What Do You Know That You Know

Christine Von Pander is the kind of person who, within minutes of talking to you, already knows exactly who you need to meet and why.

 In our conversation, Christine shares how she learned to read the signs around her, how human design helped her stop pushing a boulder up a hill every single day, and what she believes is really happening in the world right now as we move through this big, collective shift.
 
P.S. Christine is gifting every listener a free 30-minute session: https://christinevonpander-ihavepeopleforthat.zohobookings.com/#/VenusC

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Guest

Christine Von Pander

Christine von Pander supports transformational leaders and impact investors in thriving through conscious collaboration. Using her gift for discerning alignment, she facilitates Aligned Match Sessions and provides consulting to build ecosystems rooted in integrity. She is dedicated to co-creating effortless, prosperous partnerships that energize missions and transform authentic connection into a powerful form of business currency

What is Awakening Adventures?

What if awakening is less about a single moment and more about the adventure you choose to follow? Awakening Adventures with Rev. Venus Castleberg invites listeners into real, grounded conversations about spiritual awakening and the unexpected places it can lead. Each episode features Venus—the Home Whisperer—sitting down with guests who have walked their own unique awakening paths.
Through stories, insights, and warm curiosity, Venus explores how each guest’s inner shift has shaped their purpose, creations, and the work they now bring to the world. The show offers an open, welcoming space for anyone wondering what’s possible when they listen to their inner guidance… and trust the adventure that follows.

Venus Castleberg: Hello, everyone, and welcome to Awakening Adventures, where we will hear real stories from real people who have had a spiritual awakening, and what they were guided to do with that awareness afterwards. My name is Venus Castleberg, and I use my gifts to help real estate agents clear the energy from stuck homes so that they can sell with greater ease. I'm really excited for my guest today.

Venus Castleberg: And her name is Christine Von Ponder, and I…

Venus Castleberg: I remember meeting Christine, and there was just this instant, like, yes, I know you, you're a sister, we connected right out of the gate, super excited to get to know each other. One of the things I love about her is that she's a connector, and if you guys know what a connector is, it's just somebody who knows, like, who they need to connect you with. And she's extremely good at that.

Venus Castleberg: Like, she will intuitively know that you need to meet this person, or you need this, and… or maybe you're…

Venus Castleberg: seeking something in your life, and you're thinking, I need this kind of person in my life, she probably knows that person. So, just something to keep in your back pocket. If you're curious, about Christine, we'll have more information about her. She is also… she supports transformational leaders and impact investors in thriving through conscious collaboration.

Venus Castleberg: So, without further ado, welcome, Christine.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Hi, thank you, Venus. Thank you for having me. This is great. I love… I love working with you and talking with you, so this is perfect for me.

Venus Castleberg: Yay, that's me too.

Venus Castleberg: So, tell us, Christine, was there a time in your life that you feel like you had maybe your first spiritual awakening, or some sort of awakening, where you were going down a specific direction, or a specific path, and you were just like, nope, not going that way anymore?

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Yeah, there's… I've had a number of them, but the most recent one, I think, is the most impactful to my yesterday, today, and tomorrow, I would like to say, because when it happened.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: it was… it was very interesting. I was going through a big transition in my life. I was going through, you know.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Getting… getting all these downloads of… of different things, and I was seeing myself… I would have different dreams. They would come to me in dreams, and one of the dreams was me being on stage.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: In a very large theater, like an older-style theater with the seats that the floor is ramped up for all of the… on all of the seats, and it's around. So there… and there was a mezzanine as well, it was full, so there was… it was full of people.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And I noticed… the first thing I noticed was, I'm on the stage, and I'm speaking. I can't hear what I'm saying.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: But also, things I noticed that weren't there, noticeably absent, was… a timer.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And with there being no timer, that said to me, I'm the only one they're there to see.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: We're here.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Because I'm not on a timer, because someone else has to come on after me.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: So that was the first thing, the realization of that part, and then the realization of, there's no teleprompter.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: So, nothing that I'm saying is scripted or rehearsed or anything. And again, all of these people are there just to see and hear me speak.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And then I spent a great period of time trying to figure out what is it that I'm talking to these people about? What is it that they're so interested and curious about?

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: how…

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: you know, I'm not a professional speaker. I don't… I don't do that. I, you know, I've impromptu had to speak at different things, but…

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: it hasn't been anything where I've, again, scripted it, it's just come from my heart.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And so, I thought, okay, well, I need to let that go, because obviously I'm not meant to know that part yet, of the what.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: you know, I have the who, and I have the where, and I… you know, but not the topic. I don't know what I'm talking about yet. So, going through all of that, and then being able to release the… the… what the topic is, and just pay attention each time I had the dream.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: it was… it was different. So, one time, I was a person on the mezzanine looking down at me on stage, and I was in different areas, so that happened for a few times in a row, where I was in different parts of the theater.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Looking at myself on stage and seeing myself.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And… With that, I noticed how completely comfortable I was.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Being on stage. How completely… at ease, and… and natural… everything was just naturally flowing, and everything.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: It's like, okay, so I don't need to be nervous about this, I don't need to stress about this, so let go of that, right? It's like layers. It brought me this big, giant cookie, and then… and then I… and then, of course, I panicked, right?

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And then I start, because I'm a systems and processes person, it's like, okay, what about this? What about this? What about this? And I'm like… and those things started falling away after each dream, because it was, like, you don't need to know that. Like, you don't need to know that right now.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: We'll tell you when it's time, right? And those kind of things. And so.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: The other dreams started as well with… or dreams and or messages. So, there's sometimes where you're just walking down the street, and a bus will go by, and it's got something written on the side, and it jumps out at you. It's like, oh, okay.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Is that for me?

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Yes? Okay, what do I do with that now? Right? And so being… being… not… I wouldn't say hyper-aware.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: But I would say, aware, for sure. And paying attention to everything that's going on around me.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: you know, it doesn't matter what… birds, it could be, you know, it could be a big laminated sign outside somehow. You know, it doesn't matter what it is. If something is making your attention go there.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Just, you know, for me, I like to put my hand on my heart and say, is this for me?

Venus Castleberg: Hmm.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And then you can feel right away whether it is or isn't, right? And when all of that was happening, I was just beginning to learn about human design.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: So as I was learning about human design, I was learning about human design for myself, to try and understand a whole bunch of things that had happened in my life previously, and where all of this

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: experience was getting me to go. What direction all of this experience was getting me to go.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And… So, I got these other downloads of, which eventually ended up being cookies from the universe.

Venus Castleberg: Hmm.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Cookies from the Universe is…

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: So many things, but the big thing is we're going through this huge transition now, as the people, as the planet, is going through this huge, huge transition right now.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And we're moving from a patriarchal society to a matriarchal society.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And right now.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Today, as we're speaking, today, you know, we're going through this very small knothole, and there's all of this volume of people and places and things and everything having to

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Get through that little tiny nth hole.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And part of the Cookies from the Universe is that

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: My logo, for example, for Cookies from the Universe.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: I know a lot of people have seen science fiction movies or things like that, or old stories where there's a looking glass.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And people step through the looking glass, and they end up in a different time or place.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Well, the logo is a moving logo, and it's a looking glass with an outstretched hand.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Open to take…

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: People's hand and help them as safely as possible get through to the other side of this.

Venus Castleberg: Hmm.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And… Part of that… part of my role in that is to…

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Provide a community, create a community, create an awareness that people aren't alone, and that there's, you know, there's things that you can do if you're just open to…

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Saying, okay, you know, take my hand.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And people feeling that Safety, feeling that secureness of…

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: You know, there's… well, right now, there's 3 different types of people in the world.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Right? There's the power mongers, and the he who dies with most toys wins, and all of that sort of thing going on.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And on the other side, extreme side, is lightworkers and people like us that have… we have the empathy, we have the path forward, we have… like, we don't know it all either, but we know the next couple of steps at least, right? And we can help people. And then there's the people in the middle.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And they are aware that things are happening. They're not aware of exactly what they're supposed to do about it, or how they're supposed to get through it. So they're kind of flapping around, and then…

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: something will happen, and they get taken out at the knees, you know? All of a sudden they lose their job. No… through no fault of their own. It's just… things are just happening, right? Random things are happening, that probably aren't so random, but…

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: what's going to happen, and they're… people are anxious, they're afraid, they don't know where to turn, and so the power monger side of the equation is creating false

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Narratives and false hope.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Because they're promising things they never, ever intend to deliver on.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And on the other side is us that are willing and open to help.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And use our gifts. And I'm not saying to use our gifts for free, because we all need to eat.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And if we have a gift and we're open to sharing it, we shouldn't be doing it for nothing. And so, I want to make that really clear, because there's so many lightworkers that have been doing what they do for so long, and they've been struggling financially.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: You know, to feed themselves even, but they're still… they're still not stopping helping as many people as they can, because that's their… that's their Dharma, that's their… what they're here for.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And… and I send them so much love and understanding, and now things… things have to change so that everyone

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: can benefit, right? So that… and it's not a big win or anything, it's just paying your rent, paying for food, you know, things like that. People need to understand that. Even if… even if they feel they have nothing they can give.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: They probably can… they probably do, you know? I mean, we are probably going back to the times of, you know, I'll trade you a chicken for… you know, or I have vegetables in my garden, I can trade you for, you know, something.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: It may get that far, it may get that far back in time, to do a giant reset, I'm not sure, but…

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: I'm prepared for all of that.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And to be able to help people, and that's… that's the big thing. So…

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: with the power mongers doing all the things that they're doing, and giving people false… false information, false promises, and things like that, there's… there's people that are going that way because they need any kind of light at the end of the tunnel. So, they're taking what they… what they see in front of them.

Venus Castleberg: Right.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And then there's the other people that are going.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: I don't… something inside me is saying, don't trust that.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: So, but where can I go? Where can I look for help? Where can I look for support? And then that is where we all come in.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And so, right now, I'm building a community, and it's not just lightworkers, it's every… in every…

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Enterprise, every… everything you can think of, is in there.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: But people are coming together, and… It's… I'm finally feeling like…

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: This is what I'm here for.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: This is exactly why I'm here. And learning about my human design helped me get a lot of things off my plate that I was pushing the giant boulder up the hill every single day, exhausting myself, going through burnout cycles.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: You know, I was in the corporate world, I, you know, that was a long time ago now, but, you know, burnout cycles there, and then there were a number of other burnout cycles after that.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Because I can't be around those… those people?

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Because I see everything, I feel everything, and I know…

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: what they're up to, and I can't stay. Like, I can't… I can't be around that. I'm… I'm far too sensitive to… and not sensitive in a, you know, baby kitten kind of way, just sensitive of…

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: I see that you're doing things that are wrong, immoral, illegal, you know, whatever. And I can't be part of that. I can't be tarred with that brush. I can't be whatever.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And I… I have to get out. And, you know, and lots of times it's cost me making a living. And for long periods of time, because usually I had to stick it out long enough that it triggered another whole burnout cycle.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Which, every time you do it, it comes on faster, and it stays longer, and it's harder to get past. And I just am not interested in putting any of myself through that again. And, learning my human design, finding out that I can… I'm not here for that anyway.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: I'm here to… I'm here to bring together community to, you know, when I first had the…

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: had the information download about when I was learning about my human design. What I likened it to, and this is not an ego thing, this is just a… how structure has worked in the history, is I'm a queen sitting on a throne.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And people are coming in and asking me for things that they need.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: So I have someone coming to me that has a farm, But no seed

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And I have another person in the room that has seed, but doesn't have a cow.

Venus Castleberg: Hmm.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And… and things like that. So I'm going, okay, you're… you two get together, and go and do that exchange, because you're, you know, you…

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: you've got what this one needs, and you've got what this one needs, and things like that. So, being that conduit to bringing everyone together, and now with the way we have the opportunity to do these meetings on Zoom, putting those people together, curating a room, you know, having a big meeting, and having a learning session in that meeting.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: But also having breakout rooms in there, and having…

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: I curate those rooms as to who gets in a room with who. So I'm doing it… instead of doing it as a queen on a throne, I'm doing it as a host of a meeting where… a meeting place where people can come together and get their needs met.

Venus Castleberg: Mmm, I love that.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: That was a huge position for getting in the corporate world.

Venus Castleberg: Yeah, totally. So, when you were a child, would you say that you, noticed signs, you noticed things like, like wooden.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Hmm?

Venus Castleberg: What would… what would you… what would stand out for you as a child?

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Oh, so many things. Feeling things when I would walk into a room, I could feel danger, before anything was actually happening.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And I could go…

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: there was many times in my early years when I could go into bars and things like that.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: it was… it was so often that I would walk in, and I could feel the room, but then I got so good at it, I could feel the who in the room. I could go, okay, that guy's gonna start a fight, or that, you know, that girl's getting jealous of that girl over there who's looking at her boyfriend, and… and, you know, like, say, okay, I'm just gonna…

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Back away.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: back away now, you know? And then, other things were,

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: you know, when I was really young, it was… there was a lot of, spiritualness, I will say, around me, because there was all different types of… of different things, from religion to white witchcraft to, like, all of these things were all around me. So…

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Being open to understanding and learning, not judging.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Very, very early on.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Not being afraid to ask questions.

Venus Castleberg: Hmm.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And have an understanding.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Realizing things like… You know, any religion or any

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: path that people decide to go on in that direction, with their… with their soul, I guess would be a good way to say it.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: That's up to them.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: But I'm gonna learn what I can, so that I can decide to take the best things out of there, because not everything is 100%. It doesn't matter what it is. It can be a religion, it can be any kind of education or training or anything. Take the gold nuggets out.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And leave the rest behind.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And just be grateful that, you know, you have an awareness of it, because there's so many things going on in the world, and people don't have an awareness of all of it, because we would implode from all the… the information. It would just be way too much, and way overpowering.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: So being able to, to, to discern and, filter out, a lot of things.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Lots of filtering, lots of filtering.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: To be able to do… to be able to do all of that.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And, being able to not judge people when I see them, you know, by appearances or by anything else.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And to be able to see

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: something early on I learned of how to spot danger was a… was a big thing. And different… yeah, there's been different times where I've stepped in, and I'm 4'9".

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: I'm not a big person.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And, times when I've stepped in because I see something happening, and I know I can do something about it, and I don't… and without getting myself hurt, without endangering myself.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And I've stepped in where a couple living in the apartment below me and their little child that's 2 years old, they were having a screaming, swearing, hollering match with each other. It was 11 o'clock at night. I was already in bed, but the yelling woke me up.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: I put my housecoat on, I went downstairs, I knocked on the door, all three of them answered the door. So the husband, the wife, and the child, and the child was just…

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: You know, when they're so crying and so distraught and messed up and, you know… they…

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: I looked at them, and I said, Smart not.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Whatever you guys have a problem with between yourselves.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Talk about it like grown adults, and stop inflicting this on your little person you created. That's not fair, it's not right. Figure it out.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: If you need to get a babysitter and go somewhere else, To have those discussions.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Do that, but this is not okay.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Look at what you're doing. It's 11 o'clock at night. He's 2.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: It's not fair, it's not right. He has no choice.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And they both.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: I said, I will come down here again, if anything is happening.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: That was that, and so they never did it again.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Thankfully, thankfully for the little guy, because that's what my primary concern was.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And another shopping mall, and there was this woman, and she was… you know the little kiosks they have in the middle of the mall? You know, the little shop vendors, right?

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: There's a woman, and she was doing laps around.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: The kiosk.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And her boyfriend was sitting, talking to the guy that was repairing her cell phone.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: But she was circling…

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And I could feel the energy. She was generating energy, like she was making a whirlpool of energy.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And she was inciting her boyfriend to attack the guy that was fixing her cell phone.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And her boyfriend was built like a linebacker.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And he stood up at… she walked… when she walked behind him, she said something. I couldn't see what she said, but she said something to him, and that snapped him. He went, he picked the guy up off the chair, threw him down on the concrete floor, and started pounding… laid on it… sat on his chest, and started pounding him.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: I came out of a store, I said to the clerk in the store, call security now.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And instead of doing that, they came and grabbed their cell phones and came to start watching.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: People are so sick these days. And so I went around, I didn't touch him, because when somebody sees… is seeing red, you don't touch them, because they don't know what they're doing anymore. I came around in front, I crouched down on my hunches, and I looked at him until he made eye contact with me.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And I said, what are you doing?

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: He snapped out of it, and he was like… he's looking at the blood on his hands, he's looking at the blood on the man, he's looking at the man underneath him.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And he was like, oh my god, oh my god, right? Like, what have I done?

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And finally, at that point, security came.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And then I just walked away.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And one of the… one of the girls, I'll say girls, because she was probably 18, 19, that was filming it, she said, you had no right to step in there, that guy was taking care of his business and whatever, and I said, and you were filming it all. You did nothing to stop what was happening.

Venus Castleberg: Hmm.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Grow up.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And I…

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: There's been so many times, those are the two biggest times that impacted me as well, and let me know

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: That's not…

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: I'm here to stop those kind of things in the world, but not by myself, by a long shot, right?

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: giving people information, giving people the empowerment and understanding of what's possible, and not get caught up in all the negativity and all the things going on. Yes, things are happening, I'm not saying to… to pretend like nothing is happening out there.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: But have the awareness, but have that disconnect of.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: But I'm gonna live my life to the best way that I can, and do the best that I can do with what I have, and how I'm going through.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Giving people permission to do that.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: a lot of people feel like they don't have that permission to do that, or they're afraid to speak up or step up, for so many different reasons. But now is not the time. Now is the time to… to…

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Be… be aware, but also be proactive.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Especially for yourself and your family and your friends.

Venus Castleberg: Beautiful. Thank you for sharing that. Yeah, and it doesn't, like you said, it doesn't require hands-on, right? You don't have to… you just…

Venus Castleberg: Wait till somebody acknowledges you, and…

Venus Castleberg: get their attention, right? So, well, thank you for sharing that. I really would like to, just have you share a minute about, like, you have a company that you call I Have People for that. Yeah. Can you tell us a little bit about that?

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Yeah, I, I trademarked it as well, which was really, really difficult, because amongst other, you know, other people, they're saying, well, it has to be more specific, and I said, no, it can't be more specific, because that's exactly what I do.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And so, as you mentioned in the opening, Venus, when you were introducing me, I am a curator of relationships.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Not personal relationships, I'm not a dating person, I'm not a… I don't do any of that. That's way too much responsibility.

Venus Castleberg: Right? Totally.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Oh, yeah.

Venus Castleberg: your relationship selfie either.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: No. And so… but as far as, you know, people in their business life, and their personal life, as far as, you know, they're stuck somehow, somewhere, with something.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Or they know they need to level up, but they're not sure how to do that, or they're not sure how to get unstuck for something. And a lot of times, I can have a 30-minute conversation with somebody and get them, you know.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: At minimum, when people leave a conversation with me, they've had at least one aha moment.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Because it's something that was right in front of them that they're so used to seeing it, they didn't see it.

Venus Castleberg: Hmm.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Things like that. And then finding out what it is that they need.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And connecting them with exactly the right person to help them with that.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And… and it's… it's such a gift, and when I learned that that's why I'm here, to be able to do that, I don't have to do it as a queen from a throne now, in this time and age, but I can still do that, and then my next level was, how can I do this en masse? How can I do it

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: for more people in a… in a, you know, same period of time, but more and more people, and that was creating the community. So, that's… that's that… that's the next iteration, so having the meetings now, and they're going really, really well, and people are getting a lot out of it, so I'm super thrilled about that and grateful.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And also, being able to have one-on-one meetings with people.

Venus Castleberg: you know.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And… and just have that conversation with them, and let them open up and be…

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Be able to unload and find out what they really need.

Venus Castleberg: Oh, that's wonderful. Well, so you're very intuitive, like, just being with you, you have this… and I'm curious, how do things come to you? Do you have an instinct? Do you hear voices? Do you see things? Do you… like, how do you connect? How do you connect those people?

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Okay, so, when I'm… when I'm talking to people, it is, I get downloads for them.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And so, all of a sudden, my…

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: my cognitiveness, my awareness of me is not there, and I'm just channeling out… it's like I'm channeling out through what they need to hear. And so, a lot of times I'll say to somebody, you know, please start recording at your end, because I'm not going to remember what I just said.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: But… and it's not for me anyway, it's for you. So… so those are the things. So, when I… when I have one of those meetings set up ahead of time, I charge for them.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And, because I need to eat, too. And, but, for when I'm… when I'm getting introductions from other people, so when I'm getting referrals, then I, I don't charge for those, and, and, it, it, it flows exactly the same way. It doesn't matter for me. It's… it's my… that's my gift, and I'm here to share it, so…

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Yeah.

Venus Castleberg: That's awesome. Well, even just talking to you sometimes, you're like, what about this? And, like, I'm not even, you know, in session, so… But you do have a gift for our guests today, so would you like to share a little bit about that?

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: Yeah, I'd like to offer everyone who's,

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: observer or a person who's listening to Venus's work, on these podcasts and so on, a 30-minute session with me.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: And Venus has the link, and she'll be able to share it, with everyone who's watching or listening to the podcast.

Venus Castleberg: So, I highly recommend even just 15 minutes with this lady, she's brilliant, and she does, she gets this amazing, download for you, and information, and might know the right people to connect you with. So, I highly recommend taking her up on her offer. We will have that link in the show notes, for sure, and also in the email that's going out. So,

Venus Castleberg: But thank you so much, Christine, for this. This has been wonderful. I loved having you on the show. Thank you for just sharing your insights and sharing a different possibility and a different way of being in the world. I'm so grateful for that.

Christine von Pander, I Have People For That!®: For the opportunity to be able to share it with even more people!

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