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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. One of my favorite parts of doing this show is that I get to interview really, really interesting people that ordinarily I would probably never have a chance to cross paths with. But because I have a show and I reach an audience, I get to meet kinda meet people, I get connections, and here we go. So my guest today is a guy named Kevin Trudeau who has a fascinating story, and he'll be telling a story at the beginning of interview.
Speaker 1:But so he's a guy that had these very unique abilities when he was younger, very unique DNA, which, you know, we'll explain more in the show. Anyway, he ended up being invited into a very, very high level secret society called the brotherhood, where he was, you know, bumping elbows with Henry Kissinger and world leaders and, you know, Gorbachev and a lot of interesting people to say the least. And he then solved the plans of this society and the control they had and what their kind of views were over, you know, kind of the simpletons, you and I, the cattle, and didn't like it and so decided to leave this society and expose a lot of what their plans were. Now as he'll explain in the interview, he did a few things to make sure that we weren't just gonna disappear him and kill him, which is very common. But he also knew that he was gonna be stepping into a path of a lot of treachery.
Speaker 1:So he ended up, being targeted by different agencies. He spent over a decade in prison, and he went through kind of through hell. But he's also become very successful and he's had a lot of success in his life, which has enabled him to reach a lot of people. So in this discussion, we're gonna be getting into secret societies and bloodlines, but also into hidden knowledge and the, you know, past human history into the views of the these kind of elite secret societies and how they look at people, what their end goal is, how to fight back against it. It's just gonna be a fun discussion.
Speaker 1:I'm really looking forward to, sharing this with you, and I hope that you enjoy it as much as I did. So please enjoy the show with Kevin Trudeau. Mr. Kevin Trudeau, it is great to have you on the show. Thank you so much for being here with us today.
Speaker 2:So glad to be here. Thanks for inviting me.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. So you have a very interesting background, and I think that I would not do its service to try to introduce you. So I'll let you just give the quick, or I guess take as long as you want to, tell us kind of a little bit of your background and what brings you to where you are here today.
Speaker 2:Well, most people know me today, I think as a number one New York Times bestselling author. You know, I've published six books, I've sold over 100,000,000 copies of those books. My biggest book was called They Don't Want You to Know About, which was number one on the New York Times list twenty six weeks in a row. It was actually the best selling book in all of America the year it came out. That one book sold over 50,000,000 copies.
Speaker 2:Back in the day, people knew me as the infomercial king back in the 90s, because I was on TV every day with all the TV infomercials. Back in the 70s, most people aren't that old, but I was known as the number one copywriter in the world. I wrote all these direct mail pieces, and was a top copywriting expert. And I owned three TV networks in Europe. I built a multi billion dollar enterprise around the world.
Speaker 2:But because I was exposing the corruption in the United States government, the FDA, and the FTC, I was persecuted and prosecuted. And most people know me as the guy who's been attacked by the government for exposing what they don't want you to know about. Primarily the drug companies, the pharmaceutical companies, the food industry, and so forth. And I got held in contempt of court because I refused to stop exposing what I knew from behind the curtain. And I got the longest sentence in the history of America, ten years in federal prison for the non crime of contempt of court, which contempt of court is not a felony.
Speaker 2:It's not even a misdemeanor. It's called, I think the pronunciation in Latin is surre jurietus, which means a thing of its own. So most people know me as this controversial guy. The government calls me a snake oil salesman and a scammer. But the hundreds of millions of people that have purchased my books, as far back as Mega Memory, How to Improve Your Memory, they continue to be benefited by the material that I've presented.
Speaker 2:People know the truth. They know that I've been exposing things that the government doesn't want you to know about, therefore they use their standard MO, which is first, discredit the person. Just call them all types of names and discredit them. Although they're frivolous claims, they just try to discredit. They use the media, which is in their back pocket, to do that discrediting.
Speaker 2:If that doesn't work, they try to wipe you out financially, to get banks to close your accounts, merchant processes to close your accounts, so you can't operate in business. And if that doesn't work, they shut you up by throwing you in prison. I mean, this is the MO that the government uses all the time. And they did it to many, many people, just not me. We see the weaponization of the Justice Department and the various government agencies.
Speaker 2:Heck, well, you go back to the Nixon tapes. When Nixon was saying against his political opponents, he said, what agency should we use to go after him? Well, we always use the IRS, why don't we use somebody else? He goes, well, he has some votes, let's use the EPA or something, and we'll get him for using the wrong paint, and we'll get him put in prison for some crime. I mean, you hear it right on the Nixon tapes, how the government politicians are using the agencies as weapons against either a political opponent, a business opponent, so they can wipe out competition, so that their friends, relatives, and donors can make money.
Speaker 2:Or if somebody is exposing something that they don't want exposed, and they use that as weapon. So yeah, you can say I have a colorful background, a controversial background. Someone called me the most interesting man in the world. And I've been in palaces, I've been with kings and prime ministers, presidents, and also in federal prison for contempt of court. So there's a there's a great there's a great dichotomy here of of being treated by the king in the Presidential Palace and treated like a king by the king, and then, you know, being in in in prison for contempt of court for exposing what the US government doesn't want you to know about.
Speaker 1:Absolutely crazy. I I I'm trying to think of where to start because I've got 10 different topics I wanna hit with you just based upon that introduction. But I I tend to I like taking that big picture view, you know, or you can also say, like this digging deep into things. And so where my mind is going is obviously, you're someone that achieved extraordinary success. The the success that most Americans can only dream of.
Speaker 1:Right? You know, even if you made a $100 off each book you sold, that's a lot of revenue just from book sales, but that was just only one part of what you did. But it seems like that from very, very early on, that you were really pretty much hell bent on exposing the corruption that you were seeing. And I find that like, I feel almost lucky. I've I've grown, and I've I've got a good large audience, but I'm not like one of the big guys, right?
Speaker 1:So I can talk about things, expose things, and I I kind of, for the most part, knock on wood, go unnoticed. But once you reach a certain level, a certain, I guess, realm of power, if you're not controlled and owned by them, you're gonna have a hard time. And you see it playing out in Hollywood, you see it playing out in politics, you see it everywhere. There is a club. And if you're not gonna join that club and do whatever they tell you to do, they're not just gonna say you can't come in, they're gonna ruin you.
Speaker 1:And so what what is it that like, what did you see about how society works and how marketing works and how how did you see this appear into this window and see so long ago, the truth about the government that now a lot of people are only seeing in the past, say, five years or so? Like, what is it that opened your eyes to that? Because it seems like that you've got a from an early age, saw something most people didn't see.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, I have a Rumble show as well. And it's called Trudeau Limitless. But there was a documentary being filmed about me as well, called KT Confidential. And it took a long time for the producers to get me to kind of sit and reveal some of the things that I've known. Some said says, you're almost like a Raymond Reddington.
Speaker 2:You have this, you know, you're involved in the shadow government. Back when I was very, very young, I was born with the ability to see energy, to move energy, you could call it psychic or clairvoyant abilities. And look, a lot of people have that, a lot of people are skeptical of that. But at the end of the day, we know remote viewing has been studied and worked with the US government. I was involved in that program.
Speaker 2:As well as when I was with President Gorbachev, who was a good friend of mine, they did it at the KGB as well in Russia. And they do it in China, all over the world. So there's a lot of this which the government doesn't want you to know about. There was a good movie, Men Who Stare at Goats. I don't if you remember that, where it was loosely based on true facts about the ability to use your mind to actually stop the heart of a goat.
Speaker 2:That the reason that men who stare at goats and they could kill the goat just by psychically throwing energy. And you can train your mind to do that. But because of my natural abilities that I was born with, to be able to see things and collapse time and so forth, I was brought into an organization called the Brotherhood, which is a secret society. Now, secret societies ain't so secret, are they? Because we know about the Bilderberg group.
Speaker 2:It's a secret, but we know it exists, there's films of it, etc. We know about Yale University Skull and Bones. I mean, there's a building there. People admit that they're members of Skull and Bones, and they have their own island, Skull And Bones Island, I've been there. I remember George Bush in his book said, when I was at Yale, I got tapped on the shoulder to join a secret society called Skull and Bones, A society so secret, that's all I can say about it.
Speaker 2:And John Kerry was a member and many Supreme Court justices and the founder of the CIA was a member of Skull and Bones. So we know that there's a lot of secret societies, but the real secret society called the Brotherhood is a real secret. I mean we don't have buildings, it's a completely shadow, it's completely in the shadows, completely unknown, because it is a secret. The people that are involved in the Brotherhood, some of them are members of these other more public secret societies. But this group is really what controls the politicians.
Speaker 2:They control the corporations, they control everything. The IMF, International Monetary Fund, the World Bank, you name the global group it's involved in manipulating everything on the planet. I was in that group. One of the things that they did in that group was take people with abilities like myself, and trained us how to maximize those abilities, to increase our capability of using those powers. Some people say, it sounds like X Men, or it was a TV show called The Pretender where he was brought into the center.
Speaker 2:And I said, well, that's loosely based on my story because it was 1963. And that's what they mentioned in 1963. That's when I was born. Again, loosely. But in that group, I was trained very effectively on how to be used as a tool around the world.
Speaker 2:And that's why I mentioned I was in presidential palaces, And even recently, royalty calls me when they have questions. They want me to see into the field, see into the energy and so forth. In that group, the idea was we're trying to better society. Well, the method being used to better society really is to better themselves, and increase their power and control. And there's arguments about whether it's bettering society.
Speaker 2:Look, today, there is less poverty in the world today than ever before in history. There's less people starving. There's less people dying of malnutrition. There's less people dying of disease than ever before in history. You could say society is better.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of better things today than there were fifty years ago, one hundred years ago, two hundred years ago, five hundred years ago. And there's a lot of problems too, but you could argue that it's getting better. Okay, that's a debate. The bottom line was I felt that the methods were not good. One of the things that specifically went against my morals and ethics was hiding the truth about a person's real natural capabilities, what their mind is capable of doing.
Speaker 2:And not only hiding that truth, but doing things to suppress a person's ability, such as putting fluoride in the drinking water, such as massively increasing the amount of sounds that a person's hearing every day and beeping, beep, beep, beep, everything beeps, there's a reason for that. It numbs the brain down. Social media, everything designed to click and get a new neuro pathway and release. All these different methods, the amount of drug consumption, drugs as we know, suppress a person. Soy increases estrogen in men, reduces testosterone, making them more docile, which is why we have this massive low T, low testosterone issues in America and growing around the world.
Speaker 2:Throughout history, people have done things in power to suppress the masses. The British made sure all the Chinese were on opium. Okay, let's keep them very docile, keep them on opium. So those are the things I didn't like. And then I left the Brotherhood.
Speaker 2:I was the first person ever to actually leave the brotherhood. And I was told that my life was not gonna be a pleasant one if I left because they control everything. They control the courts. They control judges. They control prosecutors.
Speaker 2:They control all types of things. The media, massively. Do you wanna know what
Speaker 1:the future holds? Just watch what the elites are doing. They're not piling in the tech stocks or chasing crypto bubbles. They're buying gold, silver, land, and they're building bunkers. Why?
Speaker 1:Because they know the reset's coming, and paper and digital assets won't survive it. That's why I follow their lead. But I don't wait until the crowd catches on. I already hold metals that I can touch. There's no passwords, no middlemen, no permission slips.
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Speaker 2:And when I left and started exposing this, the proverbial, you know, crap hit the fan. And I knew it was coming and it was the life I chose. It was like, look, this is the decision I made, because I thought that exposing this, exposing what they're doing would awaken people, take people out of their trance, and give a certain small group of people that actually want to help themselves the ability to. And I remember Gorbachev and Henry Kissinger telling me, because they were two good friends of mine, they were in the Brotherhood, they said: Kevin, why do you want to do this? It's like you're trying to make a pig sing.
Speaker 2:You're going to waste your time and annoy the pig. Don't do it. Because you're trying to teach people that are not teachable. They're not going to come out of their trance. They're going to loathe you.
Speaker 2:They're going to have contempt for you. They're going to resist you. They're going to say bad things about you. They're not going to buy into what you're saying. They're going to say scammer, scammer, scammer.
Speaker 2:And I said, look, there's going to be some people that are going to hear what I'm saying, are going to wake up, see the truth, and they're going to produce a life. They're going to create a life for themselves that's beyond their wildest imagination. And I got virtually thousands and thousands of letters and emails and telegram messages from people all over the world that have bought in. Maybe they read the book Natural Cures and learned about the natural cures to cure and prevent disease without drugs and surgery, and their health got better, or they went through my course Your Wish Is Your Command, which I have a brand new book that came out, and they're on that subject where they're learning beyond the law of attraction and how to use the brain. Maybe they're going through my success mastery course or science of personal mastery course that is the exact training I got in the brotherhood, so they can learn how to use their brain and focus, and actually see into the field and create and manifest what they want in their life and their life's gonna get better.
Speaker 2:So I have that and I said, look, yes, I'm getting all the flack, but there's an old saying, you know when you're over the target when you're getting flak. So I think I know I'm I think I know I'm I'm over the target.
Speaker 1:Oh, I I it sounds like it. These kinds of secret societies from my own research in them, are very, very driven by bloodlines. And that's where you also get into the satanic ritual abuse, and you have the the raising up of the next, you know, Project Monarch and a lot of the different things that they've done. So were you from a particular bloodline that opened these doors? Or how was it that you even, you know, even were made aware that this even existed, let alone were invited into it?
Speaker 2:Yeah. In the secret societies, it's based on bloodline primarily. 95%, I'd say. In the 90s. Maybe it's ninety two, maybe it's ninety eight, but it's in the 90% are from a particular bloodline.
Speaker 2:And there's a reason for that. You've heard many wealthy people, Donald Trump specifically says, success is in the genes. He always says it's in the genes. And if you go back to the movie Titanic, where the wealthy people were in the first class dining room, where only first class people could eat, they talked about it's in the genes. And if you go back to the Kennedys, remember Rosemary, one of the daughters was crazy, and she had to get a friend of mine and was put into a mental institution.
Speaker 2:And this was suppressed because that meant that the crazy gene was in all the Kennedys, And they didn't want that revealed. If you had somebody in your family that was a criminal, it was horrific. Because that means in your family blood, in DNA, you could have the criminality gene. That was the prevailing theory back for thousands of years. It was always the prevailing theory.
Speaker 2:What family do you come from? Do you come from a good family? Do you come from a bad family, an intelligent family, an athletic, because this is going to determine who you are. Not just physical attributes, but also mental and emotional attributes as well. So this is why in the secret societies, it comes from a bloodline.
Speaker 2:Because in those bloodlines, you don't have counter intention. In the DNA, researchers now have proven what we've talked about for hundreds of years in our societies. That is, if somebody in your lineage, somebody in your ancestors made a postulate, made a decision or had a trauma, it's in their DNA. And that means it's potentially in yours and it can activate. So if somebody has a trauma such as they lose all their money, and saying, I'm a loser, I'm a loser, I'm a loser, because they had that trauma.
Speaker 2:It's in their DNA. And that means it could be in yours too. So you could have a counterintention coming from your DNA. If you come from a wealthy family, you have a wealth vibration in your DNA. It's not a counterintention to money.
Speaker 2:If your parents or grandparents or somebody in your ancestors was very religious, and they pounded, money is the root of all evil. Rich people don't go to heaven. Well, that's in your DNA and you have a counter intention. So when you're trying to make money, you're going to have this counter vibrational frequency going against you subconsciously, don't even know it exists. So we have these various things, which is why bloodlines are who determines who gets in the secret society.
Speaker 2:With an exception. And that exception is the albino. That is, you know, the white heifer, right? Every once in a while there's like, this is some anomaly. And in my case, was an anomaly, because my mom and dad were not rich, and my ancestors from Italy and Europe were not rich.
Speaker 2:I had a lot of counter intentions in my DNA, but there was an anomaly there as well. And there is an anomaly. I actually had my DNA tested at Rutgers University. They run 3,600 markers, which is more markers than any place else in the world. Most give about 100 markers.
Speaker 2:They give 3,600. And there's some anomalies there that the researchers said, we've never seen this before. So there are some anomalies that were in my DNA, allowed me to do some specific things. And this is why I was recruited into this society. And it was very interesting because when I saw the movie, I think it was the very first episode of Star Wars, not the first one that came out, but episode one, where little Anakin Skywalker has something in his blood, they go, I've never seen anybody with so many crypto Turbosperdians or whatever, in the blood.
Speaker 2:I kind of laugh because it was very similar to my experience as well when they're saying, listen, we shouldn't allow this guy in because he's not from the right bloodline. And he may cause a problem. But he's got this ability, he's got this anomaly, we can use him. Well, I did cause a problem for them, ultimately. So the ones that I shouldn't be in maybe were right.
Speaker 2:I did a lot of work for them obviously, but I did obviously leave and now I'm kind of revealing what I'd learned about how things actually operate from behind the scenes. Not just natural cures, or how to manifest goals, dreams and desires, but also I learned a lot about business. How to start businesses, how to be more efficient, how to get more done in less time, how to get people to accomplish more for you if you're in a leadership position. There's a lot of things that I learned in that organization that I didn't know. And I learned it.
Speaker 2:And I then used it in my life to create billions and billions of dollars in revenue. I own three TV networks in The UK, all without raising any money. I did a lot of cash flow. I mean, I just pyramided profits. And quite extraordinary when you actually look at it.
Speaker 2:But to me, was not extraordinary at all. It's like I was given the tools, learned how to use these tools in that society. And then when I actually did it, it produced the results.
Speaker 1:And so did you when you went that process of kind of stepping aside or in making that choice to to leave, I know that some of these societies, it's, you know, there's really no option to leave. And it's kind of a blood oath. And if you leave, then you're gonna end up, you know, being found with gun, you know, exit, you know, you somehow committed suicide with two guns in the back of your head type story. Right? So after you had chosen to left, and you mentioned even talking to Kissinger and having these conversations about this, which is, you know, wild.
Speaker 1:But after you had chose to left to leave, were there any threats on your life? I mean, what was it that prevented them from just disappearing Kevin Trudeau?
Speaker 2:It's a very good question. People have disappeared in many ways. If you see an accident, a plane goes down, well, there's one person on there, there's a good chance that they want it disappeared. Everybody else is just collateral damage. So there's a lot of accidents, not just one guy's car goes off a cliff.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's a little too obvious, right? But if he's on a plane and the plane goes down and everybody else dies, well, how do you pinpoint that they were after this one particular guy? The reason I left, because I wouldn't have, because I know that I would have been disappeared. The reason I left is I made sure before I left, that I had a fail safe. And that fail safe meant if anything happened to me, everything was coming out.
Speaker 2:And so I set up, and it took many years to set up.
Speaker 1:A dead man switch, A
Speaker 2:global fail safe system that's in place. And I let everybody know when I left. It wasn't a secret that when I decided to leave, was an announcement. And I said, this is what I have, and this is what I'm doing, and leave me alone. And they said, well, we're not going to kill you, but we are going to silence you as best we can.
Speaker 2:And I know the MO. I know what you're going to do. And we all know. They said, yeah, we're going to discredit you first, try to wipe you out financially, put you in prison, and get you to silence. And the whole time we'll be making you offers to come back.
Speaker 2:I I wish this was on film. It was like a very rational conversation. And, you know, we didn't shake hands, but the meeting ended. And then off I went, knowing what was to come.
Speaker 1:Interesting. Obviously, you have felt such conviction in leaving that it was worth the risk, and it was worth the hardship and the decade in prison, and but here you are. So one thing you mentioned earlier, which I want to dig into a little more, I also I personally believe that the human mind and the human body, you know, as as we are created is so much more powerful than we than any of us know. Any of your average people know. I think that, you know, I've I grew up I had friends that you know, I didn't have any special abilities as a kid.
Speaker 1:I, you know, I was in, like, the enrichment programs, and I think I was, you know, you know, pretty bright as a kid. But I was never, you know, bending spoons with my mind or, you know, like what you see with Stranger Things, you know, going into the Montauk experiment type stuff. You know? Well, it wasn't me. But I had friends that that had those abilities that could look at a person and, you know, one of our good friends, he could look at a woman and he could say, oh, she's pregnant.
Speaker 1:And he'd know whether it's a boy or girl, and he might know before even she knew because he could see what was happening on a a soul level. Or he could see someone and he'd say, oh, you know, one of he's looking, he's like, is your knee hurting you? And I was like, yeah, it's hurting. He said, yeah, I can see all kinds of black matter around your knee. You know, things like that that you you have those experiences, and it's like, oh, yeah, that's that's real.
Speaker 1:Right? But I but my belief, though, is that a lot of these abilities are innate human abilities. It's actually how God created us. We have these abilities, but because we live in a realm that is, in essence, being ruled by the evil, this is, you know, we're in a realm that's kind of Satan is overseeing. I think that I look at that as our our challenge is to rise above that, right, to fight against that, to find the light in the world of darkness, that a lot of this information has been suppressed.
Speaker 1:Even I really believe even the history of of our humankind. I mean, we think that, you know, from early age, taught that we evolved from, you know, from monkeys and sea creatures, and we're just these these kind of soulless bags of meat walking around, you know, kind of banging rocks together. Whereas I I think that actually, we've had multiple advanced civilizations, and we've had, you know, massive history that has been wiped from our memory. I think the Smithsonian has cleared away so much information that shows, yeah, there were actually giants that lived. There were all these things that you look as these, say, biblical fairy tales or these ancient Chinese kind of, you know, the lure and the mythical stories, but that were actually real.
Speaker 1:And so I think that we are living in, in essence, in, you know, what you call a prison planet. We're living in a place where we're the the truth has been hidden from us so long and over so many generations that we don't know what we don't even know. And it's so deep. But I also think that as you're echoing, I want to hear your thoughts on this too, that there is that layer of our society. They know these things.
Speaker 1:They know the information that's in the Vatican libraries. They know the truth. And they are keeping it from us because I think that that my my own belief is that they believe that they're this kind of more superior. They're the chosen ones, and and we're just the cattle, and we're the the useless eaters to them. And that's what drives a lot of their perspective.
Speaker 1:But what would you say I guess, am I kind of in the same wavelength as you, or is that your own your own experience?
Speaker 2:You're you're right on the money. And it's absolutely 100% true that the privileged elite class at the highest levels absolutely 100% believe, and this has been documented in documents and paper and written down and in speeches, they believe that they are superior, and they are the ones who should be governing. And this is not a new philosophy. You go back to the ancient Vedas, the Ramayama, the Mahabharata, or the Mahabharata, depending on how you pronounce it, in India, they had a caste system. They had four castes, you had the peasant class, you had the merchant class, you had the warrior class, which were the rulers, and you had the Brahmins, which were the God class, the priests.
Speaker 2:They talked to God, and they controlled the warrior class or advised the warrior class. And the whole system was set up. It's like, the warrior class are big, strong, muscular guys. We're the ones who are going to protect society. We can't let the peasants be a leader.
Speaker 2:They don't have the brain. They don't have the intellect. It's not in their genes. And that's why they didn't intermarry outside of their class. So this has been going on throughout history.
Speaker 2:You go back, remember the movie Lawrence of Arabia? Lawrence of Arabia, based on a true story, Sir Lawrence, was in the first world war, the British basically controlled Arabia. The Arabs were just like the native Americans. They were tribes and they lived in not tepees, but tents. But it was very similar.
Speaker 2:Just like in America, had all these Native Americans, we call them Indians, but Native Americans tribes, And they were constantly fighting each other. They were constantly fighting. But they couldn't create a society and they couldn't rule. They had their way of life. The Arabs were exactly the same way.
Speaker 2:And the British said, we, the British, because of our blood, blue bloods, we will bring civilization to the planet. Because we're finding uncivilized people around the world who can't govern themselves, are constantly killing each other, constantly fighting. They can't build a road system. They can't build a house. They have to live in a tent.
Speaker 2:Their brains are so small, this is what the British were saying, That we have to govern them. It's our duty because of our intellect, our brains, our mind, our blood. It's our duty to civilize the planet, and we will rule India, we will rule China, we will rule Arabia, and bring civilization to the uncivilized, to the savages. That's what their idea was. It's not just the British.
Speaker 2:There are this class throughout the world that believes that they are superior to everyone else. However, everyone else has a lot of people. And so in order to make sure that you're in control, you have to do things to suppress the group. What was the first thing they always did? Make sure they're illiterate.
Speaker 2:The first thing the privilege elite class always did was make sure the masses couldn't read or write, because they couldn't read the books. You need me. I'm the priest. I'm the leader. I can read the holy book.
Speaker 2:Let me read it to you. You can't read it, I can. And I'm not going to read you this, because that gives you too much power. So that's how they controlled initially. Then they controlled them with food.
Speaker 2:They said, we're going to control all the food. You want to eat, then you have to go into the field. Okay, slavery has been around forever in that respect, but they didn't call it slavery, it was due to the peasant class. They controlled the land. So it was very similar, and then of course, let's drug everybody.
Speaker 2:Let's get them on opium, let's get them on peyote, let's give them saltpeter, remember the British used to give the soldiers saltpeter, so their testosterone would go around, they couldn't get an erection, and therefore they had no drive, and they would just be docile, and they would follow orders. They're making them effective eunuchs, so that these men would just blindly obey. So that was the whole plan. And again, I saw this firsthand, I saw it firsthand. And I said, this is wrong.
Speaker 2:People need to know the truth. They need to know what's being hidden from them in terms of their true power, their true power, that they are a spiritual being, having a physical experience, that they have unlimited power. And yes, there are some restrictions based on our bodies and our brain. Yes, just like you're going to take a guy from Cambodia and saying, you're going to become a professional bodybuilder and win Mr. Olympia.
Speaker 2:No, he's not. Because in the genes, his body does not have the capability of building muscles that big. His bone structure is different. So yeah, we do have some limitations. But at the end of the day, everyone can be infinitely better and more powerful and more at cause over their environment than they are right now.
Speaker 2:And if you do that, you actually change your DNA, and then your offspring have a better chance. And you can spread that down through generations. And that's the reason why I left. I said, I can expose people to this. And if one person's life gets dramatically better or somewhat better, that's good.
Speaker 2:But more importantly, they now are on the right momentum cycle. And everyone who has their DNA, here's the beautiful thing about DNA. If your DNA changes today, everybody who has some of your DNA living right now, their DNA is changing too. So it doesn't mean, oh, if you have children. If you already have children and you work on becoming a better you, more positive, more upbeat, you learn new things, you learn new skills, you start exercising your ability to create and manifest things in your life, everybody that has some of your DNA gets benefit in addition to just yourself.
Speaker 2:You help everybody. And then those people, everyone they interact with, and everybody you interact with who doesn't even have your DNA, they're affected by your energy field. So you're positively impacting everyone. And I saw this firsthand, this was the fear of the elites, of this happening. And then people basically understanding that they can be at cause over their environment.
Speaker 2:They can have pan determinism, which means they determine their entire future, their entire world, their entire reality. They can govern themselves. They have power. They have control. They don't have to blindly follow what the authorities say.
Speaker 2:This is scary to those in power and control right now. And that's why me doing what I was doing and am doing is such a threat to them.
Speaker 1:When you walk through that, you know, playbook of how to conquer, how to keep people subservient, how to prevent uprisings, You're describing, you know, what could have been, say, a couple hundred years ago, right? The illiteracy that, you know, no one owned any land. They were subservient, weakened by drugs. It's like nothing's changed. Like, you look at America, which I look as kind of the modern day Babylon in many ways, and you can see that our testosterone are at very low levels, right?
Speaker 1:You know, men are they're overweight, they're unhealthy. Even looking back, because I've doing some research into like what mead used to be, right? Like, the the actual old way of of actually consuming, you know, brewed and fermented drinks and mead has completely been replaced by Bud Light in a plastic lined can, which we know is is is increasing estrogen, and it they've taken away so much from us, but you see it's like rampant pornography, drug use, you know, the legalization of marijuana. So now it's so easy for anybody. They can just pop some gummies and just kind of zone out and not worry about the things they should be doing.
Speaker 1:It's like they've done such a good job of creating this docile class, where you look at even, you know, when COVID came about, and your average person, you know, the men that should have been protecting their families and should have been fighting against the school systems were putting masks on the kids and, hey, you gotta go get your shot, you know, you had to go to the schools, had to go get your shot. And then a year later, the kid's having seizures. And it's like, oh, was that my fault? Like, yeah, it was your fault as the parent. It should have been protecting this child and researching every single thing going into their body.
Speaker 1:But that's what we know, we're living in it, right? You know, the bread and circuses of Rome. It's like when I got NFL and, you know, you have every, you know, guy that they know exactly, you know, who the leading quarterback is right now, but they don't know that the Federal Reserve isn't federal, right? It's like they've done such a good job. But you mentioned the elites fearing the uprising of the people.
Speaker 1:And so as much as I can complain about the state of the world today and how much we've been just completely just duped in so many ways and it it had been so suppressed. I'm also seeing, though, that there is this mass awakening happening. There's a mass rejection of big of Big Pharma. There is a the greatest distrust in government and institutions, I think, that we've seen probably in the history of the country, right? And so, do you see that because you're seeing both levels.
Speaker 1:You're seeing everyday people that you're speaking to and that you're helping and you're educating, but you also I'm sure you still have certain windows and insights into what's happening at that kind of upper, kind of more elite level society. You seeing that I guess, I'll kind of frame the question concisely, that they're looking and they're saying that society is exactly where it needs to be and that, okay, hey, we've got them just the cattle are kind of ripe for the slaughter, or are you seeing that there's a worry that a lot of us are actually starting to break out of that spell, and we're starting to realize our power? Like what are you witnessing?
Speaker 2:Well, there's a little bit of a worry, but at the same time, they still have a lot of tools in their toolbox that they haven't used yet.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So there's a little bit of a worry, but it's real simple. All we have to do is start a war. And then we get everybody controlled again. Or we have to have a pandemic, and we control everybody again. I mean, they have some tools that they've already tested, that they know work beautifully.
Speaker 2:And they can pull that trigger anytime they want for control. But the real control is not about the money. It's not about the media. The real control is about your ability to feel like you have power versus you feeling powerless and helpless, and that you need the government and you need authority. So in our group, we had a very simple mission.
Speaker 2:The mission was how do we make the people want control, want to be controlled, want more power and authority ruling them? How do we get them to want that, to fight for it, to demand it? It's very simple. I mean, go back to what Hitler did, right? We create this massive issue where people are afraid and then they give up their authority.
Speaker 2:It happened with nineeleven. I mean, do you realize nineeleven happened and then immediately they signed the Patriot Act? Well, first off, that was a technique that I came up with. I said, let's call the bill something, which is completely different than what it really is. Because the Patriot Act could have been called the Suppress The US Population Act, How to control The US Population Act, which is what it could be called, but they call it the Patriot Act.
Speaker 2:Who would vote against the Patriot Act? You're not patriotic, you're going to vote against the Patriot Act? Well, the Patriot Act was already written. They said, how do we get this passed? Well, one argument is let's create a scenario where people demand that that gets signed.
Speaker 2:And do you realize that that document overrides the United States Constitution? In that document, it allows the US government to take all of your money, or your car, or your house, or anything without charging you with a crime, and you then have to sue to try to get it back. Nobody knows that. How many tens of billions of dollars has been confiscated under the Patriot Act, And poor people, because they happen to have some cash in their briefcase or in their backpack, you know, one guy took the money out of his bank. He was an immigrant legally in the country, hardworking, right here in the Chicagoland area it happened, hardworking landscaper.
Speaker 2:He goes, takes his money out because he didn't trust the bank, because there was some bank closings going on, takes his money out, he's got like $30. This is his whole life savings, has it in his backpack, was speeding, got stopped because he looked Mexican. They do a search, they find the $30, they take it. They take the money. They don't charge him with anything because he was going not that far over the speed limit.
Speaker 2:They didn't even charge him with speeding. He got charged with nothing. They took the money and then he asked to then, where did you get it? It's my money. I earned it from landscaping.
Speaker 2:And he didn't have the money to pay it. It would cost him a $150 in legal fees just to get the 30,000 back.
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Speaker 2:So there are a lot of things there's a lot of tools in the toolbox. Another thing that I came up with when I was in the brotherhood was we understood how the brain worked. So all we have to do is start stimulating the brain and put you virtually into a trance. So here's one of the things I said, look, we control the media. Let's let's have a different method of making movies and and TV shows.
Speaker 2:If you go back and watch some of the old movies back in the sixties, old TV shows, I love Lucy, Perry Mason, whatever. Look at an old movie like Casablanca, Citizen Kane. And notice how many times the camera cuts to a different shot. So the camera is looking and it's one one frame. And the camera will move a little this way, move a little that way.
Speaker 2:There's two or three people in and all talking. You're seeing two or three people at the same time and they're talking, and the camera doesn't cut. They're just shooting. Today, look how many times and how fast they cut. They go close-up, close-up, close-up, close-up, close-up, boom.
Speaker 2:It's constant. It's perfect. I put you into a trance. And guess what that makes you? That makes you susceptible to my command.
Speaker 2:It's beautiful. And then I said, Why don't you just move the camera around? And then they came up with this crazy technique where the camera's moving, like it's a handheld camera where the guy's running and somebody's running after him in the can. And that's beautiful, because that's also gonna get the brain to just go into this trance. And now the person is walking around virtually in a trance, and when authority says, Stay inside.
Speaker 2:Yes, I follow and obey. I was told to stay inside, I will stay inside, I will not leave the house. I mean, that's really, I'm exaggerating, of course. But the point is, that's really what's happening. And now the other thing we're adding in is the beeping.
Speaker 2:You get your car today, everything beeps. Everything in your house beeps. You throw some laundry in. It beeps when you open the door. It beeps when you close the door.
Speaker 2:It beeps when you turn it on. It beeps when it's off. Everything beeps. The beep is so powerful. You go back to some of the old movies where they hypnotize people or whatever, the man the original Manchurian Candidate with Frank Sinatra.
Speaker 2:Everything was based on a beep. Go look at the naked gun, one of the original naked guns with Leslie Nielsen, the original ones. It was a beep, beep, beep, beep, and all of a sudden the person becomes an assassin. The beep, the beep, the magic beep. That's why everything beeps today.
Speaker 2:And there's a lot about the tools. Let's just put fluoride in the drinking water. That'll basically suppress you. Oh, what else can we do? Let's put soy in everything.
Speaker 2:Because soy will increase estrogen, reduce testosterone. What else can we do? Let's put corn in everything. As a matter of fact, how do we get corn and everything? I know, let's pay the farmers with massive subsidies to grow genetically modified corn that's genetically modified specifically to make a cow fat and reduce their metabolism.
Speaker 2:That's what it was made for. But it's also perfect because if we put it in food, that means people are going to get fat and the metabolism is going to go down and they become more docile. So let's get corn and everything, corn syrup, solids. Let's get rid of cane sugar and replace it with high fructose corn syrup. This is perfect.
Speaker 2:Because now everything from salad dressings to potato chips, everything, mayonnaise to ketchup, everything's got high fructose corn syrup in it. Sodas, almost nothing has sugar in it anymore, real cane sugar. They use high fructose corn syrup, which again, makes you blow up like a balloon, it reduces your metabolism, and makes you more docile. And people wonder, how come I have a hard time getting up in the morning? How come I have no energy in the afternoon?
Speaker 2:How come I don't have any motivation to go out at night? People are nothing but lazy sloths, it's not their fault. They just don't have the physical energy. My God, when I grew up, my mother and father and all the neighbors, every night something was going on. My father would come home from work, he'd get a quick shower.
Speaker 2:Sometimes he wouldn't even shower and he goes, Come on, Mary, let's go bowling. And they go to the bowling league on Monday night. And then my father would go to the gun club and he'd go shooting for, you know, matches on Tuesday night. And then on Wednesday night, we had card games at the house, or they'd go over to the neighbors and play bridge all night until midnight. And then on Thursday night, we had all the family over, and everybody's laughing and dancing until, you know, 10:00, 12:00 at night.
Speaker 2:Nobody was tired. Everyone was like filled with energy. All weekend long, you did stuff. You woke up, it's like, it's the weekend. Let's get out of the house.
Speaker 2:Let's go fishing. Let's go kite flying. Let's do this. Let's do that. People were like buzzing.
Speaker 2:They were bouncing off the walls. And heaven forbid, there was a rainstorm and people had to stay in the house. It was like, oh my God, we got to get out of the house. We've been in here for four hours. Let's do something.
Speaker 2:I'm bouncing off. Why don't we clean all the walls? Let's do The energy that people had back then was just off the charts. Today everyone's like, I'm so tired. I went to work, sat in a desk all day and was in front of my computer.
Speaker 2:I'm so tired, so tired. I don't know I'm so tired. Like, you wonder why you're so tired? Look at what you're eating. They want you that tired.
Speaker 2:Then you look at guys like Rupert Murdoch or Donald Trump, who's got so much freaking energy. Rupert was like 90 years old. Look at these people, the elites. They're in their 90s. They're not sitting around going, I'm tired, so tired, so tired.
Speaker 2:No, they're bumping, jumping, they're going this and that. Why? Because they're not doing what you're doing. They're getting you to do it, but they're doing something different. They're staying away from the things that are suppressing you and making you docile, lethargic, and blow up like a balloon.
Speaker 1:It's it's so true, actually, because even you know, I was born in '86, so I don't have this memory of what the sixties was like or the seventies. But even as I was a kid, remember just having nonstop energy and, you know, we're out at, you know, 09:10 o'clock riding bicycles and doing bonfires, and there was just there was so much energy. I think a lot of it is because there was no smartphones. Like, the smartphones are also a massive part of what has happened, the EMFs. And then you get into, you know, chemtrails and the chemicals in the in the water.
Speaker 1:I mean, it just it's it's such an assault on humanity. But for for someone that's watching this and even my own, you know, curiosities with this, because, obviously, I guess, I'm someone that I I think I've I've broken the mold in a lot of ways. I've started a few different companies. I've, you know, always been, you know, very independent in my thinking. Obviously, I'm kinda bucking the trend by creating a podcast and and, you know, avoiding the four zero one k and and the, you know, the nine to five.
Speaker 1:You know, I just for a young age, was like, oh, there's no way I'm doing that. That's a prison. I don't I don't want that. I don't want that lifestyle. I want complete independence, and and I wanna be able to kind of create a vision for my life and and, you know, and do my best to to map that vision.
Speaker 1:And actually, I'll I'll make a quick comment about that because I wanna just kinda put out there for you is that, you know, my ever since I I think when I was young, I read, you know, Think and Grow Rich. I did a lot of reading on these different kinds of books and everything. And I do think that one of the most powerful things is the vision that we have of ourselves and the vision that we have of the future and what we perceive ourselves to be. I remember reading Psycho Cybernetics at a young age and just thinking, gosh, this is mind blowing stuff. Like, what do we know?
Speaker 1:What does my what does my internal vision of myself look like? And and how I'm reinforcing that, you know, if if I have a bad view, you know, kind of view my own identity as negative, I'll keep reinforcing that because that's how I believe that I am. But one thing that I think is very sinister in this is that if you look and you ask the average person, what do you think the world looks like in fifty years? We don't have a lot of reference points for that outside of Hollywood, outside of the pop culture. And but when we look in the future, what do we see?
Speaker 1:We see, oh, is it Mad Max? Is it Hunger Games? Is it Blade Runner? There's no movies about this future where humanity rises up and we return to the virtues, and we go back to living how we should live. All the movies and all the the the kind of ideas that we have about the future, they're pretty bleak.
Speaker 1:And I think that's actually part of this overall psychological operation too, is just to paint this picture for people repeatedly from a young age. Like, remember my my favorite movies as a kid were, you know, Terminator and Blade Runner and these movies that were very dystopian. But I think what it does is it creates an imprint in us. And we can't really imagine something outside of it. I think that's what they they want us to kind of naturally walk into the hunger games because we almost feel like, okay, that's that's just what the future is, which I think is I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on that.
Speaker 1:And then I have more questions, but actually, I'll let you respond to that first before I jump ahead of myself.
Speaker 2:Well, one of the things in the tool bucket is what can we do to get people to feel helpless and hopeless? There's a difference. Helpless means I can't do anything right now, but I still might have hope for the future. But if I can get you to feel both helpless and hopeless, I control you because you give up. Now I have to suppress your hormones in order to make you feel hopeless and helpless, because otherwise you have too much energy.
Speaker 2:And especially guys, if you have testosterone, you'll never feel helpless. You'll feel like I'm gonna fight, I'm gonna fight, I'm gonna fight. I mean, like or dislike Donald Trump, that's irrelevant. You got to respect that son of a gun when he got shot and he pushed the Secret Service away and jumped up. He didn't know if the shooter was still shooting.
Speaker 2:And he throws his hand in the air and he screams, fight, fight. That tells you who this guy is. Like him or not, that's not the question. You've got to respect the fighter in him. No matter what happens he fights.
Speaker 2:He's got a ton of testosterone, I can tell you right now. The guy is not low on testosterone. He is driven and a fighter. So if you make somebody hopeless, now they have no dream. That's why under the Soviet Union, when I was talking to Gorbachev, we were flying, we had a private plane, we were flying around Australia together.
Speaker 2:And we were talking about this at length. His wife was still alive at the time, Raysa. But she was very ill. We had a doctor there as well. But I was talking with you an interpreter, because he didn't speak English, Mikhail.
Speaker 2:But he was saying in the Soviet Union, one of the things that was always a major, major factor of control was keeping the people feeling hopeless. And when you went into behind the iron curtain, which I had done when it was still there on multiple occasions, the people had no hope. And that was how you control them, you just take their hope away. And then once Poland started getting hope, and you had Perestroika and all the other issues there, solidarity and things like that, that's when the fall of the Soviet Union happened. So you have to take away hope.
Speaker 2:How do you do that? By painting a bleak picture of the future. You have no future, you have no future, you have no future. Which is why you mentioned the book by Maxwell Maltz, Doctor. Maxwell Maltz, Psycho Cybernetics.
Speaker 2:The original version that came out in 1959, talks about self image. He was the first person to use that phrase. The image you have of yourself. Do you see yourself as a winner or a loser? As a fighter or somebody who's a victim?
Speaker 2:How do you see yourself? It's critical for the elites to get you to see yourself as a victim. This is why there's one political party that wants you always to feel like a victim. And so it puts people in categories and saying, you're a victim, you're a victim, you're a victim, you're a victim. Because if you see yourself as a victim, you will feel helpless, and also make you feel more hopeless as well.
Speaker 2:So getting you victim mentality, very critical. And this is done through a multitude of ways. The media is completely controlled and the internet as well. Platforms such as Rumble and the work that you're doing and others who are speaking out and expressing opinions freely. It's unfortunately just a blip on the radar screen.
Speaker 2:Because if you look at the amount of input the average person is getting from your show and others on Rumble and platforms such as that, where free speech is embraced, and the free flow of opinions is embraced, that same person is getting 10 times more input from the mainstream programming. So it's still difficult to kind of overcome this. This is why the book like Psycho Cybernetics, and by the way, I showed you this right before we started. I just got this yesterday. This is my brand new book called Your Wish Is Your Command.
Speaker 2:It just came off the presses. It's brand new. It's my newest one. It's being called The Think and Grow Rich of Our Time. But that's why it's so critical to have a dream.
Speaker 2:In the Bible, Old Testament, it says, a man without a dream will perish. A man without a vision for the future and a vision for his own life is dead. Think about that. You have to have a dream. You have to have a vision.
Speaker 2:You have to believe in the future. And you have to believe in yourself. They, those elites, they don't want you to have a vision that's positive. They don't want you to believe in yourself. They don't want you to have a positive self image.
Speaker 2:They don't want you to have high self esteem. Because otherwise, they can't control you. So if I reduce your vision of the future, if I make it a terrible future, you feel more helpless, and you would feel more hopeless, you're easier to control.
Speaker 1:Which makes perfect sense. I mean, it makes perfect sense what you're saying. And so for people that are watching this and asking, okay, so what do I do? I know that you're someone that you understand coaching very, very well. You understand how to take someone from a despondent, hopeless place and help them find their way to a place where they have a vision, where they have excitement for the day, where they wake up ready to take on the challenges of the day to achieve a future that's worth fighting for.
Speaker 1:What are some very practical steps? What are some things that someone can take away from this interview and think, Okay, I'm gonna do a few of those things. They that little spark that hopefully gets them going to the next stage.
Speaker 2:There's one thing everyone has to do first, is remember this phrase. Success is a decision away. So the first thing a person has to do, they're watching right now, is to make a decision that I'm going to improve myself. That's the decision. I'm going to wake up.
Speaker 2:Make that decision. All you have to do is make the decision. The universe, God will give you the method, will give you the how, because there's a lot of them. But the first thing you have to do is make a decision. You know something, I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna wake up. I'm going to wake up. I'm going to improve myself. Don't try to change that guy and that guy and that guy. Every time you point your finger at somebody else, there are three fingers pointed directly at you.
Speaker 2:Focus on yourself. Gandhi said it best, be the change you want to see in the world. Work on being a better you, but make the decision. Decision number one, I am going to wake up. I am going to improve myself.
Speaker 2:And let the universe provide you the next book, the seminar you go to, the next lecture, the next podcast you watch, you'll start learning. This is a journey. Okay, but don't be overwhelmed by the length of the journey. A journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step. Go as far as you can see.
Speaker 2:And when you get there, you'll see further. So it could be as simple as, you know something, I'm going to start drinking filtered water and get that fluoride out of my system. And I'm going to get a shower filter, so I don't shower in fluoride and chlorinated water anymore. Okay, maybe somebody else that's not the decision. Maybe somebody else is going to say, know something, I'm taking eight pharmaceutical drugs, maybe I should talk to my doctor and wean off these.
Speaker 2:Don't stop taking drugs immediately, do it under professional care, because some of them you just can't stop, you go maybe nuts or whatever, but maybe reduce the amount of pharmaceutical drugs you're taking. Maybe some of you will say, you know something, I'm going to eliminate high fructose corn syrup from my diet and anything with soy. Hey, that's super fun. You and the whole family go through the house, do like a treasure hunt and saying, okay, whoever finds the most things with soy or anything to do with corn is going to win the prize. And have you and your family go through everything and look at the labels.
Speaker 2:And if it says soybean anything or soy anything, gets put off to the side. If it says corn, high fructose corn syrup, corn syrup solids, anything with corn, put it to the side. And anything with artificial sweeteners, aspartame, NutraSweet, sucralose, put it to the side. Unfortunately, most of your food is going to be off to the side. Maybe you'll say, that's what I'm going to do.
Speaker 2:And then say, well, we need ketchup. Okay, buy some organic ketchup. You're going to find out that it has real cane sugar in it. We need this, we need that, you're going to find a different brand. And all of a sudden within a week, I can guarantee you, you're going to feel different.
Speaker 2:At 08:30 at night, you're not going to be tired. All of a sudden, your optimism, you're going to feel like, Oh my God, I didn't realize that this crap was actually making me feel depressed. Yes. And then you're also gonna realize, how come I'm not hungry anymore? How come I don't feel like just stuffing my face?
Speaker 2:I'm actually hungry, I'm full. How come I don't crave things? Because that stuff is designed to make you fat and make you eat like a pig. Sorry. But that's what it is.
Speaker 2:So maybe you do that. It's a very simple thing. Or maybe you think, you know something, I'm going to go for a walk, a ten minute walk. I remember my friend Zig Ziglar, great motivational speaker, probably one of the best motivational speakers of all time. Although my other good friend, Les Brown would disagree because Les and Ziglar are like number one and number two.
Speaker 2:But Zig Ziglar said when he started to exercise, says, Kevin, the first day I made a decision, was going to start jogging. And I says, Wow, that's like a big jump. You know, you haven't even walked, now you're gonna start jogging. He goes, Oh yeah, but I set my goal real simple. My first jog was going to be one block.
Speaker 2:And I live on a street where the blocks are really, really short. So I ran a block. It took me about a minute. Then I walked home. The next day I walked the block and a mailbox.
Speaker 2:So he goes, I started nice and small. He goes, and I ran my block the first day, I thought I could do that. Then the next day I ran a block and a mailbox. I said, I'm stronger than I thought. And then I did two blocks.
Speaker 2:And I goes I'm going do two blocks every day for a week. Because I don't want to push myself too hard. So maybe you will start just going for a little bit of a walk and maybe you move your body or you think you know something, I'm to do two push ups today. That's my goal. I'm going to do two push ups every day for a week.
Speaker 2:Two! And some of you think I can't do one, do it on your knees. Get on your knees and do the push up. Think about it. Start someplace.
Speaker 2:But first make the decision. The decision, I'm getting out of my trance. I am decided, I'm making a decision, I'm going to wake up and I'm going to improve myself starting today. Little by little, one step at a time, you eat an elephant, one bite at a time. Inch by inch, anything's a cinch.
Speaker 2:Yard by yard, it's hard.
Speaker 1:It's really important advice actually, which is good because I think it's very easy to overcomplicate this stuff. It's like, well, here's my seven steps to mastery, right? It's like, no, okay, you've already lost me. It's like, no, Make the decision. As I look back at my own life, actually, that's been I've had that experience over and over again.
Speaker 1:I hate that moment where it's like, Okay, you make that decision. I think that probably one of the biggest pivoting points in my life was back in freshman year of college, and, you know, I was, you know, I was in a liberal arts school, you know, private art school, and seeing, you know, all the different things happening and, you know, the drug use and this. And I remember I I had this really serious evening I spent journaling, and I I came to this point where I said, God, I have to know. Show me why it's so important to be good. Because I was seeing that all around me that a lot of people were choosing not to be good, even in, the easy kind of simple ways.
Speaker 1:And but it was such a strong it was like a it was like my soul crying out. Like, it was such a strong intention that I want to understand why it's important to be good, I want to choose a path of goodness. And that really, in a lot of ways, it really changed the entire trajectory of my life. And so, yeah, I think that's really, really important though, because I think that's it. You're right.
Speaker 1:Is just having that thought, having that initial intention, because there's so many people that don't even have that. They don't even have that. They're just I'm gonna read a Tony Robbins book a long time ago. He talked about people stuck in the current of the river, and they're just going wherever the river takes them. But, you know, stopping and saying, Wait, wait, hold on.
Speaker 1:Where's this river going? Maybe I don't wanna go where the river's going. Where if that's the case, where do I wanna go? It's just that initial intention, I think, is so powerful. Well, Kevin, we're already, you know, past an hour, which I you know, I I going in this, I knew it'd go quickly, so we'll have to do this again.
Speaker 1:But as we're wrapping up, I want to make sure that I bring up your website, which I'll put the links in the description of the show. So kevintrudeau.com. Your book is also on here as well. Is that correct? Is it under the store?
Speaker 1:Is that where people go?
Speaker 2:That is correct. If it's not on there today, it'll be on there very soon.
Speaker 1:Okay. Okay. So you had that on very soon. But you're you're can you hold your up? I'll full screen you again.
Speaker 1:Will you hold your book up again and kind of
Speaker 2:pull This that is the brand new book, Your Wishes, Your Command: How to Manifest Your Desires. And it's brand new. It's based on an audio series I did over twenty five years ago in the Swiss Alps, people paid $50,000 for two days. And I recorded it. I had the king of a country there, many billionaires there.
Speaker 2:Remember my brothers in the brotherhood were there. And I taught people the techniques that I learned in the brotherhood of how to manifest your goals, dreams and desires. Again, it's kind of like Think and Grow Rich on steroids, or it's The Secret times 10. So it talks about things that aren't in any book on success or manifesting or the law of attraction. So I took that audio series, I transcribed it, and then I took four months and I edited it into this book.
Speaker 2:I added a lot of bonus chapter material. I filled in a lot of the blanks and people who've read the manuscript saying, and they listened to the audios and they've manifested millions of dollars. Over the years, they said, Oh my God, this is 10 times better than the audios. You fill in all the blanks, you answer all the questions, you clarify everything. It is just the blueprint for success.
Speaker 2:It's being called the success system that never fails. So I'm very excited about it. I think it's going to help a lot of people who have struggled manifesting what they want. Maybe they tried to use the law of attraction, they tried to use some of the techniques in some of the books, and just aren't getting the results they want. When they read this, they're going to find out why, because they're going to see all the missing elements or how they misunderstood elements.
Speaker 2:And this gives you all the distinctions and fine tune adjustments that will create the results you want.
Speaker 1:And so screenshot the book if it's not in the website so far. Right? But we'll have okay. So I have your website there. Also, I I do wanna bring up your Rumble channel.
Speaker 1:As a fellow podcaster and a fellow Rumbler, I'll put this link in the description as well. It looks like I mean, a lot looking at the, titles I see right here that you're you're covering a lot of topics I'd be interested in looking at, which is which is good. And so, anyway, Kevin, as we're as we're wrapping up, do you have any final thoughts to conclude with?
Speaker 2:Well, the only thing I would like to make sure people grasp is a phrase that Zig Ziglar said years ago to me. He said, and he's a Christian, you know, he was a born again Christian, and he had a real Christian background, and I loved him for it. He said, you were designed for accomplishment. You were engineered for success, and you were endowed with the seeds of greatness. Always remember you were born to win.
Speaker 2:Go for your dreams, and don't let anyone ever steal your dreams.
Speaker 1:That's good. Those are great words to end on. Well, Kevin, it's been a pleasure. Thank you for giving us your time today. Really appreciate it.
Speaker 2:Great to be here. Good good to meet you.
Speaker 1:Thank you. I hope you enjoyed that show. I've now got a very short interview with Natalie Dominguez, who's gonna educate us on something that I didn't know existed until a few years ago, which is literally how people can steal your home without you even knowing it. So please enjoy this short interview. Natalie, it's great to have you on the show.
Speaker 1:Thank you very much for being here with us today.
Speaker 3:Glad to be here with you.
Speaker 1:So your job, which is interesting, your kind of purpose is to educate people on something that I knew very little about, you know, even a couple of years ago, which is how literally people's homes can be stolen without them even knowing it until it's too late. Right? Which which is home title theft. And so Mhmm. This is I guess, we'll we've got a couple different news articles that we're gonna be diving into, which show real examples of this.
Speaker 1:It's not just some conspiracy or some fear tactic. And, hey, make sure you're insuring this because this does happen. But before we look at those, just give us this, like, that 10,000 foot view. What is it? What is home title theft?
Speaker 1:How common is it? How does it happen? Just give us the kind of the elevator pitch to help us kinda make sure we're on the same page.
Speaker 3:Absolutely. So title fraud, title theft, it's it's, you know, known by a few different names. The FBI coined the term house stealing in the late two thousands. Used to be a crime that was done in in a lot smaller of oh my gosh. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:My brain is not working right now. So the crime used to be done in in, I feel like, a lot smaller quantities because back in the day in early two thousands, this was primarily a paper crime. Right? And it still technically is, but with so many advancements in technology and AI, and then especially post COVID with everything being done online, this crime has just skyrocketed. And, essentially, what it is is it's criminals and scammers that are taking advantages of these kind of legal loopholes in our, title filing system.
Speaker 3:So if I'm a criminal, I can walk into a county office and with a, you know, one to two page document depending on the municipality, I can file fraudulent paperwork and on paper claim ownership of someone's home. The public information is very easy to get because all of our property records are by statute public record. I can walk in any county office. If I have a general idea of where you live, I can walk in and probably find your home. I've done it with a few other of the, you know, hosting creators that we've worked with just to kinda show them how the process works.
Speaker 3:And even though they do have a good understanding of it, it still does tend to shock them every single time. So if I'm a criminal, I can go in, take advantage of that. Once the title documents have been filed, because the county's job is to record and not to authenticate, there's a little to no authentication practices that are happening at the county level. Even if they suspect it's fraud, by law, they still have to take it as long as it's filled out properly. So what this does is it gives the criminal or the scammer the ability to take your ownership on paper on record with the county and then go take out loans against your home or even sell the property behind your back.
Speaker 3:And most of the time, you don't know about this until, you know I know some of the stories you have as examples, you don't know about it until you're getting an eviction notice or, you know, pay back your loans now or we're gonna foreclose on your house notices in the mail, which most people tend to think are scams anyway nowadays. So it's it's a very easy crime to commit and a very hard crime to unwind.
Speaker 1:It's it's it's just incredible that the depth that people descend to to take advantage of people and rob people and targeting elderly people, especially that are relying on mail. And and they're they're easily susceptible to these kinds of scams. And so we've got a couple different cases to look at. I first wanna look at what happened out in Arizona. Let me pull this up.
Speaker 1:We've got an article about this here. Mhmm. So so predatory real estate scam. So stripped homes from owners in Arizona, their AG has come out and said. So I'll just read read a little bit about this, and I'll let you explain it.
Speaker 1:So this is from early, back in August. So AG, Chris Mays, announced Monday her office is suing predatory entities who lured vulnerable homeowners into signing away ownership of their property. At a minimum, hundreds of people have been victimized by an alleged real estate scam that's at the center of a civil complaint being brought by the law enforcement agency. So the the defendants in the lawsuit filed, by her office are accused of presenting themselves as professionals who could help homeowners at risk of foreclosure. But the AG's office said the defendants were tricking these individuals into signing over the deeds of their homes.
Speaker 1:The lawsuit's being filed against Edward and Gretchen along with more than 50 entities that they allegedly controlled. She described the allegations containing the lawsuit as immoral and disgusting behavior. That these schemes involved soliciting homeowners and convincing them to transfer their deeds into a trust, but the deeds were actually being transferred into shell entities allegedly controlled by these, you know, alleged criminals. So this is kinda crazy. And I think this is something that I think also if someone is, say, a few months behind on their mortgage payment, and they're getting these notifications, and they're already in a situation where they're feeling stressed, they're vulnerable.
Speaker 1:If someone shows up and says, hey. Look. We specialize in helping you avoid foreclosure. We can you know, I'm sure they can present this really amazing case for how they can make sure they keep their home and just sign the dotted line. This is this is why so this is this is a prime example, right, of title theft, basically.
Speaker 3:Yeah. It's and personally, I think the most terrible part about this is that these people are physically going and making contact with, these, you know, elderly homeowners that are kind of in need of help. Was really unfortunate because most of the time when this happens, there is no direct contact. Right? It's a very subvert, under the table kind of thing that just happens and you don't find about it till way later.
Speaker 3:But in this specific case, they were making contact. And what is scary is if you were to go try to fight this in court, right, let's say a criminal does this to you in your home, and you can look at the paper and go, that's not my signature. We have a handwriting expert. You know, It's still on you to prove that it's fraud, but it's a lot easier. Whereas these criminals are taking the extra step and getting the actual homeowners to actually sign over.
Speaker 3:So these are technically legitimate documents, but still forged because the intention was not presented properly. Right? So it's so much harder to fight legally, because these documents are technically legitimate. Right? Like, the homeowner did sign it.
Speaker 3:It is their signature, and it's it's very important, but it is title fraud because what they're doing is also taking that ownership and transferring it into these Shell LLCs, these businesses that don't exist, or these people that don't exist and then going out and taking these fraudulent loans. And and I don't think any of the properties got pulled, but I do know that a lot of the the loans happened.
Speaker 1:It's just crazy. So there's another one I'll bring up here, which is I think even more wild about this church. So let me pull up, make sure I have the right article here. Yeah. So here we go.
Speaker 1:Let me just get rid of the ads on the page there. This is crazy. Like, so so this person literally was stealing churches. Okay. And then I had to read a little bit about this.
Speaker 1:It's almost too wild to comprehend. So the headline here is, I didn't understand how the law did not help us. Church theft highlights why Texas lawmakers acted on deed theft. It says, the new Texas law makes real property theft a crime, extends statute of limitations, and strengthens tools to return stolen property and secure restitution. So what it says here, it says, for pastor for pastor Corey Maxey, the case wasn't just about fraud on paper.
Speaker 1:It was about losing his family's place of worship. His grandfather had founded the West Dallas Church. I didn't understand how the law did not help us when we had documentations of who I am and all that, he said. And the fraud, he said, was carried up by someone who called himself a pastor. So what happened here, he said, when the plea when we when we called the police out, the police told us we had a civil situation.
Speaker 1:So in 2017, pastor Whitney Foster transferred ownership of the church from Maxey's congregation. He says it scattered my congregation, so it kinda broke us up. So cases like Maxey's helped push for a new law known as s b 16, which has recently passed. So it says, in the past, law enforcement thought this was purely evil, this said the AG. So I'm I'm gonna just read a little more down at the bottom to explain what happened here.
Speaker 1:So basically, scrolling down here. They're describing how how this actually how this process works. But basically, what happened with this guy is that this other person, like, literally took over his own church and then, you know, kind of finagled with the documents and literally moved his his congregation into this guy's church. This guy tries to go back to his church with his congregation. Someone else is there.
Speaker 1:And he basically had used these, I guess, criminal activities to to literally steal someone's church, which is this absolutely insane to think about.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So I'm actually I'm very familiar with this article. Part of my job, like you kind of said in the beginning was I have to be very familiar with the news stories that are happening. One, because we also like to keep up with the different states and kind of what they're doing according to the law. So I'll I'll touch on that in a moment.
Speaker 3:But what's what's very sad is this you know, I'm not gonna say pastor, I'll say the criminal. Right? The pastor that did the wrongdoing. So this criminal took advantage of the pastor and their congregation had moved out of the church temporarily for some renovations. And this is something that very often happens with, title fraud and title theft is criminals will target, you know, vacant property, vacant land, homes that are are being renovated.
Speaker 3:We've seen two in the past year alone that were literally families that were out for renovation, and they came back to bulldozed homes. Two separate ones. Much longer story, but, they are higher targets because you aren't there. You're not being watchful and things like that. So the pastor had done the title fraud, or sorry.
Speaker 3:The criminal had done the title fraud, moved the congregation in. And then when the the original pastor had gone and tried to they called the police. They had the police come over, tried to get them kicked out. But what happened was because the criminal was the owner on record, the police basically said, well, this is what the county records are showing us. I know you have some records, but these are the the legal on record records.
Speaker 3:We can't do anything about it. You need to go back to the county or or, you know, get it seen before a judge and have them kicked out. K? So this is the biggest problem with title fraud in my personal opinion. Yes.
Speaker 3:They they passed a law that kind of, you know, extended the statute of limitations because you don't find out about this right away and did things like that. But what's actually happening is it takes so long like, the only recourse you have for a as a homeowner sorry. Let me pause. The only recourse that you have as a homeowner is to hire a lawyer and get the scene before a judge. If I walk into a county office and I say, hey.
Speaker 3:Fraud has been done on my property. This piece of paper is not me. It's not my signature. At the county, they're not gonna go, oh, this wasn't you. Cool.
Speaker 3:That's not gonna happen. They're gonna say, sorry. It's a civil matter. You have to go hire a lawyer. Have to get it seen before a judge.
Speaker 3:Same thing that the police we work with a lot of law enforcement. They say the same thing. When it comes to scams and things of that nature, it's not criminal. It's civil. So in this case, what is the saddest part of it is that even though this case brought up something for the state and they were able to go and push through some some law changes, To this day, from our understanding, eight years later, this pastor still does not have his church back because he did not have the funds to go through the legal process and the lengthy process it took to get the the everything straightened out.
Speaker 3:But since then, this criminal pastor has done this to three total churches that they knew of and has been sentenced and is currently in jail. I think 35 is what he got. So it just that is where the logic just I I'm completely locked because how can someone go to jail for this crime, but the original pastor doesn't get the property back? Right? And it's because they're two different processes.
Speaker 3:One is a criminal proceeding, and one is technically a civil proceeding. And nothing is being done to change that, really.
Speaker 1:It's absolutely insane. And so tell us a little bit more about home title lock. Right? So that's who you represent. And it's this is I've I've learned a lot through you, and I've done interviews with other people of your team.
Speaker 1:And also, like, guy who's, like, a he was a formal title a former title thief, which was interesting. So Match. Like, the one thing that I'm seeing with this is that it's way more common than people would think. And it just happens. And a lot of times, you don't know what's happened until it's too late.
Speaker 1:And it may not be too late to say get your house back, but it's too late from the perspective that you may not afford all of the legal fees, all the process it takes to actually go and disprove and, you know, prove basically that a criminal did this. Because as you mentioned, a lot of times, like, the police, they just look in they go to the county, and they look at the documents that are there. And those documents have already been basically forged or manipulated or replaced with the ones that say you don't own your home. And also Yep. The bank.
Speaker 1:Right? So the person who then maybe even steals your identity and then steals your home and takes out, say, a half million dollar mortgage, say, with JPMorgan Chase in your name, then you can't just go to the bank and say, hey. That wasn't me because they're saying no. You owe us half $1,000,000, and so we're gonna foreclose on your house. So And it just gets people in a complete mess.
Speaker 1:So walk us through what home title lock does.
Speaker 3:For sure. And before I do, I do wanna touch on something that you said that was very important. I constantly because I do a lot of these interviews, I talk to the public a lot. I am on Facebook y'all. I'm just gonna say hi.
Speaker 3:I do actually respond to people. It is me. It's not bots. But I I do see a lot of people with a lot of very, very common misconceptions. You know?
Speaker 3:I my my credit is frozen. Well, if they transfer out of your name, it's not in your name. It's not in your credit. It's on the bank. It's not on me if it's fraud.
Speaker 3:Nope. Sorry. I know that's a very thing to say in your head, but it's not. We've seen people in the news Google it. Right?
Speaker 3:We've seen people in the news lose their homes because the bottom line is a bank is gonna have better lawyers than you do. A bank is gonna know how to get their money back regardless of who they hurt. They don't care. They're not just gonna, you know, brush off a $203,100,000 dollar loan because someone took advantage of an 80 year old. It's sadly, it's the way that it it the world works.
Speaker 3:And it's horrible, but it's the way the world works. So that's why our company Home Title Locked does what we do. So, we do offer protection for this crime in the sense of there there are some other companies, I cannot name who they are, that, you know, claim to monitor your title or send you notifications. But what we do at Home Title Lock is so much more important because we're not just monitoring alerts. Our million dollar triple lock protection is really protection for the homeowner.
Speaker 3:It no one can stop the crime from happening. That has to happen at the government level. We can't stop it. The other company, as I mentioned, can't stop it. But what we can do is we can be there for the homeowner in the aftermath.
Speaker 3:So let's say hypothetically you are a victim of the crime. The first part the first lock of our million dollar triple lock protection is going to twenty four seven monitor your property. This is important. We monitor the property, not the person. Because if we're monitoring you, your Social Security number, whatever it is, again, they transfer the home out of your name, nothing pitting your Social Security.
Speaker 3:Identity theft protection doesn't cover this. Credit monitoring doesn't cover this. So we monitor the property, not person. Two, urgent alerts. The moment something is filed, it then has to go through this whole recording process in the back end, and this is something that a lot of people don't really understand either is that it's not just you file something on paper and suddenly you get alerted.
Speaker 3:It has to go through. They have to index things. They have to file things. They have to scan it. And once it becomes electronically available in that database, we pick it up.
Speaker 3:We notify you. And this is anything that's filed on your home. Even if it is something that you are doing, we don't just kind of determine what's suspicious or not because that's not effective. It's anything filed against your property. And then third, and most importantly, in my opinion, we're the only company that does this is our million dollar restoration.
Speaker 3:So from start to finish, if you are the victim of this crime and you come to us and you say, hey. Someone filed this on my house, and it wasn't me. Like, what do I do? Our team of restoration experts are immediately gonna jump in and take over the process. The only thing that we really have you do that we're not allowed to do is file a police report if you haven't done so already.
Speaker 3:We do have to have that on the record, but then we take everything over. Depending on what state you're in, we will go through the process of, finding representation, going through the court proceedings. We handle all of the legal fees. We do the court filing fees. We we literally take everything away from the homeowner so that you don't have to do anything.
Speaker 3:And the reason this is important is we look at people like pastor Maxey, who is eight years later without his church back because he couldn't afford legal fees. That's why we do what we do. So that you as a homeowner, if you're, you know, an 80 year old that's being scammed, you're not on your own. It's not your money. It's not, you know, your emotional eye and your time management and all that stuff.
Speaker 3:We just we we take it over. We do it for you. Our company was created because, our CEO and founder went through something very personal himself, and that's how we found out about, you know, this growing crime. And that's when Home Treadlock was made so that people that are not getting the help from, you know, the government, the people that were supposed to be kind of, you know, helping us and protecting us, have have some sort of recourse. So that's why we do what we do.
Speaker 1:Makes perfect sense. So it's really it's it's it's monitoring. It's flagging you every change that happens similar to know, I've got these kind of I won't name the exact company, but, know, you'll get a notice if you're, know, someone's applied for a loan. So maybe it's me. Maybe I went and I was gonna finance a new lawnmower or something.
Speaker 1:I get a notification. So, you know, I'm the best person to sort through, hey. Did you just, you know, take out a new loan against your house? It's like, no. Okay.
Speaker 1:So but what's I think what's most important though is you have that, if I'm correctly, you'll spend up to a million dollars to basically make sure that that situation is fixed. And so if something does happen, it slips through the cracks, and you figure that out, your team, they have the attorneys, they know how the legal process works, they know the exact process it's gonna take to make sure that that can be resolved, and you're guaranteed up to a million dollars in whatever it takes to to make that happen, which seems to me like Absolutely.
Speaker 3:That's what we're gonna do. Time life too. I mean, we we've had cases where, in in our in our restoration for our restoration customers, I mean, we've had cases where they knew who it was. It was maybe a family member. I can't give specifics because of the cases, but one of them was a rogue lawyer that the family had worked with.
Speaker 3:In those cases, that makes it a little bit easier because we actually know who the person was. But we go through it with the family from start to finish. Sometimes they take, you know, a month and sometimes it's a year, and we're going to court for a year and we're getting stuff taken care of. But, again, that's why we do what we do to make sure that we're there for the homeowner when otherwise they'd be doing everything themselves. And we have a legal network across The US because every municipality is also different.
Speaker 3:Every state has different rules and different laws and different ways to go about it. So we make sure that we are up to date with what goes on in every single state and every single county so that we are prepped and ready to jump in, you know, if and when needed.
Speaker 1:Makes perfect sense. Well, Natalie, thank you so much for your time today and educating I us on really appreciate you being here with us today.
Speaker 3:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:Thank you. I hope you enjoyed that short but educational interview. Just to recap, the website you go to is hometitlelock.com/seth. And if you use the promo code seth, you're gonna get a title history report for free and a free trial of their triple lock protection. So again, go to hometitlelock.com/seth and start this process now.
Speaker 1:Because as you can see, this is the real deal. Thank you.