughout your life.

Because it becomes easier and you
get through it faster and faster.

The more you do it,
it's just it's exercise.

Right.

You know, it's like when you go to the
gym and the first time you go in, you're

just like, oh my God, I'm in so much pain.

But as you continue doing it, you
feel yourself getting stronger, you

feel yourself getting faster, you
feel yourself having more energy.

The same thing happens
with your emotional life.

And working with that emotional muscle
and strengthening your emotional maturity.

I love that.

yeah, so it's, it's, you keep
working with it as it happens.

And you make it to that point where,
you know, you're in the middle of

the moment and somebody triggers you
and you're just like, oh my gosh.

Okay.

I can breathe.

You.

Yeah.

You know, there's simple,
energetic exercises.

I teach people that they
can use in those moments.

And so you can start to shift
in the moment and that's hard.

That's a really hard thing to master,
but it's emotional self mastery.

And when you get to that place, it's just
like, wow, this is, this is true freedom.

That is true freedom like
that, that's it right there.

Like when you can do that, you win

Yeah.

really.

But I would imagine like every
other technique you and I use

people need to be using it.

And I always say like, you, you, the
tool has to be in your toolbox for you

to grab it at a time of stress like that.

I dunno.

And I do teach, teach people in my
online course how to do use whole person

integration technique on themselves
and they can get certified to do it

on other people for practitioners.

Because it's, it's it's proven to
be such a valuable tool to help

people get to that emotion quickly.

In a simplistic way, you know,
it's not, it's not too complex.

But I think a lot of the things in
life that are the best or the simplest

Of course simple foods, simple flavors.

I knew it

is a

It is unbelievable.

yes.

it's it's so funny.

I had this total aside, but I
have, I was just on vacation and

I came home and I, I planted.

Side of my garden.

In addition to inside my garden this
year, we had just some areas around

some rock beds, and I was like, let's
throw, you know, some butternut squash

over there and some zucchini over here.

And, oh my gosh, I came home
and I have given away at least

three or four zucchini a day.

In addition to eating zucchini in
some form every day, like we are

living on, but it, it may, it's so
simple, you know, it's so joyful.

And somebody said to me, I
don't even know how to cook it.

I'm like, well, we had it
last night, just grilled.

like, it doesn't have to
be, you know, in, in a.

Fancy dish.

So yeah.

Keep your food simple.

Keep your li I mean, and that's
what happens as we unravel, you

know, life should be simple.

Like it doesn't have
to be that complicated.

I, to me, at least the, the more
simple, the more joyful and fun.

Yeah, I agree.

simplify

I, I, I love that.

So you let us write to my next
question, which is what are some

things that listeners can do.

And I'll warn you and you'll have
to highlight one because I always

ask at the end of the podcast or the
end of the interview for one step.

So as I'm asking for some things,
it can be one thing or it can be.

whatever you've got for us.

And then tell us what that one
thing we really need to start with.

okay.

Yeah, so I think resonating with, if any
of this is resonating with you rather

Getting really in touch with the body,
I think is one of the most important

things that you can do and really
understanding what's happening within it.

We're so often so busy, we're
moving so fast during the day that

we don't even listen to signals.

Like, oh, you have to go to the
bathroom until suddenly you

have this urgency, you know?

Or you pull in your garage?

yeah, right.

I'm like, oh, wait a minute.

I didn't go all day.

You know, so so even if you're sitting
at your desk at work it just to close

your eyes for just a moment I often
say put your hands on your stomach and

just take in a deep breath and through
the nose and out through the mouth.

And then just focus on
your body for a moment.

Just scan it and just ask
yourself, what do I need?

Oh my gosh, I'm thirsty.

Oh, my stomach hurts.

oh, my knee hurts.

like, what's going on?

So your body's giving you these
signals in different parts of it.

It's, it's asking for certain needs and
just honoring those needs, so, okay.

I need to drink some water.

So get up and go get some water, or
you've got water right there by your desk.

and you haven't had any sips of it for
the last few hours, so stop and do that.

So movement also is very important.

So get up, get up, stretch put on
some music and dance for a minute.

Like it doesn't even have to be that,
that elaborate, you know, it just.

Dance for a minute and
you will feel much better.

You'll just be like, oh my gosh, I moved.

And I'm you moved in a way
that was just natural to you.

And it didn't really matter,
you know, cuz you weren't

Yeah, dance.

Like, no one's looking exactly.

I love that.

so just, those are just some simple
things to start doing to, to get

in touch with your body and start
feeling yourself, you know, and what's

something that's interesting that I
know somatic therapist, friend of mine

that I've worked with before says most
of us are disconnected from our legs.

Ah,

Which is very fascinating because our
legs are really our forward movement.

If you think of the body as a metaphor
for your experience and your, your feet

are like your understanding, right.

you know, so getting in touch with your
legs, how do your legs feel right now?

How do your feet feel?

Oh, oh my goodness.

My feet are a little bit sore.

Maybe do a little self massage
and just help to ease that

soreness that's going on.

And just feel what's going on in your
legs, in your, in your forward movement.

So those kinds of things, there's

Those are amazing tips.

And, and for listeners, like really
do these things, , you would be amazed

at just taking the steps to do that.

You know, we do, we live in our
heads, it's time to get in your body.

I always think that that.

You know, the people being so disconnected
from their legs is just, cuz it's

just, they're so far from your head and
you're up in your head all the time.

Yes, you're in your head, big, big time
and a, a, a big piece of what I teach

people as well is, is their intuitive
guidance and really listening to their

inner, your inner guidance system.

And that one way to do that is.

When you're in the middle of that,
that breathing process, scanning

process, what am I feeling?

You know, what, what feels right
for me, what's my best next move

and simple questions like that.

And just letting that, that
information just come to you.

I love it.

Amazing, amazing stuff.

So before we wrap up for people that
are listening on the go, which is

how I usually take in my podcasts
and don't want to check out the

show notes to find all the links.

What's the best place to find you.

People that are leaning in that
are like, wow, you know, I need.

Yeah.

should they look for you?

You can find me Meg hayworth.com.

It's M E G H a w O R T h.com.

At Dr.

Meg Hayworth on all of the social
media platforms like Instagram, we

have little, little clips that help
people, and I also have YouTube channel.

So yeah.

Also at Dr.

MCK Heworth yeah.

Dr.

Meg, thank you so much.

You have shared amazing
gold with us today.

Really life changing stuff in that
simple way that you were talking about

like basil, you are, you are like basil
but really it is so understandable.

And so I love that.

My hope is that that even the listener
who in the beginning was thinking,

you know, I don't have trauma.

I don't have feelings.

I don't have realizes now, like, huh, this
is something that needs to be explored.

I think it's something that everybody
should explore autoimmunity or

not illness or not to, to have our
very best healthiest fullest lives.

So I really appreciate
you sharing with us.

Oh gosh.

You're most welcome.

Thank you for having me.

My pleasure.

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