The Final Episode

After nine years, David is retiring from channeling and bringing the podcast to a close. In this last conversation, Matt joins David for an unhurried look back — on creation, the Tya Practice, and the long arc of channeling and coaching that carried the work from the first episode to this one. 

No agenda, just two friends closing the loop. 

Thank you for listening.

Creators and Guests

Host

David Strickel

Guest

Matthew Gardan

Producer

Stephanie Pitman

What is David Strickel | The Stream?

David Strickel examines consciousness, fear, judgment, and how humans orient themselves in a rapidly changing world.

His perspective is shaped by his ongoing relationship with Source consciousness known as the Stream.

These episodes provide context, inquiry, and reflection through conversation and lived experience.

The podcast exists to support clear thinking and sovereignty of mind during periods of uncertainty.

The Final Episode - Podcast 324, The Tya Podcast.

We are setting an intention.

That's your thing, Matt.

Go for it.

That's my thing.

All right,

well let's on this auspicious occasion

let's set an intention for for our

wonderful interaction so.

If you're driving don't close don't close

your eyes,

but sit up straight and still pay

attention to the road you're operating

heavy machinery.

Everyone else if you don't floor sit up

straight eyes closed we're going to do

three deep breaths and bring our attention

and energy into this interaction so first

deep breath in.

and hold and just let the weak fall

away and let the outside world fall away.

It'll be there when you get back and

breathe out.

Second deep breath in.

And hold and just bring your attention and

your focus into this interaction and into

this experience you're going to have and

the intention that you receive the

knowledge and the wisdom that you need for

this moment,

wherever you are on your journey.

Deep breath out.

And last deep breath in.

Really bring your energy to this

interaction and feed it and support it as

we will so that we can have a

magical interaction for our podcast today.

The last intention.

The last intention.

Yes.

Yeah, yeah.

The last of our podcasts.

Daddy and daddy are not doing podcasts

anymore.

Daddy and daddy.

Maybe if we called it daddy and daddy,

I don't know.

So this is the last podcast.

We started out in two thousand seventeen

or I started out in two thousand seventeen

solo.

The stream of David was the name of

the podcast.

It was the first place I ever channeled

publicly.

And for a long time,

it was just me.

And then I started meeting other people

around the world that were into what I

was offering.

And then suddenly I started having guests.

And you have been a frequent guest since

two thousand eighteen.

Yeah, I think so.

Yeah.

Co-host.

You're setting the intentions.

I don't even bother with all that.

So it was good.

It was a good it was good for

me to get grounded because I didn't know

how I was going to feel recording the

final one of all of them.

But it's been, gosh, nine years.

And coming up on nine, it'll be nine.

I think we started in September of twenty

seventeen.

So we didn't quite make ten years.

We're at the nine year mark.

Last I checked,

we were still a top one,

one point five percent podcast.

So we have a nice audience.

I have never really tried to monetize this

through advertising other than advertising

the things that we're doing.

So that hasn't been a big deal.

You know how many people are listening.

But it's nice.

I do hear from a lot of people

pretty regularly about things that we talk

about.

And it's it's it's been nice.

It's been a good run.

It's been fun.

And I feel like it has been fun.

We are going out on top.

instead of letting the energy fizzle.

And I feel that way about the coaching

program too.

Many of you that have been listening know

that I have been running a coaching

program in addition to channeling

for many years.

It was one of the first things that

I did is when I decided to quit

my job and just channel,

I had no idea how I was going

to support myself.

And the opportunity came,

came around very quickly to get into

coaching.

And I started with a program in twenty

eighteen called Abundance Breakthroughs.

And is that what you came in?

Did you come into Abundance Breakthroughs

or Taya?

Taya.

So pretty quickly,

we converted Abundance Breakthroughs,

became a full-blown mindset practice with

four pillars and all of these tools.

And really,

it's something that I created for myself.

And we decided to give it a more

formal name.

We called it the Taya Practice or Taya,

T-Y-A for Trust Your Abundance.

And then the program became Taya Bootcamp.

And Taya Bootcamp ran for years with

hundreds of graduates and a lot of great

success stories.

I love the fact that you can go

on Trustpilot right now and read some of

our reviews are stellar.

We helped a lot of people transform their

lives.

And I still hear from people years later

who still utilize the practice,

who will always utilize it.

So Taya will always be a thing.

And the good news is we wrote a

book,

so the whole practice is in the book.

You don't need me to teach it anymore.

It's in a book.

Yeah, the knowledge is really powerful.

Yeah,

two thousand nineteen and two thousand

nineteen, I think.

Anyway, early on, it's been a while.

It's been a while.

It's been great.

Definitely.

Definitely.

We were well into it pre-COVID.

I still remember I was sitting on a

plane heading up to Hong Kong and the

plane was pushing back and I thought I'll

just do a final scroll before I lose

Wi-Fi.

And the ad came up and I downloaded

the book, you know,

as the plane was kind of taxiing down

towards the end of the runway and read

it the whole way up.

And I think I got in touch the

next week.

Yeah, that was the first book.

That was the stream book because that's

all that was.

Yeah, it's a very clear memory.

And it is, you know,

I think if you allow it,

your soul will lead you in a magical

path.

And most people stumble across Tyre and

stumble across this knowledge beautifully

serendipitously.

Yeah, any time we ever try,

because the coaching industry really blew

up during COVID.

COVID was a very good time for all

of us that were in the coaching industry.

And there's plenty of people out there

that do a lot of marketing stuff.

around these programs.

And I have to say the marketing piece

never worked for us.

I tried it probably three different times,

investing a lot of money,

just trying to reach more people with it.

And the marketing was never the thing that

worked.

The thing that worked was always just

organic reach, getting out there,

talking to people,

doing podcasts as a guest,

doing this podcast.

That's what worked.

Year after year,

all of these people really came through

the program because they got to know me

on the podcast.

Therefore,

they trusted me and they would enroll in

the program with relative ease for years.

And people were envious.

How do you get such high enrollment

numbers in comparison to how many people I

talk to?

And it's because we weren't relying on

marketing to try to strong arm people into

a program that they didn't even really

know what it was.

And then when we did try that,

we were never strong arming,

but we tried the marketing piece of it.

It just was a flop every time.

Marketing absolutely works,

but just for us,

the organic was just far more effective.

Yeah, yeah.

And it's horses for courses, right?

This is knowledge you need to be ready

for.

It's not something you buy and stick on

as a band-aid.

One of the things that you were always

quite honest about is you have to do

the work.

You have to do the push-ups.

Yeah, it is work.

And it's still, I,

the practice for me is autopilot.

Now I just do the practice on auto.

And for a lot of people, that's true.

It's just how I live my life.

And it,

it sends you on a journey and the

journey is not perfection.

The journey is not manifest everything you

want all the time.

And the stream has been very clear.

We are not here for that.

And I'm not here to teach.

I've been teaching for years and that's

exactly what I don't want to do.

But, um,

I want to acknowledge that channeling

feels amazing.

I, I love channel.

I,

and I love hearing things come from me

from the stream that I've never thought of

that are big aha moments yet.

I'm sharing it and it's,

it's downloading into my mind and I'm,

I'm speaking in a real time and they

have never been wrong in all of these

years.

They have everything they've ever said

has, has turned out to be true and,

It's very to the point.

It's very cut and dry to the point.

It's not necessarily entertaining.

It doesn't necessarily coddle you and tell

you what you want to hear.

I know that there is some of that

out there.

People get put off by it.

But it's just, this is universal law.

This is how creation happens.

This is your purpose in being.

This is why you come to this life.

And when you start living your life

appreciation of all things.

We've started using the word

omni-appreciation here toward the end.

It really does shift every experience to

something that is positive.

Judgment is the cause of all sorrow.

Yeah.

We always say, when people say judgment,

it's not about discerning preference.

It's about labeling something as it

shouldn't exist.

That's when we lose source.

And source is the source of healing,

solving, fixing things.

And when we're busy judging something as

this shouldn't be happening or I shouldn't

have experienced that,

the healing energy just isn't present

until we get back around to it if

we ever do.

Yeah, because you can't have,

you can't create space for healing when

you're focusing on anger and frustration

and resentment and injustice and

unfairness and victimization.

You know,

you can't focus on both things at the

same time.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So if you've been listening for a while,

you know that we had a Thai boot

camp that ran for years and we kind

of just went with the flow.

And this podcast has seen lots of

different iterations.

It's not even called The Stream of David

anymore.

We kind of dropped that about a year

ago and really just went toward David

Strickle, The Stream.

And the coaching piece for me,

we really did a lot of work last

year

to retire the old bootcamp program.

We came out with a new version of

it called High Stakes Change,

which I thought was fantastic.

And the people that took it did as

well.

We put a lot of work into really

bringing that up to date because the old

course had been out for seven,

eight years.

And by the end of all of that

work,

I was fairly burnt out from coaching.

Because when you're working with people

and a lot of people on a weekly

basis with the goal of getting them to

a transformational space where they feel

satisfied in the money and the time that

they invested in doing something.

you just get, at least for me,

I get exhausted.

I got exhausted by it.

And I just decided this isn't working for

me anymore.

I don't want to coach anymore.

I just want to channel and I'm going

to shut down the coaching academy and I'm

just going to focus on channeling.

And I'm to a point now to where

I'm even burnt out on that.

And what I really burnt out on is

just all of the public

I need to do a podcast.

We need to post on social media.

We need to figure out how to get

more people watching.

There's a monetization behind all of this

that makes it corporate,

that makes it a job.

And it was taking the joy out of

it for me.

That's why marketing departments exist.

Yeah.

It's a lot of effort.

It's a lot of work.

Even with the magic of AI,

it's still a lot of work.

AI cuts both ways.

I think it solves a lot of things

and it turns around and creates a whole

new set of problems.

That's just the way of the world.

That's the way of the universe.

You're going to solve something and

however you solve it is automatically

going to present polarity.

It's going to present duality.

A whole new set of challenges are going

to come with it.

I see that in AI.

AI helps me in many, many ways.

And then I turn around and realize that

I just did so much extra work because

I went down an AI rabbit hole that

I didn't necessarily need to go down,

that I wouldn't have gone down if I

didn't have this tool continuing to court

me to the next conversation.

I digress talking about AI,

but that's true for all of us.

To me, you're crazy, in my opinion,

not to use it because it's right there.

It's easy.

You know, I Google Gemini is so easy.

It's just right there on everybody's

phone.

You just ask some question.

You get some answers about things.

So I can't imagine that anyone with a

device isn't using it on some level now.

But definitely it to me,

it presents itself as this is a fact

and it's not always a fact.

Oh, never.

It's not gospel.

It's just mining the internet, basically,

and synthesizing things in a very

impressive way that it can go out and

get all this information.

I was working on a project over the

weekend unrelated to this business,

and I had to go find,

it ended up being a hundred and

thirty-nine separate emails.

Between parties,

this was about a real estate deal over

years, over fifteen years.

And I put the hundred and thirty nine

emails into one giant PDF and put it

into Claude.

And Claude gave me a summary in like

a minute.

And Michael's like, how did it do that?

I mean,

it's summarized like here's a percentage

of times, you know, you said this.

Here's a percentage of times they said

that.

Here's all this information.

You know,

it can just do it so efficiently.

Yeah.

And I ended up sending it to an

attorney and I'm like,

obviously this is from AI, but this is,

you know, they're like, wow.

But we would have paid a fortune to

have a paralegal, you know,

comb through all of that years ago.

Go through that manually.

And look,

I'm going to say something blasphemous

now, but even the gospel is not gospel.

So there's no, you know, nothing is fact.

Right.

But that's true.

There's no such thing as facts.

Everybody wants concrete black and white

and the universe just is not designed that

way.

You can have an opinion about something

that's very negative and then you can

learn more about it and shift your opinion

and suddenly it's a completely different

topic because your mindset around it has

changed.

That's true about everything.

You told me a couple of weeks ago

that things were winding down and I've

been kind of thinking about it since.

First of all,

I'm sad because I love doing these and

I got a huge amount out of the

program and out of coaching and it was

just such a joy to interact with people

who are doing this work and who are

growing.

But it also made me kind of think

about, you know,

there's a season to everything and just

about this general impermanence in life,

right?

You kind of think something,

you do something for a couple of years

and you think it's always going to be

there and you just kind of just assume

that it becomes part of the furniture,

right?

And it's a good reminder that everything

is impermanent, including our time here.

And we should, you know,

all the more reason to appreciate it.

This experience is so,

this experience that we all have is so

beautifully, elegantly designed,

perfectly designed for everything.

You know,

and the pain of loss and the pain

of sorrow and nostalgia is as important as

the joy of rapture and orgasm and love.

Beautifully said.

And it's fine to look back and say,

gosh,

this was such a nice experience and this

was so profoundly life-changing for a lot

of people and it's something that I

enjoyed doing.

But there's something,

and chalk it up to ADHD or just

my personality,

I have lived in

I wish I'd counted it up before this.

I have lived in at least twenty different

homes as an adult.

I have lived in multiple cities and

multiple states.

I've had four or five career changes in

my lifetime.

I've had three marriages.

Lots of cars.

I'm always wanting I move through an

experience and then I want to move on

to the next and the next and have

a different experience.

And I had the coaching experience for

years and I had the channeling experience.

And there were a lot of things I

liked about it.

There were elements that I didn't.

And there were some elements I always felt

like sort of an outsider to the

spirituality world.

That's okay.

You know,

I never really assigned myself to all

that.

I know that there's a lot of power

in joining these.

There's something out there now called the

channel panel.

I think I was on it when it

first started.

Yeah.

just never really paid attention to it

anymore.

And it's all these channels that get

together and then people pay to get access

to all these different channels.

And I'm just not interested in things like

that.

I've never gone to Sedona and been part

of a group workshop.

I don't even know.

I've been saying for the past couple of

years that I don't even know that I

would consider what I do spirituality.

are spiritual.

It's just energetic.

And to me, source is that.

And spirituality is this big tent of all

sorts of belief systems.

And there's nothing wrong with any of

them.

If they serve a person and somebody wants

to do it,

then I think that's exactly what they

should do.

But I've just never felt really aligned

with all that.

You know, manifestation, energetic.

I don't really like the word law of

attraction because I think it's so

overused and misused.

Conscious creation or the process of

creation.

I will always be a fan of that

because we're always creating.

That's what life is.

We're creating our problems.

We're creating our solutions.

We're creating our next chapter.

And I think the stream has delivered for

me very early on a fearlessness that

I'm willing to walk away from a high

paying job or a marriage that's no longer

working or anything that, you know,

this was nice, but there's something else.

There's always something else.

And if ever I land into a place

where this is it, there's no more.

Well then, okay, I have clarity on that.

But so far,

When one chapter closes,

another one opens.

And that happened for me as soon as

I started winding down coaching and

thinking about winding down the stream

altogether and really made that decision.

A week later,

a whole new world that's totally different

that I'm really excited about.

And it's actually something that I've

wanted to be involved in.

And I have been involved in off and

on,

but something I started out wanting to do

and I didn't really have the funding to

do it.

And now I do.

So I'm going to go chase a completely

different passion now and make that my

focus and my livelihood.

And I'm excited to do it.

I will be a much more private individual

moving forward.

You're not going to see me on social

media or podcasts.

I had podcast bookings that our agent had

me booked out into the fall,

and I've canceled all of them.

I don't want to do it anymore.

I don't want to show up.

the sake of just showing up yeah i

am now focused elsewhere and it's not fair

to the audience for me to keep showing

up and pretending to do something you know

that i'm just not into anymore you know

the stream will always be with me and

we have mastermind going through the end

of the year anyway because we have clients

and so that would be my last thing

that we're doing

His Taya Mastermind is going to run all

the way through twenty twenty six.

And if you want to be in the

mastermind, by the way,

plug one more thing one last time.

You can go on the David Strickle dot

com.

You can go and join mastermind quarterly

and you can pay and be in with

us for a quarter for quarter three of

twenty twenty six and quarter four of

twenty twenty six.

And then that shut down forever after

that.

Wow.

Yeah.

End of an era.

Yeah.

But, you know, the podcast,

we will keep the podcast out there.

So the whole archive of the podcast is

out there.

YouTube,

we're taking some things on YouTube down

just to shrink it.

We've deleted most of our social media

accounts at this point.

Mm-hmm.

And, um, the, uh, the book, you know,

there's two books that are out there and

I have written a third book.

There is a third book that I worked

on.

I got, uh, twenty-five chapters written,

which is the whole book.

And then I went back and started rewriting

up to seventeen and then I got blocked

and stopped.

Mm-hmm.

So at some point,

I will probably be ready to pick that

up again and finish it.

And the lovely thing about this third book

is it's the culmination of all of Taya

and all of the stories of all of

the people that we've worked with over all

these years.

And if you're in the book and we

haven't contacted you for permission,

we have changed identity so nobody will

know who you are,

but we're telling the stories of the

people that came through.

And there are some significant stories.

We have people that have...

that are still living that had terminal

diagnosis years ago,

people that have healed themselves,

people that miraculously healed themselves

to the point where a physician couldn't

explain how it happened.

We've had people that have moved through

the experience of having a child who was

murdered,

having a child who committed suicide.

having drug-addicted children, gosh,

all sorts of relationship issues,

a lot of money issues,

people who are exiting high-profile

marriages that were going to be completely

destitute as a result and ended up not

being that.

Energetically,

people coming in with a real thing they

wanted to solve and solving them.

And then a whole lot of other people

that just wanted to come in and have

more inner peace.

not be so triggered about politics and

economy and the state of the world and

realizing that all of this stuff is just

smoke and mirrors.

It's all just a little show that we're

creating to expand our consciousness in.

And what the politicians are doing or the

tech oligarchs are doing only matters as

much as you allow it to.

Yeah.

Yeah, absolutely.

And you've had, you know,

there's been everyone.

There have been paupers who've kind of

sold their lasts

possession to do the course and

miraculously turn their lives around.

There have been billionaires who.

Oh, I've had homeless people.

I've had people that were literally

homeless come in and manifest the money

and pay and move through the program and

were not homeless by the end of it.

And like you said,

we've had billionaires too.

Believe it or not, billionaires,

as much as they're demonized these days,

at least in the United States,

I'm sure everywhere,

they have problems too.

And they're real.

At least the people that would make a

program like ours, those are real.

We have had people with household names

privately come through that had real

problems that were solved as a result of

this.

It's very satisfying work.

Can I convince you to keep going, David?

Come on.

You know the answer to that.

We've talked about that.

It's good to go out

say going out on top, you know,

I'm not the biggest name out there in

this by any stretch of the imagination,

but no, but it's good.

It's good to choose.

It's good to choose.

Yeah.

I am.

I'm choosing to,

to end it at a time where,

you know, people are still listening.

People are still showing up.

I'm still helping people.

I have a great, you know,

reputation online.

Nobody's going online saying, you know,

David ripped me off of this, you know,

program or any of those things that go

on.

And yeah,

That feels good.

It feels good that we have helped people.

We have made a difference.

And now it's time for me to just

go on and do something else.

Whatever happens with Taya moving forward,

again, there's a book.

There can be groups.

There can be whatever out there around it.

It's a philosophy and a mindset.

And who knows?

Who knows what will happen with it next?

It'll either continue to grow or it'll

fade away and both are fine.

Yeah, and look,

the knowledge was never hidden, right?

We've been terribly explicit about

everything on almost every podcast, right?

There are four pillars.

Yeah,

that might have hurt us as far as

the business goes,

but I'm just not one to gatekeep something

that's so magical.

And that's the great thing about the

podcast and the book too.

The book is not a big investment and

the whole practice is actually in the

book.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's great.

There's two more very clear about that.

You know, it's something, sorry,

this isn't something that, um,

should be kept from anyone.

It's, it's,

it's something that it's knowledge that's

available to everybody.

That's fine.

I was gonna laugh at your yawning and

I'm like, oh, the editor.

Oh, wait, we don't have an editor anymore.

We got rid of the editor.

We're just gonna put this out here raw

because if someone's offended by our,

our unpolished podcast, oh, well, there's,

there's nothing left to listen to anyway

after this.

I think sometimes people don't realize how

much effort goes into recording a podcast

and hiring an editor to professionally

edit it.

There's a lot of moving parts behind all

of this.

There are very few mediums,

not mediums as far as someone who's

psychic,

but there's very few things out there that

are really offered up for free.

You know,

usually there's some sort of a money

making mechanism because everything costs

money to do.

And that's just the way of our world.

We live in a system of exchange.

So if you're going to have a podcast,

it's going to cost money.

If you're going to have, you know,

if you're going to do social media,

why are you doing social media?

Some people just do it for fun.

Some people do it for attention.

And most people are on there because they

want to grow an audience and monetize the

audience in some way.

You know, it's just,

that's just how it is.

You know, it's funny.

I was watching, um,

I'm not a big Oprah person.

I'm very impressed with her and use her

as an example of somebody who came from

nothing and built an empire.

And that's very, very true.

But I haven't really ever really watched

her show much and I don't pay much

attention to her.

Well,

she did a show that I was interested

in the other day about this GLP one

medication and Serena Williams was on as a

guest.

And it felt like it watching an

infomercial.

It was kind of funny.

Have you ever watched an infomercial in

the middle of the night?

Yeah, those long ones.

And then I realized that, ah, that's,

you know, that's what this is.

She's, she's marketing this product.

And I didn't even,

I didn't even put it together,

but I thought this.

Yeah.

And then I look in a magazine and

there's Serena Williams in an ad for the

product.

I'm like, ah,

of course they're making money, you know,

good for them.

But let's not pretend like people are

putting things out just for the goodness

of their heart.

There's,

there's usually some sort of a monetized

mechanism that

running under the surface because

everything costs money to produce.

So that's not, that's not good or bad.

And there's certainly nothing wrong with

it.

It's just the way the world works at

this time.

And it just is.

And so, you know,

the business part of it was always tied

to this.

But the satisfaction wasn't in the money

that it generated.

The satisfaction is the results that we

got and the relationships that were

created.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Because I can make money doing a lot

of things.

I've been in real estate.

I've been in retail.

I have made money in different businesses

over the years.

This was never just a money-making

mechanism for me.

And I think anybody that's been around

knows that.

It's not easy ways to make money.

Yeah, that's true.

It's been a passion project for me for

many, many years.

And we're very grateful.

Well, I'm certainly very grateful.

I think everyone's very grateful.

Long-term listeners will be because we get

so much out of it, right?

And it's such a joy to commune with

people who share this knowledge and who

apply this knowledge to their daily lives.

And it can be...

It can be lonely when you don't have

that community around you where you're the

only person who's done this sort of work

and everyone else is still stuck in the

rat race and stuck in the Newtonian

experience of the world where you have to

hammer away at everything.

Yeah.

So the community is important.

And certainly for me, this podcast,

the community and the coaching and stuff

was an important part of that.

of my practice.

So I'm a little bit,

there's a beautiful French word, chagrin.

I'm a little bit chagrined today,

which is kind of a soft melancholy

tristesse, sadness.

Because it's been a great season in my

life, you know.

And like you,

and I think like most of the people

who,

or like anyone who wants to pick up

the practice, you can keep doing it.

And the important thing is to be true

and to honor your daily practice.

You know,

and you can still do that by being

sad that there's not going to be any

more podcasts or more content put out.

But the important stuff is still there.

And like you said.

Well,

there's three hundred plus episodes over

nine years.

There's plenty of content there.

Are you keeping,

is the Facebook group still open?

No, we shut all that down.

No, that's cool.

Because if you don't start,

if you don't manage it actively,

people start infiltrating your group and

they hack it and all this stuff.

And it's better just to take it down.

And, you know, there's, again,

Taya is out there.

There's a book.

There can be discussions amongst

yourselves about it.

I'm just not going to be really involved

in it anymore.

I just feel like I need to close

the chapter so that I can open this

next one that I'm really excited about.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And the other thing is too,

For those of us who come into it,

you know, fresh and stuff,

it's like new and exciting and it's an

incredible thing.

You've had access to this and you've been

communicating with the stream most of your

life, right?

So you've been in the experience of

understanding that there's more who this

world's than what we initially perceive

for a lot longer than most people,

you know, and I think that's,

What's so powerful about Tyre for me,

and generally,

is the results are so quick once you

apply the framework.

And you get that evidence and you get

that feedback almost immediately that, oh,

shit, actually.

It's that easy.

It's that easy and it's not how I

thought it was.

I grew up thinking the world was one

way and now I've done a little bit

of effort and application on this new,

with this new knowledge and I'm getting a

glimpse into the world being a completely

different way.

And it's like, what?

You know,

it's like falling down the rabbit hole

with Alice.

Yeah,

and we really are creating our reality.

There's a story I'll share that's kind of

interesting.

I am looking to get healthier,

and I think I shared with you that

I've got a program.

When I gain weight during COVID,

I've had a hard time taking it off

for various reasons,

and I want to take the weight back

off.

I spent ten years getting in the best

shape of my life,

and then all of a sudden it was

all erased by my own doing.

I didn't have to do that,

but I did it.

So I had that experience.

So I'm thinking of these in this new

chapter of my life.

What are some things that I want to

take on as hobbies that I've sort of

let go because I was so focused on

growing Taya.

And I remember thinking I used to really

like watching boxing.

Back when Mike Tyson, you know,

this was years ago.

Mike Tyson and I were the same age.

So obviously, you know,

I was young in his heyday.

Getting back in the ring?

Yeah,

I'm going to get back in the boxing

ring.

No, I'd be terrible at boxing.

I'm very stiff.

I move very slow.

I have a few spine.

I'm not boxing anybody.

but we were out to dinner there was

a big fight last year i forget who

it was it was like a celebrity fight

and uh we were out to dinner and

i went to i got to go the

restroom i came back through the bar and

the fight was on i'm like so i'm

like oh wow i really like watching this

you know why don't why don't i watch

this anymore so i'm sitting here thinking

how do you even watch boxing nowadays you

know i was used to pay-per-view hbo and

now it's streaming and you know where are

the apps where do you so i'm trying

to set all that up so i'm more

aware of what's going on the boxing world

At the same time,

I'm thinking that there's a new car that

I want to buy.

And I haven't bought a new car in

years.

And I want to buy a Range Rover.

I want a new Range Rover.

I just think they're beautiful.

And I see one, and I'm like, oh,

I really want to have that.

So I'm thinking Range Rover and boxing.

Last week, I went to get a pedicure.

When you have a fused spine,

you really shouldn't be bending down to

cut your own toenail.

But I don't get polished or anything like

that, but I do go get a pedicure.

So anyway, I go and get a pedicure.

And this dude comes in with his girlfriend

and he's all tattooed and she's over there

getting a pedicure.

And he sits next to me to get

a pedicure.

And neither one of us really look like

we belong in there, but it's okay.

We're in there getting our pedicure.

And then the guy that owns the place

says,

how do you like your new Range Rover?

He goes, oh, I love it.

It's right.

I looked out and there's a brand new

Ranger sitting out there.

And he says,

what have you got going on?

He says, you know,

I'm a boxing promoter and I have a

boxing match coming up.

The boxing promoter with a new Range Rover

sitting next to me.

That's energetic.

And I know it doesn't have to mean

anything.

And I tell Michael and he just looks

at me like, oh, it's a coincidence.

Who cares?

I'm like, how could that be a coincidence?

Those are two very specific things sitting

next to me.

So don't think for a second that I'm

still not enamored of how energy works and

how creation occurs.

Serendipity is really all around us all

the time.

We just have to be more open to

it and then these things just happen.

So, you know, it's just,

I just think it's,

and I don't try to assign like, oh,

I have to go and buy a Range

Rover right now and I have to watch

boxing because the universe is, no,

that's not the point.

It's that the thing that's on my mind

is literally showing up

you know,

in a human form sitting next to me

here,

just reflecting back the vibe that I'm in

right now at a pedicure of all places

to have a boxing promoter sitting next to

you.

It's crazy.

You couldn't have planned it, right?

It would have been impossible for you to

plan.

It's like that word that says you can't

make this stuff up.

Yeah, exactly.

And, you know,

there's a beautiful Alan Watts speech

where he says the universe is essentially

playful.

You know, our purpose here is to play.

That's it.

That's why kids innately love to play.

Yeah, and as adults,

we break that and we make everything

really hard.

It doesn't have to be.

No.

I mean, you can.

You can keep telling yourself you're

unlucky.

Guess what?

You'll be unlucky.

You can keep telling yourself you're

lucky, and guess what?

You'll be lucky.

Well, I like to, you know,

I do that because I make everything a

game.

You know, like, if I want to...

leave behind an old hobby and take on

a new one,

then that's the game is to align myself

with the new hobby or the new interest

or whatever it is.

And I like playing with that.

And even in business,

when people are acting up in business and

we're involved in a really high stakes

business now, and I love it.

I love it.

And there are twists and turns and, and,

and bad actors and all these things going

on.

And I, I just,

it's exhilarating to me because to me,

it's just all a game.

But for a lot of people, it's like,

oh, how can you, you know,

deal with that and these people and all

that pressure and, and all of this.

And, and I just can,

because I just view all of it as

not important because I'm not afraid to go

broke.

I'm not afraid for something to fail

because I've been there and there's always

been another day.

Yeah, there was this.

I'm at fifty-eight now and I've been all

over the place, you know,

up and down in every area of my

life, relationship, health, weight,

finance, business, all of it.

And I don't mind spinning out.

Yeah.

And you know how it's going to end.

You die.

Yeah, from what I understand,

we all end up doing that.

So yeah,

the physical journey always comes to an

end no matter what.

And we're all energetic beings.

So everybody wants to, you know,

hate on Bezos and Elon Musk and all

these people right now.

But at the end of the day,

they're going to end up dust and energy

just like the rest of us.

They're just having a different

experience.

And I'm sure if you talk to them

on a bad day,

they will tell you how awful their life

is when they're really down their spiral

just like everybody else.

Oh, yeah, the pressure's immense.

Is it Bezos' ex-wife who's just spending

everything,

spending all her billions in philanthropy

for women's causes?

Yeah, philanthropy, yeah.

You know,

she got half of everything because they

became successful together,

and she got half of his fortune,

and she's donating it,

and he's enjoying it.

Yeah, all of it.

there's nothing wrong i was talking to one

of you one of the ex um or

one of the students recently and he was

talking about uh just the approach he's

having in his business and and they're in

finance and stuff and so they talk about

total addressable market he's like you

know the total addressable market of

manifestation is infinite like just

dreaming small the universe is not on a

budget

Yeah.

I mean,

we have billionaires and soon

trillionaires because people believe they

can be that.

And then the economy meets that

expectation.

And the economy is always growing.

Well, why is that happening?

How do we have more resources now than

we had ten years ago and many more

than we had a hundred years ago?

We create the resource, we manifest them.

We're not, you know,

the earth is a self-sustaining

environment, obviously.

Yeah.

This is not to say, you know,

we're not encouraging everyone to be

billionaires,

but what we are encouraging people to do

is dare to dream a little bit bigger.

Like the things you should be,

the vision for your life should scare you

a little bit.

Because it's way more fun that way.

Yeah.

And don't,

the worst thing that you can do is

sit and try to figure out how.

Yeah.

The how is not our job.

If I tried to

imagine ten years ago how I would get

from there to where I am now I

would have never been able to chart

everything that's transpired to get me to

where I am now I just couldn't have

created it that way and exactly the same

for me I mean my life is fundamentally

fundamentally different to how it was when

we first met

But, you know,

and I walk around this house, you know,

the house burned, we built it back.

I picked everything in it.

I think it's absolutely beautiful.

You know,

I've got the best relationship I've ever

been in.

I've got these great dogs.

I answer to no one.

I have no stress in my life whatsoever,

really.

And every day is just another day of

here I am in this beautiful place with

these dogs and this is this great person.

And I got bored.

And that's when I decided I appreciate

this.

I don't want to walk away from it.

But that doesn't mean that I can't still

go create something.

I'm a creator.

I need to now go create something

different,

not continue to create in the same space

because I've done that.

I've done the coaching.

I've done the channeling.

I've done the books.

I've done all those things that are kind

of in that space.

I just want to shut the chapter on

all of that and just go do something

totally different,

a whole new challenge for myself.

Because at fifty eight,

do I really want to spend?

I got about twenty useful years left in

my life.

By the time I'm seventy eight,

I would imagine I'm going to be like

most seventy eight year olds.

And I know seventy eight year olds that

are very active,

but I think I have about twenty years

ahead of me.

And so what do I want that to

look like?

Do I want to spend twenty more years

just

being here and being happy and just doing

the same thing.

I've got a podcast studio.

It's right here.

I never have to leave the house if

I don't want to.

People show up.

They take programs.

I coach.

I just got bored with it.

I need something new to stimulate my mind.

I want another chapter of my life before

I'm gone.

And I want to pursue some new interests.

And so I'm sort of doing this big

reinvention.

And this is a major part of it.

This is the biggest part of it is

shutting this down.

Yeah.

Yeah, it is.

It is.

And I mean,

there's three things here that you

mentioned that I want to touch on that

are important.

One is there's nothing special about you

and me, right?

Like anyone can have a dream life.

We haven't done anything different.

Yeah,

the stream is not anointed me with

abundance.

You know,

I figured out how to get myself here

because it was in my head.

But we all have the stream in us.

They say over and over again,

we flow to all of you.

The difference in me,

the only thing different about me is that

I never learned to shut it off as

a little kid.

And I think I had it flow all

through my life because it was never

worked out of me by anyone.

And I'm very skeptical of anybody trying

to tell me what to think.

And so I just didn't allow that.

Yeah.

So follow the four pillars,

practice daily.

There you go.

That's the magic.

In fact,

that's probably the thing that's different

about advanced students of this course is

that they do it daily.

That's the only difference.

It's got to become a way of life

that you're not setting aside time to do

it.

This is how you live.

The four pillars are your default and you

don't expect perfection.

know i'll come on here and talk about

gaining weight or i'll talk about you know

something not working or spinning out in

some way or really going down my spiral

thing there because we're not supposed to

i i think the thing about the coaching

industry and especially the spirituality

is when it becomes sort of like religion

that it's going to be your savior it's

going to fix everything everything's going

to be perfect on the other side of

it and you're going to be saved from

this horrible life that we're in

Taya is not that.

The stream has always said that's not

reality for anyone.

There's no one that's living a perfect

life because the world is designed to pull

us down into the muck so that we

can create new and rise from the muck

and expanded version of ourselves.

That's why physical exists.

Exactly.

That's why your soul comes down.

If you raise the muck,

then life changes exponentially because,

again, you're not afraid to fail.

You're not afraid to spin out.

You're not afraid to walk away from the

marriage and someone working or whatever.

anything you're just not afraid anymore

you know we are so controlled by fear

in our society people just are so reactive

due to fear and i i see these

things on social media that are so

triggering by design i see people reacting

in fear and the judgment that comes along

with fear when people are looking at

someone or something or some system and

saying that shouldn't be that way well

there's fear at the root of all that.

And,

and they're judging something as shouldn't

exist and all things are of source.

So you're separating from source

consciousness saying that something

shouldn't exist or shouldn't have been.

And when you stop doing that,

then you're automatically practicing Taya

because that's really the, the,

the third book,

the first book was the stream and,

which is still available.

And that is my story of how I

came to channel and the stream's core

message.

The second book came five years later,

at least five years later.

And that's Taya, the Taya practice,

which is what we developed as a program

In the in boot camp,

we developed it in real time in boot

camp.

It was sort of the incubator for the

program.

And then we wrote a book thinking it

would kill it.

It didn't kill it.

It made it stronger until I'm now killing

or I now killed it.

And then the third book is sort of

the result of all that,

which is the stories of all the people

that came through.

And I will publish it at some point.

I'm sure I'm just not rushing to do

it right now.

But it's called it was always this and

it's about the appreciation.

And omni-appreciation is the thing.

Taya is the practice.

The end result of Taya is appreciation of

all things.

Yeah.

Which is a beautiful way to be.

Including appreciation of the challenges.

Like something you mentioned before about,

you know,

you arrived at the place where you had

your dream life and everything is

wonderful and it was kind of boring.

And it just struck me that's how in

a way that's why our souls come down

here.

Because up there

in in in the great beyond everything is

perfect and it's wonderful but you get

bored of that pretty quickly and so you

want to come down for the contrast for

the experience you know the more there's

no growth there's no growth in perfection

when you're existing in utopian perfection

there's nothing to challenge you.

And I've achieved a couple of times in

my life where things got really,

really good.

And then the house burned down, you know,

or now, you know,

I'm saying that it's time to close all

this because as soon as I did,

this other thing just opened up and that's

a whole new challenge.

I would rather challenge myself

intentionally with something I want to

pursue than the house burning down again.

I tell you that, but yeah.

But still, the house burned down.

I don't regret or say that was a

bad thing.

It was a two-year journey of getting back

into our home.

And I had that whole experience.

I know what it's like.

I know what it's like to deal with

all those things now.

And if you start thinking about every

unwanted aspect of your life,

the value of it is you now know

what it's like.

You've had the experience.

We are talking to the judge and say,

oh, my trauma.

You don't understand my trauma.

You don't understand what happened to me.

You want to hear my story.

My parents were terrible.

My husband was this.

Whatever it is.

Well, you're not seeing the value in it,

in the experience itself.

I don't care what it is.

We've had it all.

One of my first students was in an

abusive relationship.

So how do you appreciate your abuser?

How do you appreciate the person that

killed your son?

How do you appreciate terminal cancer?

How do you appreciate parents that said

and did awful things to you as a

child?

How do you appreciate siblings that are

treating you horribly and cutting you out

of the parents' estate and manipulating

things?

All those things I've worked with.

And they never loosened up and changed

until the person authentically appreciated

every aspect of it.

That was the key every time.

Every time.

So when people would show up on my

call and say they wanted to solve

something, I would dig right into it.

Are you ready to appreciate that thing

that you're telling me is so awful?

And if they weren't,

then they weren't right for the program

and they didn't get enrolled.

But most of the people,

by the time I got there,

they knew what the deal was.

They knew what was going to be asked

of them and they were ready just to

figure out how in the world to do

it.

And that's the work, right?

That's the work is getting yourself there

because it's a vibrational journey to get

yourself there.

Yeah,

because you're investing so much of your

energy into the should not be and it's

this awful thing and it becomes part of

your identity.

And then you have to, you know,

you have to unwire your brain to free

up that energy.

I'm so very entertained how our society

reacts to things and how people

continually double down on the judgment of

something, expecting to solve it,

and it doesn't get solved.

I think in the United States,

I think Trump is a great example of

that.

Because there's certainly people that love

him no matter what.

And he's a very charming guy.

I find him very charming and entertaining.

I just think he's entertaining and

charming.

Do I think everything that he does is

charming?

I'm not necessarily going to say that,

but I find him charming.

I've detuned any feelings I had about him

long, long time ago.

And all I see is this kind of

interesting situation that's a reflection

of where the country really is.

And at the end of the day,

it doesn't matter because it's just an

experience that we're all in.

And I don't think the stakes are so

high and they don't have to be for

any of us.

But I just see people that have routinely

for what now, ten years?

just melting down on a daily basis about

this guy.

And I want to say,

have you not noticed that it doesn't make

him go away?

It doesn't solve anything.

In fact, it seems more powerful than ever.

I use that as an example because it

doesn't matter whether you're in the

United States or not.

You know who that person is and what

I'm talking about.

And I use that as an example of

love me or hate me.

You're giving me power if you're focusing

on me and you're talking about me.

And he knows that.

And he's a prime example of that.

How much hate is there for this man?

And yet, here he is.

He's still here.

He's still present.

He's still in power.

And the interesting experiment is,

if you don't pay any attention for a

week, guess what?

Nothing really changes in your life.

Yeah.

Other than you're happier.

Yeah.

I don't give a power.

And I have people that look at me

when I say,

I don't give any of that power because

they want to, you know, go down the,

let's talk about this game.

My answer, I don't give a power.

I just don't go, Oh my,

Oh my God.

You know,

you would just think that I grew horns

on my head or something and they have

to walk away from me and I don't

care.

Because if that's what you want to talk

about,

I'm going to be my authentic self and

say, this is how I feel about it.

I'm not giving that power.

I'm living my life.

And then, of course,

I have friends that will say, well,

what about this oppressed group and this

person and that person?

What about them?

I have a podcast that they can listen

to and they can shift any of that

for themselves that they want.

but they have to make that choice.

And if they don't,

then they're having the experience they're

having.

And according to source,

their soul is thrilled with it.

The soul is not saying you have to

detune and love everything and do have the

experience you're having.

If you're having the,

I hate this politician experience and I

feel like I'm being oppressed and have the

experience because that's expanding your

consciousness one way or the other.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There you go.

There you go.

Mm-hmm.

all right,

I said I wasn't going to teach anymore

and I wasn't going to do it.

I just flowed right into it.

But the beliefs aren't going to change and

the practice doesn't go away.

I still am me.

I'm just picking up and going in a

different direction and shutting all this

down.

It's the same.

The philosophy has not changed and it

never will.

The streams philosophy is set in stone.

We know what to do.

The four pillars guide you there and it's

there for anybody who wants it.

And there's no mandate that anybody has to

do it.

And there's no mandate from them that I

have to continue sharing it at all,

at all.

Go have your experience.

You know, if you've stumbled across this,

if you've stumbled across this and it's

twenty thirty,

go back and listen to the podcast.

And now you have the knowledge to get

through the next decade.

Yeah,

go backward or go to the very beginning

of this all the way through.

People do that sometimes.

It's a very interesting journey because I

very much like David.

What's that?

I preferred your earlier albums.

Yes.

Like Madonna,

the earlier stuff was the best.

The early stuff is always the best because

it's the most raw and it's the most

desperate.

Yeah.

Later on,

they just want to do stuff that doesn't.

They're doing it because it really is art

at that point,

and it's not yet an industry.

And they get into an industry,

and then the vibe just changes.

And they're terrified.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah,

they have to try to top what they

did before,

and that's exactly what takes the magic

out of it.

Mm-hmm.

which is why they all peak in their

twenties.

Although Susan Boyle is coming out with a

new, do you know who Susan Boyle is?

Yeah.

I love her voice and and her I

I have some of her music and she

started what in her fifties or late

forties or fifties or something and then

she kind of went away.

Wasn't she America's got UK's got talent

or something?

She was a UK one of those contest

shows and um she came out and she

you know didn't look like a pop star

and Simon Cowell doing his normal you know

Simon Cowell thing.

I'm sure there's some staging to that that

she was already prepped and auditioned to

go you know have that shocking moment.

But, uh, you know,

bullshit makes the world go around.

Right.

But, you know,

it was incredible when you see this woman

and you think it's going to be something

really awful.

And then it's just, just melody comes out.

That's like, Oh my God,

this is next level vocal here.

It's so beautiful.

Yeah.

So I'm excited that she's, you know,

she's still, um, you know, she's,

she's back again doing her thing.

So we'll see.

We'll see if the, uh,

the money and the fame corrupted her,

if it's going to be some good raw

talent, you never know.

Real talent.

I want to take this opportunity to just,

you know, I love you so much.

You're just like a brother to me.

And we're still going to be in

communication.

We're just not going to be podcasting

together.

And you have been just such a valuable

asset to this podcast.

You have your own following.

You could go do your own podcast right

now if you want to.

And, you know, people love you.

People absolutely love you.

And we're not the same.

You know,

we have a different vibe about us.

I think people really do appreciate that.

And I just want to express how grateful

I am to you for everything you've

contributed all these years to all of

this.

Thank you.

Thank you, man.

I've gotten so much more.

I've gotten so much more back.

So it's been a joy.

And, you know, we've all said it before,

but thank you, man.

Thank you for deciding to do this for

the last, you know, nine, ten years.

Thank you for not turning off the access

you had in your head.

And thank you for sticking through it.

There were some difficult times, you know.

It's hard to do this work.

And it's hard to build a business through

it.

You know, thank you.

I've gotten so much out of this.

And, yeah,

we'll be friends for a long time.

I'm coming over to see you soon.

And, yeah,

it's been an amazing experience.

And I want to take this opportunity to

thank all of you that have listened all

these years, or even if you're new,

we've always had a nice audience.

We've always had people that just stick

around or go and come back.

And I do appreciate you.

I know there's a lot of you out

there that I've never met or heard from.

And it was always fun when I was

enrolling people in the programs,

people would just show up that I've never

met and they know everything about me and

I get to know them.

And it was really fun.

I really love those Zoom meetings that I

would do to enroll people.

Uh,

back when I was doing that myself and

until things got bigger,

running out of people doing it.

It was really a fun ride.

I really did enjoy it.

I don't regret a minute of it.

I love the feeling that we're going out

like this and I especially want to thank

all the people that invested in the

programs because I wouldn't have been able

to do this if I didn't have people

coming through investing a lot of money

and taking the courses and the programs

because that was the majority of the

revenue coming through that allowed me to

do sub stacks and podcasts and

stream and channel and do all these things

because if I if I didn't have a

mechanism behind it and

I probably would have been working in some

job somewhere and not having the time to

do this this way.

Or at least in my own limitations of

business,

the idea is that that's how it all

played out.

So the business arm of it,

that was sort of the, okay,

this is my path.

And the stream even said that when the

coaching thing came up.

You want to do this,

but you need to make a living.

This is a path for you to do

it.

And I'm very grateful for that path

because not only did it sustain me

financially,

It also introduced me to so many people

that I got to know very well because

standing on a stage and channeling is very

different than spending weeks working with

someone in a very intimate setting,

you know, in a coaching program.

So I have all these people that I

know and have met and some I've lost

touch with, some I'm still in touch with.

Some of you are listening and haven't

talked to me in a long time.

I do still love hearing from you.

So, you know, send me a email.

Yeah, your emails will still be open.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The emails.

We're not shutting down any of the

technology for at least the rest of this

year because Mastermind is still going.

So, yeah.

So the website is still up because

Mastermind is there if somebody wants to

join Mastermind.

And the channeling will wind down now to

just the people in Mastermind and that's

it.

And then as we record this,

the final transmission.

The bi-weekly Saturdays that we do,

the final one is June six,

which is this coming Saturday.

And then I'm not doing those anymore.

So that will be it as far as

just channeling publicly goes.

But again,

endless gratitude to all of you that have

been part of this journey.

It's bittersweet,

but I feel really good that now is

the time to close this chapter.

Namaste.

Namaste.

Thank you.